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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey guys, another week of the almost

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Speaker 1: famous podcast. I'm Ben, I'm Ashley, And a lot has

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Speaker 1: happened since we talked last Ben. Uh crazy? How two

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Speaker 1: weeks and the world is a different place. Yeah. Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's been two weeks since we talked. We took last

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Speaker 1: week off in remembrance of Memorial Day. We're back this week. Actually,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot that I want to say. You have

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Speaker 1: a lot to say too. From what I've heard from

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Speaker 1: you on social media so far, You've been saying so

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Speaker 1: many great things, so many powerful things. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm very inarticulate moments like this, but you shine. So

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk. Well. I need to give

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Speaker 1: our listeners a little backstory. And you've known this as

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Speaker 1: my co host, and our team knows this. I've been

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Speaker 1: really struggling with this podcast, um and and and it

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Speaker 1: started with a message that I got on Instagram months

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Speaker 1: ago where somebody had said that our Facebook group had

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Speaker 1: became so hateful and hate philed. So I started reading

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Speaker 1: it and I saw the negative um things that about

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Speaker 1: you and I about others, about our people that listen

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. Um, and it started to just hit deep.

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Speaker 1: It took, I mean, all of my confidence away. Um,

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Speaker 1: it took a lot of my excitement for getting on

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Speaker 1: here and talking to you and talking to our fans

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Speaker 1: and our listeners and our friends. UM. A lot of

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Speaker 1: the criticism I listened to, which I don't typically do.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the criticism came and said in the

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Speaker 1: words of hey, I over explained myself. So I've been

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Speaker 1: working on that. I get it. And when more than

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Speaker 1: one person says it, I want to listen, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to not listen. Another criticism said that

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Speaker 1: I am too preachy, and quite frankly, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: listen to a podcast that I host, you're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: me talk about Jesus. Like I don't know what else

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Speaker 1: to say, Like, it's just it's part of my belief system,

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Speaker 1: is part of my life. If you don't like it,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you still listen, Like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to stop talking about who I am. But even

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Speaker 1: if you disagree, I hope we can at least have

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Speaker 1: a conversation and get somewhere of understanding. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: why you do podcast. Another criticism, UH said that my

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Speaker 1: questions I I lead up to them too much. That's

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Speaker 1: fair too, and I'll listen to those things. Um. But

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Speaker 1: it started to sink in and I started to feel it.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that was said, and this is why I

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Speaker 1: say all this UM. As I started to really try

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Speaker 1: to process this, another criticism was I was two PC

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Speaker 1: and it's I'm not unfamiliar with that criticism. I've had

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Speaker 1: it forever, and I've tried consciously here of the last

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Speaker 1: few months to figure out where that comes from. Because

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Speaker 1: a lot of times I'm PC because they're complex issues

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Speaker 1: that have a lot of different sides, and to pick

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Speaker 1: my stake in the ground on one side oftentimes fears

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Speaker 1: feels irresponsible and it feels like I'm causing more harm

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Speaker 1: hearing the other side because I'm stuck in my ways,

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Speaker 1: and so I try to stay in the middle. We

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Speaker 1: we know the stories that we we talked about, actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, I talked about all of them. The headlines

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Speaker 1: that we cover. Oftentimes there's a lot going on behind

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Speaker 1: And then two weeks ago, Hannah Brown comes out and

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Speaker 1: says the N word on social media and it takes me.

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Speaker 1: Let's even backtrack, Ahmad are Berry is shot in cold

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Speaker 1: That's where it starts, okay, and then Hannah says the

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Speaker 1: we said that Hannah was wrong for what she did.

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Speaker 1: And that's about where we left it, and Ashley, I'll

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Speaker 1: stick to that. Now, there's more to the story here.

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Speaker 1: I do want to I want to address um the

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Speaker 1: fan backlash that we got a little of, Like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: are open to racial injustice. How are we going to respond?

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's not a secret. There's two white

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Speaker 1: people hosting this podcast, right. We we are not experts

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Speaker 1: of things that we are learning. But Hannah Brown was wrong.

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Speaker 1: What Hannah did was not right. Now at the same time,

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Speaker 1: So here's my Here's here's where uh if you want

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Speaker 1: accepting Hannah, but recognizing what she did was wrong. What

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Speaker 1: I hope we can hear what Hannah says, and hey,

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Speaker 1: who spoke out held her accountable. She told her fans,

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Speaker 1: don't defend me on this. I was wrong. And it

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Speaker 1: leads us to the point of saying, Okay, we've gone

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Speaker 1: to forgive. I think the black community, from my friends

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Speaker 1: typically when it comes to topics that we talk about

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Speaker 1: to a conclusion. Except for now, Except for now, Now

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Speaker 1: I'm getting defensive. Hey, all of us on this Black

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Speaker 1: Then I beg you, as people that actually night and

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Speaker 1: But it's not okay to not learn. It's not okay

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Speaker 1: this is a horrid situation when the angers us as

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Speaker 1: up to this. But we're waking up. And I beg

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Speaker 1: the idea that black lives matter, and that's not to

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Speaker 1: those things, and that it's just this frivolous place. And

429
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: now you become the speakers of a generation, and what

430
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: pressure to put on you, you you know. And so I'm

431
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: really of the mindset of I'm trying to be gentle

432
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: with myself and I'm trying to be gentle with other

433
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: people because I'm doing the best I can and it's imperfect.

434
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: And this is going to be a lifetime of education.

435
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: There's not going to be one time where I could

436
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: come back on your show and say I have figured

437
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: it out. I have figured out how to be a

438
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: black ally in this world. But we have to try,

439
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: and we have to educate ourselves. And um, and the

440
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: thing that I really learned that I'm embarrassed that I

441
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: learned at thirty eight years old, after being on television

442
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: for a decade, is that it is not the responsibility

443
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: of our black friends to educate us. That, you know.

444
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: I I saw so many people in our Lady Gain

445
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: Facebook group, myself reaching out to my black friends and saying,

446
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think I should do? And

447
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: they're like, go yourself, Like you should know what to do?

448
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: Is not I'm exhausted from just being black, Like, it

449
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: is not my job to go around and educate you.

450
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a turning point that I've had. Um.

451
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: You know, I love this conversation of it's not enough

452
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: to just say I'm not a racist person. I'm not

453
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: a racist person. I don't lip sync the N word

454
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: when I'm singing rap songs like I. You know, there's

455
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: different levels right of like of these of people, and

456
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: it's like I'm one of those people that's like never, never, never,

457
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: So I can consider myself like I'm I'm good at this,

458
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not, you know what I mean? I learned

459
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: this week so many things, even just in the last

460
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: four or five days, that I was doing wrong, that

461
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: I was asking, you know, the community to help me

462
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: when it's not their job to help me. And so,

463
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm sick to my stomach. I

464
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: haven't slept. I'm sick, and like, can you imagine what

465
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: that feels like on us, what we feel, how uncomfortable

466
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: we feel right now. These people have been feeling this

467
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: way their whole lives. And that was my first question,

468
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: is what have you learned um in the last few weeks?

469
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: And and you know, maybe you're you know we said

470
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: it earlier, maybe you've been the type of person who

471
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: has been learning this your whole life. But one of

472
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: the hardest realizations for me and and Ashley personally, as

473
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: we've talked offline, is there's been a plank in my

474
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: eye for thirty one years of my life. I thought

475
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing was right. I thought

476
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't a racist, But as you said,

477
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm learning this week, that there are things that I've

478
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: done every day, there's things that I've said, there's ways

479
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: I've treated people that is exhausting for the black community,

480
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: that is exhausting, that it's it's not fair and it's

481
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: not right. So my first question was, what have you learned? Um,

482
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you say, uh, and we'll get into

483
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: the book in a second, but it's interesting that you

484
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: say that it's not the job of the black community

485
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: to to educate us. Can you dive into that a

486
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: little bit, because, um, it has I mean, you're right,

487
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: like if we're exhausted this week, right, So, so you

488
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: and I sitting here and Ashley sitting there, and ash

489
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: she was in tears a little bit ago, and we're saying,

490
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this has been an exhausting week. Holy cow,

491
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: let's take a step back and realize that that this

492
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: like how how privileged is it for us to say

493
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: it's been an exhausting week? Because if you said this

494
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: is a lifetime for them, right, Well, it's interesting, you know, Um,

495
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: I I think the thing that I've learned is that

496
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: it was really interesting. I had this wonderful conversation with

497
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: one of the co hosts um On Entertainment tonight in

498
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Michelle Turner, who I love like a sister. We worked

499
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: together for a decade. We share a love of fashion.

500
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: We get cod over celebrities. You know, we host the

501
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: SAG Awards for a d together, like we match our outfits.

502
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm actually really just embarrassed, like I'm so sorry because

503
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: I've been your friend for all these years, but like,

504
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: have I been a good friend? Like I'm not sure

505
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: that I have. And I think I've come to you

506
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: before and said what do you think of this? And

507
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: I've realized it's not you know, your job to educate me.

508
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: And she said something so wonderful. She said, Kelty, you know,

509
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: anytime you're uncomfortable or you're making progress, there's nothing to

510
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: be ashamed about. So you shouldn't feel ashamed about that.

511
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 1: And and she said, um, and anyone who makes you

512
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: feel that way is probably awf a little bit. And

513
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: she and then she said, you know, I've had a

514
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: very similar learning experience with the lgbt Q community. She's like,

515
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: I grew up in the South black South, like I

516
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: maybe didn't have my lessons in that. And so I

517
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: actually loved that answer because it made me feel like

518
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: we all as human beings have something to learn. This

519
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: is the thing this week that we absolutely have to

520
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: focus on long term. This can't just be like a

521
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: flash in a pan thing obviously, but you know, it's like,

522
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: I was really appreciative and I think that when you

523
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: show that you're doing the work that I think our

524
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: friends are black friends are thankful for that, you know.

525
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: With Lady again yesterday, we realized we kind of sat

526
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: back INTOK a couple of days and you know, we

527
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: have we don't do politics on our podcast, we don't

528
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: do politics on our Facebook because we felt like when

529
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: we started the brand, you know, politics is that thing

530
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: that divides people. Right, it's like your left or your right,

531
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: and I'm Canadian, so I'm like different, you know, and

532
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: then there's like UK and you know, so it's like

533
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: if we want this one world community of women, like

534
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: you can't really do politics as we always took it

535
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: out of the group. And then we realized, well, maybe

536
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: we've done ourselves a disservice by kind of avoiding these

537
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: hard conversations. It's a little easier, um, and we had

538
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: to go to our fans and be like we sucked

539
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: up and we didn't use our power in the right way,

540
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: and like we have to change that and now we are.

541
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: But how embarrassing We've been doing this for five years.

542
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: I've been on TV for ten years, like I'm forty.

543
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: It's so freaking pathetic that we're doing this right now.

544
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm so embarrassed that I'm reading the book White

545
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Fragility for the first time, Like I should have been

546
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: doing this when I was nineteen, like I'm or six. Well,

547
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing, Um, I appreciate you, Keelty, thank you

548
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: for for sharing it. And yeah, um just that on,

549
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. But yeah, we do have a

550
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: book to promote. It feels so stupid. I literally am

551
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: like what am I doing? And also I'm like a psycho,

552
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Like all I want to do is promote this book,

553
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: like I have loved and lived this book for a

554
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: year and a half, Like I'm it's like I'm birthing

555
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: my child and they can't get the babies it would

556
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: tell us about the book. It's called Act like a Lady.

557
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: So basically it's totally stupid in light of what's happening

558
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: in the world. But here's what you do. You get

559
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: your book that's going to help you change your mindset

560
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: on these issues that are in our country. You get

561
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: your face mask and you wear it and you don't

562
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: go to the beach and be besides someone four feet

563
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: away only and then you get act like a lady

564
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: off Amazon. You put it on the bookshelf for a week,

565
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: and then when you feel like the time is right

566
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: for something fun, you open the book and you see

567
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: the vagina wallpaper and you know that this is going

568
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: to be. This is gonna be where you're gonna go

569
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: with the book. So Jack drew these vaginas. Now that

570
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: the book is essentially Um, thanks for asking. I feel

571
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: so stupid to I'm just gonna say this again, like

572
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: I feel ridiculous. Um, but listen, this is a year

573
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: and a half of hard work and I want to

574
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: honor it that work. Um, So the books and four points.

575
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: It's your relationship with yourself, your relationship with your lover,

576
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: your relationship with your career, and your relationship with your friends.

577
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: And we came together and we wrote all the super

578
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: vulnerable essays about those different things in our lives. So

579
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, I was married when I was twenty and

580
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: I talked about being a like a twenty year old

581
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: bride where my dad was like, here we go a pumpkin,

582
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure he meant like, you don't have

583
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: to do this. Do you want me to get you

584
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: out of here right now? Like as I didn't know

585
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: you're married before. It's like my best kept secret. I

586
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: have not talked about it. This is what you're supposed

587
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: to do. Like when Jessica Simpson was like, I had

588
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: an emotional fair Johnny Knoxville in her book, you keep

589
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: like when you're a real celebrity, you keep all your deepest,

590
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: darkest secrets for the print. Um so, yeah, I was married.

591
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah I was married wise twenty Um

592
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: I was married for eleven months to this guy from

593
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: New York who I think is in the FBI. Now

594
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: it's all in the book. It's like too much of

595
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: a starre to even share. But um, so we talked

596
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: about that and like vulnerable things like um, oh, when

597
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: I had my neck done like two years ago, talk

598
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: about right now. Yeah, when I had a thirty five

599
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: year old necklift because you had had a waddle and

600
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: it bothered me. Um, because I'm that vain and stupid. Um.

601
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: But when you talk about losing people. We talk about um,

602
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: you know the Becca has like dated a sex addict,

603
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: so we talked about I mean, there's just like a

604
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of those. Do you have stories from your your

605
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: co host, your lady getting co host Becca Tobin and

606
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Jack Van Jack vanneck Um And then people might be wondering, okay,

607
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: like we like Kelty, we know her from E T

608
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: But why why are the almost famous podcast? Why is

609
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: she here? Well? You, I don't know a lot of

610
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: you don't know. Tell them why why you are appropriate

611
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: fit for this podcast? Okay? So you know all you

612
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: bitches and men's when you are like, you know what

613
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to go on The

614
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor that looks like fun. I am the person that

615
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: will tell you do not can do that. You guys

616
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: have both had luck somewhat of luck. Well now it

617
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: all turned out okay. But so I was an unemployed

618
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: something twenty something without a television. By the way, I

619
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: loved US Weekly like and I would see all these

620
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: people come out and I was like, this is the

621
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: show for me. I'm gonna be in Trista Sutter like

622
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I got this. So I went on and I lasted

623
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. It was the most traumatic experience of

624
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: my life. Um it was Emily Maynard season and I

625
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: was in a limo with Emily Maynard. Oh you were okay.

626
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: You were on brad wall Mac season while Emily was

627
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: there Okay season two. His second time in the limo

628
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: was like Emily Maynard and Michelle Money and me, that's

629
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: an intimidating bunch. I remember looking at them and being like,

630
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: I have no boobs and I've just realized this for

631
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: the first time in my life, and like, there's no

632
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: faking way this guy is gonna want a girl with

633
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: no boobs. And I walked out and I remember walking

634
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: up to him and I was like, oh, like, you

635
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: know they make you wear so much makeup? You remember

636
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: been like yeah, And I was like this guy is like, oh,

637
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: so much makeup and I was like gross. Anyway, I

638
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: did an amazing high kick out of the limo, which

639
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I get enough credit for, and then

640
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I got kicked off and it was so dramatic, to

641
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: the point that Caitlin Bristol, Caitlin Bristol and I grew

642
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: up together, so their mom's Leslie her mom and my

643
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: mom Sheila were like best friends. They all worked at

644
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: the Stance studio together, Like I was in every Kid

645
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: Fashion show with Caitlyn and her sister. Like we anyway,

646
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: So Caitlin like three years later, writes me this email

647
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and she's like, hey, I'm thinking about going on the Batch.

648
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: So I'm living then over right now. And I wrote

649
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: her this impassioned plate. I was like, Caitlin, this is

650
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: something that they can never take from you forever. No

651
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: matter what you do. You're going to be that girl

652
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: who went on the Bachelor. Was like it was the

653
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: worst experience of my life. They was like it was

654
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: so embarrassing, like, oh my god, do not go. And

655
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: then like I never hear from her, and then all

656
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's like the Bachelorette. I'm like, oh

657
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 1: my god. And now we always laugh about it because

658
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you imagine, like you built this whole

659
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: career and she's like all the stuff she's doing, and

660
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I told you to just stay being

661
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: a waitress in Vancouver, right advice? Don't use my advice.

662
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: So that's hilarious. Kelsey. My last question for you, because

663
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta move on. To the lead leading

664
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: lady of Labor of Love. Um oh, I loved her. Yeah,

665
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: she's so pretty. How did you get from being the

666
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: girl that wasn't elimited night one to like a host

667
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: on et insanely popular podcast. Just you just kind of

668
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: like pretended like it never happened, right, and you just

669
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: built this amazing career. No. I mean, the thing is

670
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: that when you get kicked off so fast, it's like

671
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: you don't have any of the notoriety. And when I start,

672
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: when I was on there was no like Instagram, like,

673
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it is now where like reality Steve

674
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: is uncovering the spoilers, Like, it didn't work like that.

675
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: So I kind of went off. And then I was

676
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: actually a professional dancer at the time, and I was

677
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: still dancing and kept kept doing that career, and I

678
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: had this blog and it had become kind of popular,

679
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: and I've been creating all these YouTube videos. And then

680
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: I was at a lunch and this girl CBS is like,

681
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: do you want to make some digital videos for CBS?

682
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, what's that. Like I've never

683
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: went to a real job interview before in my life,

684
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: and like showed up in like my Van Halen T

685
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: shirt and they were like, oh, that's an interesting choice. Um.

686
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: And then I started making the videos and they did

687
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: really well. And then I just spent ten years like

688
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: moving up the ladder um to do TV. So, I mean,

689
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: there's a million ways that you can get into it.

690
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of people don't have that work ethic,

691
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: like to do what you guys are doing. Like it's like, yeah,

692
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: it's so fun and it's so great, but it's also

693
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: job and that's not always fun, you know. I just

694
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: looked up, by the way, I just looked up on

695
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Google your kick no no, no, you're a Bachelor or

696
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: your Bachelor picture. Uh. It's it's hard to find because

697
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: it's under the name Keilty Bush. Oh yeah, that's my

698
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: maiden name. But it's there and and it's a good one.

699
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: We're going to post it to the Bachelor to our

700
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: Facebook group totally. First of all, the ombre hair, that

701
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: just shows you how long ago it was. Oh my goodness,

702
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: it's really fantastic. Well hey, Kelty Knight, Uh, thank you

703
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: for coming on once again. Her new book Act Like

704
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: a Lady is available now. Uh, Kelty, where can people

705
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: find it before we let you go. Yeah, everywhere books

706
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: are sold so like Amazon, Barnes and Noble books a million. Um,

707
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: We're asking people to support indie booksellers right now. And

708
00:38:50,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: that's it awesome, Hey, Kelty Knight, thanks a lot, Thanks guys. Bye.

709
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: There's obviously, as we mentioned, a lot going on in

710
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation right now, and and a lot of it

711
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: rightfully so has been kind of surrounding the topic of

712
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: educating everybody on UM the just in a sense systematic

713
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: not even a sense, the truth that systematic racism has

714
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: existed UM the United States UM since the beginning and

715
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: and again, as we mentioned the beginning of the podcast,

716
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: if that makes you uneasy to hear, I just uh

717
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: you know what I just asked you take a step

718
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: back and uh spend some time educating yourself. Now. Nobody

719
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: is saying that, uh, that we need to dismiss people.

720
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: Nobody is saying that there is not a brighter future ahead.

721
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: Nobody is saying that we just stopped here. But the

722
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: topics surrounding everything right now is, hey, we need to

723
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: start listening, we need to stand up UM. And and and

724
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: the protests are about not only the fact that black

725
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: lives matter, but also against police brutality and and recently, UH,

726
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: we've seen police officers join in on these marches, uh

727
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: in these protests because UH, I don't want to say

728
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: a majority, I don't know the numbers, but a lot

729
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: of police officers who and we have people that are

730
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: listening right now that have familing members of the police officers.

731
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: They're good people who want to do a good thing

732
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: in this world and who are here for the for

733
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: if in Batchelor terms, the right reasons. UM. But there

734
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: is select few police officers out there, and maybe there's

735
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: more than anybody's ever known that that need to be

736
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: found out, that need to be removed from their jobs

737
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: and and some of which need to be UM charges

738
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: need to be pressed because they have continue to bring

739
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: down and focus on the black community for too long.

740
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: And and in relation to the story that and in

741
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: the video that we've seen this week with George Floyd's death,

742
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: there's been too many people that have had their knees

743
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: literally on the next of of black humans for too long,

744
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: and it's time to stand up. And some of the

745
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: people have been leading us through this are Rachel Lindsay

746
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: from Bachelor Nation. Rachel Lindsay has been very outspoken, UH,

747
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: and we're learning a ton from her right now. Uh.

748
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: She has updated her picture to Ahmad are Berry who

749
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: was shot UM just a few weeks ago. And and

750
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: she's also been UM starting a podcast called Higher Learning.

751
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: She's doing that with Van Leathan, UH to educate us

752
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: all on topics really pressing that are pressing uh the

753
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: country right now. So that right now they're obviously focusing

754
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: on the things that are prevalent and the and the

755
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: protests and the riots and the unfair death of really

756
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: great people. But this podcast will continue and and they

757
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: will just continue to keep us updated and educated. In

758
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: addition to that, Mike Johnson has posted a photo UH

759
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: that gained a lot of attention and that people are

760
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: on to Ashley. Uh. Mike posted this photo and added

761
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: a lengthy caption that explained UM a lot of kind

762
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: of his his upbringing and what he just wanted to

763
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: communicate to all of us on where he came from,

764
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: what his dreams are, and who he is as a man.

765
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Surerid it? I think we should. It's long, UM, but

766
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: actually take it away. Okay, He said, I didn't always

767
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: believe in myself or my voice growing up, I always

768
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: thought the idea of accomplishing a big dream, let alone

769
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: surpassing one, was just something that could be talked about

770
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: but never actually realized. A lot of things took place

771
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: in my life that reinforced that for me, and for

772
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: a long time, I never felt truly seen. That's why

773
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: representation matters, and that's why my work at b b

774
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: B S America is so important. It's for nearly a decade,

775
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: he says, um, I've been working as a big through

776
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: their incredible organization, which means that I've had the opportunity

777
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: to show up for a little child waiting to believe

778
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: in his voice. Many of the children are on the

779
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: wait list for younger versions of myself. Black kids are

780
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: watching the news, hearing different points of view and not

781
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: understanding where they fit in. It really shouldn't be that

782
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: hard for a kid to see their potential or no

783
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: their safety. Through this mentorship of young people, we can

784
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: add to the work being done to heal our society.

785
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: This is not an ad nor is it a solution

786
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: the only solution. This is just a calling from my

787
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: heart to yours to consider becoming a big in your

788
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: hometown to help advance the conversation with the next generation

789
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: of young people who will do better in this world

790
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: because they have been seen. Yeah. So it's it's things

791
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: like this that are UM they're helping educates not as

792
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: we've talked about, it is not the job of UM

793
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: the black community to educate us. We have to take

794
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: responsibility for that. But it's resources like the one Mike

795
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: shared and involving UH, everybody involving themselves and those in

796
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: those organizations and those missions and those causes that will

797
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: help us progress forward. I also want to add one

798
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: little thing. UM, if you guys saw my Instagram yesterday,

799
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: my friend had a really great idea on NBA two K,

800
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: which is one of his favorite games. They had this

801
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: cool thing with COVID nineteen where you can do an

802
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: in game donation, and he was hoping that we could

803
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: get the attention of somebody at NBA two K to

804
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: do the same thing, but for the organization's supporting UM

805
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: this kind of change that we need in the world.

806
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: So he was thinking about having the NBA players in

807
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: the digital game be wearing certain h jerseys that advocate

808
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: advocate for change, and to have the like basically to

809
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: have a five dollar donation or so on um, and

810
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: then you can have your entire digital team be wearing

811
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: these jerseys and then the money would go to these organizations.

812
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: So if you guys like this idea, or you know

813
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: somebody in the two K, the NBA two K community

814
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: who works for them, has ties or clout to the game,

815
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: just go to my recent Instagram post posting the comments

816
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: and then I'll try to pass it on to who

817
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: I can. Thanks ash. Uh. Hannah Brown has, as we mentioned,

818
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: came out and apologized for using the N word in

819
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: a rap song a few weeks ago. The UH coming

820
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: from a direct quote from Hannah during an apology. She

821
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: is completely focused on educating herself, even hiring an educator

822
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: to help. She says, and this is Hannah's words, help

823
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: me understand the things that I've never even have been taught,

824
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: learned or been a part of my education before. Later

825
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: Uh in the apology, UH, Hannah says this to all

826
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: the fans and listeners she said. She concluded her video

827
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: with this. She says, if you want to support me, UH,

828
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: do not defend me. What I did. What I said

829
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: was indefensible. She later says, I don't need anybody to

830
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: defend me for what I did, because what I said

831
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: what I did was wrong. But I'm hoping that what

832
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I did was But what I'm hoping that what I

833
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: did was wrong. But what I didn't know even before

834
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: is the worst part of it, and it's the ignorance.

835
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm no longer ignorant, and I'm no longer going to

836
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: be a part of the problem. Brown vowed, I will

837
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: be a part of the solution. And if you see that,

838
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. I'm

839
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: sorry to everyone I heard and disappointed. I promised to

840
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: continue to do better. I promise. That's from Hannah Brown

841
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: in her apology this week, she took to Instagram live

842
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: and it was about twenty minutes long. Uh, And it's

843
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: really I think what fans, what non fans, people who

844
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: were angry at Hannah, what they were kind of crying

845
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: for for a while was Hannah, we need to hear

846
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: from you. And she just took a while. But it

847
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: sounds like during that time she was educating herself on

848
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: on why and and and what and how that what

849
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: she said was wrong. Kind of that the history and

850
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: and the heaviness to using the inn word in any circumstance.

851
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: We are certainly not the people to accept the apology

852
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: from Hannah, but we definitely respect her being on this

853
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: learning mission and to encourage others to get on the

854
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: train with her as well. Um, I really do feel

855
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: like she's trying to better herself. Yeah, I think so too,

856
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: and and that's the hope. And I don't think and

857
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: we never condoned her being canceled. I think what everybody

858
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: was just waiting for was a very genuine apology, and

859
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: I think we got it definitely. Yeah, we just wouldn't

860
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: know where she stood. If she didn't want to apologize,

861
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: then that would teach us something else. We're just kind

862
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: of waiting to hear from Hannah, and she finally did well.

863
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: In more Bachelor Nation news, Um, bachel Nation has been

864
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: sitting their support to Colton and Cassie after they announced

865
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: their split. Now, I didn't see this coming. I didn't

866
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: interview last week, and I wrongfully said that I don't

867
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: think Cassie and Colton were not together, because Colton was

868
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: posting pictures and seeming very happy, and I was like,

869
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: I just don't. I mean, I've been in that situation.

870
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: It's heavy, it's hard, it's confusing, But we did find

871
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: out that Colton and Cassie have broken up. They seem

872
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: like they've done it on mutually good terms. What do

873
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, ash m hmm. There's not much, but I

874
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: know that cat there doesn't not There's not much more

875
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: to elaborate on, but Cassie is really annoyed. There's a

876
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: lot of stories going around that this is a long

877
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: time coming and that she tried to break up with

878
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: him multiple times before this one actually stuck, and she

879
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: is very much going after those publications saying that that

880
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: is not the case at all. Um. She she and

881
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Colton Um they split at some point after he left

882
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: her family's house once he recovered from COVID, and I

883
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: started to get a little bit suspicious when it was

884
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: her birthday and his birthday message didn't sound like one

885
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: to a girlfriend. And then when he left and went

886
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: to he go to Colorado, Colorado. When he went to

887
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Colorado without her, I was like, you know, they're not

888
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: engaged or not married. It's not that weird. But then

889
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: I felt like as time went on and there was

890
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: less and less mentions of each other, I started to

891
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: become a little I started speculating a bit, but you know,

892
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: I thought that possibly they're going through a rough patch,

893
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: and I am sad to hear the end of them.

894
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: I really think they were so adorable, and to think

895
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: about how hard, cold and fought for her and all

896
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: the wonderful things that he says about her in the book,

897
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: and their relationship just seems so sweet whenever I was

898
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: around it. So I'm pretty sad about it. Yeah, it's tough,

899
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: but we're thinking of them. It's never for fun Um

900
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: to go through a public breakup. We wish them both

901
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: the best. Another Bachelor news, Lauren and Ari got pregnant

902
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: this month and then she suffered a miscarriage. It's very sad.

903
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: They have a half an hour video up on their

904
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: YouTube explaining the entire past couple of weeks where she

905
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: had a missed miscarriage, which means that the embryo didn't

906
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: quite miscarry, and there's some like at eight weeks, the

907
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: embryo was only at five weeks. They're going to do

908
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: a far better job. They do a far better job

909
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: explaining the actual kind of miscarriage that she had, So

910
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: go check that out on YouTube. We're really sorry and

911
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: we're thinking about them. But um, in brighter news, we

912
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: we did have a bachelor birth this week. Bachelor in

913
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: Paradise alum Jenna Cooper welcomed her first child. Her name

914
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: is Pressley Bell and she is a beautiful baby. She

915
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: has a full head of brown hair and she shares

916
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: the child with her new boyfriend, whom she's been with

917
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: for I think about a year now. And if you

918
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: go on to Jena's social media, you'll see that she

919
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of gave us a headline of the moment she

920
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: went into labor, to her getting to the hospital, and

921
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: then Pressley's birth. This is huge bachelor news. Victoria Fuller

922
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: and Crystals are apparently exclusively dating. Ben and I both

923
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: have told you guys that we haven't really talked to

924
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Chris about this. Um, so we are not the ones

925
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: that are anonymously saying that they are exclusively dating to

926
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: US magazine. But this source, unnamed says that they are exclusive,

927
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: and damned does it seem like Victoria hospital a lot

928
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: of time on the farm. She looks to have been

929
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: in Iowa for at least six weeks now. She is

930
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: still quarantining over there and took a little drive up

931
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: to see Kelsey from her season. So it seems like

932
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: we have a new Bachelor couple to add to the

933
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: list of happy couples we've got going on out there.

934
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: Madison prue it will not be in a happy couple

935
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: anytime soon. She says that after the dating experience she

936
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: had on The Bachelor, she's just gonna lay low for

937
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: a while. And she says, quote, after I go through

938
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: something big in life, like a break up, a transitional move,

939
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: a change, or anything like that, I really try to

940
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: take the time to make sure my heart is in

941
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: the best place and then my heart, mind, and body

942
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: are all healthy. She said that she's been taking time

943
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: to really get back to the best version of herself

944
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: and make sure that she's in a great place. And

945
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: right now she hasn't even considered going on dates or

946
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: anything like that, and anybody who's asked about, you know,

947
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: her going on dates, she's just been saying, I'm focusing

948
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: on myself right now. She further denies there being any

949
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: sort of serious rotation with a Connor. Last week on

950
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: My Husband's podcast, Dean Unglert said he one time slid

951
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: into Andy Dorfman's d MS, he saw a picture of

952
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: her and bff Amanda standing on Instagram and he was like, Oh,

953
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: that girl's cute. Then he clicked on the picture and

954
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, that's any door from the past bachelor. Right.

955
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: Dean doesn't exactly remember whether or not he slid into

956
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: the d M or whether he just had Amanda tried

957
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: to put in a good word for him, but the

958
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: bottom line is he thought Andy Dorfman was cute, but

959
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: now it's very happy in a year long relationship with Caitlin.

960
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: Now we got uh some crossing of the reality TV

961
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: lines and fiance start. Fernanda Flores is now dating a bachelor,

962
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Alam McClay Harbor. They even aired a date last week

963
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: on TV via zoom um it's the ninety day Fiance

964
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: self Quarantined. Addition, it was on Monday's episode where the

965
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: twenty two year old had a date with Clai a Um.

966
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: They apparently have gone out on a date that was

967
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: that happened before quarantine. She said she wasn't in the

968
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: best place back then. She was just recently just you know,

969
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: finalized her divorce. But now she's getting to a better

970
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: place and I guess she's zooming on TV with Clay

971
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: and finally our last piece of Bachelor news, and it's

972
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: an important one. Guys. Bachelor producers have a surprising plan

973
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: for how the Bachelor franchise will film in quarantine. I

974
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: don't really know if it's surprising, because we did speculate

975
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: about it, uh a couple of months ago, but it

976
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: looks like they're going to decide on a resort location

977
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: to film the entire season at very soon. They go

978
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: on to say that it's not so much the guys

979
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: self quarantining that's gonna be the big problem here when

980
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: it comes to the covid era, but it's going to

981
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: be having so much staff, so much production in such

982
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: close quarters, because they're even talking about like the control

983
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: room and normally have like at least ten people in

984
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: something the size of a trailer. Ten people, and that

985
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: is going to be really hard to create distance in.

986
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: So that is what they're trying to figure out now.

987
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: But when we do figure out what resort or what

988
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: state they'll be filming in, of course we will let

989
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: you know. Here. We're just excited and as long as

990
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: far as the timeline goes, it looks as if they

991
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: still have their goal. On a September air all right,

992
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: well those are your Bachelor headlines. After the break, we're

993
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: going to have somebody who is a Bachelor alum that

994
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: you may know that may have no idea was on

995
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: the show before. Alright, guys, so now we have the

996
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: leading lady of Labor of Love. It is on Thursdays

997
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock eight Central on Fox, and you, guys,

998
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: don't tell ABC or Mike Flights or anything, but it's

999
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: very similar to the Bachelorette, except in this case the

1000
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: lady is looking for more of a sperm donor than

1001
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: a lover. But it's kind of somewhere in between. So

1002
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Christie Katzman on the line and she's

1003
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna tell me about her new Fox show, Labor of Love. Hey, Christie, Hi, Okay, Christy.

1004
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: We just had Keelty Night on and she was on

1005
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: The Bachelor many years ago, Mountain many years ago, ten

1006
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: years ago, Bradwallmax first season, and you were also on

1007
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: Bradwall Max season. But you were on the first of

1008
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: his two seasons right yes, one point now and you

1009
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: lasted five weeks. Gosh, it's hard to remember the timeline.

1010
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: I was in final six, so wow, it used to

1011
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: be more drastic about the cuts. You know, it went

1012
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: from to fifteen the very first night. Damn, that's wild

1013
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. That is a lot of pressure. Okay,

1014
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: so you made the top six, which which is um

1015
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: especially these days, you make top sis six, you're pretty memorable.

1016
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: But I guess before the social media era, if you

1017
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: made top six, you made Top six, and then you

1018
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: were kind of you truly had your fifteen minutes of fame, right, Yeah,

1019
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think that was the last season really

1020
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: um a where we didn't get to travel around the

1021
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: world and do all these really cool destination dates. But

1022
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: it was like the last season before social media really hit.

1023
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: So I really feel like I was kind of part

1024
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: of old school Bachelor Nation. So you went from Bachelor

1025
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Nation to getting married briefly in two ausand fifteen um,

1026
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: not having any kids, but having an amazing successful career,

1027
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: and then you've decided to go back to reality TV

1028
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: to find is it love or is it sperm? Because

1029
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find I watched the first episode and

1030
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: I still couldn't quite figure out what is the primary

1031
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: goal here? Is it to find a husband or is

1032
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: it to find somebody that you like enough to be

1033
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: the father of your children and to keep in your

1034
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: life forever. Yeah. I mean that's a great question. It's

1035
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: funny because that has come up a lot with people,

1036
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: and at first it surprised me because I felt so

1037
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: clear about what I was doing. But you know, it's

1038
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: a little unconventional, so I understand the confusion. I will

1039
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: say I never went on the show to find a

1040
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: sperm donor, like, way easier ways to do that than

1041
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: go on a reality television show, right. I think for me,

1042
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: I did this because I really wanted it all um.

1043
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, for me, I was already on the path

1044
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: to pursuing motherhood on my own, and that was something

1045
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: that I had really started looking into seriously, you know,

1046
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: probably in the year prior to the show crossing my Path,

1047
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: and I had hesitated with that because if that's what

1048
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I needed to do, I was willing to do it.

1049
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: But I really wanted to have that experience with a partner.

1050
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: So for me, the show kind of just fit my

1051
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: life perfectly, and it seemed like a great opportunity to

1052
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: sort of give that one last push before I moved

1053
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: forward with motherhood on my own. Because you know, you

1054
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: have a group of men who are basically selected for me,

1055
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: that are in the same place as me. So I

1056
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: would say, short and sir, I wanted it all was

1057
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: to fall in love and to fall in love with

1058
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: me on that I could also see starting a family with,

1059
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: So that was my my dream goal in the situation.

1060
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: But that being said, I was really open to other outcomes,

1061
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: and that's where, especially in this season one, we kind

1062
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 1: of have to see how it all plays out, because

1063
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Speaker 1: I was open to co parenting and I was willing

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Speaker 1: to move forward on my own. If that's how things

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of played okay, very interesting. So basically we'll have

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Speaker 1: to watch the entire series and follow your life afterwards

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: to see how this okay exactly How cool was it

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01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: to have Kristin Davis be the co host, who I

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: truly think is the perfect fit for this because in

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01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: a way, you're kind of Charlotte oriented. If you guys

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01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: don't know Charlotte from Sexonicity was always the hopeless romantic

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: who always wanted to be a wife and a mom,

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01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: and not only was that her m O on the show,

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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: but in real life she actually I don't know that

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01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: she ever found like her soul mate but she found

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Speaker 1: her kids who she adopted, so she was able to

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Speaker 1: figure it out in a way. But I just think

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Speaker 1: that it's really cool that she was selected to be

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Speaker 1: the host because I think like both her real life

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01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: and her on screen life, uh kind of relate to

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01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: what you're going through. Yeah, it's so true and it's funny.

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that chris and was going to be

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01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: the host. So I opened the door the first day

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: and it's Charlotte from Sex in the City standing at

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Speaker 1: the door. And I may have looked calm that I

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01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: was definitely not calm inside. I mean, Charlotte was my girl.

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, you know, I was in my twenties

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: when Sex in the City, you know, aired the first time,

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01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: and I was a Charlotte, So I'm already kind of

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01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: freaking out. I think this is the reason my friends

1091
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: are most jealous of me is because I got spent

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01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: a couple of months with Kristen and have Christens like

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: a bff. So I don't blame them, um, but you're

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01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: so right. I mean, her her character really had, you know,

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01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: some of the same struggles, and I feel like Christen's

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01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: really relatable in just how her like that she spent

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01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: her thirties really pursuing acting, obviously having a hit show

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: and being very engrossed in that. Um. And I think

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Speaker 1: this is true for a lot of women, you know,

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01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: you me myself, and I see this in a lot

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01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: of women I know. Assume that the family piece will

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: just fall into place. Um, And so then it becomes

1103
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: when it doesn't and you are running out of top time,

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01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: what do you do? And that's where you have to

1105
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: start having more of an open mind and maybe pursuing

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01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: things unconventionally. Yeah. And we even saw Charlotte's character, you know,

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01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: she adopted on the show. She also then adopted in

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01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: real life. And then um, she went through IVF on

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: Sex in the City with Harry because they're having a

1110
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: hard time conceiving. And you worked with Dr Brian Kaplan

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: at Ova egg Freezing in Chicago, which is ironically where

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01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: Whitney Bishop angel Um. You know the winner quote quote

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: of Chris Souls this season works. And I've known about

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: OVA and I did a whole podcast on it a

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01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So why did you go with

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01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: h OVA? Is they are they really like the creme

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01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Dela creme of egg freezing yes. I mean so OVID self,

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: I think is kind of a special thing. And I

1119
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: had already started to work with them before this show

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: kind of came about in my life, and I think

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01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: what they've done really is they've tried to cater to

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: um women, you know, and in quote unquote single women.

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: So you go in there and it really is about

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: egg freezing, so you're maybe not inundated with all of

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: the other things if you went into a regular fertility clinic, right,

1126
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: and they've also done something really special. I think they

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: really do kind of give you this v I P treatment,

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01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: which I know personally I've experienced the opposite of that.

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01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: You know, when you kind of go in being single

1130
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: h in this situation, you know, it can be a

1131
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: little harsh sometimes. So I feel like Ovid's tried to

1132
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: try to create something that is just about egg freezing

1133
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: um and you know, made that an exciting, luxurious experience

1134
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: versus something that maybe you feel self conscious about. And

1135
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: of course Dr kaplan Um you know, works with that

1136
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: team as well, and of course you know the IVF

1137
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: would happen with Dr kaplin Um. But Dr keplan is amazing,

1138
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, I actually know so many women that have

1139
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: babies now because of Dr Kaplin. So I had already

1140
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: done my research, and I feel like O was something special.

1141
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: It's relatively new and and you know, having the opportunity

1142
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: to work with Dr Kaplin, I already knew I wanted

1143
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: to work with him. So this is like a dream

1144
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: combination happening here. That's so cool. In the first episode,

1145
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: the guys like they meet you and then they're ushered

1146
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: off to go get samples up their sperm. They are

1147
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: given some materials and they're like a vehicle sort of

1148
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: like it kind of looks like a big porta potty thing,

1149
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: but the guys go in there to get their samples,

1150
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: And like, how awkward did you feel during that moment

1151
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: and being like one of the opening scenes of the show,

1152
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: and like the guy's first activity, were you like poor guys?

1153
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: Or were at the same time being like, yeah, we

1154
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: are getting down to business. I need both. But first

1155
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: of all, can we just say that no one else

1156
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: is allowed to claim most awkward date in the world,

1157
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: because that most awkward first date, I think awkard group

1158
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: date most say. I mean, so it was both really

1159
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: and I think people don't realize this, but I actually

1160
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: didn't know that was going to happen so um, and

1161
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Kristen did either. So we're standing there

1162
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: and kind of realizing what's going to happen. And I

1163
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: was definitely panicking inside because of exactly what you said.

1164
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: I had literally just met these guys maybe twenty minutes before.

1165
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: We had a really big weather delay that morning with filming,

1166
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: so I really did only have about fifteen twenty minutes

1167
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: to actually social life with them before we went out

1168
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: to do the whole like fertility test, right, So I

1169
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: thought for sure half the guys would run away um,

1170
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: and I was really pleasantly surprised when they didn't. I

1171
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: knew that I had to look calm and stay strong

1172
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: or they probably would start freaking out. Um. But what's

1173
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: that go over the initial shock? Honestly, I thought, well,

1174
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: why shouldn't they have to go through this? And I

1175
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: think a big fear that I had going into this

1176
01:05:54,840 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: was could they find men who truly wanted this to um?

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01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: Because obviously a woman's timeline is a little bit different, right.

1178
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: So I feel like this was a really good way

1179
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: to really see who was there for the right reasons,

1180
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: Because if you weren't why would you do it? Our

1181
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: parents are going to watch this, so you let me

1182
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: into the perfect direction to ask this. A lot of

1183
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: people are talking a lot about age when it comes

1184
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: to Claire's season. She's going to be thirty nine and

1185
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: a half when it starts filming. Um. A lot of

1186
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: the guys ages that were announced prior in March, they

1187
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: were young. A lot of people worried that they wouldn't

1188
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: be ready for the type of lifestyle that Claire was

1189
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: ready for. What advice would you give to her? Uh,

1190
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: weeding out the men when she does finally meet them. Yeah, well,

1191
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: she's not allowed to do the fertility testing. I already

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: claimed that one. So I mean, I think you see

1193
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: this as the show goes on. Um, you know, the

1194
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: episodes kind of roll out with labor of love. But

1195
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I'm really direct in this show.

1196
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have commented on that, And

1197
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: the truth is, it's because That's where I'm at in life.

1198
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: This is already the way that I've been having to

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: date the last couple of years. Um, and at this

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: point in life, like I literally don't have time to waste.

1201
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: But I've also just gotten to the point in life

1202
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: where I have no interest in wasting anyone's time, and

1203
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to waste my time. So I

1204
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: think you just learned to be more direct. So I'm

1205
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: sure Claire is already on this, but that would be

1206
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: my advice to her. Be very clear about what you're

1207
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: looking for, and don't be afraid to ask the hard

1208
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: questions sooner rather than later. Knowing Claire, I don't think

1209
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: she's going to have a problem with any of that.

1210
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't think she's a problem. Do you have you

1211
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: ever met her or do you watch the show Hardcore? Yeah,

1212
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: I've watched the show. Yeah, so I do remember her

1213
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: from her season. And then I saw I saw, you know,

1214
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: when they did the big announcement, and you know, I

1215
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: of course had already filmed this show, so I knew

1216
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: that it was um coming out sometime. I just didn't

1217
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: know when then, And I remember thinking, this is a

1218
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: big moment, you know, to have a bachelorette who is

1219
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: maybe a little older than the typical bachelorette. And then,

1220
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, knowing that my show is coming out, that

1221
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: really speaks to me what is happening in modern society

1222
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: right now? There are so many women, and honestly, I

1223
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: think what you'll learn on Labor of Love there's actually

1224
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 1: quite a few men in this position too, so I

1225
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: think it's really refreshing to actually see this talk about

1226
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: uh huh where they spent so long of their twenties

1227
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: and thirties developing a career. Right and then yeah, yeah,

1228
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: all right, well, Christie, Um, we're wishing you all the

1229
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: luck in the world. We know that you've already taped

1230
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: a show, but whatever you're going through in your romantic

1231
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: and or fertility life right now, we hope it's going

1232
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: very well. And you guys, if you are fans of

1233
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise, are gonna love Labor of Love. Upon

1234
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: and ended. It's Fox nine o'clock on Thursdays. It's gonna

1235
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: hold you over till Claire season, I promise you. By Christie.

1236
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: Almost in this podcast is one that actually I do

1237
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: care a lot about, and I know that this is

1238
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: a time where both of us, all of us are

1239
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: a little confused. We're also learning a ton. We've talked

1240
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: about it throughout the podcast today. When I say that

1241
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: if you are uncomfortable with the idea that black lives matter,

1242
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: that we don't need you here, I mean that, but

1243
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: we want you here. We want to do this together,

1244
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: We want to learn together. The people who have listened

1245
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: to this podcast, uh, for the most part, have been

1246
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: a great community to us, and we want to continue

1247
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: to bring you up to date on Bachelor News and

1248
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of this world and the people

1249
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: that are participating in it. But we also never want

1250
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: to neglect the pressing, very difficult, very important, extremely important

1251
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: issues that are in this world right now, and also

1252
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: have a respect and a love for each human within

1253
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: that knowing that ultimately, because we all you are listening

1254
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: and we are talking, we all have a responsibility at

1255
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: some level to respond and to have an opinion, and

1256
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: within this right now, the opinion should be shouted from

1257
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: the rooftop that black lives do matter. They matter so much,

1258
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: but so to yours. So get out there, no matter

1259
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: what color you are, love on others well, um, and

1260
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: continue listening to this podcast, we hope, because Ashley and

1261
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: I have a really good time doing it, even though

1262
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: the last few months have been hard. But I've I've

1263
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: I've really actually I've came to this conclusion. I am

1264
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: who I am. I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna listen. I'm

1265
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna try my best to respond and to hear the

1266
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: critiques and get better as a host and to get

1267
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: better as a co host to you. But I am

1268
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: who I am, and I can't be ashamed of that,

1269
01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: and I can't run from that, and I can't hide

1270
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: it because when I do, I'm not my best self

1271
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Speaker 1: and I'm not doing anybody justice. You've been your best today,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure as well. Hey, I love your kid,

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Speaker 1: uh and and we're with all the people out there

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Speaker 1: right now protesting. UM. And I wish I could be

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Speaker 1: better too. I wish that I could express myself more

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Speaker 1: articulate without having to express it through my tears. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, that is something I will try to

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Speaker 1: work on, and I try to work on all the time. UM.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you guys, we love you. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. And I've been Ashley. Hey, I've been Ben.

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