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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. He is traveling to the drama. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: hell no, not, Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan has I come

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Speaker 1: to you from a virtual room. Phillisum Heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, you know had the I had the good

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Speaker 1: fortune to spend the Easter Sunday and a part of

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Speaker 1: it with Lukisha and her mother uh Nana as we

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Speaker 1: call her and Link. That was very nice. It was

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Speaker 1: great to see you know, you know, it's East. It

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Speaker 1: was Easter weekend. We hope everybody that celebrates had a

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Speaker 1: good one. And I actually, for the first time, I

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Speaker 1: was trying to explain the basics of what Easter is

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Speaker 1: to the boys, beyond um the Easter bunny, which is

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Speaker 1: the only thing that matters in their world, and this

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Speaker 1: idea of Jesus and God was the Father and Jesus died,

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Speaker 1: and the boys naturally asked, well, if God is Jesus Father,

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Speaker 1: why was he why why did he die? And then

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Speaker 1: that gets me thinking about West and how how did

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Speaker 1: that happen? Such a good person go And then you

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Speaker 1: get to see Link on Sunday and see him happy

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Speaker 1: and holding Easter eggs and my boys showing Link had

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Speaker 1: to find eggs and oh it was nice boys, I have.

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Speaker 1: I saw some photos of Link dressed up in the

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Speaker 1: little Bunny costume, and I am, I'm it's not an

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Speaker 1: overstatement to say is one of the most um majestically

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Speaker 1: cute babies I've ever witnessed. I really, it's also just

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Speaker 1: having spent a little time with him, his eyes when

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Speaker 1: he looks at you. But that's cool. Um, you dove

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Speaker 1: into the theology side of things. I think you did

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Speaker 1: a little bit of job with your summary there. You

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Speaker 1: to get wrap your head around that when you're like

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Speaker 1: five years that's for the theology podcast Shark. And if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a deep out dive on the Son

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Speaker 1: of God, that's something that we need to unpack in

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Speaker 1: full over several hours. I would guess. Yeah, Link um

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Speaker 1: looks more like Chris I think every day. Um, you

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Speaker 1: us a picture of Chris dressed up as a Maleman.

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Speaker 1: just for fun. Why not dress up as a male

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Speaker 1: could just you can just see you can see link,

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Speaker 1: you can see links facing West, and um that that

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Speaker 1: same Easter question came up in my house to Dan,

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Speaker 1: which is even more complicated because you know, my kids

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Speaker 1: was like, you know you learned, you learned there? Like

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Speaker 1: what that was God in the roach? And I said Jesus,

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Speaker 1: And She's like, he's the one with the beard, right.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's that's him. Um, but it

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Speaker 1: he came back. Well where was he? Okay, well, I

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Speaker 1: like the idea of ever the contrarian, like Jesus, he's

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Speaker 1: the one with the beard. And Greg's like, well, we

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Speaker 1: don't really know of youesthetically, right, it was great and

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Speaker 1: and then you oh again this is not the theology podcast,

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Speaker 1: But you don't know where West is right now. But

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Speaker 1: the one thing we do know is that Link was

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. Big show coming up. I actually,

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Speaker 1: have a little jet segment, a formal jet segment. All

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Speaker 1: segments sometimes become jet segments on the show. I apologize

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Speaker 1: for that, but this one is gonna be a Jets

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Speaker 1: related one. With the number two overall pick there in

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Speaker 1: And where Sam Donald gonna go? Rich Zamini, one of

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Speaker 1: will be on the show a little bit later, but

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Speaker 1: before that, what's this news? Um, April fools? Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: the gap it's here to stay for a little while.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. So April Fool, everybody

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Speaker 1: mark one word disgrace. Well, you know something that you've

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Speaker 1: um in agreement with you that this prank began before

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Speaker 1: April Fools, taking us all to a totally different world,

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Speaker 1: I didn't find it that hilarious. Um. You know, these

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Speaker 1: the other hand, most of people annoyed at April fool

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Speaker 1: half the responses to this tweet was April fool. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it true? As you're you were hurt a little bit,

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Speaker 1: it was incredibly successful, you know much twenty nine or

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people were responding saying April Fools.

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Speaker 1: an ad and it's a paid ad and all this stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: but more power to straight hand. He got paid a

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Speaker 1: Fool because it was still a paid ad. Are we

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Speaker 1: talking about you? Are you still talking about the paid

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Speaker 1: aspect that I'm saying that, But I'm just saying that's

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Speaker 1: it's no different. Little dirty in June is all the

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Speaker 1: I declare vengeance on Michael straight like you know, I

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Speaker 1: to I declare what that means, Nebulos. I mean he

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Speaker 1: deserves some bad luck. He's been on a winning streak

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Speaker 1: like no other. Remember when it was him versus Tiki, Yes,

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Speaker 1: has been declared upon Michael Strahan in the biggest of

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Speaker 1: all spots, UH, Deshaun Watson. It is now really when

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Speaker 1: an investigation on Deshaun Watson. UH Jane Doe has officially

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Speaker 1: news went down. So check out this interview with Rich

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Speaker 1: Tomini where we talk about it actually sets it up nicely,

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Speaker 1: boys with some context of what the decision was in

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Speaker 1: front of the Jets. And on the back end of

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Speaker 1: this conversation, we'll dig in on the trade details of

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald going to the Panthers and now a very

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Speaker 1: special guest. One of my absolute favorites as as a

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Speaker 1: Jets fan. He is the source uh for me for

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Speaker 1: Jets reporting and just knowing what's going on with the team,

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Speaker 1: and now he joins the Around the NFL podcast maybe

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Speaker 1: for the first time ever, I'm not sure. Rich Tomini,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Yes, I'm a rookie, so the

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Speaker 1: first time ever. Thanks for having me, guys, I have

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Speaker 1: I have to say I've met rich multiple times. He's

439
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Speaker 1: helped me out with some stuff I've written in the past,

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Speaker 1: and I always kissed the ring when I see Richard

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Speaker 1: the combine. Uh. He's a New York guy. I think

442
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Speaker 1: you're a Hall of Famer and your your local high school?

443
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Speaker 1: Is that so as well? That's a big one. Yeah,

444
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: crazy right, But your Jets stuff, Dan, I know I

445
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: could feel the passion in the know the frustration comes

446
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: pouring out in some of your writing. I know, I know,

447
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: I try not to, but market Market said it's hard

448
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: to hold it all inside, and and and rich like.

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Speaker 1: This is a fascinating, fascinating time in Jets history, of course,

450
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: and it also feels it's the whiff of um you're

451
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Speaker 1: thinking of three years ago, because it was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be Sam was Sam Donald, supposed to be the reboot

453
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Speaker 1: of this team, and everything was supposed to be going

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Speaker 1: upward from there. Does feel like we lost three years

455
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Speaker 1: and and now the Jets are trying to figure it

456
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: out again, and the and the forty nineers make that

457
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Speaker 1: blockbuster trade ten days ago to get to number three.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people connecting dots. Well, if the Jets

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Speaker 1: aren't involved with that trade, they must be locked and

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Speaker 1: loaded on, Zack Wilson. Is that how you see it

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Speaker 1: as we approach draft day? You know? It's funny lest

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Speaker 1: For a few days ago on Friday, I was having

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Speaker 1: a conversation with a scout who loves in the western

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Speaker 1: part of the country, and I usually go to him

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Speaker 1: with quarterback questions because he's that's his area of expertise.

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Speaker 1: And I was just talking to the scout the other day.

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Speaker 1: He goes, were are you asking me the same questions?

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Speaker 1: Three years of Donald and Rosen and Josh Allen were

469
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Speaker 1: coming out, and I said, you're absolutely right, deja vu

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Speaker 1: all over again. Uh yeah, I mean here we are again.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I certainly think the Jets will be replacing

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald with the draft pick. And I do believe

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Speaker 1: everything I've heard is that Zack Wilson will be that

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Speaker 1: pick at number two. Mm hm do you? Um? I

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Speaker 1: think when you're looking at Wilson or what you've heard

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Speaker 1: about Wilson as a prospect sometimes that he is a

477
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Speaker 1: little reminiscent of Sam Donald too as a prospect, where

478
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Speaker 1: like maybe the weaknesses, you know, not as many snaps

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Speaker 1: as a call as a college quarterback, um can miss

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Speaker 1: some throws like the crazy arm, the crazy athleticism. Like

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Speaker 1: when I when I've heard people talk about him and

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Speaker 1: I'm not like a draft nick. He kind of reminds

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Speaker 1: me of Donald coming out as a prospect, which, if

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Speaker 1: only just because it's the Jets would maybe like freak

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Speaker 1: me out slightly. They are really similar. In fact, of

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Speaker 1: the throws that Zach made in his pro day that

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Speaker 1: that rolling left fade away throwing to the right hash

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Speaker 1: which was an incredible throw, was was similar to some

489
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Speaker 1: of Donald's throws that he's made in his career, and

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Speaker 1: they're saying there's the same in that you know there there.

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Speaker 1: They can make the off platform throws, they can use

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Speaker 1: different arm angles. That's what everyone was talking about with

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Speaker 1: Sam when he came out, and uh, you know there

494
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Speaker 1: are some similarities, you know. It's it's an intriguing decision

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Speaker 1: in all my years of covering the Jets, and and

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Speaker 1: that's many as Dan would attest to, I think this

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Speaker 1: is the most polarizing decision that they've had to make,

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Speaker 1: just in terms of I think the fan base is

499
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Speaker 1: completely split. You know, you have half let's keep Sam

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Speaker 1: and build around him, and the other half is ready

501
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Speaker 1: to move on and draft someone else. So as a journalist,

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Speaker 1: it makes for great copy and talking points, you know,

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Speaker 1: for a few few months, I guess. But when I

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Speaker 1: look at the Jets, I mean in Sam Donald is

505
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Speaker 1: they're a tougher quarterback. To really evaluate Um the wreckage

506
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Speaker 1: that he's been through the past couple of years, so

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Speaker 1: much of it feels like I don't really put that

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Speaker 1: on Sam Donald. And if you're the Jets Um and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the similarities between him and Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Is it more just in a matter of we have

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Speaker 1: to move on and refresh the quarterback position, but more

512
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Speaker 1: than worse certain that Sam Donald We've seen the best stuff.

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Speaker 1: How can they really like ascertain who Sam Donald is

514
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Speaker 1: at this point as a player in terms of being

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Speaker 1: put in the right system, in the right position, especially

516
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Speaker 1: with like the new offensive group they've got coming in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think you get a much better version

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Speaker 1: of Sam Donald. You can sell that draft pick for

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Speaker 1: so much. I just won't if there's any thought to that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe keeping him and pulling a stunner. Yeah, personally, that's

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Speaker 1: I've been kind of vocal about that. I know I've

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Speaker 1: been annoying some Jet fans. That's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: I would keep Sam and and and bet on him

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Speaker 1: in this new offense, very quarterback friendly offense. We've seen

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Speaker 1: what Shanahan could do with it. Now they have MICHAELA.

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Speaker 1: Fleur as the O. C uh, it'll be better coaching.

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Speaker 1: I feel he wasn't coached well the last two years.

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Speaker 1: He regressed under Adam Gaze. You saw at the end

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Speaker 1: of Sam's rookie year when he was in a similar

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Speaker 1: type system under Jeremy Bates. You know, he showed promise

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Speaker 1: at the end of that year. He went toe to

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Speaker 1: toe in a couple of games with Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson at the end of the year, and there

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Speaker 1: was reason to hope. But since then he's it's been

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Speaker 1: a decline. And I'm not making excuses for the guy.

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Speaker 1: He has not been a good quarterback over the last

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Speaker 1: three years. In fact, he is the lowest rated passer

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Speaker 1: over the last three years combined in the league. I

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Speaker 1: think it's thirty nine that a thirty nine quarter qualifying passers.

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Speaker 1: But you coaching supporting cast has been been shaky at best.

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Speaker 1: He's had no running game, and so it's really difficult

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Speaker 1: to do an evaluation. But I think the point you

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Speaker 1: bring up is excellent. It's the financial part that's a

544
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: really big part of this decision, which is why I

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Speaker 1: think the Jets will lean towards starting fresh with the

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback contract. Well, what about rich with the kind

547
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Speaker 1: of a half measure here, because and you've written about this,

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00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: the Jets had a window earlier in this offseason where

549
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Speaker 1: maybe they could have been aggressive in moving Donald and

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Speaker 1: try to get a second third round pick whatever, and

551
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: then a lot of these starting jobs filled up, so

552
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: his trade market, you would think, is depressed at this point.

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00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it just make more sense at this point if

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Speaker 1: you really you love Zach Wilson, he's your guy that

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Speaker 1: you decline Donald's fifth year option, you keep him in

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Speaker 1: the building and then maybe have them, you know, actually

557
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: being a competition this this summer. And if Donald is

558
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: clicking in this offense and all of a sudden he

559
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: realizes potential, you have a great problem at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. And if he can't play and he

561
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Speaker 1: struggles and and Wilson takes over very quickly. Yes, Donald

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Speaker 1: leaves as a free agent, and that's and you don't

563
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Speaker 1: get that draft asset. But to me, that's a willing

564
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: that's a good gamble to take then and then you

565
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Speaker 1: finally get a chance to get that one last evaluation

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Speaker 1: of Donald in there, and you still get the guy

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Speaker 1: that you see is the future potential. Well, I do

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Speaker 1: know if there are some people in the building who

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Speaker 1: are in the Donald camp, and I think this coaching half,

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Speaker 1: I've said this before. I think Michael Floor and Robert

571
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Speaker 1: Salo really thinks they can make it work with Sam

572
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: Uh So you could get the best of both worlds

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Speaker 1: the way you described it. And in fact, I talked

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Speaker 1: to Josh McCown the other day and he is he

575
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: is very close with Sam. They're talking and texting all

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Speaker 1: the time, and he thinks that scenario can work. Um,

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Speaker 1: I personally am not a huge fan of that scenario

578
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: because in a year Donald can walk as a free agent.

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Speaker 1: At least now if you trade him for maybe a

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Speaker 1: low two or three, you can get compensation for this year.

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00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: So that's another thing. And do you want to saddle

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Speaker 1: a rookie head coach Robert Sala with the quarterback controversy?

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Speaker 1: You guys know how we are in New York. But

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Speaker 1: if he's good rich, if Sala is the real deal,

585
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: he can handle that. And if he's not the r deal,

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00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: he can so to me that that's not a good

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00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: enough excuse to not give out a chance. I don't know,

588
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, Sam would win that job. I mean Sam

589
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: would be the starter. There's no way a rookie, in

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Speaker 1: spite of all of sam struggles, he would be heading

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Speaker 1: shoulders above a rookie coming in. And actually, from Sam

592
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Speaker 1: Donald's perspective, I think there is upside to that scenario

593
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: because he's a free agent a year from now. He

594
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Speaker 1: has to do whatever he can to improve his value,

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00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: and I think the Jets would probably afford him the

596
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: best opportunity to play. Where else is he gonna go

597
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Speaker 1: and be a week one starter, Probably nowhere else, and

598
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: so he could increase his free agent value. I would

599
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Speaker 1: just take the compensation. Now, I think it's a very

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00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: awkward situation. Then you're almost putting off the inevitable for

601
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Speaker 1: a year. You're a two and fourteen team, you have

602
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Speaker 1: the second pick in the draft. I would try to

603
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Speaker 1: get that guy in there as quickly as possible. I

604
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Speaker 1: would use Miami last year as a model for that. Now, too,

605
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: it didn't start right away they you know what, it

606
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: was like week six or seven that they eventually brought

607
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: him in and then they took him out and brought

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Speaker 1: him in a little bit. I would do something like that.

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Speaker 1: You're two and fourteen. You're not gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs this year in all likelihood, and so I think

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Speaker 1: you're prolonging the inevitable by keeping Donald around for a year.

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Speaker 1: One more question, Rich, I have to I have to ask,

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Speaker 1: I have to ask you to share this with the audience.

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00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: It's my favorite. You've been covering the team since what

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00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I believe it was, and uh, and you've been through

616
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: a lot of dysfunction as a beat reporter or covering

617
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: coaches that were in over their head, and Adam Gates

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: that era has to stack up against any of them.

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Speaker 1: But the rich co tight era for Jets fans of

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00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: a certain age is still kind of the gold standard.

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Speaker 1: With Gaye right there, can you please share the Keyshawn

622
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: Johnson hurts his knee in his first rookie camp and

623
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Speaker 1: you trying to get the scoop on on what's going on,

624
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: and there may be being a rich code tight disappearance involved. Yeah,

625
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: it was actually not. It was the regular season. It

626
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: wasn't even real it was his rookie year, and so

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Speaker 1: Keyshawn hurts his knee in practice and they said they

628
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: were taking him for an m r R. In those days,

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Speaker 1: we had a free run of the place you know

630
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Speaker 1: now there. This was at Hofstra by the way on

631
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Speaker 1: Long Island, and then reporters could go into the parking

632
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: lot and talked to players after practice at their cars, which,

633
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: of course, when parcels came in, he put everything off limits.

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00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: So like it I mean, this is the star rookie players.

635
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Speaker 1: So I went outside the locker room, probably late afternoon,

636
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: and sat outside the locker room for Kishan to come

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Speaker 1: back from his m RI. And while I'm sitting there,

638
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: at about five o'clock in the afternoon, rich Coke tight

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00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: ambles out of the locker room and he about to

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Speaker 1: step into his Mercedes coupe is really snazzy two door Mercedes,

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00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, He goes, I'll be back in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm just going out to grab a bite

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00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: to eat. I'm like, okay, I see you later, rich Well,

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00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I said, on the same stool until about eight or

645
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: eight thirty until it was dark and Kishan came back.

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00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Rich co Tighte never came back. He was done, he

647
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: was done. He worked bankers hours as an NFL coach,

648
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: which we all know is is unheard of. He never

649
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: came back. And I could I could vouch because I

650
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: was there the whole time and back and I got

651
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: my story, even though I waited three or four hours.

652
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: And he did have a minor knee injury, and I

653
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: think he had a scope and missed three or four games.

654
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so and I was later learned that

655
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Rich co Tight and actually boom Riscius and tells a

656
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: very funny story that co Tight actually kept a car,

657
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: another secret car in the back of the building so

658
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: he could step out during the day and no one

659
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: would know he was gone. And yeah, day where he

660
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: used the front door a car and that was that

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00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: was part of the rich co Tight era. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: my team, everybody, Um, Rich, thank you for joining us

663
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: and and and I wish you the best and also

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00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: you deserve it. Beat this long to cover a champion,

665
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: So as Rich Bningo U is known to say, from

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00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: my lips to God's is And the other thing I

667
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: wish for you is that Carl Lawson or someone else

668
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: from this draft ask gets to the quarterback with the

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00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: regular regularity, so you never again have to write the lead.

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00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: The Jets haven't had a premier pass rusher since John

671
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Abraham left in two thousand. Hey like, nothing more to

672
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: cover a championship team. Alright, great, there he goes and

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00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: check out the flight deck. That's Rich to mean he's

674
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: podcast covering the Jets and all of his great work

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00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: on ESPN dot com. Thank you all right, yes, thank

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00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: you the great Rich Simini all that conversation about Sam

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00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Donald and what the Jets are gonna do. Well, they

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00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: made the decision on Monday, trading the former number three

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00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: overall pick to the Carolina Panthers and head coach Matt Rule.

680
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: The Jets get three draft picks UH in return, UH,

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00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: including a second rounder in so Sam Donald heads to

682
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Another domino falls there. Teddy Bridgewater was the

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00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: incumbent in Carolina and he's either now gonna be the

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00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: backup or be moved else are you would think maybe

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00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: we'll into that and the Jets. Now everything is cleared

686
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: the runway as it were cleared for the Jets, who

687
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: now have no quarterback in the building, but the number

688
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: two overall pick and Zach Wilson will be sitting there.

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Speaker 1: So connect all those. That's that's where this is going.

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Speaker 1: Mark your initial thoughts on the trade Sam Donald to

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. So my initial thoughts so that this

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: doesn't always happen or or perceived perceptionally seemed to happen.

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Speaker 1: But I think both teams um got value. I think

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00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: the Panthers were in hot water on the Deshaun Watson front,

695
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's who they wanted I think they were going

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00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: to do and sell the moon for that, you get Donald. Um,

697
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: they picked up his fifth year option. The Jets got picked.

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00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: We just talked to Saminy that like, look at if

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Speaker 1: people had wanted Sam Donald, if there's been some sort

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00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: of bum rush for Sam Donald, there would have been

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: more value. But that just wasn't the case. And Joe

702
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Douglas over and over has not been fleeced in deals.

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Um they have. I think twenty one draft picks over

704
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: the next two years was seven and in the in

705
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: the first two rounds, so the Jets are still in

706
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: good position. I think they cleaned up um what would

707
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: have been intentionally been a little bit messy to have

708
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Donald and Zach Wilson there. I know some people feel differently,

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: But for the Panthers, I love the idea of offensive

710
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: coordinator Joe Brady Um showing that he can do what

711
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Adam Gates and others have not been able to do.

712
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: And it's a good start for a fresh start for

713
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Sam Donald on an offense that is much better and

714
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: much better place than the Jets had been the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. And with that number eight pick, you

716
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: can go offensive line, you can do what you need

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: to fortify the offense. They went all defense last year,

718
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: So I think it's a you know, it's a it's

719
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: maybe a two year window to find out what you

720
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: have in this guy, and if it works, it's a

721
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: great story for Sam Donald, right, And it could be

722
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: a one year window. Even picking up the option, it's

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00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: only guaranteed for injury only. I'm always surprised teams don't

724
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: pick up those options because it's not that big of

725
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: a risk. You're just you're just hoping it doesn't have

726
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: a major injury. I love it if I'm you know,

727
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah or the people that were banging the drums

728
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: saying Sam Donald's one of the best quarterback prospects they've

729
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: ever seen, um which so far hasn't looked good, and

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00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: he is now going to I think, what's a pretty

731
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly system. You know, we were, you know, I

732
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: I was much higher on Teddy in general than you

733
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: guys last year. But you still could look at the numbers,

734
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: like if the floor here is Teddy Bridgewater thrown for

735
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: four thousand yards and and going up and down the

736
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: field and and moving the ball like you would think

737
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: Sam Donald could do that. If if, as Danny would say,

738
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: he can play the guitar. I don't necessarily think they'll

739
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: just hand hand him, uh the starting job just because

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00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: Teddy's do so much guaranteed money that it doesn't make

741
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: sense to me for them to dump Teddy unless they

742
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: have a somewhere to dump them, like someone wants them

743
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: or an upgrade, which would have been Deshaun Watson. That

744
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: doesn't look like it's happening now. So I kind of

745
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: expect that both Donald and Teddy will have a chance

746
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: here to play. But you would assume Donald is the favorite. Yeah,

747
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I would say Donald's the heavy favorite, but we will

748
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. It gives them options and

749
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: it is the and we talked about at the top

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00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: top of the show. What's that that I was just

751
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: because say, But to be fair, Teddy's played at a

752
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: higher level and we've seen it than Sam Donald ever has,

753
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: including including in his first couple of seasons. I'm just

754
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: saying we do, Greg, But I mean everything the Carolina

755
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: Panthers have said and done this offseason told us they're

756
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: not He was with Teddy Bridgewater, he was in the building,

757
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: but they gave up a second round pick, not not

758
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: this year's pick though, that's what got it done when

759
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: they gave up a second round pick, but it's next

760
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: year's second you know that that's putting a certain value.

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00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's where Jalen Hurts gets drafted or different

762
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: guys get drafted. Those are not guys you necessarily think

763
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: are going to be your franchise quarterback. That's all the

764
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: reason I think it's clearly Donald and Caroline is because

765
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Matt Rule has Teddy Bridgewater in the building for a

766
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: year running his offense with Brady, and clearly, I mean

767
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: they made it very clear as we're we've been talking

768
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: about they weren't thrilled with the results. So I guess

769
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: they could all back on Teddy if Donald disappoints, but

770
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: I would think maybe they're looking for a fresh start,

771
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: just like the Jets. And and for me it is

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00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I did have a lot invested in Sam Donald. All

773
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: Jets fans did, because he was the highest draft pick

774
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: by the Jets since Joe Namath, and everything pointed to

775
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: him being the real deal. But you know, as has

776
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: been talked about ad nauseum, it was you know, the

777
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: circumstances that that he he was forced into as a

778
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: Jet were unholy. It was really between the coaching and

779
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: the personnel and issues in the front office. It felt

780
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: like he never had a chance. So do I have

781
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: a Do I have a fear a deep down that

782
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: he still can be a really good player and maybe

783
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: even better than Zach Wilson in a more healthy setup. Yeah,

784
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, That's why I said to Rich,

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00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: I said, what what's the harm in keeping him in

786
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: the building and seeing if he actually can realize that potential.

787
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I do trust the process,

788
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: and I do think that, um, if they really do

789
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: love Zack Wilson, uh, and you restart that rookie contract clock.

790
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I heard a lot of people in

791
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: my mentions on this podcast saying you're crazy about the

792
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Jets even getting a second rounder for Sam Donald. There

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00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: are people that believe this guy can play. So the

794
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Jets now can get that's a premium draft pick down

795
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: the line, and maybe you turn that into something and

796
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: now you just hope, you hope that Zack Wilson is

797
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: a big time player. There is the nuclear um bomb

798
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: scenario where Wilson can't play and Donald becomes a star

799
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: in Carolina what what I want for Sam Donald is

800
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: for Sam Donald. And it's not gonna be happening, Greg,

801
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and you still love Cam Newton as your quarterback. What

802
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: what I think is going to happen here is he

803
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: becomes a rich Man Zandy Dalton. Is is Sam Donald ceiling?

804
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: And I hope he gets there, And I just hope

805
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: the Jets pick a quarterback doesn't bomb out like the

806
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: rest of him. It is as Rich said, it's it's

807
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: a fascinating decision. And and there were fans of Donald

808
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: in the building for the Jets that wanted to keep

809
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: them there. They made this decision. And it's a big

810
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: roll of the dice. Either way, it would have been

811
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: a big roll of the dice. I mean, the Jets

812
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: are the first team in the modern era to pick

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00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: two to pick ostensibly a quarterback in the course of

814
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: three years in the top three. Um, to pick two

815
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: of them, I could have I could have made you know,

816
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: it's the first thing I didn't the Browns do that

817
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: like four times and like they didn't, but it wasn't

818
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: top three. That was the difference, you know, right, It's um,

819
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: it's worth the shot for the Panthers. I haven't been

820
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: high on Donald. So I'm of two minds. Like when

821
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: everyone defends Donald and puts the context of what he did,

822
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: I think of you know, the Facebook, the social network.

823
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: When Zuckerberg says to the you know, the the Winklevoss twins, like,

824
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: if you'd invented Facebook, you didn't, you'd have invented Facebook.

825
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: And it's like if Sam Donald was the Shawn Watson

826
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: or Patrick Boams, he would be one of those guys

827
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: like you would overcome your surroundings. Um, but does he

828
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: have a higher upside than when he saw of course?

829
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: And so I kind of think it makes sense for

830
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: the Panther because I'm always banging the drum that when

831
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback you should just keep taking swings,

832
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: like stop being so precious about it, Like take a

833
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: million swings. You don't know which is gonna stick. You

834
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: only had to give up next year's you know, second

835
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: round pick and in a fourth and a six, So

836
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a crazy uh high pick to

837
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: give up and you get to evaluate him for a

838
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: year or two unless these things and that's a nice

839
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: second round pick. It's there's there's there's a bit of

840
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: a gamble here and and it tells you how what

841
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: a the Deshaun Watson situation, how that's changed so much,

842
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: and how it's led to the dominoes falling in a

843
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: different way, because really it feels like Watson was uh,

844
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: there was a tractor being pointing towards Charlotte with him

845
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: and they had to scramble and adjust. You have to

846
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: call the Panthers in terms of the overall offseason chase

847
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. I put him in the loser's bracket

848
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: because what they were shooting four was so high and

849
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: they're not sitting down at in the draft. They have

850
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: the eighth pick, but there's just too many other teams

851
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: with the Niners trade that had crept ahead of them,

852
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: and they're in a bit of a fix. So yeah,

853
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: this is this is a potentially good um scenario for them,

854
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: but it's no home run. It's like we're waiting to

855
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: see in year four if Sam Donald is actually as

856
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: good as everyone's been saying he is. Isn't it like

857
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: Teddy all over again? A different circumstances, But they that's

858
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: what it was last year for the Panthers. We know

859
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridge order has never really proven that he was

860
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: a real franchise quarterback, but we believe in his potential.

861
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Now it's Donald's turn to be

862
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: in that role under that rule. It is disappointed. I

863
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: think you're right the what that I hadn't thought about

864
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: the Watson news. Maybe that informed the forty Niners trade,

865
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't. But either way, the combination of the

866
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: Watson um news that's been we've talked about and the

867
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: trade had to leave the Panthers thinking they're not getting

868
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: who they want at eight or it's going to be

869
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: tough to trade up, like because because I was thinking

870
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: they still were a candidate to trade up to four

871
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: or five, they didn't. It wouldn't have had to go

872
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: too far. But now now that they know it's going

873
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: one to three at quarterback, Jets are taking Wilson, forty

874
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: Niners will take who they want that It's like they

875
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: gotta have another option because they they clearly Teddy was

876
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: not enough for them. It's too bad, that's too bad.

877
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: It's it's it's too bad with Donald two. I really,

878
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: oh man, I really wanted that to work, and but

879
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: it is exciting at the same time when you watch

880
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: this Zach Wilson foot just now it's started to buy

881
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: into another quarterback, by into another jersey for my son's.

882
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: It's it goes on and on and on the search

883
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: for the true successor to Joe Namath. All right, before

884
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: we go, you know, we're in the off season here

885
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of it is the Greg you pointed out on

886
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: TEXTA this morning. It's definitely a bit of a dead

887
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: area when you get out of the free agency on

888
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: and before the draft really hits fever pitch. That's where

889
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: we are right now, right, no pro days, no more signings,

890
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: the phantom owners meetings or the talk about that was

891
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: in theory last week that was the seven. Yeah, it's

892
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: as quiet as there is three weeks in a row

893
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: on the NFL schedule except for July. I would say

894
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: that's the only time that's quieter. Um And Mark, did

895
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: you hear about this talk that they're going to potentially

896
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't think this has written down yet, uh, for

897
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: any of the teams that aren't involved with the Hall

898
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: of Fame game. Um Or I think the Thursday night opener,

899
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna launch the same day and it might be

900
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: a blowout like uh training camp open spectacular kind Yeah,

901
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: excited about that will be that we're gonna put We're

902
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna put Mark out by the RAMS facility as it

903
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: opens at six am live on the scene. I find

904
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: the RAMS a little spice here at this point. Um

905
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: then in then in years past. But Dan is absolutely

906
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: um on point with that. It's going to be treated

907
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: like you know, uh, we've we've landed on Mars and

908
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: started a new colony, will be treated with that level

909
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: of groundbreaking verve got to own July. Um, but I

910
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: wanted to see since since it's been a little quieter,

911
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: what are you guys into? And Ricky jump on right now?

912
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: What's the pop culture uh that that you're into? I'll

913
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: start I I watched a movie on Netflix and I

914
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: needed a laugh. We all need a laugh, um, even

915
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: as things in the COVID world get better. But it's

916
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, been a tough twelve months on a lot

917
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: of levels. Bad trip, Eric Andre, that movie absolutely destroyed me.

918
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Slave me and full disclosure, I've met him a couple

919
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: of times. He was in Bob, my friend Bob and

920
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Jason's movie a few years back. He's a very nice

921
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: guy and I've always loved the Eric Andre show on

922
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: adult swim um, it's absurdest brilliance. And he took like

923
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: the elements of what makes that show uh funny and

924
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: gray and then somehow tied it to a narrative structure

925
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: on so, I mean, it's not Citizen Kane, but like

926
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: there's an actual movie connected to his uh, the Eric

927
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: Andre Greatness for people that are fans of him. And

928
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: then there are scenes in that Ricky and I know

929
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: it sounds like you watch it that had me laughing

930
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: at my our solve and Tiffany hash I um, I

931
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: do uh. Another podcast, as you guys know, that Jessell

932
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: Nick and Rosenthal Vanity Project, and that was Anthony. We

933
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: do recommendation station every week and that was his recommendation

934
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: last week. So this is back to back the podcast

935
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: I've been on and he gave it a hard recommend

936
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: and he's a he's a tough judge for sure. On

937
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: the comedy. By the way, we have a live show

938
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night. Listeners should check out for tickets on that.

939
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: How about that while we're here comfortable pitch, he's plugging himself.

940
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: Just just own it. It's cool. Where is it? Where

941
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: is it? I mean, no, no, it's not in person.

942
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: It's just like a zoom where you can you can

943
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: pay to watch it. It's like a assume. Ricky would be,

944
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's a big she's a huge part of it,

945
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: and making them pay for it. We're making them pay

946
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: for it as just you know, a special, little different show.

947
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: You know you can talk with us afterwards. It's good.

948
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: You think Craig would ever do that for free? Um?

949
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: How much does it cost? How much does it cost

950
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: for people to watch on a video screen? This will

951
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: be you'll appreciate this. Fifteen dollars for the normal show,

952
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: which will be longer than normal. Um, but you can

953
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: for seventy five. You can get v I P tickets

954
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: and stay like an extra hour and ask questions and stuff.

955
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: How many people have snatch stuff? A surprising amount of

956
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: people have bought it. I too had nothing. I had

957
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with us setting all this off. I

958
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: was like, what, really are you giving Ricky cut of

959
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: the proceeds? Of course, of course I got your back, Ricky.

960
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: Don't let them push you. I'm gonna wreck a man.

961
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna jump in and do um the latest

962
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: season of Last Chance You just because I feel like

963
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: our listeners, maybe there's some cross over here. They did

964
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: basketball this year and it was East Della. I know

965
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: I've given a lot of last Chance you love on

966
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: this show. I know because I do think it's one

967
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: of the better like documentary documentary shows, like showing a

968
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: certain slice of life right now out there, like it's

969
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: really well done. Um And this time it was a

970
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: basketball team. It was East l A. So there's a

971
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: little bit of an l A vibe having this awesome

972
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: season and somewhat of a spoiler alert, you know, the

973
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: it's last season, so the world obviously with covid um

974
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: infringes by the end. But man, the characters and just

975
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: how they do it is really compelling to me. Like,

976
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: to me, it's a good if you love sports, like

977
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: it's partly why I I it makes me like love

978
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: sports more because it's the people that are really doing

979
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: it for the love of the of the game, and

980
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: you see what they go through to try to get

981
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: to their dreams. I'm behind on that show. I haven't

982
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: watched it, so, like where would be a good jump

983
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: in season? I think the bat this one is the

984
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: first time it's a basketball season. It's a totally different

985
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: vibe because of that. But I think this would be

986
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: a good one to jump in. All right, good to

987
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: know I'm writing it down, Mark, Um, So I know

988
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to pop culture suggests. It needs to be

989
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: something that has been created recently. So I will give you,

990
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: um one thing in that category. You know when you're

991
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: you're married. It's season tweet last night that animals are

992
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: not from Earth? Like, are you okay? That's just sort

993
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 1: of thinking that there's there's a possibility that that's true.

994
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: Another big social weekend, social media weekend for Mark, Mark,

995
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: I really unpack that. I hadn't seen that. What's the

996
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: how do you? How is that possible? First of all,

997
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that everything that's on Earth, our planet,

998
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: originated on Earth. Um, this isn't a strong theory based

999
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: on I've had some biologists coming at me saying, that's

1000
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: an absurd thing that you wrote, and I agree that

1001
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: it probably sounds absurd, but it's a little flatter third

1002
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: in its own way. No, I don't believe in that theory.

1003
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: I just think that there are various life beings that

1004
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: maybe came from somewhere or something else, and if it

1005
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: were all animals, I'd be like, hmm, that kind of

1006
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. It also makes no sense, so

1007
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, the animal my pop culture reference. The animals

1008
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: are underrated though, I mean they are amazing. We've just

1009
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: been watching live cams of animals. There's another recommendation. Uh,

1010
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: there's a good critter cam out there, and I gotta say, like,

1011
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: it's it's better than TV, Like we just have it

1012
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: on in the background. It's pretty fascinating. So if they're

1013
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: coming from other planets, but I'm into it. We have

1014
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: a ring camera or whatever in our backyard and Emily

1015
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: has its set up to get don't worry Mark, We're

1016
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: gett into your pop culture. It has its set up

1017
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: for like notifications whenever there's movement, and there's like an

1018
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: entire family reunion of raccoons like every night, just chilling

1019
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: out there on the couch and crawling on things. And

1020
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: it's just like, guys, can we can we have some

1021
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: respect for the property. I'm a homeowner now, I don't

1022
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't wanta have to shoot you. I don't have

1023
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: to put you in a cage or get an exterminator,

1024
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: just like, show some respect. Raccoons prints on my outdoor furniture.

1025
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: Critter Vision has a lot of raccoons too. It's got

1026
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: it's got DearS, POWs some stuff like that. But critic,

1027
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: raccoons are weird because they stand on their hind legs

1028
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: and then they use their two hands, kind of like humans,

1029
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: and there's something a little freaky about I. I don't

1030
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: agree that all animals are underrated, though, greg some are

1031
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: definitely getting a little too much attention or properly rated.

1032
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: All right, mark your pop culture. So I was just

1033
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna mention I think it songs sometimes like what I

1034
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: would go watch on my own and what simone we

1035
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: go watch would be two different shows. So when we

1036
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: can ven diagram that and find um a show that

1037
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: we like, it's very successful. And we've been watching the

1038
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: show Jinny and Georgia UM, which is essentially like a

1039
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: mom that had no I don't know the names of

1040
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: the people in it, but I'll help you out with that. Yeah,

1041
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: she had a daughter when she was like fifteen, but

1042
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: now the daughter is fifteen and the mom is thirty,

1043
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: and it's there. You know, she's not ready to be

1044
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: she's not happy that she's thirty with it, like probably

1045
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, no love life and stuff. So anyways, it

1046
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: takes some twists and turns, but we've enjoyed it. But

1047
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: the thing I really wanted to want to mention um

1048
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: is this film that I watched recently from ninety seven,

1049
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: directed by Paul Schrader called Rolling Thunder Um. This is

1050
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: hard to find, but there are one or two little

1051
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: services out there that have it. It was. It has

1052
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: a very young Tommy Lee Jones and William Devane, who

1053
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: William Devane is someone that I think no one would

1054
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I get that, I know who that is.

1055
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: But if you go and look at the actor in

1056
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: his face, you're like, I've seen if you have a

1057
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: certain age, you've seen him in a thousand different things.

1058
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: He was the junk ball starter for Major League. He

1059
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: was awesome in that name. He was the head coach

1060
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: and Rudy exactly so he everything he does, he does well.

1061
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: And this is um raw late seventies cinema about um

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Speaker 1: these guys returning from Vietnam, and it goes totally haywire.

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Speaker 1: It is listed as one of Tarantino's top five films,

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Speaker 1: and within ten minutes of watching it, it made it

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Speaker 1: so clear the influence that he had on him and

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Speaker 1: other genre cinema in general. So, um, it's not for everyone.

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Speaker 1: I'd think it's a pack a minute the mall or

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Speaker 1: show it to your nine year old type of film.

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Speaker 1: But you could show it to yourself if you've so

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Speaker 1: so pleased. Mm hmm. I I have to apologize the

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Speaker 1: coach and Rudy was not William Devane. Okay. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like Dan Divine, so close, so close, Ricky. Um.

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Speaker 1: So he also he was not the junk ball pitcher

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Speaker 1: in Major. I was like, but that's also Dan Devine

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Speaker 1: to that guy because I remember that guy and he

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Speaker 1: was a goofball. Um. Anyway, Um, Ricky, your pop culture recommendation,

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Speaker 1: I think I messed that up again too, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna circle back around on the divine Divine issue, William

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Speaker 1: Devane just for your reference. Um yeah, the Demilovado doc.

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Speaker 1: She released her own documentary. Um, it's on YouTube. It's

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Speaker 1: for free. There's only four episodes, and it talks about

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Speaker 1: her overdose, um and all the kind of stuff she

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Speaker 1: went through and like I remember following it and pulp,

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Speaker 1: you know, pop culture and everything, but to actually hear

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Speaker 1: what actually happened, like her friends were like, oh, we're

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Speaker 1: really talking about it, Like she was pretty much legally

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Speaker 1: blind when she woke up. She was blue when they

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Speaker 1: found her, like heroin all this kind of stuff, Like

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Speaker 1: I had no idea how bad it was. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: it's in the it's just her public record. Um. But

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Speaker 1: it even shows her singing at the super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: Miami the national anthem and sort of her coming back

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Speaker 1: to life literally and sort of her career, and it

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Speaker 1: was it was really really chilling. But then also to

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, we were there at that super Bowl

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Speaker 1: that was the last one before you know, we were

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Speaker 1: all locked inside. But I remember people on Twitter being like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, look at Demi totally killed the national

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Speaker 1: anthem when you know she's gone through all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't really know because I like followed it,

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Speaker 1: but like it wasn't super like didn't keep me up

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Speaker 1: at night. I'm not like a huge Demi love Auto fan.

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Speaker 1: But it was really really really heartbreaking and powerful and

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Speaker 1: worth a watch. Very good. Yeah, uh, I want to

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Speaker 1: see that. Thank you for reminding me. I'm marking that

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Speaker 1: as well. Last chance you, um you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be watching. I would watch a little Rolling Thunder. I

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Speaker 1: like I like that Paul Steger movie he just released

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Speaker 1: with the Ethan Hawk. I guess it was a few

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Speaker 1: years ago. First Reformed Steger has Got some bombs. The

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Speaker 1: junk ball Hurler in Major League The character was Eddie Harris.

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Speaker 1: The same actor played Dan Divine, the head coach of

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame and Rudy. But the actor's name is Chelsea Ross.

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Speaker 1: So now you got everything you need to know. Not

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Speaker 1: Mark's actor, not even close to the same name, but

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Speaker 1: coach that he played in a movie has a similar

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Speaker 1: name to that real person's name. Nailed it. That's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Why you're the host just circling back these big issues? Um?

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for today's edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. We'll be back Thursday with another episode

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Speaker 1: of The Pot and then the TV show is back

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Speaker 1: once again on Friday on NFL Network. Please check that out. Um,

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Speaker 1: but until then, Mrs Dan hands until Thursday, should say, uh?

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Speaker 1: Signing off for the plot storm the Old Boston Rickey,

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Speaker 1: Hollywood sap it All