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Speaker 1: It sounds like Trey Hopkins and Riley Reef will be

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Speaker 1: lot more swelling at a lot of change in the injury,

426
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Speaker 1: and then you have to decide how you're going to

427
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Speaker 1: address it, you know, will you be able to throw

428
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to do much practicing. This

429
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: would got to be surprised. If he doesn't throw a

430
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Speaker 1: football till Friday, that wouldn't surprise me at all, you know.

431
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Speaker 1: I think they want to treat it and get it

432
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Speaker 1: in as good as shape as they possibly can, and

433
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: the best way to do that is to is to

434
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Speaker 1: not you know, exert it over and over and over

435
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Speaker 1: again throwing a football. So yeah, it'll be it'll be

436
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Speaker 1: interesting to see how how the whole thing, uh, how

437
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: the whole thing plays out, how it reacts. But that

438
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: seventy one yard touchdown pass would have made him three

439
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Speaker 1: to seventy one yards passing two touchdowns an interception instead

440
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Speaker 1: of a quarterback grading at seventy, it would have been

441
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Speaker 1: over one hundred, you know, like it's been. So the

442
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: ripple effect that play was huge, obviously not just to

443
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Speaker 1: Joe's stats, but to the outcome of the football game

444
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: as well. Because it was nine nothing at that time.

445
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Speaker 1: That would have made a big If it's a big

446
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: explosive play, get momentum and all that sort of thing.

447
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's going to be interesting that the

448
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: thing that happens on a dislocation because I've dislocated fingers,

449
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: I dislocated my elbow, it wants to Once it's subluxes

450
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: and you have the collateral damage of this stretch or

451
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: tear or partial tear of ligaments, tenants, whatever, it wants

452
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Speaker 1: to continue to sublux it wants to go back out.

453
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Speaker 1: And that's that's the pain that he was feeling. That's

454
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Speaker 1: the problem he was feeling without anything to help kind

455
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Speaker 1: of support that from not happening. So I have a

456
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Speaker 1: feeling that at this from during the course of the

457
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Speaker 1: week here, he'll probably find a glove that will help

458
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Speaker 1: that sum and you know, then you just have to

459
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Speaker 1: get used to throwing, you know, with a glove. I

460
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Speaker 1: don't know how much he's done with that. I don't

461
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Speaker 1: know if he's had to do a whole lot of

462
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Speaker 1: that during the course of his career high school, college,

463
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Speaker 1: when he was at Ohio State. Probably not much at

464
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: LSU obviously, but throwing with a glove can be a

465
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: little different. Although some quarter back swear by it they

466
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: say they get a better grip on the football with

467
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: the gloves. So everybody's you know, teaching their own. Everybody's

468
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: different in that regard. But it's going to be interesting

469
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: to see what Joe Burrow comes up with. But I

470
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Speaker 1: do think, really I think maybe, you know, the only

471
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Speaker 1: guy of the injured players keeping everything crossed I can

472
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Speaker 1: on a woozier. I mean, if Logan Wilson's the only

473
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Speaker 1: guy that doesn't play, I'd be pretty good, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: if they if they get all the walking wounded back.

475
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Speaker 1: But like we've always talked about Dan, you know, being

476
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Speaker 1: available at the start of the game and being available

477
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Speaker 1: after you've taken twenty of thirty snaps in the game.

478
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Speaker 1: When you have an injury of some sort, can you

479
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: exacerbate it? Can you reinjure it? Can all those things happen? Yeah,

480
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: they can happen. So you just never know until you

481
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: get out there and start playing. As I mentioned off

482
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: the top, it looks like Hopkins and Reef will be back.

483
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: Did Trey Hill and Isaiah Prince struggle pretty badly last week? Yeah?

484
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Speaker 1: I think it was. I don't think the offensive line

485
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Speaker 1: as a whole played very well. I thought it was

486
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: one of their least effective efforts efforts of the season.

487
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: And you know, they just so happened to go up

488
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: against a team that gave you a lot of different

489
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: looks and personnel groupings and recognition and communication was a

490
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: big deal. And it starts from that point person that

491
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: center out in the offensive line, and there was some

492
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Speaker 1: communication problems, there were some recognition problems, and obviously the

493
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Speaker 1: Chargers realized that very very rapidly, so they started bringing

494
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: more than they normally do, or not bringing more, but

495
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: blitzing more a higher percentage. They weren't bringing more than

496
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Speaker 1: five people necessarily, but you'd come up in a configuration

497
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, eight guys could come, which five

498
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: are coming and which ones aren't. And they did a

499
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Speaker 1: good job of changing that up and testing the communication,

500
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Speaker 1: the identification communication and adaptation of rules for a blitz

501
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: pickups and past protections and that sort of thing, and

502
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: they fell short as well as, uh, you know, penalties.

503
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: This team prides itself on lack of penalties. I mean,

504
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: they're still first in the National Football League by by

505
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: a wide margin. I mean, they've only got fifty penalties

506
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Speaker 1: on the season. There's only two other teams that can

507
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: that can make that claim um that have h fifty

508
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: less than sixty penalties, and the Bengals have the fewest

509
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Speaker 1: at fifty. And then they're number one in fewest penalty

510
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: yards generated against them too. And there's only a couple

511
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Speaker 1: of teams that have less than six five hundred yards

512
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Speaker 1: and penalty yards and the Bengals are sitting there at

513
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty four. So they've done a good

514
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Speaker 1: job in that regard. But last week, seven penalties, you know,

515
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: two on the center, one on the right tackle, and

516
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, two holding penalties and illegal use of hands

517
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: to the face masks. Those those are brutal. You know,

518
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: they took away good games, they took away significant plays,

519
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: They put you off schedule when you were on schedule.

520
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: So obviously they had their struggles. Let's stick with injuries.

521
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: Trey Wayne's and Deonta Smith have been cleared to practice.

522
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: The Bengals have three weeks to either activate them or

523
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Speaker 1: rule them out for the rest of the year. Let's

524
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Speaker 1: talk about Trey Wayne specifically. He missed the first three

525
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Speaker 1: games of the year due to a hamstring injury that

526
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Speaker 1: he suffered in training camp. He played pretty well in

527
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: his first game back against Jacksonville, and then he hurt

528
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Speaker 1: the other hamstring in his second game back against Green Bay.

529
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Speaker 1: So now he's missed seven in a row. Do you

530
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Speaker 1: expect him back this week? And can he help? That's

531
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Speaker 1: a puzzling situation there, because he hasn't had a history

532
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: of injuries, hamstring injuries in particular, and now he's got

533
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Speaker 1: hamstring injuries in both areas, and it makes you wonder

534
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: a little bit when you pectoral hamstring, other hamstring. I

535
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: don't know if you're taking whatever supplement you're taking, or

536
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: maybe you should rethink what you're doing if there's been

537
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: some sort of a change in that regards that's maybe

538
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: altered the way your body's reacting to whatever it is.

539
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's doing anything at least, I'm

540
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: just saying that sometimes bodies don't respond well to certain

541
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: diet changes or additives or whatever supplements whatever guys do.

542
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: But with that said, if he's healthy, I think he

543
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: can help, you know, I really do. I mean, I

544
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: think the guy can help. And honestly, if he's been

545
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: a pro, a pros pro, he's taken mental rep after

546
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: mental rep, and he's kept up with everything they've done

547
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: in terms of adjustments and problems they've had and how

548
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: those problems have been rectified and all those sort of things.

549
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: So hopefully, you know, it won't be like he's been

550
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: in a closet somewhere and locked up and not understood

551
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: what's been going on through this whole process. So if

552
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: he can go out there and get it done physically,

553
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: he's a he's a talented guy. I mean, he can run,

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: he's long, he's got I mean, they paid him a

555
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: ton of money for a reason. And if he can,

556
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: if he can get out there and remain healthy, that

557
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: would that would be a big plus. Can particularly if

558
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: if it was he is not injured. Is that foot

559
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: injury isn't so severe that you know he might even

560
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: be able to suit up and help some um, that

561
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: would be that would be a very big addition. I

562
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that they'd necessarily activate him.

563
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: If a Woozier is showing signs of being totally ready,

564
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: they may give him a little more practice time to adapt.

565
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: But in a quote emergency situation, be good to have

566
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: a guy that you paid a ton of money too,

567
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: that you had a lot of confidence in if, in fact,

568
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: you know, he's healthy, and I would think seven weeks,

569
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good stretch to get your get

570
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: your hamstring right. So hopefully that's that wouldn't be an

571
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: issue anymore. But as we know, though, the weather is

572
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: going to start to change. It's as it's not supposed

573
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: to be as cold on Sunday as it's been you know,

574
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: in the early stages of the week here. But sometimes

575
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: in that that cold, damp weather, it's tough for some

576
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: of these you know, tightly muscled guys to get themselves loose.

577
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Speaker 1: Here's a good stat courtesy of our friend Paul Dayner

578
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: Junior from the Athletic in the Bengals seven wins, they

579
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: have five turnovers and they're five losses. They have fourteen turnovers.

580
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: So for all the analysis that we do and everybody

581
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: else does, is it as simple as when they take

582
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: care of the ball, they win and when they don't

583
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 1: they lose. Yeah, although they had you know, they had

584
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: a minus turnover ratio in Baltimore and won by forty

585
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: one twenty. There's always something that's like what there's there's

586
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: you're always going to find, you know, an exception to

587
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: the rule. But in general, I mean in their last

588
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: two losses they've had seven giveaways, seven turnovers, and two

589
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: game stretch. It's going to be hard to beat anybody,

590
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: and they didn't. They didn't beat them, So it is

591
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: holding one of the football. Ball security is a big deal.

592
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: And the thing that you know, I took notice of

593
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: as I was looking through numbers in the early stages

594
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: of preparation, forty nine ers have forced twenty five fumbles

595
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: number one in the National Football League. Twenty five fumbles

596
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: in twelve games over to a game on an average basis.

597
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's like, that's being aggressive in that area. Obviously,

598
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: I mean some luck involved with all of that are

599
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: bad luck for the players that are losing those footballs,

600
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: but man, that's obviously a focus of attention. And have

601
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: twenty five of them. They've only recovered eight, but you know,

602
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: that's still a significant, significant number, and it puts them

603
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: in amongst the league leaders. In the league, they're tied

604
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: for six with eight fumble recoveries. But man, twenty five

605
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: fit the ground. Man that's better secure the pig because

606
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, lost a couple last week and both of

607
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: them were very, very painful. So you're gonna have to

608
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: don't anything worse than even Stephen in the turnover ratio.

609
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: You're starting to play with fire a little bit. The

610
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: forty nine ers were a super Bowl team two years ago.

611
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: Then they were injury plagued. Last year, three different guys

612
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: started at quarterback. They went six and ten. I think

613
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: people expected them to bounce back with a big year

614
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: this year. They've had some more injury problems. They're six

615
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: and six. How good are the forty nine ers this year?

616
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: That's a that's a great You know, they on paper

617
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: and they look like and when you watch you watch

618
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: their scheme, their schemes offensively and defensively, you think this

619
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: is a football team that has some talent. It's pretty

620
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: well put together. But man, it just hasn't like you said, Man,

621
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: it hasn't parlayed. You know, they've four their six losses

622
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: or by uh seven points or less, so they've been

623
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: in a bunch of close games and haven't haven't really

624
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: taken full advantage of it. I think I think Jimmy

625
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is a quandary. I mean, that guy, to me,

626
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: he'll he'll he'll make some plays and then he'll play

627
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: some games where it's like, yeah, Jimmy gi man, he

628
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: can he can get it done. And then he'll just

629
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: look he'll look terrible. I mean you'll see him stare

630
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: his target down. I mean just stare it down. And

631
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: he tries to looks to me like sometimes he tries

632
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: to keep everything between the numbers because I don't think

633
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: he trusts his arm strength. To me, he doesn't like

634
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: to go outside as much as most quarter about now.

635
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: You we had a guy that we saw last week

636
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: justin Herbert. I mean, he'd fired the heck out of

637
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: it from the right sideline to the left side line

638
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Speaker 1: and not worry about it. But I think Jimmy g

639
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: feels more comfortable, Uh look, looking in the middle of

640
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: the football field between the numbers and making reads there

641
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: and the ball's not in the air, you know, as much.

642
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Speaker 1: And I think he has a pretty good understanding of

643
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: the depth, perception and touch to put on the ball

644
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: over the linebackers in front of the state. He seems

645
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: to want to throw the football in those u in

646
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: those particular areas and uh, you know, I mean he's

647
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: thrown into uh, he's thrown into coverage some you know.

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00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean he'll he hasn't. He hasn't been totally clean

649
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: in that regard. So I think I think he's the

650
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: key to the football game, particularly if the Bengals can, Uh,

651
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: if the Bengals can can get a lead and and

652
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: uh impact the middle of the football field, and and

653
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: uh make make Jimmy g throw the ball to the

654
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: outside where he's not real comfortable. And and then if

655
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Speaker 1: he does throw the ball in the middle of the

656
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: football field into crowds, which he has done some, then

657
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a recipe for success. But

658
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the first thing they have to do is control the

659
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: running game, or they may see Shanahan do what Belichick did,

660
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: only throw it three times in a game. I mean,

661
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: it would not shock me that it's happened before. I mean,

662
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have won games where Jimmy Geeson

663
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: owned the ball less than twenty times, you know, like

664
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Speaker 1: seventeen times or something like that. If they get that

665
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Speaker 1: running game going, that wouldn't have stunned me at all.

666
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Speaker 1: If they if they just keep trying to keep the

667
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Bengals in the meat grinder and keep Joe Burrow and

668
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: all his explosive weapons on the Bengal sideline. Is Kyle

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00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan the best play designer slash play caller in the NFL.

670
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's right there. I've heard

671
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Speaker 1: too many people given that kind of praise that too

672
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: many people that I respect have a pretty good knowledge

673
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: and understanding of what's going on. I do think that

674
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: his running attack is very, very creative. It's very very multiple,

675
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: it's very very diverse. There's physicality to it, there's a

676
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: little deception to it, you know, there's a lot of

677
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: a lot of window dressing to it. But the bottom

678
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: line is he still wants to thump you, you know,

679
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: he still wants to put it to you that way.

680
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: And then I do think that that he does a

681
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: great job. And you know, I've heard this for years

682
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: about him that as far as creating plays that run

683
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: his receivers open, he's as good as the resident the league.

684
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Instead of the receiver having to make a great move

685
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: on a route to create separation, he creates separation by formation, configuration,

686
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: patterns of the routes and all that sort of thing,

687
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: and guys just you know, will bust open. So yeah,

688
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: he's he's obviously very very smart, football minded guy. He's

689
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: got a beautiful mind for the game of football. As

690
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: they say, on defense, they have Nick Bosa twelve sacks,

691
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Speaker 1: they got linebacker Fred Warner, first team All Pro last year,

692
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: highest paid a linebacker in the NFL now, but their

693
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: twentieth in points allowed. How good is their defense? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, it's like you look at it and Bosa

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Speaker 1: Bosa is. It's interesting because to my recollection, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: went west with Bosa to rehab Nick and Joey, you

697
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: know Nick in particulars Nick just had his surgery as well,

698
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: so they're very they're very close. And Joey Bosa didn't

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00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: play much in that football game at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he went out with the concussion protocol and get cleared,

701
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: but they just kept him out, you know, as a

702
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: as a precaution more than anything that ended up didn't

703
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: really need him. But yeah, Nick Bosa is a guy

704
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: that is talented. They rush him from both edges. He's

705
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: got some athletic versatility to him in that regard. I

706
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: think Armstead can be a dangerous guy. You know. Warner

707
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: is a very, very athletic linebacker who seemed a lot

708
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, during the course of his career. It's it

709
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: is all very interesting. You know. The thing about the

710
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: forty niners, like we talked about earlier Dan the Bengals

711
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: turnover issues. The Bengals are minus two, forty nine are

712
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: minus four. I mean, they've only got one fewer giveaway

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00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: than the Bengals, and they've got three fewer takeaways than

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00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals. So that's been their problem in football games

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00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: as well, is that turnover ratio. And they've they've gotten

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: themselves penalized quite a bit. I mean, seventy three for

717
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty three yards as opposed to fifty

718
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: for four and twenty four yards against the bengalsul mistakes

719
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: in turn in the form of turnovers, penalties, mental areas,

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00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: things of that nature have hurt the San Francisco forty

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00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: nine ers is probably as much as any team in

722
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: the National Football League as well. I mean, you look

723
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Speaker 1: at them defensively, their numbers say, I mean they're eighth

724
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Speaker 1: in the NFL defensively, and first downs allowed ninth and

725
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: third down conversion percentage allowed. They're sixth in yards allowed

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00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: per game, tenth in yards allowed per play. They're tied

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Speaker 1: for fourth in fewest passing yards allowed, they're eight and

728
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: sacks per pass attempt. You know, like I said, they

729
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: forced twenty five fumbles and recovered eight of them. But

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00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: then you look at it's all about points, and you know,

731
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: maybe their offense has put them in bad field position.

732
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Special teams has put them in bad field position. So

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you're just looking at paper and you don't

734
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: have an understanding of the flow of you know, on

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00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: a play by play basis of the team, some things

736
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: just don't add up, you know. And I will say

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00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: though that the other thing is you have Bosa with

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: twelve sacks and then you drop off the face of

739
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: the earth to like three and a half I think

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00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: is the next one. Yeah, Keys got three and a

741
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: half and Armstead has got three. I mean, you know,

742
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: you look at look at the Bengals. They've they've got

743
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Hendrickson with eleven and a half, Hubbard with seven and

744
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: a half, Hill has four four and a half, Ogan

745
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: Joby has four and a half. I mean, they've got

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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: they've got a little bit more balanced in their pass

747
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: rush instead of just you know, totally dependent on one guy.

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00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's all I can say is on a

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00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: week to week basis in the NFL, though, it's all

750
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: about matchups and that and that specific game and the

751
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: early flow of the football game is going to have

752
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: a big bearing on how this thing transpires, There's no

753
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: question about it. Last thing, the Bengals announced down Wednesday

754
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: that Kay Adams from Good Morning Football and the NFL

755
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: Network will be the ruler of the jungle this Sunday

756
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: at Paul Brown Stadium. I love Good Morning Football. I

757
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: think if you could bottle the chemistry between the host,

758
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: you'd be a very wealthy person. Are you a good

759
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: morning football guy? Absolutely every single morning? And so's my

760
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: wife Lynn. I mean we get up early, you know,

761
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: we're early risals anyway, but we'll put that on, you know,

762
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: right away as we're doing whatever we're doing and check

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00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: it out. And she's become a huge Good Morning Football

764
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: fan as survive from the from the start of it.

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00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: I think that they're they're able to mix entertainment and

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00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: information about as well as anybody. I mean, it is

767
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: just when you you really have to, you know, pay

768
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: full attention and don't get two swept away with sometimes

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00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: the way they delivered, because there is some good information

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00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: in there. But boy, if you want to if you

771
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: want to start smiling in the morning. That's a good

772
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: show to watch too, because they feed off each other

773
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: exceptionally well. And I do think that there is there's great,

774
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: great chemistry amongst amongst all of them. And even when

775
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: they they'll you know, they'll bring in if they got

776
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: ones off and they bring one in the other two

777
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: or three will pick it up. And it just works.

778
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: It just works no matter what three or four people

779
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: are on the set for them, they do a heck

780
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: of a job. I'm very impressed with what they do

781
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: every day. It's okay if you're listening open invitation. The

782
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: home Radio Booth would welcome you on Sunday after you

783
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: lead the Hooday chant prior to the game, come join

784
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: your friends and fans, Dan and Dave and the Bengals

785
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Radio Booth, no question about it. K is Okay, more

786
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: than okay, K is special. K. Last, but not least,

787
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Speaker 1: it's time for this week's No the Faux segment as

788
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: we check in with Greg Poppa, who joined Lapping Me

789
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: on the Bengals Game Plan Show. Greg graduated from Syracuse

790
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: one year after I did and has become a legend

791
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: in the San Francisco area At various points. He's called

792
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: games for the Golden State Warriors, San Francisco Giants, Oakland A's,

793
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: and Oakland Raiders before becoming the play by play voice

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00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: of the San Francisco forty nine Ers. I've been fired.

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Speaker 1: That's part of the deal, right, It's gonna beat we think,

796
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: so too. Looking forward to seeing you as well. So

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00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Greggy called the Super Bowl a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: as the voice of the forty nine Ers. Then San

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Speaker 1: fran had a bunch of injuries last year, including one

800
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: to quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, and the team went to went

801
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: fell to six ten. I expected the forty nine Ers

802
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: to bounce back in a big way this year and

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00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: be one of the NFL's best teams. But that hasn't

804
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: been the case. The six and six Why aren't they better?

805
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I thought the roster actually was

806
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: deeper Dan starting this season, that it was leaving Miami

807
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: on ground. Talks day night in twenty twenty after the

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen year, injuries not quite as dramatic as the

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00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty year, and the main injury obviously, losing Jimmy

810
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: was bad, but you know, George Kittle and Nick Bosa,

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Speaker 1: who's an absolute game wrecker, went out in Week two.

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00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: But this year they lost Jason Burrett in the first

813
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: game in Detroit. They lost for he mosted in that game.

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00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: They still got off to a two and oh start.

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Speaker 1: They lost a home game against Green Bay that they

816
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: probably should have won, a Seattle game. I think this

817
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: is kind of the tipping point of the year. They

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00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: controlled the Seattle home game in early October, and then

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo got got hurt late at the first half of

820
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: that game, couldn't play the second half and Trey Lance

821
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: had to come in and they had some special teams mistakes.

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Speaker 1: They lost that game, and then Trey had to start

823
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: the next game, and they lost that game in Arizona.

824
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: And then they came out of the bye and they

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00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: had a game against Indianapolis at home and it was

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Speaker 1: just an absolutely we don't get rain at this time

827
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Speaker 1: of the year in October, but it was one of

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Speaker 1: those ridiculous rain storms we had. It adversely affected Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: He didn't play well in that game. We lost that

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00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: game on Sunday Night Football, And the next season was

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Speaker 1: kind at the crossroads. We were two and three going

832
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: to Chicago and Jimmy played a great game, especially in

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Speaker 1: the second half. We won that game. Deebo Samuel had

834
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Speaker 1: a big game at a real bad game in Arizona

835
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Speaker 1: the following week, and then they got hot. They won

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Speaker 1: three in a row and they really re established the

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00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: identity of the Super Bowl team day, which is heavy

838
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: run game. We're talking forty four runs, two runs, thirty

839
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Speaker 1: nine runs in three straight games. And when you run

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00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: the ball like that and pick up third downs at

841
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: the clip, they were picking them up at about half.

842
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: They were keeping the balls damn near forty minutes of

843
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: the game, and the defense wasn't on the field much.

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00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: They were fresh. They had three quality wins this game

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00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: in Seattle. They were sloppy. They didn't have Deebo Samuel

846
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: and they have Fred Warner. They turned the boat over

847
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: too much. But they're kind of wildly inconsistent. But I

848
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: would say they are extremely capable. They are capable, maybe

849
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: not quite to be at the level of that twenty

850
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: nineteen team because they haven't had the bookend to rick

851
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: this year with d Ford hardly playing, but they're still

852
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: They're still capable and on any given Sunday they can

853
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: beat anybody. If the NFL, But I think at any

854
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: given Sunday they could lose any team in the NFL. Well,

855
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: that sounds like a lot of teams in the NFL

856
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: this year. It's crazy, isn't it. It It really is. I

857
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: mean in the AFC, twelve of the sixteen teams in

858
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: the conference have a five hundred record or better. It is.

859
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: It's just all bunched up. It's nuts. Kyle Shanahan, is

860
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: he an offensive guru? Is he an offensive wizard? I mean,

861
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: everybody talks about his running game, how he out leverages people,

862
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: out gaps people with formations, motions, window dressing, all that

863
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and how he schemes wide receivers open

864
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: in his passing game. Is he a guru? A lot

865
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: of question. He's Mike Shanahan's son, Dave, so he grew up.

866
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: He was in diapers learning this stuff. And Mike who

867
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: I called the Raiders games for twenty one years. So

868
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of him in the AFC West obviously,

869
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: and he was a coach. When you were broadcasting against

870
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: him or playing against him or coaching against him, you

871
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: feared him. Mike was that good of a play designer

872
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: and play caller Kyle has taken the Shanahan system, which

873
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: is that outside zone. Alex Gibs the on line coach

874
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: going back years ago, and he's taken up to another

875
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: level with free staff motion and the way they get

876
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: the edge. They have a blocking scheme called eighteen zoro

877
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: and nineteen zoro eighteen to the right, nineteen to the left,

878
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: which was a toss sweep action. But they do it

879
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: with two special players at fullback and tight end and

880
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: they're the highest paid players at their positions in the

881
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. And use Check is now on

882
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: a second contract. You guys know him obviously well from Baltimore.

883
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: Just a great player. He played so many different positions,

884
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: and then he got George Kittle as well. The tight

885
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: ends all block They get to the edge as well

886
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: as any team in football, whether it's the pin and

887
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: pull game, which a lot of teams are doing. But

888
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they're doing, Dave. They're doing what

889
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: I call positionless football. And we kind of saw this

890
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: in basketball years ago with Miami and the Miami Heat.

891
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: And you know, Dan mentioned my association with the Golden

892
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: State Warriors. The Warriors took it to another level where

893
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: you have like players of all the same size, and

894
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: you can switch it all the forty nine ers when

895
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: you take the five offensive linemen and the quarterback out

896
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: of the equation. In some systems, the quarterbacks live in

897
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: the run game, but take those six stationary players and

898
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: you go to the five eligibles. What Kyle has done

899
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: is cross train running backs, tight ends, wide receivers where

900
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: they're all capable of lining up at any position, whether

901
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: it's the X, the Z. He calls the slot position

902
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: the F, but that F could be a wide receiver

903
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: when they go eleven person out free wide receivers, or

904
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: it could be a fullback, or it could be a

905
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: tight end, or it could be anybody. So they cross

906
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: train their players to play a multitude of position, so

907
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: it's not just scheming like we're going to get to

908
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: the edge and we're going to block this differently. But

909
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: they also get especially in man teams. And then you're

910
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna see what DBO, Samuel, I think we'll come back

911
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: and play. They have this package called the dead Pool

912
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: because DBO sounds like deadpool and this cool. And they

913
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: motioned the Z wide receiver, which is what DEVO is,

914
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the flanker, the move guy, the jet sweeper, and all

915
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: of a sudden he comes in the offensive backfield and

916
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: he lines up as a running back and they run him.

917
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: And sometimes he's a lead blocker. Sometimes he says the

918
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: half back and he follows a lead blocker. Could be anybody.

919
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, Kyle has just gotten so sophisticated. And they

920
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: do it with tempo, they do it with blocking schemes,

921
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: they do it all. But right now, what I think

922
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: he's doing more than ever and Devo is the kind

923
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: of a centerpiece of it all. Laugh is they've gone

924
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: positionless football right now. Interesting. Yeah, our guest is Greg Papa,

925
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: the voice of the forty nine ers. So San Francisco

926
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: paid a hefty price in the offseason and move up

927
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: in the draft to select Trey Lance. Did they do

928
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: it because Jimmy g can't stay healthy or because of

929
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: his limitations as a player, Yes, and yes I mean they,

930
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean the Jimmy's the greatest guy in the world.

931
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: You know he would fit in write with us on

932
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: the quad in Syracuse. SE's Assault to the Earth guy

933
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: from Chicago Land love the guy and he has one.

934
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: When this team has had a healthy Jimmy Garoppolo they've

935
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: wanted the very high percentage you could win the Super

936
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo. But Jimmy makes an air or

937
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: to a game that is befuddling, and he did it

938
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: twice this last game. Threw an interception to Bobby Wagner

939
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: that was just hard to understand. It was a second

940
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: window throw. He was supposed to wait till George Kittle

941
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: passed Bobby Wagner, and he didn't, and he threw Bobby

942
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Wagoner the ball. Then he threw one later in the

943
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: game that was even worse, where George Kittle was completely

944
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: covered with a thicket of Seattle defenders and he overthrew them.

945
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: He did it the week before when he threw one

946
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: right to Harrison Smith. He turns the ball over a

947
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: little bit too much and he frustrates Kyle in that regard. Now,

948
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: all that being said, I would not anticipate Trey playing

949
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: in this game, Dan, I mean maybe if they get

950
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: into a down and distance goal line. I'm telling an

951
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: extreme red zone, you know, third, fourth down, short yardage.

952
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: You could see them jump into what they called Bison

953
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: personnel because he's North Dakota State, which is the Bisons,

954
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: the program there, but they haven't done that really since

955
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: he started the game in Arizona back got October the tenth,

956
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: so I don't anticipate that. But they wanted to upgrade

957
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: at that position. They really wanted to get Matthew Stafford.

958
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: They were they were all in on Stafford. It's just

959
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: Stafford wanted to go play and in LA he wanted

960
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: that lifestyle down there. So once they lost out on him,

961
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: they were into Deshaun Watson a little bit, but that

962
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: obviously went sideways in the offseason pretty quickly after that,

963
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: so they moved on. But I they they felt like

964
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: they had to upgrade to keep up with the rest

965
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: of the league and in the quality of play. Now

966
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: all that being said, you know, to make another basketball analogy,

967
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: Trey is a one and done guy. He played one

968
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: year of college football in one other game. He's a

969
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: long way away. He only had three hundred eighteen pass

970
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: attempts last year at a lower level of college football.

971
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: He's a smart guy, or work his ass off. He's

972
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: in his iPad constantly, but he's not ready right now

973
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: to take this team over. In my my concern would

974
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: be if he's ready next year to do it, because

975
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to learn. And this is a

976
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: ready may team to be a playoff team and to

977
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: turn it over to a young quarterback. Now, your guy's different.

978
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: He's just so skilled and so ready. And you know

979
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: he didn't play a lot either. But Trey's got some

980
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: room to grow. So to answer your question, Jimmy gets

981
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: hurt a lot, But Jimmy also hurts the team a

982
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: little bit too much by throwing the ball to the

983
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: wrong colored jerseys. Let's talk about the defensive side of

984
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: things a little bit. You look, you look at some

985
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: of the numbers. Eighth in the NFL and first downs aloud,

986
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: their ninth and third down conversion percentage defensively sixth, and

987
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: total yards per game tenth and yards per play tied

988
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: for fourth and fewest passing yards allowed eighth, and sacks

989
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: per play. They forced twenty five fumbles. That's the stunning number.

990
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Twenty five fumbles force leads the NFL. Eight recoveries tied

991
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: for six. Are the numbers are they? Are they true?

992
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Or is the defense playing like the numbers say? Or

993
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: how is the defense playing? They have some categories they're good,

994
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: so they're not the twenty five forced fumble they they

995
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: forced four fumbles. The other game is Day the Day

996
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: in Seattle Day, but then they recovered two of them,

997
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: so they've got twenty five force just eight recovered, so

998
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: they they've had a lot of bad bounces on that.

999
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: The one guy who's forced I think seven of them

1000
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: is Josh Norman, right, and in Chicago they have what

1001
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: they call the peanut punch and Charles Tillman punching the

1002
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: ball out. I call it the Norman knockout is what

1003
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: he does here, and he's a deept at it, but

1004
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: really that's the one thing he does well. He has struggled.

1005
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: So one thing you have to factor in, Dave is

1006
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the number of defensive pills defensive pass interference calls is

1007
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: alarmingly high and the reason that their offense and the

1008
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: running game has been able to cover for them. This

1009
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: is not the twenty nineteen forty nine Ers defensively. I

1010
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: think this is the twenty nineteen forty nine or running

1011
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: game at some point. The pass he gave is a

1012
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: little bit inconsistent. They do miss Emmanuel Sanders off that

1013
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team, but this is not a sledgehammer defense.

1014
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: That defense in twenty nineteen. That's what I called their

1015
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: pass rush group is what I call the gold Rush,

1016
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: which is when I first remembered forty nine or football,

1017
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: going back to the early seventies and John Brody and

1018
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: all those guys. There was a guy named Cedric Hardman

1019
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: on their defensive line. You may have known him Dave

1020
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: Ye Greek player, and their pass rush the backdown was

1021
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: called the gold Rush. So I immediately dugged Nick Bos.

1022
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: D Ford is the two ends DeForrest Buckner who's now

1023
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: at Indianapolis Colts and Eric Armstead, the modern day version

1024
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: of the gold Rush. They don't have that gold rush

1025
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: right now. D Ford doesn't get on the field. He's

1026
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: hurt with a bad slow to heel persistent back problem.

1027
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: The Forrest bunk their place for the Colts. They have gotten.

1028
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: They've moved Derek Armstead inside exclusively, and they've got DJ

1029
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Jones number ninety three is a really good three technake

1030
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: up field penetrator, kind of plays more of a two eye,

1031
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: and then you've got the other end, whoever that may

1032
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: the hard and Key or Samson Abacam or Charles and

1033
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: Menehu or whoever. But it's not the same. Bos says

1034
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: better than he was at nineteen. Bosa is the best player.

1035
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: The two best players on the team, or Nick Bo said,

1036
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Trent Williams on offense, the left tackle and then George.

1037
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: But George Kettle's been hurt a lot this year, so

1038
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 1: it's not been a great defense. Fred Warner's not playing

1039
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: nearly as well as he played last year when he

1040
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: was All Pro Fred and they've had injuries in the

1041
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: second day, losing Jason Barrett George rn acl first game

1042
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: of the year was something they still have not overcome.

1043
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: And in this game, we're not going to have Emmanuel Moseley.

1044
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: He's out several weeks with a high ankle. So Dante

1045
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: Johnson I think will start at one corner, Josh Norman

1046
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: at the other. Josh is a guy they attacked. The

1047
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: best guy clearly in that cornerback room is the slot guy,

1048
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: the nickelback, Kawan Williams. The safeties play well, Chakua's guitar

1049
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward and the new young guy telling who founda

1050
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: is a good player. And they play a lot of

1051
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: dime three safety three corner defenses day. But some of

1052
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: the numbers that tell the story, some of them miss

1053
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: leading because how much the offense has played keepaway with

1054
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: the ball. This is not It's not the forty nine

1055
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: or defense at twenty nineteen, and I would say it's

1056
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: not a championship caliber defense, but it is capable where

1057
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: if the offense is staying true to their formula to

1058
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: being a good enough defense you can win with. That's

1059
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: going to do it for This episode of the Bengals

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