WEBVTT - Jets 2024 Training Camp Preview with Special Teams Coordinator Brant Boyer (7/2) 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.640 I've about here since two thy sixteen something else. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.440 Huh. Yeah, it's been a long road, buddy. You know, 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.760 I really enjoy my time here and enjoy coaching these 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:16.880 guys and the people in the building and everything like that. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.880 It's been awesome experience since i've been here. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.960 Yes, I've asked you this before, but what's been the 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.919 key to your longevity? Because most of the time you 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.639 don't see a special teams coordinator had this kind of 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:28.680 tenure in the league. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.560 You know, I don't know, you know, to be honest 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:32.920 with you, I just try to keep my head down 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.040 and do my job, man, and you know, try to 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.360 stay in my lane and do the best job I 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.559 can and try to develop people and things like that. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.519 And fortunately enough, you know, especially for my family, that 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.000 I haven't had to move my kids around and and 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.720 stuff like that. And it's it's been, like I said, 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.760 it's been a pleasure to be here or this long especially, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.000 I've been a real lucky guy. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:01:00.800 So many changes in special teams from a personnel perspective 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.440 each year, So the challenge for you guys is incredible 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.280 throughout the National Football League, not just Tier a lot 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.160 of abs and flows, but last year one of your 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.800 higher points. I would say, when you go back and 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.880 look at yourself in twenty twenty three, as far as 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.560 the season is concerned, what sticks out? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.160 You know, there there were a lot of positives I thought, 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.720 but there's certainly a lot of things that I felt 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.679 like we didn't do a very good job on. And 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.480 you know the importance of fundamentals and everything which we're 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:39.480 practicing the entire offseason. You know, you try to, you know, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.479 to attack those with tempo and trying to get everything 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.399 right that you did you didn't do a very good 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.280 job the year before while trying to do the same 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.240 the things that you did well. You're still brushing up 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.880 on those all the time. But you know, the fundamental 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.920 part of special teams and good special teams play as 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.560 everybody working together, being on the same page, and you know, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.160 every body knowing their stuff. And while I thought, like 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.320 I said, I think I think we've did some some 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.640 good things, there's some things that we certainly could be better. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.600 And uh, you know the stress that you know, the 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.960 standard of which we need to perform is is uh, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.760 you know, at a really high level and you know 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.520 that's how we coach them and and uh, the guys 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:21.920 have bought in, and then you know, we've got a 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.160 really good group of guys here that work hard and uh, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.359 you know, they're doing a nice job. Seems like they're 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.840 they're getting the techniques uh down pretty good, and especially 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.840 with all the unknowns with the new kickoff rules and 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.880 stuff like that. So it'll be interesting to see how 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.040 we do it. And and just excited to get it 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.200 going and and uh see how we do. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.600 I think Rick Oslin does the best year by year 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.720 special teams rankings. He's been doing it for decades and 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.880 he had you guys number three overall last year. Let's 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.560 start with a kicking duel both those guys, Tomas Mori 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.919 Stak greg'ser line after the spring as free agents, how 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.119 big is it that they're staying here? 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.280 It's uh, it was, it was huge. It was you 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.520 know number one and number two needs for for me 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.800 to try to get back. But you talk of that 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.240 whole trio of specialists with Hennessy and and Morstead and 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.920 and and Zerolene and and all just great great guys 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.680 and uh you know, great pros and and you know 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.240 you never have to tell those guys to to help 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.240 lead your room. You never have to tell those guys 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.200 to go work. You never have to tell those guys 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.840 to uh, you know, to do all the things that 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.520 it is to be a pro taking care of your 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.960 body and and uh and you know they perform at 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.280 an elite level when when it comes down to it. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.440 And so you know, anytime you have three really good specialists, 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.000 you know it certainly you can you can piece in 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.119 the parts from there, and you know that's and that's 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.320 what we're trying to do. Those guys are are some 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.680 of the best in the league, if not the best. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.000 As a player or a coach. Have you ever experienced 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.680 a kicking season like that from. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.720 A duel last year? Yeah, I don't think so. I 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.560 think that's the best duel we've had. We've had some 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.960 really good performances and stuff like that, but that that 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.600 group really came along and did a really really good job. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:07.839 And I expect the same this year. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:13.520 Can you speak to zerline thriving not just in regular 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.640 in game situations, but late It seemed like when he 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.840 was asked, when he's called upon late he needed a kick, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:20.920 he gave. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.920 It to you, right. I think you know that that 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.680 goes to a testament of him and his longevity in 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.040 the league. You know, same with Morris, that's same with Hennessy. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.320 They're all pros, and you know when you put them 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.200 in those situations and whether it's a game winner, whether 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.400 it's a game to tie the game, everything like that. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.560 Like you, I don't even worry whether he's not going 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.520 to make it and things like that. So you know, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.520 I have the utmost confidence in all those guys and 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.120 the way they perform. And they had a heck of 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.159 a year last year, and I see nothing but them 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:49.680 getting better. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.359 To be honest with you, on a perfect day in 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.960 my life, say it'd seventy two degrees early in season September, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.840 maybe it's Week four against the Broncos. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.040 What's his range? 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:01.360 Uh? 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.240 Little wind, a little just just just a gus. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.839 And I was seeing him, uh two days ago. I 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.920 think he was kicking sixty five yarders, you know, And 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.800 and you may get longer than that depending on a 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.640 little wind here and there, you know. So he's got 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.640 plenty of ag, that's for sure. Yeah, he does a 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.039 great job all that. The operation there between those three 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.479 guys is fantastic. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:23.680 What about more Stead. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:29.000 We've talked before about his expertise in directional kicking, and 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.680 we saw that again last year. I thought the game 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.440 against the Giants, and I'd like to get your thoughts 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.720 on this was one of the best Plinny games that 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:38.360 I've ever seen. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.680 Yeah, yeah, he's he is uh, you know, like I said, 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.000 all three of these guys are, but team always is A. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.599 He's a machine man and he and he just keeps 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.200 going and going. And you know, a lot of guys 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.720 will decline when they get older. It seems like these 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.080 these three guys are are getting better. And uh, you know, 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.839 I I appreciate the heck out of those guys. They 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.359 actually came snowmobiling with me after the season and stuff 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.160 in Utah, so we had a good time and and uh, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.839 you know, I kind of did it as a trip 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.200 to thank him and stuff, you know, because they did 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.240 such a good job. But morestead is A is a 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.159 ultimate pro. He takes the leadership in our room. You know, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.760 the way he handles his punts directionally. Uh, he's a 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.000 pleasure to beat around all the time. You know, you 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.640 cannot say good enough stuff about him, and you know, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.599 all three of them, but you know, he's done a 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.000 heck of a job. Since he's been here. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.719 So what was that time like in Utah? 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.479 It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. We we rented a big 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.720 house in in uh in Park City and took him 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.840 snowmobilling a couple of them for the first time, and 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:40.960 they had a blast. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.040 They had a lot of fun. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:43.160 Good yeah, good. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:44.239 Who's the best rider? 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.960 Uh, I'd say more Stead was a little more daring 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.479 than the other two then Hannah Nnessey. Uh, you know, 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.000 he he would get after a little bit zerline, you know, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.400 after the first day he got used to it, and 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.400 and uh, they were riding really well actually in the 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.600 second day and and stuff. So we had fun. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.280 It was about storyteller of the bunch. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.560 Oh that's a tough one. Probably their line. He's got 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.920 that dry sense of humor. Man, he's hilarious. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:14.280 Yeah, yeah, kind of See you've mentioned him often, even 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.440 when I asked his specifically about ze or more Stead. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.840 You make sure that he's not forgetting forgotten here. I 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.840 mean it's like from a pitcher's perspective, the guy's just 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.920 throwing perfect games after perfect games. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.920 Yeah, he since I've been here, you know, I don't 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.520 know if I've ever had I've seriously and I can 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.320 honestly say this, I don't know if I've got on 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.280 him five five times. And because he does stuff right, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.000 he studies his stuff, he knows his stuff every week. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.400 He's consistent as there is, you know, as any snapper 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.800 in the league, throws as good as ball as anybody 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.720 in the league. And he's a huge part. That's why 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.239 I mentioned him all the time of what those guys 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.280 did last year specifically, and even when Morstead was here 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.000 the first time and things like that. He's been a 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.120 consistent here since I've been here, and and uh, you know, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.480 it's a it's a great thing to have those those 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.800 three kind of great guys that that perform like that 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.680 and and are such pros. I can't can't think of 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:12.760 him enough, that's for sure. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.280 What's the landscape look for you now on the outside 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.120 without Justin Hardy, who flourished here. He really took his 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.480 game to the next level. You guys knew he was 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.160 a good player in New Orleans. I thought he got 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.960 even better in the Accolades camp. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.320 You know, certainly a guy like that is going to 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.640 be missed, you know, but uh, you know, we have 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.920 some very capable guys and uh, you know, there's a 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.760 an army of people in camp right now that that uh, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.439 you know, you work and and some guys look really good. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.640 Some guys are really picking it up and and uh 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.320 it all comes down to what happens in the preseason 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.599 and and then you pick the best too and and 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.040 roll with those gunners and and uh, you know, hopefully 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.679 having Timo hit the edges, which is really good and 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.440 and uh try to limit limit returns and and create 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.200 filp is a you know. So you know, it's a 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.839 good group of guys, uh that work hard and everything, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.320 and we'll see how it shakes out in the end. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.319 What's Irv's potential there? Because he made this roster primarily 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.120 for his ability what he could do on teams. He's 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.240 going to continue to develop as a receiver right now, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.040 he's working off to the side during. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.960 I think I think Irv's potential is is as high 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.200 as anybody in the league as a special teams player. Well, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.960 I really truly believe that, you know, it was with 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.720 some some detail work and stuff like that. Uh, the 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.920 way he plays, how big, long and fast that kid is, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.880 and he's and he's really good in all phases. You know, 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.640 a lot of guys are are are specialists so to speak, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.200 that are really good on punt and maybe kick off, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.600 but they're not so good in blocking phases and things 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.360 like that. Irv's got the ability to do all four 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.079 all four phases and and be a standout in all 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.880 four phases and and so he's heavily relied on. And 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.319 I think he can be as good special teams players 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.280 as anybody in this league, I really do. Potential wise, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:04.960 do you. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.280 Talk to him about the opportunity that's a hand. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.319 Or he absolutely absolutely, I talk to him all the time. Yeah. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.959 I think he gets tired of me, you know, getting 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.240 after him and stuff like that, But I think he 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.520 obviously knows that that, you know, I'm trying to get 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.360 the best out of him. And as a worker. He's 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.360 an awesome kid. You can't say enough good things about 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:24.680 the kid. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.760 Big body dude, and he runnie. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:28.920 He's strong as hell too. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:29.240 Yeah. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.520 Yeah, how about Brandon Eckles. He's a guy who's been 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.959 playing opposite Hardy for years now. I gotta imagine your 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.600 expectation is maybe more of a leadership component. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.080 Yes, actually he's uh, I was going to say that 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.839 he's you know, Eccles has been really good since he's 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.679 been here, and he and he's done a really good 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.800 job for us. And every time he gets out there, 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.440 he is consistent, you know exactly what you're going to get, 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.160 which which I really like. And uh, he's taken a 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.640 more of a leadership approach this offseason with the young guys, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.320 and I really like that. And he's been a big 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.840 part of what we're doing here since he's been here. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:09.760 For sure, I. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.360 Think I'm going to save the best for last, and 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.280 that's a new kickoff return rules. We're going through personnel 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:20.200 right now. Xavier Gibson to the house the dramatics in 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.640 Week one last year. But what did you make of 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:29.839 him as a rookie in both return phases. I was 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.880 looking at his punt return stats, a lot of fair catches, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.400 but the counter on that is, well, he's catching the ball, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.440 and the other thing is when he did return it, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.600 his average was very good. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.960 Right. Yeah. I think I think you saw flashes of 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.520 what he can be. And I think x can be 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.840 a really really top ten kind of a good returner 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.560 in this league. And I think he's proven that last year. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.640 You know, there's some stuff that you need to clean 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.240 up with catching catching balls and not fair catching in 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.760 some situations and stuff like that. All that happens because 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.359 they're they're rookies. They're not used to being in those situations. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.840 I think you saw a big improvement of him getting 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.440 vertical more instead of going sideways late in the year, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.920 you know, especially specifically excuse me in in uh the 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.800 New England game and all that wind and he's going 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.560 up there and catching it in the snow and and uh, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.840 you know, saving us a ton of field position, and 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.640 the progression of of of him, you know, throughout the 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.119 season I thought was really good, and especially his offensive 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.920 role went way up. And I think that's where you know, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.920 I mean, he was playing a lot of offensive ball 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.199 and and uh so I think that you know at 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.280 times that he probably got a little worn down, to 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.520 be honest with you, but he's he's an explosive playmaker, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.600 does a really good job. And uh, you know, I 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.559 expect nothing to see, but you know, steps as he 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:51.920 keeps getting better and better. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.160 You see a more confident cat out there on the field. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.640 Yeah. The way you see how he how he prepares, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.840 how he how he's working at practice. Everything's full speed, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.200 things like that, and that's all the stuff that we 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.800 had worked on last year that he's now he's taken 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.360 the next step of being a pro and practicing like 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.680 a pro, and and uh, you know, he's taking a 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.760 leadership role with all those returners back there, and and uh, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.880 you know, I tell him what he what we need 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.720 and and you know he filters it through the room 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.520 and stuff like that. So he's he's doing a great job. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.800 I expect really big things out of him this year. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.120 It was a cool moment the other day at practice 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.439 when Aaron rolls to his right, looks down the field, 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.760 down this sideline comes all the way. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.320 Back across the field. It's X for a fifty nine 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:37.920 yard score. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.560 Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, he's he's a Aaron's a heck 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.240 of a guy, you know, you know, on a heck 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.280 of a player, obviously, and he's been been so productive 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.719 for so long. And and you know what I like 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.880 about it. You know, I played with Dan Marino my rookiear. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.920 It reminds me so much as standing there back there 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.240 watching him and how fast he gets rid of the 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.840 ball and how easy it comes out of his hands, 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.080 and the leadership that he has and and uh, it's been. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.440 It's it'll be really good for this football team, that's 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:04.880 for sure. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.559 Can you speak to those similarities, just touch upon it 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.960 a little bit. But when you look at Aaron practice 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.240 and then you go back, yeah and watch those moments 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:15.319 in Miami. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.600 Marine, it's just the way how fast he gets rid 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.160 of the ball and how easy you know he he 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.080 does that stuff and the no look passes and you know, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.800 obviously he's one of the best to ever do it. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.800 And but there are some similarities there that I that 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.480 I see, you know, and the leadership component to it, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.000 where he's he's helping coach all those guys and if 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.920 he sees something, he knows what the line's doing and 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.200 and uh, you know what the backs are doing and 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.760 he and he tries to correct him right away and 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.160 and uh, you know, helping those guys get better and 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.360 that that does nothing but lead to team success in 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.640 my opinion. And and and Danny did that too down there. 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.880 Have you talked to him about Marina, I haven't. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.240 I'm sure you liked those conversations because he's a guy 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.840 who's he's definitely a history by right. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.720 Yeah, He's been really good to get to know here, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.280 and like I said, I think the biggest component is 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.960 the leadership aspect of it, and let alone the supreme 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.840 talent that that guy has. You know, it's going to 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:14.880 help this team a bunch. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:21.760 All right, drum roll, what is that NFL's new kickoff roll? 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.640 If you're at a dinner party somewhere in summer, maybe 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.080 you're on the lake, you're fishing in Utah, somebody says, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:28.320 what's what's going on? 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:29.800 What is his new kickoff role? 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.880 I think it's uh, you know, they're trying to they're 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.960 trying to constrict the space and the speed of the 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.920 game and to limit injuries and uh. But I think 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.360 what you're going to see this year is is it's 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.280 almost an unknown because it's never been done here, you know, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.760 in the league before. And it's different than the XFL 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.760 because we have more space. They pushed us back five 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.120 yards even more than the XFL. So as much you 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.640 know tape that we have studied in the last four months. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.440 When this this came about, it's it's a kind of 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.560 a wait and see on what what you can get 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:09.080 to what you can't. You know, we're experimenting every day 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.800 that we do it. You know, the different kicks and 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.480 and different strategies and and things like that, and different techniques. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.720 It's it's it's so much different for cover guys. They're 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.200 going to be on top of you fast. You're not 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.080 going to have as much space to beat them. It's 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.160 going to be really interesting to see how it goes, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.400 how the rules may change in the preseason depending on 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:35.040 on how people are approaching this rule. And so it's 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.160 you don't know what you can do because you can't 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.800 line up eleven against eleven and go full fill covers 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.880 every five minutes down or every couple of minutes here, 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.000 you know, And so you really don't know until the preseason, 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.960 true preseason, where you can what returns, you can do 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.680 everything like that, and where you can get your doubles 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.840 from your traps, whatever you may be working on for 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.320 the week. You know, where are those guys need to 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.520 single all that stuff. Nobody knows until because nobody can 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.399 go out there and practice full speed the way it 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:11.400 needs to be practiced and do that because the players 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.400 just you know, you can't do that in the offseason 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.800 like you used to so much, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:20.960 So it's it's a lot of unknown, but I'm excited 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.760 for it because it makes the players. I think it's 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.960 really exciting for the players because the players are now 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.600 special teams. Guys are valuable guys. They're gonna have to cover, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.480 you know. I bet you eighty percent of the kicks 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:33.840 this year. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.960 So specifically, you're still kicking off from the thirty five. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.919 Your coverage unit now is on the plus forty. On 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.280 the plus forty, yeah, and they can't. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.560 Move until the ball hits the ground or it's touched right, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.040 and so nor can the kick return team that's on 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.119 the thirty five. They're only five yards away, you know. 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.879 And then you have two more in the back end 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.560 wherever you want to put them, and then two returners. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.399 You're going to have to have two returners as opposed 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.800 to one all the time this year because of the 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.280 balls these kickers will be able to hit. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.600 How does that change? And I don't I'm not asking you. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.119 To give away all your secrets here because some of 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:17.400 this is experimentation, like you just talked about. But how 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.640 does it change the role of a returner? You still 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.199 want to take it to the house. But are you 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.679 looking for as far as that skill set? Are you 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.320 looking for a different player? Than maybe you did in 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:29.840 the past. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.639 That's that's a really good question. I think that again, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.000 that's kind of a wait and see deal. I don't 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.399 I think a good returner is going to flourish no 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.800 matter what. And uh, and we we have got it. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.399 Gets our jobs as as coaches and as players and 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.320 specifically the blockers and everything to to make the most 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.800 of their talent and make make them right. Whatever their 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.800 skill set is, it's our job to figure it out 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.520 and to and to take advantage of it. I don't 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.359 think you're going to see a monster difference of little 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.879 scat kind of guys back there or big dudes that 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.919 just putting their foot in their ground and get vertical. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.200 You know. I think that your scheme is your scheme 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.800 when you come up with it and you tailor it 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.679