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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show starts right now, and we've got a ton

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Speaker 2: of news to get to with you today. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get into this polling. I think we're going to

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Speaker 2: start off with that just a moment here of Trump.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you're going to be very happy to

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Speaker 2: hear this way ahead of Biden, way ahead of Biden

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Speaker 2: in a recent ABC Washington Post poll. Clay is going

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Speaker 2: to break down some of those additional numbers and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about the dynamics that are at play. As you know,

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Speaker 2: Title forty two is set to end this week, which

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Speaker 2: means the border will be even more wide open starting

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. Our friend Stephen Miller, who was a senior

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Speaker 2: advisor to Trump and also really the architect of Trump

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Speaker 2: immigration policy and border enforcement. Stephen will be with us

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Speaker 2: in the third hour of the program today, so you

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Speaker 2: want to stick around for that. For sure. We will

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Speaker 2: discuss the latest on the Jordan Nearly incident in New

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Speaker 2: York City. No charges yet against that marine, will there

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Speaker 2: be any We will analyze that for you, but there

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Speaker 2: were definitely protests over the weekend where people try to

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Speaker 2: shut down the subways for a while, actually jump down

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Speaker 2: where the trains go through, and could have stepped on

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Speaker 2: a third rail and electrocuted themselves. Very very very stupid,

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Speaker 2: very selfish behavior from leftist activists who don't really care

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Speaker 2: about protecting lives in general, but really want a virtue signal.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that. Also, the shooting in Alan, Texas. The

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Speaker 2: media is describing, as I speak to you now, at

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Speaker 2: least some outlets are describing this mass murderer as a

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Speaker 2: white supremacist and is a surprising bit of analysis to

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Speaker 2: many people because the individual who committed the shooting is

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Speaker 2: a Hispanic male whose parents are immigrants and speak very

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Speaker 2: little English. But we are told that this individual is

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Speaker 2: a white supremacist. Right. We will get into some of

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Speaker 2: that later on this hour, But first, Clay, really interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, when we were together in the Franklin area

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Speaker 2: big big fan, really love the Nashville area, Nashville itself

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Speaker 2: and the surrounding area. People are coming up me. They

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Speaker 2: kept asking me, they said, you know, do you think

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Speaker 2: Trump can do it, And I said, look, you can.

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Speaker 2: No one can say Trump. You could never count Trump

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Speaker 2: out because look at the phenomenon that we've already seen, right,

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Speaker 2: you just you never know what Trump's gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to pull off. I did not think anybody would wake

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Speaker 2: up on this Monday, May eighth and find themselves seeing

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Speaker 2: a ABC Washington Post poll that has Trump up seven

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Speaker 2: on Biden. Now we know there are problems with polls,

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Speaker 2: and we know it's not that exact, but something it

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Speaker 2: seems here might have changed some element of perception. What

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Speaker 2: do you make of the numbers and what do you

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Speaker 2: make of the shift and sentiment?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start with I understand everybody out there

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Speaker 1: who are like, ah, there's no such thing as an

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Speaker 1: honest poll, all these things. Okay, let's put that off

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Speaker 1: to the side. Let's just analyze the data that they

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Speaker 1: are presenting in front of us. What it's worth noting

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post never had during the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 1: a poll where Donald Trump was up on Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: never occurred in their polling, and they certainly never had

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Speaker 1: one where Trump was up six or seven depending on

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Speaker 1: the audience in play, which is a massive lead in

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Speaker 1: any kind of election for president right now for either

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Speaker 1: party to think that anybody could win by six or

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Speaker 1: seven points. And what is interesting to me a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. Buck. First of all, Joe Biden is at

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Speaker 1: thirty six percent overall job approval. That is the worst

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Speaker 1: presidential tenure. That is eighteen months out from the end

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Speaker 1: of the first term since Harry Truman, since the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post began doing these polls, so no one has ever

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Speaker 1: scored lower than Joe Biden is scoring right now. I

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Speaker 1: also understand a lot of you out there like, who

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Speaker 1: in the world are the thirty six percent who think

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's doing a good job? Fair question to be asked,

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Speaker 1: for sure, But I think what's going on here, and

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Speaker 1: now that's running almost fifty to fifty Buck, do you

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Speaker 1: twenty four. We always talk about how usually the election

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Speaker 1: election is a referendum on whether Joe Biden has the

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Speaker 1: mental faculties to be able to be president of the

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Speaker 1: Sixty three percent of the people the Washington Post polled

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not in good enough health. Now, we

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Speaker 1: sometimes talk about age as a proxy for health and

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Speaker 1: mental cognition, but I would just point out, Buck, these

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Speaker 1: you ever pay attention to this. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Warren Buffett and his in capitalism, and they just

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Speaker 1: Hello Omaha. In Omaha, they just had what they call

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Speaker 1: basically the capital, you know, the capital the circus, right,

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Speaker 1: about Berkshire Hathaway. And I would point out Buck, Warren

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Speaker 1: Buffett is ninety two and his top assistant, Charlie Munger

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Speaker 1: is ninety nine. Both men captivated that audience in Omaha

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Speaker 1: for hours with their wisdom with their ability to analyze

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Speaker 1: So it's not just age, because many people out there

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Speaker 1: much better in control of their faculties. It's that the

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Speaker 1: American public book, I really think, has decided that Joe

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Speaker 2: There's a physical reality to cognition and the ability of

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Speaker 2: what it comes to running. I mean, if you if

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Speaker 2: you said, well, there's a there's a seventy year old

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's just their bodies be able to. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: But the point is you would generally expect most seventy

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Speaker 2: But does that mean there aren't seven year olds who can.

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Speaker 2: very unimpressive individual, Joe Biden. He was an unimpressive candidate

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Speaker 2: it shows a lack of enthusiasm among Democrats, and you

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Speaker 2: fall on line. The issue, though, is the independence, the

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Speaker 2: it's not just that Biden's not up for this, hasn't

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Speaker 2: there's nothing you're looking at and saying, yeah, there's whole

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Speaker 2: with that reality, I think it's likely it may continue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Buck, This is why I come back to again

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Speaker 1: and again. If eighty one million people voted for Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: let's say eighty one million people did. Just presume that

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Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I think getting a lot of those

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Speaker 1: there's lots of people listening to us right now who

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Speaker 1: But I think where this really plays out, Buck is,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: and he's going to make everything awful. Well didn't Biden

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Speaker 1: make everything awful? And Buck, what I come back to

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Speaker 1: in this same Washington Post poll, which could I think

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Speaker 1: and Biden is plummeting also in his trustworthiness. As more

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Speaker 1: for Joe Biden based on what he's done? I think

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Speaker 1: he's not. Trump doesn't have the same appeal in twenty

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Speaker 1: so voting will be less significant in terms of people

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Speaker 2: People were voting at some level for the perception that

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Speaker 2: the media had created of Joe Biden. I'm talking about independence. Now,

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Speaker 2: Democrats vote Democrats. That's just you know, they do what

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Speaker 2: surprising there, Okay, But we're looking into dependent voters and

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Speaker 2: what has happened with them. They were promised a steady,

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Speaker 2: just a front for far left wing activist agendas. I

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Speaker 2: mean that the Biden White House has in no meaningful

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Speaker 2: whether you're talking about you know, abortion issues, trans issues,

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Speaker 2: Were speaking of Stephen Miller, who was a senior advisor

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Speaker 2: about you know, start fixing things in about eighteen months

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Speaker 2: or so. What do you think how could this turn around,

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Speaker 2: how do you actually secure the border and stop the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that is obviously the most important question. So first,

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Speaker 3: and you can read about it at af legal dot org.

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Speaker 3: We're represented the Cate of Texas in a twenty state

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Speaker 3: You can detain them, and you can deport them, you

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Speaker 3: can send them to Mexico, you can send them to

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Speaker 3: a safe third country, but you cannot release any illegal

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Speaker 3: immigrant into this country. We're giving you tillions of dollars

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Speaker 3: to have. That is the ground for Congress to wage

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Speaker 3: this battle on and again. If they do that, if

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Speaker 3: the House includes that in the bill, it will be

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Speaker 3: the shutdown sight of all shutdown fights doing anything we've

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Speaker 3: lived through in our entire lives. And the last step

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Speaker 3: laid out exactly what needs to happen, and he's called

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Speaker 3: it the largest domestic deportation operation in history. So you

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Speaker 3: existed in twenty twenty. That's actually the easy part. The

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Speaker 3: That's actually the easy part. The hard part is then

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Speaker 3: going and finding the millions and millions and millions of

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Speaker 3: saying oh bottom, let them in. You're here for life.

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Speaker 3: Going and finding them and removing them is going to

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Speaker 3: require them using federal resources, But every willing state is

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Speaker 3: going to have to provide police officers and first responders

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Speaker 3: and National guardsmen and every other resource that you are

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Speaker 3: going to need to carry out that removal operation. It

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Speaker 3: will be of a scope and a scale beyond anything

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Speaker 3: that's ever been tried before.

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Speaker 1: Steven Miller, well, really quickly on the way. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw the footage of Mark Zuckerberg kicking

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Speaker 1: people's ass in Brazilian jiu jitsu. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've ever done Brazilian jiu jitsu, But is there anybody

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Speaker 1: if they beat you, like if they put you to sleep,

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Speaker 1: that you'd be like, I could never do Brazilian jiu jitsu?

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Speaker 3: Again, Well, I've never done for Brazilian jiu jitsu. I'm

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Speaker 3: happy to confess on this show that for most of

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Speaker 3: my life I was a massive fan of Steven Sigall movies,

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Speaker 3: Oh You and Buck. Ever were to learn the martial art,

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Speaker 3: it would have been.

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Speaker 1: Iqto We're gonna have some fun. The emails are rolling in,

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Speaker 1: Buck with the worst person to put you to sleep

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Speaker 1: in a Brazilian jiu jitsu fight, and there are some

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Speaker 1: really funny ones.

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Speaker 2: Under Siege is a great movie. Steven Miller knows quality.

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Speaker 2: What he sees is Steven, thanks for being with us man.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Sanity in an Insane World, The Clay Travis and buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Show Welcome back in Now number two Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: there's another shooting, and I think it's important to point

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Speaker 1: out that if we eliminated every mass shooting in America,

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Speaker 1: which I know all of you would join me in saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'd be in favor of that, ninety eight percent of

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Speaker 1: shootings in the United States would still be going on.

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Speaker 1: In other words, we wouldn't really put a dent in

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Speaker 1: but they do grab a large percentage of the overall

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Speaker 1: national headline. We try on this show, unless the mass

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Speaker 1: shooter is a fugitive from justice and police are trying

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Speaker 1: to track them down need help finding them, not to

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Speaker 1: use mass shooter names that often on this program, because

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Speaker 1: the evidence does reflect that one of the primary motives

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Speaker 1: for any mass shooter is infamy attention, the idea of

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Speaker 1: becoming famous based on an infamous act. So that likely,

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Speaker 1: if this shooting was anything like prior mass shootings, was

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Speaker 1: part of the driving force behind this decision that was

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Speaker 1: entered into by this gentleman in Texas, but buck within

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. This guy is Hispanic, as you have mentioned,

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Speaker 1: his parents do not speak English. They have tried to

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Speaker 1: turn him into a white supremacist. Now, those of you

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Speaker 1: who watched the Chappelle Show back in the day may

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Speaker 1: well remember, I believe Clayton Bigsby was the character's name.

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Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle did an hysterical skit where he had a

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Speaker 1: black white supremacist who was blind. The guy had no

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Speaker 1: idea what his racial color was, and so he was

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Speaker 1: a white supremacist even though he was black. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: idea to ridicule the absurdity of believing that you are

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Speaker 1: superior to someone else because of an immutable characteristic which

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Speaker 1: you yourself do not choose, which is actually the foundation of racism.

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Speaker 1: And you might well point out, Buck that nowadays left

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Speaker 1: wing actually has a lot in common with the old

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Speaker 1: school racist back in the nineteen fifth, the nineteen forties,

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Speaker 1: all of that era. But to attempt to turn this

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Speaker 1: shooting into white supremacy is I think further desperation, because

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Speaker 1: what's happening is all these mass shooters, Buck, in the

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Speaker 1: last several months last year, really it feels like a

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Speaker 1: huge percentage of them are not white guys who support

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And so this idea of oh, the biggest

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Speaker 1: threat to this country, this existential crisis that we face,

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Speaker 1: is white Trump supporters, because they're trying to kill everybody.

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Speaker 1: The data never supported it, but my goodness, all of

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Speaker 1: the shootings that are happening, they don't really seem connected

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, and they certainly don't seem by and

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Speaker 1: large connected to far right wing ideologues. So they're trying

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Speaker 1: to manufacture him. Now, that's what I see coming out

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Speaker 1: of this coverage so far. I think that everyone can.

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Speaker 2: Get a very quick lesson or really because we all

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Speaker 2: know it, but a quick reminder of why the media

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Speaker 2: is so untrustworthy and by people who are discerning and

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Speaker 2: people of wisdom and judgment largely despised. The media is

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Speaker 2: largely despised by people who have any wisdom, and it

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Speaker 2: is because of exactly what you're seeing unfold here. First

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Speaker 2: of all, as you point out a white supremacist based

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Speaker 2: on what exactly, well, he's Hispanic and he has I mean,

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Speaker 2: we won't say he is a very clearly Hispanic name.

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Speaker 2: You look at him, he's a Hispanic guy. There's actually

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Speaker 2: some people who are suggesting that some of his tattoos

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Speaker 2: are affiliated with well known transnational Latin gangs. That's not

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Speaker 2: yet confirmed, but that is an analysis that's out there.

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Speaker 2: But the guy's parents had to have an had to

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Speaker 2: have an FBI interpreter there to speak to, and so

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Speaker 2: clearly they are they are non English speakers, they are immigrants,

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Speaker 2: and they're saying he's a white supremacist based on what

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Speaker 2: someone saw a patch they say on the tactical clothing

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Speaker 2: he was wearing that could be affiliated with or is

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Speaker 2: in some way associated with white supremacists. That is the

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Speaker 2: only thing they are going on as we understand this

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Speaker 2: right now. And Clay, there were headlines. There were headlines

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Speaker 2: referring to the white supremacist mall shooter in allent Texas.

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Speaker 2: So a Hispanic guy whose parents don't speak English shoots

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Speaker 2: a bunch of people, murders them. In the New York

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Speaker 2: Times and others are telling you this is an act

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Speaker 2: of white supremacy. Okay, you start with that, and you

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Speaker 2: see at some level, I think they're not even trying

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Speaker 2: to convince people of that is true, but they're putting

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Speaker 2: that out there. It's a smokescreen narrative. It's wait, hold

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Speaker 2: on a second, I guess we have to wait for

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Speaker 2: the facts to come in. They've already established a narrative

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Speaker 2: that seems shaky at best, but that gets to be

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Speaker 2: the narrative. And in the meantime, anyone who says that

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Speaker 2: makes no sense or that seems very odd as a

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Speaker 2: motive is told, why you're a bad person, wait for

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Speaker 2: the facts to come in. What's wrong with you is

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Speaker 2: this is the way that the media does it. And

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Speaker 2: then you brought up Nashville before, and I just think

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Speaker 2: that's so important for everyone to remember. Right now, it

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Speaker 2: has been clay days, forty five days since the shooting

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Speaker 2: at that school, that mass murder in Nashville. They have

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Speaker 2: a manifesto, folks, They have writings of the killer of

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Speaker 2: the trans terrorist, and they will not release it and

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Speaker 2: they won't even officially speculate as to motive. We have

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Speaker 2: not even what was the motive for it, Clay. There

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Speaker 2: is not a single no police authority, no media authority, nobody.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna get in it, but there was.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to make the case on television

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Speaker 2: that it was a trans terrorist motivated by ideology, and

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Speaker 2: at least one show would not let me because they thought, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't have the evidence for this, and I say

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Speaker 2: to myself, oh, okay, so we have to wait for

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent certainty, which will never come. The other

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Speaker 2: side get to just put their analysts on TV based

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Speaker 2: on no facts at all and make their own case.

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Speaker 2: This is because they really want to convince people Clay

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Speaker 2: that the biggest threat in America is white supremacist terrorism.

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Speaker 2: It's the biggest threat not just for violence but also

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Speaker 2: to our democracy. Because of January sixth, it does start

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Speaker 2: to feel like an anti white animus is very widespread,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of these media outlets, it does feel

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Speaker 2: like there's something going on here.

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Speaker 1: A lot of white people hate white people. That's like

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Speaker 1: the one thing that the far left woke universe creates. Right,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people left are ashamed of being of

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Speaker 1: a lot of white people on the left are ashamed

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Speaker 1: of being white.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: So this reminds me of the Larry Elder the black

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Speaker 1: Face of White Supremacy headline that many of you may

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Speaker 1: remember from the La Times when he was running to

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Speaker 1: try and replace Gavin Newsom. Larry Elder, a black conservative

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Speaker 1: radio voice, was, according to the La Times, the black

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Speaker 1: face of war white supremacy. I don't think, Buck, I've

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Speaker 1: ever met a white supremacist, right, Like, I mean this

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Speaker 1: honestly or known, maybe I should say, because who knows

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Speaker 1: in the course of your life, But I mean known

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Speaker 1: a white supremacist. This idea that the left has created

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Speaker 1: in their fever dreams of a racist, hugely powerful cottage

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Speaker 1: industry of white supremacists, it just it doesn't fit anything

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Speaker 1: that I or I bet a huge percentage of U

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Speaker 1: see on a daily basis. But it would also be

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Speaker 1: Buck explained this to me, and and and maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a theory on this. If Hispanic people are now

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Speaker 1: white supremacists, doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of white supremacy.

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Speaker 1: Like if you are saying the race of whiteness is

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Speaker 1: so important to must be protected, adding other races into

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Speaker 1: the white supremacist argue would seem I'm just tossing it.

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Speaker 1: It would seem to undercut the supremacy of whiteness if

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Speaker 1: all of these other races are also able to be

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Speaker 1: white supremacist too. Right, So, the very idea that you

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Speaker 1: could expand the definition now of white supremacy to clearly

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Speaker 1: a Hispanic man would suggest that the white supremacy movement

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Speaker 1: must be really struggling because they can't even find white

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Speaker 1: dudes to be white supremacist. And now we got to

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Speaker 1: bring in black governors from California and Hispanic shooters from Texas.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is so laughably absurd. It's why the

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Speaker 1: Chappelle skit comes to mind, because what it represents is

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Speaker 1: narrative over fact period, and so many people are willing

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Speaker 1: to accept it. Buck they read the headline, they share it,

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Speaker 1: they don't pay attention to it, they don't even question it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they also immediately now you'll notice there's always this

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Speaker 2: focus on on the AR fifteen, Right, that's the whenever

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Speaker 2: there's one of these shootings, if it involves not all

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Speaker 2: of them do obviously, and that's only mass shootings. Most shootings,

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Speaker 2: as we know, ninety five percent of fatal shootings involve handguns.

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Speaker 2: So not even nothing even in the general family of

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Speaker 2: an AR fifteen. Why do they hate AR fifteen so much? Well,

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Speaker 2: for one thing, they associate AR fifteens with. This is

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Speaker 2: in the mind of the of the contemporary Democrat, the

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Speaker 2: contemporary lib the AR fifteen is what you know, NRA

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Speaker 2: supporting Second Amendment, loving you know, Americans and a lot

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Speaker 2: of them. Yes, a lot of the guys who like

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Speaker 2: AR fifteens are white American guys who support the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 2: They are the problem. This is what we're told. They're

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Speaker 2: the reason. If they don't give up their AR fifteens,

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Speaker 2: we can't handle the gun violence epidemic in this country.

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Speaker 2: But then the rest of us sit here and say,

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Speaker 2: we'll hold on a second. Where is the gun violence

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Speaker 2: epidemic really happening? By the numbers, uncontested data, who's involved

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Speaker 2: in it? Where is the disproportionate level of violence occurring

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Speaker 2: in this country? It's not white guys who own AR fifteens.

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Speaker 2: We know that by the data. That's not actually what's happening.

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Speaker 2: So why is that always the focus of all of

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Speaker 2: the gun control arguments, Because this is a political signaling

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Speaker 2: effort to show that this is really just about I

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Speaker 2: hate Republicans, I don't like the right. It's not about

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Speaker 2: making anybody safer. It's not about taking dangerous firearms out

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Speaker 2: of the hands of criminals. If you're talking about dangerous

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Speaker 2: fire arms out of the hands of criminals, you don't

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Speaker 2: focus on things like waiting periods. Oh a waiting period.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's really gonna You know, you could even

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Speaker 2: look and see how the cartels, for example, get a

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Speaker 2: lot of their guns across the border. It's just using

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Speaker 2: straw purchases, which is illegal, and you can go to

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Speaker 2: prison for a long time for people do it anyway.

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Speaker 2: Clay right, this is so why is there all this

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Speaker 2: focus on the AR fifteen Because the AR fifty team

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Speaker 2: is a convenient political target for Democrats because of who

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Speaker 2: they view as the standard AR. So, by the way,

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Speaker 2: black white doesn't matter. Someone who supports the Second Amendment,

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Speaker 2: someone who has conservative beliefs, someone who believes in the

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Speaker 2: right to self defense. All of those things tend to

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Speaker 2: cluster around people who lawfully own AR fifteen. So that's

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Speaker 2: why they always want to go after the assault rifle.

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Speaker 2: They don't really talk about pistols very much anymore. Why

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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: What percentage of shootings do you think are committed by

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Speaker 1: Democrat voters?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could obviously throw out a guess the

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Speaker 2: guests would be. Look, here here's another question for you.

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Speaker 2: What percentage of violent felons are Biden voters? And I

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Speaker 2: mean I think you're looking at something. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I would guess super high, But I want

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Speaker 2: to check.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I'm bringing it up is we know

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Speaker 1: NRA members have among the lowest rights a violent crime

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Speaker 1: of anyone in the entire United States. Right and lawful

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Speaker 1: gun owners actually have far lower rates of violent crime

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Speaker 1: than your average American city. Steal carry permit holders per

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Speaker 1: capita commit fewer crimes than law enforcement does. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's about that's the eye opening stat So what percentage

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Speaker 1: of all murders are committed by Biden voters? Well over half?

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Speaker 1: Right now, you can say, well, what percentage of murderers vote?

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Speaker 1: Probably low. I'm just I'm just guessing. I'm guessing there

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Speaker 1: aren't like tons of murderers who are also like scholars

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Speaker 1: of you know, separation of powers, like out there debating.

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Speaker 1: But Democrats and Democrat run cities are where almost all

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Speaker 1: crime occurs as a statistical measure, and yet they don't

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Speaker 1: want to go to the essence of the crime. And

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Speaker 1: I've used this analogy before, but it's like a fat

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Speaker 1: person saying my thumb's too fat. Well, is it really

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Speaker 1: your thumb or is it the whole body that you

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Speaker 1: need to worry about.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this, if Democrats were serious about

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Speaker 2: dealing with gun violence. You know, they wouldn't be advocating

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Speaker 2: arfif And by the way, I'm not advocating for this.

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Speaker 2: I want to be very clear. I don't think this

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Speaker 2: is a good idea. Iaink the criminals would just have guns.

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Speaker 2: And I'm a staunch I'm sitting here in my room

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Speaker 2: with all my firearms five feet away from me. But

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Speaker 2: if they were even trying to be intellectually consistent, what

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Speaker 2: they would say is, we want to have a federal

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Speaker 2: mandatory minimum for anyone who possesses a handgun illegally. And

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Speaker 2: they'd come up with some you know, wickered v Philburn,

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Speaker 2: interstate commerce, you know, nonsense basis for it, right, which

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Speaker 2: they've done with so many things. But the problem with

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Speaker 2: having a mandatory prison sentence for illegal handgun ownership is

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Speaker 2: they would not like the demographics of who would disproportionately

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Speaker 2: be lopy, racist in major cities across the country. But

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Speaker 2: AR fifteen's that they're good with. They've got the bump

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Speaker 2: stock bands going to go into effect in a few weeks. Here,

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Speaker 2: the ATF says, yeah, that thing we said you could

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Speaker 2: buy legally, now we the ATF, have said it is illegal.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't get rid of it. You're a felon.

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Speaker 2: You could go to prison for I think ten years.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, bump stock bands play. That's going to keep

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Speaker 2: us I'm sorry, not bump stock pistol. Did I say

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Speaker 2: bump stock? I meant pistol brace. I meant pistol brace.

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Speaker 2: Please stop, y'eller, give me everybody pistol brace bands. That's

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Speaker 2: not going to keep anybody safe. So it's crazy what's

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Speaker 2: going on right now. And we just have to look

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Speaker 2: at the facts, the data, and the reality of it

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Speaker 1: Truth Seeking, Reality Telling the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Buck was

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Speaker 1: down here in Nashville last week. We did a fun

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Speaker 1: event out in Franklin which I'm told to tell you

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Speaker 1: is an awful part of the Nashville area. None of

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Speaker 1: you should come down here and ever think about living here.

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Speaker 1: It's just atrocious. Everybody hates it. Franklin Brentwood, Nashville area.

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Speaker 1: Just don't even think about it. It's actually amazing. But

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you we're full. Don't even think about it.

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Speaker 1: So we're down there and we had I was doing

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Speaker 1: a we have an event called Westfest. Great band, several

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Speaker 1: thousand people out and I was em seeing. I was

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Speaker 1: introducing the different bands, and there was an area under

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Speaker 1: a tent that had an open bar, and Buck saw

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Speaker 1: me come up with this experien The cooler was stocked

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Speaker 1: with all different kinds of beer and bud light, Mick, Ultra,

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Speaker 1: and Yingling were the three most common. I think there

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Speaker 1: were a few ranch waters also thrown in out there.

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Speaker 1: And at six thirty or so, I opened that cooler

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Speaker 1: to get myself a drink, and I told Buck, I said,

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Speaker 1: I bet you, by nine forty five, when it gets

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Speaker 1: dark here and this event's been going on for a while,

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Speaker 1: I bet you that only bud light will be left

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Speaker 1: in this cooler. People will all choose to get other

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Speaker 1: beers to avoid having a bud Light in their hand.

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Speaker 1: I posted these videos in the last couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: At Twitter at Clay Travis Buck, we've talked about bud

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Speaker 1: Light in the fact that twenty six percent decline according

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Speaker 1: to Beer Business Daily. I think it was overall rejection

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Speaker 1: of bud Light that's occurring. I think it's actually getting

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Speaker 1: worse now because the bud Light brand has become so

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Speaker 1: toxic that guys think, if I'm even drinking a bud

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Speaker 1: Light now, I'm gonna get friends by my friends. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I think this is now. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how bud Light comes back from this, because this was

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Speaker 1: a tailgate scene, and people out there know I go

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Speaker 1: around and they've covered college football for a long time

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Speaker 1: and gotten to spend a lot of time at tailgates everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I think that this football season that's coming up, especially

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Speaker 1: in the SEC and the Big Twelve and the Southern

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Speaker 1: ACC schools, I think no one's gonna have bud Light

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Speaker 1: at their tailgates. Buck, I think that they are legitimately

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Speaker 1: buy and large not going to buy it because it's

861
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: the equivalent of having like a zema in your hand.

862
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: Back in the day, it's.

863
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa, Hey, hey Clayist. They brought it back

864
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: because some of us who love the nineties and we're

865
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: drinking underage, apparently thought that Zema was a fabulous beverage

866
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: at its time. They actually started making it. It was

867
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: like resurrected as part of nineties nostalgia. I still remember

868
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: those commercials. So I don't know about the shade you're

869
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: throwing towards Zemo right now.

870
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: I just know there were a lot of guys that

871
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: were mocked for drinking Zema, and initially, to be fair,

872
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: people would get mocked for drinking light beer in general.

873
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: And then they smartly went Millert Coors light bud Light.

874
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: They went and they marketed light beer two men aggressively.

875
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: And I just after this little experiment, and I'm not

876
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: claiming that it's anything other than anecdotal, but in response,

877
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: if you go into Twitter and look at that, you

878
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: can see people responding and saying, hey, at my golf course,

879
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, the cart girls aren't even putting bud light

880
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: on the golf cart anymore because when they're pulling up

881
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: to sell beers, guys are making fun of each other

882
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: so much for drinking a bud light that they just

883
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: stopped stocking it on the golf course, you know, for

884
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: the cart girls going around, which is really kind of interesting.

885
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: I think this is happening everywhere.

886
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: What is the thing that everyone drinks, the seltzer that

887
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: became so super popular, the alcoholic seltzer, you know, white

888
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: claw white claws. Yes, those took over the world for

889
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: a few years there, and every every generation gets in.

890
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this right now, okay, for everyone

891
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 2: out there. You know, every generation has their new version

892
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: of basically some kind of a spritzer, and it's are

893
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: you never.

894
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: Just trying to defend zema?

895
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: Excuse me, sir. Everyone everyone has their spritzer of their generation,

896
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: and you know, you can come up with new versions

897
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: of it. But it's just funny. Ever, it's like, oh, look,

898
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: I've discovered this amazing thing called a white claw. Yeah,

899
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: white claw zema with little fruit flavor thrown in there.

900
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: It's the same thing.

901
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I would not have expected you to be such an

902
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: avowed spokesperson for Zema.

903
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: I don't really drink, but I do, you know.

904
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: As has arisen, But for this minor experiment, it would

905
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: suggest that the branding of bud Light because even when

906
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: I was going to get beers for people Buck, they

907
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: would say, anything but a bud light. What do you

908
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: want to drink? I'm fine any beer but a bud Light.

909
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: Never heard that in my whole life, and I understand.

910
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of emails after from some of

911
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: our beer drinkers out there angry at me. One guy

912
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: emailed in and he said, I'd hate for you to

913
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: lose listeners over your opinion over the difference between Cours

914
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Light and Miller Lite. Let me just tell you this,

915
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: all right, if anybody out there, after two years of

916
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: me giving opinions on everything under the sun, Buck was like,

917
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, I was all in on Clay and Buck.

918
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: And then Clay said, there's not that much difference between

919
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: bud Light, Miller Lite, and Coors Light, and most of

920
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell the difference if you were at a

921
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: game and you had a hot dog and you had

922
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: an unlabeled beer in your hand between those three. That

923
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: was the moment where I thought to myself, I can't

924
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: listen to this guy anymore. He's gone too far. I

925
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: don't think there's a single person in America who would

926
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: be in that camp.

927
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 2: Do you think, first of all, we're still getting emails

928
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: about that Clay, so people are still firing.

929
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: Up about like the Miller Like people are fired up

930
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: that I could ever believe that Miller Light and Cores

931
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: Light are pretty similar in taste.

932
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: But okay, you know, the Miller Light brigade comes after you, sir,

933
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They they defend their their

934
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: barley and hops very much. So isn't that what's in beer?

935
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: So that's one part of this, But also is there

936
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 2: any way that this can be turned around? I'm fascionated

937
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: by this. It almost feels like they're gonna have to

938
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: just rebrand whatever they were selling as Bud Light as

939
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 2: something else. But then does that seem like it's such

940
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: a retreat that other see people have been pointing this

941
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: out in BEV, Brazilian company by Zennheuser Busch. It's Anheuser

942
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: Anheuser Busch in BEV. Now it's a global conglomerate that

943
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: sells dozens and dozens of different you know, drinks all

944
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: over the world. Right, so they're saying, well, it's this

945
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: isn't going to bankrupt Anheuser Busch in BEV. That is true, obviously,

946
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: it's not even necessarily going to hurt the stock price.

947
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: That is also true. Right now. We'll see what happens

948
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: when the you know, the second quarter earnings are in.

949
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: But for bud Lights specifically and people that rely on

950
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: bud Light as distributors and people that are tied more

951
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: to this brand, is the brand made toxic now to

952
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: its base in a way where it is actually irreparable?

953
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Is this something that they

954
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: can't fix? You can fix anything. I think over time,

955
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be a multi year issue

956
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: for them now because I don't see it fading away quickly.

957
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this when we were at

958
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: the tailgate and I was looking. I mean again, this

959
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: was an area where you could just select any beer, right,

960
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: and that's kind of like a tailgate scene. And at

961
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: college football or NFL games or places where largely male

962
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: audiences are consuming beverages, I think a ton of dudes

963
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: out there are gonna be like, Okay, I got to

964
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: go buy you know, ninety six beers this weekend, right

965
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: because all the guys are coming, We're gonna tailgate. I

966
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: don't know for the Kansas City Chiefs game or Miami

967
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: Dolphins game or San Francisco forty nine ers, whatever it is,

968
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 2: using NFL and certainly Big ten sec acc Big twelve.

969
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: I would put myself up against anybody on knowledge of

970
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: the you know, tailgate scene, cultures of college football. Right.

971
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: I think dudes are not buying bud Light, and I

972
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: think to your point, some of them will buy other

973
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: Anheuser Busch products. For instance, in the video that I posted,

974
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: I reach in, I hold up a Micultra. It's also

975
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: a Budweiser product, but buck they marketed Micultra as the

976
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: healthy beer, right because it has like ninety calories or

977
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: whatever it is. So if you're trying to stay in

978
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: shape but you also like beer, they what do they

979
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: do with the television commercials. It's like a good looking

980
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: guy and a good looking girl are running against each

981
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: other like athletically training, and then at the end they

982
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: have a mic Ultra, right, because it's got ninety calories

983
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to I think average beer has like one

984
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, one hundred and sixty calories. Whatever it is.

985
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: What is the bud Light lane? What is their marketing lane?

986
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: Now that they have been identified as the beer for

987
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: loser dudes. That's that's their brand. Now, if you are

988
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: a dude and you are drinking a bud Light, and

989
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: that was probably eighty percent seventy five percent of their

990
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: audience to begin with. Now your buddies are going to

991
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: be like, hey, look at Jimmy the loser. He's got

992
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: a bud Light and you'll just drink a Corps Light

993
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: or a Miller light instead.

994
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'd be like, hey, we're all

995
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: supposed to go jet skiing together. But then you know,

996
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 2: Tommy over here was being a bit of a bud

997
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: Light drinker. You know, it's not good, not a good look.

998
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a modern day despite Buck's affinity for

999
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: the brand, it's a modern day Zema.

1000
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: I know.

1001
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 2: No, it's well, some of the Zema drinkers out there

1002
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: please back me up on this one. A hard Seltzer

1003
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: is not in the same category as bud Lights.

1004
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: And by the way, you can respond sometimes I'll give

1005
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: you an example, Buck, I like Sangria, all right. I

1006
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: will order a san Gria every now and then. You

1007
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: saw me order the peacock drink in Miami, the.

1008
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: Beautiest drink, I mean, like actual fruit all over it

1009
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: in a peacock. It was amazing.

1010
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Yes, but you can respond typically when you order a

1011
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: drink like that by saying, you know what, it may

1012
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: look funny, but it tastes really good. Does anybody out

1013
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: there ever drink a bud Light and be like, you

1014
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: know this, bud Light is the best tasting beer that's

1015
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: ever existed. No one in the history of beer drinking

1016
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: has ever said that about bud Light. There are a

1017
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of other beers you could drink if you're going

1018
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: for taste, And so if you're gonna be the guy

1019
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: who's out there pounded White Claws or whatever, you can

1020
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, I I like the taste

1021
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: of this better. Can't even have that argument for bud Light.

1022
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: I think bud Light is screwed. I think they are

1023
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: in severe disaster level positioning right now.

1024
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,480
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