WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: The Amari Effect 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:16.759 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.599 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:33.159 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronks, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:38.080 and Bill Jones. Okay, it's time to talk some cowboys. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.519 What are you looking at, Mickey? I was wondering what 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:45.319 the green hat was. Now it's Carol Dragon football. It's 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.000 game day. We got high school football tonight, but we're 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.919 talking cowboys on a Thursday morning. Thursday Night football. Yeah, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.480 Thursday Night football is invaded. Well, it's always been in 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.080 the high school ranks. Of course. We got NFL Thursday 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.800 Night Football tonight, Miami Dolphins invading our great state to 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.720 take on the Houston Texans tonight. Texan's playing pretty well 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.280 right now. They are straight four in a row. That's right. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.120 Did they have a roof? They have a roof in 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.200 southlike they do have an indoor practice facility that the 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.120 Cowboys used to practice it. Yes, just like just like 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.080 ninety percent of the other high schools indoor Texas, they 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.880 have indoor practice facilities. Rob, how are you doing I'm 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.399 doing great, doing great. Got one practice left, sort of 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.480 a long weekend coming up for this team, so you know, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.120 it's much needed, I think. But we got to see 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.240 the new guy yesterday. That was that was interesting, And 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.640 let's dive into that. You saw the new guy on 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:43.000 the practice field inside Ford Center here, what y'all make 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.040 of what you're seeing out there? Physically look good? Yeah? 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.280 I didn't. I didn't think he you know, I know 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.880 there were some questions about him being overweighted and stuff 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.800 like that. I didn't look like to me that he 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.920 is that at all. You know, I didn't see a 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.520 sluggish looking player. And he'd had some a little bit 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.760 some prom with some ankles and the concussion thing and 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.640 all that. But I think just watching him go out 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.840 there and throw it around a little bit was was 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.160 a good site for everybody. Look good in his nineteen jersey, Yeah, 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.880 fit nice and tight slam Yeah, no problems here, were 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:18.919 wearing number nineteen, Keyshawn Johnson, Miles Austin. Yeah, okay, I'm 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:23.359 just just happened to have yeah, exactly. Okay. You got 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:30.200 Bryce Butler, Miles Austin, Keishawan Johnson with Lance Ransel and 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.360 Lance Awards about that, both Lance Ransell and Bambi both 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.560 war number nineteen, not at the same time. All right, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.640 there were there was a punter who wore number nineteen, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.320 Danny Villa went away, John Jett, oh, John Jett, and 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.920 two quarterbacks wore number nineteen, one of them famous in 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:57.520 redskin Lord Cowboy, Red Longley and Kevin Sweeney. Kevin Sweeney 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.840 during the strike day, well, and he was after after that. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.679 He plays, He stuck around. Now he got he got 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.200 the stick. He got stick. He actually got to start 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.400 a game because Tex wanted to see him. So everybody 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.760 that says Jerry says, oh, I gotta see this guy 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.480 out there. Tech was insistent that they see what Kevin 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.720 Sweeney can do because they were trawled with him in 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.360 the strike games. Right, you know what, I'm insistent on 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.920 seeing what Amari Cooper can do. This current number nineteen. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.799 He went out there real quickly and threw like three 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.520 interceptions in the game. And that was a good coach though. Right, 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.440 that was the end of Sweeney. Okay, hopefully Cooper will 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.680 have a bunch of longer. Well he won't throw any interceptions. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.200 I hope. All right, m you did you were you 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.040 in on the media scrum around his locker. I believe 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.400 we were, Yeah, Rob and I yeah, you believe you were. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.600 I was on the outer boundary of it because if 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.240 he getting run in there like a crazy man to 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.360 get up front, you didn't hear very well, where you're 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.560 a crazy man up front? I was, you know me, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.680 I'm not getting to get too hyped about anything. And 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.000 he was interesting because he didn't. You know, he doesn't 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.440 get too hyped about anything. Oh, he had like fifty 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.400 people around him, and he was just kind of, Okay, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.040 what's the big fuss about him? In here to do 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.080 my job? And you know, it's nice to be here, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.640 And he said, who wouldn't be excited. I mean, he's 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.560 not a super boisterous guy at all, but I got 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.000 the sense he kept saying fresh start. I think with 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.159 what's going on in Oakland, I would imagine this is 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.800 a good situation to be in a team that's at 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.159 least in a division race right now, and he's got 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.240 a chance to be the featured guy. A bunch of 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.600 guys would like to get out of Oakland about now. Well, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.920 John Gree'll let you do. Probably all you gotta do 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.120 is raise your hand and you'll find a way out. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.000 John will move you along. Well, he's the reports are 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.800 up there that now are out there that you know, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.880 we're not trading anybody else. We're gonna try to be competitive. Sure, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.880 but I think the message has already been said. The 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.359 guys in that locker room don't know if they're staying 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.480 or going. Oh that's true, and that's a very difficult 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.240 situation to have to deal with. And he talked about 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.000 They asked how he found out, and he said, our 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.760 negotiator came out. I guess it's they're Bruce May's back 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.400 in the day. Uh. It sounded like it was the 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:16.119 guy that takes care of the cap and no, it wasn't. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.440 They went to get him to go to MS. Walsh 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.400 I think is the guy's name. Anyway, one of the 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.720 players said they saw the guy walking out and they 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.160 all looked at each other and goes, oh, here's the 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.200 grim Reaper. Somebody's leaving. So that's kind of what's happening 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.160 in Oakland right now. They're pretty aware of what's happening. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.240 And it's really when you think about it, we talked 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.920 about the message to this locker room, it's the reverse here. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.279 You know, they're not a one win team right now, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.520 they're three and four. It's not great, but they're saying 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.520 we're going for it. We're not giving up on the season, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.400 and why should they. They're only a game and a 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.760 half out of the division. But this is the complete 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.840 polar opposite message being sent from this front office to 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.280 this locker room. With bringing Cooper in here. You think 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.960 this is movie. We talk about it helping the offense 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.320 and helping the evaluation of Dak Prescott, but is it 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.159 really more about trying to help the defense? Maybe? I mean, 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.440 I know, Mickey, guys, everybody's been kind of talking to 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.240 Rob it and used well have talking about you know 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.760 that this defense is on championship pace, you know, if 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.560 you think about it, and when what they've been able 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:24.400 to Now they've got some really tough tests coming up Philadelphia, Atlanta. Yeah, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.760 we'll see where this defense is made of. But maybe 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.960 this is the preemptive strike that Okay, we're playing well 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.720 enough on defense, so we're gonna have to find a 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.880 way to score some points. But I think I said 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.240 this yesterday and I believe it with my whole heart 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:41.359 now that that this this is a message those defensive 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.320 players that hey, you know, the general managers saying, I 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.360 haven't given up on you guys. I'm gonna try and 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.440 help you here, you know, and I'm gonna try and 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.640 help this quarterback, but more importantly trying to help this defense. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:52.440 You know, these guys could go out there and get 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.960 some turnovers, get some short fields. I mean, haven't created 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.000 a whole hell of a lot of turnovers, but they've 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.560 been able to get some pressures, set a little bit 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.320 of leakage in the running game the other day. But 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.440 and that back is rare the way he plays for 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.560 old Man. But I you know, I think it's really 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.160 I think the defense. If you're again a defensive player, 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.480 you're you're sitting there thinking, all right, he's trying, he's 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.920 trying to help us, you know, yeah, more so even 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.600 more than the offense. You bring up a good point 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.480 about that they're going to be tested defensively in the 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.160 second half of this season. But right now, the way 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:23.960 they're playing, this is a group that you can take 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.160 into the playoffs if you get in and have a 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.520 chance to win games, because you know, if you can 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.600 hold teams to seventeen points, twenty points, let's playoff football 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.320 right there, All you need is a little bit more 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.600 juice offensively. I think that's the way they're looking at it. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.280 What if the argument is they're not good enough offensively 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.000 in the playoffs? Well, would that be why? Well, they're 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.640 they're not right now to be a topic, it's not. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.080 I mean that starts. What if you you made this 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.520 move and they're not good enough. I mean, the defense 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.920 still keeps playing well, but now you realize, okay, they're 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.000 not good enough. So are you saying that to make 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.160 a run. To make a run, well, then you like 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.040 you said yesterday, I think then you have to take 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.640 a macro view in the offseason of what's wrong with 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.200 everything offensively? What do we have to fix? But right 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.520 now they're going for it. Yeah. No, I applaud him 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.600 for doing that. You know that. I'm just sitting there 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.960 thinking Cooper could be a solution to the problem. It 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:21.040 may not be the total overall solution. I don't think 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.960 he comes in and I don't think he looks at 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.160 himself as well, I'm the savior now I'm going to 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.200 take care of everything. Well, you better hope he does. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.520 I mean, I know what you're saying, Mickey I just, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.840 I just I just would like to see him the 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.400 targets he gets, make receptions, makes some big plays, kind 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.959 of keeps some things going. Give you you said the 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.240 word rob, the word juice. Get this offensive little juice. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.560 You know, maybe the other guys around him, we'll start saying, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.640 all right, yeah, I get it. This guy. You know, 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.160 you watch him practice a little yesterday and I'm thinking, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.240 all right, this gotta go get the football. I've seen 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.679 him do it on tape. Explosive and I know what 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.199 we saw was routes on air, but you can see it. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.120 I mean, you can see the athletic ability. Mick. We 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.480 watched it for fifteen minutes. He runs so effortless, smooth. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.520 It's like he glides down the field like he's sliding 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.640 right down the field where other guys has got to 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.240 have a lot of body movement to run. He just 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.760 he's really smooth and he eats up ground really fast. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.720 Yeah and four three six forty coming out of college. Yeah, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.640 and only twenty four years old. I mean, the mistakes 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.400 that we made with Joey Galloway was an older guy. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.679 We gave up the extra pick that was that was 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.079 stupid on our part. But the thing about, you know, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.280 you try and get a guy at least as young 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.080 and you can kind of grow with a little bit. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.319 And Mickey's pointed out the contract and all that stuff 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.560 to me, you know, and we're gonna do the draft 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.800 show later on today. I know Dan Brugin his top 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.599 thirty two has got one wide receiver, you know, and 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.920 then it's you know, but people say, hey, well, Bross, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.640 maybe they're not gonna take a wide receiver. May they 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.000 need to take a safety, maybe they need to take 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.760 a tight end. I get that, but I just think 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.320 that if you're gonna go out and try and help 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.280 this team right now and help this defense, you know 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.000 this this was the right the right move to make, 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.720 what you know, And you can point out that they 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.160 could have taken something else for the first round, sure, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.920 but probably not likely. Everything's yeah, everything continued as is. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.199 The wide receiver was going to be a priority, absolutely 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.520 has to be. There was no question. Yeah, so you 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.880 know what do you want you want to you want 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.120 to safety over a wide receiver? I don't think so, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.480 you know, not when you were struggling at wide receivers. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.280 So yeah, that's kind of a people be focusing on 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.640 tight ends. Now get ready for that and that's yeah. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.760 I'm focused on one before next week. Yeah, get one 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.000 in here before next week. So yeah, Jeff Swaim is 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.439 gonna be out like he's going to be out a 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.679 couple of weeks for sure. Okay. Yeah. Um, and you 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.719 got four games in the span of eighteen days, so 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.079 if you're if they're saying a couple of weeks, it 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.400 could easily be four games before you know it. What 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.760 are the Giants? Have they got any excess? Well they don't. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.719 I don't know that. They consider Evan Ingram to be 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.640 Ulvin Ingra will be a lot of fun to have 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.600 if you could do that, and he really doesn't there. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.520 Who's their backup title, Well, they've got They've got Ellison. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.679 Red Ellison is one of them, and he had a 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.280 deal where he got down on the goal line the 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:16.640 other day. Red Ellison and then Scott's Simonson. The guys. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.120 If you guys can tell anything about Scott Simonson, I 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.959 would be amazed. I can't help you there, Yeah I will. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.199 The other thing too, sounds like somebody be running for Congress. Yeah, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.679 Scott Simonson, he needs your vote. The other option too, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.480 If you wanted to go out and get a receiver 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.320 if it's not the draft, and you would have had 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:38.040 to look at free agency, right and spend a lot 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.840 of money. Now, you know, down the road, if Cooper's 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.319 what they expect him to be, you're gonna have to 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.480 pay him to keep him around. But it's a manageable 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.280 contract for the next year and a half. And think 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.480 about and we had a mailback question about this this morning. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.679 I mean, look at all the decisions they have to 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.920 make on their current roster next year in current terms 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.960 of DeMarcus Byron Jones. Go ahead, Bill, keep, you can keep. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.719 I just I just landed on a tight end. Got 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.000 you got one? Cole Beasley. They getting rid of players 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.480 in Oakland. Yeah, and I was going through that last myself. Yeah. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.360 Jared Cook, Yeah, Jared Cook would be the one. Yeah, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.200 that would be the one you would you would if 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.160 and he's under he's a free agent next year, Yeah, absolutely, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.559 he's in his last year of his contract. Yeah. But 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.120 if you look at who the Raiders are starting to 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.280 tight end, it's Jared Cook, Lee Smith and not the 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:28.319 pitcher Lee Smith back in the day, and Derek Carrier, right, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.600 So those I mean, those are the three tight ends. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.520 I think if you wanted to go get a tight end, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.680 you know what this might be interesting is now check 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.480 the practice squads. Go poach a guy, you know, go Pochman. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.319 And I know that you could say, well, you want 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.360 to give a pickup for a guy, but a clean 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.200 way to get a guy that might be a young 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.120 guy that you kind of liked a little bit, go 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.719 poach a guy if someone's practice squad, Well, teams try 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.720 to do it with Jarwin. Yeah last year exactly. Yeah, 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.840 I think that that if you don't want to give 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.040 up the pick. But Bill, you mentioned it that that's 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.360 that's a fair name to mention because Cook is a 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.839 guy that people have talked about as well. I'm just 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.920 kind of yeah, and you're looking at a team that's 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.920 one in five, one in six, whatever they are, and uh, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.040 and he's in the last year of his contract, a 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.160 veteran guy, you know, his deal was two years, ten 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:16.400 million dollars. Got three tight ends. Yeah. No, you're absolutely 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.600 right though, Mickey, that that might be their thoughts. I mean, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.120 they you noticed they got Schultz involved in that game, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.719 and maybe they think he's maybe a little bit better 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.360 prepared now than he wasn't in training camp. They did 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.480 draft him for a reason, right, Yeah, so yeah, you 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.360 just have some inexperience there for sure, a whole lot. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.280 So yeah, it's something to consider. How many catches now 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.040 do the three tight ends have the three that are 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.480 that are not named Swain not named Swain? Well two 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:52.199 maybe Jarwin's got Schultz, Ultrico has two, Schultz has one, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:56.319 and Jarwin has two. Five right total? So five five receptions. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.760 Bill's guy Blake Bell from from jackson Yeah. The build up, right, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.600 he just he just signed last week with Jacksonville. Okay, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.559 might be a situation you might not get that guy. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.800 But that see what I'm I guess what I'm trying 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.319 to say too is and this was some of the 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.280 conversations I had over the weekend with some guys. They're 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.559 they're hunting tight ends, but if you look at really 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.319 the depth that a lot a lot of teams are 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.000 just carrying, you know, there's very few teams carrying like 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.840 four guys. A lot of teams are just carrying three guys, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.640 which would get him down to two. Yeah. So and 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.000 that's what you and then you have to look at 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.400 your own roster. I mean there's teams like Cincinnati. Okay, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.600 Baltimore's carrying four. Mark Andrews and Hayden Hurst. Those are 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.040 two guys they drafted. Max Williams was a draft pick 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.840 in two thousand and five, second round pick, and then 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.040 Nick Boyle is another guy that they have. So you know, 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.160 there's very few teams them Cincinnati are both carrying four 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.240 tight ends. Uh, the Mami Dolphins are carrying four tight ends. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.240 So yeah, you'd have to probably find somebody. That's why 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.880 I think that maybe you look at some of the 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.560 practice squad might be a way of trying to to 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.680 poach a guy. But then again, in is Jarwin not Jarwin? 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.520 Excuse me, swam not long term? Right? Is that what 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.440 you're telling me? Well, he's got a sprained MCL and 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.480 normally those are two to four. And if you look 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.640 at MALIEK. Collins, he missed three games. So does it 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.880 is it worth? It's not. It's not. You shouldn't put 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.360 him on the on the injured reserve. No, no, you 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.360 got to carry him. Okay, if you got three tight ends, tight, 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.160 yeah I don't. There's yeah, Right, they're gonna play with 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.120 the three they got, right, They're not this is not 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.320 going to be a guys can just do a little 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.560 bit of blocking, you know, down the edge. I'm I'll 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.400 throw out Red Ellison, but only because the type player 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.320 he is, he's under contract through for a couple more years, 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:49.360 and I'm not saying he's there. You go, is I 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.920 mean if you had, if you had a tight end 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.080 that you like somewhere, who could be an h BAC 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.520 type you know? Yeah, well I will trust me. You know, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.360 I can move I can move on from Thompson. I 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:05.000 hope his mom's not listening today, you know. Gotta watch 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.440 out for those gotta watch out for those moms. We're 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.040 learning the boys. We're learning that on these shows. But well, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.920 if his mom would like to call in eight eight, five, five, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.120 two two nine to seven. By the way, we've got 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.040 an abbreviated show today because Jason Garrett is at ten 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.200 old five. Yeah, maybe we should promote a Mother's Day 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.360 and only the mothers can call. Mickey one time trapped 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.600 me with Keith Smith's mom got about that in London 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.920 and luckily I said some really nice things and it 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.520 was on a show. We were doing a show there 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.440 at the at the Pub, and Mickey took a question 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.080 from Keith Smith's mom, and she asked a question about 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.240 Keith Smith, and you had no idea it was Keith. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.280 It was Keith Smith's mom. And I gave a really 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.000 a glowing scouting report, didn't I Micky about it? I 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:50.400 finished his answer with so, missus Smith answer, she made 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.760 the trip all the way out from she she used 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.480 to listen to our shows all the time by herself. Yeah, 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.880 I bet there's a bunch of parents to listen to 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.960 this show. Missus if you're listening, Hey, you know, God 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.720 bless you for calling in and talking about your son. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.840 I think. I think so if you're a parent of 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.639 a cowboy player and give us a call, I tell 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.000 you what our safety used to his mom and dad. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.680 I think listen quite a bit there, uh with uh, Jeff, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.920 Jeff Jeff, Yeah, Jeff Heath, Yeah, you know. Uh. And 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.000 I told when the guys asked me on the fan 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.840 about it, if he had anybody ever confront you, and 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.520 I said, yeah, I ran into Tony Romo's grandfather. Yeah, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.520 the Romo side of the family, and uh, he comes 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.800 up to me and he goes, I listen to what 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.720 you say. I see what you write about my my grandson, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.200 and I'm going, okay, here we go. And this was 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.960 before he no. I guess he had gotten good by then, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.840 and uh, he goes, you know what I like about you? 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.520 And I go, okay what and he goes, you know, 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.800 and my my grandson does well? You know you you 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.400 say he does well. And when he doesn't do well 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.000 and he should have his ask do you kick his ass? 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.800 And I'm going home, Okay, that's fair. I've had discussion 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.480 with Jerry Jones one day, same thing, not about apparent, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.520 but same kind of discussion about where where he says. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.600 He goes, hey, you've been kicking my ass pretty good. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.360 And I'm like, yes, here he goes, but you're fair 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.080 about it. So I'm like, oh, thank you. I thought 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.600 thanks thanks. I thought I was I thought I was 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.440 out the door. I thought you guys were down one? 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.680 All right? Any other position that you would like to 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.679 see the team add here as we lead end up 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.600 head up to the trade deadline. By the way, up 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.120 on Tuesday, you wanted a former Raider, you want another 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:39.600 former Raider? Obi Melifono was visiting today free agent safety 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.720 our second round pick. By the way, yeah, that Cowboys 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.200 took a look at good ones going on r R 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:51.359 probably yeah, and but Goodwin playing corner, right, Thompson's your 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.080 other Thompson's your fourth safe. Oh he was the sake. Yeah, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.000 Goodwin's the corner. And they're looking for a guy that 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.560 could potentially They liked Goodwin because he could cover on 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.360 on as a flyer. That was something they were really 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.200 really high on him. And there was a couple of 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.000 times Jacksonville and stuff that I thought he did a 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.560 pretty good job of of doing exactly that. So, yeah, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.680 they're looking for that type of a special teams guy. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:21.320 Another name remember Teddy Williams. Yeah, yes, he's visiting today 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.840 as well. Track guy. Remember when he showed up at 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.440 the Alamodome. He's still playing. Yeah, and he's still playing 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.240 ten years ago. Turned into a special team that's what 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.920 he is. He's a special Yeah, he's how many teams five? 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.919 Six a lot Carolina because he's still playing wide receiver 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.080 and he get converted. He's just a special teams guy. Really, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:46.359 he's a corner right yeah, lightning fast. Yeah, he's always 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.160 been fast, and that's the thing that that's what's kept 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.760 him around people. How many years he played at Carolina. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.520 I mean, it was crazy. How I mean the number 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.720 of years A couple of years he was I thought 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.639 it was longer than that. I think twenty sixteen he 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.639 got there. Yeah, he most recently with the Giants, and 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.480 they reportedly let him out of his contract to handle 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:10.840 a family issue back in August twenty fifteen to seventeen Carolina. Okay, 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.360 three years, right, yeah, fifteen sixteen, seventeen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.680 Giants practice squad this year. He can't be practice squad 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:23.720