Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Lettington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello, hello, Hello.
Speaker 3: Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of
Speaker 3: Call It What It Is a very special one because
Speaker 3: I'm I'm okay, I'm fan, we would your.
Speaker 4: Family woman, your fami lady, I'm fan coupling.
Speaker 2: Yes, got a thank you.
Speaker 4: I mean we're shipping, we'repp.
Speaker 2: There's other voices in the room, Camilla, who are they?
Speaker 5: Okay, we have what I hear I do, But we
Speaker 5: have a we have a guy.
Speaker 3: We have in our midst, the very first Golden Bachelorette
Speaker 3: and her pick of the season.
Speaker 2: I mean, don't talk. Don't ever say we didn't get
Speaker 2: you any thing for the holidays.
Speaker 5: I know because your romance for the holidays. You guys,
Speaker 5: they do so much for being with us today. We're
Speaker 5: geeking out. When I told people that you guys were
Speaker 5: coming on, I got like a lot of questions, a
Speaker 5: lot of text and a lot of questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, they want to they really are they real?
Speaker 6: People keep asking us that if you're really you guys
Speaker 6: are really like if you were like, are really a
Speaker 6: couple old?
Speaker 7: Okay, so let's start there because I think it's a
Speaker 7: good place to start. Sure, Okay, because I guess my
Speaker 7: first question would be, did either of you take turns
Speaker 7: answering watch reality television before going on to a reality
Speaker 7: television show?
Speaker 4: So you can answer that, because did you even watch
Speaker 4: the Bachelorette or Bachelor ever?
Speaker 8: No? And I told the producers beforehand, I said, I
Speaker 8: haven't seen anything, and not any reality TV. Maybe Survivor
Speaker 8: when it came out twenty five years It was a
Speaker 8: good show years ago, so I have no idea. One
Speaker 8: of the little jokes was there's a Golden Road was
Speaker 8: in the Rose ceremony room? Yes, and it's in case.
Speaker 8: I had no idea what it was, what it was for.
Speaker 8: And Jones said at the end, just a couple of dies,
Speaker 8: and she goes, that's what you get at the end.
Speaker 4: That's why you're here, that's what you want.
Speaker 5: Did you watch her okay, once you knew you were
Speaker 5: coming on the show, did you watch her season?
Speaker 8: No? I'm a reader and I don't even have cable TV,
Speaker 8: and so I just read everything I could.
Speaker 5: And okay, you read everything about her about her.
Speaker 8: In about a little bit about the show and a
Speaker 8: little bit about Gary, the other contestants, but it's just
Speaker 8: going online. But then now we all know this, how
Speaker 8: much of that's true?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of that I wanted to do it.
Speaker 8: I could have gone on, you know, could have gone
Speaker 8: and watched it, but I wanted it to just be fresh.
Speaker 1: I was looking for something new, and you I'm seeing
Speaker 1: from you not had watched reality television before and obviously
Speaker 1: had been on another show. So I guess again going
Speaker 1: back to like is it real when you were watching
Speaker 1: as a as an audience member, were you believing what
Speaker 1: you were seeing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 6: Really doubt it. I mean, so it was all younger
Speaker 6: seasons at the time, and yes, certainly the beginning ones
Speaker 6: seemed more authentic then as they went along, And like
Speaker 6: everybody has this notion that now that it's been on
Speaker 6: for a bunch of years, a lot of people are
Speaker 6: on their show because they want to be famous, they
Speaker 6: want to be Instagram, you know, they want to be influencers.
Speaker 6: So like that's kind of a narrative that's going around.
Speaker 4: But the like original kind of.
Speaker 6: Bachelor, like Trista, like you know, in those earlier seasons
Speaker 6: were really real, and so I believe still marry right, yeah, yeah, gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: There's two like teenage kids. They're so very like they
Speaker 6: are like the iconic Bachelor couple. So I certainly believed it,
Speaker 6: you know, going into it, that it could happen. And
Speaker 6: I felt like our seasons, the Golden Bachelor and our season,
Speaker 6: since they're so new, our way more kind of pure,
Speaker 6: they haven't been like there hasn't been a different narrative yet.
Speaker 6: People aren't there to become famous. We're a little older,
Speaker 6: we're not trying to be influencers and what.
Speaker 2: We're bagging into.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you believed that you could fall in love
Speaker 1: on television as you went into this.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 6: I was I believe that it could happen. I wasn't
Speaker 6: sure it could happen for me. So I went in
Speaker 6: maybe a little skeptical, but hopeful because like I do,
Speaker 6: believe in the process. So they do all this a
Speaker 6: betting for you, and they kind of knew me. So
Speaker 6: I was on Golden Bachelor first, So when I came
Speaker 6: on this and the producers were starting to go through
Speaker 6: the process of casting the guys, they knew me.
Speaker 4: So they kind of knew what I was.
Speaker 6: Interested in, knew what I would like, and so they
Speaker 6: kind of bet them for you. So that whole like
Speaker 6: initial part of your dating where you're just getting to
Speaker 6: know each other, that part is kind of done for you.
Speaker 6: The timeline that looks really really short, well you've skipped
Speaker 6: a good month or two that you.
Speaker 4: Don't have to worry about.
Speaker 6: It's already all those you know, danger red flag things
Speaker 6: are kind of sports cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We will previously reference by dates and sports cars, sports
Speaker 1: cars and not and we're.
Speaker 4: Not into that.
Speaker 5: Do you feel like the show ever, because sometimes I
Speaker 5: watch the show and I'm like, it's so obvious to
Speaker 5: me that that's not going to be the right person.
Speaker 5: Was there anyone in your group that you felt like
Speaker 5: was a plant for drama?
Speaker 4: Yes, for drama, though for drama a pod be talking
Speaker 4: about because.
Speaker 9: You're like, I just felt like a little too smooth,
Speaker 9: I got a little too like maybe the shows you
Speaker 9: want the show to be more about you, And I'm
Speaker 9: I'm not sure that that's a controversial thing to say,
Speaker 9: because people initially had Maybe you felt like he didn't
Speaker 9: pass the small tests.
Speaker 4: How you say it, like, yeah, so there's a lot
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 6: So I do agree with what you're saying now, but
Speaker 6: as I was going through the process.
Speaker 3: Or was it editing, you can tell me like editing,
Speaker 3: like sort of sitting it that way.
Speaker 6: I feel like it was pretty accurate. They add for him,
Speaker 6: not for everybody, but for him, I felt like.
Speaker 4: Edit was good.
Speaker 6: I don't see anything that happens in the mansion. I
Speaker 6: am not living there, so I don't so all like
Speaker 6: the kind of funny stuff that he did talking about
Speaker 6: all his designer stuff and not helping in the kitchen
Speaker 6: and not doing his own laundry and all that stuff
Speaker 6: that like.
Speaker 4: Probably would have been red flags for me. I didn't
Speaker 4: see any of that.
Speaker 6: So, like my interactions with him were like way different
Speaker 6: than what you So the Pascal that I got to
Speaker 6: know was not what the rest of the world was
Speaker 6: getting to know. Like he was just one on one
Speaker 6: with me, talked about his son and raising him and
Speaker 6: talking about you know, kind of growing up in you know,
Speaker 6: crappy conditions and not having a very loving family and
Speaker 6: him just coming to maryor not speaking English. So like
Speaker 6: a lot of the narrative I got from him was
Speaker 6: very different because I didn't have all that other external
Speaker 6: stuff about how he acted in the house and you
Speaker 6: know all that stuff. I didn't know about it. So
Speaker 6: when I then watched the season, I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: a different person, Like he made it really far for
Speaker 6: me without me knowing so much about them.
Speaker 4: But this happens on the show.
Speaker 5: This is one of the things that is kind of fascinating.
Speaker 5: Did you feel like you had a good instinct on
Speaker 5: the guys in the house?
Speaker 8: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: How like du clock.
Speaker 2: It the first night and the next morning you got
Speaker 2: to read on all of them.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at his eyes and I believe.
Speaker 8: One of the things that came up. But again I
Speaker 8: can ramble.
Speaker 4: But dishwasher didn't work, okay.
Speaker 8: And there's a reason it didn't work because it brings
Speaker 8: you around the kitchen and it brings around the guy.
Speaker 8: So some guys would cook, some guys would clean those
Speaker 8: you know, do the dishes.
Speaker 4: Oh you're saying on purpose?
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And they go, well, that's not going to work,
Speaker 8: And I go, I'll pay for a new one, yeah,
Speaker 8: and they go no. But you know, I think it
Speaker 8: was smart to do it because I did them.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: He was part of the community, the community, George, and
Speaker 6: it's been broken forever.
Speaker 4: It was broken in Gilden the batter season, and there's
Speaker 4: been two other seasons that's no, no, no.
Speaker 5: So you felt like even just from a dynamic of
Speaker 5: that in the kitchen in the morning, you could tell
Speaker 5: who was by launch.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's very true.
Speaker 2: Did you know who your real competition was?
Speaker 8: You know? It varied is the season went alone and
Speaker 8: the filming did. I was the guy that I was
Speaker 8: probably the most concerned about was Mark because he's such
Speaker 8: a good man. Mark Anderson is just a solid guy.
Speaker 8: He's in there doing dishes, he was cooking. He was
Speaker 8: just a polite guy. And you sit there and you go,
Speaker 8: you know, if it was my sister, you know, and
Speaker 8: if he was my brother in law. I love the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 8: a little soft spoken, but he's a he's a good man.
Speaker 8: And there was other guys. But he had come back
Speaker 8: from a date with Joan and they went on the
Speaker 8: shot and we go bring back the fish because I
Speaker 8: love to Yeah, that's kind of thing I want to
Speaker 8: do is butcher fish and do all this. And he
Speaker 8: came back and he was just glowing. He goes, I
Speaker 8: just had the most fabulous date and he goes, it
Speaker 8: was great. We played these games and I'm sitting there
Speaker 8: going that that's that might be the guy. And then guys,
Speaker 8: you know, I thought guy Guy's got a lot to
Speaker 8: bring to the table. The guy Guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 8: You know, the whole time, he goes, Chuck, it's going
Speaker 8: to be you and me the final two and uh,
Speaker 8: you know that was his opinion, and I Joan had
Speaker 8: kind of given me some hints.
Speaker 5: It's interesting you were saying this right now because the
Speaker 5: people that we've spoken to felt early that it was
Speaker 5: you and that guy was not really.
Speaker 2: In the in the running like it was.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was like very clear.
Speaker 3: There was a spark that like was not there for
Speaker 3: other people.
Speaker 8: It was over. It was over at Disneyland. That's what
Speaker 8: It was the most magical place in the world.
Speaker 4: So that is true.
Speaker 6: I mean, we had an immediate spark and immunia attraction,
Speaker 6: and we got along so well to the point where
Speaker 6: we were walking around Disneyland and we had a huge
Speaker 6: film crew because since it was Disney and you know,
Speaker 6: the network is not by Disney, they had like a
Speaker 6: lot of people they are with us, and you know,
Speaker 6: after the first maybe thirty minutes, they go, well, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, you should be looking at like some of
Speaker 6: the sights at Disney and making comments about that because
Speaker 6: we were just having a great conversation. We were just
Speaker 6: like immediately we hit it off. But I knew I
Speaker 6: had since I've watched the show and I see a
Speaker 6: lot of times people hone in on a person right away.
Speaker 6: They're like, this is my God, yes, and then sometime
Speaker 6: within the season, in the first three or four weeks,
Speaker 6: they discovered that they're a different person, and then they're
Speaker 6: really behind because they really haven't given real time to
Speaker 6: other people.
Speaker 4: So I was.
Speaker 6: Very conscious of that, and I said, I am not
Speaker 6: going to hone in on somebody right away, even though
Speaker 6: like I felt like this was going to be good.
Speaker 6: I felt like when I went on dates with other people,
Speaker 6: I needed to, you know, actually put the work into
Speaker 6: it that they could possibly be the person, because I
Speaker 6: didn't want to go and get to week four.
Speaker 4: It's just not long enough.
Speaker 6: If you get to week four and you haven't established
Speaker 6: you know, a relationship, a bond, a connection, it's too late.
Speaker 6: So I was like, I was trying to establish other connections.
Speaker 1: Because you had watched it and you did believe that
Speaker 1: that you could fall in love you.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm hearing you say that.
Speaker 1: There was also kind of like a strategy, not strategy
Speaker 1: in a bad way, strategy like this is because you
Speaker 1: said something else where. I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: on some level, whoever's in the house going on the date,
Speaker 1: it's like there's a competition.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and they didn't show that. They did
Speaker 8: not show the competition, but it was, you know, from
Speaker 8: what I understood, it was we all got along great.
Speaker 8: There really wasn't a lot of competition.
Speaker 4: There wasn't which is not normal.
Speaker 5: Correct from the ladies in your season even we're a
Speaker 5: little like hard.
Speaker 6: Yes, So that was surprising. So in the beginning, everybody's
Speaker 6: really cordial and you're getting to know each other and
Speaker 6: there is like a whole element of it, like you
Speaker 6: found your tribe. So you have been at this weird
Speaker 6: place in life in your sixties or you know some
Speaker 6: of the people from the Golden Bachelor season more than
Speaker 6: the seventies even, and you walk into a room and
Speaker 6: finally you're with people who's being in your sixties and
Speaker 6: seventies and being single is a weird place to be
Speaker 6: because everybody you know is a couple. Everybody at that
Speaker 6: age is a couple, and there's very few peers that
Speaker 6: people understand that. Like, so you go out with your
Speaker 6: girlfriends and they all go home to their husbands, and
Speaker 6: you go home to an empty house, and everybody goes
Speaker 6: on a couple of vacations and they don't invite you,
Speaker 6: And when you go to all wedding, you are the
Speaker 6: night those vacations.
Speaker 2: If you were, then just say I feel like I
Speaker 2: bust in on those vacations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would be, but by the way, I feel
Speaker 5: like this is a feeling that people have.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm offering your languages. True, you know a
Speaker 4: lot of majors.
Speaker 6: You're right here, Yeah, but particularly being you know, at
Speaker 6: this age, because it's very hard to fix it. It's
Speaker 6: very hard to find. The dating at this age is
Speaker 6: not easy. They're the pool of people small, especially if
Speaker 6: you want to stay in your area, which is easier.
Speaker 6: So you walk into this mansion and there you are,
Speaker 6: like I was, there were twenty other one people that
Speaker 6: got it, like they were my peers. They ask the
Speaker 6: people that I could finally, like, you know, they were
Speaker 6: friends that understood where I was in life. So you
Speaker 6: have this immediate bond. But then it starts to unravel
Speaker 6: a little bit and the.
Speaker 4: Main comes in.
Speaker 6: So Gary comes in and some people are really interested
Speaker 6: in them, and that's when the competition starts other of us.
Speaker 6: And I have the feeling that I would never want
Speaker 6: him or anyone to pick me as like like the
Speaker 6: runner upper, like they like by default because they just
Speaker 6: didn't have any more time. I want, like I wanted
Speaker 6: him to explore everybody in that house.
Speaker 4: I want you to go.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do it with every single one
Speaker 6: of them before me. Yeah, if you find somebody great,
Speaker 6: it's not me. I would never want somebody to pick
Speaker 6: me because you know they hadn't you know, they had
Speaker 6: a question in their mind.
Speaker 4: So but other people don't.
Speaker 6: People don't always think that way, Like if I put
Speaker 6: in enough time all make her love me.
Speaker 4: And it really doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean the competition part of it,
Speaker 1: because ultimately there's a prize, right and someone wins.
Speaker 4: You go in with any strategy.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing, so I feel
Speaker 2: do you feel like a winner?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 8: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: Someone knows strategy who won?
Speaker 8: And I went back and looked at the contract and
Speaker 8: the contract list you as a contestant so it at
Speaker 8: you're not a cast member, you're a contestant. Yes, And
Speaker 8: but the guys were so polite, so professional, so friendly,
Speaker 8: we didn't look at it. We wanted the right person
Speaker 8: to be with Joan. There were a couple of guys
Speaker 8: that really did care about Joan. And that's tough because
Speaker 8: I'm friends with them. But that's life.
Speaker 4: Are you still friends with them now or is it different?
Speaker 8: Okay, guy, and we talked. I talked to absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: A lot of the guys, got five of them meeting
Speaker 8: me in Kansas City for a Chiefs game on Sunday.
Speaker 5: Stopping going to be there.
Speaker 10: It's over this week, okay, the dates?
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about you guys walking around Disneyland.
Speaker 1: And I, I mean, as actors were very versed in
Speaker 1: doing things and pretending like a camera is not there.
Speaker 1: Did you get to the point where you could pretend
Speaker 1: a camera was not there?
Speaker 4: Or were you at your first season?
Speaker 5: I mean, you're you're a little bit more seasoned in it,
Speaker 5: but for you, it's there's show.
Speaker 8: The producers and I don't know the exact term, they
Speaker 8: did such a good job the interviews. You can't even
Speaker 8: tell there's a TV when they told me I was
Speaker 8: going to be on the show, and there was a
Speaker 8: letter that came out and says, you're not You know
Speaker 8: you're not a finalist. You can't say you are, that's
Speaker 8: one thing. But so I flew out to La and
Speaker 8: I thought they'd do some screen testing and I'd never
Speaker 8: been behind a camp or in front of a camera.
Speaker 8: H You never had no idea, but they do a
Speaker 8: fantastic job with it, and then you just kind of
Speaker 8: you just go.
Speaker 5: With if you feel intimate. I mean, because we're we
Speaker 5: can forget the cameras and our scenes, but if a
Speaker 5: camera was on me and my husband, it would be
Speaker 5: so hard to have these intimate conversations, let alone kiss
Speaker 5: and really be in the moment. Does it take a
Speaker 5: second to get used to that? Or the cameras so
Speaker 5: far away that you don't.
Speaker 8: Really even if it was close, It didn't bother me
Speaker 8: at all. You had to kiss at Bora Bora, And
Speaker 8: it was one of those ones because they go, you know,
Speaker 8: when you think about someone else, and I said, they're
Speaker 8: a woman in the world. To kiss a guy like that,
Speaker 8: that's thinking about someone else with.
Speaker 1: Someone telling you one thing, like you were getting fed
Speaker 1: and information about.
Speaker 8: There's a little bit of reality because guy was still
Speaker 8: I didn't know that Joan, you know, had had told
Speaker 8: that the guy.
Speaker 5: So you're like, I gotta I gotta win this, I
Speaker 5: gotta seal.
Speaker 11: But then you.
Speaker 4: And then he felt good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a moment where you can say to
Speaker 1: the camera, is like, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Only in fantasy suite.
Speaker 6: So that's the whole thing about fantasy suits that you
Speaker 6: are never not on camera, even if there isn't a
Speaker 6: camera in your face, it's in the ceiling, there's a
Speaker 6: camera there.
Speaker 2: You are always, always, always mean for the fantasy suite.
Speaker 6: Ye, except for the fantasy suites, which is why like,
Speaker 6: if the fantasy suite is important, so on. You know,
Speaker 6: most seasons or very few bauchery of baucherettes have not
Speaker 6: done fantasy suites. Effect, I don't think any have not
Speaker 6: done it. And and I felt really weird about fantasy suites.
Speaker 6: First of all, I have a thing with p DA.
Speaker 11: We could talk hours, like, don't touch me, we're in
Speaker 11: publicly kiss her hotel?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I listen, I think.
Speaker 4: A little keep things a little spicy and juicy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you chance for spicy, sexy juicy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, let's talk about the fantasy. So I was
Speaker 6: I didn't feel great well, So most of the time
Speaker 6: the cameras and I didn't even notice them. A guy,
Speaker 6: I got super comfortable with cameras, but when like it
Speaker 6: came to kissing and stuff, they made me very, very uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: I do not do like public displaced affections. Just I
Speaker 6: don't like and I didn't come I didn't grow up
Speaker 6: in a family that that was particularly we weren't a
Speaker 6: touchy Philly family. So I have like parents that just
Speaker 6: love me to death, and I always knew that, and
Speaker 6: I always felt that they My mom and dad didn't
Speaker 6: hold hands like it wasn't something I knew they loved
Speaker 6: each other, but it just wasn't their love at all.
Speaker 6: So and they were very affectionate to my brother and I,
Speaker 6: but like as a couple, that's not what I grew
Speaker 6: up with.
Speaker 4: So I'm just not that way.
Speaker 6: I'm just not like a touchy I'm not always touching
Speaker 6: him and I'm not holding hands. I don't walk down
Speaker 6: the street holding his hand and he is a handholder.
Speaker 4: So there's all these like things that we have to like, I.
Speaker 6: Have to figure I have to be better about because
Speaker 6: it is his love language, and I have.
Speaker 4: To be conscious of that.
Speaker 2: Well you mean in the middle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and yeah we're doing good, We're about here.
Speaker 6: But come So he stayed with me at Thanksgiving and
Speaker 6: he'd come down in the kitchen and my kids would
Speaker 6: be like, I have adult children, like my kids are
Speaker 6: like in the thirty twenties and thirties, and they would say, so,
Speaker 6: how do you sleep?
Speaker 4: And he'd be like, your mom kept me up all night?
Speaker 4: Like this is god, oh god, I want to get
Speaker 4: back to fantasy.
Speaker 5: But let's talk about the kiss that you did straight
Speaker 5: up with the kids there.
Speaker 4: You went in for a smooth.
Speaker 5: Can believe you did that on So let's talk about that,
Speaker 5: because now now you know that, like it's not your
Speaker 5: m O and you're like, how did that go down?
Speaker 8: Actually? But you never saw it on the TV on
Speaker 8: the show. Show is at the hometowns because I had
Speaker 8: and they told me it's probably the biggest group they've
Speaker 8: ever had, and we had over thirty family and friends
Speaker 8: of mine there. So when we walked up, I was
Speaker 8: holding Jones hand and I gave her a kiss in
Speaker 8: front of everybody. And it was probably a little selfish,
Speaker 8: but I wanted him to know that I cared about
Speaker 8: this person being young, and I thought it was a
Speaker 8: great introduction. You know, I don't know how you felt.
Speaker 4: But how did you feel?
Speaker 2: Be honest?
Speaker 6: I well, so it was his hometown, so I feel
Speaker 6: like he was in charge. So up until that point,
Speaker 6: like I'm in charge of everything. So every day he
Speaker 6: was about me and me figuring it out and me
Speaker 6: like telling it so like I loved it that he
Speaker 6: was in control.
Speaker 4: That was a little much for me. I never told
Speaker 4: him that, but it did.
Speaker 6: But I thought, Okay, this is this is how he
Speaker 6: acts in front of his family friends, So I have
Speaker 6: to accept that that's the way he is in front.
Speaker 4: Of his guys.
Speaker 8: It was just a little pack yeah.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, We're not going for a full on
Speaker 4: makeout slash.
Speaker 5: Maybe I think it's I I find it very endearing
Speaker 5: and I think that I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, but are you a PDA person. We've never
Speaker 4: talked about this. I love a little PDA. Yeah you are.
Speaker 8: You're from Missouri. I say, it's a Midwestern thing. I've
Speaker 8: got a guy that I worked at.
Speaker 4: Don't tell me every day.
Speaker 5: I'm not married to an Indiana boy. And so I
Speaker 5: get the Midwest PDA, but.
Speaker 4: That is where are you from. I'm from England. Actually
Speaker 4: it doesn't I.
Speaker 2: Lost she didn't lose it, she just doesn't use it.
Speaker 8: If I'm not sure, how long have you been in the.
Speaker 5: States, I have been so I'm forty and I've been
Speaker 5: in the States since i was twenty one so but
Speaker 5: I lived in the States for two years also when
Speaker 5: I was younger, so about half my life. But I
Speaker 5: really my best husband and he's all we're both about
Speaker 5: the PDA, which our kids are not a fan of
Speaker 5: the Yeah, they're they're like gross, Okay, let's talk about
Speaker 5: fantasy sweets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've been asked, really wants to know about this?
Speaker 5: Well, here's why I'm gonna be. I've never had a
Speaker 5: couple in front of me, and I'm a fan of
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 4: I do feel like sexual.
Speaker 5: Chemistry is super important, right, and so I oftentimes whenever
Speaker 5: I'm watching any season, feel like that's the night that
Speaker 5: they really know because they know waking up like if
Speaker 5: it was there, if.
Speaker 2: It wasn't there, implied that sex has happened.
Speaker 5: It's implied that sex has happened. But I'm saying, whatever
Speaker 5: has happened you know, because they're more intimate than they
Speaker 5: get to ever be.
Speaker 4: You come out.
Speaker 3: Chill.
Speaker 4: No, you're not chilling, are you kidding? You're going for it.
Speaker 4: So for me, I was a little different about that.
Speaker 6: So I had a hard time picturing like having sex
Speaker 6: with three different guys in one week.
Speaker 8: Yes, sex with two guys and making love with another,
Speaker 8: but the opportunities on the table because to do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I decided, even like before I came on
Speaker 6: the season, that like that just was not me.
Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 6: And so I got about halfway through the season and
Speaker 6: I was afraid to tell anybody that I didn't want
Speaker 6: to do fantasy.
Speaker 4: You didn't change your mind.
Speaker 5: You were like, you know what, three sounds great together.
Speaker 4: Try that's going to be so okay, Okay, so you're
Speaker 4: not so like, I don't think that I want to
Speaker 4: do three.
Speaker 6: But I'm afraid to tell the producers this because I'm
Speaker 6: afraid they're to be like, oh, that's not how this works.
Speaker 6: We're not going to or even if they say, okay,
Speaker 6: like you can do whatever you want, but we're gonna
Speaker 6: like shoot it, like that's going to happen because this
Speaker 6: show and I didn't want that either. I wanted I
Speaker 6: kind of wanted to not necessarily make a statement, but
Speaker 6: I wanted it to be shown that you don't have
Speaker 6: to do fantasy suites, Like you can go into fantasy
Speaker 6: suites and that can be a chance to you know,
Speaker 6: have like emotional intimacy.
Speaker 4: And he was a really no person.
Speaker 6: Came important conversations that you you really need to have,
Speaker 6: but it doesn't need to.
Speaker 4: Have to have.
Speaker 6: You don't have to have like the physical element of it,
Speaker 6: so or at least not that much of a physical eliment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So about halfway through the season, right before we were
Speaker 6: going to hometowns, I said to my producer we were walking.
Speaker 6: He was always trying to get his steps in every night,
Speaker 6: and we get to be like eleven thirties, Like I
Speaker 6: need two thousand more steps, and I'm so I would
Speaker 6: go on a walk with him around like the hotel.
Speaker 6: So we were walking one night and I was like, Bradford,
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you something. I said, I don't want
Speaker 6: to do fantasy suites. I said, in fact, I'm not
Speaker 6: going to. I said, I want to do fantasy suites,
Speaker 6: but I don't want to have a bed in them.
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, all right, I want to swing.
Speaker 4: I was yeah, just.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so I I. So he's like, let me
Speaker 6: talk to like everybody, and he came back like a
Speaker 6: couple ofays later, he's like, yeah, they're good with it.
Speaker 4: That's fine. So what they can't force that. But I
Speaker 4: wanted it.
Speaker 6: To be more than just not like me knowing I'm
Speaker 6: not doing that and I tell them the guys, I
Speaker 6: wanted to actually like be a statement, a statement a
Speaker 6: little bit and not because I felt like I needed
Speaker 6: to make a statement other than I did want. So
Speaker 6: I felt the pressure and I'm old. I'm sixty one
Speaker 6: years old, and I fought the pressure to do this,
Speaker 6: And I think does everybody feel that pressure? Even the
Speaker 6: young the younger people feeling that pressure that they need
Speaker 6: to do this they are, Yeah, I kind of feel
Speaker 6: like they are. And I was I kind of wanted
Speaker 6: to just say you don't have to, like, you don't have.
Speaker 4: To do that.
Speaker 1: So I did you talk to the guys or did
Speaker 1: you say to the guys like this is yeah the experience,
Speaker 1: this is not going to be part.
Speaker 6: Of this is not gonna be so every night like
Speaker 6: for those three Fantasy Suite sorry, just have to.
Speaker 2: Pass for a second.
Speaker 1: Was that a disappointment or a relief or a like
Speaker 1: because you're on because.
Speaker 8: You were Yeah, actually we were at dinner and you've
Speaker 8: got all these cameras on you, and she goes, I'm
Speaker 8: doing something different, and I was like, I really appreciated
Speaker 8: it because I didn't want to think of that, you know,
Speaker 8: of her being in bed with other people, even if
Speaker 8: they didn't make love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's intimate. Is it's very It's always very into
Speaker 4: my onw the show.
Speaker 6: And it's also been an issue with some couples that
Speaker 6: come off the show that the and it's generally a
Speaker 6: girl lead with the guy, you know, contestants, and they
Speaker 6: have a problem. The guys have a problem that she
Speaker 6: slept with other people. Yes, and that wasn't the reason
Speaker 6: I didn't do it. I just and whatever anybody else does,
Speaker 6: if they want to do that, that's not my decision.
Speaker 4: That my personal decision. I didn't want to.
Speaker 6: So normally, you know, you come to the evening part
Speaker 6: of the Fantasy Suite Daid and they have the key
Speaker 6: with the key and my note just said something different,
Speaker 6: said like in you know, I'd like to spend time
Speaker 6: with you in the fantasy suite. I want to have conversations,
Speaker 6: but you know, there's not going to be a bad
Speaker 6: and there's not going to be like a physical part
Speaker 6: of this.
Speaker 1: Yes, So was there not a physical part of it
Speaker 1: until the engagement.
Speaker 5: Is Did you feel like he was a gamble, like
Speaker 5: you can get to like.
Speaker 8: Throw it out that it wouldn't be sexually compatible.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I think.
Speaker 5: That that's It's not that it's not that someone's like
Speaker 5: bad and bed or great and bet or it's just
Speaker 5: a natural chemistry in the same way a natural kiss has.
Speaker 4: Chemistry, which they have.
Speaker 2: They just talked about it.
Speaker 4: They have that.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying that you're getting engaged, You're you're committing
Speaker 5: to being together without having done that intimate act. Was
Speaker 5: there any part of you, either of you, that were
Speaker 5: worried that, like when it came down to it, that
Speaker 5: would be a bust.
Speaker 8: We had a and I won't go into details, but
Speaker 8: please we had a conversation on at my hometown's on
Speaker 8: a bus and there weren't any cameras around.
Speaker 4: Apparently there's never a second. I know, it's like we're
Speaker 4: really hot.
Speaker 6: And they had like one of those printer buses waiting
Speaker 6: with some crew in it, and they're like just getting
Speaker 6: the ban and like, you know, sit there to cool
Speaker 6: off for a minute.
Speaker 4: And we didn't have any cameras on this.
Speaker 5: You're like, okay, I got exclusive exclusive what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 6: So we had we had little, like just normal conversation.
Speaker 4: Then he goes, so I just have to how do
Speaker 4: you feel about sex? I love that conversation.
Speaker 12: He's like okay, good, yeah, yeah, And then I'll go
Speaker 12: ahead and miss is if I get the look, tell
Speaker 12: me that we're at that stage.
Speaker 8: We've been married for like five years. So we do
Speaker 8: the engagement. We come back and they do a big
Speaker 8: party for the crew and we kind of busted in
Speaker 8: you're not supposed to go, and.
Speaker 4: We well, we didn't have the key to your room.
Speaker 4: We had to go get it from your producer.
Speaker 8: And it was fun. They were all in there having fun.
Speaker 8: And the boat. They were taking the boat from Bora
Speaker 8: Bora back to Tahiti. Because we were flying out in
Speaker 8: a day or two, we stayed an extra day and
Speaker 8: the boat was rocky, just like this, and I get
Speaker 8: seasick and they've got a doctor with you. Twenty four
Speaker 8: to seven, and he gave me like four doses of Gramma.
Speaker 8: We got back to the room. I was out, so
Speaker 8: it did not have I mean it was it was industrial.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I go back to my own room.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: You so we don't just don't let everybody know we
Speaker 8: don't have a problem.
Speaker 2: Okay, they wouldn't let everyone know, but there's not a problem.
Speaker 5: It isn't It is an important part of relations, and.
Speaker 6: I think that's also important to talk about that on
Speaker 6: this particular show, just because you know, people look at
Speaker 6: older people and you know, go, oh, you know they're
Speaker 6: over that.
Speaker 4: It's not true.
Speaker 2: To stop you.
Speaker 1: You keep saying old, but really, do you really do
Speaker 1: you see yourself as old?
Speaker 6: I don't really, but it is called the Golden Bachelor,
Speaker 6: and you know there are I'm looking.
Speaker 2: At you both in person.
Speaker 1: I know, get to be a person A lot of
Speaker 1: times you do this on I know, I like this
Speaker 1: so much, so much better. But I mean, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at people who are super vibrant and engaged and nothing
Speaker 1: about see together. I'm only saying I'm only going back
Speaker 1: to it because you've said it twice. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say that in my particular in my opinion, but I.
Speaker 4: Understand what you're saying. I mean is you're more ma sure,
Speaker 4: like you actually.
Speaker 1: Are coming into relationships with some experience, whereas I think,
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not people are trying to become
Speaker 1: influencers off the show, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't speak to that, but I think that no.
Speaker 1: Matter what you're unless you're a really old soul, if
Speaker 1: you come at twenty two years of age, you probably
Speaker 1: haven't had a whole lot of experience.
Speaker 2: Well, it was people in general.
Speaker 5: What's interesting is I had not I had stopped watching
Speaker 5: the show for a few seasons because I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, they always break up and people are
Speaker 5: coming on for the wrong reasons. And I got back
Speaker 5: into it because of the Golden Bachelor, even though they're
Speaker 5: not together anymore, because I felt like all the contestants
Speaker 5: I could tell were.
Speaker 4: Really in it. I know, in it for the right reasons.
Speaker 5: I know it's like the same, but it felt really true.
Speaker 5: I have a question about kids, because you had gone
Speaker 5: through the first season and then you came back.
Speaker 4: Were they at all.
Speaker 5: Afraid that you are going to get your heart broken again?
Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, it's funny that your kids. So you
Speaker 6: take care of your kids, you're their caregiver for so
Speaker 6: many years. Yeah, and then it evolves in a really
Speaker 6: weird way and it happens like before you know it,
Speaker 6: and they start worrying about you, which has never happened before.
Speaker 6: And this was the first indication that my kids started
Speaker 6: worrying about me. And maybe a little bit after my
Speaker 6: husband passed away, like they kind of came a little
Speaker 6: bit more of the caregiver than the takers. They became
Speaker 6: the givers, not the takers a little more. Yeah, And
Speaker 6: when I went on this show, they were worried about it.
Speaker 6: They know that I'm a really strong person, but they
Speaker 6: you know, there is an element that they I finally
Speaker 6: got to a place after John passed away of being comfortable,
Speaker 6: like not having anks, not crying, not you know, you retreating.
Speaker 6: I kind of got comfortable in my own skin and
Speaker 6: in my life, and they didn't want me to go backwards.
Speaker 6: So this like shaking up your life, like this is
Speaker 6: a leap of faith because you could go from having
Speaker 6: a really nice, comfortable life that you really need to
Speaker 6: shake up, but is it the best life that you
Speaker 6: could lead? And so by taking the sleep of faith
Speaker 6: and saying I'm willing to risk it for the reward,
Speaker 6: risk my comfort, my happiness and being in a good
Speaker 6: place in life, for a better life, and it could happen.
Speaker 4: But that's scary for my kids. It was scary for me,
Speaker 4: but it was scary for my kids too.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, my guess is for your kids, there's a level
Speaker 1: of exposure.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 2: That is just true, unlike any other kind of exposure in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think so often my kids are young,
Speaker 1: but as they are coming up into social media and
Speaker 1: everything else where, you're creating your own TV channel for your.
Speaker 2: Life, like your little life. It's not being produced by anyone.
Speaker 1: And what you put out there is is vulnerable and
Speaker 1: exposed and someone could take advantage of it, and someone
Speaker 1: could use it for good, someone could use it for bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And in this case, obviously you're really you are You're
Speaker 1: really taking a huge leap and putting yourself out there.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked if you really I think that
Speaker 1: really believing that there is a prize at the end
Speaker 1: of it, that there's going to be something that you win,
Speaker 1: has got to be such a huge piece of it
Speaker 1: in earnest.
Speaker 4: Otherwise it's a huge motivator.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's probably some predictability that you could do
Speaker 1: with the couples that have not made it.
Speaker 5: Whether or not it's hard sometimes honestly, you watch those
Speaker 5: like you watch the episode where they reveal the people together,
Speaker 5: and it really it's you can tell already in that
Speaker 5: episode that it's not working out. Were there any nights
Speaker 5: that you went to bed and wondered if there would
Speaker 5: be no one really at the end of it.
Speaker 6: I had one night of angst like that, and it
Speaker 6: will was right before our final date, and I'd gone
Speaker 6: on a date with Guy and I had gone on
Speaker 6: one with Pascal. Pascal self eliminated that night, so he
Speaker 6: I want to go home? Yes, And I knew that
Speaker 6: that connection with Guy. I felt like my connection with
Speaker 6: him was so much better than or deeper than my
Speaker 6: connection with Guy. And I didn't know if he still
Speaker 6: felt the same way with.
Speaker 4: You, that he was going to self eliminate.
Speaker 6: Like I didn't know what his feelins were because didn't
Speaker 6: see him two weeks. I didn't see him since hometowns.
Speaker 1: Herd before that.
Speaker 8: But you just know that you just never know because
Speaker 8: it's two weeks and does a person get cold feet.
Speaker 8: You're in this bubble.
Speaker 5: Do you are you allowed to, especially on overnights, Are
Speaker 5: you allowed technically to tell the person that you've picked
Speaker 5: them if you know by that point, or are you
Speaker 5: advised by the producers to not say anything.
Speaker 6: They do not advise you not to say anything. Sweet
Speaker 6: you can tell. Yeah, I think you knew obviously. I
Speaker 6: didn't tell him I loved him though until we were
Speaker 6: on until we got engaged to.
Speaker 2: Because you were waiting that.
Speaker 5: Are you holding that moment for it then? And did
Speaker 5: you go into the to the season knowing that you
Speaker 5: would hold that I love you or just identically.
Speaker 6: But I did go into the season saying I'm not
Speaker 6: going to say I love you to more than one person.
Speaker 4: So that brings it all the way to the maturity.
Speaker 6: You had some things, and I've seen people do it
Speaker 6: and it never goes well. So I knew I felt
Speaker 6: it about him way before I ever said it. But
Speaker 6: I was like, I am not saying it because you were.
Speaker 5: Able to call people at home and be like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, you're not allowed to take your phone.
Speaker 4: They take all your stuff.
Speaker 2: Alone with your thoughts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so that's a big thing about it because
Speaker 6: you have no friends of your family, like the girlfriend
Speaker 6: that you would normally talk to a thousand times.
Speaker 4: Like he did this, Tell me, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't like his Why did you wear that shirt?
Speaker 4: Bottom of It was a hard watching the season back
Speaker 4: because you.
Speaker 2: Watch it, yes, about half of it, okay.
Speaker 4: Only half? Okay, Yeah, because you referenced and.
Speaker 8: The reason why we've been so busy.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was especially fear you're a little jealous when you
Speaker 5: see the connections that she has with people, because.
Speaker 4: Some people don't watch it back.
Speaker 8: I hear there's reasons they don't. But it was interesting because,
Speaker 8: like Jones said earlier that even though I was living it,
Speaker 8: I didn't see how the dates went, Like George is
Speaker 8: a good buddy of mine. Yeah, and he came back
Speaker 8: and he goes, I fell on the ice. And when
Speaker 8: I saw it on TV, I was like, that's a
Speaker 8: bad crash. And because Jonathan, you'd think he could ride
Speaker 8: a horse. Last time he was on a horse, he
Speaker 8: was six years old. It was a pulley and the
Speaker 8: guy goes, guy goes back, and he goes and I
Speaker 8: gotta do is cook? And he goes, I don't cook.
Speaker 6: So you picked these guys for days, and I kind
Speaker 6: of picked them based on Like, so Jonathan, he's from Iowa.
Speaker 6: I'm like, of course, ride a horse. Now you get
Speaker 6: there and I'm like, and I'm kind of afraid of horses.
Speaker 4: I don't really love them. And it's kind of a
Speaker 4: typical date. They do them.
Speaker 6: Every Bachelor season. You gotta do the horseback riding date.
Speaker 6: And I was like, really, we have to do it,
Speaker 6: and they're like, yeah, we always do it. So we're
Speaker 6: out there, We're on this mountain. There's rattlesnakes. They have
Speaker 6: a rattlesye handler like in the bushes and it's hot,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, okay, so we're gonnade horses, you know.
Speaker 4: And I was like, so I'm counting on you.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: He's like, I haven't ridden a horse since I was
Speaker 6: six years old.
Speaker 4: I was like, we we just go home now. This
Speaker 4: is a terrible date.
Speaker 6: And then and then the same thing with Jordan's you know,
Speaker 6: he's from Chicago. I'm like, of course he goes out
Speaker 6: of ice skating into the place. Then an ice skated
Speaker 6: since he was twelve.
Speaker 1: So you guys have been very busy since the finale,
Speaker 1: and now it's the holiday season. It sounds it seems
Speaker 1: like you're kind of going out and around everywhere. When
Speaker 1: will you all get to now live your life?
Speaker 4: I know, take a deep breath and live our lives.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it has.
Speaker 1: Been because you're in Maryland and you're in Kansas, you're
Speaker 1: talking about a place in New York.
Speaker 2: But when do you get to just what are you
Speaker 2: done with the.
Speaker 4: All the hype? Yea, yeah, all the press, all the.
Speaker 6: Soon actually, so I feel like we have probably the
Speaker 6: rest of the December, when we don't have any TV
Speaker 6: stuff we have to do, like I have some interviews
Speaker 6: in Maryland. He has some in Kansas, but not stuff together,
Speaker 6: and then I'm going to Kansas finally on the eighteenth
Speaker 6: of December, just like kind of spend some time with
Speaker 6: his family and friends, which I've met a lot of them.
Speaker 6: So we had a big party after the finale. The
Speaker 6: night of the finale, we had like a big kind
Speaker 6: of engagement party. There were like two Huner people there,
Speaker 6: whole a bunch of his friends flew in from Kansas,
Speaker 6: so I've met a lot of them, but I'm going
Speaker 6: to spend some time there.
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a little bit of downtime.
Speaker 6: Then he's coming to Maryland for Christmas, and then we're
Speaker 6: hopefully maybe found a place in New York. We're working
Speaker 6: on it today.
Speaker 1: With you both have jobs that you were able to
Speaker 1: put on hold while you did the show.
Speaker 6: Right, So yeah, he's he's on the phone all the
Speaker 6: time with his job now, but for the seven weeks
Speaker 6: he didn't do that much.
Speaker 4: He could have his shone every once.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I sure, And I've got a good staff,
Speaker 8: a couple of small businesses, so good people handling it
Speaker 8: amazing great.
Speaker 5: So was everyone geeking out from your work that you're
Speaker 5: on the show when you got picked?
Speaker 8: No, it's just there like.
Speaker 2: Of course he got picked.
Speaker 8: Of course it's interesting because when I came back and
Speaker 8: again I'll ramble when I came back there, like can.
Speaker 4: You go away?
Speaker 8: Yea?
Speaker 5: How do you guys feel about a Golden Bachelorette televised wedding.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, is saying now your face is
Speaker 1: saying maybe, yeah, I want to see it.
Speaker 5: But I understand like wanting to keep this now private.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have like the bote those thoughts.
Speaker 6: So you know, I thought I just wanted to be
Speaker 6: our family and friends and just be intimate and just us,
Speaker 6: you know, being a couple, only not a couple that
Speaker 6: everybody is watching.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just us.
Speaker 6: And then like the thought has gone through into my
Speaker 6: head now that I've seen people's reactions to the show
Speaker 6: and how and how much hope.
Speaker 4: It's given people, and I feel like leaving them.
Speaker 6: Like right at the curb, right when they get to
Speaker 6: see maybe what the real finale is, Like a wedding.
Speaker 4: Is not the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: That it would do you get paid if you do
Speaker 1: a wedding, Like is that like a performance situation or
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Just you don't know.
Speaker 6: Okay, I know Bachler's have been paid. I know Trista
Speaker 6: and Ryan were paid.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of years ago, the licensey rights
Speaker 2: to their wedding.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I don't know what they're paid for, but
Speaker 6: I know they got paid. You know what I don't
Speaker 6: know about if they still do that?
Speaker 1: No, because I love I'm you should ask her. I'm
Speaker 1: in the mode of like, I'm all for hope. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have deep, deep wells. I'm I hope to have
Speaker 1: an incredible practice of gratitude and hope and optimism. And
Speaker 1: I think that I do live that every day and
Speaker 1: I look at people and I'm like, oh, well, there's.
Speaker 2: An exchange of value.
Speaker 1: And so you guys are this is on some level,
Speaker 1: there's there's a job to it.
Speaker 2: And in a.
Speaker 1: Wedding like that, it's not it's not for you, it's
Speaker 1: not an intimate.
Speaker 4: Well I know.
Speaker 8: A little bit of its giving up the control. Yeah,
Speaker 8: because between the two of us we can throw one
Speaker 8: hell of a party.
Speaker 5: I don't think you owe anything else to anybody, no
Speaker 5: at all. I have to ask because this question came
Speaker 5: up a lot with the Call It crew because we
Speaker 5: put out questions about you guys, and they want to
Speaker 5: know if you guys have talked about a peanut, which
Speaker 5: is a conversation that every age talks about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we've talked finances and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of us are fun with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have you done like the normal things, because
Speaker 2: are like do you know, like it's funny like when
Speaker 2: you're when.
Speaker 1: You're dating and you're in the real world, you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, how like if someone likes to use their
Speaker 1: freaking flyer miles, or like they like it's over visa,
Speaker 1: or if they like what I.
Speaker 8: Want to know, do you know about which side of
Speaker 8: the bed?
Speaker 4: No? No, no?
Speaker 8: Oh, And I was a creep. I mean, the half
Speaker 8: the free world thought I was a creep for asking
Speaker 8: her that question. I tell her I'm trainable or I'm
Speaker 8: trained because the guy gets second choice on which side
Speaker 8: of the.
Speaker 5: Bed always the girl that closest to the bathroom.
Speaker 8: Of course, or when you have kids, closest to the.
Speaker 4: Door, two girls.
Speaker 5: If it's my husband likes to be closest to the
Speaker 5: door because of like he feels like if they're you know, alarm.
Speaker 8: With like you know, i'd like, Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 8: if I can't, I'll go back to that question. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I think it's different when you're mature. But mature because
Speaker 8: we both lived these lives and we've been through so
Speaker 8: much of that. We talked a little bit financial before
Speaker 8: before the end, so we knew where each other stood.
Speaker 8: But you know, as far as the cards and all
Speaker 8: that stuff, we just it's just so easy for us.
Speaker 8: When you're twenty to thirty years old, it's a whole
Speaker 8: different thing.
Speaker 5: It's so true, you guys, I have to say, I
Speaker 5: am I'm fully back in to the Bachelor Agination, Bachelor
Speaker 5: Nation I've always been part of Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 4: You know, I went to a require this isn't ex
Speaker 4: I think this isn't.
Speaker 2: Let's be fair, this is an exceptional no.
Speaker 4: But that's that was such a huge fan that I
Speaker 4: went in the audience and watched.
Speaker 5: I don't even remember what season was it was. It
Speaker 5: was freezing cold in that audience. By the way I.
Speaker 1: Saw you in the audience of Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: was twice so fun.
Speaker 4: She loves the stars. Go go be in the audience.
Speaker 5: But somebody fully back in because of you, guys. I
Speaker 5: feel like there's so much chemistry between you. There's so
Speaker 5: much When you guys walk like, I'm like, it feels
Speaker 5: like you've known each other for like ten years.
Speaker 4: It was crazy. We're so comfortable each other, it's insane.
Speaker 5: So this process works in age and I know.
Speaker 4: Here is done.
Speaker 5: We've done nothing, but I'm gonna work. I dropped the
Speaker 5: Mike walk out in Romances. Congratulations. You the crew are
Speaker 5: like so excited to have had a million questions.
Speaker 4: I wish we could get through.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we can't wait to see the wedding maybe
Speaker 5: or not maybe or whatever you.
Speaker 4: Want whatever something I know, if you want to invite.
Speaker 2: I'll bring my dress.
Speaker 4: For the invite.
Speaker 6: The study, didn't Juliane have to do a dance dancing
Speaker 6: with the stars contestants. That's the next thing I want
Speaker 6: to be congratulations.
Speaker 4: Well yes, you heard it here first ABC. We need
Speaker 4: her on.
Speaker 5: Please the congratulations, guys, congratulation.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, guys, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: So let's call that the end of the episode.