Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronks, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Okay, it's time to talk some cowboys.
Speaker 1: What are you looking at, Mickey? I was wondering what
Speaker 1: the green hat was. Now it's Carol Dragon football. It's
Speaker 1: game day. We got high school football tonight, but we're
Speaker 1: talking cowboys on a Thursday morning. Thursday Night football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football is invaded. Well, it's always been in
Speaker 1: the high school ranks. Of course. We got NFL Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football tonight, Miami Dolphins invading our great state to
Speaker 1: take on the Houston Texans tonight. Texan's playing pretty well
Speaker 1: right now. They are straight four in a row. That's right.
Speaker 1: Did they have a roof? They have a roof in
Speaker 1: southlike they do have an indoor practice facility that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys used to practice it. Yes, just like just like
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the other high schools indoor Texas, they
Speaker 1: have indoor practice facilities. Rob, how are you doing I'm
Speaker 1: doing great, doing great. Got one practice left, sort of
Speaker 1: a long weekend coming up for this team, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's much needed, I think. But we got to see
Speaker 1: the new guy yesterday. That was that was interesting, And
Speaker 1: let's dive into that. You saw the new guy on
Speaker 1: the practice field inside Ford Center here, what y'all make
Speaker 1: of what you're seeing out there? Physically look good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think he you know, I know
Speaker 1: there were some questions about him being overweighted and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I didn't look like to me that he
Speaker 1: is that at all. You know, I didn't see a
Speaker 1: sluggish looking player. And he'd had some a little bit
Speaker 1: some prom with some ankles and the concussion thing and
Speaker 1: all that. But I think just watching him go out
Speaker 1: there and throw it around a little bit was was
Speaker 1: a good site for everybody. Look good in his nineteen jersey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fit nice and tight slam Yeah, no problems here, were
Speaker 1: wearing number nineteen, Keyshawn Johnson, Miles Austin. Yeah, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: just just happened to have yeah, exactly. Okay. You got
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler, Miles Austin, Keishawan Johnson with Lance Ransel and
Speaker 1: Lance Awards about that, both Lance Ransell and Bambi both
Speaker 1: war number nineteen, not at the same time. All right,
Speaker 1: there were there was a punter who wore number nineteen,
Speaker 1: Danny Villa went away, John Jett, oh, John Jett, and
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks wore number nineteen, one of them famous in
Speaker 1: redskin Lord Cowboy, Red Longley and Kevin Sweeney. Kevin Sweeney
Speaker 1: during the strike day, well, and he was after after that.
Speaker 1: He plays, He stuck around. Now he got he got
Speaker 1: the stick. He got stick. He actually got to start
Speaker 1: a game because Tex wanted to see him. So everybody
Speaker 1: that says Jerry says, oh, I gotta see this guy
Speaker 1: out there. Tech was insistent that they see what Kevin
Speaker 1: Sweeney can do because they were trawled with him in
Speaker 1: the strike games. Right, you know what, I'm insistent on
Speaker 1: seeing what Amari Cooper can do. This current number nineteen.
Speaker 1: He went out there real quickly and threw like three
Speaker 1: interceptions in the game. And that was a good coach though. Right,
Speaker 1: that was the end of Sweeney. Okay, hopefully Cooper will
Speaker 1: have a bunch of longer. Well he won't throw any interceptions.
Speaker 1: I hope. All right, m you did you were you
Speaker 1: in on the media scrum around his locker. I believe
Speaker 1: we were, Yeah, Rob and I yeah, you believe you were.
Speaker 1: I was on the outer boundary of it because if
Speaker 1: he getting run in there like a crazy man to
Speaker 1: get up front, you didn't hear very well, where you're
Speaker 1: a crazy man up front? I was, you know me,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting to get too hyped about anything. And
Speaker 1: he was interesting because he didn't. You know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: get too hyped about anything. Oh, he had like fifty
Speaker 1: people around him, and he was just kind of, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the big fuss about him? In here to do
Speaker 1: my job? And you know, it's nice to be here,
Speaker 1: And he said, who wouldn't be excited. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not a super boisterous guy at all, but I got
Speaker 1: the sense he kept saying fresh start. I think with
Speaker 1: what's going on in Oakland, I would imagine this is
Speaker 1: a good situation to be in a team that's at
Speaker 1: least in a division race right now, and he's got
Speaker 1: a chance to be the featured guy. A bunch of
Speaker 1: guys would like to get out of Oakland about now. Well,
Speaker 1: John Gree'll let you do. Probably all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is raise your hand and you'll find a way out.
Speaker 1: John will move you along. Well, he's the reports are
Speaker 1: up there that now are out there that you know,
Speaker 1: we're not trading anybody else. We're gonna try to be competitive. Sure,
Speaker 1: but I think the message has already been said. The
Speaker 1: guys in that locker room don't know if they're staying
Speaker 1: or going. Oh that's true, and that's a very difficult
Speaker 1: situation to have to deal with. And he talked about
Speaker 1: They asked how he found out, and he said, our
Speaker 1: negotiator came out. I guess it's they're Bruce May's back
Speaker 1: in the day. Uh. It sounded like it was the
Speaker 1: guy that takes care of the cap and no, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: They went to get him to go to MS. Walsh
Speaker 1: I think is the guy's name. Anyway, one of the
Speaker 1: players said they saw the guy walking out and they
Speaker 1: all looked at each other and goes, oh, here's the
Speaker 1: grim Reaper. Somebody's leaving. So that's kind of what's happening
Speaker 1: in Oakland right now. They're pretty aware of what's happening.
Speaker 1: And it's really when you think about it, we talked
Speaker 1: about the message to this locker room, it's the reverse here.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not a one win team right now,
Speaker 1: they're three and four. It's not great, but they're saying
Speaker 1: we're going for it. We're not giving up on the season,
Speaker 1: and why should they. They're only a game and a
Speaker 1: half out of the division. But this is the complete
Speaker 1: polar opposite message being sent from this front office to
Speaker 1: this locker room. With bringing Cooper in here. You think
Speaker 1: this is movie. We talk about it helping the offense
Speaker 1: and helping the evaluation of Dak Prescott, but is it
Speaker 1: really more about trying to help the defense? Maybe? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, Mickey, guys, everybody's been kind of talking to
Speaker 1: Rob it and used well have talking about you know
Speaker 1: that this defense is on championship pace, you know, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, and when what they've been able
Speaker 1: to Now they've got some really tough tests coming up Philadelphia, Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see where this defense is made of. But maybe
Speaker 1: this is the preemptive strike that Okay, we're playing well
Speaker 1: enough on defense, so we're gonna have to find a
Speaker 1: way to score some points. But I think I said
Speaker 1: this yesterday and I believe it with my whole heart
Speaker 1: now that that this this is a message those defensive
Speaker 1: players that hey, you know, the general managers saying, I
Speaker 1: haven't given up on you guys. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: help you here, you know, and I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: help this quarterback, but more importantly trying to help this defense.
Speaker 1: You know, these guys could go out there and get
Speaker 1: some turnovers, get some short fields. I mean, haven't created
Speaker 1: a whole hell of a lot of turnovers, but they've
Speaker 1: been able to get some pressures, set a little bit
Speaker 1: of leakage in the running game the other day. But
Speaker 1: and that back is rare the way he plays for
Speaker 1: old Man. But I you know, I think it's really
Speaker 1: I think the defense. If you're again a defensive player,
Speaker 1: you're you're sitting there thinking, all right, he's trying, he's
Speaker 1: trying to help us, you know, yeah, more so even
Speaker 1: more than the offense. You bring up a good point
Speaker 1: about that they're going to be tested defensively in the
Speaker 1: second half of this season. But right now, the way
Speaker 1: they're playing, this is a group that you can take
Speaker 1: into the playoffs if you get in and have a
Speaker 1: chance to win games, because you know, if you can
Speaker 1: hold teams to seventeen points, twenty points, let's playoff football
Speaker 1: right there, All you need is a little bit more
Speaker 1: juice offensively. I think that's the way they're looking at it.
Speaker 1: What if the argument is they're not good enough offensively
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? Well, would that be why? Well, they're
Speaker 1: they're not right now to be a topic, it's not.
Speaker 1: I mean that starts. What if you you made this
Speaker 1: move and they're not good enough. I mean, the defense
Speaker 1: still keeps playing well, but now you realize, okay, they're
Speaker 1: not good enough. So are you saying that to make
Speaker 1: a run. To make a run, well, then you like
Speaker 1: you said yesterday, I think then you have to take
Speaker 1: a macro view in the offseason of what's wrong with
Speaker 1: everything offensively? What do we have to fix? But right
Speaker 1: now they're going for it. Yeah. No, I applaud him
Speaker 1: for doing that. You know that. I'm just sitting there
Speaker 1: thinking Cooper could be a solution to the problem. It
Speaker 1: may not be the total overall solution. I don't think
Speaker 1: he comes in and I don't think he looks at
Speaker 1: himself as well, I'm the savior now I'm going to
Speaker 1: take care of everything. Well, you better hope he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know what you're saying, Mickey I just,
Speaker 1: I just I just would like to see him the
Speaker 1: targets he gets, make receptions, makes some big plays, kind
Speaker 1: of keeps some things going. Give you you said the
Speaker 1: word rob, the word juice. Get this offensive little juice.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe the other guys around him, we'll start saying,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I get it. This guy. You know,
Speaker 1: you watch him practice a little yesterday and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, this gotta go get the football. I've seen
Speaker 1: him do it on tape. Explosive and I know what
Speaker 1: we saw was routes on air, but you can see it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see the athletic ability. Mick. We
Speaker 1: watched it for fifteen minutes. He runs so effortless, smooth.
Speaker 1: It's like he glides down the field like he's sliding
Speaker 1: right down the field where other guys has got to
Speaker 1: have a lot of body movement to run. He just
Speaker 1: he's really smooth and he eats up ground really fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah and four three six forty coming out of college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and only twenty four years old. I mean, the mistakes
Speaker 1: that we made with Joey Galloway was an older guy.
Speaker 1: We gave up the extra pick that was that was
Speaker 1: stupid on our part. But the thing about, you know,
Speaker 1: you try and get a guy at least as young
Speaker 1: and you can kind of grow with a little bit.
Speaker 1: And Mickey's pointed out the contract and all that stuff
Speaker 1: to me, you know, and we're gonna do the draft
Speaker 1: show later on today. I know Dan Brugin his top
Speaker 1: thirty two has got one wide receiver, you know, and
Speaker 1: then it's you know, but people say, hey, well, Bross,
Speaker 1: maybe they're not gonna take a wide receiver. May they
Speaker 1: need to take a safety, maybe they need to take
Speaker 1: a tight end. I get that, but I just think
Speaker 1: that if you're gonna go out and try and help
Speaker 1: this team right now and help this defense, you know
Speaker 1: this this was the right the right move to make,
Speaker 1: what you know, And you can point out that they
Speaker 1: could have taken something else for the first round, sure,
Speaker 1: but probably not likely. Everything's yeah, everything continued as is.
Speaker 1: The wide receiver was going to be a priority, absolutely
Speaker 1: has to be. There was no question. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know what do you want you want to you want
Speaker 1: to safety over a wide receiver? I don't think so,
Speaker 1: you know, not when you were struggling at wide receivers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's kind of a people be focusing on
Speaker 1: tight ends. Now get ready for that and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm focused on one before next week. Yeah, get one
Speaker 1: in here before next week. So yeah, Jeff Swaim is
Speaker 1: gonna be out like he's going to be out a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks for sure. Okay. Yeah. Um, and you
Speaker 1: got four games in the span of eighteen days, so
Speaker 1: if you're if they're saying a couple of weeks, it
Speaker 1: could easily be four games before you know it. What
Speaker 1: are the Giants? Have they got any excess? Well they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. They consider Evan Ingram to be
Speaker 1: Ulvin Ingra will be a lot of fun to have
Speaker 1: if you could do that, and he really doesn't there.
Speaker 1: Who's their backup title, Well, they've got They've got Ellison.
Speaker 1: Red Ellison is one of them, and he had a
Speaker 1: deal where he got down on the goal line the
Speaker 1: other day. Red Ellison and then Scott's Simonson. The guys.
Speaker 1: If you guys can tell anything about Scott Simonson, I
Speaker 1: would be amazed. I can't help you there, Yeah I will.
Speaker 1: The other thing too, sounds like somebody be running for Congress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Scott Simonson, he needs your vote. The other option too,
Speaker 1: If you wanted to go out and get a receiver
Speaker 1: if it's not the draft, and you would have had
Speaker 1: to look at free agency, right and spend a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Now, you know, down the road, if Cooper's
Speaker 1: what they expect him to be, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: pay him to keep him around. But it's a manageable
Speaker 1: contract for the next year and a half. And think
Speaker 1: about and we had a mailback question about this this morning.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the decisions they have to
Speaker 1: make on their current roster next year in current terms
Speaker 1: of DeMarcus Byron Jones. Go ahead, Bill, keep, you can keep.
Speaker 1: I just I just landed on a tight end. Got
Speaker 1: you got one? Cole Beasley. They getting rid of players
Speaker 1: in Oakland. Yeah, and I was going through that last myself. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jared Cook, Yeah, Jared Cook would be the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be the one you would you would if
Speaker 1: and he's under he's a free agent next year, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's in his last year of his contract. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: if you look at who the Raiders are starting to
Speaker 1: tight end, it's Jared Cook, Lee Smith and not the
Speaker 1: pitcher Lee Smith back in the day, and Derek Carrier, right,
Speaker 1: So those I mean, those are the three tight ends.
Speaker 1: I think if you wanted to go get a tight end,
Speaker 1: you know what this might be interesting is now check
Speaker 1: the practice squads. Go poach a guy, you know, go Pochman.
Speaker 1: And I know that you could say, well, you want
Speaker 1: to give a pickup for a guy, but a clean
Speaker 1: way to get a guy that might be a young
Speaker 1: guy that you kind of liked a little bit, go
Speaker 1: poach a guy if someone's practice squad, Well, teams try
Speaker 1: to do it with Jarwin. Yeah last year exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that if you don't want to give
Speaker 1: up the pick. But Bill, you mentioned it that that's
Speaker 1: that's a fair name to mention because Cook is a
Speaker 1: guy that people have talked about as well. I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, and you're looking at a team that's
Speaker 1: one in five, one in six, whatever they are, and uh,
Speaker 1: and he's in the last year of his contract, a
Speaker 1: veteran guy, you know, his deal was two years, ten
Speaker 1: million dollars. Got three tight ends. Yeah. No, you're absolutely
Speaker 1: right though, Mickey, that that might be their thoughts. I mean,
Speaker 1: they you noticed they got Schultz involved in that game,
Speaker 1: and maybe they think he's maybe a little bit better
Speaker 1: prepared now than he wasn't in training camp. They did
Speaker 1: draft him for a reason, right, Yeah, so yeah, you
Speaker 1: just have some inexperience there for sure, a whole lot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's something to consider. How many catches now
Speaker 1: do the three tight ends have the three that are
Speaker 1: that are not named Swain not named Swain? Well two
Speaker 1: maybe Jarwin's got Schultz, Ultrico has two, Schultz has one,
Speaker 1: and Jarwin has two. Five right total? So five five receptions.
Speaker 1: Bill's guy Blake Bell from from jackson Yeah. The build up, right,
Speaker 1: he just he just signed last week with Jacksonville. Okay,
Speaker 1: might be a situation you might not get that guy.
Speaker 1: But that see what I'm I guess what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say too is and this was some of the
Speaker 1: conversations I had over the weekend with some guys. They're
Speaker 1: they're hunting tight ends, but if you look at really
Speaker 1: the depth that a lot a lot of teams are
Speaker 1: just carrying, you know, there's very few teams carrying like
Speaker 1: four guys. A lot of teams are just carrying three guys,
Speaker 1: which would get him down to two. Yeah. So and
Speaker 1: that's what you and then you have to look at
Speaker 1: your own roster. I mean there's teams like Cincinnati. Okay,
Speaker 1: Baltimore's carrying four. Mark Andrews and Hayden Hurst. Those are
Speaker 1: two guys they drafted. Max Williams was a draft pick
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, second round pick, and then
Speaker 1: Nick Boyle is another guy that they have. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's very few teams them Cincinnati are both carrying four
Speaker 1: tight ends. Uh, the Mami Dolphins are carrying four tight ends.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you'd have to probably find somebody. That's why
Speaker 1: I think that maybe you look at some of the
Speaker 1: practice squad might be a way of trying to to
Speaker 1: poach a guy. But then again, in is Jarwin not Jarwin?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, swam not long term? Right? Is that what
Speaker 1: you're telling me? Well, he's got a sprained MCL and
Speaker 1: normally those are two to four. And if you look
Speaker 1: at MALIEK. Collins, he missed three games. So does it
Speaker 1: is it worth? It's not. It's not. You shouldn't put
Speaker 1: him on the on the injured reserve. No, no, you
Speaker 1: got to carry him. Okay, if you got three tight ends, tight,
Speaker 1: yeah I don't. There's yeah, Right, they're gonna play with
Speaker 1: the three they got, right, They're not this is not
Speaker 1: going to be a guys can just do a little
Speaker 1: bit of blocking, you know, down the edge. I'm I'll
Speaker 1: throw out Red Ellison, but only because the type player
Speaker 1: he is, he's under contract through for a couple more years,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's there. You go, is I
Speaker 1: mean if you had, if you had a tight end
Speaker 1: that you like somewhere, who could be an h BAC
Speaker 1: type you know? Yeah, well I will trust me. You know,
Speaker 1: I can move I can move on from Thompson. I
Speaker 1: hope his mom's not listening today, you know. Gotta watch
Speaker 1: out for those gotta watch out for those moms. We're
Speaker 1: learning the boys. We're learning that on these shows. But well,
Speaker 1: if his mom would like to call in eight eight, five, five,
Speaker 1: two two nine to seven. By the way, we've got
Speaker 1: an abbreviated show today because Jason Garrett is at ten
Speaker 1: old five. Yeah, maybe we should promote a Mother's Day
Speaker 1: and only the mothers can call. Mickey one time trapped
Speaker 1: me with Keith Smith's mom got about that in London
Speaker 1: and luckily I said some really nice things and it
Speaker 1: was on a show. We were doing a show there
Speaker 1: at the at the Pub, and Mickey took a question
Speaker 1: from Keith Smith's mom, and she asked a question about
Speaker 1: Keith Smith, and you had no idea it was Keith.
Speaker 1: It was Keith Smith's mom. And I gave a really
Speaker 1: a glowing scouting report, didn't I Micky about it? I
Speaker 1: finished his answer with so, missus Smith answer, she made
Speaker 1: the trip all the way out from she she used
Speaker 1: to listen to our shows all the time by herself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet there's a bunch of parents to listen to
Speaker 1: this show. Missus if you're listening, Hey, you know, God
Speaker 1: bless you for calling in and talking about your son.
Speaker 1: I think. I think so if you're a parent of
Speaker 1: a cowboy player and give us a call, I tell
Speaker 1: you what our safety used to his mom and dad.
Speaker 1: I think listen quite a bit there, uh with uh, Jeff,
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff, Yeah, Jeff Heath, Yeah, you know. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I told when the guys asked me on the fan
Speaker 1: about it, if he had anybody ever confront you, and
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I ran into Tony Romo's grandfather. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Romo side of the family, and uh, he comes
Speaker 1: up to me and he goes, I listen to what
Speaker 1: you say. I see what you write about my my grandson,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, okay, here we go. And this was
Speaker 1: before he no. I guess he had gotten good by then,
Speaker 1: and uh, he goes, you know what I like about you?
Speaker 1: And I go, okay what and he goes, you know,
Speaker 1: and my my grandson does well? You know you you
Speaker 1: say he does well. And when he doesn't do well
Speaker 1: and he should have his ask do you kick his ass?
Speaker 1: And I'm going home, Okay, that's fair. I've had discussion
Speaker 1: with Jerry Jones one day, same thing, not about apparent,
Speaker 1: but same kind of discussion about where where he says.
Speaker 1: He goes, hey, you've been kicking my ass pretty good.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, here he goes, but you're fair
Speaker 1: about it. So I'm like, oh, thank you. I thought
Speaker 1: thanks thanks. I thought I was I thought I was
Speaker 1: out the door. I thought you guys were down one?
Speaker 1: All right? Any other position that you would like to
Speaker 1: see the team add here as we lead end up
Speaker 1: head up to the trade deadline. By the way, up
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, you wanted a former Raider, you want another
Speaker 1: former Raider? Obi Melifono was visiting today free agent safety
Speaker 1: our second round pick. By the way, yeah, that Cowboys
Speaker 1: took a look at good ones going on r R
Speaker 1: probably yeah, and but Goodwin playing corner, right, Thompson's your
Speaker 1: other Thompson's your fourth safe. Oh he was the sake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Goodwin's the corner. And they're looking for a guy that
Speaker 1: could potentially They liked Goodwin because he could cover on
Speaker 1: on as a flyer. That was something they were really
Speaker 1: really high on him. And there was a couple of
Speaker 1: times Jacksonville and stuff that I thought he did a
Speaker 1: pretty good job of of doing exactly that. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're looking for that type of a special teams guy.
Speaker 1: Another name remember Teddy Williams. Yeah, yes, he's visiting today
Speaker 1: as well. Track guy. Remember when he showed up at
Speaker 1: the Alamodome. He's still playing. Yeah, and he's still playing
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Turned into a special team that's what
Speaker 1: he is. He's a special Yeah, he's how many teams five?
Speaker 1: Six a lot Carolina because he's still playing wide receiver
Speaker 1: and he get converted. He's just a special teams guy. Really,
Speaker 1: he's a corner right yeah, lightning fast. Yeah, he's always
Speaker 1: been fast, and that's the thing that that's what's kept
Speaker 1: him around people. How many years he played at Carolina.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was crazy. How I mean the number
Speaker 1: of years A couple of years he was I thought
Speaker 1: it was longer than that. I think twenty sixteen he
Speaker 1: got there. Yeah, he most recently with the Giants, and
Speaker 1: they reportedly let him out of his contract to handle
Speaker 1: a family issue back in August twenty fifteen to seventeen Carolina. Okay,
Speaker 1: three years, right, yeah, fifteen sixteen, seventeen, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Giants practice squad this year. He can't be practice squad
Speaker 1: off season Giants. So can he return kicks or is
Speaker 1: he still just he's got the guy without the ball,
Speaker 1: he's got the speed for it. I think, like Brian said,
Speaker 1: maybe a flyer on special teams. And it was twenty ten.
Speaker 1: He was here twenty ten and eleven, so nine seasons ago. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him before any anything extra that he's done. No,
Speaker 1: we were in San Antonio, we were ten, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was a utsa guy, right, yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: big story. No football background back then, that's right. And
Speaker 1: then he went to the Sacramento Mountain Lions of the
Speaker 1: United Football Is that right? That's right. They got Mountain
Speaker 1: Lions and he was a kid. He was a kick
Speaker 1: returner for the Sacramento Mountain Lion. So he does have
Speaker 1: they have they have thirty six career games for this guy.
Speaker 1: Thirty six sweep. Yeah, there he's the jet sweep guy,
Speaker 1: got number twenty seven. Now they run those jet sweeps
Speaker 1: for you. Did you see that? I did see that. Ye.
Speaker 1: He's got one fifty one yard reception in his career.
Speaker 1: So there's his offensive production. Yeah, you're stuck on that
Speaker 1: Mountain Lions firears like that. Obi Mela fun Wu though
Speaker 1: a Yukon guy, yeah, and and really a tall, long
Speaker 1: range kind of a guy. Over sixty three. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: was a teammate of Byron Jones at at Yukon, and
Speaker 1: so he's the thing. The thing. I liked the way
Speaker 1: that he hit. I liked the way that he came forward.
Speaker 1: I like the way he finished as a tackler. The
Speaker 1: problem with him is that he's such a tall guy.
Speaker 1: And I call it when scouting, they call it leggy.
Speaker 1: When he has to turn, he really can't turn because
Speaker 1: it takes him a while for those legs to get
Speaker 1: him around. And so that's some of the struggle he has.
Speaker 1: When he could come down hill and hit and all
Speaker 1: that he could be physical. He could play around the ball,
Speaker 1: he can make plays on the ball, but when you
Speaker 1: had to play when the ball went behind him or
Speaker 1: over his head, that's where the struggles were. He was
Speaker 1: a high pick, second round pick by the Raiders because right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he is a I mean he is a good looking
Speaker 1: guy physically, but a like a lot of these tall,
Speaker 1: tall safeties don't have the ability to turn and really run.
Speaker 1: And that's and that that that's one of those factors
Speaker 1: that you you look at when when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: those tall safeties like that. But the frame is probably
Speaker 1: more of a Richard type dB four two twenty four. Clearly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's no, he's a big guy. I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: he's an impressive looking guy when you stand next to him.
Speaker 1: About this four four yeah, one fifty one ten yards split, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything going, everything going, four verticals, yeah, and then an
Speaker 1: eleven eight broad jump. Must be something in the water
Speaker 1: up there in stores Connecticut, because they all jump, they
Speaker 1: all jump up there at stores. So yeah, no, this
Speaker 1: is a this is this is one of those things
Speaker 1: where you have to kind of sit there and you say, Okay,
Speaker 1: are they looking at this guy? You know better? Than
Speaker 1: is it? Is it a better than what they You know,
Speaker 1: they have to keep the who is it? Darry and Thompson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Thompson was a practice squad, so I need to keep
Speaker 1: him for three So he's now he has to be
Speaker 1: here one more week, right, he's got one more game.
Speaker 1: If you want to make a move, maybe the same
Speaker 1: game or weeks, because this counts as a week for
Speaker 1: pay Well, this would be Yeah, I guess this would
Speaker 1: be the week. Then you can after this week, you
Speaker 1: could probably trade him out if that's what you want
Speaker 1: to do, if melofon Wood works out well for you. Though.
Speaker 1: I like the guy. I mean he's had some injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really limited him last year as a rookie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and even this year. I think they think the
Speaker 1: Oakland waved him off. Ir Yeah, is he this is
Speaker 1: third year? Second year? Is it? Second round pick last
Speaker 1: year year by Oakland? Yeah, so what he I thought
Speaker 1: he would have played with Byron Jones. I thought he
Speaker 1: played it. I thought Byron Jones senior year. Then I
Speaker 1: think so that kind of thing. I think they maybe
Speaker 1: one year together. Okay, maybe I'm confusing him with somebody
Speaker 1: else because I didn't go to the Senior Bowl. Last
Speaker 1: year's past year. Yeah, well we'll see if you saw
Speaker 1: you Senior Bowl. Yeah well so two years ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see if they signed him. But tell me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I feel like Will McClay has done. He'll
Speaker 1: take a look at guys that have been drafted high before.
Speaker 1: You know, they've had talent, they've been successful somewhere and
Speaker 1: just and just take a look. We'll see if he signed. Well,
Speaker 1: it might be a guy too that's on your board
Speaker 1: and he's a young guy, right, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: young player, and you just you know, saying, okay, why
Speaker 1: can't this guy play? And now you need to figure
Speaker 1: that out. That's that That goes back to That goes
Speaker 1: back to Jerry Jones and his relationship with Al Davis.
Speaker 1: Al Davis is the same way, Al Davis, you drafted
Speaker 1: a guy in the you know, first two rounds, All
Speaker 1: Davis want to take a look at that guy just
Speaker 1: to see, you know, like, well somebody thought he was
Speaker 1: a first round player. But what are we missing here?
Speaker 1: So uh no, no different in here and taking that opportunity. Okay,
Speaker 1: any other positions that need to be I was trying
Speaker 1: to think I was trying to think, you know, you
Speaker 1: really do. We feel like the offensive line has to
Speaker 1: play through what they're going through right now. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna put you're not gonna put Fleming in there or
Speaker 1: you know, and you're not gonna find somebody that No,
Speaker 1: I've got what I'm saying that's gonna like jump in
Speaker 1: and help you. Rob wants you to get to a
Speaker 1: press conference. Oh. I just looked at the time. Man
Speaker 1: got five minutes, right, Well, yeah, okay, when do we
Speaker 1: have to go? Oh, well, you ask the wrong person.
Speaker 1: He's got to get the stream going, doesn't he. Yeah, okay, Sorry, guys.
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