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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nol.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Folks, fellow conspiracy realist,

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Speaker 3: friends and neighbors. This is our listener mail program. We

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Speaker 3: are pleased as a geomagnetic storm that you have joined us.

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Speaker 3: So if you're tuning in the evening, this weekly listener

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Speaker 3: mail segment publishes while welcome to Thursday, November thirteenth. Can

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Speaker 3: you believe it? Did you guys see the Aurora borealis?

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Speaker 4: Wait? We should have been able to see it from

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Speaker 4: where we sit. No, no, cause that would have been wild. Okay, No, no,

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Speaker 4: I wish man. It's really migrated. No, I didn't see

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Speaker 2: But they were much further spread than they normally are

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Speaker 2: because the Earth as of yesterday. We're recording this on

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Speaker 2: November twelfth. As of yesterday, there were two CMEs that hit.

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Speaker 3: And then be a coronal mass ejection.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and there's a third one that is hitting us

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Speaker 2: today on November twelfth. So this is a scenario we've

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Speaker 2: talked about before on the show while back, but just

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Speaker 2: the concept of the Sun sending out some stuff, some

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Speaker 2: energy that messes with the Earth's magnetic thing that.

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Speaker 4: It has with power, right, can't mess with grids, And.

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Speaker 3: Yes, especially in Canada back in the mid nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 3: do check out our episode Slaves to the Sun, which

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Speaker 3: is a pretty click baby title. But yes, as far

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Speaker 3: as the humans can be concerned, it's easy to ignore

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Speaker 3: solar activity. But make no mistake fellow fellow Earth residents

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Speaker 3: fell sun worshippers or sun haters.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got room for everybody to quote Phoebus

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Speaker 4: in butt heead the Sun sucks.

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Speaker 2: There's really interesting stories that end up coming out when

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Speaker 2: there are storms like this in those more than northern territories,

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Speaker 2: about things like tractors and farming equipment. Sure it goes

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Speaker 2: you know, quote goes haywire and quote acts like it's

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Speaker 2: demon possessed.

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Speaker 3: Because mostly storms, most electronics are not hardened for this

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Speaker 3: kind of event. Make no mistake though, folks, it can happen.

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Speaker 3: It could happen today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what is that Stephen King one about the electronics? No,

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Speaker 2: the electronics going sell okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: And also, oh this is this is a cool one, folks,

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Speaker 3: if you are again listening the evening this publishes November thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: I want to take a little page from our pals

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Speaker 3: at Daily's Eye. Guys, get this. It is World Hindness Day,

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Speaker 3: So if you are feeling kind please do get thee

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Speaker 3: to thy platform of choice and maybe give us a rating.

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Speaker 3: We'd love five.

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Speaker 4: Stars and man to take a page out of some

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Speaker 4: other podcasts. Maybe if you do that and you leave

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Speaker 4: a nice way, but we'll read it on the listener mail.

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Speaker 4: We'll include that as a way as an additional form

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Speaker 3: So blind you know. I love it, and in the

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Speaker 3: spirit of World Kindess Day, I gotta tell you, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's it's similar to how if you report a cme

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Speaker 3: or weird stuff in the sky, certain organizations will send

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Speaker 3: you a nice letter and maybe a piece of candy. Nope,

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Speaker 3: you do not get to choose which piece of candy.

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Speaker 2: And it will be a toutsy roll.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, for sure.

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Speaker 4: And how many licks does it take?

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Speaker 4: They revamp that commercial the old it's like the same

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Speaker 4: but different with the with the mister Owl, you know,

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Speaker 4: and all that walk us through it. Oh, how many

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Speaker 4: licks does it take to get to the tutsi roll

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Speaker 4: center of a tutsi pop? Mister Owl? He licks it one, two, three,

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Speaker 3: Ah, yes, but we can find out together. We're we're

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Speaker 3: piece of holiday folklore that is not generally known in

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Speaker 3: the West. So what say we guys, do we want

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Speaker 4: Or Christmas catnip?

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Speaker 3: Perhaps Christmas catnip definitely, And before we get to listener

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Speaker 6: the Granston Rudabaco. We're seeding for thirteen and five thousand

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Speaker 4: We returned with a message from Icelandic volcano nerd. Is

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Speaker 4: Is a message that Ben delightfully responded to and had

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, The yule Ads terrified children across Iceland.

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Speaker 4: And all of these things specifically were representative of fears

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Speaker 4: That's right. The mule cat or turin forgive my lack

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Speaker 3: She's out there eating the flesh.

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Speaker 4: and now we're getting into what the Yule Cat's all about.

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Speaker 4: The mule Cat will meet out punishment for those who

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Speaker 3: Don't have new clothes, it's you know, and like a

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Speaker 4: Right. The idea here is to remind parents, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know, it is seemingly gonna affect the kids more

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Speaker 3: Lamb is very much a thing in Iceland, Icelandic Volcano Nerd,

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Speaker 3: thank you for confirming. I also hear great things about

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Speaker 3: You have to go back for your fitness.

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Speaker 4: You must, yes, rip the band aid off. Ask about

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Speaker 4: I had not heard about that. It's it's such a.

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Speaker 4: that are getting blowed up, talking about ocean drugs, the

436
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Speaker 4: wolves on the way, for sure, dude.

437
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Speaker 2: And then the whole thing is going down in the

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Speaker 2: UN recently again we're it's Wednesday, November twelfth right now,

439
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Speaker 2: which is recently about. I forget Mike Waltzer or whoever

440
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: was speaking of the UN got cut off by the

441
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Speaker 2: Cuban delegate.

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Speaker 3: This isn't a signal chat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was intense, no, for I mean really absolutely,

444
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: and it was they were speaking on the very thing.

445
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Speaker 2: Just all of the droning, bombing, extra judicial killings of

446
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Speaker 2: human beings on boats that you know, supposedly are drug

447
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Speaker 2: traffickers that end up in the bottom of the sea purportedly.

448
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Speaker 3: Also, it's super messing with already eroded intelligence cooperatives across

449
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Speaker 3: the world. The UK pulled out, they said, no, what

450
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Speaker 3: tasty secrets for you?

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Speaker 2: Can you see, ben, I thought about you this morning

452
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Speaker 2: when I read that news about the secret sharing, the

453
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Speaker 2: intelligent sharing, just that the United Kingdom, perhaps the primary

454
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Speaker 2: ally of the United States like getting cold feet when

455
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Speaker 2: it comes to what they're going to share with us.

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Speaker 4: YI.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, our Atlantic cousins are not tickety boo at the moment.

458
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All that said, let's jump into something that's completely different.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's go with a message from Inconspicuous

461
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Speaker 2: that came in pretty recently. But I believe it's speaking

462
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Speaker 2: to an episode we made about near death experiences with

463
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Speaker 2: Dan Bush, friend of the show director, creator of Alive Again.

464
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Speaker 2: We had an interview with him. I believe that's what

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Speaker 2: this message is, you know, speaking to but specifically near

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Speaker 2: death experiences. So let's hear from Inconspicuous. Oh and note

467
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Speaker 2: here there's some lyrics in here that I'm gonna need

468
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Speaker 2: your guys help on. I don't really know the song

469
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Speaker 2: that's being mentioned or so I love the lyrics game. Yeah,

470
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Speaker 2: so need some help.

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Speaker 9: Here we go, Hello, gentle people of stuff. They don't

472
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Speaker 9: want you to know. You guys are super talented individually,

473
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Speaker 9: and when you get together, I'll tell you what. It's

474
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Speaker 9: just an explosion of a creatively factual fun rabbit hole

475
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Speaker 9: every time. Kudos to you guys. You can call me inconspicuous.

476
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Speaker 5: I experienced on.

477
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 8: Your death experience.

478
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 9: In this experience and experiment we call life, I've only

479
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 9: had one seizure in my life other than birth. My

480
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Speaker 9: eyes rolled in the back of my head and I

481
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Speaker 9: fell straight backwards, and I was caught by my gal

482
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Speaker 9: pal at the time. She saved my head from hitting

483
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Speaker 9: solid squared step floor. So yeah, she saved my life.

484
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Speaker 9: But I left. I went to someplace else, completely happy

485
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Speaker 9: and accepting everything that was going on. I was not

486
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Speaker 9: upset about passing away. I was just an observer on

487
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Speaker 9: a trip at this point, and I was being taken

488
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Speaker 9: and you know the lyrics to After the gold Rush.

489
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Speaker 5: Oh it come saying about the Queen. There were children

490
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Speaker 5: singing and drummers drumming, the archers split the tree. If

491
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Speaker 5: you can imagine that in you know, pure energy form,

492
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Speaker 5: like a medieval just made of energy. That's all right,

493
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Speaker 5: have a good night.

494
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Speaker 4: Right, Okay. It is a Neil Young tune. And I

495
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Speaker 4: think the part that blipped out a little bit was well,

496
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Speaker 4: I dreamed I saw the knights in armor come in

497
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Speaker 4: saying something about a queen. There were peasants singing and

498
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Speaker 4: drummers drumming, and the archer split the tree. There was

499
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Speaker 4: a fanfare into the sun that was floating on the breeze.

500
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Speaker 4: Look at Mother Nature on the run in the nineteen seventies.

501
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Speaker 4: Look at my mother Nature on the run in the

502
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Speaker 4: nineteen seventies. That's just beautiful interesting.

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Speaker 2: So so a medieval scene, but in the nineteen seventies

504
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Speaker 2: and in energy format. Guys, your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I love the idea, I mean beautiful, a beautiful, a

506
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Speaker 4: beautiful near death experience. I love it when you hear

507
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 4: about these and there's a piece or a calm that

508
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: overtakes people.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a very specific one to me, almost

510
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: like a parade for you know, one you newly reunited

511
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Speaker 2: with whatever that energy you know state is.

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Speaker 4: I guess pretty wonderful.

513
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Speaker 2: And it's interesting to have one just through a seizure

514
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Speaker 2: without having that impact right in conspicuous said, I guess

515
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Speaker 2: his head didn't actually make impact with that hard floor

516
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Speaker 2: that would have, you know, potentially caused serious damage, not

517
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Speaker 2: fullumbrain damage and the kind of thing that would get

518
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Speaker 2: you closer to death. It was just through a seizure event.

519
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Speaker 2: I just wonder how often that's the thing I've never

520
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Speaker 2: really heard of that guys going into another state via seizure.

521
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Speaker 2: The closest thing I've experienced is like a very intense

522
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Speaker 2: dream that feels like it lasts way longer than it

523
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Speaker 2: does when you briefly lose consciousness, like if you get

524
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Speaker 2: knocked out just for a moment through lack of oxygen

525
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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 4: It's also something people report in certain cases of high

527
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Speaker 4: powered hallucinogens like DMT, where it is a moment of

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Speaker 4: clock time that extends out to what feels like many

529
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Speaker 4: many hours to the person experiencing it.

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Speaker 3: And I would add further inconspicuous. So glad you're okay,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for reaching out always, Love and Neil

532
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Speaker 3: Young references especially now if you know what I'm saying,

533
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Speaker 3: one thing to what you were saying earlier there, Matt

534
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: about seizures is that seizures, there's a very interesting theory

535
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: that bouts of epilepsy or bouts of traumatic brain injury

536
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: seizures may indeed inform religious encounters what we see of

537
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: profits of old right, the sears and the soothsayers. There's

538
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: definitely more under the hood of the engine that we

539
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: call the human brain than is currently understood and inconspicuous.

540
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: If you haven't listened yet, please tune in to our

541
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Speaker 3: episode from way back in twenty fifteen, what Happens When

542
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: We Die, In addition to our interview about Alive Again,

543
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: which is a show we think you'll love. What Happens

544
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: when We Die is a pretty fascinating exploration. You might

545
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: also like our shows about the nature, quantum mechanics, and

546
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: Dreaming to Knowle's earlier point.

547
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Speaker 2: Thank yeah, and also thanks for those really kind words

548
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Speaker 2: that you said to the being your message there, we

549
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Speaker 2: we greatly appreciate.

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Speaker 4: It, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump to a message from messenger. You know who

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00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: you are, Messenger. This one is regarding the discussions we've

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Speaker 2: been having about grocery stores and having them for a

554
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Speaker 2: while now, talking about the various things that are going

555
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 2: to happen in the giant conglomerate companies that give us

556
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: all of the glorious food that we need to survive.

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Speaker 2: So here we go. Let's jump to Messenger.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Matt Noel Ben Messenger here just to listen to

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Speaker 8: your strange news episode about grocery stores compiring against you.

560
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Speaker 8: You talked about them raising prices for rich people, and

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Speaker 8: I think that's the exact opposite direction. It will go

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Speaker 8: think about supply and demand. Go back to your beans model.

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00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 8: Can of beans. It's much more important to some, but

564
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Speaker 8: you maybe can't afford something else, so that price is

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Speaker 8: going to go up on that person who really needs

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Speaker 8: that Canna bem. He also talked about individual pricing as well.

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Speaker 8: I think one thing that grocery stores are moving to

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Speaker 8: is online shopping. Well, they can easily change the prices

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Speaker 8: on online shopping for individual buyers. In the dynamic pricing model,

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Speaker 8: we have something called rate tolerance. How much is somebody

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Speaker 8: willing to pay for the item. All they need to

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Speaker 8: do is inch that item up a few pennies here,

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Speaker 8: a few pennies there, and see how much that person

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Speaker 8: is willing to pay until they stop buying that product.

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Speaker 8: You can easily do that for something that's commonly bought

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Speaker 8: on somebody who's shopping online. Anyway, Thank you, love the show,

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Speaker 8: Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, there we go. Okay, there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: respond to you there. I would just point out that

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Speaker 2: I did not know that term rate tolerance, and it's

581
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Speaker 2: actually been pretty hard to find rate tolerance, at least

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Speaker 2: through Google and how it relates back to dynamic pricing.

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Speaker 2: There's a weird little AI overview thing that gets served

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Speaker 2: to me, whether I like it or not, that talks

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, if I go through and look at

588
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Speaker 2: the actual links that are set up here, nothing is

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Speaker 2: mentioning rate tolerance.

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Speaker 3: Think think of it more. Another convenient term here, messenger,

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Speaker 3: might be price tolerance. That would be it's essentially the

592
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: same thing, idea, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Or like rate hike tolerance referring to like public service commission,

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Speaker 4: you know, decisions around how much cost of energy might

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Speaker 4: be able to be increased incrementally before causing consumer backlash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes complete sense to me, like this concept

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Speaker 2: that you can only raise it so high in a

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Speaker 2: given set of circumstances, right that when you look at

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Speaker 2: median income or something, and inflation rates and all this

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Speaker 2: other stuff, like these company can choose to raise that

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Speaker 2: price up, but at some point they're going to hit

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Speaker 2: a ceiling where nobody's gonna buy that thing anymore, or

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Speaker 2: at least not enough people will buy that thing.

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Speaker 4: I just saw a Piece and Fast company apparently I

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Speaker 4: got to look into the bona fides of the research,

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Speaker 4: but a twenty percent price hike as a result of

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Speaker 4: tariffs is about the max people will tolerate while in

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Speaker 4: retail products, which seems mega high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it makes you think of the egg prices

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Speaker 2: did we discuss on the show, you know, and we

611
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Speaker 2: all personally experienced that were happening there for a while

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Speaker 2: during the av and flu scare, and just about how

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Speaker 2: much more expensive eggs became and now kind of still are.

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Speaker 2: It makes you wonder about once you hit one of

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Speaker 2: those things, you figure out the rate tolerance for your

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Speaker 2: average customer for any given product in let's say a Kroger,

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Speaker 2: why would it ever come down right?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's I think a point we all made once

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Speaker 4: that stuff was rolled out for COVID. It's not exactly

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Speaker 4: in the best interest or in the nature of business

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Speaker 4: to be like, well, actually, let's let's let's let's walk

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Speaker 4: it back. So it's really hard to get that to

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Speaker 4: happen once they've gotten a taste.

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Speaker 3: And inconspicuous and put it this way, just to sort

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Speaker 3: of draw out the Venn diagram here, So price tolerance

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Speaker 3: means the absolute highest price consumers are willing to pay right.

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Speaker 3: So for a macro or microcosmic example picture, you're in

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Speaker 3: a city like Atlanta, which I have definitely just chosen randomly,

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Speaker 3: and buttered chicken is always going to be twenty dollars

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Speaker 3: because there's a limited number of restaurants that figured out

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Speaker 3: if we all sell buttered chicken for twenty bucks, then

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Speaker 3: people will determine the best buttered chicken. And we're too small.

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Speaker 3: We're below the threshold of monopoly and price fixing because

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Speaker 3: we're different restaurants. That is price tolerance. Rate tolerance is saying, okay,

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Speaker 3: we all have buttered chicken for fifteen dollars, how narrow

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Speaker 3: or how elongated is our window of time from getting

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Speaker 3: to fifteen bucks per to twenty bucks per So that's

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Speaker 3: the difference between retolerance and price tolerance. Also, I want

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Speaker 3: to go on record seeing I completely agree with the

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Speaker 3: notion of online shopping versus going into a brick and

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Speaker 3: mortar stores. The economy of scale kicks in. It's increasingly

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Speaker 3: convenient for people. And it used to be a fancy

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Speaker 3: pants let me put on my tuxedo thing, and now,

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Speaker 3: especially post COVID, more and more people are getting groceries delivered,

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Speaker 3: which makes dynamic pricing and pricing grifts way easier to accomplish.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I remember back in the day working in retail,

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Speaker 4: when online retail was just sort of becoming a thing.

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Speaker 4: It was the bane of the existence of brick and

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Speaker 4: mortar retailers, but was also sort of a heralding of like,

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Speaker 4: this is gonna be the way because there's this sense

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Speaker 4: that it is best for consumers, but also at the

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Speaker 4: end of day, it is best for retailers.

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Speaker 2: Ben, I want to go off of an example, like

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Speaker 2: specifically you just gave because it pinged in my world

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Speaker 2: because we recently bought some butter chicken sauce at a Kroger,

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Speaker 2: And I think we can do a little experiment if

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Speaker 2: we all go in our search browsers and search for

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Speaker 2: a specific item and see if it costs the same

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Speaker 2: for all of us. Is that cool?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Please?

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Speaker 2: So this is the thing I'm looking for, is private

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Speaker 2: selection butter chicken simmer sauce.

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Speaker 3: So it'll be the generic Kroger brand, yes, right, okay.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, it does appear to be out of stock. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you really you got in right right under the wye.

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Speaker 2: Seat now shows me. I can pick it up right

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Speaker 2: now where I am.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the plot thickens, as does the sauce.

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Speaker 2: Is there a price associated with Moore?

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Speaker 4: Twenty nine is what I'm seeing?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm seeing the same exact price here where I am.

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Speaker 3: What you seeing, ben, Oh, I'll play reindeer games.

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Speaker 2: These are not reindeer games. These are butter chicken games.

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Speaker 2: Just putting that point of order copy.

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Speaker 3: So with the public browser, I'm seeing four thirty nine,

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Speaker 3: and with the proxies I'm seeing for twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: Hang on a tick, I've got four to seventy nine

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Speaker 4: on Kroger's official website. But then in the little sidebar

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Speaker 4: in my Chrome browser, I'm seeing in stock Nearby for

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Speaker 4: seventy nine, door Dash for seventy nine. Okay, thatspicuous. I

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Speaker 4: told you, dude for Cary nine on Instacart. But that's

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Speaker 4: that's gonna probably wait wait waitter in their delivery fees.

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Speaker 2: Wait four ninety, I've got five nineteen on Instacart.

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Speaker 4: Well, Well, if we're talking about dynamic pricing, the grocery

685
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Speaker 4: delivery systems are going to be a black box and

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Speaker 4: are definitely going to take into account your ability to pay.

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Speaker 4: I have no question in my mind that that's the case.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, where this is going? Gay, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what character that.

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Speaker 6: I have four thirty nine by the way, at my

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Speaker 6: local croker.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, ten ten cents more for you ha ha.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, weird, I've got You can even sidebar further to

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Speaker 4: a price. Compare columned View and it goes all the

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Speaker 4: way from four to seventy nine to five twenty nine,

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Speaker 4: and all of them say they're out of stock online

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Speaker 4: except for uh one local Kroger. Oh jeez.

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Speaker 2: And this doesn't even take into account the other spices.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna need to make that butter chicken delicious. Not

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Speaker 2: that butter chicken alone. It's not delicious. It just needs

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Speaker 2: a kick, right. Uh. Anyway, thank you so much messenger

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Speaker 2: for calling in. We're gonna move on. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: word from our sponsor, and then we'll be right back

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Speaker 2: with more messages from you.

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Speaker 3: Guys. We've returned in. Before we do the last act

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Speaker 3: of our weekly listener mail segment, wanted to share some

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Speaker 3: breaking news. The world's largest aircraft carrier, which Uncle Sam owns,

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00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: has been deployed to the Caribbean. This may not be

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Speaker 3: the best time to get a Bemeny road address. Is

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Speaker 3: this a negotiation tactic? Is this, as many of our

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00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realists have asked us earlier, is this a

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Speaker 3: move toward a upcoming war. I've got to tell you

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Speaker 3: a shout out to Chance who asked us the following.

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Speaker 3: The bottom line for starting a war to secure the

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Speaker 3: democratic erosion of the United States government seems pretty far fetched,

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Speaker 3: but does it? These carriers are serious business, you guys.

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Speaker 3: You can't just willy nilly put them around, or can you?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, can you?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: And something's been really helpful for me to visualize. This

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Speaker 2: is our little journey we took on a cruise liner.

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Speaker 2: If you just imagine the size of that thing, right,

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Speaker 2: the weight of it, you know, how fast it can travel.

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Speaker 2: I'm imagining now just the sheer, size and speed of

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Speaker 2: an aircraft carrier. And how long it takes to deploy

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Speaker 2: something like that. I'm assuming Ben, it would take a

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to see for sure. That has nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with anything. It's just breaking news on November twelfth,

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Speaker 3: and we'll see how it goes. There may be an

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Speaker 3: episode about war in the future spoiler not to be

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00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: too judge holden about it, but there's always war. It's

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Speaker 3: a very human thing. Let's go, let's go to Miro

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Speaker 3: from Canada and Miro, you specifically yet something that's stuck

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Speaker 3: out regarding food price conspiracies a recent episode we did

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Speaker 3: that I believe speaks to our earlier conversation. So, Miro,

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Speaker 3: you say, I'm catching up on your podcast and regarding

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Speaker 3: your episode about the food price conspiracy, you guys mentioned

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Speaker 3: price controls. I am currently traveling in Europe and several

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Speaker 3: of the countries I've been in have this same issue.

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Speaker 3: They have tried price controls, specifically Serbia, Hungary and Romania.

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Speaker 3: The ultimate outcome is prices drop for a month or two,

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Speaker 3: and then prices return to their heavily inflated levels after

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Speaker 3: another month or two transpires a two month drop two

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Speaker 3: months later tickety boo, which I said, not you, Miro,

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Speaker 3: I just like the phrase. So multiple people, you say, Miro,

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Speaker 3: have told me that essentially, when price controls are brought in,

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Speaker 3: the logical outcome is an election is around the corner.

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Speaker 3: As multiple times they've been done for a government to

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Speaker 3: maintain support or regain support through an act of propaganda.

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Speaker 3: Now I want to pause there. That's why I'm set

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00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: there's a method to the madness. That's why I'm setting

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Speaker 3: up the idea of war before an election, or to

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Speaker 3: stop an election. Price controls could be a very similar thing.

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Speaker 3: In Miro, you are telling us that locals told you

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Speaker 3: this happens before elections in European countries. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it reminds me of our gas prices conversations. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's one thing here in the United States, for anyone unfamiliar,

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Speaker 3: that's one thing that always goes to the forefront. In

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Speaker 3: recent decades, you got an independent, a Democrat, or Republican

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Speaker 3: running against each other. Whomever is currently you know, King

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Speaker 3: You of the Hill at the White House is going

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Speaker 3: to get what are those dumb political words they use

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Speaker 3: in both articles, snow compound over gas prices.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all that sounds dirty, especially the October surprise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. I could see that as a thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've personally seen it here in

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Speaker 2: the US though, just but I know that though the

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Speaker 2: talking points become look how low the gas is right now,

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Speaker 2: Look how great the stock market is right now and

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Speaker 2: all that, So you need to vote for the incumbent

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Speaker 2: whoever's in.

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Speaker 3: There, right. Yeah, those are two distinct examples. So the

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Speaker 3: gas price thing happens more often in the United States.

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00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: The grocery store or the food price thing. That grift

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00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: occurs more often with our friends across the pond. And

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00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: the reason it can't really occur here is because entering

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Speaker 3: in price controls in the modern political climate for the

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00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: United States would be political suicide for anyone proposing it.

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Speaker 3: It would have too many shades of Soviet era stuff

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00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 3: that could be weaponized against anybody acting in good faith.

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00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: We do know that there have been price controls in

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Speaker 3: the United States time and time again historically. Let's think

784
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: about you know, let us never forget our favorite secret

785
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: cheese cave, right, let us never forget price controls put

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00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: on things that went the wrong way in US history,

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00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 3: like the Great Depression. You know, we had people pouring

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00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: out milk. We had people slaughtering pigs in the countryside

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00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: while innocent folks starved in the cities. It's just it's

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00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: a very dangerous game. It's very It's like if mousetrap

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00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: wasn't fun, and I don't know how much fun mousetrap was.

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00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: It takes forever to set up.

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Speaker 4: I always just like triggering it. I never actually played

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00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: the game once, I don't think. But Ben, is this

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Speaker 4: figure in any way, this idea of price control into

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00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: like all of the hullaballoo made about what the FED

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00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: does and a lot of like pressure on the FED

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00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: to lower interest rates? And is that a form of

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Speaker 4: price control? Is it effective?

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Speaker 3: It's a great question, and I love to oppose you

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00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 3: this because maybe if we think through analogy of FED,

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00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: the Federal control of the basic rate, the lay of

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Speaker 3: the land financially, the FED control there is less like

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Speaker 3: directly controlling the cost of a commodity, good, or service.

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00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: Think of those as individual faucets, and the Fed's control

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00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: of the rate determines the water pressure. I am weirdly

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Speaker 3: in love with that analogy.

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Speaker 4: It is so imperfect well that it's the closest I've

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Speaker 4: come to wrapping my head around, and so thank you.

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Speaker 3: They change the water pressure, that's it, and empires rise

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Speaker 3: and fall off of it. I don't want to sound

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00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: too specifically on one side or another, but I think

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Speaker 3: we can all agree that price controls in an unnuanced

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00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 3: way can be disastrous, especially if antitrust laws hold. Now,

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Speaker 3: if we're entering an era similar to the Gilded Age,

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00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: right where one entity can control all of a given

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00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 3: thing in a market, then maybe price controls do need

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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: to exist, you know, and unfortunately this country is rapidly

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00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: heading toward that horizon.

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Speaker 2: You do we need, guys, we need two thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a month for every American?

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Speaker 3: Is it every month or is a one month every month? Yeah,

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00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 3: but that doesn't make economic sense because we're talking after

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00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time, that's going to be more

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00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: expensive than the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Huh Oh, that's weird.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand money.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we should have to understand money. It

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Speaker 3: is a religion and.

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Speaker 4: A ten thousand dollars bonus every air traffic controller that

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Speaker 4: didn't ask questions?

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Speaker 2: How about forty three thousand from every member of ICE.

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00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: And a chicken in every pot, just like we said

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Speaker 3: during the Great Depression, which was awesome. Nobody will look

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Speaker 3: that up. Yeah, thanks, Still in two thousand ben bucks negotiable,

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00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: negotiable at your point of sale, point of origin, folks.

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Speaker 3: We want to hear from you. We want to hear

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00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 3: your experience, especially if you haven't, if you've lived other

839
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: in places that are not the US. We want to

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00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 3: hear your experience with price controls. We want to hear

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00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: your experience with the current debacle that we talked about

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00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: in a previous Strange News segment, the ongoing debate regarding

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00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: food assistance to Americans, especially innocent Americans children, forty two

844
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Speaker 3: million people who have Thanksgiving right around the corner. Tell

845
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: us what you think. Please feel free to be absolutely honest.

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00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: We would love to hear from you if you are

847
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: for it, if you're against it. Why we want to

848
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 3: know what you think about shrinkflation. That's a huge thing.

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00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: That's a little sneakier than a straight up price hike.

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Speaker 3: We can't wait for you to tell us your experience

851
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 3: with these episodes and what's going on in your neck

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00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: of the global woods. And guys, gents, my fellow Americans,

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00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: if it's okay, I would like for us to end

854
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: listener mail on a real quick letter from home. Oh please,

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Speaker 3: Aging Ginger writes to us, Yeah, and is accidentally in

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Speaker 3: our heads, or at least a mind from a weird

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00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: pitch a few years ago. Gentlemen, says Aging Ginger, I

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Speaker 3: truly hope this email doesn't get me blacklisted. I just

859
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: had a thought, as we are headed into the holiday season,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't it be a most excellent time for you all

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Speaker 3: to pick up a show sponsorship from Reynold's Aluminum foil

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Speaker 3: what strictly tongue in cheek yours, cheekily aging.

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Speaker 2: Ginger, didn't we try that or we want it?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I just I don't know, we think I think,

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Speaker 3: uh well, we were first pitching that to each other.

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Speaker 3: We had that moment where, uh so we're we're not

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Speaker 3: the average bears, right, so we're cut from a different cloth,

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Speaker 3: and that sometimes works for us, and it sometimes puts

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Speaker 3: thinking specifically, at the time, we pitched a little bit

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Speaker 3: but someone who told us, you, guys, blue Sky it

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Speaker 3: anything is up, anything, just give us your best ideas.

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Speaker 2: And they loved the idea too, right, They loved it

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Speaker 3: We if I love it. I recall that after we

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Speaker 3: guys again, if you look at the earlier email, we

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Speaker 3: And we were like, yeah, who doesn't use timfoil?

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Speaker 2: Okay, look, we got a couple of assignments for you.

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Speaker 2: We said it at the top of this episode. Please

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Speaker 2: leave us a review wherever you're listening to this. The

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Speaker 2: second assignment, go to our Instagram Conspiracy Stuff Show and

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Speaker 2: go back to March seventeenth, twenty twenty three and watch

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Speaker 2: the reel that features our own mister Ben Bolin with

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Speaker 2: a lot of aluminum foil. It's incredible. It is worth

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Speaker 3: It's a commercial that did not make it to the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, but we hope you enjoy it. We also

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Speaker 2: We have a phone number and you could call it

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Speaker 2: three std WYTK Quick story. Guys, love that we're talking

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Speaker 2: about aluminum foil. My son and I have been listening

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Speaker 2: to a lot of weird al lately. Guess what our

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Speaker 4: Alluminum fi Yes, it is an incredible song.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you call in tell us your favorite weird

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Speaker 2: as song or your favorite song related to aluminum foil.

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Speaker 2: If you want to do that, you can told you

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Speaker 2: how to do it. If you want to send us

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Speaker 3: We are the entities that read each piece of correspondence

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Speaker 3: we receive. Now, folks went over a lot of stuff today.

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Speaker 3: I would love to hear your favorite kind of specific

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