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Speaker 3: Ah, here we go.

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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday. I'm still floating feet barely touching

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Speaker 1: the ground. Look at Sam Darnold, Kenneth Walker, and Disneyland,

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Speaker 1: the happiest place on Earth, the happiest people on Earth.

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Speaker 1: It is great to have you in. You know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people think, oh, there's football season in America

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Speaker 1: and then waiting for football season. I don't buy it. Fascinating

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Speaker 1: story happen in the NBA and college basketball. But I

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Speaker 1: want to start about something because yesterday I'm kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, perusing the internet all day. I took a

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Speaker 1: chill day. It's a big weekend and I'm seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of this. Sam Donald didn't do anything in that

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and you are right, he did not throw

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Speaker 1: a pick. He did not look nervous, He did not

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Speaker 1: get rattled, he did not have a fumble, and he

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Speaker 1: did not take multiple sacks. You're right, I'm wrong. He

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything. For the record, the last eight Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl winning quarterbacks only one through for over three hundred yards. Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I thought Kyle Shanahan nailed it on the pregame show.

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Speaker 1: When you're as good as Seattle is, you play by

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Speaker 1: different rules.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam's a stud, and you know, us having him

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Speaker 4: for a year, I think we get a little too

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Speaker 4: much credit for what we did.

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Speaker 1: We didn't do anything for him.

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Speaker 4: We just gave him a platform to where we could

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Speaker 4: take the pressure off him for a year. And I

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Speaker 4: think him watching that, Sam's always let it rips. But

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Speaker 4: when you let it rip all the time and you're

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Speaker 4: always trying to win the game, a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Times, you keep both teams in the game. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's really what's changed with him. He picks and

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Speaker 1: chooses better.

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Speaker 4: He's got a really good team, and when you have

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Speaker 4: a really good team, you don't always have to try

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Speaker 4: to win it.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Sam Darnold in the playoffs did not have

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Speaker 1: a turnover for a month. Seven hundred yards, five tds,

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Speaker 1: no picks and scrambled. That is exceptional quarterback play. Do

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Speaker 1: you know the two Super Bowls were Brady threw for

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Speaker 1: the most yards. He lost one and fell behind twenty

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Speaker 1: eight to three in the other and needed the greatest,

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Speaker 1: most miraculous catch of his career Julian Edelman in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: to win that one. Oh, let me remind you that

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Speaker 1: Drake may set an NFL Super Bowl quarterback record this

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Speaker 1: past Sunday. Drake may threw for more yards than any

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Speaker 1: quarterback in a single quarter in NFL history. Did you

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Speaker 1: know that? Two hundred and thirty five in the fourth?

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Speaker 1: Just think he played well. Sam Donald didn't get in

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Speaker 1: the way. And let's be totally honest. Why you have

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Speaker 1: this opinion? Men are very proud animals. We are very proud.

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Speaker 1: You thought Sam Donald was a bust. You were proved wrong,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to admit it publicly. That's why

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Speaker 1: everybody always talks about you. Ever go into the internet. Rigged? Rigged?

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Speaker 1: Now you lost a bet, your team lost. If the

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Speaker 1: NFL is rigged, they're doing a terrible job. Mahomes, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Matt Stafford, we're not in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Sam Donald and Drake maywhere the NFL is

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Speaker 1: doing a horrible job of rigging it. So football is

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Speaker 1: the ultimate complimentary sport, and when you have a stacked roster,

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Speaker 1: not having a turnover for a month is exceptional. Quarterback

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Speaker 1: play audibling into stuff that works and out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: So you can tell me Donald didn't do anything, and

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Speaker 1: I will push back by your right. No fumbles, not

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Speaker 1: multiple sacks, never rattled, no interceptions, didn't do any of

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Speaker 1: those things. Drake made it all of them. So you

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Speaker 1: know I like Donald, and you also know I like analytics.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is something that I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: people realize this. For years on this show, I've talked

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Speaker 1: about analytics not analytics. Football is much closer to UFC

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Speaker 1: level of violence and sometimes tough wins, tougher wins, intimidation wins.

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Speaker 1: Analytics don't prove any of it. So Seattle does not

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Speaker 1: go for it on fourth downs. In fact, the three

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Speaker 1: on fourth down, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. If

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Speaker 1: and the Texans. And there was a moment in this game,

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Speaker 1: late second quarter, fourth and five for Seattle and they

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Speaker 1: chose to punt, and analytics said it's a go either

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Speaker 1: way decision. Seahawks led six to nothing. They brought on

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Speaker 1: the league's most highly paid punter, any pinned New England

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Speaker 1: deep analytics said it's a go either way, And as

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Speaker 1: I watched it, my takeaways, No, it's not. It's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent punt because New England couldn't move the ball.

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Speaker 1: Why would you give them a field position break. Their

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Speaker 1: longest drive was twenty eight yards. You don't give struggling

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent punt. Secondly, it's not like the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: were dominating on big offensive downs. The Patriots defense got tired,

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Speaker 1: but for the first quarter and a half they were excellent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, JSN was invisible. Nobody could stop him all year.

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Speaker 1: Patriots did. And the third thing, Seattle went a month

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Speaker 1: with no turnovers and a defense creating points. You punt

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Speaker 1: the ball, winning the game, not winning arguments on the

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Speaker 1: internet is the key to football. Too many people want

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Speaker 1: to go on the internet and sound smart. Do you

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Speaker 1: realize the last three Super Bowl champions each kicked four

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Speaker 1: field goals in their respective Super Bowls? Take the points

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Speaker 1: if you are exceptional anywhere, if you have a significantly

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Speaker 1: better defense. The Chiefs from twenty twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four had an exceptional defense, Deeve Spagnola exceptional defense.

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Speaker 1: They won two Super Bowls. They appeared in three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where they were on going foard and

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Speaker 1: fourth down second fust? In the league? You know who

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Speaker 1: went for it a lot, the Jets and the Titans.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers aren't winning the World Series because of analytics.

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Speaker 1: They've got more money and a smarter GM, and they

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Speaker 1: buy better players. Everybody talks about analytics in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City is the dominant team in the sport. They're

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Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Oklahoma City is built on defense

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Speaker 1: and one exceptional score and a great GM and coach.

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Speaker 1: They're not winning with three pointers. Seattle is so extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: uniquely coached and deep special teams defense. They don't play

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Speaker 1: by the same rules everybody does. You don't go for

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Speaker 1: it on fourth and five. That's not a go either

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Speaker 1: way call. That's a pin Drake made deep. They can't

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Speaker 1: put first downs together. Pin him deep. Take the points.

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Speaker 1: Nine to nothing felt like twenty four nothing six nothing

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Speaker 1: UFC than math class. Sometimes, intimidation tough getting into the

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Speaker 1: psyche or the head of your opponents. Drake May is

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Speaker 1: an accurate thrower. You watched him in that game. He

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Speaker 1: was intimidated. He didn't get he didn't want to get hit.

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Speaker 1: Drake May was rattled, he was nervous, he was intimidated.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't show up in analytics. Pin him deep. Here's

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold on not carrying the load and field goals

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Speaker 5: Bowl because of the guys in the locker room, because

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Speaker 5: of our coaching staff working their butts off every single day,

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Speaker 5: Like you know, that's why we're all here.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: Offense again, didn't I feel like we didn't.

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Speaker 1: Play as good as we could have. I certainly didn't

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Speaker 1: play as good as I could have.

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Speaker 5: But our defense at her back, our special teams out

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Speaker 5: are back, and we got the win.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not anti NA analytics, and not everybody can

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Speaker 1: play by Seattle or Denver's rules. But all year long,

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Speaker 1: Denver was a remarkable fourth quarter team. And I think

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's feeling was, our defense is so exceptional. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take the points. We're gonna end drives, We're gonna punt,

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna take big risks. I will open up

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Speaker 1: the playbook in the fourth quarter. I will take more risks.

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Speaker 1: Some do our demise in the fourth quarter. But there

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Speaker 1: are teams in this league this year, like Denver and

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Speaker 1: Houston and Seattle going for it makes no sense. Kansas

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Speaker 1: never went oh Andy Reid Mahomes. They rarely went for it.

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Speaker 3: Then go for it.

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Speaker 1: Why, I know everybody loves math. Okay, a lot of

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Speaker 1: times in this sport, momentum is huge, and Seattle's defense

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Speaker 1: was in dre May and Josh McDaniel's head. Don't let

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Speaker 1: him off the hook, Jmac last night, a refreshing Lebron

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Speaker 1: James coming out and admitting we're not very good. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear that? I did hear that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they played great against ok See, fell down the

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Speaker 3: Neither did Luca.

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Speaker 6: You know Austin Reeves coming off the bench.

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Speaker 1: Still on a minute, wouldn't it be nice to watch

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Speaker 1: an NBA game and the stars play?

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, man, it's a long season, eighty two games.

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Speaker 1: What do you watch? Funny because I watched the Super

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a four month season. He played seventeen

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Speaker 6: games versus eighty two. Come on, wait, what are you

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Speaker 1: Come on, love to see the stars occasionally? Show up

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Speaker 1: you Charles Barkley here, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get the nick right in five minutes,

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Speaker 1: but I thought it's the way too early. Five up,

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Speaker 1: five downs? This I okay, So five teams and it's

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Speaker 1: feel differently about these teams positively next year and then

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Speaker 1: five teams. And some of the teams that I have

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be as special. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: play five up, five down. Let's start glass half full.

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Speaker 1: So why I am at my core? First of all,

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Speaker 1: five up? The New York Giant is the easiest pick

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Speaker 7: Brandon Stanley is the problem. Darn it, Jim Harbor, that

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Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel will fix it. You are ball, I mean you,

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Speaker 1: What do we do with Sam Donald? Now? Where do

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Speaker 7: Well, listen, you don't. This is I mean, people can

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Speaker 7: say you're not objective. This is the one. I shouldn't

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Speaker 7: You never you never relented in believing this was possible,

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Speaker 7: Where he falls in the quarterback hierarchy is this Yesterday

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Speaker 7: I rather have Donald or Hurts? I would rather have Donald.

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Speaker 7: to the NFC Championship game. Donald just had and he's older.

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Speaker 7: So then it becomes Donald against the younger guys, Donald

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Speaker 7: or Golf. That's a coin flip to me. And then

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Speaker 7: the younger guys Caleb, Jayden, Jordan Love who's about his

435
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Speaker 7: age but feels youngs he didn't play much like. So

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Speaker 7: those are all debates. It's remarkable that those are debates,

437
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Speaker 7: But you hit on I think the most important point.

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Speaker 7: He led the league in turnovers and then in Week

439
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Speaker 7: eighteen with the one set on the line, didn't turn

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Speaker 7: it over. First playoff game, didn't turn it over, going

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Speaker 7: bar for bar with Matt Stafford in the NFC Championship Game,

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Speaker 7: which if that was the real Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He was the MVP of that game.

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Speaker 7: And then he did what Drake May wasn't able to

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Speaker 7: do in the Super Bowl avoid the disaster. And he

446
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Speaker 7: had three or four times in the Super Bowl, Colin

447
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Speaker 7: where I was like, oh, he's gonna get sacked, and

448
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Speaker 7: he escaped it just enough to get the ball off,

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Speaker 7: which is all that team needed. It felt to me, Colin,

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Speaker 7: like Mike Rabel's game plan was Sam Donald's gonna give

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Speaker 7: it to us. We just have to avoid disaster. The

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Speaker 7: concerto on offense, Donald will give it to us. The

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Speaker 7: very first throw of the game. I thought he gave

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Speaker 7: it to him. The very first throw I thought was

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Speaker 7: pig six and I was like, oh no, But it

456
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Speaker 7: got through and he never made a mistake like a

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Speaker 7: big mistake the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. We had a resurgence of defensive coaches,

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Speaker 1: and I do think it's funny. Liam Cohen got more

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Speaker 1: votes for Coach of the Year than Mike McDonald because

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Speaker 1: we can see offense Shanahan's motion, We can see Liam

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Speaker 1: Cohen's elevation of Trevor Lawrence, and with Liam was on

463
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Speaker 1: last week, brilliant guy. We can see mcveigh's offense, you

464
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Speaker 1: can't really see what a defensive coach does. You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know they draft well. And RG three was on

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Speaker 1: the show and yesterday and talked about that. Is that

467
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Speaker 1: we tend I mean, there's Mike McDaniel in Miami for

468
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Speaker 1: two years. Was the talk of the league because it

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Speaker 1: was sure, oh my god, it's clever. Mike McDonald's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, he's not McVeigh or shanahan,

471
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Speaker 1: but he's a heck of a coach. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: if we have take out Andy Reid, take out Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: And you said, all these great young coaches, has mcvaan

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Speaker 1: Shanahan have they met their equal in Seattle?

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Speaker 7: Well, so that's I think it's a great question because

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Speaker 7: the Mike McDonald, what his defenses have done since he's

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Speaker 7: been with Seattle eleven games against young quarterbacks, Those young

478
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Speaker 7: quarterbacks are one in ten, averaging less than sixteen points

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Speaker 7: a game. If you take his time, his two years

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Speaker 7: in Baltimore and then to Seattle where he's running defenses

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks in their first game first time seeing his defense,

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Speaker 7: ten and thirty three, again averaging less than sixteen points

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Speaker 7: per game. I think there are a couple things that

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Speaker 7: are working against Mike McDonald from like a PR perspective.

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Speaker 7: One is what you're alluding to. Offense seem like the

486
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Speaker 7: nerds who cover football, of which I'm kind of one,

487
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Speaker 7: lean offense, the analytics, lean offense.

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Speaker 1: Psyche candy.

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Speaker 7: It's like, right, a guy like you mentioned McVeigh and

490
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Speaker 7: Shanahan all go a level lower. Up until fifteen days ago,

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Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell was considered far above Mike mcdaie McDonald on

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Speaker 7: the coaching hierarchy because he's the quarterback whisperer guy, Kevin O'Connell. Well,

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Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell had a team that had Sam Darnold last

494
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Speaker 7: year and they got clocked in their first playoff game.

495
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Speaker 7: They didn't build it out like this, So I think

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Speaker 7: that has worked against him. And the other thing that

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Speaker 7: I think honestly has worked against him is East Coast

498
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Speaker 7: versus West coast publicity bias.

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Speaker 3: Like I think if he were the coach of.

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Speaker 7: Washington and he would have more the Washington Commanders rather

501
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Speaker 7: than Washington State.

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Speaker 3: I just think the.

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Speaker 7: Fact that Seattle plays a lot of those four h

504
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Speaker 7: five Eastern games. They're not like a front of the

505
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Speaker 7: Marquis team.

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Speaker 3: He rode a little more.

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Speaker 7: In anonymity as opposed to Brabel, who obviously was a

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Speaker 7: celebrity player. You know, a famous player, I should say.

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Speaker 7: But the fact that he's on the East Coast with

510
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Speaker 7: the Patriots while McDonald's on the West coast with the

511
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Speaker 7: with the Seahawks. I mean, I think Rabel's a great coach,

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Speaker 7: but the level of the pr machine for one versus

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Speaker 7: the other going into the Super Bowl was a little

514
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Speaker 7: too much. Like I had to read three articles Colin.

515
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Speaker 7: They're like, guess what Rabel did the practice before the

516
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Speaker 7: Super Bowl. You're not gonna believe it. Middle of practice,

517
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Speaker 7: he called his players off the field for an extended

518
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Speaker 7: halftime and even played bad Bunny on the speakers.

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Speaker 3: It's innovation.

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Speaker 7: We've never seen him like, guys, he didn't invent practicing

521
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Speaker 7: for the long halftime. But Brabel, who's an excellent coach

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Speaker 7: in Boston, famous guy, got a lot a lot of

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Speaker 7: cred leading up to the Super Bowl. McDonald not so much.

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Speaker 1: The there's so much here the uh I want to

525
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Speaker 1: ask this laker question because we've got a lot of football,

526
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Speaker 1: and we've got I see the clock. So the NBA

527
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Speaker 1: makes it hard to trade. The NFL does not, and

528
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Speaker 1: because of that, like Darren Peterson plays for Kansas. Draft him.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care that he's not available much.

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Speaker 1: You draft him. He's a three and D player. It's

531
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Speaker 1: a three and D league. I don't care that he

532
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Speaker 1: misses games. He was sick, people get sick, he has cramps.

533
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Speaker 1: He looks like Kobe. Draft him. I don't care. Christian

534
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey missed a Sun Bowl. People freaked out. It was

535
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Speaker 1: one of the best college backs I've ever seen. Draft

536
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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. So we were saying this with the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: I was reading the LA Times this week, as I'm

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Speaker 1: prone to do. I love the newspaper industry.

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Speaker 7: Of course, you even pantomimed you were reading, not on

540
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Speaker 7: your phone, you the all the broadsheets you were on.

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Speaker 7: You're in Chicago on the l train reading a physical

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Speaker 7: Los Angeles Times, bumping into people.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: You painted the picture.

546
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Speaker 1: And the Laker fans in the letters to the editor,

547
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Speaker 1: they all know the problem. Like every letter was, We're

548
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: atrocious defensively we're all offensive guys. And I said, Laker

549
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Speaker 1: fans know the problem. I don't think they know the

550
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Speaker 1: wrecking ball they need. I said, I think JJ Reddick's

551
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Speaker 1: good and Luca is excellent. I would move every buddy Okac, Detroit,

552
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: San Antonio elite defense is three best teams in the league.

553
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Speaker 1: You're pretty Lebron came out last night and to his credit, said,

554
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Speaker 1: the difference is they can play hard for forty eight minutes.

555
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Speaker 1: We can't. We can't do that. When you look at

556
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Speaker 1: the Lakers and Lebron, how do you part gracefully, Browny Lebron?

557
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: How do you make that whole thing work so it's gracious?

558
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Speaker 1: You bring the wrecking ball in? Is they are? This

559
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the most clunky, awful That's no

560
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Speaker 1: way to treat a star. Exit.

561
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Speaker 7: No, I don't think that'll be it, because Lebron's finished

562
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Speaker 7: his contracts up after this year, will be a free agent,

563
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Speaker 7: and I think he'll leave. Lebron has finished every contract

564
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Speaker 7: he's ever had, He's honored every contract he's ever at,

565
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Speaker 7: He's never been traded, never demanded a trade, and I

566
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Speaker 7: think he'll finish his time with the Lakers.

567
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Speaker 3: But I think the Lakers story is.

568
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Speaker 7: Of this last half decade is that of massive missed

569
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Speaker 7: opportunity because the Lakers now this deadline. They made a

570
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 7: marginal move trading for Luke Canard, but from the championship

571
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 7: until the Luca trade, they just stood pat every year

572
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Speaker 7: at the deadline.

573
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Speaker 3: They never tried. They always were more worried.

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Speaker 7: About max cap space down the road, when this is

575
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Speaker 7: no longer calling a max cap space league because no

576
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 7: great players hit free agency. Great players used to if

577
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Speaker 7: they wanted to change teams, let their contracts expire. Now

578
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 7: they're like team that I don't want to be on.

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Speaker 7: Can I have that extension?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

581
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Speaker 7: We signed it. I'd like to be traded please. So

582
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Speaker 7: max cap space is not that useful because what is

583
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Speaker 7: useful is either trade assets or going for it when

584
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Speaker 7: you have great players.

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Speaker 3: And I think the Warriors.

586
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Speaker 7: Made the mistake of this two timeline nonsense and threw

587
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Speaker 7: away the last few years of Steph's prime. And I

588
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 7: think the Lakers threw away the last couple years previously

589
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Speaker 7: when Lebron was still a top.

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Speaker 3: Three player in the league.

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Speaker 7: Then they got Luca and they still didn't accelerate. They're like, no,

592
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Speaker 7: we're gonna wait. We're gonna wait. Man, there is a

593
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Speaker 7: very real chance that the best teammate Luka Doncic ever

594
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Speaker 7: has in his Lakers career is Lebron James last year,

595
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Speaker 7: and the second best one might be Austin.

596
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Speaker 3: Reeves this year.

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Speaker 7: To not try to fix what is obviously a fatal

598
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Speaker 7: flaw of the roster, which is we have no defenders,

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Speaker 7: is baffling. And for them to be and it's not

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Speaker 7: even about Lebron. They are in back to back years

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Speaker 7: Colin punting on a chance to win the title with

602
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Speaker 7: prime Luka Doncic. You have prime Luka Doncic, and you're like,

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Speaker 7: this year is not the time. And honestly, if we

604
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Speaker 7: don't pull off a Jannis heist, next year's probably not

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Speaker 7: the time either.

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Speaker 3: It's baffling.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully the Dodgers folks that are taking it over have

608
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Speaker 7: a more clicking or ticking time clock than Blinka's had.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, they're not a championship level team because they can't.

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Speaker 7: They got to score one thirty five to win against

611
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Speaker 7: good teams. You're not gonna win three rounds that way,

612
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Speaker 7: let alone four.

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Speaker 1: All Right, buddy, you did a great job yesterday. You're

614
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Speaker 1: gonna have good shows all week and you can thanks,

615
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: and we'll get to the Chiefs next week. I didn't

616
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Speaker 1: want to burden you with that one. I wanted a

617
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Speaker 1: Lakers take Listen.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was it's nice for the whole NFL

619
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Speaker 7: to see how the Chiefs have been carrying the AFC

620
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Speaker 7: this decade. You see these Super Bowls when the Chiefs

621
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Speaker 7: aren't in them. You see these AFC playoffs when the

622
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Speaker 7: Chiefs aren't in them. A lot of Stidhammacklers, Stidham Drake

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Speaker 7: mate ten seven. You know, I mean, everybody missed Kansas

624
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Speaker 7: City a little bit. It's fine year off, be back

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Speaker 7: next year, see assume buddy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nick, right, first things first, Yeah, the it

627
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Speaker 1: was a it was a clunky AFC playoffs. The nfcs

628
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: were unbelievable. I was talking to my buddy in New York,

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Speaker 1: who is a Seahawk devoted Seahawk fan, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: six most cap space, best defense, young coach Darnold, team

631
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Speaker 1: friendly deal. They've got the first, second and third round picks.

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Speaker 1: They have about two to three needs the l answer

633
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Speaker 1: all those I'm not saying. I'm just saying, Seattle is

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Speaker 1: going to be really good next year. In the year

635
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: after then, you don't know. You can't project three years

636
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: out in pro football. You can project twenty four months.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

638
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 6: But if they lose one of two Walker or Shaheed,

639
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Speaker 6: and what if they lose two of two, they lose

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Speaker 6: both those.

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Speaker 1: Guys Shahez, you can lose. I mean, the punt.

642
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Speaker 6: Return against the Rams essentially saved their season, down sixteen

643
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Speaker 6: with eight minutes left in the game.

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Speaker 1: Walker, the shickoff returning Walker is very very important.

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Speaker 6: Charbonat will be back. But also I think this Koubiak

646
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 6: lost Colin. I don't want to draw a direct parallel

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Speaker 6: to what happened with Jared Goff and Ben Johnson, but

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Speaker 6: we saw when you lose your offensive coordinator that offense

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Speaker 6: sagged into addicted that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Goff was still fine. The problem you went from

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Speaker 1: the best offensive coordinator and it dropped down to in

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Speaker 1: house guy. So Clint Kubiak, I don't think it's Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I think he's good. So you're not that high. And

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Speaker 1: my my my gut is John Snyder and Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: Mike mc they don't choose guy down the home McDonald's

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Speaker 1: now they May, they May.

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Speaker 5: They're Saturday.

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Speaker 1: They're going to go in house for that. I don't

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Speaker 1: love that. But my take is Ben Johnson was the

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Speaker 1: best OC for three years. Clint Kubiack is a really

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Speaker 1: good OC, and the guy who replaced Ben Johnson it

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Speaker 1: didn't work. By mid season Campbell took it over. If

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Speaker 1: you hire a guy that's not Clint Kubiak but is capable,

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Speaker 1: isn't a really good roster and a really good GM.

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Speaker 1: I mean, last year's Super Bowl team was Philly led

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Speaker 1: by their GM. This year super Bowl is Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Philly Lester oc Kellen Moore goes to the Saints,

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Speaker 6: New OC little disaster.

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Speaker 1: Filled double digit wins, and it was a disaster, but

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Speaker 1: the division was a joke. Washington fell off a cliff. Wow.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're almost selling me on the opposite of Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Are you gonna go to nine wins? That division is brutal.

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Speaker 1: No, No, sal is gonna be good, be good. Slinging

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Speaker 1: Sammy d is coming back live in La at Star