1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and my name is Julie Douglas. Julie, 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm growing concerned. I'm growing concerned for our dear mail bot, 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Arnold Um. We haven't been calling him over a lot recently. 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: We've we've we've our own schedules have been crazy. We've 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: been covering some some topics that have gone a bit 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: long here and there, and for for various reasons, he 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: just remains over in his corner. The mail is piling 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: up around him, and I'm beginning to notice some some 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: unhealthy behavior in this secluded mechanoid. Are you talking about 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: the droppings? Yeah, that's one thing that's happening, Yes, Yeah, 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: And he's resting a little bit, he is. Yeah. So 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna take the oil can out today, and we're 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna have a little bit of listener mail that has 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: has built up, and and we're gonna make Arnie feel 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: a little bit better, I think in the so and 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and and as a byproduct, will also be able to 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: catch up on some some great listener mail. We just 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: leave so many great responses on Facebook through through our 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: email address. Most of it is wonderful, and yet we're 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: so busy, and there's so the time is so limited. 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: We don't really get to respond as much as we'd like. 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: We don't get to share as much on the podcast 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: as we would like. So today's the day we are 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: going to cover this listener mail and let's bring on 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: over Arnie. Hey there, Arnie, what have you got for us? Uh? 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: What have you got for us today? You got some 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: good ones that you've been building up? All right? Fair enough? 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: This first one comes to us from Facebook, and it 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: comes from listener Justin. Justin says, Hey, Robert and Julie 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your Aura 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Boris podcast today. However, I'm extremely disappointed that a couple 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: of fantasy nerds like you, or at least Robert seems 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: to be, didn't mention Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard it, there are four teen books, 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: about five hundred thousand pages each. So these books are 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: a significant investment in time, but I couldn't recommend them more. 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: The Aura Boris plays a strong role, being both the 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: symbol of the Wheel of Time, which drives this fantasy 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: world through repeating ages and the symbol of the main 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: magic users throughout the novels. Again, the series is a 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: major investment of your time, but the payoff is well 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: worth it. If you guys haven't read them yet, I 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: would highly recommend it. Thanks for the great podcast. You 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: have no idea how much it helps my commute and 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: the more mundane parts of my day justin so, yeah, yeah, yeah, 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: The Wheel of Time. It's a book series I've I've 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: long been aware of, but as time goes by, I 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: feel like I have I'm I'm ever against the idea 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: of engaging and yet another um long and or unfinished 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: fantasy series. I didn't you feel like that. You've got 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: so much stuff in the way of books or even 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: um like television series or movies that are stacking up there. Yeah, 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: it's like, I know it's great. I hear it's great, 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know that I have time in this 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: lifetime for it. We'll see, maybe I'll maybe I'll catch 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: a prison sentence at some point and then I can 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: throw myself at Wheel of Time. Are you not wishing 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: that upon yourself? I'm not wishing it, and myself. It's 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: it's a consolation prize. It's like out somehow I wound 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: up in prison. But at least there's wheel of time. 63 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Well okay, alright, so I don't I hope that you 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: have some other way of obtaining time. But the r 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: bars in case you guys out there did not catch 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: that one that was about the uh snake biting its 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: tail episode, and that was we covered the symbolic aspects 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, I was. That's one of those episodes 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: where briefly into the research, we didn't think there was 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: enough there to constitute a full episode, where like, maybe 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: there's just not enough here. This is more of a 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: a blog post. But then we then we we doubled down, 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: we research some more, and we started finding all these 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: crazy scientific or or philosophical aspects of the subject matter. Yeah, 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and even a robotic aspect of it as well. Yeah, alright, 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: let's hear from Francis. She posted this on Facebook, says, 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I loved this episode. Though when I tried explaining the 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: mother having her nephews to some friends that would get together, 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: they thought I had been doped into some urban legend. 80 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Where can I get my hands on more evidence? So 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: I can score my told just so moment. Well, Francis, 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: thank you for for letting us know about that. Um. 83 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: It is not an urban legend, but it has all 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the elements of it. Right. You have this mother who 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: had three sons, two of which had been tested to 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: see if they might be a good donor uh for her, 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: and found that genetically they did not match. And so 88 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: it was found that she actually absorbed her twin, which 89 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: means that the twins cellular material was passed on to 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: two of her sons. So all right, there's a study 91 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: by Margot cresscoll and is called disputed Maternity leading to 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: identification of tetra comedic camerism. So anybody else out there 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: who pulled this went off at a cocktail party, and 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: you need some bad up. That is the name of 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: the study. There you go printed out pass around because 96 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: everybody wants to read a ten page paper at a 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: cocktail It's an instant conversation starter. And if you're looking 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: to you know, score some romance, no better way. Yeah, 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: and don't let anybody skip down to the summary. That's 100 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: just yeah. I also wanted to mention I mentioned this 101 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: in our last episode, the episode of micro Climira was 102 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: suggested by listener Shawna, and I wanted to thank her 103 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: again because I don't think that I mentioned this in 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: the actual episode, and she is the reason why we 105 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: can all sit back and think about these dastartly things 106 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: going on in a southernly whether or not maybe one 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: of the siblings cells are dwelling within us. So thank you, Shawna. Cool. 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: All right, well, Arnold, what else do you have for us? Yeah? 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that sounds like a good one. Let 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: me see that one, Arnold. This one comes to us 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: from Camilla and uh. This is a response to our 112 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: episode on Staring and Camilla um works in China, which 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: which actually Camilla was actually a really helpful for me 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: right before my wife and I traveled to China on 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: our adoption trip, because I got to run a couple 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: of questions pastor about, you know, sort of cultural things 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: before we left. So Camilla writes in and she says, 118 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: great stuff on the Staring episode. I love I loved 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Julie Stare down with a seven year old, mainly because 120 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of that myself, as you know, living in 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: small town China, particularly small town with very few foreigners 122 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: I got a lot of stairs for being not Chinese. 123 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Not only stairs, but pointing competing people nudging each other 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: and pointing out that there's a lawa on the bus. 125 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure I completely butchered the Mandarin. Uh well, I'm 126 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: not even sure it's manner because I'm not sure what 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: part of China she's in, But I'm sure I butchered it, 128 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: she continues after After the novelty wears off, it can 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: get quite annoying. So one day on the bus, this 130 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: seven year old turns completely around and starts to stare 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: at me. We're not talking about a subtle here. She 132 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: was less than a foot away and was looking straight 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: at for at least two minutes, which seems like a 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: very long time when you're being stared at. Usually I 135 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: would just ignore it. They've probably never seen a foreigner before, 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: so let them soak it up. But that persistent stairs 137 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: just too innovating, So I decided to let her know 138 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: how it feels. I start staring back, and almost immediately 139 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: she backs down. I could see in her eyes how 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: uncomfortable she felt. And I go out on a limb 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: here and say that that's how most people feel like 142 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: when they're being stared at very uncomfortable, like your personal 143 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: space has been invaded, even from a distance. So there 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: you go. That's there's some some interesting insight into the 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: experience of staring. Um. I also feel better about about 146 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: staring star off with a seven year old, So thank 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: you Camilla, you know. And I knew from Camilla and 148 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: just from general reading of prior to our travel to China, 149 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: that there would be a lot of stairs, particularly when 150 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: we were in Ending where there there are certainly far 151 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: in a huge city seven million people, I believe, but 152 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: there are fewer foreigners, and so we we did receive 153 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: a lot of stairs there. And it's just sort of 154 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: culturally more okay to stare at strange giant westerners with 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: blonde hair. Uh. And at first it was it was okay, 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of I knew why what was 157 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: going on. I knew culturally what the deal was. So 158 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, it's fine. I'm I'm an outsider. 159 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: I look weird. I'm only fall outsider with I don't 160 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: know were they blewe e eyes green green green, and 161 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: then kind of blonde his hair. So yeah, so in 162 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: and you know, my wife too, we both got a 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of stairs. But early on were you know, it 164 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: was fine. We you know, we realized what was happening. 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: But as the trip progressed, I found that it kind 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: of grated on me more and more. Not that I 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: was like actively getting angry about it, like stopped staring 168 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: at me or anything, but I just I felt more 169 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: and more like I wanted to hide somewhere or go 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: somewhere where people wouldn't be staring. Even though it's not 171 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: like I didn't feel safe. I felt safe the entire 172 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: time I was in China, but I I it was, 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: it just kind of begins to irritate you more and more. 174 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: Not even irritate you, just make you feel did you 175 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: feel objectifying, like sort of like us than human or no, 176 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: it's just well maybe in a sense like in a 177 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: in a in an unconscious sense, like you just reached 178 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the point where you just don't want to be stared 179 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: at anymore, Like for for just non formulated reasons. You're 180 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: just like, I just want to be me and be 181 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: privately me somewhere and and not looked at as an outsider. 182 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: So when you got back to the States, though, did 183 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: you were you so used to being stared at We're like, hey, 184 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: what what's going on? I'm right here, guys, I don't 185 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: I guess it's it was in a way it's nice 186 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: to be on Marta and just be ignored. I don't know, 187 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: it's just nice to be ignored. But it was a 188 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: great experience too, and to realize, to help realize what 189 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: it's like for people who get stares everywhere, people who 190 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: you know, how either say unnaturally tall, unnaturally short, or 191 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: there's something about them, you know, maybe they're just you know, 192 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: the racially the racial inversion of my situation where they 193 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, they find themselves, you know, surrounded by a 194 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: bunch of you know, tall, pale white people and it's 195 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: and and they are the outsider. It feels weird. So 196 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: so it was great experience in that it does give 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: me more insight, I feel, into into what it's like 198 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: to be the other. Yeah. But as Camilla suggested my 199 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: my my wife a few different times said that she 200 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: would just stare back. It's someone who's staring at and 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: she's like, well, if they're staring at me, it gives 202 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: me full license to stare at them. But I was 203 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: always too awkward to do that. It's like like that, 204 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: because I know they don't. They don't actually want to 205 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: be stared at, So I'm not gonna give them what 206 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm feeling, you know, And then you have to engage 207 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: in their souls if you do that. Yeah, I don't 208 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: want to make eye contact with anyone anyway. So all right. 209 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: We got another email on staring. This is from Vic 210 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: and he said, I enjoyed the recent podcasts in the 211 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: Science of Staring. As a poker player, you can imagine 212 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: that there's quite a bit of staring as a group 213 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: of guys sit around a small table playing cards for 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: hours on end, many of these guys posturing to be 215 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: the alpha mail at the table. After yeah, after either 216 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: having made a bet or perhaps facing a bet, players 217 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: exhibit a variety of stairs. Some stare blankly at the 218 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: cards in the middle of the table, trying not to 219 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: give away any tells, while others choose to stare down 220 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: their opponent while their conscious minds try to determine if 221 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: they're beat or being bluffed. Their unconscious emotional minds are 222 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: always on the lookout for hints as well. After listening 223 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: to your podcast, I tried this little experiment. I had 224 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: a particularly strong hand and on the river. Once all 225 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: the cards had been dealt, I raised my opponent. He 226 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: had the most chips at the table and was embracing 227 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: the alpha male roll at the table that afternoon, while 228 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: deciding whether to call my rays or fold, he stared 229 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: at me. I was looking at the center of the table, 230 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: trying not to give off any signals that might help him. 231 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: But I decided that I would stare back at him, 232 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: but only for a second or two, and then only 233 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: very meekly. I looked into his stare, looked away, and 234 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: then back and quickly back at the center of the table. Certainly, 235 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: in alpha male would not want to be bluffed out 236 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: of a sizeable pot. He may have, in fact logically 237 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: come to the correct conclusion that he was beat, but 238 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: not wanting to back down from what may have appeared 239 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: as a weaker stare from his opponent, he called. He 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: called his hand, I suppose right. What I found most 241 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: interesting was that as he was pushing his chips into 242 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: the pot, he actually said, I know I'm beat, but 243 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: I just have to call. I showed him my hand 244 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: and he quietly folded his cards. I may continue to 245 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: use the staring tactic from time to time when facing 246 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: who I perceive as the alpha male at the poker table, 247 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: when I'm holding what I think is the winning cand 248 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Thanks to stuff to blow the mind for this valuable 249 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: bit of science. By the way, I vote no to 250 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: abbreviating the as t H. Keep up the great work. 251 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I love it. See you listen to the podcast and 252 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: it improves your gambling and your ability well and and 253 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,359 Speaker 1: on a more a less you know, hilarious sense, it 254 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: helps you better navigate the world because you're a little 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: more aware about what's going on. I love that he 256 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: was like, I'm identifying the alpha male. I'm going to 257 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: trick him into this sort of weak stare. I'm gonna 258 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: take all this money. The the alpha male stare thing 259 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: is weird and is and is the worst. Like I would, 260 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: I far prefer the outsider stare than the alpha mail stair. 261 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: I certainly didn't get any weird alpha mair mail stare 262 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: stuff going on when I was in China. As a 263 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: side note, I recently saw that there was a study 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: that said that men with wider faces appear to be 265 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: more aggressive. But I wonder if that's a staring thing, 266 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Like if it's staring just seems more pronounced anyway, it's 267 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: something that's uh I shall check into. All Right, we're 268 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break and we come back. We're 269 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna have some more listener mail here with our robot friend. 270 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: All Right, we're back. Um, what else do you have 271 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: for us, Arnold? I know you have a you have 272 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: a lot of mail there. Do you have some some 273 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: other tantalizing bits of correspondence to share? Oh, here's one. 274 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: This one comes to us from Jesse. Uh. Jesse's responding 275 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: to um some of our Hell related content that has 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: come out over the years, and we've done quite a 277 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: bit of it, a lot of that's my fault, but 278 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: we've we've talked about the science of Hell, we've talked 279 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: about the problem of Hell from more of a philosophical 280 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: sociological standpoint, and of course we did that whole series 281 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: on the Seven Deadly Sins. So Hell pops up frequently. 282 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: And Uh, I also been talking about Dante. So Jesse 283 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: writes in from Sitney, Australian, says, hey, guys, longtime listener, 284 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: first time emailer. I really enjoyed the recent episodes in 285 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: Hell and was reminded of this fantastic song by a 286 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: new Jersey metal band, iced Earth. The song is about 287 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: fourteen minutes long and it's full of melody, complexity, and 288 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: well metal. It conveys a sense of journey and mystery, 289 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: and I challenge you to listen to it without headbanging. 290 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed as much as I have now 291 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: over a decade. Include a YouTube link, but again, you 292 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: can just search for iced Earth and uh hopefully find 293 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: uh this this particular track. So it was interesting because uh, 294 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: I love any kind of uh uh situation where a 295 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: topic that we've covered uh collides with music in any 296 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: shape or form Alright, so you got your your hell on? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 297 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: and uh and I think maybe I was headbanging a little, 298 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, I thought I saw you your desk doing that. Yeah, 299 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I was pretty sure I have. I've taught the toddler 300 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: to a head bang a little bit. Yeah, how's that going? 301 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Pretty good? He'll do it in the car, you know. 302 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: He all that the booty dancing came naturally to him, 303 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: and it's like it always does, but that I had 304 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: to sort of show him that this is what you 305 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: do if we're playing Black Sabbath in the car, that 306 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: you're supposed to move your head and he seems to 307 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: catch on. See, maybe we should do an episode on 308 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the science of headbanging? What is that about? Mash pits? 309 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: What's that about? There's a whole like world of metal, 310 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: uh you know in face melting that it needs to 311 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: be you know, research and you know how about the 312 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: hair the physics of the hair? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? And 313 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: what and how is the headbanging different between the long 314 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: hair and the shaved head, Like those are the two extremes. 315 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of headbanging in the realms, 316 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: you don't. I mean, how much momentum does that hair create? Anyway? Yeah? 317 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Which is better? And is that? What are the long 318 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: term health effects? There's something there and I bet you 319 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: anyway that there's a study. All right, here we have 320 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: another one. Uh Wehen when we were talking about Hell, 321 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: we brought up the the Buddhist Hell theme park in Singapore, 322 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: And since our listeners are based all over and travel 323 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: all over, inevitably we had a couple of different listeners 324 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: right in about it. We heard from a Chin and 325 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: we heard from young about the theme park, and they 326 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: both sent us a bunch of pictures. Uh here just 327 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: a couple of quick excerpts gen Wright sentences. Hi, I'm 328 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: a listener from Singapore. I recently became a huge fan 329 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: of the show thanks to Neptina, my girlfriend. Recently, while 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I was sandwiched between sad disgruntled office workers on my 331 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: way to work, I was listening to the episode called 332 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Symbols on the Brain, and being from Singapore, you're mentioning 333 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: of the health theme park caught my attention immediately. That 334 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: is not to say I paid no attention to the 335 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: rest of the podcast. I remember visiting of hop har 336 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Villa when I was about seven years old. Boy did 337 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: it lead and leave an impression. The Ten Courts of 338 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: Hell was and continues to be the main attraction the 339 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: now defunct theme park. As a kid, I wrongfully assumed 340 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: that I was going to see animatronic dragons at this 341 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: part of the part, since the Ten Courts of Hell 342 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: attraction was located inside a sixty ft long dragon. Back then, 343 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: after coming out of the place, I had bed wedding 344 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: nightmares for two weeks straight. So the Ten Courts of 345 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: Hell work something like that. The first Court of Hell 346 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: is basically the courtroom, and it is believed that you 347 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: go there When you die, they're a judge called King 348 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: Quinn Young will conduct a preliminary trial based on your 349 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: past deeds. The good people get to go get to 350 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: pass onto the new life on the bad people will 351 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: be assigned to different courts of Hell. In subsequent courts, 352 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: things get a little interesting. For example, robbers are thrown 353 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: into a volcanic pit, Prostitutes are thrown into a pool 354 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: of blood and drowned and ungrateful people have their hearts 355 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: torn out. Drug addicts and tomb raiders, on the other hand, 356 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: get tied to a red hot copper pillar and burned alive. 357 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Other forms of punishments include being thrown onto a hill 358 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: of knives, sawed in half, thrown into a pot of 359 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: boiling oil, dismemberment, crushed under boulders, etcetera. In ha Parvilla itself, 360 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: you will see every court of Hell in detail, complete 361 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: with miniature clay figurines being tortured or for your or 362 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: lack of better words, viewing pleasure. Of course, ha par 363 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Villa is way more than that. Hap Prvilla was built 364 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties by Ah boon Ha, a wealthy 365 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: businessman who loved his younger brother very much. Boon Ha 366 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: grew up a firm believer of Eastern ideologies and values, 367 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: while his younger brother learned always leaned always to the West. 368 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: To remind his younger brother of his roots, Boon Hall 369 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: built a theme park filled with Chinese mythologies, stories, and symbols. 370 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: The Ten Courts of Hell is merely one of the 371 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: many attractions in this theme park. There you will also 372 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: see traditional Chinese mythologies brought to life via statues. In fact, 373 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: speaking of symbols, the entire park has a lot of 374 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: circular motifs built right into the architecture. From the top, 375 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: you will see that the park is circular, which is 376 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: supposed to symbolize harmony and the importance of family, a 377 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: point at which the elder brother wanted the younger brother 378 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: to remember. Ha Parvilla gained a rather unsavory reputation of 379 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: the years due to the grotesque nature of his exhibits 380 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that the statues uh were never crafted 381 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: very well in the first place. Still, even though not 382 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: very many people bother to visit it these days, it's 383 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: one of those places. It's so bad it's good. You 384 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: just have to see it to believe it anyway, you 385 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: guys are one of the very few podcasts I listened to. 386 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. I love your show. Wow, 387 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: we got an inside tour of that. It is so 388 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what my appetite for it even more. Yeah, 389 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: And I like how he you know, he drew out 390 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: that there's a there's a lot more to it than 391 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: just you know, the pictures that that makes falter through 392 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: to to to Western viewers. Um. I mean, if if 393 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I ever get the chance to be in the same 394 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: vicinity of it, I would obviously I would go, oh yeah, 395 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: it's a new brainer. Yeah, alright, whether what other fresh 396 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: hell do you have for us? We also heard from 397 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: another listener again, this one came from Young talking about 398 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: the Buddhist hell and and he just wanted to mention 399 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: that it was created by the founders of Tiger Bomb 400 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: and uh and then when when it was when it 401 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: was built in and it was originally called Tiger Bomb 402 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Gardens but was changed to his current name in night 403 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: by the Tourism board says it's free to enter for 404 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: anyone and there's even a subway station in front of it. Uh. 405 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: It must have run out of funds or something. Because 406 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: when I visited it was in a state of disrepair, 407 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: which might actually have helped enhance the creepy nature of 408 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: the place. The area show different levels or areas of 409 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: hell and how centers are public punished in various graphic 410 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: and gory ways. It's an interesting place to go for 411 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: anyone visiting Singapore, if not for the creepy abandoned theme 412 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: park experience, then for the educational value um. And then 413 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: he includes a number of images which were all fabulous. 414 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: I love how he mentioned that the rundown aspect of 415 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: it made it all the more creepy because as a 416 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: as an Atlanta resident, reminds me of the old What 417 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: what was the ride at six Flags Plantation Mountain Plantation 418 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: one of my favorite rides. Yeah, and I understand they've 419 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: redone it and it's probably they probably ruined it in 420 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: the process, to my opinion, because it used to be 421 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: awesome in the fact that it was falling apart and 422 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: then there's this musty stench in the air, and and 423 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: there was when you go through Monster Plantation or the 424 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Southern Gothic set up by the way, which is already 425 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: a little weird, and there's a plantation where there are monsters, 426 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: and the first part of it is happy, and then 427 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: there's like a scary part and then you're a yeah, 428 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: and you're on a little boat with you know, undrinkable 429 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: water around you. And the scary part isn't really scary, 430 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: but the happy party is like super creepy, or was 431 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: super creepy because of the beings are animatronic, they're falling 432 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: apart sometimes their metal skeletons are are showing through, and 433 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: there is just a creepy, uncanny experience. It's like an 434 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: old southern lady and an antebellum gown animatronic. And then 435 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: you go into the scary part and there was a 436 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: big old sheriff like it's very much like Dukes of 437 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: hazard kind of and he's like, no, go down. It's 438 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: good stuff. So there's something I would like to hear 439 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: for any of our local or Atlanta based listeners or 440 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: anyone who's traveled there. Let me know what it's like now, 441 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: because I don't actually want to go. I just want yeah, 442 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: I know, alright, um, let me see here, Arnie, do 443 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: you have something from me? Oh? Thank you? All right. 444 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: We had a good amount of emails without word of 445 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: version because everybody had an opinion about it. Either they 446 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: didn't have a word of version or they did and 447 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: they shared it with us, and it was really interesting. 448 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: This was the episode that you and Alison Ladermilk did 449 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: while I was away, and I have to say it 450 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: was a great episode and it was interesting for me 451 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: to get to listen to stuff to blow your mind 452 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: and not know what was going to happen right right, 453 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: because you didn't have any sort of like, oh, I 454 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: don't have an outline on this. Yeah, I didn't have 455 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: an outline with those crazy kids are going to cover. 456 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: So it's so it was a really cool episode. Thanks well, 457 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Well this one is from Nando 458 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: and Nana says, I've been a listener for a while. 459 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: I was listening to the Word of Version episode and 460 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: even though I do not have a word of version, 461 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: I do have a word that I love saying. Because 462 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: we also talked about words that we are attracted to, 463 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: and that word being the word mulch, mulch. I don't 464 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: go around all days saying it, but I do enjoy 465 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: it a lot. It is not only fun to hear it, 466 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: but it also feels good in my mouth. We talked 467 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: about that in the podcast to like there's certain sort 468 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: of satisfaction of its almost like kind of Marble's mulch 469 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: in your mouth. Um. I think that it's the sound 470 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: that makes it so appealing to me. Anyway, love the show, 471 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. Alright, And this one is 472 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: from Chris says, Hey, Robert and Julie finally caught up 473 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: on all the podcasts. Just want to say that the 474 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Alison episode on word version was excellent and that she 475 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: and Julie did a great joble Robert's way, my weird 476 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: word aversion. Comic kaze a good word, but I thought 477 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: it was pronounced differently as a kid, and when I 478 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: found out the correct way, I became annoyed. To this day, 479 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: I tend to cringe whenever I see it. Oh, it 480 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: haunts me. Keep up the awesome work. Sorry for using 481 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: awesome when we talked about that, is that one of 482 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: the words that kept landing on the list, because awesome 483 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: is like the word love is far overused and when 484 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: we actually encounter something or imagine something that is awe 485 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: inspiring that is awesome in a in a grander sense, 486 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: the word fails to don't Yeah, you're like that, I 487 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: can't use that word. That's really the appropriate word, but 488 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: now it's been watered down, and I have nothing like 489 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: an Angel of the Lord like steps out of a 490 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: UFO and starts handing out twinkies and then splits the 491 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: earth in half. Like that's an awesome sight. But you 492 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: can't say it's awesome because you already said that a 493 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: cup of coffee you had earlier in the day was awesome, 494 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: and and now that you've had this paranormal twinkie episode, 495 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: you just can't put the two in the same category. 496 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: I can definitely relate with her about the whole pronunciation thing, 497 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: because there have been words in in the past where 498 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: like I grew up saying I'm weird or or even 499 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: like for a very brief time, like when I first 500 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: read Jurassic Park, I didn't know it was pronounced a velociraptor, 501 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: and I think I said velisa raptor and uh, and 502 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: then it was corrected on it, and it's like, I 503 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like in junior high or not even 504 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: quite junior high, but still the word velociraptor, I'll remember, 505 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: like that, the pain of having to be corrected on 506 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: its pronunciation. Yeah, I'm still angry at detritus. I want 507 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: it to be Detritus just feels like it should be. 508 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: But I'm very annoyed with the word as well. UM. 509 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: Got one more word of version. This is from Francis. 510 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: I was so surprised to see your word of version 511 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: podcast today. I had no idea there were others like me. 512 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: There are. I never bring word version up and conversation 513 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: because of the natural follow up question what words? And 514 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to say them. They are, for the 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: most part, completely normal, everyday words that don't describe body 516 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: parts or anything disgusting. But when I hear someone use one, 517 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: it stops me completely. I have to digest what I 518 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: just heard, consider the word. It takes me a while 519 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: to recover. The most mild one that I'm willing to 520 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: write down is purse. Even that gave me a chill, 521 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: And that is the most mild of all the words 522 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: that I don't say. I wish I could do the 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: sentence thing this was. We invited people to create their 524 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: own sentences of words that we're we're reverse of um, 525 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: but it would take me a long time to recover. 526 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: I appreciated your sentence in the show, though some of 527 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: the words, one in particular is on my list, and 528 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: so it made me shiver to hear it. This whole 529 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: word thing is so ridiculous. My husband thinks I'm crazy, 530 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: but it's very real, and I can't seem to flip 531 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: that switch off. So in the meantime I just speak 532 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: in awkward sentences to avoid saying the bad words, sometimes 533 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: very awkward sentences things. For the great show, I listened intently, 534 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: was really interested in learning more about this word a 535 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: version thing. Well, thanks for sharing that with us, Francis 536 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: that I mean, I sort of understand that there are 537 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: certain trigger words and you don't want to say it, 538 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: and so there are certain words that sometimes they're just 539 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: trepidacious about and I end up having some sort of 540 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: word salad coming out of my mouth. So I can 541 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: sort of understand from a from a limited perspective speaking 542 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: which trepidacious great word? Yeah, it's a nice one. I 543 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: also like, there are a lot of great words I like, 544 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: But what's your most favorite? I don't know, Like I 545 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: was just thinking gargantulan is a great word, yeah, galgatha 546 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: like anything like which, remembering that one stem from the 547 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: other one, like any kind of word that has a 548 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of a rolling cadence to it. I really like, 549 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: I really like coalyptiancalyptian, that's pretty good. That's mainly because 550 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: it means well formed buttocks. What other word could could 551 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: express such a sentiment? Reminds me cyclopean. I really like, yeah, um. 552 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: I mean there's so many, but I don't know if 553 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: it's really a word aversion or just an aversion to um. 554 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Often are reluctance or inability to fully describe smells. And 555 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before. I tend to dislike people saying 556 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: something stinks, especially in reference to food, reference to cheeses 557 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: that stink quote unquote stink. If they say a stinky 558 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: cheese like that tends to get to me because I 559 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: feel like that's you're describing food, you're describing something that doesn't. 560 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, stink is just such a it's a broadly 561 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: applied word that doesn't actually convey any meaning. Like an. 562 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: I think we should use a we should have a 563 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: better vocabulary for for smells, and and if and if 564 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about cheeses, especially in their children 565 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: around and you you know, you want to foster an 566 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: idea that that all foods should at least be tried. 567 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Then maybe that cheese is not so much stinky as 568 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: it is, uh, you know, aromatic or pungent. Okay, you 569 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: need a team up with the odor artist. Setil told 570 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: us first of all, yeah, she's very much of the 571 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: same mindset. So second, you're pinning down a usage thing. 572 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: But is there one word that just chills you to 573 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: the marrow? Oh? Okay, what about vomit? I tend to 574 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: like vomit um. How could you love vomit? And on 575 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: all the lists, I don't. I mean, I don't like 576 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: vomiting and I don't like the substance of vomit. But 577 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: it's a v word and uh, and it rhymes with comet. 578 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: It has a very like it does have the plose 579 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: of consonants going for it. One of my favorite name 580 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: fictional names is there's a Brian mcnaton's book Throne of Bones. 581 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: There's a character, it's the King of the Ghoules and 582 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: his name is vomcron Noxus, which so I love that 583 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: name because it's taking a vomit and it's taking noxious 584 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: and it's kind of twisting the words around and creating 585 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: this new word rawn for chronos in it as well. Yeah, 586 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: there's a sense of that as well. You know, that's 587 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: sort of an ancient and godly uh statue to it. 588 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: So I tend to really like fake words and fake 589 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: names in fantasy and science fiction when they're well crafted, 590 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: not when they're just sort of you know, mindless dungeons 591 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: and dragons, sort of word salad where you just call 592 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, some sort of vaguely tolken esque, uh, you know, 593 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: elf name or something. But I really have a hard 594 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: time thinking of any word that I dislike just for 595 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: the sake of the word. Maybe if I, if I 596 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: think about it, I'll share it in a future podcast 597 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: episode with Moist. It's not my go to word, and 598 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: I know that it annoys enough people that I would 599 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: probably not use it, Like, it's not really in my 600 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: satchel of words, but it's it doesn't bother me. All right, Well, 601 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: we should probably wrap up because I need to go 602 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: attend to this Moist crevice. Nothing. Well, I know that 603 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: you're using words you just like in a sentence, so 604 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: I thought I saw you WinCE. Yeah, well maybe a 605 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: little bit, but still it's not a not a strong, 606 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: not a like a you know, a visceral reaction. So 607 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to think, I'm I'm just gonna have 608 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: to be aware of myself listen and find that word that. 609 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'll try to drop as many drop 610 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: as many drop the whole list at me, you know, 611 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: in one sentence, if possible, I know what I'm doing 612 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: this week. All right, Well, there there you go, Arnold. 613 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: Do you feel better? Yeah, you feel a little more 614 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: more balanced, a little more healthy. Well that's great. 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