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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, what's up? Greg?

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Speaker 2: Not a whole lot? I'm uh, it's a beautiful fucking

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Speaker 2: day outside.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think the pills I've been taking are working. It's

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Speaker 2: hard when you take, you know what, It's hard when

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Speaker 2: like you're trying to solve for X in your like

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Speaker 2: body and mind, you know what I mean. Like I've

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Speaker 2: been there for years. I've been trying to solve for X.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how much caffeine? What kind of pills am

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Speaker 2: I high? Am I sober? What time did I wake up?

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Speaker 2: What am I doing? You know, like this is all

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Speaker 2: this fun You're trying to solve for X of like

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Speaker 2: what are the exact what's the chemical equation that's gonna

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Speaker 2: make me a functioning human fucking being? And I feel

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Speaker 2: like a functioning human being right now, and I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the X is. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's pills, I don't know if it's sun I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's a combination of a bunch of things.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna ask any more fucking questions. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna en joy the feeling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's hard to get to that point sometimes,

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Speaker 1: like just just own it for a bit, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sometimes sometimes you don't. Sometimes you just don't

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Speaker 2: fucking have to ask questions. But uh, what's your name?

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Speaker 2: Did I ask you that already?

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Speaker 1: Brooks?

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Speaker 2: Brooks? What's up? Brooks? Is there anything you wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk about today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Sure, I mean I have a I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: really like respect what you do. I feel like there

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Speaker 1: needs to be more like mentors in the world. Kind

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Speaker 1: of is something I think you do in a weird way,

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Speaker 1: like for especially for like you know, I'm like millennial,

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Speaker 1: but like I feel like gen Z and like younger

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Speaker 1: millennial has never really got that mentorship. I feel actually online.

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Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable being. I'm I'm very honored that you

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Speaker 2: would refer to me as a mentor, but for some reason,

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Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable being Is that how?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think it needs to be like a

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Speaker 1: thing like a mentor's like, oh, it's like mister Miyagi like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're you know, whack whack song. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: someone that like you can kind of like someone who's

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Speaker 1: maybe like had a little bit more in life experience

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Speaker 1: than you or in your case, like talk to more

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Speaker 1: people to like understand more life experiences to help people

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Speaker 1: kind of like frame their you know, the way they're

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Speaker 1: feeling or what they're doing in their lives. And I

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, I want to I've been wanting

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Speaker 1: to like do that myself because like I had a

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Speaker 1: pretty crazy run in my twenties and you know, now

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Speaker 1: I'm like thirty five, and so I just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's just nice to be able to

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Speaker 1: kind of see people where they're at and like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: like you're doing all right. You say that a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's especially when someone calls like, oh, I'm nineteen, I'm

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Speaker 1: going through this crazy shit and it's like, yeah, you're nineteen,

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Speaker 1: just like chill.

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Speaker 2: Right through what you're going through and right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I just I really respect that. But yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I grew up like super conservative Christian in Texas,

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Speaker 1: and so like my parents were super strict, didn't let

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Speaker 1: me watch like I couldn't even watch like rug Rats.

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Speaker 1: I could only watch like Disney Channel. Rug Rats was

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Speaker 1: too like too much. So I just kind of lived

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Speaker 1: that life up until I was like, you know, sixteen seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and I was like whole Christian Anything doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because like you being Jewish. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that turned me off the most was like I

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Speaker 1: asked them in like Sunday schools, like did Jews go

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Speaker 1: to Heaven? And they're like, oh no, no, no, for

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Speaker 1: sure not yea. I was like, Ah, that doesn't that

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Speaker 1: doesn't work, that doesn't make sense. Yeah. So so I started,

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Speaker 1: and just like couldn't keep up that and working like

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Speaker 1: picking up DJing as a hobby because I've always been

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Speaker 1: ended up meeting this chick Sees. She came up to

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Speaker 1: she's like, so, I've been talking with my best friend,

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Speaker 1: in undergrad about this plan that we've had for whenever

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Speaker 1: his grandfather passed away, he was going to get an inheritance,

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Speaker 1: and they always had this plan to like move back

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Speaker 1: and like turn it into like a communal party festival

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna go do that, and whoa. I

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Speaker 1: talked to him about it, and he said, like, you're

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Speaker 1: do that? And I go drop everything. Like I'd only

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Speaker 1: lived in Texas, you know, twenty six at the time.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, let's do it. Texas was kind

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Speaker 2: I totally thought this was turning into a thing where

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Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I'm gonna go be with my Ax.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was, but also like I was invited along,

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Speaker 1: but basically him and his buddy had like his buddy

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Speaker 1: first year they were doing that. So he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I got your tickets to Burning Man, Like, let's go.

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Speaker 5: It's on me.

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Speaker 1: And so I went from like Texas, you know nothing

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Speaker 1: pretty hooked at that point. I was like, this is

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Speaker 2: So okay, So did she did your ex girl? Did

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Speaker 2: your girlfriend at the time like romantically get back together

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Speaker 2: with her? X?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I mean we were together still, okay, but I mean

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Speaker 1: there was still definitely I feel like that tension. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I was like blissfully unaware of it, and especially you know,

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Speaker 2: Were they like were they were they fucking.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Probably not. They didn't seem like

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Speaker 1: to kind and Elon Musk and like convince that she

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Speaker 1: was having a relationship with Kanye via Spotify. And it

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Speaker 1: fixated on like Elon Musk and Donald Blubber and the

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Speaker 2: Okay, like recreation, I've only done. Yeah, I've never. I like,

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Speaker 1: I've done multiple sessions of ketamine therapy with myself, my

434
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: friends in the back like in the green rooms of nightclubs,

435
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: just like you just like you do it, and like

436
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't know a whole.

437
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: Lot, I don't know if I would necessarily refer to

438
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: that as ketamine therapy.

439
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: It was ketamine assisted therapy in the sense that like

440
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, yeah, I do think that people.

441
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I.

442
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: I think I'm glad I worked for buy. There is

443
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: there's definitely a difference between doing it recreationally and doing it,

444
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: ah it with like a you know, a person.

445
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never died. I really never read therapy like

446
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: air quotes around therapy. But I also do believe that

447
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: like therapy can be sought with like in your community,

448
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: like in the sense that like having someone just listen

449
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: to you and you being able to open up about

450
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: yourself and then them asking you like probing questions and

451
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: helping you reframe it, like is the basis of psychotherapy,

452
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: And like yeah, sure, I mean license thing you can

453
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: call it.

454
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: They call it self medicating.

455
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if it was purely just about the

456
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: drugs and just like sitting by yourself and doing the drugs,

457
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, that also has its own benefits, like they've

458
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: shown in reducing depression. But like I find it and

459
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's as a social like and

460
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is something for like someone who

461
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: has like you know, you know, treatment resistant PTSD or depression.

462
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying that you should just go like

463
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: buy a bag and go sit in the back like

464
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: green room of a nightclub, but like for people just

465
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of like going through or like daily life struggles

466
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: or like breakups and things like that that like can

467
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: lead to depression. Like you know, I've we've had you know,

468
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: just you have these interactions that were assisted by some drugs.

469
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were just like completely hammered out

470
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: of our minds like these are things, you know, just

471
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: like in a recreational dose, it's much smaller than when

472
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: you get a kedemye an infusion and you're like out

473
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: off and outer space and then you blast off for

474
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: thirty minutes and then you come back and talk to

475
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: a therapist. You know, we're talking about like mild doses

476
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: like a key bod you know, like.

477
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: I I would love to I've never yeah I have.

478
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: I haven't had a lot of experience with your ketamine

479
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: as a as a club drug or even you know,

480
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: have I done the infusions yet? But uh, i'd love

481
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: I haven't done m d M A in a very

482
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: long in a few years, but I the few times

483
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: that I've done it have been fucking sick. I want

484
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: I'd love to do like a like an MDMA therapy journey,

485
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: fucking thing that would be sick. Maybe one day I'll

486
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: do something like that.

487
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, And is amazing for like a couple's therapy too,

488
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: because we get like closer with someone and you can

489
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: talk about the things you might not normally talk about.

490
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it just it puts you in this like

491
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: crazy like people get very very vulnerable emotionally. Uh on MDMA.

492
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: That's the that's like that's probably I mean, that's the

493
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: coolest part about it is that everyone like really lowers

494
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: their uh like emotional barriers and like kind of connects

495
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: with each other.

496
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's different from ketemine in that way,

497
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: where like where you feel like a disconnection with ketamine,

498
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: with Indima, you feel like a deep connection like and

499
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: even like if that's to like with like within yourself,

500
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: like to your inner child or something like that, you know,

501
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Like whereas like ketamine, like you can like associate, like

502
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: associate from traumas and like kind of like talk about it,

503
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: whereas like india A, you're like really like feeling these

504
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: things and like feeling the love or feeling the trauma

505
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: and like really like kind of like you know, as

506
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: opposed to like zooming out, you're really zooming in. It's

507
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of the way I've experienced it.

508
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Well, well, listen, enough of this hippie enough of this

509
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: hippie shit, Enough of this hippie ship, enough of this

510
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: hippie shit. I have I am. I have business questions

511
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: for you. I'm very curious, Yeah, yeah about about a

512
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: lot of the things that you said about this thing

513
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: that you do. So what so where is it and

514
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: what is it? And tell more, I'm very curious.

515
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's basically like out in the middle of

516
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: the woods in Mendocino County, like kind of almost to Humboldt,

517
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: which I don't know how much northern California stuff you've done,

518
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: but it is like, you know, like the neighbors are growing.

519
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: We like it's like, you know, it's out in the country.

520
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the reason that we picked the

521
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: spot was because we want to be able to play

522
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: loud music for seventy two hours and so basically, yeah,

523
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: that's that was kind of the purpose for being out there.

524
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: So far as you know, it's like we know our neighbors,

525
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: like sometimes we have to pay them off for go

526
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: to my hotel room so that we can last housemat

527
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: house and techno music all night.

528
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Wrong and so you do and so you do this.

529
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: You do this once a week. I mean not once

530
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: a week, once a year.

531
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no no no, I have a job.

532
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I work for a sign company. But like this is

533
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: like kind of like the Passion Project.

534
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: You know.

535
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, we have like probably personally, like I'm involved

536
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: in like two or three campouts out there. A year

537
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: up to like the last the big one was like

538
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty people cool and yeah, and it's

539
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: like Thursday through Monday, like NonStop music, NonStop partying, like

540
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, and it's all it's like, you know, kind

541
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: of built on like Burning Man ethos, which like the

542
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: whole thing about Burning Man is like you show up,

543
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: you bring your own stuff, like and we'll provide you

544
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: with like water and maybe a couple of meals. But

545
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: then like you're supposed to be like self sufficient, pick

546
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: up after yourself, leave no trace, like take care of

547
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: each other. And so yeah, you can get two hundred

548
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: fifty people in the middle of the woods and have

549
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: them be partying for you know, four or five days

550
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: in a row. And we've never had to take any

551
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: one of the hospital except for like one guy got

552
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: a kidney stone watch or like we've never had anyone

553
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: break anything. And oh, granted this is also like people

554
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: and they're like late twenties, early thirties, you know, kind

555
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: of yeah, you know, if we were having like more

556
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: of like a edm Rave you know, crowd, like, I'm

557
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: sure we definitely have a lot more.

558
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: Well, actually, that actually brings me to another thing I

559
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: was curious about is well because you you you referred

560
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: to me as a mentor earlier in this call, and

561
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: now I ask of your mentorship because I'm curious what

562
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: it feels like. I've been thinking a lot about like

563
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: getting getting older and stuff, and like I'm always thinking

564
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: about like what the hell is my life gonna be

565
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: like in you know, ten years or eight years or

566
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: what ever. And so you know, I'm I'm interested talking

567
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: to you because you seem like a guy who is

568
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: also is also kind of a chaser in terms of

569
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: like life experiences and like personal growth bullshits, And so

570
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: what's what's it feel like for you at thirty five

571
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: versus at twenty seven in this life journey?

572
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I could have never imagined where I am

573
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: now compared to where I was at, Like I felt

574
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: very similar to where you are now, like very stuck,

575
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: like doing awesome things like still DJing, still like doing

576
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: cool shit, but like kind of just in this like

577
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: pattern of like work, party on the weekends, where party

578
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: on the weekends, or you know your case, like you know,

579
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: like travel tour, whatever you're you know, kind of like

580
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: rhythm that you're finding yourself in. But I mean eventually,

581
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: like you know, it just took like some crazy leap

582
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: of faith and next thing you know, a month later,

583
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of the desert, like on mushrooms,

584
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: playing music to like a hundred people that are just

585
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: like so excited that I'm there. And like, I've never

586
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: experienced that in that way before. Like when you're DJing

587
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: at a club, it's very like disconnected, Like they show up,

588
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: they buy a drinks, they leave, But like this is like, oh,

589
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: we're all camping in the middle of the desert together,

590
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: like we're going to get to know each other over

591
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: the next many days and like but yeah, I mean

592
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: like it's all about like really, it's just about like

593
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: finding a really tight knit community. And like no, I

594
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: mean I still think, like you got to go to

595
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Bernie Man.

596
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: It's like just you know, you know what's funny is

597
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: what we were. You know what's funny is I've been

598
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: intently listening to you. You're you're great at telling telling

599
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: your story. But while you were talking, I had a

600
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: on this phone call. I had a few times where

601
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: my mind's and I was like, I gotta go back

602
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: to doing music festivals and fucking I gotta go to

603
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Burning Man and like like you're like you're you're getting

604
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: me excited. I'm like, oh, I forgot that. The energy

605
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: of those fucking things is just like out of this world.

606
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: I would love.

607
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I know, it's like what gets me through like the

608
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: depressed or like like through the winter, Like whenever I'm

609
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: feeling down, it's like, oh man, summer's right around the corner,

610
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: like doing this, camp out, doing that. Like you need

611
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: those things in your lives to like to build, Like

612
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: you get all of this like super excitement from these

613
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: insane parties or.

614
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Whatever your traveling shok forward to.

615
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like in like so Burning Man, it's

616
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: like every year, you know, once once the end of

617
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: summer comes around, it's like you're starting to pull out

618
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: the dusty gear and it's just like getting in those

619
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of rhythms like and you know, that's like things

620
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: that we used to have like back in like tribal

621
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, like with equinox parties and like solstice, like

622
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: we would always like kind of have these ritualistic festival

623
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: type things or you know, not even tribalistic, but like

624
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: in like you know, just in you know, now it's

625
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: like it's also corporatizing. It's like, oh, no one's really

626
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: getting that excited about Halloween or Chris Smith or like

627
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: it's just it's so like boring in corporate now. It's like,

628
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: but when you have something like burning Man or like

629
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: I know, you like electric forests or stuff like that,

630
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: like just buying a ticket for that, even if six

631
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: months out can like totally just change the way you're

632
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, excitement levels can be through like they through

633
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: the times and you're kind of down.

634
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Do you know what my next actually, you know what,

635
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm my next My next thing is I gotta I

636
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: gotta get a ticket for this before it's too late,

637
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: because I'm this is a thing I'm going, you know what,

638
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: maybe that maybe I'll I can you still go to?

639
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say my next thing, I'm I'm almost

640
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: certainly going to go to the gathering of the Juggalos.

641
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go since I was like fourteen,

642
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: and I think I'm I would really like to go

643
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: there and uh be a gecko and talk to people there.

644
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: I think that'd be fun as fuck.

645
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can still get tickets?

646
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: Can you go to? Can I still get tickets to

647
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: Burning Man? Has that where is it a tickets?

648
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah thing? Well well so I thought it was just

649
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: show up.

650
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: I thought it was like a fucking well so back.

651
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: In the day, it used to be able to buy

652
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: tickets at the gate. Over the last ten years, it's

653
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: been like sold out because kind of like the you know,

654
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: it became like this like you know, bucket list thing

655
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: where like you know, Instagram influencers and tech you know

656
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: bros kind of like turned it into something totally different.

657
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: But now like last year was the first year it

658
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: didn't sell out and they had tickets for sale at

659
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: the gate again, So like if you want to go,

660
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: you can get tickets now, all right, So that anyone

661
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: listening like yeah, who's who thought that Burning Man? Or

662
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: you've heard about it, but I heard it impossibly get tickets.

663
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Like it's now becoming a thing where you can go,

664
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Like it used to be really hard.

665
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: I know that every YouTube motherfucker has done it to death,

666
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: but it would be really I don't even get I

667
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about that. I I would be

668
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: really fun to just show up and and do my

669
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: Gecko interviews there and shout I remember doing them at

670
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 2: but I remember doing them at Bonnau a few years ago,

671
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: and that was that was fun. I always have a

672
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: great time doing the the Gecko ship at at those festivals.

673
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: What's your name again?

674
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: Well, if you want to go, let me know. I'll

675
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: get you set up with the survival kit because it's ship.

676
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: It's not like a regular festival where you can just

677
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: like show up in a gecko suit, like you got

678
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: to either get an r V or like serious like

679
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: tense situation going, because I mean, a week out in

680
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: the desert is a lot harder than like a weekend

681
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: in a in a forest grove.

682
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: You know, what's what's your name again, sir Brooks? Brooks?

683
00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: What's what's next for you? Brooks? What's uh? What's getting married?

684
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: How?

685
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: You?

686
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

687
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: Yes, you are getting married? You? Oh yeah, okay? You

688
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: you know what's funny? Yeah? You told me a whole

689
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: bunch of things that popped up a lot of questions

690
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: that I had. And then we started talking about Keadamine

691
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: and I forgot the questions, But now I have the

692
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: questions again. Well, how'd you meet this new late? How

693
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: did you meet this new lady? How'd you meet the

694
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: new tender? Tender? Yeah, it was Yeah, okay, you know what,

695
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: I am incredibly invested in this because I'm the super

696
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 2: like or unhinged the rose. Right, it's it's weird, it's

697
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: seen some people could perceive it. For those of you

698
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: who are not on dating apps, the the super like

699
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: in the rose is the thing where you can like

700
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: pay the app or sometimes you get like one whatever

701
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: it is. You you pay the app.

702
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, like ten bucks a month, you got like

703
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: one a week when I did it.

704
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you pay for like a rose or

705
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: a super like, and it makes sure that when you

706
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: like like a person's profile it they see it.

707
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

708
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: Some people feel as though the super like or the

709
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: rose can be seen as desperate, can be seen as.

710
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Or are we all desperate?

711
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: But that? But but a beautifully said by you, aren't

712
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: we all desperate? Aren't we all desperate? You know what?

713
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 5: I hate?

714
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: This is a hold on. I'm following a billion different

715
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: trains of thought because I do want to talk more

716
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: about the super like thing. But I hate when people

717
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: say that. I hate when people, as like a negative connotation,

718
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: say that somebody is attention seeking or like or like

719
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: a pick me or whatever. Because I hate when people

720
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: say that because we all we're all naturally attention seeking,

721
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: we're all uh pick mees in our own way.

722
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: But and the super like, I mean, it's as evolution.

723
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: It's the basis of all evolution. And so I hate

724
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: when people say like, oh, like, this person's like an

725
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: attention or whatever. But anyway, the superike is there's a

726
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: bit of a fear of it being yeah too much.

727
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: And yet I love hearing that you are getting fucking

728
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: married to somebody because you sent the fucking super like

729
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: that ten fucking dollars. This is not an ad for Tinder,

730
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: but I am genuinely amazed that that ten fucking dollars

731
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: has completely changed the course of your entire life for

732
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: the better. That is, that's mesmerizing to me.

733
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean like because I had been on

734
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: the dating apps for a few months. So I just

735
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: got out of this super long relationship, and I've been

736
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: on the dating apps for a few months, but I

737
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: really just kind of got my own room and was

738
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: like out on my own where I felt like I

739
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: could actually date. She had been on it for like days,

740
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, and it was that kind of thing where

741
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: it was like if if if I hadn't super liked her,

742
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she probably had one hundred other matches to

743
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: scroll through. She would have never found me. She would

744
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: have found someone else within date, Like she would have

745
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: been out at the dating pool within a week, whereas

746
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: like I would have probably been swiping for years. And

747
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: you know who knows like and I found my soulmate.

748
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Like we've been together for over six years now. We

749
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: do everything together.

750
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: We wow.

751
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like she one of the reasons

752
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: I had a super liked because she had a picture

753
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: of her at Burning Man. This goes back to why

754
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: Burning Man like changed my life so much. Like if

755
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: I hadn't been to Burning Man and realized, like, oh

756
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: I see this person has also been to Burning Man.

757
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: We share these values, we share these interests. She's clearly

758
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: worth a super like. And you know, we went on

759
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: a first date and I had gone on a previous

760
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: I'd been kind of dating a scull previously where I

761
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: had like spilled my whole story about what had happened

762
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: with my ex and like, you know, been vulnerable with her.

763
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: And the next day she texted me was like, Hey,

764
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I really still think you're hung up on your ex, Like,

765
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: send me this long text and I just like responded

766
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: like okay, and I felt like so empowered just not

767
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: to like try and like defend and like no, no, no,

768
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: it's not true. Like I was just like okay, Like

769
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: I knew right there it wasn't gonna work. So on

770
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: our first date, I just completely unloaded all this like

771
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: trauma and bullshit I've been through for the past so

772
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: many years. And she's like, oh, really, let me tell

773
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 1: you my story. And she went to her past seven

774
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: years of how she had just got out of relationship

775
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: with her shity acts, and so we immediately because I

776
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: was vulnerable, we immediately connected on a deeper level. And

777
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: what could she was like saying, like I was supposed

778
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: to be a girl. I was just supposed to be

779
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: a fling, Like she had just got now this relationship.

780
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: She wanted to be wild and single, but what could

781
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: have been a one night stand turned into iffrong relationship

782
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: because I was vulnerable on that first date. So yeah,

783
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: So like if you have people who come with dating advice,

784
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: since like, oh, I've been through all this shit, like

785
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know when I should, like if it's truly,

786
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: if it's a soul match, if it's someone you're truly

787
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: meant to be with and you just vomit all that

788
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: stuff on them. Like then they're like they're gonna be

789
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: interested in you because that is who you are. It's

790
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: like on a deeper.

791
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: Level, No, I feel that I I one hundred percent

792
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: agree with you on that because like, yeah, you're you're not.

793
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: The more vulnerable you're willing to be on like a

794
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: first date, uh, and the more you're willing to you know,

795
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: kind of like put yourself out there. And I think

796
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: a lot of like, like I think that there's people

797
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: kind of mistake like vulnerability when it's truly just like

798
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just throw this out there and I don't

799
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: care what you think about it is is attractive? I

800
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: think that like the people get hung up on like oh,

801
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: if I like reveal too much or if I fuckingh

802
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: am too vulnerable, it comes off as like needy. But

803
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: it only comes off as needy if it is if

804
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: there is a need. But if it's more of just

805
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: like being like try honest to God, vulnerable just because

806
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: you like as like an expression of who you are,

807
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: you know, the right people, uh latch onto that shit.

808
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know It's like it wasn't attractive to this

809
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: one girl, but it was to my soulmate, you know,

810
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: so like that it did it exactly what it intended me.

811
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: I might have gotten to a six months, year long

812
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: relationship with this person before I figured out which it

813
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: wasn't the one, just because I was so desperate for

814
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: love and attention at that point. But like, yeah, yeah,

815
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: we're getting married and it's amazing, Like I'm like having

816
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: all my family lie in, Like we're spending oh, like

817
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars wedding.

818
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Christ, what are you? Why are you spending thirty five

819
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on a wedding?

820
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Dude? It's that expensive. It's like literally like seven grand

821
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: for the venue, eight grand for the catering like this,

822
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: Like it just it just is that expensive. We went

823
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: into this like.

824
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna spend your your your whole thing is throwing

825
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 2: fucking cheap ass, I assume. I mean, I actually don't

826
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: know what the finances are of these kinds of things,

827
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: so never mind. But your whole thing is doing like

828
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: d I y fucking events. I'm surprised. I'm surprised you're

829
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: just spending thirty five dollars.

830
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: We both have day jobs. We both have day jobs. No,

831
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: and so we are doing we're doing like the in

832
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: the church event. Like I come from a super Christian

833
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: family and this is like my sister never got married.

834
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: This is kind of like the only wedding for my family.

835
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it was just like we're also

836
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: doing a full on camp out wedding at the property.

837
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Like but I couldn't have I couldn't have family there.

838
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and that wed one wedding with

839
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: yeah exactly, with wine and crackers, and one with ketamine

840
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: and MD.

841
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: And NonStop music, yeah exactly. I mean because I had

842
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: always said, like, oh yeah, let's just get married at

843
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: the property. We'll save that money, will buy a house,

844
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: and you know, the closer we got to and it

845
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: just you know, the logistics of even just bringing out

846
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: my family just for the ceremony, like cause it's in

847
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, getting a hotel an hour away.

848
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: Just it's like, you know what, let's just do it,

849
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Like we can buy a house. We can save money,

850
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Like if we can save money to ford this wedding,

851
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: we can save money to buy a house. Like it

852
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: just it mattered to us, you know, and so yeah,

853
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean I wish it wasn't as expensive as it was,

854
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: but like the reality is like if you want to

855
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: get a venue and a caterer and this and that,

856
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Like it's just like once put the word wedding in

857
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: front of any expense, it doubles.

858
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: I still I'm not over the super like thing. I'm

859
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: really not, because it's like you pressed, I really like that.

860
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: I remember I met a couple, Like every time I

861
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: hear stories like this, right, Like, I met a couple

862
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: once many years ago in Philly, and I was I

863
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: asked them how they met, and they said they met

864
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: on the train, and I was like, Bro, this fucking

865
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: guy like was on his way home from work, and

866
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: if he if he stopped to tie his shoes and

867
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: he got on a different train five minutes later, his

868
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: whole life would be different. That That's like, that's like scared.

869
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: That almost makes me feel like, oh, you know, in

870
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: what situation? Every single situation is like uh, you know,

871
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: you know, you know the concept of like missing your blessing.

872
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: Have you heard that? I always wonder that. I get

873
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: like I get like sad about that. Sometimes I'm like, oh,

874
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: and what situations have I been in where I miss

875
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: missed my blessing and actually.

876
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: Moves linearly Like you can't. It doesn't work in this

877
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: whole like like the whole idea, like oh, every every

878
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: decision you didn't make or made or thought about making

879
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: branches off into another reality. But like time only moved

880
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: in one line, you know, like yes, so like you're

881
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: just gonna get You're gonna get what you get. And yeah,

882
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: I could have super liked the girl one before or

883
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: one after her when I was swiping, like could have

884
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: been a you know, a hot blonde bimbo with fat tits,

885
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: and I would have been like, oh, super like that,

886
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: like you know, like but no, I waited and I

887
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 1: saw someone at Burning Man and I was like, that's

888
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: someone I actually super like.

889
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, okay. So I was talking earlier about

890
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: like like like intrusive thoughts come in and like you

891
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: challenge them, And what you just said made a lot

892
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: of sense, because yeah, I'll get like weirdly stressed about

893
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: when I hear about shit like that is like oh, am,

894
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: I supposed to be in the a on a train

895
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: right now or whatever the fuck. And you know, wondering

896
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: if like how to because I think a lot of

897
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: people are obsessed with like making like the right choices,

898
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, and then you kind of realize that exactly

899
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: time only does move in one direction, and you can't

900
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: stress yourself out about the possibility of alternative realities because

901
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: you just these don't know. And also I also am

902
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: I mean me personally like my life. I had a

903
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: random fucking idea to buy a gecko costume in like

904
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and when I know this is before our pan,

905
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: I made like, I just made this random YouTube video

906
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: that I took off my channel. I made this random

907
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 2: YouTube video where I'm wearing this costume. And so that's

908
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: the reason I had the costume. And when I bought

909
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: the costume, I didn't know that it would lead to

910
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: this crazy thing. I didn't know, and so that's a

911
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: blessing that I had. And I think, to me, there's

912
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: a lot of I think, to stress out about whatever

913
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: potential blessings you missed is not the thing to focus on.

914
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: It's you know, I'm happy for blessings I did have,

915
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: or curses that I missed, you know, I mean, God,

916
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: how many fucking random times or people in a wrong

917
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: situation where they you know, die or some shit. You know,

918
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: you just never know, you have to surrender. I think

919
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: at a certain point, you have to surrender yourself, like

920
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: like have a little bit of like this is the

921
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: whole determinism versus free will shit, like you know, have

922
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: free will when you want, but like you got to

923
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: surrender to a little bit of life's determinism.

924
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like when I would thinking about leaving Texas,

925
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: like I had a million red flags going off in

926
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: my head, like you know, like what if she's not

927
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: the one? What if this goes south? What if this

928
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: becomes a weird love triangle situation? And like, well, the

929
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: answer is what if all those things are true? But

930
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: by taking that initial leap of faith, you still find

931
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: yourself with your people and with your soulmate and like

932
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: the happiest. I could have never been as happy if

933
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: I had stayed where I was, Like I truly believe

934
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: that I would maybe, yeah, I don't know, Like who knows.

935
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: I could have gone down a path of you know,

936
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: I was drinking a ton, like drug addiction, God knows what.

937
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: You know, if I had decided to break up with

938
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: her and go back to being single, in my late twenties. Like,

939
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: who knows what kind of shit I could have got into,

940
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: Like I mean shit, I probably would have just got

941
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: arrested for smoking weed like I already had twice.

942
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: You know, I would have.

943
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: Been in jail for smoking a weed in Texas.

944
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: I Yeah, it is cool that. I think in general,

945
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: life tends to reward putting yourself out there in some

946
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: way shape or for him.

947
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you gotta get I was too comfortable, like

948
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: I get too. I get comfortable too ec like I

949
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: had just you know, I had lived in one town

950
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: until I was eighteen, and then in a college town

951
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: for another eight years, even after I'd dropped out, because

952
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: I was comfortable there, like I had friends. I was

953
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: a DJ. Like but yeah, you gotta, you gotta. I

954
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: don't know, like I I would have never seen myself

955
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: doing that before, but I did it.

956
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: It was amazing.

957
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: Wow, are you gonna DJ at your own wedding? Yeah?

958
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Just for a little bit. Well, actually, I'm going to

959
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: pre record all of the music for like the like

960
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: when you get sad, and like during the cocktail hour

961
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: and like the dinner and stuff. So I will be

962
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: DJing like my entire wedding, but I want to have to

963
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: do anything. It's gonna be all pre recorded.

964
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: Okay, that's their own mix for the wedding.

965
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's sick, Yeah, because I don't trust

966
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: anyone else's DJ for my own wedding. But then so

967
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: like after that, like all of our wedding party is

968
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: also DJs. So like I'm going to DJ for thirty

969
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: and then like best man and then kroomsman and bridesmaid

970
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: and like all like so all the wedding party is

971
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: going to DJ for the dance party portion of the

972
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: events you did?

973
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: Do you have your name as like the headline? Like

974
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: are you you're headlining your wedding?

975
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that.

976
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: I guess can you tell me your name for the

977
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: fifth time?

978
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Brooks? I'm going by Brooks for this call because I

979
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: feel like I don't know, it's pretty much it was

980
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: a bee.

981
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brooks. I'm gonna I'll ask the chat if they

982
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: have any questions if if if yeah, yeah, is the

983
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: chat of any questions for Brooks. We'll do a couple

984
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: of questions here.

985
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Something about be about ketamine, or to be about Bernie.

986
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: Mann uh let's or it might just be your about

987
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: something random. So so what's your Oh yeah, what type

988
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: of music do you play?

989
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: House music?

990
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: House music?

991
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: I like funky, like classic sounding house music, but like

992
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: the newer like tech house kind. I don't know we describe.

993
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: Uh, someone said, why do you get sad during a wedding?

994
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I put people crying during

995
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: weddings or just actually getting sad during a wedding. I mean, uh,

996
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: I've never gotten sad during a wedding. I think maybe

997
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: if you're alone, you might get sad at a wedding,

998
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think that person's ask themselves

999
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: why they get they get sad at wedding?

1000
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: WHOA, Well, well, I think they said that because you

1001
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: mentioned you said the words sad. But whose who cares?

1002
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: Who cares?

1003
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: All?

1004
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 5: Right?

1005
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: Was your music impact did in any way when you

1006
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: entered a relationship.

1007
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. Yeah, I mean it's interesting.

1008
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: So she her music was actually more impacted than mine.

1009
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: I would say, because like, I was a part of

1010
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: this house music collective we've been throwing these events, and

1011
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: she was kind of a part of like the like

1012
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: underground music scene is usually divided between like bass music

1013
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and house music. Or like house of techno, and so

1014
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: she came was coming from the bass music side of things,

1015
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: where her ex was like a DJ in the local scene,

1016
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: and now she was like coming over to the like

1017
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: to the light side in my and then you know,

1018
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: there's like the dark side of the force, and bas

1019
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: music's very like dark and brooding, and like house music's

1020
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: very like fun and playful. So so she had to

1021
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: make a really big transition from going to like being

1022
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: deep in this bass music scene to being in this

1023
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: house music scene, which is totally different for her. But

1024
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: as far as the way she's impacted me, I mean,

1025
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: she you know, she will play music that I wouldn't play.

1026
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: If I'm like playing music, I'm gonna play like house

1027
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: mus it's gonna be like digging and looking for new tracks.

1028
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: But she will play like indie music and electronica and

1029
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: stuff that's like, you know, stuff that I wouldn't normally

1030
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: think about playing in a DJ set, but then like

1031
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: I hear it and it's like, oh, this would be

1032
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: really cool if I mixed it in this way or

1033
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: a part of like a you know, like a set

1034
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: that was like more down tempo and chill. And then

1035
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: I then from there, I'll look for new artists that

1036
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: are kind of like tailoring into that vibe, and I'm

1037
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: finding like a whole new different band of music, and

1038
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: it's like a whole new genre. I'm like now I'm

1039
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: into like one hundred bpm slow mo house with like

1040
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: hip hop vocals and like indie influences and stuff.

1041
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: Man, I just like uh doing doing the MDMA and

1042
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: looking at the colors. I I anytime people talk about, uh,

1043
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: like electronic music, I know it has like eighty million genres.

1044
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not my ear isn't trained enough

1045
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: to hear all the here all the different types.

1046
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: But it's the vibes, like I guess, like so like

1047
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: with like the house music scene like in Burning Man

1048
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: or like Desert Hearts or stuff like that on the

1049
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: West Coast, Like it's just like house music is just

1050
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: more like an up tempo like four on the floor

1051
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: like boom boom boom boom, like steady like dance beat groove,

1052
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: which is like people played at Burning Man because like

1053
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: you're just you're just kind of like going for days

1054
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: and days on end, and it just kind of becomes

1055
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: this like heartbeat and this like walking tempo whereas like

1056
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: bass music is very much like you show up and

1057
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: the headliner gets on and he's like put your fucking

1058
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: hands in here. He's like paw and you know you

1059
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: like do that. You thrash around in a mosh pit

1060
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: for a few hours, but then like your drugs were

1061
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: off and you go past that in the tent, Whereas

1062
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: like the house music people are up at sunrise like

1063
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: still just kind of thumping along like.

1064
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: Brooks. Yeah, it is a pleasure talking to you, man.

1065
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1066
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Man, I've been calling for a while. I've been listening,

1067
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: as you could tell for a while. I'll like mad

1068
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: respect you and your show. I hope, I hope if

1069
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: you ever tour you make a stop in Reno.

1070
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: Let me know. Uh, I don't know. I don't know

1071
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: what my life schedule whatever the fuck is like. But

1072
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: next time you're having one of these one of these things,

1073
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: let me know if I'm in the area. I'll maybe

1074
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: I'll come.

1075
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, So shoot you an email or what.

1076
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: Uh Instagram Instagram DM so I checked this or.

1077
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: An email DM Yeah, I'll you DM right now. Fuck you, yeah, man,

1078
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: Because if and thing goes for you, like if you

1079
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: want to go to burning Man, or you want to

1080
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: try out like a West Coast house music festival or

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00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: just something to shake it up, because like, you know,

1082
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: you're getting to the age where the d M shit's

1083
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: not gonna it's gonna not it's not gonna do it

1084
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: for you anymore. You know, you're going to start one

1085
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: to branch out into more mature genres of music.

1086
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 2: And I don't like if it ever did do anything

1087
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: for me.

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Maybe not the music, but like the people. I don't know,

1089
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: like you want to like because like the EDIM festivals,

1090
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: it's always going to be like eighteen to twenty five. Yeah,

1091
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: there's going to be older people there, but that's gonna

1092
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: be like the majority of it. Like once you start

1093
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: getting into your late twenties early thirties, like for whole

1094
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: vibe changes, and it's nice to be around that same

1095
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: vibe in my opinion.

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00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: So, Brooks, is there anything else you want to say

1097
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: Oh, man, I should have thought about this. You always

1099
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: think about it when you're listening, but when you.

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00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: Get here, No, whatever's in your people always say that.

1101
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: People are always like, oh I didn't have anything, Just

1102
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: whatever's in your gut?

1103
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1104
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just just take the plunge, you

1105
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: shoot the super like, move across the country, go to

1106
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: Burning Man, Like, just do it because you don't know

1107
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: what you don't know what's going to come out of it,

1108
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: Like it could change your life, it could be a

1109
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: terrible experience, could be both.

1110
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: We are going to sell, so we're gonna sell so

1111
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: many super likes with this podcast. I'm very h I.

1112
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: Hope we saw. We've a couple of Burning Man tickets though.

1113
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm yeah.

1114
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Brooks, congratulations on, congratulations on on a beautiful life man,

1115
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: and thank you for thank you for this session of

1116
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: mentoring me. You're the mentor. Now take care.

1117
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: Brooks, ha, you keep it up while man, he's the best.

1118
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: Thank you man, take care all right. I liked that guy.

1119
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: That was a good That was a good phone call. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love those I love those music festivals, man, I

1121
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: love getting to chat with people at them. I haven't

1122
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: been uh in a while, but they're fun. They attract

1123
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: a cool energy. Yeah, I was asking. I was curious

1124
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: with Brooks about like being thirty five because it's like

1125
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: you kind of I think when you're growing up you

1126
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: have this like idea of like what adulthood is supposed

1127
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: to look like. And then as you get older, and

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00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: as you get to you know, meeting more people and

1129
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: see more things, you kind of realize that there is

1130
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: really no uh uh way in which you are forced

1131
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: to subscribe to life, which is an interesting it's an

1132
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 2: interesting thing to think about. Drugs, sex, violence, porn, Nintendo. Okay, hello, Hey,

1133
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: what's up man?

1134
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: Uh? Nothing much?

1135
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Tell you I'm doing good, dude. So you So, I

1136
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: I get texts sometimes people text me with stuff and

1137
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: and if I find it interesting, I'll call them back.

1138
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: And I saw that you. You texted me that you

1139
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: were the you were one of the people that I

1140
01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: brought up on stage at my show in London. Uh,

1141
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: And I remember your story and I remember that moment

1142
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: and it was so uh it was so cool. Yeah,

1143
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was and so I just

1144
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 2: I wanted to call you, call you back and chat

1145
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: with you about it. What's your what's your name by

1146
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: the way, Jonah Jonah?

1147
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I was the last guy on the Camel

1148
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: stage and you said that we just only had time

1149
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: for like one or two more, but like I overstayed

1150
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: my welcome. But I read a note out to the

1151
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: cloud about a letter that I wrote to my mother

1152
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: that past when I was seventeen mm hmm, and no

1153
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: one had ever heard that note before, so it was

1154
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: weirdly freeing reading old stage because it's just a bunch

1155
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: of strangers. I see why people call into this show.

1156
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 3: It's just just being able to put it out there

1157
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: but not having anyone be able to come back to you,

1158
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 3: your anonymity. It is just so nice.

1159
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. Yeah, I remember, Yeah, when you

1160
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: came on stage and you read that letter, it was, uh,

1161
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't I. I well, I first of all, I

1162
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: really appreciate the vulnerability that requires to do that, and

1163
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: I just I thought it was so uh it was

1164
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: just really cool, like watching you have the vulnerability to

1165
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: do that, and then like really feeling the crowd like

1166
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: all it was like this fucking like like like group

1167
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 2: therapy moments where everyone was like on board and and

1168
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: in the room and it was no, it was it

1169
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: was a really cool moment. That was one of my

1170
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: favorite Well yeah, watching you uh read that letter was

1171
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: one of my favorite moments of that whole tour.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great to hear, man, It feel amazing doing it.

1173
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: Because we went from such a good you do an

1174
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: amazing comedy show by the way, we went from such

1175
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: a good, good bit of stand up and stuff and

1176
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: two amazing stories before me. So then I spoke a

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01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 3: little bit beforehand and just said, if you want me

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01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: to read out this letter, And then suddenly it felt

1179
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: like you could hear a pin drop in that room,

1180
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: like it was that dead silence for they're just that

1181
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: for five ten minutes that I read that out, and

1182
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: then we were straight back into it afterwards with the

1183
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 3: questions and everyone's back to laughing.

1184
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: It was great.

1185
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 5: It was so nice.

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01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: Mm tell me, yeah, how did the crowd react, like,

1187
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: like when you got off? I always I always wonder

1188
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: this with I always ask people this if I get

1189
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 2: the chance to. If it's like somebody who I've brought

1190
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: up on stage, have you like when you got off stage,

1191
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: did a lot of people come up to you afterwards

1192
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: and talk to you about it?

1193
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: Well?

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01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 3: As I was coming off stage, it was like one

1195
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: of high fiving and people dapped me up and stuff.

1196
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: But afterwards when we were queuing up to see you, well,

1197
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: I was near the front, but a couple of people

1198
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: caught me on the way as as I was coming

1199
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: up to you, and they would just say love to

1200
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: say they loved hearing the story, and it's just anyone.

1201
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: There was one guy that I remember that he said

1202
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: he related to it quite a bit because he had

1203
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: a friend that had passed away and he was just

1204
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: asking like, how did I move on from the death

1205
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: and what's the best approach I did to get away

1206
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: from it. So it's great to hear different perspectives some stuff,

1207
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: because obviously I lost my mother not young, but not

1208
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: terribly young at seventeen, but to have it like that,

1209
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 3: especially since I was in I was very fortunate to

1210
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: grow up in what I would call a very secure household,

1211
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: to then have that ripped away from me, especially since

1212
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: it was a sudden death, there was no cause leading

1213
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: up to it. Just having to deal with that on

1214
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: pretty much on my own. It feels like because I

1215
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: have three older brothers and a father, so we're an

1216
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 3: all boys household now, but they have their girlfriends or wives,

1217
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: and as much as I could go to them for

1218
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: support at being seventeen, it's hard to be a hormonious

1219
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,959
Speaker 3: teenager and then reaching out to people because I don't

1220
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: think i'd ever really done that by any point, especially

1221
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: since during that time I started using drugs a little bit,

1222
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: so I started to latch onto that a little bit more.

1223
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: And it was just trying to be able to get it.

1224
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: Was trying to stop doing the drugs whilst also trying

1225
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: to mourn my mother in a proper way rather than

1226
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: getting high, just to be able to get through it.

1227
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: What I'm that guy who asked you for advice? What

1228
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: did you say to him?

1229
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 3: I just said, as much as I've just talked about,

1230
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 3: like hard to reach out, it is just surrounding your.

1231
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: Self and people.

1232
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the feeling of being alone and being lonely. Being

1233
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: alone is when you're in a room by yourself and

1234
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: then feeling lonely. You can be in a crowd of

1235
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 3: people feeling lonely. If you're able to sit in a

1236
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: crowd of people and just interact with one or two

1237
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: of them, then it just makes you feel so much better.

1238
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: Like during that time, I was able to just reach

1239
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: out to the closest people I knew and ignore the

1240
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: ones that are a bit further out, and those are

1241
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: the ones that really helped me. I'd say my friends

1242
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: helped you more than my family, not anything against them.

1243
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 3: It's just more I didn't choose to reach out to

1244
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: my family at that time, and my friends are the

1245
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 3: ones I kept your knocked down.

1246
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's just the fucking the meaning of life.

1247
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 2: I think, how are you doing now?

1248
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 4: Man? What do you?

1249
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: What do you? What are you been up to? I'm

1250
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: trying to remember, because I'm sure I asked you about like,

1251
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: like what's going on in your life nowadays? Are like

1252
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: what you're studying or working on or anything like that.

1253
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 3: I just I kind of briefly rushed past it when

1254
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: you asked me beforehand. I'm an apprentice now, it's four

1255
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: years since her death, and I just work for a company.

1256
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: I work on roads, just doing analytics of them, and

1257
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a career and data science. So

1258
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: it was looking up and I just hope that my

1259
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: mum would be happy with where I am. But speaking

1260
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 3: of we've actually got a charity event for her coming up,

1261
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: so it's just looking forward towards that because it would

1262
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: have been her sixtieth birthday this month.

1263
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: You have what's the charity event?

1264
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 4: We're doing an event with her, any of her friends

1265
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 4: that wants to come along, or friends or friends and

1266
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 4: we're trying to just raise money for the British Art

1267
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: Foundation because that's she died of a cardiac arrest and

1268
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 4: it's just a nice little thing to do to get

1269
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 4: people together.

1270
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: Really, what is the you said the British Do you

1271
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: say art Foundation or Art Foundation Heart Heart? What kind

1272
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: of what are you guys doing for the event.

1273
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: It's just like a little meet up, doing some quizzes,

1274
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: eating food, just chatting to people. Probably a lot of

1275
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: people that I wouldn't have seen in fucking forever because

1276
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: it's mum's friends.

1277
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: How is your like social life and everything? Are you like,

1278
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: like you said that your friends helped you out the most?

1279
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: Are you still hanging out with those folks a lot?

1280
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely so. I kind of have like

1281
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: my closest friends and if you're my closest friends for

1282
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 3: years now, probably nearly coming on a decade or so,

1283
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: and they've just always been there for freaking thin They're

1284
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: the ones are always gonna help even when I wouldn't

1285
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: ask for any help, they'd just be the ones to

1286
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: be able to check up on me. Like you said,

1287
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 3: it's the meaning of life interaction with people, even if

1288
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 3: you don't want it. It's what's going to get you

1289
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: through a day, isn't it?

1290
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1291
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because that's how we I mean, yeah, that's

1292
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: how we. Like we used to live in tribes and ship.

1293
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I mean absolutely, Man, what what sort

1294
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 3: of tribe would you want to live in?

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: What sort of tribe would I want to live in?

1296
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: Probably one that does cannibalism as uh as a as

1297
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: like a religious ritual, because you know, I've always wanted

1298
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: to uh eat human flesh, and this would give me

1299
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: an excuse to do it.

1300
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you think it wouldst like?

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01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: I think I actually think human flesh would taste I

1302
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: mean probably good, right, I mean, like all, you could

1303
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: take any meat. Really, you could take like the meat

1304
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: of any living thing and grill it or fry it

1305
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: and put sauce on it, and it'll taste good. Like

1306
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: fried human with barbecue sauce would probably be delicious.

1307
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: See when you say that, that sounds pretty good, But

1308
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 3: I much just something like a snake would not taste good.

1309
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 3: Gamey as fuck, wouldn't it?

1310
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? It would probably be gaming. But again, but again,

1311
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: if you fried it and you you fucking cauliflower, you

1312
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: fry it and put it in barbecue sauce. It tastes great.

1313
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 3: Sure, you fight anything put in bob sauce will be great.

1314
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: Imagine you're you're you're in England. How about a human

1315
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: and chips? That could be good.

1316
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 3: Now, now now you're putting putting a good meal together.

1317
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: That would be good. That would be good eating a

1318
01:10:49,720 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: guy with fries. Probably. I mean if you, uh, if

1319
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: you gave me fried human and you told me it

1320
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: was like chicky chicken, Yeah, if you told me it

1321
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: was chicken, I'd probably be like, this is pretty good.

1322
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, how are you?

1323
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: Do you feel good about life these days?

1324
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good. I'm very positive about life recently.

1325
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: I think it's just because I'm out the hit part

1326
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 3: of it. So yeah, I mean I've only just done

1327
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 3: twenty one, so it's probably only gonna get worse there.

1328
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, well you're a fucking I don't know.

1329
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: I just remember when you came on the stage, like,

1330
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: I just I really liked I this sound. This is

1331
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: like a pop word. But I'm gonna says, yeah, I

1332
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: liked your aura, I liked your vibe. You had it.

1333
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 2: I could sense I really do, I really feel like you.

1334
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: You have whatever the thing is that is required to

1335
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: get through life without going insane. I know that is

1336
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: a observation that I have made really not knowing you

1337
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: at all, uh zero percent. But if if just out

1338
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: of an impression of the amount of what if you

1339
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 2: forced me at gunpoint to come up with an impression

1340
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: of you from the brief amount of time we spent together,

1341
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,440
Speaker 2: that was That was my impression.

1342
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 3: Oh the thanks man, that was great.

1343
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: That I did not expect to bring me up.

1344
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: But it was. Again, it was such a great moment.

1345
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: And it was because who else was on that show.

1346
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: We had that girl who talked about how she just

1347
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: had her first threesome. Yeah, yeah, she had. She like

1348
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 2: took an uber from an orgy to come to the show.

1349
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: Living the life.

1350
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: And then uh oh, the guy who uh.

1351
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 3: Couldn't move out of his parents house.

1352
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.

1353
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: He could have done it.

1354
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: That was such a fucking great show. I had had

1355
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: an awesome time doing that, such.

1356
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 5: A good time.

1357
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: What's your name again?

1358
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: Man?

1359
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: Jonah?

1360
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: Jonah Jonah. I'm glad this is cool. I'm glad we

1361
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: get to talk. I'm glad we got to talk. I

1362
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: was like being able to be able to talk to

1363
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: folks who I met on on uh you know, as

1364
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: funny is I At the shows, I'll like meet people

1365
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, ship, we talked on the phone,

1366
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: and now I'm on the phone with you and I'm like,

1367
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: oh ship, we talked at the show.

1368
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's great. It's great to have to act

1369
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: to stream, for one, because it's kind of hard to

1370
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 3: line up the times UK and work and stuff sometimes.

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01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: Jonah, is there anything else gonna say to the people

1372
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go?

1373
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: If life does really seem shipped some people? Well, you

1374
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: can always drive yourself out of it. You just have

1375
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: to be happy in the present as much as you can.

1376
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: Just know that eventually you'll be able to get out

1377
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: of it.

1378
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: Joanah, keep on rocking in the free world? Is England free?

1379
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: Or you guys? Can you guys do stuff? You just

1380
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: do it? Everything done.

1381
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 3: Look into a politics? Done done done, look into a politics.

1382
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: But I really I don't I'm not bullshitting I I

1383
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: don't want it to be like always says, because he's like,

1384
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: I don't say that to everyone. And if you listen

1385
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: to the show, you know I don't say that to everyone.

1386
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: There are definitely people who hang up the phone after

1387
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: I'm talking to them, and I'm like, I'm a little uh,

1388
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if they're going

1389
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: to be okay. But there's a lot of people who

1390
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: I hang up the phone. I'm like, you're gonna be fine.

1391
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: They have resilience. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Hello, Hello, Hey, Hey,

1392
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: what's up?

1393
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 5: Oh god, damn, I can't believe my mom.

1394
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: How's it going?

1395
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 5: Good? Good? Yeah? You know, nothing better than talking to

1396
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 5: a man on a guest to shoot off the internet.

1397
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so many things better. Have you ever? Have

1398
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: you ever tried heroin? I bet heroin feels awesome. A

1399
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: fancy restaurant, you could have sex, you could go to Peru.

1400
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. I mean, this is good.

1401
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm enjoying that we're having a conversation, but I

1402
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it's I don't know if there's nothing better.

1403
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: Maybe you know what, Maybe you're right, Maybe there's nothing

1404
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: better than connecting with people.

1405
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I was studying before this, and you know,

1406
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 5: this is definitely better than studying.

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 2: What do you studying for?

1408
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna give you a brief history of my

1409
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 5: life story. I guess I went to a technical college

1410
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 5: to become a mechanic. That took two years, and then

1411
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 5: I worked as a mechanic for two years, and then

1412
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 5: it didn't pay as much as I hoped it would.

1413
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 5: So I found this other job at a manufacturing company

1414
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 5: and that pays more. But if I want to advance

1415
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 5: my career there, I to get a degree in what's

1416
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 5: it called robotics. So that's what I'm trying to pursuing

1417
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 5: right now, studying robotics.

1418
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: That's great, that's awesome. You're gonna because that's gonna be useful.

1419
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: How old are you?

1420
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 5: Twenty six?

1421
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: Oh, twenty six? Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, it's gonna be

1422
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: useful because when when we're in our fifties, oh my fuck,

1423
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 2: thank god, man, oh my god, we're gonna be like

1424
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to create very lifelike human robots.

1425
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 2: Uh Ai. Imagine what AI is gonna be like in

1426
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: like twenty five fucking years. Man, It's gonna be super advanced.

1427
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna put it into lifelike bodies, and we're not

1428
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 2: gonna be able to We're gonna be living among robots,

1429
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 2: and so you'll probably have a job. Yeah, you'll probably

1430
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: have a job.

1431
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 5: I feel like you said, the years are gonna end

1432
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 5: up like those people in Wally they just sitting there

1433
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 5: see the whole time.

1434
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:43,480
Speaker 2: We're a little bit like that already.

1435
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 5: We're a little bit I mean, yeah, we are. If

1436
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 5: you think about it, we can have everything that ever

1437
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:50,839
Speaker 5: to us.

1438
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 2: I was watching I saw some ship on Twitter. Uh

1439
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: of like Mark Mark Zuckerberg was talking about how his

1440
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: whole thing are is like these these ar glasses and

1441
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: everyone's going to be wearing these glasses that are going

1442
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: to project the digital world into the real world via

1443
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: al No, it wouldn't what do you mean that would

1444
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: be cool? That would be horrible. You think that would

1445
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: be cool? Do you think that would be cool?

1446
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, it would help me dramatically with working out

1447
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,440
Speaker 5: because instead of lifting you know, a weaight to imagine

1448
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 5: like I can imagine myself lifting a car off a

1449
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 5: family of four. I've been like, I lift the ship.

1450
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Mark, Marcus? Marco Marcos Marcos, I'm Marcus.

1451
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what's going on in my brain

1452
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: right now, is okay? I was so I was about

1453
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: to go on a rant about how I think. When

1454
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: I heard him say that, I was like, I think

1455
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: there's some form of a revolution going on, like in

1456
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: where like I think people are slowly even young people.

1457
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: This might just be an optimistic anecdote, but I was

1458
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 2: feeling optimistic, and I was like, I think young people

1459
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 2: and people around the world are waking up a little

1460
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: bit to how much technology is negatively impacting a lot

1461
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 2: of aspects of their life and making active efforts to

1462
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:44,839
Speaker 2: cut down. And I'm making active efforts to reject forms

1463
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 2: of technology that are getting slowly more and more invasive

1464
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: and requiring you to wear your phone on your wrist

1465
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 2: or on your eyes. And I was really feeling confident

1466
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 2: about that optimistic point of view. And then you immediately

1467
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: said that Mark Zuckerberg's goggles would be cool, and I

1468
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm wrong, I'm wrong, We're all fucked whatever.

1469
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go wear them. I'm gonna wear them right now,

1470
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: and we're all getting the chips in our head. I'm

1471
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: fucking wrong. I was trying to be optimistic. I really

1472
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: thought that we were in some kind of like I really,

1473
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, That's what I was trying to be optimistic,

1474
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: and I'm like, we're in some kind of renaissance thing

1475
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 2: where people are going to reject a lot of this ship.

1476
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's the I think I

1477
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 2: might just be being naively optimistic and it's going to

1478
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: be embraced whether we fucking like it or not, just

1479
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: like you know, phones.

1480
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 5: I mean, the only time will tell, to be honest.

1481
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: But people don't. Do people really want to fucking wear

1482
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: this shit?

1483
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: Ay?

1484
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: First of all, he I think we're getting to a

1485
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: point economically where like, who's gonna be able to afford

1486
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 2: this sport? Unless yeah, well unless unless if it starts

1487
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: getting because like everyone has a phone, like you could

1488
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: be you know, people people living on the streets have phones.

1489
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: Like everyone has a phone. If the technology becomes X

1490
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: right now it's not it's like the Vision pro whatever

1491
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: the fuck was thirty five hundred dollars. But if it

1492
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: becomes accessible to the point where you know, everyone can

1493
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: just get have everyone just has these goggles in the

1494
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: way that everyone has the phone, then maybe, But right now,

1495
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: I think people have been trying to get folks to

1496
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 2: wear shit on their heads for a while and it

1497
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: hasn't caught on to the mainstream. Hopefully it hasn't cut

1498
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: onto the mainstream because we have something innately in our

1499
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: biology that makes us not want to fucking do that.

1500
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: But who Mark Zuckerberg is in his laboratory figuring out

1501
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: what that thing is in our biology that makes us

1502
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 2: not want to do that, and he's figuring out how

1503
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: to fucking shatter that ship and make it say that.

1504
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: We're all wearing this stuff.

1505
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 5: The closest that we have to that right now we

1506
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 5: are VR headsets.

1507
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but like, but the v VR headsets

1508
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: have not achieved mainstream adoption.

1509
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 5: Oh no, they have. They have not.

1510
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: In the way that phones are and I, I mean

1511
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: AI has achieved mainstream adoption. You know, my dad is

1512
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: using it and everyone's using it. But I don't think

1513
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: that we're gonna be I don't know when we're gonna

1514
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 2: be wearing shit. I don't know if we ever will

1515
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 2: be wearing shit. I hate that. I fucking I hate

1516
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: the Apple Watch, I and the fit Bit. It's like,

1517
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to people who wear that shit. I

1518
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: don't get it. Why would you want your phone like

1519
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: your like It's like it takes such little there's such

1520
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: little barrier between your phone and your face already, it's

1521
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 2: like you have to pull it out of your pocket.

1522
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: It's like having the watch, like removing even that barrier

1523
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: is fucking crazy to me. Where it's like your phone

1524
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: is just always it's not even in your pocket anyways,

1525
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: it's a glance away. It's weird. I don't get I

1526
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 2: don't people, I don't. I don't like it. I don't

1527
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: like it. Do you have an Apple Watch? Do you

1528
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: have that ship?

1529
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 5: I haven't used a Apple product since the first iPad.

1530
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: Also, it's gonna be really funny. It's gonna be really

1531
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: funny because one day I'm gonna be doing like an

1532
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: ad read for a fucking Apple Watch or some shit

1533
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: like that, and I'll be like, you know what, it

1534
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: was actually pretty cool, But uh, you don't use Apple.

1535
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: What do you use?

1536
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: Are you like a Macintize Sam your Samsung guy? Yeah,

1537
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying I meant you're Samsung guy. Okay, how's that

1538
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 2: going for you?

1539
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 5: I like it? Yeah, I really like it. It's you know,

1540
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 5: the features on the phones are needed to use, and

1541
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 5: that's that's what really matters. Right, If.

1542
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: You're an Apple person and you try to use like

1543
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: an Android you'll be like, this is disgusting, this is

1544
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: not It might as well be like in Chinese the

1545
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: whole phone, because it's just it's different. Yeah, I mean,

1546
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: do you get that feeling when you use the iPhone?

1547
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 5: When I use an iPhone. I don't know if you

1548
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 5: notice about Samsung, but you know how they have the

1549
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 5: back button.

1550
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Samsung, so.

1551
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 5: I don't know on the on the Samsung, there's a

1552
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 5: bag button to go back to the previous page or

1553
01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 5: whatever that you were on, and I hate that iPhones

1554
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 5: don't have that. We have to look for like an

1555
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 5: arrow on the butt on the on the screen to

1556
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 5: go back to my previous page or whatever.

1557
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: We have a well, we have a little bit more.

1558
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: We have a sophisticated system where you gently swipe up

1559
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 2: a little bit and then you go back and it'll

1560
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: just take you back to like whatever app you were

1561
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: using before, like the little carousel ship. Ah, But you

1562
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: wouldn't know because you've got a Samsung.

1563
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1564
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's been a while since I've used

1565
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 5: an Apple product.

1566
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: I do love Apple. I like there's ship It is weird,

1567
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 2: how I like, Yeah, it's fucked up to think about

1568
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: how many tools I have in my life that uh

1569
01:25:52,200 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: didn't exist for the entirety of history. It's like, it's

1570
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 2: very it's very trippy to think about when you when

1571
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: you were when you really think about like the fuck

1572
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 2: that I feel all this, Like everyone having a phone

1573
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: is like not even twenty years old. It's like like

1574
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight maybe or seven. It's yeah, people

1575
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 2: like I remember my parents were like print out map

1576
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: quest or like we had Yeah, I remember that, and

1577
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 2: people lived like that. How did like, like, how do

1578
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 2: you even how do you like meet up with people

1579
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: in like the nineties? How do people do that?

1580
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 5: I think it's crazy, Like what if you just went

1581
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 5: to Walmart and then your friends spontaneously called you up

1582
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 5: and told you, hey, me meet me at this new

1583
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 5: restaurant that this that just opened up. But you have

1584
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 5: no idea how to fuck to get there.

1585
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 2: You have no idea the fuck to get there.

1586
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 5: You have no fault to look up how you know

1587
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 5: the directions.

1588
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how they fucking did it, but they

1589
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: did it. And it's not like you know, the people

1590
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: who did that, they're not like eighty years old, they're

1591
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: like in their forties. Yeah, I I it's weird not

1592
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: remembering what that was like or not really because I

1593
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: had a When did I get a cell phone? I

1594
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 2: got a cell phone in two thousand. I got an

1595
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 2: iPhone in two thousand and eight, and I was like ten, Yeah,

1596
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: it was ten when I got a kN iPhone, ten

1597
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: or eleven fucking there was this middle gear solid game

1598
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: on it, and there was.

1599
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: And there was Jones.

1600
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, I played all sorts of those

1601
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 2: mobile games. Marco's Yeah, how you doing, good, good, good good? Yeah, Okay,

1602
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: before we go, are you optimistic about the future of society.

1603
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to get too political, but as long

1604
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 5: as capitalism is still a thing in this world, I'm

1605
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:13,520
Speaker 5: not optimistic.

1606
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1607
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Probably, probably, probably, But hey, we can always we can

1608
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: always look at we can always look at funny pictures

1609
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 2: on the computer.

1610
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can. We can always cope, we.

1611
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Can always go there. Well, here's here's here's Here's an

1612
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: optimistic framing is if the world goes to ship, there

1613
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: will always be some form of cope that we'll have

1614
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: to look forward to. You know, a candy bar you found.

1615
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 5: On the ground, or yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that.

1616
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 5: I can see that.

1617
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so will either have prosperity to look forward

1618
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 2: to or cope to look forward to. Marcus, is there

1619
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: anything else you want to say to the people of

1620
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?

1621
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 5: You know, unlike the other guy actually did have something

1622
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 5: in mind to say when you ask me this question. Ahead,

1623
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 5: for the people that have trouble motivating themselves to work out,

1624
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 5: give yourself a goal like run the marathon or enter

1625
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 5: in the weight difting competition. Essentially, that'll have you, you know,

1626
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 5: work towards something instead of going to the gym.

1627
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Goalless continue to get shredded. I'm gonna assume you're shredded.

1628
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm imagining you. I'm imagining what you look like. I'm

1629
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: I am.

1630
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 5: I am not shredded at all. I'm five nine and

1631
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 5: I weighed two hundred forty pounds.

1632
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: And what do you squat?

1633
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 5: Fuck? I don't know how much I squat. I mean,

1634
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,759
Speaker 5: I'm trying to your you know, training for a marathon.

1635
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh wait, hold on the last guy. Okay, remember on

1636
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 2: the last podcast that guy talked to I don't know

1637
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 2: if you listened to the podcast, but okay, on the

1638
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: last episode, the guy there was a there was a

1639
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: caller who called it and he said, he said it

1640
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 2: was like five eight and one hundred and forty five pounds,

1641
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 2: and he said he squatted five hundred and forty pounds.

1642
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember that you were were there for that? No?

1643
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 5: I was not.

1644
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Uh, he he emailed me. He emailed me.

1645
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,879
Speaker 5: What's the average weights that someone can squat?

1646
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 2: Okay? He email? Hold On, he emailed me, and he

1647
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: sent me a video, and I'm gonna watch it right now.

1648
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: I haven't watched this video. What's the average squad? Okay?

1649
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Hold on? Let me watch this video. Let me see

1650
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 2: if this is real. Okay, he's doing Okay, that's not

1651
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 2: a squat. Okay, he's not doing. This guy's lying. He's

1652
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 2: not doing squat.

1653
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: He is.

1654
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: What's forty five times for?

1655
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 5: What is.

1656
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: No? Forty five times eight? What's forty five times eight?

1657
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Forty five times eight? Let's see three hundred and sixty

1658
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 2: hold on?

1659
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 5: This guy?

1660
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 2: Is this video? This dude is he's leg pressing. He's

1661
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 2: not squatting. He's leg pressing. Uh, three hundred and sixty pounds?

1662
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 2: Why did he tell me a lot? It's a lot,

1663
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 2: you know, by the way, I'm gonna say it's a lot.

1664
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: He is.

1665
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: He is.

1666
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: Leg pressing a lot. So leg press three hundred and

1667
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: sixty pounds is a lot. But I don't know why

1668
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: he lied and said that he's squats five hundred and

1669
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 2: forty pounds.

1670
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why either.

1671
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why he said. But look, look, Mike,

1672
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 2: I think his name is Mike. And then why did

1673
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: he send me a video of him not doing the

1674
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: thing he said he was doing? Okay, well, look whatever.

1675
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:43,879
Speaker 2: The leg pressing three hundred and sixty pounds is impressive,

1676
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: but just so, just say that, Mike, Why you don't

1677
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 2: You don't have to make up things. Just say what

1678
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 2: the real thing is. And it's impressive too.

1679
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 5: Maybe because he wanted to be him.

1680
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 2: He wanted to be he already is him. Everyone everyone

1681
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: is already selves, I guess Marcos. Yeah, I'll see you

1682
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 2: around the universe.

1683
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 5: All right, let's see you around.

1684
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Marcos.

1685
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,440
Speaker 5: Run the marathon, Gecko.

1686
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna do that. I don't like running.

1687
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: I like I like lifting weights. Lifting weights is fun.

1688
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: I like to lift weights, and I like to walk.

1689
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't like to run. I'm not a runner. Folks,

1690
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the therapy Gecko podcast. What

1691
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 2: an honor, what a joy it is to be alive

1692
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: and be a gecko and talk to people. This was

1693
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: a good episode. We talked to This is a good episode.

1694
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: I like the formats that we're getting lately, where it's like,

1695
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: let's do one long deep dive thing and then one

1696
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 2: call where we just talk about bullshit. It's fun. I'm

1697
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: enjoying doing this. I hope you're enjoying listening to it.

1698
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for entertaining the podcast. Tell your friends, tell your lovers,

1699
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 2: and I'll get you around. I'll get you later. I

1700
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 2: don't like that. I don't like that We're gonna keep

1701
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: doing podcasts. I'm trying like I'm trying to make them

1702
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: longer when I can. I used to just upload one hour,

1703
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 2: and now I'm just trying to make them a little longer.

1704
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and see you around the universe. Go

1705
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 2: go do something else with your life. Okay, bye, thank you,

1706
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Week it goes on the line

1707
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: taking your phone calls every night every week and goes

1708
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 2: to just teaching you loud your line

1709
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:46,440
Speaker 1: An expert