1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to Post Run Hi. This podcast dives 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: into each individual's approach to movement, well being, origin stories, 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: and personal growth. Today, I am so excited for you 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: to hear my conversation with Olivia Ponton. And backing up 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: for a second, I am so grateful to be starting 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: this podcast journey with you all. I started the Running 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: Interview show almost two years ago now, and I'm so 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: thankful for every single one of you who has been 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: a supporter of the show. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: This new season is going to. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Allow us to go even deeper with our guests after 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: our runs. This is something so many of you have 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: requested for me to do, and we are going to 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: bootstrap and build this show together. Today we're going to 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: be learning all about Olivia. She has achieved so much 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: success as a model and as a content creator, and 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: I am so excited for you. 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: To care her story. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Olivia. Welcome to post her Hi. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: We just ran about a mile. 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I have not swept this much quite some time. 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you. 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: What is your favorite form of movement right now? 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to say ploates because everyone says that, 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: but I would say ploates because I feel like you 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: can chat with your girlfriends and also get a good workout. 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: My upbringing was quite interesting until I started social media 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: when I was about seventeen and then just kind of 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: mixed around. But growing up, basically, water skiing was my life, 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: as well as track and fields and trying not to 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: fail school. 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: It's so interesting that you were a water skier. Like 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: that blows my back. I didn't even know there was 35 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: professional water skiing. It's so random. 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: It's actually met someone recently, and I've never in my 37 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: entire life met someone who also professional water skis until 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: like three days ago, and then I was like, oh, 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: so we're the same person. 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: Basically, is it like a team practice? 41 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Like after school, we're showing up, everybody's getting onto a 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: boat and we're taking turns in the water. 43 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: It's every Sunday and we would go out to a 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: we'd go out to a lake and ski from seven 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: am to whenever the sun sat. You do pyramids and 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: you would get climb on top of other people and 47 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: do like all these twists. It's like cheerleading. But on skis, 48 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: do you also surf? 49 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 50 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so all the water. Yeah, but that was like differently. 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 3: I learned how to surf like maybe four years ago, 52 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: and it was a lot harder than I was expecting 53 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: it to be because it's like snow skiing mixed with water. 54 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: It's interesting. 55 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's so interesting. What was your family dynamic, Like, like, 56 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I know you have a sister. 57 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I have an older sister. Her name is Abigail. 58 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: And then I have my beautiful mother. I never called 59 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 3: her by her name, but her name is Diane. Diane Diane, 60 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: and my dad. 61 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: And I grew up just in a very loving family. 62 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: I was definitely the outcast and I loved making trouble. 63 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Within the family. 64 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: You were the outcosts, yeah, I would say specifically in 65 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: the family. My sister was like the perfect golden angel, 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: and I was always the one who was getting suspended 67 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: from school or just the ground I did basically for 68 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: three years straight of my life. When I was sixteen, 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: I basically was like, I don't want to be here anymore. 70 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: I need to figure out a way to get out 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: in kind of any way, shape or form. Then when 72 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: I turned seventeen, started doing social media, and then I 73 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: randomly got asked to move to La So that was 74 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: kind of my out. 75 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: You were one of those teenagers that was being a 76 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: little bit rambunctious. You were the youngest and you just 77 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: wanted to get space from your family kind of thing, 78 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: which I'm so normal about yet, right, But before you 79 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: moved to LA I know that when you were what 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen, you got into modeling. 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting when I was sixteen, you know, 82 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: random people would come up to me and just be like, 83 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I think you should model, and I 84 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: just was always. 85 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: Like, I like no. 86 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: And then I applied to agencies online when I believe 87 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: I was seventeen maybe sixteen, and oh my god, the 88 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: photos were so I went outside because my best one 89 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: of the time just had signed to a Molley agency 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: in Miami. Went outside in a bright pink neon bikini. 91 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: And if you modeled, that's just like a no, no, 92 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: you don't take digitals in a bright colored bikini. 93 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: And I took them with my phone camera. 94 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: I sent them to four or five agencies in Miami, 95 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: and then an agency in New York ended up reaching 96 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: back out through them, called Wilhelmina, and the agent was like, 97 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: send me more pictures than at this and I was like, 98 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: I don't have any more pictures. What do you want 99 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: me to do? So I went took a bunch with 100 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: my friends and then I came home from school one 101 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: day and I was like, I'm moving to New York. 102 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: They're like what, And I was like yeah, I made 103 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: up my mind and they were like, no, you're not. 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: And I made a whole PowerPoint presentation of why they 105 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: should let me go and visit at least then for 106 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: spring break. They finally said okay, and we all went 107 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: up here. We met with Wilhelmina in person and I 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: signed in person that day, which is really a special moment. 109 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: What initially drew you into modeling? 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: I think for me, when you were young, everyone had 111 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: their thing that they wanted to be, and mine was 112 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: I wanted to be an anesthe geologist. Wow, the person 113 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: that puts you to sleep when you're about to get 114 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: a surgery. But then I soon realized that you have 115 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: to go to school for thirteen years, and I was like, oh, 116 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: so I wouldn't even start my job until I was, 117 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, in my thirties, well in my thirties, and 118 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: I kind of took a step back, and then I 119 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: watched my very first Victoria Secret fashion show fourteen years old. 120 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: By the way, let's keep this in mind. And I 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: come up to my mom and I'm like, mom, I 122 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: have my new job and career. Meanwhile, her daughter wants 123 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: to be an antithe geologist. This is what she thinks. 124 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: And I go, I want to be a Victory Secret 125 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: model and she's like, okay, I had not hit puberty yet, 126 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: Like she was like, okay, we'll keep on going. 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: I was maybe five foot. 128 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: Who was your favorite model at the time at the time, 129 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: Jessepine describer, She's still my favorite model. 130 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: I were friends. 131 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm lucky enough to be friends with her, and she 132 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: is the sweetest person I've ever met. Then I drove 133 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: into just because that was so unrealistic for me at 134 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: the time. 135 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, modeling New York City. Have never 136 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: even been to New York City. 137 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: So I started really focusing on running because I was like, Okay, 138 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I could get a college scholarship to go somewhere to run, 139 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: and that, to me, I thought that would make my 140 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: parents very happy, and like every kid, you just want 141 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: to make your parents proud of you. So I dove 142 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: head into that, not gonna lie not gonna hinde myself up. 143 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: I was not terrible. 144 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: I feel like you were very good, thank you. 145 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: And I was the level where I could get a scholarship. 146 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: So you know, my sophomore, my junior year, I'm the 147 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: only thing I'm focusing on, and my junior year, I 148 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: just didn't. I loved it, but it was very Yeah, 149 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: you understand, like the athlete dynamic between like your body, 150 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: how you look at your body versus you can constantly 151 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: compare yourself to other people because you're doing the same 152 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: exact things as they are doing. Constant comparing myself to 153 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: other people and why I could never be as good 154 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: as them. 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: And this is. 156 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: Also kind of when I started posting on social media, 157 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: like around the same months and doing social media at 158 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: my high school, like most people, not a huge thing, 159 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: like kind of a little weird if you were doing it, 160 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: and people did not have the nicest things in the 161 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: world to say about me doing social media, and I 162 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: just never cared. I was like, I am gonna leave 163 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: in like six months and I'm probably never gonna see 164 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: it of you guys again. So if you have something 165 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: mean to say, keep it to yourself. And I remember 166 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: we had our first track meet, and that was the 167 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: first time someone had recognized me in person because it 168 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: was a huge track meet and this one really sweet 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: girl and my teammates were like shocked by that, and 170 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: I was like, I guess something, want something right right now? 171 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: Okay? 172 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Were you also at the same time doing photo shoots 173 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: for brands and doing work with Wilhelmina. 174 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: That I was signed with them? 175 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: Okay? 176 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: It was more so a plan when I graduated, I 177 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: was going to move there and I have found an apartment. 178 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: I figured it out. 179 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: It was like the smallest one bedroom apartment or I 180 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: was sharing it with other people. 181 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: Smallest bedroom. I think there was no bedroom. It was 182 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: a bed. 183 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: Basically, I was completely okay with living there. I was 184 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: going to have to get, you know, extra jobs. My 185 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: agent said, most models beginning work one to two jobs 186 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: to be able to pay for living expenses because in 187 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: the beginning of modeling sometimes occasionally you do have to 188 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: pay for photo shoots, so you do have to pay 189 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: out of pocket for all the really small things that 190 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: you wouldn't think of just from an outsider's perspective. 191 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: You have to make it in the city. 192 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: What was the pivotal moment for you that you were like, Okay, 193 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to do modeling instead of going to college. 194 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: I remember this so really, my best friend Emma, this 195 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: is actually how we became friends because I posted on 196 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: my close friends and I think it was on Snapchat, 197 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: I believe, and she was on it. We were not friends, 198 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: and I literally printed them out in front of me. 199 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: I had my modeling contract and I had to go 200 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: to FIU, which is Florida International University in Miami, and 201 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: I had like two options and I just sat there 202 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: for hours in my bedroom just trying to figure out. 203 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I need to make the decision tonight 204 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: because if I don't do it tonight, I'm never going to 205 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 3: do it. 206 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: That's a huge decision. 207 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like actually, my gosh. 208 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, how involved were your parents in the decision? 209 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: They did not want me moving to New York. 210 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Ok. 211 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: They were very much like you were going to college. 212 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: When I first brought it up to them, they were like, 213 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: absolutely not. And the fun part about social media that 214 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: I absolutely adore is that when I was seventeen years old, 215 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: I could financially stabilize myself and I wasn't like just 216 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: going crazy running around. 217 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: It's like I had a plan. 218 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: You end up moving to LA instead of New York. 219 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the part that I totally didn't remember 220 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: about you being in the hype house. 221 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: Okay, it was very interesting. 222 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: What was the following account that you were at at 223 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: the time that they reached out. 224 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: I think when they asked me, I had about five 225 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand followers on TikTok. Maybe it was really fast, 226 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: like I'm talking like night and day, like it was 227 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: from zero to like four million and probably three months 228 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: two months, which is to any person, it's like you 229 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: can't even process that. You just you don't process it. 230 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: And it's been four years and I still don't process it. 231 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: It's so crazy to think about like that many eyeballs 232 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: are on you, and obviously it's not all at once, right, 233 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: it's like you have eleve a million followers, like some 234 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: of your videos go megaviral, But it is a crazy 235 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: number to fathom. 236 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: At the time, I had a boyfriend who lived I 237 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: had an ex boyfriend who lived in LA and we'd 238 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: started dating when I lived in Florida. I had my 239 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: best friend who lived in Orlando. I lived in Naples, 240 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: and we would her and I would always meet up 241 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: to hang out, and one day we both got DMS 242 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: from the person who started hyphe house and another member 243 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: also who was in the house, and they basically were 244 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: just like, hey, can we go on a phone call? 245 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: They sounded all business ye. 246 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm seventeen years old, Like can I 247 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: live in Florida? 248 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: Like business? 249 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: Like okay, And so we basically got on a FaceTime 250 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: phone call and they talked to us. They asked us 251 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: a bunch of random questions about our lives, and we 252 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 3: were just like, here as it is. And then they 253 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: asked us, I think the following day, to come out 254 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: to Los Angeles to see. 255 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: How it would work. 256 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: At first, I was very like no, I'm okay, but 257 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: my best friend really wanted to. I was dating someone 258 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: who lived there, so it just made sense. And I 259 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: was like, COVID's just happened. Nobody's traveling. I'm not going 260 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: to school because school isn't even starting. 261 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: Like modeling's not really happying. 262 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like nothing, no photo they weren't any photo shoots 263 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: really right, nothing. Yeah, And I was like, well I 264 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: might as well. I just want to leave. 265 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: My house totally. 266 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: So we moved very randomly. I told my parents two 267 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: days before that I was moving. They were not happy 268 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: with that one. You were a funny teenager. 269 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just walked into the room. 270 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: Was like, by the way, guys, I'm moving in two 271 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: days and I should be back in a few weeks. 272 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: But if I don't come back like that, I'm gonna 273 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: be in Los Angeles. My mom didn't love that, but anyhow, 274 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: we moved. The Hype House is basically a ginormous house 275 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: in Hollywood Hills and there was probably seventeen bedrooms in 276 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: it or no, no, seventeen people, fourteen boys, three girls. 277 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: I was the only single girl who lived there for 278 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: the four month period of time. 279 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: What is it like jumping to living in a house 280 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: with all these other guys? 281 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: That's hard also something. 282 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: Like unfathomable, like you just you cannot process it until 283 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: you're in that situation. 284 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: But so fun. Yeah, you're like, yeah, it's fun. 285 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: It was really fun for me. That was like my 286 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: college experience. 287 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: And I look back at that and I'm like, wow, 288 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: I had like a four month summed up condensed four 289 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 3: years for most people. And I learned so much about 290 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: myself in that time period. And basically we'd wake up 291 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: and like film videos all day and then hang out 292 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: and then party at night, and then you go to 293 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: sleep and need do the same thing every day. And 294 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: then I did that for four months, and I was like, Okay, 295 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: I'm going a little insane. I need to leave. So 296 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: then I moved into a different house with like eight 297 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: of my other friends and lived there for six months. 298 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: And then I was like, okay, La, love you, goodbye. 299 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you moved to New York. Yes, How 300 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: do you feel like New York compares to La? 301 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: I love the beach. 302 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: Obviously New York very much lacks the beach here, but 303 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: I think if New York had. 304 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: A beach that we would be best friend. 305 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: I always think about that. I'm like, what if we 306 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: could fucking swim in the Hudson River. 307 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: That would be amazing, amazing, Like the piers. 308 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: Were all just little like dogs that we could jump off. 309 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: But there's so many studies that are like that, like Barcelona. 310 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you could see yourself living abroad? 311 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: I could live anywhere and I'd actually be the happiest 312 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: girl in the entire world, like I really would. 313 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like everything happens so fast. How did you 314 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: deal with the fame when it first hit. 315 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: I got a life coach. Okay, and if you don't 316 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: for anyone who doesn't know life coaches, it's basically like 317 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: a series of intents. For me, life coaches are different 318 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: from everyone. Mine was a series of like therapy two 319 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: to three times a day and for however, it's consecutive days. 320 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: So I had mine for I think about three weeks, 321 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: so I would be an intensive therapy because I could 322 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: not process it. Every person struggles with imposter syndrome where 323 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: you don't feel like you're actually in your body. 324 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: I've talked to so many people about this that have 325 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: achieved like so much success specifically also like in the 326 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: interviewing space, and they will literally say to you, like 327 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: it never goes away. Yeah, yeah, so we're all dealing 328 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: with that. 329 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 330 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: And I had an amazing life coach who would kind 331 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: of talk me through things. I'm a very visual learner 332 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: and I need to like see it in front of 333 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: me and be able to understand it for. 334 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: It to be okay. 335 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: And I went through that for about three weeks and 336 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: for some and that kind of just helped everything click 337 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: with me. 338 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: What are some of the tools that they taught you 339 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: my life. 340 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: Coach basically broke down how many followers is like a million? 341 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: For even example, you know, the nearest stadium to me 342 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: growing up was the Marlins Stadium, and he had me 343 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: google how many people fit in the stadium? Thirty six 344 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: thousand people? Thirty six k He's like, have you ever 345 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: been to that stadium before? 346 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: I was like yes. 347 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: He's like, how, like did it seem big? And I 348 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: was like, yes, it's the biggest stadium I've ever been in. 349 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: And he's like, that's and then I think thirty six 350 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: times thirty nine. I don't don't quote me on the math. 351 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: That's from four years ago. My knowledge, Like he told 352 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: me you were inside of thirty nine of those stadiums 353 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: with even just a million people following you, and like 354 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: you said, they're not looking at every single thing, but 355 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: over the course of a period of time they are. 356 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: And especially at that point in my life, it was 357 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: like just so many people that it was so unfathomable 358 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: to me that having that in the back of my 359 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: brain kind of broke things down and I was like, oh, 360 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: I am understanding the reach of the people that I'm reaching. 361 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: So this is why I'm going to talk about the 362 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: healthy things like I very much started on social media 363 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: by posting my workouts because growing up, I just wanted 364 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: to help people, and you know, this is what works 365 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: for me, so I don't know if it's. 366 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: Gonna work for you, but like, let's just let's try it. 367 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: And I started with like a like Quarantine series, and 368 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: it was so fun to me and I would just, oh. 369 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to see these. I thought, I haven't 370 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: seen these them. 371 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: They were so fun to make. 372 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: And I would just basically go with my phone and 373 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: I would work out and I would just set it 374 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: up on the floor. It was the simplest thing ever, 375 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: their fifteen second long videos, and I just cut up 376 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: my little workouts and I understood the reach of the 377 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: people I was giving, so I just wanted to radiate 378 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: as much happiness because that's all that I care about. 379 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you saying that, so thank you, because 380 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think with social media there's so 381 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: much negativity online. I think positive content creators are like, 382 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: that's what. 383 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: We need more of. 384 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: You just need them, Yeah, you just need them. 385 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: How do you deal with the highs and lows. 386 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: Of social media? 387 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: I was going through a hard time mentally with like 388 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: trying to process everything. Very random, Miss amazing Madison Bear Shadow. 389 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: I love you. 390 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: I love her. 391 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: I was sitting down with her and I was talking 392 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: to her about it because she's experienced a lot, way 393 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: more than I have ever just through she's been on 394 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: social media for longer than me, and she's like, just 395 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: turn off your comments. They can't comment negative things if 396 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: you don't give them a platform to comment. So I 397 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: turn off my comments for months, and even if I 398 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: did feel comfortable turning the back on, I just got 399 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 3: them off. I was like, you know what, She's so right, Like, 400 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 3: if you give people a platform to comment on, they're 401 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: going to share their opinions. 402 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Comment they're like a beast of their own too. It's 403 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: like there's the video content and then there's the comments. Yes, 404 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: and the comments take on a whole nother life. 405 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes. 406 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: So I just kept those off for a while. And 407 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: then also something that the life coach taught me was 408 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: just like don't look at them. And I know it's 409 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: so much it's very much easier said than done, but 410 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: for me, like ignorance is bliss, Like I'm just Gonnak and. 411 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: You're such You're such a good person that the comments 412 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: are never going to be that bad. 413 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: Ever, Oh no, sometimes they're mean, but just like you 414 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: know what, like, yeah, I don't know this person. They 415 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: don't know No, So why would I allow them even 416 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: a thought in my brain? Because I know all that 417 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: they want to do is hurt my feelings? 418 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: Right? 419 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: Why would I let someone hurt my feelings? 420 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 421 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you set boundaries with what you with? So? 422 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: Sometimes yes? 423 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes no, I feel like I'm very vulnerable about certain 424 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: topics that I feel like people know not to comment 425 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: certain things, and if they do, sometimes I see and 426 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: someone claps back at them really quickly. 427 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: I love you like we love our friends online. 428 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much that you've had so much 429 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: success modeling and you've had so much success as a 430 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: content creator. 431 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: Let's start with Sports Illustrated. 432 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: What was it like getting the call where you found 433 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: out you were going to be a Sports Illustrated rookie? 434 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 435 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: I actually was looking through my memories and I have 436 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 3: a video like right after I found out, and I'm okay, 437 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: let's let's paint that picture. So I'm in Yes, I'm 438 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and I'm shooting a actual swimsuit campaign 439 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: for this brand, and we're at the most beautiful set. 440 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: I was so grateful this day. I was just like, 441 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I can't believe this is my life 442 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: right now. And I'm getting my makeup done and my 443 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: publicis calls me and I'm like, okay, that's so random. 444 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: They never call me. 445 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: I was like what And I was like hello, and 446 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: she's like, can you step away from everyone for a second? 447 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, amis day? 448 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I go into the corner. I'm in the forest. 449 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Basically I'm going to like this random corner and I'm like, okay, 450 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: I'm by myself. She's she's like, are you sure. I 451 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: was like yeah. I was like, what's up? What's wrong? 452 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: And she's like, Sports Illustrated asked you to be a 453 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: rookie for this year and I was like, got the cameras, 454 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 3: what do you mean what? And I like immediately fell 455 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: to the ground. I was crying. I was the happiest 456 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: person in the world. They're obviously like, don't tell anyone. 457 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm telling my mom. Tell my mom, 458 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: and I told my best friend, sorry, I guess and immediately, yeah, mediately, 459 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: and they were both very happy for me, and I 460 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: was just shobbing in tears. And I come back to 461 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: set and the makeup artist is like, what's wrong. Everyone's 462 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: like are you okay? And I'm just like, They're like, 463 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: what's wrong. I was like, I literally can't tell you. 464 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: I want to tell you, but I cannot tell you. 465 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: And then we shot it I think two weeks later 466 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: in Montenegro, which was insane. 467 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: So that happened fast. 468 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: It's like you get the rookie call and then you're 469 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: ready to shoot Sports Illustrated. 470 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: They want to embrace you your beauty and however that 471 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: is so they never want to give you too long, 472 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: and from my opinion, they never want to give you 473 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: too long to prepare anything. 474 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: That's what I mean exactly how you are get the call. 475 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: I feel like Sports Illustrated for you is an amazing 476 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: partner because you are like the intersection of athlete and model. 477 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: That was like a life time goal and the fact 478 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 3: that I got it when I was eighteen, I was like, 479 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: this is what this is insane? Hellow And the first 480 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: time we shot in Montenegro, I was just crying the 481 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: whole day. I was like, I'm Jay I'm so sorry. 482 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I'm so sorry. 483 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 484 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: Also Montenegro, like the Middle. I had no idea where 485 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: we were going. I had to google what Montenegro was. 486 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: When I was getting on the plane, I was like hello, 487 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: and it was like a sixteen hour shoot day. I 488 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: was like, I will stay here for twenty four hours 489 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: if you want me to, I don't care. And I 490 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 3: remember it was freezing cold and we're shooting obviously all swimsuits, 491 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: and I remember just going home and just being like, what, 492 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: what did that just happen? 493 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: You're like serious impostor syndrome hits then for sure? 494 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: Right? 495 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: What is it like being on set for Sports Illustrated? 496 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Describe like what the set is like, Like you're in 497 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: this beautiful place. How many people are with you? 498 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: Production wise? 499 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Like? 500 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: Are there a ton of photographers? 501 00:21:59,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: You base? 502 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: You fly in the night before. Sometimes you do a 503 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: fitting prior, but we had done the fitting in New 504 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: York City so we'dn't have to fly in too earlier. 505 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: Landed next morning. 506 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: You wake up at like three am basically, so they 507 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: can start hair and makeup at like four I believe. 508 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: But there's just one hair artist, one makeup artist. They 509 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: completely transformed me into this like glowing goddess with all 510 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: these hair extensions and I have Oh, you faked Haan 511 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: so much the knife before and you wake up and 512 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: you're like, I don't love that. 513 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: I'd think so nervous. My fake tan is gonna be 514 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: like splotchy. Oh did they do it for you? 515 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: I think likest Oh. I was really funny in my 516 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: second year. I did not know this makeup artist and 517 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: she's like, can I tan you with like an oven 518 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: like with the met And I was. 519 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: Like, uh yeah, like here you go. 520 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: And that was such like with modeling, you have to 521 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: be really comfortable with your body because yeah, it's invasive. Yeah, 522 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: it's if you're not, like, well, you better get used 523 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: to it really quickly. 524 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: How do you feel like you got used to like 525 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's like grown ass men taking 526 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: your and you have to be in a bathy sit. 527 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. That's hard. 528 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: It's also kind of empowering. 529 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: It's very empowering. 530 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: I think I like to look at it as that way. 531 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 3: But I think for the privacy part of it, when 532 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: I was younger, I would get a little nervous about, 533 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 3: you know, asking for privacy because I was like, oh, like, 534 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to be an inconvenience. I don't want 535 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: to be an inconvenience. And then I got to a 536 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: point where I was like I didn't want other people 537 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: to see me because I was in a relationship and 538 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: it didn't matter if it was girls or boys or whoever. 539 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: The other person did not want anyone seeing me. And 540 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: also same for myself. And I would ask people on 541 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: set like, hey, do you have like a changing area 542 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: and they'd be like no, And I'm like, oh, okay, 543 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: that's humbling. So you kind of just had to get 544 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: used to it in a weird way. But now I'm 545 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: very grateful that I can just stand up for myself 546 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, we need to figure this out. 547 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, we're gonna need a changing yeah, or 548 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: a towel or something anything which is interesting. 549 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: Back to sports Ill Street set. 550 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you wake up tan, washed off hair, makeup, eat breakfast. 551 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: You gotta make sure you eat this day because you're 552 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: constantly posing like all day. It is tiring to a 553 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: certain dega absolutely, And you just got that food is fuel. 554 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: So I had I think two red bulls and I 555 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: ate allat of food. This day, i'd really get salmon flunch. Anyhow, 556 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: you immediately start first lights and we shaw on the 557 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: beach and the production is probably fifteen to twenty people. 558 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: I would say. 559 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: The photographer's name was James McCary and he was absolutely phenomenal. 560 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: Was so good at making people feel comfortable just in 561 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: their own skin. And MJ is just such a light 562 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: and she wants you to just feel like the most 563 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: confident version of herself. So they got the speaker going, 564 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: they got the music. 565 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: I love it. 566 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: You can just be dancing like feeling. You feel so comfident. 567 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 3: The vibes are there, all the vibes are there, and 568 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: you're like in a foreign country and you're in a 569 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: little bikini and you feel good. Like the vibes were 570 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: just one hundred and ten percent that day. So we 571 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: shot around the beach that we were saying, and then 572 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: we went into the town of Montenegro and shot around 573 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: there for a few hours and came back and did 574 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: sunset at this other beach and it was like a 575 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: cement beach. It was very interesting, but it was like 576 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 3: twenty degrees when we were shooting the last and I was. 577 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: Like, what do we get the shot please, It's so 578 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: cool and I love knowing that. Like I've talked to 579 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: other people that have been sports Illustrated models or that 580 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: are and they all say, like the shoots are literally 581 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: so empowering. But like going back to a little bit 582 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: what we talked about with like setting boundaries when you're 583 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: on set. I listened to your Emily Dackowski podcast, which 584 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: I loved, and you guys were both very open about 585 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: like there are situations in. 586 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: Modeling where you're young and you. 587 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Don't know how to like stand up for yourself, and 588 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: then certain things happen that you're not comfortable with, and 589 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: so so you have to set boundaries. 590 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: That's also like an empowering thing. I think once you 591 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: get older and you develop those boundaries within your own 592 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: life and then you come to work and you can 593 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: be like, oh, that's not normal, Like you're not supposed 594 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: to be treating me like that, You're not was to 595 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: ask me for that, or you know, just anything. There's 596 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: been countless times where I've had to like text my agent, 597 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: like when I'm at work and I'm like, Hey, this 598 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: person's weird, or like hey this isn't okay, or. 599 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: Just vice versu in the so nice having that person too, 600 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: to be able to go to like having a team 601 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: around you is key. 602 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: Oh yes, when I and my agent, so I was like, 603 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: I'm on it and then fixes it, so I'm like. 604 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: Thank you. 605 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about Victoria's Secret. 606 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: When I saw you doing the promo for the Victoriascretasion show, 607 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, if Olivia walks like, 608 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: my day's gonna be made. I just feel like you 609 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: embody a Victoria's Secret angel. Like I thro watching the 610 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: show so okay the show as well, right, like especially 611 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: having it come back. I was in Austin for F 612 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: one and I'm like sitting there with my laptop out 613 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: watching the Victoriasacret Fashion Show and I literally was having 614 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: so much, like so many flashbacks to being in high 615 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: school and watching the show and seeing Candice and Adriana, 616 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god. 617 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 3: I think it's such a nostalgic feeling for every everyone, 618 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: every our generation like as a whole, like we all 619 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 3: grew up watching and just being like. 620 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing. So I'm curious what was it 621 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: like being backstage? 622 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, I had no idea I was 623 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: actually going backstage when they were getting their hair and 624 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: makeup to Victoria's here. 625 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: It's like a family to you because you've done a 626 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: lot of paint campaigns, like you're very ingrained, and. 627 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: They're like family, like family through and through every time 628 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: I go and set. Obviously, when I first heart working 629 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: for them, I was very nervous, but I was like, 630 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: so determined to make them like me. And I was like, 631 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: we're gonna love each other. Okay, you're so like that. 632 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: I can't worried about that ever. 633 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: Okay, But I think people have. 634 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: A kind of semi knowledge of why they're on this 635 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: earth and what their point is, and you get to 636 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: a point in life where you can understand that about yourself. 637 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: I would like to say I've done a lot of 638 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: self healing very young in my life to understand that same. 639 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: Working for Victoria's secret is my that's my That's why 640 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm on this earth. That is genuinely why I'm on 641 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: this earth. And wait, I'm dying. That's it's very weird. 642 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: It's like I have a tattoo for Angel. It's a 643 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: whole thing. And we've talked about what we're gonna do 644 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 3: for the backstage thing and I'm good at talking to people, 645 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: but I was like, I'm also like a little shy, 646 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: like I'm just supposed to go up to these people 647 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, like, oh my gosh, and they too 648 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: are from my knowledge. I thought I was just gonna 649 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: interview them like on the pink carpet, like when they 650 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: were gonna be coming through. I was just gonna ask 651 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: them questions to did this, And then earlier in the 652 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: day they're like, Okay, are you ready to go? I was like, 653 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 3: go way, and they're like backstage. I was like, oh, 654 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: we're right now, right now, and they're like, yeah, we're 655 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: just gonna go take some you know, pictures, videos, whatever. 656 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 3: So still have no idea that I'm interviewing them. And 657 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: we get there and they're like, here's your microphone. I 658 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: was like, why do I need a microphone? And they're like, oh, 659 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: you're doing the questions right now. I was like, did 660 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: you have the questions prepared? 661 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: Like yes. 662 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: They also helped a lot with that because it was 663 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: kind of like cute sea questions. I felt like your 664 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: interviews were very natural well, which I was so much 665 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: about them, like I really do and not from like 666 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: a weird star awker point though, like I've grew up 667 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: watching them, I grew up loving them. I've also followed 668 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: them for what six years. 669 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: There's also a relatability factor to interviewing these girls, like 670 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: you are in that world. 671 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: Yes, It's like I can kind of like Lila Lila 672 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: Mas love her, we're friends. So I think when they 673 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: were like, oh, you want to go interview her, I 674 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, it would be so natural, 675 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 3: Like it's just like I'm having a conversation with her 676 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: or Miss Alex Grinsani. She's the funniest person I think 677 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: I've ever met. So I think it was so easy 678 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: because she would just make everything just such a moment. 679 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: And even with the other girls that I was interviewing, 680 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: being able to interview them and just ask them questions 681 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: that I'm genuinely curious about, I was like, Okay, this 682 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: is a lot easier than I thought it was going 683 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: to be. 684 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest thing I've learned with interviewing 685 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: is it's like you can't really go into it with 686 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: too much of a plan. You have to just see 687 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: where the conversation takes. 688 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: It's like I knew too much about them to not 689 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: make like for it to be awkward. 690 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: I was like, way, Oliview, I love it. You can't 691 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: make it awkward. 692 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: No, even if you make it awkward, It's like, yeah, 693 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: it would be funny, right. 694 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: It was very fun to be backstage with everyone. 695 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: Next year, Victoris of Your Fashion Show twenty twenty five, 696 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: do we think we're walking? 697 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna manifest We're going to make I'm manifesting it. 698 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: I think it just all depends. Like I'm a vspink eurly, 699 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: so I like if they have a section, I. 700 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: Think it would be so cool to see more like 701 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: content creators and like faces in the show. 702 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: It would be cute to bring in like a mixed 703 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: merge of it. Because the modeling industry is also a 704 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: very tough industry to get started in if you're someone 705 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: who's just you know, beginning and doesn't have like a 706 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: social presence behind it. And I know, there's like a 707 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: lot of back and forth because a lot of content 708 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: creators have switched over and you know, gotten into the 709 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: modeling space. And I mean it's it's a very competitive industry. 710 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: I mean social media, there's so many opportunities for so 711 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: many people to work and that's why I love it 712 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: modeling is not as much. It's like you're all fighting 713 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: basically for the same jobs. What I personally loved about 714 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: the show this year is that they had such an 715 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: array of talent of people. They brought a bunch of 716 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: girls back, but they also had a bunch of new 717 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: faces and girls who are just strictly models, and I 718 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: personally love that. 719 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, you guys. 720 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: Are pretty absolutely and I think there's a space for everyone. 721 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: I think with modeling, you're taught to not have a 722 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: personality and you're taught just to be there and to 723 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: make people happy and to like go home. And I 724 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: think because I have the social media, people already know 725 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: what kind of my personality is. So when I come 726 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: on to say, it's not like I'm out of pocket. 727 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: Like being like my happy safe which is really fun. 728 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's really really fun. 729 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Okay, what are we manifesting for twenty twenty five? 730 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: Genuinely? Like happiness? Like can I know that's different to 731 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 3: everyone and everyone measures their success and their own ways, 732 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: but like being able to slow down and just be 733 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: like grateful for everything. I think a lot of people 734 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 3: don't do that enough because being happy and content with 735 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: what you have is so important and it's something that 736 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: I think every single person should have in their heart. 737 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: So I think that is what I'm excited about, is 738 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: just like sharing my life with people who love the 739 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: same things that I love and just want to be 740 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: good humans because like we were talking about, we need 741 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: more of those. 742 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I love that. I agree. 743 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I think with social media get like the dopamine rush 744 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: of like one great thing happening and then kind of 745 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: being like, Okay, what's the next thing? 746 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like you don't need to look at 747 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: it like that. It's like you did one great thing, 748 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: like congratulate yourself, like feel happy about it. Like just 749 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: because the next day something else is happening to someone 750 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: else doesn't mean that you should be like, oh my god, 751 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: wait wait wait now I need to do something again. No, 752 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: be happy with yourself. Be proud of yourself. I think 753 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: our generation is not proud of ourselves enough. We are 754 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: taught to not like ourselves basically, and I don't like that, 755 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like kind of trying to, you know, learn 756 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: how to not do that. 757 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: Confidence is so important and you see it with girls 758 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: like yourself. You see it with girls like Alex Cansani. 759 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: I just love seeing the confidence empowering. 760 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: And exactly so, yeah, having confidence is truly the most 761 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: attractive thing about someone in my opinion, and I'm. 762 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: Like, we just need to all embody that a little bit. 763 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: Okay, well, Olivia, thank you so freaking much. You're amazing. 764 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: I am so excited to see everything that you go 765 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: on to do. 766 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: Maybe I will get back and trunning. Yeah, maybe not.