1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: online at advocatesla dot com. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Lucy is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Josh. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: get her a second date. But first, Lucy, how long 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from Josh? 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, it's been about two weeks, A. 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 4: Good amount of time. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we had such a 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: good vibe and connection. I can't let this go. Yeah. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 4: Did you try to get a hold of him in 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: that time? Oh? 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 3: I definitely have. Yeah. 16 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 4: Okay, when was the last time you reached out? 17 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: I actually reached out yesterday. Then I'm a text but yeah, 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything from them. 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll tell us about the date. 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: Well, okay, I know it sounds really wild, but it 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: honestly felt like it might be something from out of 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: a movie. That's how like magical it felt. We met 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: in Vegas, and I don't know, we just had a 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: really great time. It felt like otherworldly. It was I 25 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: don't know, I just felt like the universe kind of 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: put us together, and he made me laugh. Like immediately 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: I felt like disconnected to him, and we just like 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: we saw each other at the flat machine and just 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: had a great conversation. And then he got my number 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: and we text NonStop, and when I got back home, 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: he actually asked me out on a real date. And 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: I didn't even let him finish the sentence, like I 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: was like, yes. 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 4: Yes, so you guys live in the same city. How amazing. 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: I know, it really felt like it was meant to be. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool. 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. So so we ended up going to this really 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: like vibe wine bar with fairy lights and and we 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: shared like a sarcuterie board and like held hands the 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: whole time, and I don't know, like it really just 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: felt like we were falling in love. I know that 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: sounds crazy, but it was just it was. 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: Amazing, okay, and he was feeling the same way you think. 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yeah, like I felt like we were 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: so connected. We were like I don't know, it was 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: just it was it was awesome. He definitely was into me. 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then what happened, Like, was there anything off 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the day or even during the date, 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: I guess. 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I thought everything was going well and I 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: felt really like I wanted to be open and honest 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: with him, and so towards the end of the date, 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: I told him that I'm technically married. Oh yeah, but 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: like I'm I'm really working on opening things up with 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: my husband. 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: And did you say opening things up with your husband? Yeah, 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: so like an open relationship type thing. 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like he already knows like I'm a free 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: spirit and he knows like I'm very open minded. I mean, 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: he loves who I am, and so I I you know, 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: I talked to him about it, and I don't know, 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: instead of listening and having a conversation, he just like 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: felt very frantic and just laught and yeah, so like 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: he grabbed his jacket. He didn't even finish his drink. 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: And I haven't heard from intense, So. 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: So we know why you're getting ghosted. 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean yes, but I don't know. I 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: just I felt like I was being really transparent and 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: I believe in honesty and obviously love and multiple kinds 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: of love. And he said he really liked emotionally intelligent women, 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: and I don't know, I thought that he would be 72 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: at least willing to have a conversation about it. 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: So, okay, that's what you want, I have a conversation 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: about it. 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Lucy is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: a guy named Josh. We think we might know why, 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: but we're not sure. So we're about to call him 78 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: and see if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger and 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: get her a second date. But first, Lucy, why don't 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: you break down your situation. 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: Again real quick? 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I had a really great connection with Josh. 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: We went on a date and I was honest with 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: him and told him that I'm married, but i'd like to, 85 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: you know, have an open relationship. And I don't not 86 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: see this left, so I haven't heard from him since. 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: All right, well, are you ready to call him? 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: Hi, man, I speak to Josh. Please, Hey, Josh, how 90 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: are you? This is a radio show. It's called The 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: Jewel Show. 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: Hi Josh. 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: I'm Nina, Hi Victoria, and my name is Jewbel. What's up? 94 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: Uh? 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 5: What's up? Guys? 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: Look? 97 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: Have you ever listened to the show? 98 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 5: For I have, but just been a minute, and I 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 5: don't know what I'm doing it. 100 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment called the First day follow up. 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: That's where if you go on a date with somebody 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: and then you ghost them, that person can email us 103 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: to get you on the phone and ask why you're 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: ghosting them. So we got an email about you, Josh, Okay, 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: any idea who would email us? 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 5: This is Vanessa? 107 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 4: Is it Vanessava? 108 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: It's not Vanessa, it's Lucy. And that's Lucy. She's actually 109 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: on the phone and wanted to talk to you. 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: So Lucy, all right? So is Vanessa? I know I 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: freak her up by telling you I'm married, But are 112 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: you going out with somebody else? We really had a connection? 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: Uh uh Okay, hold on, I'm still trying to process. 114 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 5: So all this work? So you thought I ghosted you? 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: So you called a radio station to call me on 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: the on the air. 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: Is that? 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: What's that? What is happening here right now? 119 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: Yes? I I didn't know what else to do, so 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: I called the radio station, like you've been ghosting me? 121 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: So what I don't know what to do? 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to break this down in a way 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: that I hopefully you can understand. Lucy, you casually dropped 124 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: that you're married and you're planning to ask him for 125 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: permission to date me. So you're asking your husband, how 126 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: do you think this was gonna go? Like I I, yeah, 127 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 5: I do like you, but this is so messy. This 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: is not how I operate, I know. 129 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: But I mean I was being really vulnerable with you, 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: like I felt like, I don't know, I felt like 131 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: we reached this place and like I was able to 132 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: open up to you in that way and and that 133 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: I want you to be in my life. I feel 134 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: like something's really here between us, and I felt like 135 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: I could tell you the truth and we could like 136 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: kind of work through this. 137 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, I didn't sign up for a throuble 138 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 5: want that. I don't want that. I don't want that. 139 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't not a thrupple just me Like, I'm okay. 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: I would still be married, but I would be monogamous 141 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: with you, So. 142 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: You wouldn't be with your husband anymore. Is that what 143 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 5: you're saying to me? 144 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: Okay? I well, I would be with him, but but 145 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: it would just be him and then you and nobody else. 146 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 5: That's not monogamous with me? Do you understand what. 147 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: I know? 148 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: But like, what if I just I feel like, okay, 149 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: what if I let you date whoever? You want, but 150 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: then you're still my boyfriend. 151 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to refer back to the monogamous. Do 152 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: you even know what that word means? This is bothering me. 153 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 5: Can you tell me what it means? If you know? 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: I mean, what does it mean? No? 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: No, no, no, tell me like, I don't know what 156 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: I mean. I don't know what it means. So can 157 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: you expect it to me? Just tell me what it is? 158 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: What does that mean word means? 159 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I think it's going to take more 160 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: than like a conversation on the radio to talk about that. 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I'm just telling you to tell 162 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: me one thing. You dragged me on the radio. I 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 5: just want you to define one word. What's monogamous means? 164 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: What does it mean? You got your phone to google it? 165 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: You don't know? 166 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just feel like it's to me, 167 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: it's it's being with my husband and then and then 168 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: you know, with my boyfriend and then nobody else. 169 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 5: That's great, Okay, thank you, that's that's amazing cool. So 170 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: chairs are bed too in my world? Like, I don't 171 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: you know you can't just change the definition of a 172 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,239 Speaker 5: word to suit your application. 173 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: Do you understand that you at least you willing to 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: maybe like talk to me more about this. 175 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 5: Like absolutely at this point, I'm like fascinated with what's 176 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 5: going on in your mind. I'll never talk to you 177 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 5: from a romantic angle ever again, or that that's that's 178 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: not happening, that's that's but I want to know. I 179 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 5: want to know how crazy you are. I'm being honest. 180 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: I want to figure out what's going on in your head. 181 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 4: No, I don't know that that's you, Josh. Would you 182 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: like another day with Lucy? Will pay for it? 183 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: Oh? No? Like, Okay, I get that you think I'm crazy. 184 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: It's a little unconventional, but I just felt like you 185 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: would maybe want to see like where our connection could go, 186 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: Like it might be worth you know, exploring. 187 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: A little bit more. 188 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: Well, you know, sometimes we think wrong. 189 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay you did say we so. 190 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: That Yeah okay, yeah that's a hard No. There will 191 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 5: never be at you and me we as long as 192 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: you have a husband. 193 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Well I feel like it's really unfair that 194 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: you think I should leave my host up for you. 195 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: Escalated. 196 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't think you're getting another date Lucy, 197 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: but at least you got to talk to Josh. 198 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks guys, I don't I don't know what 199 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: to say. 200 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: You'll figure it out, I'm sure. And Josh, thank you 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: for your time. 202 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I still don't know what happened all this time.