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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Lettington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello, hello, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 3: Call It What It Is a very special one because

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm okay, I'm fan, we would your.

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Speaker 4: Family woman, your fami lady, I'm fan coupling.

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Speaker 2: Yes, got a thank you.

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Speaker 4: I mean we're shipping, we'repp.

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Speaker 2: There's other voices in the room, Camilla, who are they?

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Speaker 5: Okay, we have what I hear I do, But we

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Speaker 5: have a we have a guy.

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Speaker 3: We have in our midst, the very first Golden Bachelorette

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Speaker 3: and her pick of the season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, don't talk. Don't ever say we didn't get

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Speaker 2: you any thing for the holidays.

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Speaker 5: I know because your romance for the holidays. You guys,

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Speaker 5: they do so much for being with us today. We're

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Speaker 5: geeking out. When I told people that you guys were

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Speaker 5: coming on, I got like a lot of questions, a

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Speaker 5: lot of text and a lot of questions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, they want to they really are they real?

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Speaker 6: People keep asking us that if you're really you guys

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Speaker 6: are really like if you were like, are really a

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Speaker 6: couple old?

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Speaker 7: Okay, so let's start there because I think it's a

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Speaker 7: good place to start. Sure, Okay, because I guess my

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Speaker 7: first question would be, did either of you take turns

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Speaker 7: answering watch reality television before going on to a reality

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Speaker 7: television show?

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Speaker 4: So you can answer that, because did you even watch

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Speaker 4: the Bachelorette or Bachelor ever?

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Speaker 8: No? And I told the producers beforehand, I said, I

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Speaker 8: haven't seen anything, and not any reality TV. Maybe Survivor

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Speaker 8: when it came out twenty five years It was a

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Speaker 8: good show years ago, so I have no idea. One

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Speaker 8: of the little jokes was there's a Golden Road was

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Speaker 8: in the Rose ceremony room? Yes, and it's in case.

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Speaker 8: I had no idea what it was, what it was for.

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Speaker 8: And Jones said at the end, just a couple of dies,

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Speaker 8: and she goes, that's what you get at the end.

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Speaker 4: That's why you're here, that's what you want.

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Speaker 5: Did you watch her okay, once you knew you were

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Speaker 5: coming on the show, did you watch her season?

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Speaker 8: No? I'm a reader and I don't even have cable TV,

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Speaker 8: and so I just read everything I could.

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Speaker 5: And okay, you read everything about her about her.

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Speaker 8: In about a little bit about the show and a

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Speaker 8: little bit about Gary, the other contestants, but it's just

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Speaker 8: going online. But then now we all know this, how

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Speaker 8: much of that's true?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of that I wanted to do it.

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Speaker 8: I could have gone on, you know, could have gone

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Speaker 8: and watched it, but I wanted it to just be fresh.

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Speaker 1: I was looking for something new, and you I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: from you not had watched reality television before and obviously

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Speaker 1: had been on another show. So I guess again going

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Speaker 1: back to like is it real when you were watching

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Speaker 1: as a as an audience member, were you believing what

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Speaker 1: you were seeing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 6: Really doubt it. I mean, so it was all younger

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Speaker 6: seasons at the time, and yes, certainly the beginning ones

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Speaker 6: seemed more authentic then as they went along, And like

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Speaker 6: everybody has this notion that now that it's been on

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Speaker 6: for a bunch of years, a lot of people are

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Speaker 6: on their show because they want to be famous, they

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Speaker 6: want to be Instagram, you know, they want to be influencers.

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Speaker 6: So like that's kind of a narrative that's going around.

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Speaker 4: But the like original kind of.

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Speaker 6: Bachelor, like Trista, like you know, in those earlier seasons

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Speaker 6: were really real, and so I believe still marry right, yeah, yeah, gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: There's two like teenage kids. They're so very like they

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Speaker 6: are like the iconic Bachelor couple. So I certainly believed it,

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Speaker 6: you know, going into it, that it could happen. And

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Speaker 6: I felt like our seasons, the Golden Bachelor and our season,

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Speaker 6: since they're so new, our way more kind of pure,

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Speaker 6: they haven't been like there hasn't been a different narrative yet.

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Speaker 6: People aren't there to become famous. We're a little older,

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Speaker 6: we're not trying to be influencers and what.

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Speaker 2: We're bagging into.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you believed that you could fall in love

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Speaker 1: on television as you went into this.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 6: I was I believe that it could happen. I wasn't

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Speaker 6: sure it could happen for me. So I went in

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Speaker 6: maybe a little skeptical, but hopeful because like I do,

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Speaker 6: believe in the process. So they do all this a

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Speaker 6: betting for you, and they kind of knew me. So

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Speaker 6: I was on Golden Bachelor first, So when I came

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Speaker 6: the process of casting the guys, they knew me.

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Speaker 4: So they kind of knew what I was.

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Speaker 6: Interested in, knew what I would like, and so they

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Speaker 6: kind of bet them for you. So that whole like

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Speaker 6: initial part of your dating where you're just getting to

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Speaker 6: know each other, that part is kind of done for you.

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Speaker 6: The timeline that looks really really short, well you've skipped

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Speaker 6: a good month or two that you.

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Speaker 4: Don't have to worry about.

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Speaker 6: It's already all those you know, danger red flag things

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Speaker 6: are kind of sports cars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: We will previously reference by dates and sports cars, sports

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Speaker 1: cars and not and we're.

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Speaker 4: Not into that.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like the show ever, because sometimes I

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Speaker 5: watch the show and I'm like, it's so obvious to

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Speaker 5: me that that's not going to be the right person.

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Speaker 5: Was there anyone in your group that you felt like

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Speaker 5: was a plant for drama?

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Speaker 4: Yes, for drama, though for drama a pod be talking

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Speaker 4: about because.

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Speaker 9: You're like, I just felt like a little too smooth,

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Speaker 9: I got a little too like maybe the shows you

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Speaker 9: want the show to be more about you, And I'm

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Speaker 9: I'm not sure that that's a controversial thing to say,

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Speaker 9: because people initially had Maybe you felt like he didn't

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Speaker 4: How you say it, like, yeah, so there's a lot

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Speaker 6: So I do agree with what you're saying now, but

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Speaker 3: Or was it editing, you can tell me like editing,

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Speaker 6: I feel like it was pretty accurate. They add for him,

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Speaker 6: not for everybody, but for him, I felt like.

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Speaker 6: I don't see anything that happens in the mansion. I

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Speaker 6: the kind of funny stuff that he did talking about

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Speaker 4: Probably would have been red flags for me. I didn't

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Speaker 6: So, like my interactions with him were like way different

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Speaker 6: than what you So the Pascal that I got to

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Speaker 6: getting to know. Like he was just one on one

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Speaker 6: talking about you know, kind of growing up in you know,

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Speaker 6: him just coming to maryor not speaking English. So like

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Speaker 6: a lot of the narrative I got from him was

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Speaker 6: very different because I didn't have all that other external

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Speaker 6: stuff about how he acted in the house and you

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Speaker 6: know all that stuff. I didn't know about it. So

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Speaker 6: when I then watched the season, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: But this happens on the show.

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Speaker 5: This is one of the things that is kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 5: Did you feel like you had a good instinct on

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Speaker 5: the guys in the house?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: How like du clock.

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Speaker 2: It the first night and the next morning you got

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at his eyes and I believe.

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Speaker 8: One of the things that came up. But again I

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Speaker 8: can ramble.

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Speaker 4: But dishwasher didn't work, okay.

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Speaker 8: And there's a reason it didn't work because it brings

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Speaker 8: you around the kitchen and it brings around the guy.

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Speaker 8: So some guys would cook, some guys would clean those

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Speaker 8: you know, do the dishes.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're saying on purpose?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And they go, well, that's not going to work,

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Speaker 8: And I go, I'll pay for a new one, yeah,

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Speaker 8: and they go no. But you know, I think it

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Speaker 8: was smart to do it because I did them.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: He was part of the community, the community, George, and

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Speaker 6: it's been broken forever.

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Speaker 4: It was broken in Gilden the batter season, and there's

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Speaker 5: So you felt like even just from a dynamic of

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Speaker 5: who was by launch.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's very true.

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Speaker 2: Did you know who your real competition was?

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Speaker 8: You know? It varied is the season went alone and

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Speaker 8: probably the most concerned about was Mark because he's such

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Speaker 8: a good man. Mark Anderson is just a solid guy.

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Speaker 8: He's in there doing dishes, he was cooking. He was

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Speaker 8: just a polite guy. And you sit there and you go,

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Speaker 8: you know, if it was my sister, you know, and

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Speaker 8: if he was my brother in law. I love the guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: a little soft spoken, but he's a he's a good man.

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Speaker 8: And there was other guys. But he had come back

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Speaker 8: from a date with Joan and they went on the

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Speaker 8: shot and we go bring back the fish because I

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Speaker 8: love to Yeah, that's kind of thing I want to

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Speaker 8: do is butcher fish and do all this. And he

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Speaker 8: came back and he was just glowing. He goes, I

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Speaker 8: was great. We played these games and I'm sitting there

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Speaker 8: going that that's that might be the guy. And then guys,

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Speaker 8: you know, I thought guy Guy's got a lot to

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Speaker 8: bring to the table. The guy Guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: You know, the whole time, he goes, Chuck, it's going

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Speaker 8: to be you and me the final two and uh,

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Speaker 8: you know that was his opinion, and I Joan had

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Speaker 8: kind of given me some hints.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting you were saying this right now because the

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Speaker 5: people that we've spoken to felt early that it was

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Speaker 5: you and that guy was not really.

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Speaker 2: In the in the running like it was.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was like very clear.

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Speaker 3: There was a spark that like was not there for

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Speaker 8: It was over. It was over at Disneyland. That's what

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Speaker 8: It was the most magical place in the world.

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Speaker 4: So that is true.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we had an immediate spark and immunia attraction,

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Speaker 6: film crew because since it was Disney and you know,

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Speaker 8: A lot of the guys, got five of them meeting

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Speaker 5: Stopping going to be there.

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Speaker 10: It's over this week, okay, the dates?

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Speaker 8: The producers and I don't know the exact term, they

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Speaker 5: With if you feel intimate. I mean, because we're we

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Speaker 8: Really even if it was close, It didn't bother me

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Speaker 8: There's a little bit of reality because guy was still

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Speaker 5: So you're like, I gotta I gotta win this, I

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Speaker 11: But then you.

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Speaker 4: Only in fantasy suite.

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Speaker 6: So that's the whole thing about fantasy suits that you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, let's talk about the fantasy. So I was

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Speaker 6: I do not do like public displaced affections. Just I

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Speaker 6: I'm just not like a touchy I'm not always touching

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Speaker 4: So there's all these like things that we have to like, I.

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Speaker 4: To be conscious of that.

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Speaker 2: Well you mean in the middle.

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Speaker 5: But let's talk about the kiss that you did straight

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Speaker 4: You went in for a smooth.

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Speaker 5: Can believe you did that on So let's talk about that,

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Speaker 8: holding Jones hand and I gave her a kiss in

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00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 8: front of everybody. And it was probably a little selfish,

448
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 8: but I wanted him to know that I cared about

449
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 8: this person being young, and I thought it was a

450
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 8: great introduction. You know, I don't know how you felt.

451
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 4: But how did you feel?

452
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: Be honest?

453
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 6: I well, so it was his hometown, so I feel

454
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 6: like he was in charge. So up until that point,

455
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 6: like I'm in charge of everything. So every day he

456
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 6: was about me and me figuring it out and me

457
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,479
Speaker 6: like telling it so like I loved it that he

458
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 6: was in control.

459
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 4: That was a little much for me. I never told

460
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 4: him that, but it did.

461
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 6: But I thought, Okay, this is this is how he

462
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 6: acts in front of his family friends, So I have

463
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 6: to accept that that's the way he is in front.

464
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 4: Of his guys.

465
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 8: It was just a little pack yeah.

466
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, We're not going for a full on

467
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 4: makeout slash.

468
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 5: Maybe I think it's I I find it very endearing

469
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 5: and I think that I don't know.

470
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: I mean, but are you a PDA person. We've never

471
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 4: talked about this. I love a little PDA. Yeah you are.

472
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 8: You're from Missouri. I say, it's a Midwestern thing. I've

473
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 8: got a guy that I worked at.

474
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 4: Don't tell me every day.

475
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 5: I'm not married to an Indiana boy. And so I

476
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: get the Midwest PDA, but.

477
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 4: That is where are you from. I'm from England. Actually

478
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 4: it doesn't I.

479
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: Lost she didn't lose it, she just doesn't use it.

480
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 8: If I'm not sure, how long have you been in the.

481
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,239
Speaker 5: States, I have been so I'm forty and I've been

482
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 5: in the States since i was twenty one so but

483
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 5: I lived in the States for two years also when

484
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 5: I was younger, so about half my life. But I

485
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 5: really my best husband and he's all we're both about

486
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 5: the PDA, which our kids are not a fan of

487
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 5: the Yeah, they're they're like gross, Okay, let's talk about

488
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 5: fantasy sweets.

489
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've been asked, really wants to know about this?

490
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 5: Well, here's why I'm gonna be. I've never had a

491
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 5: couple in front of me, and I'm a fan of

492
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: the show.

493
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 4: I do feel like sexual.

494
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 5: Chemistry is super important, right, and so I oftentimes whenever

495
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm watching any season, feel like that's the night that

496
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 5: they really know because they know waking up like if

497
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 5: it was there, if.

498
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't there, implied that sex has happened.

499
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 5: It's implied that sex has happened. But I'm saying, whatever

500
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 5: has happened you know, because they're more intimate than they

501
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 5: get to ever be.

502
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 4: You come out.

503
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: Chill.

504
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 4: No, you're not chilling, are you kidding? You're going for it.

505
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: So for me, I was a little different about that.

506
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 6: So I had a hard time picturing like having sex

507
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 6: with three different guys in one week.

508
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 8: Yes, sex with two guys and making love with another,

509
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 8: but the opportunities on the table because to do it.

510
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I decided, even like before I came on

511
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 6: the season, that like that just was not me.

512
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable with it.

513
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 6: And so I got about halfway through the season and

514
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 6: I was afraid to tell anybody that I didn't want

515
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 6: to do fantasy.

516
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: You didn't change your mind.

517
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: You were like, you know what, three sounds great together.

518
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: Try that's going to be so okay, Okay, so you're

519
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: not so like, I don't think that I want to

520
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: do three.

521
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 6: But I'm afraid to tell the producers this because I'm

522
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 6: afraid they're to be like, oh, that's not how this works.

523
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 6: We're not going to or even if they say, okay,

524
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 6: like you can do whatever you want, but we're gonna

525
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 6: like shoot it, like that's going to happen because this

526
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 6: show and I didn't want that either. I wanted I

527
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 6: kind of wanted to not necessarily make a statement, but

528
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 6: I wanted it to be shown that you don't have

529
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 6: to do fantasy suites, Like you can go into fantasy

530
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 6: suites and that can be a chance to you know,

531
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 6: have like emotional intimacy.

532
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: And he was a really no person.

533
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 6: Came important conversations that you you really need to have,

534
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 6: but it doesn't need to.

535
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 4: Have to have.

536
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 6: You don't have to have like the physical element of it,

537
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 6: so or at least not that much of a physical eliment.

538
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

539
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 6: So about halfway through the season, right before we were

540
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 6: going to hometowns, I said to my producer we were walking.

541
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 6: He was always trying to get his steps in every night,

542
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 6: and we get to be like eleven thirties, Like I

543
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 6: need two thousand more steps, and I'm so I would

544
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 6: go on a walk with him around like the hotel.

545
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 6: So we were walking one night and I was like, Bradford,

546
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you something. I said, I don't want

547
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 6: to do fantasy suites. I said, in fact, I'm not

548
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 6: going to. I said, I want to do fantasy suites,

549
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 6: but I don't want to have a bed in them.

550
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, all right, I want to swing.

551
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: I was yeah, just.

552
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so I I. So he's like, let me

553
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 6: talk to like everybody, and he came back like a

554
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 6: couple ofays later, he's like, yeah, they're good with it.

555
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 4: That's fine. So what they can't force that. But I

556
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: wanted it.

557
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 6: To be more than just not like me knowing I'm

558
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 6: not doing that and I tell them the guys, I

559
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 6: wanted to actually like be a statement, a statement a

560
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 6: little bit and not because I felt like I needed

561
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 6: to make a statement other than I did want. So

562
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 6: I felt the pressure and I'm old. I'm sixty one

563
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 6: years old, and I fought the pressure to do this,

564
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 6: And I think does everybody feel that pressure? Even the

565
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 6: young the younger people feeling that pressure that they need

566
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 6: to do this they are, Yeah, I kind of feel

567
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 6: like they are. And I was I kind of wanted

568
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 6: to just say you don't have to, like, you don't have.

569
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 4: To do that.

570
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: So I did you talk to the guys or did

571
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: you say to the guys like this is yeah the experience,

572
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: this is not going to be part.

573
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 6: Of this is not gonna be so every night like

574
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 6: for those three Fantasy Suite sorry, just have to.

575
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: Pass for a second.

576
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: Was that a disappointment or a relief or a like

577
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: because you're on because.

578
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 8: You were Yeah, actually we were at dinner and you've

579
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 8: got all these cameras on you, and she goes, I'm

580
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 8: doing something different, and I was like, I really appreciated

581
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 8: it because I didn't want to think of that, you know,

582
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 8: of her being in bed with other people, even if

583
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 8: they didn't make love.

584
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's intimate. Is it's very It's always very into

585
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: my onw the show.

586
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 6: And it's also been an issue with some couples that

587
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 6: come off the show that the and it's generally a

588
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 6: girl lead with the guy, you know, contestants, and they

589
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 6: have a problem. The guys have a problem that she

590
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 6: slept with other people. Yes, and that wasn't the reason

591
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 6: I didn't do it. I just and whatever anybody else does,

592
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 6: if they want to do that, that's not my decision.

593
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 4: That my personal decision. I didn't want to.

594
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 6: So normally, you know, you come to the evening part

595
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 6: of the Fantasy Suite Daid and they have the key

596
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 6: with the key and my note just said something different,

597
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 6: said like in you know, I'd like to spend time

598
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 6: with you in the fantasy suite. I want to have conversations,

599
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 6: but you know, there's not going to be a bad

600
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 6: and there's not going to be like a physical part

601
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 6: of this.

602
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: Yes, So was there not a physical part of it

603
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: until the engagement.

604
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 5: Is Did you feel like he was a gamble, like

605
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: you can get to like.

606
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 8: Throw it out that it wouldn't be sexually compatible.

607
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: Yes, because I think.

608
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 5: That that's It's not that it's not that someone's like

609
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: bad and bed or great and bet or it's just

610
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: a natural chemistry in the same way a natural kiss has.

611
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: Chemistry, which they have.

612
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: They just talked about it.

613
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 4: They have that.

614
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 5: But I'm saying that you're getting engaged, You're you're committing

615
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 5: to being together without having done that intimate act. Was

616
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 5: there any part of you, either of you, that were

617
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: worried that, like when it came down to it, that

618
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: would be a bust.

619
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 8: We had a and I won't go into details, but

620
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 8: please we had a conversation on at my hometown's on

621
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 8: a bus and there weren't any cameras around.

622
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: Apparently there's never a second. I know, it's like we're

623
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: really hot.

624
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 6: And they had like one of those printer buses waiting

625
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 6: with some crew in it, and they're like just getting

626
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 6: the ban and like, you know, sit there to cool

627
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: off for a minute.

628
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: And we didn't have any cameras on this.

629
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 5: You're like, okay, I got exclusive exclusive what happened?

630
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened.

631
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 6: So we had we had little, like just normal conversation.

632
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: Then he goes, so I just have to how do

633
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: you feel about sex? I love that conversation.

634
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 12: He's like okay, good, yeah, yeah, And then I'll go

635
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 12: ahead and miss is if I get the look, tell

636
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 12: me that we're at that stage.

637
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 8: We've been married for like five years. So we do

638
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 8: the engagement. We come back and they do a big

639
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 8: party for the crew and we kind of busted in

640
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 8: you're not supposed to go, and.

641
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: We well, we didn't have the key to your room.

642
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: We had to go get it from your producer.

643
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 8: And it was fun. They were all in there having fun.

644
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 8: And the boat. They were taking the boat from Bora

645
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 8: Bora back to Tahiti. Because we were flying out in

646
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 8: a day or two, we stayed an extra day and

647
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 8: the boat was rocky, just like this, and I get

648
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 8: seasick and they've got a doctor with you. Twenty four

649
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 8: to seven, and he gave me like four doses of Gramma.

650
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 8: We got back to the room. I was out, so

651
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 8: it did not have I mean it was it was industrial.

652
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I go back to my own room.

653
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

654
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 8: You so we don't just don't let everybody know we

655
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 8: don't have a problem.

656
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Okay, they wouldn't let everyone know, but there's not a problem.

657
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: It isn't It is an important part of relations, and.

658
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 6: I think that's also important to talk about that on

659
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 6: this particular show, just because you know, people look at

660
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 6: older people and you know, go, oh, you know they're

661
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 6: over that.

662
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: It's not true.

663
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: To stop you.

664
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: You keep saying old, but really, do you really do

665
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: you see yourself as old?

666
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: I don't really, but it is called the Golden Bachelor,

667
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 6: and you know there are I'm looking.

668
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: At you both in person.

669
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I know, get to be a person A lot of

670
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: times you do this on I know, I like this

671
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: so much, so much better. But I mean, I'm looking

672
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: at people who are super vibrant and engaged and nothing

673
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: about see together. I'm only saying I'm only going back

674
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: to it because you've said it twice. I'm just gonna

675
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: say that in my particular in my opinion, but I.

676
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: Understand what you're saying. I mean is you're more ma sure,

677
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: like you actually.

678
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Are coming into relationships with some experience, whereas I think,

679
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not people are trying to become

680
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: influencers off the show, I don't know.

681
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: I can't speak to that, but I think that no.

682
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: Matter what you're unless you're a really old soul, if

683
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: you come at twenty two years of age, you probably

684
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: haven't had a whole lot of experience.

685
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: Well, it was people in general.

686
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 5: What's interesting is I had not I had stopped watching

687
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: the show for a few seasons because I was like,

688
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: you know what, they always break up and people are

689
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: coming on for the wrong reasons. And I got back

690
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 5: into it because of the Golden Bachelor, even though they're

691
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: not together anymore, because I felt like all the contestants

692
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: I could tell were.

693
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: Really in it. I know, in it for the right reasons.

694
00:30:48,840 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: I know it's like the same, but it felt really true.

695
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: I have a question about kids, because you had gone

696
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 5: through the first season and then you came back.

697
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: Were they at all.

698
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 5: Afraid that you are going to get your heart broken again?

699
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, it's funny that your kids. So you

700
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 6: take care of your kids, you're their caregiver for so

701
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 6: many years. Yeah, and then it evolves in a really

702
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: weird way and it happens like before you know it,

703
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 6: and they start worrying about you, which has never happened before.

704
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: And this was the first indication that my kids started

705
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: worrying about me. And maybe a little bit after my

706
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 6: husband passed away, like they kind of came a little

707
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: bit more of the caregiver than the takers. They became

708
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: the givers, not the takers a little more. Yeah, And

709
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: when I went on this show, they were worried about it.

710
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 6: They know that I'm a really strong person, but they

711
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 6: you know, there is an element that they I finally

712
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 6: got to a place after John passed away of being comfortable,

713
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 6: like not having anks, not crying, not you know, you retreating.

714
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 6: I kind of got comfortable in my own skin and

715
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 6: in my life, and they didn't want me to go backwards.

716
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 6: So this like shaking up your life, like this is

717
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 6: a leap of faith because you could go from having

718
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 6: a really nice, comfortable life that you really need to

719
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 6: shake up, but is it the best life that you

720
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: could lead? And so by taking the sleep of faith

721
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: and saying I'm willing to risk it for the reward,

722
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 6: risk my comfort, my happiness and being in a good

723
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 6: place in life, for a better life, and it could happen.

724
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: But that's scary for my kids. It was scary for me,

725
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: but it was scary for my kids too.

726
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

727
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Well, my guess is for your kids, there's a level

728
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: of exposure.

729
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 6: Yep.

730
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: That is just true, unlike any other kind of exposure in.

731
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think so often my kids are young,

732
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: but as they are coming up into social media and

733
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: everything else where, you're creating your own TV channel for your.

734
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: Life, like your little life. It's not being produced by anyone.

735
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: And what you put out there is is vulnerable and

736
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: exposed and someone could take advantage of it, and someone

737
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: could use it for good, someone could use it for bad. Yeah,

738
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: And in this case, obviously you're really you are You're

739
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: really taking a huge leap and putting yourself out there.

740
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: That's why I asked if you really I think that

741
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: really believing that there is a prize at the end

742
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: of it, that there's going to be something that you win,

743
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: has got to be such a huge piece of it

744
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: in earnest.

745
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: Otherwise it's a huge motivator.

746
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's probably some predictability that you could do

747
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: with the couples that have not made it.

748
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: Whether or not it's hard sometimes honestly, you watch those

749
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 5: like you watch the episode where they reveal the people together,

750
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: and it really it's you can tell already in that

751
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: episode that it's not working out. Were there any nights

752
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: that you went to bed and wondered if there would

753
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 5: be no one really at the end of it.

754
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 6: I had one night of angst like that, and it

755
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 6: will was right before our final date, and I'd gone

756
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 6: on a date with Guy and I had gone on

757
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 6: one with Pascal. Pascal self eliminated that night, so he

758
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 6: I want to go home? Yes, And I knew that

759
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 6: that connection with Guy. I felt like my connection with

760
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 6: him was so much better than or deeper than my

761
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 6: connection with Guy. And I didn't know if he still

762
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: felt the same way with.

763
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 4: You, that he was going to self eliminate.

764
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 6: Like I didn't know what his feelins were because didn't

765
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 6: see him two weeks. I didn't see him since hometowns.

766
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Herd before that.

767
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 8: But you just know that you just never know because

768
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 8: it's two weeks and does a person get cold feet.

769
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 8: You're in this bubble.

770
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 5: Do you are you allowed to, especially on overnights, Are

771
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: you allowed technically to tell the person that you've picked

772
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 5: them if you know by that point, or are you

773
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: advised by the producers to not say anything.

774
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 6: They do not advise you not to say anything. Sweet

775
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 6: you can tell. Yeah, I think you knew obviously. I

776
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 6: didn't tell him I loved him though until we were

777
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 6: on until we got engaged to.

778
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: Because you were waiting that.

779
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: Are you holding that moment for it then? And did

780
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 5: you go into the to the season knowing that you

781
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: would hold that I love you or just identically.

782
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 6: But I did go into the season saying I'm not

783
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: going to say I love you to more than one person.

784
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 4: So that brings it all the way to the maturity.

785
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 6: You had some things, and I've seen people do it

786
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: and it never goes well. So I knew I felt

787
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: it about him way before I ever said it. But

788
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 6: I was like, I am not saying it because you were.

789
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: Able to call people at home and be like, oh

790
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: my god, you're not allowed to take your phone.

791
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: They take all your stuff.

792
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: Alone with your thoughts.

793
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so that's a big thing about it because

794
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 6: you have no friends of your family, like the girlfriend

795
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 6: that you would normally talk to a thousand times.

796
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: Like he did this, Tell me, what do you think?

797
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't like his Why did you wear that shirt?

798
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 4: Bottom of It was a hard watching the season back

799
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 4: because you.

800
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: Watch it, yes, about half of it, okay.

801
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: Only half? Okay, Yeah, because you referenced and.

802
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 8: The reason why we've been so busy.

803
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 11: Yeah.

804
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 5: I was especially fear you're a little jealous when you

805
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 5: see the connections that she has with people, because.

806
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: Some people don't watch it back.

807
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 8: I hear there's reasons they don't. But it was interesting because,

808
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 8: like Jones said earlier that even though I was living it,

809
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 8: I didn't see how the dates went, Like George is

810
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 8: a good buddy of mine. Yeah, and he came back

811
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 8: and he goes, I fell on the ice. And when

812
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 8: I saw it on TV, I was like, that's a

813
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 8: bad crash. And because Jonathan, you'd think he could ride

814
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 8: a horse. Last time he was on a horse, he

815
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 8: was six years old. It was a pulley and the

816
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 8: guy goes, guy goes back, and he goes and I

817
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 8: gotta do is cook? And he goes, I don't cook.

818
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 6: So you picked these guys for days, and I kind

819
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 6: of picked them based on Like, so Jonathan, he's from Iowa.

820
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 6: I'm like, of course, ride a horse. Now you get

821
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 6: there and I'm like, and I'm kind of afraid of horses.

822
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: I don't really love them. And it's kind of a

823
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: typical date. They do them.

824
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 6: Every Bachelor season. You gotta do the horseback riding date.

825
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 6: And I was like, really, we have to do it,

826
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 6: and they're like, yeah, we always do it. So we're

827
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 6: out there, We're on this mountain. There's rattlesnakes. They have

828
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: a rattlesye handler like in the bushes and it's hot,

829
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 6: and I'm like, okay, so we're gonnade horses, you know.

830
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, so I'm counting on you.

831
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 8: You know.

832
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 6: He's like, I haven't ridden a horse since I was

833
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 6: six years old.

834
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: I was like, we we just go home now. This

835
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: is a terrible date.

836
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: And then and then the same thing with Jordan's you know,

837
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 6: he's from Chicago. I'm like, of course he goes out

838
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 6: of ice skating into the place. Then an ice skated

839
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 6: since he was twelve.

840
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: So you guys have been very busy since the finale,

841
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: and now it's the holiday season. It sounds it seems

842
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: like you're kind of going out and around everywhere. When

843
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: will you all get to now live your life?

844
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: I know, take a deep breath and live our lives.

845
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, it has.

846
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Been because you're in Maryland and you're in Kansas, you're

847
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: talking about a place in New York.

848
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: But when do you get to just what are you

849
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: done with the.

850
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: All the hype? Yea, yeah, all the press, all the.

851
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: Soon actually, so I feel like we have probably the

852
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 6: rest of the December, when we don't have any TV

853
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 6: stuff we have to do, like I have some interviews

854
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 6: in Maryland. He has some in Kansas, but not stuff together,

855
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 6: and then I'm going to Kansas finally on the eighteenth

856
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 6: of December, just like kind of spend some time with

857
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 6: his family and friends, which I've met a lot of them.

858
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 6: So we had a big party after the finale. The

859
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: night of the finale, we had like a big kind

860
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 6: of engagement party. There were like two Huner people there,

861
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 6: whole a bunch of his friends flew in from Kansas,

862
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: so I've met a lot of them, but I'm going

863
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 6: to spend some time there.

864
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a little bit of downtime.

865
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: Then he's coming to Maryland for Christmas, and then we're

866
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 6: hopefully maybe found a place in New York. We're working

867
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 6: on it today.

868
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: With you both have jobs that you were able to

869
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: put on hold while you did the show.

870
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 6: Right, So yeah, he's he's on the phone all the

871
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 6: time with his job now, but for the seven weeks

872
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 6: he didn't do that much.

873
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: He could have his shone every once.

874
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I sure, And I've got a good staff,

875
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 8: a couple of small businesses, so good people handling it

876
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 8: amazing great.

877
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 5: So was everyone geeking out from your work that you're

878
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 5: on the show when you got picked?

879
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 8: No, it's just there like.

880
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: Of course he got picked.

881
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 8: Of course it's interesting because when I came back and

882
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 8: again I'll ramble when I came back there, like can.

883
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: You go away?

884
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 8: Yea?

885
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: How do you guys feel about a Golden Bachelorette televised wedding.

886
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: That's a good question, is saying now your face is

887
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: saying maybe, yeah, I want to see it.

888
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: But I understand like wanting to keep this now private.

889
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have like the bote those thoughts.

890
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 6: So you know, I thought I just wanted to be

891
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 6: our family and friends and just be intimate and just us,

892
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 6: you know, being a couple, only not a couple that

893
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 6: everybody is watching.

894
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, just us.

895
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 6: And then like the thought has gone through into my

896
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 6: head now that I've seen people's reactions to the show

897
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 6: and how and how much hope.

898
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: It's given people, and I feel like leaving them.

899
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 6: Like right at the curb, right when they get to

900
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: see maybe what the real finale is, Like a wedding.

901
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 4: Is not the right thing to do.

902
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: That it would do you get paid if you do

903
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: a wedding, Like is that like a performance situation or

904
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: is it?

905
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, Just you don't know.

906
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 6: Okay, I know Bachler's have been paid. I know Trista

907
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 6: and Ryan were paid.

908
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: That was a lot of years ago, the licensey rights

909
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: to their wedding.

910
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I don't know what they're paid for, but

911
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 6: I know they got paid. You know what I don't

912
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 6: know about if they still do that?

913
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: No, because I love I'm you should ask her. I'm

914
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: in the mode of like, I'm all for hope. I mean,

915
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I have deep, deep wells. I'm I hope to have

916
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: an incredible practice of gratitude and hope and optimism. And

917
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: I think that I do live that every day and

918
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: I look at people and I'm like, oh, well, there's.

919
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: An exchange of value.

920
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: And so you guys are this is on some level,

921
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: there's there's a job to it.

922
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: And in a.

923
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: Wedding like that, it's not it's not for you, it's

924
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: not an intimate.

925
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: Well I know.

926
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 8: A little bit of its giving up the control. Yeah,

927
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 8: because between the two of us we can throw one

928
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 8: hell of a party.

929
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 5: I don't think you owe anything else to anybody, no

930
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 5: at all. I have to ask because this question came

931
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: up a lot with the Call It crew because we

932
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: put out questions about you guys, and they want to

933
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 5: know if you guys have talked about a peanut, which

934
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: is a conversation that every age talks about.

935
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we've talked finances and stuff like that.

936
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of us are fun with it.

937
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have you done like the normal things, because

938
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: are like do you know, like it's funny like when

939
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: you're when.

940
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: You're dating and you're in the real world, you're like,

941
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, how like if someone likes to use their

942
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: freaking flyer miles, or like they like it's over visa,

943
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: or if they like what I.

944
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 8: Want to know, do you know about which side of

945
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 8: the bed?

946
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: No? No, no?

947
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 8: Oh, And I was a creep. I mean, the half

948
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 8: the free world thought I was a creep for asking

949
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 8: her that question. I tell her I'm trainable or I'm

950
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 8: trained because the guy gets second choice on which side

951
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 8: of the.

952
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: Bed always the girl that closest to the bathroom.

953
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 8: Of course, or when you have kids, closest to the.

954
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: Door, two girls.

955
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: If it's my husband likes to be closest to the

956
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 5: door because of like he feels like if they're you know, alarm.

957
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 8: With like you know, i'd like, Yeah, I think it's

958
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 8: if I can't, I'll go back to that question. Yeah,

959
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 8: I think it's different when you're mature. But mature because

960
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 8: we both lived these lives and we've been through so

961
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 8: much of that. We talked a little bit financial before

962
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 8: before the end, so we knew where each other stood.

963
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 8: But you know, as far as the cards and all

964
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 8: that stuff, we just it's just so easy for us.

965
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 8: When you're twenty to thirty years old, it's a whole

966
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 8: different thing.

967
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 5: It's so true, you guys, I have to say, I

968
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 5: am I'm fully back in to the Bachelor Agination, Bachelor

969
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: Nation I've always been part of Bachelor Nation.

970
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: You know, I went to a require this isn't ex

971
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 4: I think this isn't.

972
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: Let's be fair, this is an exceptional no.

973
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: But that's that was such a huge fan that I

974
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: went in the audience and watched.

975
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 5: I don't even remember what season was it was. It

976
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: was freezing cold in that audience. By the way I.

977
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Saw you in the audience of Dancing with the Stars

978
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: was twice so fun.

979
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: She loves the stars. Go go be in the audience.

980
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: But somebody fully back in because of you, guys. I

981
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: feel like there's so much chemistry between you. There's so

982
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 5: much When you guys walk like, I'm like, it feels

983
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 5: like you've known each other for like ten years.

984
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: It was crazy. We're so comfortable each other, it's insane.

985
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: So this process works in age and I know.

986
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: Here is done.

987
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: We've done nothing, but I'm gonna work. I dropped the

988
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: Mike walk out in Romances. Congratulations. You the crew are

989
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 5: like so excited to have had a million questions.

990
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: I wish we could get through.

991
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we can't wait to see the wedding maybe

992
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: or not maybe or whatever you.

993
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: Want whatever something I know, if you want to invite.

994
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 2: I'll bring my dress.

995
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 4: For the invite.

996
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 6: The study, didn't Juliane have to do a dance dancing

997
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: with the stars contestants. That's the next thing I want

998
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 6: to be congratulations.

999
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: Well yes, you heard it here first ABC. We need

1000
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: her on.

1001
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 5: Please the congratulations, guys, congratulation.

1002
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, guys, thank you, thank you.

1003
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: So let's call that the end of the episode.