WEBVTT - Jim Acosta & Sam Wang 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.680 today's best minds. And President Trump's approval rating among gen 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.480 Z voters has fallen to a new low of twenty 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:20.119 five percent, with sixty seven percent disapproving, according to the 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:26.760 Latest Economist. Yougo falling, congratulations, Donald, We have such a 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:31.040 great show for you today. The Jim Acostas Show's own 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.320 Jim Acosta stops by to talk Pam Bondy taking the 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.720 stand to defend her indefensible handling of the Epstein files. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.400 Ben we'll talk to Princeton Samwang about his run for 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.200 Congress in New Jersey's twelfth district. But first we have. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:52.199 The news Somalia Gallup will no longer measure presidential approval 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.840 after eighty eight years. What do you think could have 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.000 spurred this decision? 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:01.400 Is Trump sending Gallup to Gitmo? We need to know more. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.920 Probably not. The Gallup approval rating has for decades been 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.520 among the top barometers cited by media outlets measuring public 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.600 opinion of the president's performance. Trump has seen his ratings 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.919 slip from the agency, peaking at forty seven percent last February, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:24.560 dipping to lower than thirty seven percent in December those 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.440 watching at home, that is ten percentage points. The change 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.680 is part of a broader, ongoing effort to align all 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:39.560 of Gallup's public work with its mission, which is who Knows. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.759 Asked by The Hill if Gallup had received any feedback 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.160 from Donald Trump's White House and if they were in 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:51.240 fact being held hostage right now, the Gallop bravely said, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:57.480 this is a strategic, solid shift based solely on we 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.440 are not being held hostage right now by the Trump administration, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.720 So believe them, don't believe them? Who knows? Former President 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.160 John F. Kennedy experienced some of the highest average ratings 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:14.399 that Gallup had seventy one percent in January nineteen sixty one. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.959 Eisenhower too super popular, more popular than Donald Trump. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.679 Yeah, fun stuff. Really great week or so for journalism 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.840 in the last week. So in other news of where optimism, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.800 where our justice keeps holding up is in these grand 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.120 jury indictments and a grand jury declined to indict Democratic 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.880 lawmakers who urged service members to disobey legal Trump orders. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.480 This included a bunch of senators, including Mark Kelly, who, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.480 Pete Higsetth, decided to punish. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.840 So a bunch of former service members who were in 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:52.000 Congress and in the Senate made an advertisement together and 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.359 in the video with a ninety second video clip, they said, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.720 if you are ordered to do something illegal, you don't 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.120 have to do it. This would seem, in a sane world, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:09.239 to be not only not illegal, but just normal common sense. Right, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.799 somebody tells you to do something illegal, don't do it. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.520 As someone who thinks that that's pretty good advice, military 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.920 or not military, the whole idea that this would be 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.560 illegal is insane. Here's what happened. Trump got really mad. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.760 The fact that Trump identifies this stuff as a being 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.320 about him is almost a bigger tell. Like during the 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.760 super Bowl, Trump was offended because Bad Bonnie talked about 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.480 how hate was bad, and Trump was like, hey, hey hate, 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:43.200 that's me. And with this, it's like illegal orders, but 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.200 I might want to do something illegal. So I think 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.840 it's really important just to pull back and see that tel. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.280 But it's also important to remember that traditionally, grand juries 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.440 have been so famous for their interest in indicting that 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.040 there is that saying that you could find a grand 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.200 jury that would indict a ham sandwich clearly, not because 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.680 Senator Slockin, Senator Kelly and a bunch of members of 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.080 Congress were not indicted in the district of Columbia, but 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.680 also because the first Amendment. I don't know if you 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.000 know about this, it's not the one the Republicans love. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.719 That's the second one, that's the guns. The first one 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.920 actually says that you can do videos like this because 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.560 they are protected under the free speech clause of the Constitution. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.880 I thought it was pretty interesting the analysis that senior 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.440 officials would not take this up, but you know who 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.520 would take it up. Judge Box of Wine. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.960 Yeah, Judge Box of Wine. And one of the things 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.880 I enjoy about her is that she is just about 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.320 as bad a prosecutor as you would think. It turns 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:50.400 out that being good on Fox News does not actually 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.239 make you good at the law. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.200 So Molly, you know, it is a basically like a 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.000 red moon. It's so rare that I praise the strategy 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.000 democratic leadership. I think this is quite smart that the 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.360 House Democrats are going to do a ton of anti 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.640 teriff votes to make it so that this albatross is 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.800 tied to the House members of the Republican sides neck. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:18.640 Yeah, so Democrats in Congress, and I really believe this. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.800 I think they're doing good stuff in there, even though 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.800 they don't have the majority, though they only have a 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.880 one seat minority. So here's what happened. The White House 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:31.479 had wanted a rule put in with the rules that 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.200 would say that like they couldn't do more questions or 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.039 votes on tariffs. Remember, the White House is on the 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.119 back foot on tariffs. And here's why the Supreme Court 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.599 is looking at this big tariff case that might take 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.320 away Trump's emergency powers. Tariffs are not popular. We just 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.800 saw this week some news that tariffs cost approximately one 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.360 thousand dollars of family, that they're making things more expensive, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.160 they're inflationary, which we've talked about endlessly. So this administration 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.120 is on the back foot on the tariffs. Republicans are 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.479 nine months from a midterm. They have a very unpopular president, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.960 and this is an opportunity for them. And one of 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.200 the things that I want you to think about is 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.680 like you will see Republicans behaving bravely at this moment. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.520 That is not because they are brave. Do you know 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.400 why that is? It is because they can read polls 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.240 and they want to keep their jobs. So you're going 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.960 to see votes on tariffs. You're going to see them 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.680 break with Trump. You're going to see this stuff, and 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.760 you're going to see it because these Republicans want to 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.240 keep their jobs and they're worried about losing their jobs. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.240 And there's no reason to believe that these people have 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.680 had a change of heart, and there's every reason to 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:46.240 believe that this is just craven opportunism. So what's going 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.840 to happen now is we're going to have votes and 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.880 members of Congress are going to stand up to this, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.800 and Trump may lose on some of these votes, though 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.440 I think ultimately the Supreme Court will have the power 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.359 they want to block the tariffs. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.239 So a judge has dismissed for the third time this year, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.440 the DOJ's lawsuit seeking Michigan's voter role data. I wonder 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.440 why the dog keeps going after this voter world data. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.480 Yeah, because Donald Trump wants to fix the midterms and 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.560 this is the only way he thinks he could do it. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.000 Thank god that he doesn't have the votes and the 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.680 Save Act also we're seeing he doesn't have the votes 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.720 when it comes to Save Act, which is good. He 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.640 knows he's unpopular. He knows it's nine months to the midterms, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.480 he knows he's going to get impeaged, and he wants 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.560 to do anything he can to prevent it. So we're 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.000 going to see a lot more of this kind of 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.760 fuckorate when it comes to elections and what Democrats need 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.200 to do, if they need to stand up for our 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:54.400 elections and for the rule of flow. Jim Acosta is 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.920 the author of The Substack, The Jim Acosta Show, and 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:01.520 the author of the New York Times' bestseller Enemy of 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:06.160 the People, A Dangerous Time to Tell the Truth in America. Welcome, Welcome, 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:07.440 Jim Acosta. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.720 Hi, Mollie, Hi, I'm at the airport. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:18.120 Coming to me from la where he is the consummate professional. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.760 The seventh level of Dante's Inferno, recording to you live. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.559 That's right. I don't know if you saw that. Pam 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.239 Bondy is Oh. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.040 My god, she is not happy. What the hell? 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.360 How dare you? How dare you watch this hearing and 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.960 criticize President Trump discuss. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.600 I know, the greatest president of all time. I don't 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.440 know that this may be too low browber of a 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.720 reference for you, but she reminds me of Ricky Bobby's 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.280 wife from Talladega Knights. You know when she says, I'm 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.600 a racer's wife, I don't work, you know, that's what 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.640 she reminds me of. I apologize for the lowbrow reference, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.760 but that is what I hear every time she opens 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.960 her mouth. What a shameful performance just to get serious 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.600 for a moment, like the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's stand up. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:01.880 She won't look at them. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.160 She won't look at them. They won't meet with them. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.280 The Justice Department has not met with these survivors and 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.199 victims and their families. It's appalling. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.320 So let's talk about this. Representative Ji Paul. You know, 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.720 congressional hearings are so interesting because a lot of times 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.000 there's just a lot of grandstanding, but occasionally there's really 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:26.000 effective questioning. So Representative Jipaul to the survivors in the room, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.240 if you're willing, please stand, and if you're willing, please 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.680 raise your hand. If you have not been able to 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.960 meet with the DOJ. Please note for the record that 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.320 every single survivor has raised their hands. So what do 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:41.079 you think about that? 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.560 How much worse is this going to get? How many 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.319 more indignities are they going to have to suffer through 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.520 these survivors and these victims. I know we've said this, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.080 we've stipulated this, that shamelessness is their superpower, but my god, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.640 this is like next level Jedi master shamelessness. I mean, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.800 it's just unreal to me. The only way to do 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.080 this is to keep the pressure on. When Rocanna went 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.640 to the floor of the house and read those names 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.760 out loud, that felt like, for a moment, the beginning 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.559 of some sort of light at the end of the tunnel, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.920 some ray of hope that came into all of this, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.160 and I just think that, you know, they're just going 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.559 to have to keep charging forward. My sense of it 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.040 is is that at some point something the damn is 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.079 going to break. And when I saw you know, the 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.560 FA restrictions going up Overell Passo this morning, I was like, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.160 are we going to def con you know one when 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.120 it comes to Trump and the Epstein files. Is that 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.840 what's happening here? The final chapters of this have not 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.160 been written, And it just seems to me like when 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.920 Howard Lutnik is like, oh, yeah, I brought my family. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.120 I brought my four kids and the nannies to Epstein Island, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.160 How has he not been fired? How is he still there? 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.280 Howard Lutnik has a really interesting dejectory. We see him 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:56.080 on a podcast say that he went to Epstein's house 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.160 in two thousand and four, thought Epstein was a creep, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.280 didn't want anything to do with him. Then we hear 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.760 that's actually a lie. He's in the files endlessly. He 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:10.959 did an LLC with Ebstein. He's got these emails from 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:15.520 his wife to Epstein's assistant saying, we're gonna come. Here 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.240 are the kids. We have four kids, lists their ages, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.439 which if I were taking my kids to the home 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.640 of a sex predator and my friend's kids, I would 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.360 probably not list their I mean, I think listing their 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.040 ages is the least of it. But yeah, okay, And 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.840 then there's this weird email about the nanny. So the 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:42.600 Latnick nanny is going to meet with Jeffrey Epstein. Now 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.719 there is some other nanny talk in other pieces of 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:52.320 the file, emails and such about men getting nanny's from 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.000 Epstein and they're not nanny's for the kids. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.199 Right now, this is like, could it get any worse? Honestly, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.680 and to me, you know, Howard Lutnik, I was looking 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.160 to see is he worth like threety billion dollars or 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.040 something like that. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.760 All these people right now are worth ten brillion dollars 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.880 because they're totally grubbed. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.480 And how many people in Donald Trump's orbit? I mean, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.840 first of all, he's in there tens of thousands of times. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.560 Grump is in there more than a million times. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.120 I heard Scott Galloway say that that Trump is in 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.280 the Epstein files more than Jesus is in the Bible. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.120 I think, is that is that maybe him come up with. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.440 Where Harry Poliner is in the Harry Potter books. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.240 I mean, at some point, so we need to start 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.840 asking the question, Donald Trump, how is it that you 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.320 are in the Epstein files so many times? What the 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.360 hell is going on? When are you going to finally 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.400 offer a full explanation for all of this? And one 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.040 of my friends in the press is going to grill 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.520 his ass on this, I'm sorry, Molly. In any other administration, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.480 and any other administration, I mean, any other timeline, any 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.240 other on Earth one, two, three, and four, he would 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.040 have been crucified over this ship. A president would have 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.560 been crucified over this shit. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.800 Aren't they scared of losing press room access? 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:00.240 Yes? 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.080 But who gives a fuck at this point, Go for 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.760 the gold. It's the goddamn Olympics. Go for the fucking 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.160 White House for Responsor Association gold. And Grill has ass 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.200 on this. When he starts to insult, keep going, and 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.439 the other recorders of the room keep going. How is 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.319 it Howard Lutnik, the Secretary of the Navy, Elon Musk, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.079 Steve Bannon over and over again. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:25.560 Kimball, Musk got girls from Epstein, Grill his ass. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.040 I'm sorry, I just don't get it. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:32.520 If you're a Tesla stockholder, your board has Elon and Kimball, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.720 both of whom have been I mean, like, the thing is, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.760 don't we want in the rest of the world where 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:43.800 people are normal. They are firing people in the Epstein files. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.760 They are right leaving from government. They are talking about 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:53.000 removing the Prime Minister of Britain, not because he was 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.120 in the Epstein files, merely because he hired someone in 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.319 the Epstein files. You know who is in the Epstein files, Donald. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.280 The President, I know, And I just think that maybe 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.960 this is just going to come down to a voter 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.240 revolt in the fall, and that'll be where the accountability starts. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.000 But it just seems to me that I mean, Pam 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.280 Bonnie the performance that she does anybody buy this? Does 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.640 anybody see this as credible? When she gets up there 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.840 and that this Kobookie Theater with Jim Jordan and the 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.720 other Republicans on the can, it's just like that, no 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.520 one's buying this, it's all worship. They're covering this up 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.080 and they're covering his ass. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:36.000 But Pam Bondi only is performing for one person, and 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.360 she is. It's funny because when I was watching her, 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:43.600 I was thinking about Justice bred Kavanaugh. And you'll remember 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.800 that when Justice Fred Kavanaugh got up there, the first day, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.000 he was normal and Trump hated it, and the second 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.760 day he was insane and Trump loved it. And that's 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:59.240 what we're seeing with Bondi is her whole thing is 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.640 that she wants me Trump happy. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.080 Well, and that's that's all well and good, and they 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.440 can hit option to the faux outrage button and put 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.800 on that performance for the audience of one. But I 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.360 still think that these hearings are productive in that we 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.520 are memorializing for all time the lunacy of what they 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.680 are putting this country through. And it just seems to 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.840 me this is creeping up further and further. And I 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.640 know we've all banned. You know, we can't say the 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.360 expression the walls are closing in or you know, this 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:25.560 is it. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.120 Because we did a year four years of it. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.040 And you should be publicly flogged for saying so. But 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.680 there is a there there with the Epstein files in 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.840 Donald Trump, and until the public scratches that itch and 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.200 gets to the bottom of this, his ass is still 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:41.680 in hot water, it seems to me. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.960 But I also think a really important point of this 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.880 story is that, like, you never know what's going to 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.240 come from hearings, and I'm thinking about Cash fatal during 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:56.240 those hearings when he said Jeffrey Epstein never traffied anyone, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.640 unbelievable And I saw that and I thought, how what? 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.440 But it was really important because it showed that Cash 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.160 Patau was lying to protect someone, because the head of 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.320 the FBI getting up there and saying that, you don't 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:16.160 say that unless you're trying to protect someone, and so 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.560 it really does you know it's on the record. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.320 Well, and Molly. The other thing too, is this is 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.960 why Donald Trump surrounds himself with the kinds of people 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.480 who really can't get these kinds of gigs anywhere else. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.720 He puts people in these jobs who know they depend 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.680 on him for five star treatments. They get the private 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.960 cars and the you know, the primetime appearances on Fox 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:38.760 and Handity and so on. They don't get this without 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.440 cowtowing to Donald Trump. And that is why he gets 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.440 away with this, because he surrounded in himself with I mean, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.000 the twenty fifth and that is just completely useless at 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.720 this point, because he has surrounded himself with the kind 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.160 of people who will never invoke the twenty fifth Amendment 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.240 or exercise the twenty fifth Amendment. Their livelihoods, everything that 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.480 they hold dear is because of Donald Trump, and so 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.960 we can't expect them to behave in any sort of 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.200 fashion that you know, we would find normal in any 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.720 other administration. And you know, to me, like Cash Bettel 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.280 saying that that's going to have to go down, that's 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.480 one of the worst lies ever in the presidency of 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.800 Donald Trump first or second administration. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:21.439 It is just shameful, and it is worse just pulling 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.879 back and looking at how unusual all of this is. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.960 This is not how any of it's supposed to work. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.080 And I think this is particularly important is that the 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.560 Epstein files have a number of places where other people 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.640 have been redacted. And one of the things that we've 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.920 heard members of Congress talk about is that there are 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.680 two sets of production. So there are the redactions, the 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.280 dj already got files that were already redacted, and those 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.399 redactants have not been taken away, and those were the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:56.040 Trump Protection redactions. So what we're seeing now are some 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:00.840 other files that they felt were safe enough to release. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:05.359 So I wonder, like when we see stories like yesterday 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.920 there was a story about how Trump warned the chief 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.680 of police yeah in Palm Beach, that Jeffrey Epstein was bad. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.199 And that Gallainne Maxwell was evil, you know all of that. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.159 I'm very suspicious of that story. When I saw that story, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.840 I thought, that's the only story about coming out about 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.120 Donald Trump. What do you think? I mean? 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.160 Yes, and Julie Brown has done some amazing reports. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:33.399 Amazing Yeah, but it's the one file that was released 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.719 that was easy to track down, that wasn't heavily redacted. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.080 But there were there were members of Congress coming out 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.520 of viewing these unredacted files who were, you know, singing 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.200 like a canary, And there were some Republicans who were 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.199 coming out of the look at those viewing sessions, absolutely 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.679 shell shocked. And there was the congresswoman from Vermont. It 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.000 was Blint if I've seen the name Becker ballanced balanced, 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.639 excuse me, and she's, you know, she's being asked by 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.879 reporters about this, and she says that, well, the whole 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.000 lie that Trump told about kicking Jeffrey Epstein out of 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.000 the club is a lie. It's a lie, and so 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.480 he's been lying repeatedly about this over the years. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.600 Yeah, I'm really curious to know what she saw. The 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:20.960 other one, you'll remember, Cynthia Loomis Senator from Wyoming not 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.480 running for reelection, which I think is important to mention, 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.600 says that she now understands after seeing the unredacted files, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.880 what a big deal this all is, which begs the question, 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.479 what did she see? What did any of those people say? 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.399 I know? And why is it that they've released some 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.399 of the files but not all of the files, and 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.760 that some of the files are unredacted for the numbers 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.240 of Congress And I have to say, like, why aren't 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.760 there like career prosecutors going through this stuff and sharpening 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.959 their knives and figuring out that they have some cases 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.080 that can be brought against some real sick people who 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.239 need to be put behind bars. I mean, this is 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.680 not how our Justice department. I mean, you could talk 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:00.560 to all of the wonderful experts that you and I 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.480 talk to Molly all the time on this subject. This 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.320 should be a prosecutorial shopping spree here. You know, like 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.919 you know, you get a conviction, you get a conviction 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.120 that you know, and it's unreal and it's not happening. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.600 Well, if the Trump administration wanted to solve these crimes, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.159 or even anyone else, not even the Trump administration, just 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.919 like members of Congress, wouldn't one of the first people 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.520 you would call to testify be Mornen Kombe, who was 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.520 working on this case. I mean, there are so many 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.520 points in which you see that these victims have really 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.240 nobody cares about the victims. 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.240 It's all a shamp bringing in the Clintons, and the 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.280 Clintons like, well, we'll testify in front of the cameras. 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.240 Oh no, no, no, we don't want that. But they don't 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:43.920 want Donald Trump to be the ghost. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.480 I understand Bill, he's in the photos, he's in the files. Great, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.560 have Bill testify have him testify, have Trump testify, have 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.520 all these men testified. But Hillary never was on the plane. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.360 She was never. I mean, I understand they're obsessed with her, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.720 but like it's a pretty good case of like where 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.359 you say, this is just partisan hacker, Like get Bill, 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:09.400 get Doug banned, Bill's body man, who got a feleip attack. 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.399 Watch right, right, right right. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.080 Yeah, you get that guy, But like, get people where 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.400 they actually are in the files. Don't get people where 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.600 you are going to be able to you know, just grandstand. 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:22.960 And you and I have talked about this, and it 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.639 should be said again, you and I, people on the 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.359 center left, the sanity based world, we don't give a 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.919 fuck if something bad happens to Bill Clinton and all 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.200 of this. At the end of the day, we don't care. 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.720 And so the same standard what's good for the goose 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.440 is good for the gander. And it seems to be 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.040 it's a shrinking universe of people who are saying I 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.040 stand with Donald Trump and why he's behaving when it 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.160 comes to the Epstein files, the ice is cracking, their 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.159 fissures forming I just think, faster your seatbelt. It just 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.640 seems to me, and again we're not allowed to say 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.080 the walls are closing in and so on. 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.280 They seem like they're on the back foot here. 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.800 It is not going in the right direction for the 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.680