1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: Welcome in, It's the Herd. I'm Danny Parkins in for 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: the great Colin cow Herd. Hey let me come back, 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: presented burn the place down completely yesterday. The schedule is 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: that I'll be in tomorrow as well. We'll see how 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: the next three hours goes. Appreciate you watching, Appreciate you listening. 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: We've got a great show for you. Ayj Perzinski gonna 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: join us in about twenty five minutes. Jeff Schwartz, Ben Owen, 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: and my guy Nick Wrights Nickel. Maybe a bit it's 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: being wrong in a sports cover for the first time ever. 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Coming up in just over an hour. They'll probably not. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: I'll defend my ranking of Justin Herbert in just a 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: few minutes. But I'd like to begin by talking about 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: the biggest boomer Bus team in the NFL this year, 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: and that is the Pittsburgh Steelers, because man, I get 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: why they made the move, but I right off the top, 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: I'm going to make a confession if I give the 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: Steelers the vote of confidence, and I am. I like 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: what they've done this offseason. It's actually made sense to me. 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: I have to also admit to you, for the last 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: four years consecutively, I have predicted that the Steelers would 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: have their first losing season under Mike Tomlin, and I've 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: been wrong time and time and time and time again. 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: So now I'm like, I think this is a playoff team. 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: I think this team could win a playoff game. I 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers is a little cuckoo, but he's objectively 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: better than Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett and Duck Hodges 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: and Mitch Trubisky. Like I agree with the conventional wisdom. 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: If Mike Tomlin can get you a winning record with 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: those quarterbacks, he should be able to do better with 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. But I think that's just the tip of 40 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: the iceberg here. I thought that when he signed that 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: contract and it was a weird number and he signed 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: for thirteen million bucks. I was like, there's more coming. 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: They're not done. And then they made the huge trade 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: with Ramsey and John hus Smith and they upgraded their squad. 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: And I think the John hu Smith, while not the 46 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: sex of your name, that is the move that really 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: does create some versatility for their offense. DK Metcalf true 48 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 3: number one. Play your twelve personnel with your two tight ends. 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: With Friarmuth and John Husmith on the field, they can 50 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: block for Aaron because I don't know if you've heard, 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: he's on the wrong side of forty jalen Orn. I 52 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: actually think is an upgrade in the backfield from naj Harris. 53 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: I think that there is a real opportunity here for 54 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: this offense to be good. They won't be top five 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL, but a good offense. And then when 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: you combine that with we know all the talent they 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: have on defense and the excellent regular season coaching that 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: they get, I think it made a lot of sense. 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: But we all would agree also that it's boom or bust. 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: And it feels like, based on what Aaron Rodgers has said, 61 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: this is a one shot deal, one year contract. He's 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: a mercenary. He got married. He says, what I'm done 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: with football, you'll never see or hear from me again. 64 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: I have my doubts. The guy said he loves privacy 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: and then invited a documentary crew with him into the wilderness. 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: So I got my doubts. But we'll see. And as 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: for now, it seems like a one year hired gun situation. 68 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: The Steelers general manager Omar Kahn, who's on with Rich Eisen, 69 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: he was asked about it. He said, it might be 70 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: a little more than that. Obviously, you know, we have 71 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: to see how the season goes. 72 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: But I absolutely you know, he's a young forty one, 73 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: and you know we're obviously taking it year by year, 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: and that's where we're at. 75 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: So I assume this is a one year deal. And 76 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: my question though, is, let's say I'm wrong again about 77 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers and they're not as good as they clearly 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: think they can be. Because you only do this if 79 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: you think you can end you're going on nine year 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: playoff drought without a playoff win. That's the only reason 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: you sign up for the circus. That is Aaron Rodgers, 82 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: for the appearances, for the offseason, for the three month 83 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: holding pattern, for all of it, right, because you believe 84 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: your team is ready to win multiple playoff games in January, 85 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: and this is the missing piece. It's the only reason 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: you sign up for the circus if they're wrong, and 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: then I guess if I'm wrong, And this is the 88 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: first losing season under Mike Tomlin, and it is like 89 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: the Jets season last year and they win six seven 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: games are non competitive against good teams. Aaron Rodgers is 91 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: not even a top fifteen or twenty quarterback in the NFL. 92 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: Is there any scenario where the heat shifts to Mike Tomlin? 93 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they're going to fire him, because 94 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: clearly the Steelers don't fire anyone. It's maybe the single 95 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: most unbelievable fact in all of football that in the 96 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: history of the Pittsburgh Steelers they've had three head coaches. 97 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: It's remarkable. But if I just told you that a 98 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: head coach, it had been eight seasons since they had 99 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: won a playoff game, and in that time they were 100 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: zero to five in the postseason. And in that time 101 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: he had had five offensive coordinators and eight different starting quarterbacks, 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: and as the defensive coach in those playoff games, he's 103 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: given up forty plus to Blake Bortles and Baker Mayfield 104 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: and getting boat raced by Patrick Mahomes and it's like, 105 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, some of these are great quarterbacks, some 106 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: of these are not. Some of these you were favored, 107 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: some of these you weren't. You're a thirteen win team, 108 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: you bounced immediately in the postseason. Any other coach and 109 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: any other organization would be on the hot seat. And 110 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: again they won't fire him. But if it doesn't work 111 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: with Rogers and Tomlin becomes more of the reputation of 112 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: high floor, low ceiling, he can only win big if 113 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: he has a Hall of Fame quarterback in his prime. 114 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: They're always going to be too good to draft one 115 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: because he will have you at eight or nine wins 116 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: as a floor. So what is his path to getting 117 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: Drew Aller or Arch Manning or a top five Piket quarterback? 118 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: And they'll just be in this middle purgatory space in 119 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: the NFL with nowhere to go from here. So I 120 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: think this is going to work, and they'll win ten 121 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: to eleven games, maybe win a playoff game, Like that's 122 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: my definition of working. They're not a super Bowl team. 123 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: I don't think that they have that high of a ceiling. 124 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: But I think they're a double digit win team that 125 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: can win one playoff game and end that drought. But 126 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: then the question is, and then what, Because the whole 127 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: thing is the standard is the standard? Excellence is the standard? 128 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: Ten wins in a Wild's card win is not excellence. 129 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: And then they're still in the exact same situation they 130 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: found themselves in coming out of last year with no 131 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: long term answer at quarterbacks. So while I expect success, 132 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: the much more interesting questions is what happens if there's failure. 133 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: The pushback I got yesterday from my top ten quarterback 134 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: list was mostly from Eagles fans who are upset, and 135 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: I respect it and love it, and it's a passionate 136 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: fan base, but it was also centered around my guy, 137 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. And I will fully admit to you that 138 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: I sit down on my couch on Sundays and I 139 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: just watch eleven straight hours of football, and then I 140 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: watch Monday night and Thursday night, and I watch all 141 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: these games, and then I rewatched them and all that, 142 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: and I come from it from more of the analytical 143 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: and number side, but then I just actually love watching 144 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: the games. I don't fancy myself a scout anything like that. 145 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: But I will say Justin Herbert passes the eye test 146 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: as much as any quarterback I've ever seen. I am 147 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: just so utterly convinced that this dude is a superstar, 148 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: and that he has been the victim of Anthony Lynn 149 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: and Brandon Staley and bad special teams misses and incompetence 150 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: and terrible injury luck around him, and two bad playoff games, 151 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: one terrible comeback allowed by the Jaguars, and then last 152 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: year the four interceptions against the Texans. Can't sugarcoat it, though. 153 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: Two of those interceptions were off his receiver's hands and 154 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: there was a bit of a snowball effect there. But 155 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: I watched this guy and I am just convinced that 156 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: he's one of the best players in football. And if 157 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: he was just in a better situation, everybody would know 158 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: that and it would become conventional wisdom. And now they 159 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: hire a true winner in Jim Harbaugh. Last year, Justin 160 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: Herbert has over five hundred pass attempts, which was down 161 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: because hardball likes to run the ball, but he had 162 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: over five hundred pass attempts and three interceptions. He had 163 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: more interceptions in that one playoff loss than he had 164 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: all season. It was a true outlier, worst case scenario performance. 165 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: And so I'm trusting my eyes on this one and 166 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: a belief in Harbaugh. They were the number one scoring 167 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: defense last year. They draft Hampton, they're going to upgrade 168 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: the rushing attack. I love the pick of Trey Harris, 169 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: the deep threat, speedster form on the outside. Maconkey's a 170 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: stud arguably the best tackle duo in the NFL outside 171 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: of Philadelphia. Detroit might have something to say about it, 172 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: but it's a top three tackle duo in the NFL 173 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: at a minimum. This is the year, and this is 174 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: the year for what you say. This is the year 175 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: for Justin Herbert to stay on the Peyton Manning track. 176 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning was in a bit of the wilderness early 177 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: in his career, different coaches, a bunch of interceptions, no 178 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: playoff success, and if you study it, and I know 179 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: some people will say different era of the NFL in 180 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: terms of volume of passing, and that is true. But again, 181 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: a guy in Peyton who clearly passed the eye test 182 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: but didn't have the team's success early on in his career. 183 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: If you look at years one through five of Peyton 184 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: and years one through five of Justin Herbert. It is 185 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: shocking how identical it is. Herbert forty one and thirty 186 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: eight win loss record, Peyton forty two and thirty eight, 187 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: both of them winless in the playoffs. Herbert owen two 188 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: through five years, Manning oho to three. Their team scored 189 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: twenty four points per game. They threw basically the same 190 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: number of touchdown passes one thirty seven to one thirty 191 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: eight through five years in their career. And again, I 192 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: understand more passing in today's football than then, but the 193 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: playoff numbers were also remarkably similar in terms of the 194 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: types of struggles, more interceptions than touchdowns, lower pass or rating, 195 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: lower completion percentage in the playoffs versus the regular season. 196 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: But in year five Peyton got Doungeee. In year five 197 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: Herbert got Harbaugh and things started to change. And in 198 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: year six for Peyton, he's co MVP of the league, 199 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: He's in the AFC Championship game, he's you know, forty 200 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: two hundred yards, They're scoring twenty eight points per game. 201 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: It was the arrival of the Peyton Manning that became 202 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: one of the greatest to ever throw a football. And 203 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: I will be holding Justin Herbert to that standard. This 204 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: is the last stand because I fully acknowledge at some 205 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: point the results need to be there in terms of 206 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: team's success. But I am as convinced today as I 207 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: was after his rookie year when he set the NFL 208 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: record for touchdown passes as a rookie with thirty one. 209 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: This is a Hall of Fame level talents. And I thought, 210 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: what Jim Harbaugh said over the weekend is how I 211 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: felt about the entire Chargers organization ever since they lucked 212 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 3: into Miami drafting Tua over him. The rest of you 213 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: got to catch up to that guy. 214 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: This is from the heart, This is the truth, justin. 215 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: Herbert's biggest weakness is all of those that he's counting 216 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 6: on on offense, coaches, offensive line playmakers, receivers, running backs. 217 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 3: To get up to his level. 218 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: You know. That's that's that's I wake up every day 219 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 6: to try to get to his level. So if you 220 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 6: put us as the as the number one duel, I 221 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 6: mean it's. 222 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: Ninety just ten amen, Amen. Peyton. Manning was the system. 223 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: He went to four super Bowls with four different head coaches. 224 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: That was what it was. He got to a place 225 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: where he had such dominance and such control of the 226 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: game that wherever he went, he was the system. I 227 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: think Justin Herbert can do that and is on his 228 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: way to doing that. And if the rest of the Chargers, 229 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: which I expect them to under Harbaugh, catch up to 230 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: him just a bit, don't put the shackles on him. 231 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: Let him throw, work off your run game, work off 232 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: your defense, and let that guy be one of the 233 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: best throwers of the football that I've ever seen. I 234 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: think he's absolutely in the running for the MVP, and 235 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: I think they're absolutely in the running to win playoff 236 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: games this year, even being in the division with the 237 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. I expect Justin Herbert to stay on 238 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: the Peyton Manning track by the end of this football season. 239 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: AJ Persinskke you going to join us coming up in 240 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: about ten minutes. Luka, Doncic is looking good. There is 241 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. We saw the pictures yesterday on 242 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: the show. But my god, some of you are overreacting 243 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: and golageous. Oh little nuts, that's next. I'm a hurts. 244 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 245 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: and neon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 246 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 247 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 7: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 248 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 7: five to seven pm Eastern. 249 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 250 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 7: We never have enough time to get to everything we 251 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 7: want to get to. 252 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called 253 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in 254 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: our two hour show. 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It's gonna be the best after show podcast 270 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 7: of all time. 271 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: There you go, over promising and remember you could see 272 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: on YouTube, but definitely join us listen over Promised with 273 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 274 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcasts. 275 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Herd. I'm Danny Parkins in for 276 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: Colin rank my top ten NFL teams heading into the 277 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: season coming up in just over twenty minutes. Then Nick 278 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: Wright will join the show from First Things First. Very 279 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: much looking forward to doing that and looking forward to 280 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: joining First Things First as they expand to three hours 281 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: coming up this football season. But yesterday I think I 282 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: showed the power of the Lakers and the power of 283 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: late July that a magazine cover could come out that 284 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: is straight pr and everyone would go insane, Like Luka 285 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: Doncic was on the cover of Men's Health, and Luka 286 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: Doncic looks shredded. He looks like skinny Luca and you 287 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: put those pictures up. And we've seen him a little 288 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: bit this offseason. We saw him with the Yankees, We've 289 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 3: seen him out and about a little bit. He's like, Oh, 290 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: Luka Doncic figured out what a barbell was, he learned 291 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 3: about intermittent fasting. He apparently is drinking less and smoking 292 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: less hookah and you know, being a professional athlete, and 293 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's, oh my god, professional athlete 294 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: works out in the off season. And I guess I 295 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: didn't fully realize that in a year where Luca was 296 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: traded and arguably the craziest trade in NBA history, when 297 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: he had a significant calf strain that is often a 298 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: precursor if you do not fully heal it to blowing 299 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: out your achilles see Tyrese Halliburton. And he took his 300 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: time coming back from that, and it had an impact 301 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: on his conditioning, appearance, all of those things. I feel 302 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: like people forgot who Luka Doncic was. Like, Luca is awesome, 303 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: and I love Chris Broussard and I can't wait to 304 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: chop it up with him more on the regular on 305 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: first things First, But when we had him on Heard yesterday, 306 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: you would have thought that Luka Doncic was reborn based 307 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: on these pictures. 308 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 8: When I saw this article, saw how Luca looked, read 309 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 8: it about you know, how he's changed and this summer's 310 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 8: different for him. I gave a big shout out to 311 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 8: Lebron James, like this, this is a testament to Lebron 312 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 8: James's example and the impact it had on Luka doncis. 313 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 5: I think he played with. 314 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 8: Lebron and saw wow, as much physical ability as Lebron has, 315 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 8: as much natural ability, as much size and strength and 316 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 8: athleticism as Lebron has naturally, he goes above and beyond 317 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 8: to become the player he is. 318 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: Even though Luca didn't say that in the article. And 319 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: maybe this is a little media insight, but getting a 320 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: magazine cover it's not that difficult for a list superstar 321 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: athletes and celebrities like this was a puff piece. This 322 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: was the superstar athlete equivalent of, like you ever break 323 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: up with someone and then hit the weights because you 324 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: want to have that revenge. Look be you know New 325 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: Year knew me. Luca got dissed by the Mavericks. They 326 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: leaked a bunch of stuff to the media about his professionalism, 327 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: and he's putting this out there to show him what 328 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: they missed. This is the superstar athlete equivalent of getting 329 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: dumped working out and then posting a shirtless pick with 330 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: pecks and biceps on Instagram, something I would know nothing about, 331 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: not because I've never been dumped, but because I have 332 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: no biceps or pecks. But the poise this the point 333 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: is people forget that Luka Doncic. I mean people act 334 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: like the guy doesn't play basketball. Before last year seventy 335 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: games played, sixty six games played, sixty five games played, 336 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: sixty six games, sixty one seventy two plus his international schedule, 337 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: Luka Doncic plays basketball a lot. Really, Oh, now that 338 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: Luka Doncic is intermittent fasting and doing bicep curls, I'm 339 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: gonna bet him for MVP. Luca was already a really 340 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: safe favorite type of bet for MVP. We have saw 341 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: him two seasons ago carry the Dallas Mavericks to the 342 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: NBA Finals. We have seen him average thirty four nine 343 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: to ten in a season two years ago. Like list 344 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: of best players in the NBA, whatever your order is, Jokic, SGA, 345 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: Jannis Tatum, Luca, I know Lebron was six and MVP voting. 346 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: I know Donovan Mitchell was first team All NBA, but 347 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: Luca didn't play enough games to qualify. He was traded 348 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. He had the cap injury. 349 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: It was weird year, but I think most people would 350 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: agree that Luka Doncic is in the conversation for being 351 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: a top five player in the world, So good for 352 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: the professional athlete working out in the offseason. Maybe he'll 353 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: start a little faster, but he's not gonna get better 354 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: at defense. And I don't think it's possible for him 355 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: to get much better at basketball than averaging thirty three 356 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: nine to ten. So I'm just a little confused as 357 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: to what we're talking about here. I it's pr it's spin, 358 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: it's image control, it's damage control. It it doesn't have 359 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: to be anything more than that. And I am just 360 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: I expect even if Luka Doncic, I would have seen 361 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: him at the Hookah Bar, if that would have been 362 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: the thing, if he would have been on the cover 363 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: of instead of Men's Health, he would have been on 364 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: the cover of Hookah magazine. I would be like, man, 365 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: Luca could win MVP next year because he's Luka Dodgic, 366 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: that the talent is enough where he can win MVP. 367 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 3: But Men's Health is apparently supposed I didn't know. I 368 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: didn't know being on the cover of Men's Health was 369 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: supposed to change the way that we all felt about 370 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: one of the five greatest offensive players in the sport 371 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: and arguably one of the five greatest all around players 372 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: in the sport because he's doing bicep curls and shoving 373 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: all of his meals into eight hours a day. But 374 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: I'm learning things as we go throughout this life. I 375 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: wanted to change gears here a little bit and talk 376 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: about an honor the life of Ryan Sandberg, the Hall 377 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: of Famer from the Chicago Cubs, who passed away yesterday 378 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: at sixty five years old. And I knew Rhino a bit, 379 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you my connection to him in a second. 380 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: But he was a larger than life figure in Chicago. 381 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: He was the reason why many men, many people in 382 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: Chicago and frankly around the world, became Cubs fans. When 383 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: he won his MVP award in nineteen eighty four, the 384 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: Cubs had not been to the playoffs in thirty nine years, 385 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: and so he wins that MVP there on WGN the superstation, 386 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 3: and people are watching Wrigley Fields come to life, and 387 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: this incredibly professional ballplayer. It's a cliche, play the game 388 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: the right way. He was just a model of consistency, 389 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: and he was He was a humble superstar. And people say, 390 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: never meet your heroes I was a little young for 391 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Sandberg to be a sports hero of mine. But 392 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: my older brother was significant, was sixteen years older than me, 393 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: and he actually he married someone whose father was very 394 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: close to Ryan Sandberg. And so when I was the 395 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: best man in my brother's wedding at fifteen years old, 396 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 3: Ryan Sandberg was at the wedding, and so I gave 397 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: a best man speech at the wedding, and I didn't 398 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: talk to Ryan Sandberg about it at the wedding. But 399 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: many years later, when I'm doing media in Chicago, and 400 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: Rhino would come on the show and he was a 401 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: Cub's ambassador, and he would do things. He would say, 402 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: you know, Margaret really liked your toast. Margaret was his wife, 403 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: and I'd be like, well, what about you, Rhino. He 404 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: was like, Margaret really liked your toast. Like he just 405 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: had this subtle ability. People who knew him better said 406 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: he was a prankster. He didn't really give off the 407 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 3: hilarious image too much publicly, but if you knew him 408 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: a little bit, he would. But the thing about him 409 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: was he just loved being a Cub and he loved 410 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: Cubs fans, and so people would come up to him 411 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: all the time and pay him a compliment, and he 412 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: would always give them the time of the day, ask 413 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: them their name, ask them about him. And I went 414 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: back and yeah, So this picture that we're showing now 415 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: on FS one. It was crazy because about this time 416 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: last year, Ryan Sandberg came on the radio because I 417 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: do this cancer event in partnership with the Cubs called 418 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: Cubs for a Cure, where I broadcast for twenty four 419 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: hours straight. It's coming up in two days on Thursday 420 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: on the Score in Chicago, and Ryan Sandberg came in 421 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 3: because we knew he had been battling cancer, and he 422 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: very emotionally announced that just that morning he had had 423 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: a scan that was clear and his doctor said he 424 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: was cancer free, and he cried and it made national 425 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: news and we raised over a million dollars that weekend 426 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: with all of it going to cancer research. And we 427 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: took that picture. That's the president of Business for the Cubs, 428 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: Crane Kenny, with us on the field and it was 429 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: just this like beautiful celebration. And then eleven months later 430 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: he passes away from cancer, and it was just it 431 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: was gut wrenching because people when they talk about him, 432 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: if you didn't know him. You talk about the Sandberg game, 433 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: Bob Costa says it was the best baseball game he 434 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: ever called, and it was unbelievable. You know, he hits 435 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 3: two home runs and the ninth and tenth off Bruce Souiter, 436 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: and you know, the Cubs win twelve eleven and extras. 437 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: And people talk about ten time All Star, nine time 438 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: Gold Gloves, silver Slugger, MVP, whatever it is when they 439 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: say never meet your heroes, and then he actually is 440 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: to so many a sports hero and he's everything you 441 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: want and more. It's just rare. So I wanted to 442 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 3: play a quick bite from his Hall of Fame speech 443 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: because I really think it encompassed how he approached the game, 444 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: but really how he approached life. Here's Rhino I. 445 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 9: Was taught you never ever disrespect your opponent, or your teammates, 446 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 9: or your organization or your manager, and never ever your uniform. 447 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 9: Make a great play, act like you've done it before. 448 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 9: Get a big hit, look for the third base coach, 449 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 9: and get ready to run the bases. Hit a home run, 450 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 9: put your head down, drop the bat, run around the bases. 451 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 9: Because the name on the front is more a lot 452 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 9: more important than the name on the back, that's respect. 453 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 3: I had an opportunity to talk to Ryan Sandberg on 454 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: the radio when it had been announced that he was 455 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: getting a statue at Wrigley Field, and what was the 456 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: position going to be? Was it going to be hitting 457 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: home run from the Sandberg game? Was it going to 458 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: be him turning a double play that he was famous for? 459 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: And he said he thought it was going to be 460 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 3: more about defense, and it ended up just being him 461 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: in the ready position because he just wanted to be 462 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: ready to be a pro, and that encompassed who he 463 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: was lost over. He cut through, He mattered to a 464 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: lot of people. Barack Obama posted a tribute Hall of 465 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: Famer and Cubs stalwart Ryan Sandberg wasn't just a great 466 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: baseball player. He was a class act who never cheated 467 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: the game. Everyone in Chicago, including White Sox fans, will 468 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: miss him deeply, and it's so true. He was a 469 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: humble superstar. He wanted to meet you, he wanted to 470 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 3: talk to you, and he deserved so much more than 471 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: sixty five years of life. Rip Rhino. 472 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd Weekdays 473 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a Empacific. 474 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: Our number two of the Herd. I'm Danny Parkins from 475 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: FS one and soon to be First Things First coming 476 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: at you from LA. I'll be in for Colin tomorrow 477 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: from Chicago. We have Nick right at First Things First 478 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: joining us for his normal appearance coming up in just 479 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, which is truly surreal, I would 480 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: say for both of us, given that the first time 481 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: we ever hosted together was doing a Syracuse Providence basketball 482 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: postgame show on waer In College Radio. So we'll have 483 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: some fun coming up in about five minutes, where I 484 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: assume Nick will just agree with every brilliant thing that 485 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: I say and we'll keep it moving or not. But 486 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: before we get to Nick, we will begin with my 487 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: top ten teams heading in to the upcoming football season, 488 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: because if not now, when and we'll see if Philiberts 489 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: made to feel a little better. Number ten, it's the 490 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: Chargers of Los Angeles. You know what I think of 491 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, You know what everyone thinks of Jim Harbaugh. 492 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: Did you know they were the number one scoring defense 493 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: in the NFL last year? If they just get a 494 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: little bit more explosive on offense, and I think Hampton 495 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: and Harris their two draft picks will help, and year 496 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: two under Harball will help. They take the leap offensively. 497 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: They get a little bit of health luck, which every 498 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: team needs. The Chargers. I expect him back in the 499 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: playoffs and maybe he'd be rising up this list over 500 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: the course of the season. Number nine the Washington Commanders. 501 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: I think better team, worse record, nine to one score 502 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: victories last season. Jayden Daniels is a superstar. I liked 503 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 3: the Tunsil addition. We'll see about Debo and how he fits. 504 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can win that many close 505 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: games again, but I think they got the right coach, 506 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: the right quarterback. Obviously, a tough division with Philly and 507 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Dallas will be better. I think they're a better roster 508 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: and a worse team. Number eight the San Francisco forty 509 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: nine Ers. It's time to bounce back. Brock Perdy, to me, 510 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: should not be quite as polarizing as people make him 511 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: out to be. But he actually impressed me when he 512 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: lost some of the stuff around it. He's not a superstar, 513 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: he's not a top ten quarterback, but in Kyle Shanahan's offense, 514 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: he's got good post that processing. You can get the 515 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: ball out quick, and I think that's enough, assuming the 516 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: rest of their stars stay healthy. Kittle, Trent Williams, and 517 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: namely Christian McCaffrey, who's the key to everything, and frankly 518 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: a cheap code in Kyle Shanahan's offense. Number seven, Just 519 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: be competent on defense, Cincinnati Bengals, your offense is super 520 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: Bowl caliber. You went three and four in games where 521 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: you scored thirty or more points last year. Figure it 522 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: out with Hendrickson. Have Shamar Stewart hit you upgraded at 523 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator because you just had to. In the Super 524 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 3: Bowl era for teams that lost five or more games, 525 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals most points per game and losses. Any 526 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: team they scored twenty eight points per game in their 527 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: losses last year. Just be the twentieth best defense in 528 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: the NFL and you'll be fine. Number six. I can't 529 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: quit this Rams team. I think them in the Niners 530 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: is going to be a great battle all year long. 531 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: Offensive line health concerns me. Stafford's a stud, Mcvey's a stud. 532 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: The Devonte Adams ad is great, and Fisk and verse. 533 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: They didn't have a first round pick this year, but 534 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 3: their draft hit tremendously last year. If you've they're the 535 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: linebacker or the tight end they hit in the second 536 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: and third round. If they can just add one more piece, 537 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: they were the team that gave Philly the best challenge 538 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: really the last four and a half months of football. 539 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: I think they're right there as a contender. Number five. 540 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: Maybe this is too low, but it's the Baltimore Ravens. 541 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: It was a historic offense last year when you combine 542 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: running and passing, but their inability to get it done 543 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: consistently in January, once you get up to this level 544 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: concerns me from the quarterback on down. But this team 545 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: has a legitimate argument for being the best roster in 546 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: the NFL. Hopefully for Ravens fans, this is the year 547 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: they break through number four. But I still have the 548 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: Bills in front of them, both because of their playoff 549 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: his I happen to think Josh Allen is better than 550 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, and they just have been bludgeting people. It's 551 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: the team with the best point differential in the NFL 552 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 3: over a sample of five years, and it's not close. 553 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 3: You'd say, oh, I would assume that would be the Chiefs. 554 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: The Chiefs are third The Ravens are second. They've outscored 555 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: opponents by five hundred and fifty five points in the 556 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: last five years. The Bills have outscored their opponents by 557 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: nearly eight hundred points the last five years. Their regular 558 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: season juggernaut. Can they break through in January? Number three? 559 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: Speaking of a team I can't quit. I think we 560 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: were robbed of a Lions Eagles NFC Championship game last year. 561 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions come in at number three. This offense 562 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: should be electric. I think Ben Johnson is a bigger 563 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: ad for the Bears than he was lost for the Lions. 564 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: If they just had normal bad luck for health on defense, 565 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: we would have seen them in the NFC Championship game 566 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: last year. They gave up thirty one points per game 567 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: their last six games of the year. Injuries caught up 568 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: to them. Number two the Kansas City Chiefs. Their defense 569 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: is electric. They've got the best quarterback, they've got the 570 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: best coach. They've improved their offensive line, especially if they 571 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 3: can stay healthy. They now have a little death where 572 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 3: Shee Rice Hollywood Brown Xavier Worthy played zero snaps together 573 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 3: last season. If the explosiveness can return to the Chiefs offense, 574 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: I expect them back in the Super Bowl. Number one, 575 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles are the best organization with the best roster. 576 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: My guess is Eagles fans will not be nearly as 577 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: happy about this ranking as they were upset about the 578 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts ranking. But winning more than seventeen games and 579 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: rushing for more than three thousand yards, it puts you 580 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: in company with the eighty five Bears, the seventy two Dolphins, 581 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: the ninety eight Broncos, and last year's Eagles team. It's 582 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: a tough combination and it's one that's going to win 583 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: you a ton of football games. There's your top ten 584 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: teams heading in to this football season, which now allows 585 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: us to be joined by my friend and now coworker 586 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: and colleague at First Things First, Nick, Right, Hey, buddy, 587 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: what's up. 588 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 5: What's it going? 589 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: It's going well. 590 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 10: I really liked I really liked your top ten teams, 591 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 10: and I think it's really cool that you were able 592 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 10: to just run back the exact ten teams you loved 593 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 10: last year. 594 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 5: Just add the Washington to it. That's all your. 595 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 10: Teams, and yes, every single one, you're doing the same 596 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 10: thing everyone's doing. You know, who's gonna be good. The 597 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 10: teams that I thought were gonna be good last year. 598 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 10: This is your same list as a year ago at this. 599 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 5: Time of year, plus Washington. 600 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: I did not have the Eagles at one. I did 601 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 3: not have the Eagles winning the division last year. I 602 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: was very wrong about Dallas. So the number one team, 603 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna honor the Super Bowl. I do 604 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for the Bengals and the 605 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 3: Niners to bounce back. You could admit it. It's a perfect list. 606 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 10: Okay, So let's talk about the two teams because I 607 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 10: do find it interesting the two teams that weren't good 608 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 10: last year that you think are gonna be good this year. Okay, 609 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 10: because I have different teams that and your total abandonment 610 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 10: in faith of the Bears is a total topic for 611 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 10: another day. Why will this season be different for the 612 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 10: Bengals than last year? What's one reason? 613 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 3: New defensive coordinator. 614 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 10: I don't know that it's an upgrade. I mean, I 615 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 10: guess that's the hope. I just feel I feel like 616 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 10: the Bengals. I don't know how their offense can't be 617 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 10: better than it was, right, and so maybe it stays equal. 618 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 5: I mean, you are more in the. 619 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 10: Mainstream than I am on the Bengals this year, because 620 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 10: most people seem to think they're a real threat. Last 621 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 10: year was an aberration. They'll get back to being a 622 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 10: contender ish, But I don't see why I would believe that. 623 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 10: I think the defense is maybe going to be worse 624 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 10: than last year, having with Trey Hendrickson not there right now, 625 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 10: I don't know that they had an upgrade at coordinator, 626 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 10: and the offense played basically perfectly last year. 627 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 5: Like so I don't I feel like. 628 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 10: The Bengals are doing have the exact same plan they 629 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 10: had a year ago, except now the guys are more expensive, 630 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 10: and we're supposed to think that's gonna make them better. 631 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 5: I don't buy them for real. 632 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: Well, listen that if you score that many points historically, 633 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 3: you're just supposed to be much better. I'm not saying 634 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 3: that they're going to win the Super Bowl with a 635 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: terrible defense, but if you've got a great offense, you're 636 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 3: supposed to be a better team than last year. I 637 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: figure your biggest beef was going to be with the 638 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: Niners because of your just unrelenting, unflinching stance and hatred 639 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 3: of Brock Purty Well listen. 640 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 10: It's not hatred, but I you know, there's certain things. 641 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 10: It's so interesting where And I asked this question this 642 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 10: morning on What's Right the podcast, which is at what 643 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 10: point does someone's public perception ship from being a hater 644 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 10: to being correctly skeptical. The reason I did not buy 645 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 10: into Brock Purdy when he nearly won MVP and got 646 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 10: his team to overtime of the Super Bowl in twenty 647 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 10: twenty three was very. 648 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 5: Simple, and that you know what. I thought. 649 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 10: It was a such a stack team with such a 650 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 10: brilliant play caller that I had real questions what would 651 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 10: he look like if some of those pieces chipped away? 652 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 10: And then, by the grace of the sports gods, we 653 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 10: got to see exactly what he would look like if 654 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 10: he didn't have all those weapons. And the team finished 655 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 10: what in last place in their division, second to last 656 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 10: in their division, won six seven games, and now everyone's 657 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 10: like just wants to pretend that didn't happen. And you 658 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 10: are more optimistic about the Niners this year than I am. 659 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 10: You're right about that, because I thought they One of 660 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 10: the reasons people and credit you for not being one 661 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 10: of them, it seems are buying into the Broncos so 662 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 10: much is because of two Niners defenders that they took. 663 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 10: The Niners defense lost massive personnel at each and every level. 664 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 10: The wide receiver room right now is super banged up, 665 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 10: and they are desperately relying on Christian McCaffery, who's awesome 666 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 10: but a huge injury risk and the oldest tackle in 667 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 10: the league. And so a lot of folks rationale for 668 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 10: the Niners is they won't be as injured as they 669 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 10: were last year, and my answer is, well, they're not 670 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 10: as deep as they were last year, and I do 671 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 10: think they are one of the more injury risk, you know, 672 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 10: higher injury risk teams. So no, I'm not a Niners 673 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 10: believer for the second consecutive year. 674 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 3: With Kyle Shanahan Christian McCaffrey when they play together, not 675 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: the Kyle Shanahan plays, but when McCaffrey plays for Kyle Shanahan. 676 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They win seventy five percent 677 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: of their games. They're twenty three and eight when McCaffrey 678 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 3: is out there eight and twelve, and he's worth about 679 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: four points per game. It feels to me like that 680 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: coach with that player is a cheat code, which is 681 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: why I am to still believe in them. But if 682 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: we're going to just react to my lists, I know 683 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: you want to, and I know we've done it on FtF, 684 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: We've done it on your couch, We've done it the 685 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 3: text and group chat. Explain to me why Justin Herbert 686 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: isn't the fifth best quarterback in football because he passes 687 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 3: my beautiful eye test. 688 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 10: I mean just because when you are as close to 689 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 10: year ten as you are your rookie year, when you're 690 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 10: the same college recruiting class as Nicky Bosa and the 691 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 10: same draft class as Justin Jefferson, you have to be 692 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 10: judged on what you've actually done, not what you theoretically 693 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 10: could be and what you Justin Herbert sick of fans, 694 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 10: and I think he's a good player. What you guys 695 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 10: all refuse to admit is, for most of you, three 696 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 10: or four of the last five years, you have gone 697 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 10: into the season not just talking about how good Herbert is, 698 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 10: but how good the team is, how dangerous the Chargers are, 699 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 10: how stacked it is. And then the year ends they're mediocre. 700 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 10: He's bad in the big spot and everyone's like he 701 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 10: needs more help her and so, and you said it 702 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 10: last year, they had the number one defense in the NFL. 703 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 10: They had the good offensive line with the now the 704 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 10: highest Maade left tackle in football, Joe al To right tackle, 705 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 10: a great coach, and he could not get out of 706 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 10: his own way against the Texans team that was dying. 707 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 3: To be beaten in his hands. 708 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 5: Nick, you're not kidding, You're not serious, You're not serious. 709 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 5: He was awful. He was awful in that game. 710 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 10: And here is to me, and I'm not, you know, 711 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 10: known as a jail and herdskuy. But what I do 712 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 10: think is fair is last year the Chargers ass Justin 713 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 10: Herbert to be the quarterback that Jalen Hurts was for 714 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 10: Philadelphia in twenty twenty two when they made their first 715 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 10: Super Bowl. 716 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 5: We're gonna run the ball, We're. 717 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 10: Gonna throw it sparingly, we're gonna play great defense, don't 718 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 10: turn it over, and three or four times a game 719 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 10: in the playoffs, make big plays. And Jalen Hurts executed 720 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 10: that exact playbook almost flawlessly, to the tune of playing 721 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 10: neck and neck to Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Justin 722 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 10: Herbert was asked to do that and had one of 723 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 10: the worst games of his life against the Texans and 724 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 10: folks just want to pretend it didn't happen. We've seen 725 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 10: Herbert play in three either playoff or winner take all games, 726 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 10: because the Week eighteen game against the Raiders couple of 727 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 10: years a few years ago, and he has been bad 728 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 10: in all three of them, and he's five. 729 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 5: Years into his career. 730 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 10: I know he's talented, I know he throws a beautiful ball, 731 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 10: but at some point it has to be about what 732 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 10: you've actually accomplished. And even though I'm not the biggest 733 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 10: Jalen Hurts guy in the world, having Herbert ahead of 734 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 10: Hurtz and. 735 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 5: Stafford is mortifying and it. 736 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 10: Makes you question why do we actually play the games like. 737 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 3: Real quick? If the trade was offered Jalen Hurts for 738 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. 739 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 5: The Eagles would say, no, you're out. 740 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 3: Of your minds, You're out, You're out of your mind. 741 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: The guy is more talented. He would be able to 742 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: hand the ball off to Saquon Barkley just like Jalen 743 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 3: Hurts Cain, and instead of quarterbacks they would just Aj 744 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 3: Brown and Devonte Smith Moore. 745 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 10: Can I ask you can I let's stay here? Then 746 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 10: do you think if we're going to play in this 747 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 10: make believe world that last year, if Jalen Hurts was 748 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 10: the Chargers quarterback, they would have beaten the Texans, because 749 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 10: I do if you got Texans, no hold on, because 750 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 10: the only because the only reason they lost was the 751 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 10: four interceptions? 752 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 5: Would they have justin Herbert? 753 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 3: That was an outlier, terrible game. The guy threw over 754 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 3: five hundred passes in the regular season and had three interceptions. 755 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 5: Right, But Danny, that doesn't mean something. Danny, if you 756 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 5: if you. 757 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 10: Went before, you go back to the first time you 758 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 10: were filling in for Colin, if you had never, if 759 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 10: you had never dropped an F bomb in your entire 760 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 10: the entire year of doing live radio, and then and 761 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 10: then in the first hour of doing the Herd you 762 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 10: dropped three. 763 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 5: Would that be bad luck? Or would that be ooh, 764 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 5: the moment got to them? 765 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 3: Your coward level analogies. That's fine, but you follow. 766 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 10: Like the and so I don't agree with you that 767 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 10: they eat now. I do think that if you didn't 768 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 10: have a team built yet like you were, that's a 769 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 10: different question. Would the Eagles trade Herbert for Hurts is 770 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 10: a different question than I am starting a team from scratch. 771 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 10: What player do I think is more malleable. 772 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 3: It is okay, But if we're doing a top ten list, 773 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: if every player was available to be drafted, yeah, thirty 774 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 3: two general managers. 775 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 10: Justine wouldn't take Herbert fifth, but you certainly wouldn't take 776 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 10: him fifth. 777 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 3: You would take it before Jalen Hurts. 778 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 10: Maybe maybe, but that's then hes okay, So he at 779 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 10: some point again, the accomplishment much must matter, that's first 780 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 10: of all, and second of all, you can't by that metric. Danny, though, 781 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 10: who would you take ahead? I don't know if anybody 782 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 10: would take him. If we're talking about for long term, 783 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 10: would take him ahead of Jayden Daniels. And if we're 784 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 10: talking about for short Duram would take him ahead of 785 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 10: Matt Stafford. So like, you just love him, You'll never 786 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 10: quit him, You've always loved him, and just the audience 787 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 10: needs to know, like for some reason, you're a justin 788 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 10: Herbert guy. 789 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 5: It's a weird guy. It's a weird thing, but it's fine. 790 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 3: All right, speaking of a guy who is one of 791 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 3: your guys, but I feel like he should be everybody's guy. 792 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 3: Professional athlete works out in off season. I didn't know 793 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 3: was worthy of a cover story, Like why are people 794 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 3: rushing to bet Luka Doncic for MVP, like you, I've 795 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,720 Speaker 3: seen the guy carry a team to the NBA Finals 796 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: and average thirty three to nine to ten. He all read, 797 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 3: didn't I didn't know that public opinion on him had 798 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 3: slid so much that we were that we were doubting 799 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, that I needed to see him intermittent fast. 800 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: I guess I missed that. 801 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 10: Oh, you're watching too many old justin Herbert at Orgon, 802 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 10: because that's where the whole media has been. 803 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 3: That's insane. 804 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 10: Luka Doncic in the span of ten months, went from 805 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 10: in like the probably the first person named in the 806 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 10: after joke or who's the best player in the league 807 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 10: discussion to basically a past his prime, fat alcoholic in 808 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 10: the public eye. 809 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 5: And it's really unbelievable. 810 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 10: Twelve months ago today, not a person in the world 811 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 10: thought Shay or Anthony Edwards was better than him, And 812 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 10: then prior to this cover story, it seemed like everyone 813 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 10: had just decided Shay and Anthony Edwards were better than him. 814 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 10: I listen, Luke. The amount of Luca had a down year. 815 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 10: It coincided with the first major injury of his career. 816 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 10: A truly I think traumatic event in being traded that 817 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 10: shocked him and threw him off, and he was and he. 818 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 5: Was out of shape, but it came on. 819 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 10: The heels of the best season regular and post of 820 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 10: his life. Where as you mentioned, he won the scoring 821 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 10: title average thirty four to nine and ten single handedly 822 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 10: led a team you shouldn't a single handed lea Kyrie 823 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 10: was good, you know, led a team to the NBA Finals, 824 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 10: and made his fifth All NBA First Team, which, for 825 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 10: the record, is more than Steph or Chris Paul have 826 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 10: in their career and is only one less than Kevin 827 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 10: freaking Durant, who's been unbelievable for almost twenty years. 828 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 5: That's how good Luca is. 829 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 10: So but I do think it's noteworthy that he took 830 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 10: it to heart that last year he was a little 831 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 10: out of shape. 832 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 5: It didn't go the way he wanted. 833 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 10: And for the most notable part of that story, other 834 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 10: than the fake news about his forty two inch vertical, 835 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 10: was that the gym he has worked in every summer 836 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 10: since he was a teenager did not have weights in 837 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 10: it until this year. He just went there involved and 838 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 10: then so now he brought it weights. So I think 839 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 10: that is good and now listen is the bit of 840 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 10: osmosis of spending a few months around Lebron and realizing 841 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 10: he's get in shape. Probably, but I'll give Luca credit 842 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 10: for it. 843 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, We've come along way from Syracuse Providence postgame shows 844 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 3: on waar, my friend. I cannot believe that coming. 845 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 5: Up, but I think your takes were better than I 846 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 5: gotta tell you. I think we need to go back 847 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 5: and get some of those tapes. 848 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 10: Unless there was some lacrosse player who had never done 849 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 10: anything in his five year college career and you're like, 850 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 10: he's better than Gary Gates. I don't know, but yeah, 851 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 10: I can't wait. It's gonna be really cool to be 852 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 10: working with you every day for the first time since, 853 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 10: you know, in twenty years. 854 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 5: It's gonna be great. 855 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 10: I'm gonna love it, and it's going to be even 856 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 10: more exciting when Herbert goes eight to nine and you're like, 857 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 10: but actually he. 858 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 5: Throws such a tight spiral. 859 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 3: It is a very tight spiral. Nick Right will be 860 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 3: watching on First things first, thank you, my friend.