1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm definitely open to new talent, to young talent, to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: anybody who's willing to showcase their craft. It's an art, 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: it's a craft, and I respect the hell of it. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: I'm not just going to be looking for the biggest 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: guys and the most famous you know, chicks out there. 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: I'll give opportunities to other people. You obviously need to have, 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, a stable of well established people, but you 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: got to have the future there too, otherwise you're going 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: to miss out on it. 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: In other words, stay tuned to this damn podcast every 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: single week. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: Shouts that hit the fair? Welcome to on sanctioned Thursdays, Astling. 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: What Fready? 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays. Today's episode is 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: a continuation of Wednesdays where we take your questions and 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: we answer them last week or not last week, but 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday's episode. Whenever you're listening to this. They debut 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, took questions from the Instagram people. This week 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: we're taking voicemails. Voicemails, I get to hear your voice 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: and respond to you, and I'll try to be as 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: funny as theovonn that's not going to happen. I don't 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: know if you've heard Devon if you know who he is, 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: but he used to take voicemails on his podcast. I 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: don't think he does it anymore, and they were some 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: of the most amazing segments in the world. This will 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: not compare to that, but I'll do my best. 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: Hey, Freddie, Jeff and Alex mimes m I'm from Australia 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: though I just moved to Ohio this year with my family. 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: My question for you guys is about storylines. WWE just 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: created two new women's titles, but I feel like they 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: should be creating storylines. I think AW have this problem 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: as well. Why is Damian Priesce wrestling Gunt again? Why 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: is Finn still attacking Priest? Why does Tiffany still have 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: that bloody briefcase? Where is Wardlow? Where is Ricky Starks? Like, 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: I just don't care about Mercedes one A right now, 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: but I feel like I should. The Wire Sex are 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: another example. I feel like that all show and no delivery. 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: You know one idea could have target everyone who ever 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: beat bray Wyatt, but don't tell the audience right away. 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: Have us try and figure it out and have them 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: cost people matches at meaningful moments. Maybe it's the sorry 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: bo trying to overcome grief. Maybe he keeps losing matches 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: because he sees like a bray whitatt, you know, sign 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: in the crowd, or maybe carrying cross like pulls out 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: of masks just to taunt him, and you know he 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: finally conquers his grief. I don't know, I'm pulling these 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: out of my bum but, like, is it harder than 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: I think it is to come up with ideas that land? 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: Obviously there are good stories right now, but it just 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: seems like there are too many that fall flat or 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: feel samey. If you agree that there's issues here, like, 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: how would you fix it? Is it up to the 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: talent or the creative team? 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Emma, thank you for the voicemail. Appreciate you very very much. 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: First of first things, First, you already moved to Ohio. 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: You might as well write all these ideas down and 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: send them to WWE and try to get onto the 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: creative team. They have an open door policy with resumes 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: and they hire people off the streets, at least they 61 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: did when I work there. I'm sure they still do 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: to say degree because you have good ideas and you 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: should try to get them hurt by more people than 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: just me and Jeff. So I agree with you pretty 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: much on everything, all right? Where the hell is Ricky Starks? 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Where the hell is Wardlow? Why don't they have stories 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: they don't have to fight for belts? I believe belts 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: are a superficial way to help someone get over who's 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: not that good on the mic. I don't know why 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes they put the people who are the best on 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: the mic in title run stories because they don't need that. 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: They can fight over other things and see impunk proved 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: when they were fighting over a risk. Band talent does 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: not have the power to fix it unless they're at 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: the highest of levels. If you say no and you're 76 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: a mid level talent to a story, that could be 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: the last story you ever get, because you're hurting the 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: feelings and the egos and the pride of insecure people 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: that exists in every walk of life. So it's on 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: the creative team to They may be coming up with 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: just as many stories as you have, and just as 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: many solutions as you have, and just as many ideas 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: as you have, but they're not getting past the people 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: who say yes. And that exists in Hollywood and the 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: television level, on the film level, it exists in wrestling. 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I know, I hear a lot of criticism of writers 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: from you know, like YouTubers and want to be like 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: TikTok critic critics and things like that, where they just 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: don't understand how the business works. Like the studios call 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: the agencies. The agencies represent the artists. So the studio 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: calls the agency and says, here's the type of movies 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: we're looking for. Do your writers have anything in this world? 93 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: And that world is intellectual properties, things that have already 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: been created, that already have a built in audience. Because 95 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: they don't know how to market movies anymore. They don't 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: know how to build stars anymore. The music business will 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: not sign you an agent. You will not sign you 98 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: unless you have a million followers and you've done all 99 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: the work on your own and you've already turned yourself 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: into a star because they no longer know how or 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: they know how, but they know that it's an investment. 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: And they're all run by corporations now which are all 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: risk adverse and want zero investment with the maximum return possible. 104 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: That's why they invest in intellectual properties. It's why you 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: see Rocky two storyline or Rocky three storylines on Monday 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Night Raw and NXT. Is they're taking something that's already 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: been liked by people and they're putting it out there again. 108 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to get an original idea through. The 109 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: bloodline is just the Hurt Business reformed into simons, like 110 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 1: that's what that story was. Now, they did it great, 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: but that story existed already. It existed, and it existed 112 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: before the Hurt Business existed. It was another group before that, 113 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: and before that group, it was another group before. It's 114 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: a storyline that has worked a ton. They turned it 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: into fans, which turned it into the Godfather, which is cool, 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: that's relatable. Everybody got that, So I hear what you're saying. 117 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: But it's not always on creative because a lot of 118 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: times the bosses and the powers that be have their 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: own plan, their own agenda that's not as well thought out. 120 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just in theme, but they're going to go 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: with that theme as opposed to going with your idea 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: that's written out and scripted out and all that. And 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: it happens in every form of life and it's really 124 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: frustrating for audiences. I get that. Imagine how frustrating it 125 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: is for the artists involved in it when your ideas 126 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: are constantly getting shut down or you're getting told not yet, 127 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: or yeah, we like that story, but we like it 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: for this talent, not the talent you were thinking of. Meanwhile, 129 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: you're like, I'd have to write a whole new story 130 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: because this was written specifically for talent A, not talent B. 131 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: And they were raised differently. They like different movies, they 132 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: listen to different music, they like different food, They're completely 133 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: different people. So there's a lot that goes into it. 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: You kind of, at a certain point learn to exist 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: within it and stop trying to change it and just 136 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: stay as true to yourself and your own art as 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: you can. But I hear what you're saying, and I 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: think everything you said, you know, as far as your criticism, 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: is completely legit, And I think you have good ideas, 140 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: So you should write them down and you should start 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: submitting stuff to wrestling companies as soon as possible. That's 142 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: the long version of what most people will call an 143 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: answer to your question. 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: And Emma is awesome. Long time follower of the show 145 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: keeps up with everything, and it's always nice to us 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: online and giving us all the praise and talking wrestling. 147 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks Emma. 148 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: This next one's coming up from Richie C. 149 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: All right, Richie, let's see what you have to say. 150 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: Huge fan of the show. I really appreciate all you 151 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: guys do. Love the relationship between Freddie and Jeff. I 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: actually have a non wrestling question for Freddie. I'm a 153 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: huge admirer of your dad's stand up. I'm a fellow 154 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: Latino artists as well, and he's a huge inspiration to me. 155 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: I was curious if there has ever been any talk 156 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: of doing some sort of documentary or something that you 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: were in charge of to honor your father and show 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: the rest of this new generation how special he was. 159 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. First of all, your name's Richie. I know 160 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: you're Latino bro, and the first thing I was gonna 161 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: yell was Richie. Yo, man, thanks so much for the 162 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: love to my dad. I really really appreciate that. You know, 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: I've never talked about this before. I can talk about 164 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: it a little. There was an idea in the works 165 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: at Warner Brothers to do my dad's story, but the 166 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: people involved were super flaky and not focused that not 167 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: all of them, but two of the main people involved. 168 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: It was more I think a pet project for them 169 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: than something they were super passionate about. When they approached me. 170 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: They had tons of passion, right, and it seemed like 171 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: this was on the forefront of their brain. But nobody 172 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: would talk to them because everybody loved my dad and 173 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: wanted to protect my dad and wanted me to make 174 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: wanted them to make sure that it was a positive 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: project and not like a hit piece or they just 176 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: talk about drugs. Right. So I was involved for a 177 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: little bit, and I helped them get access to all 178 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: these people, people like Pam Greer, who's basically like my godmother. 179 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: People like Paul Williams, who I call Uncle Paul. He's 180 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: a president of ASCAP still to this day. Famous musician 181 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: from back in the day wrote The Rainbow Connection, which 182 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: everybody knows all these people. My dad's best friend was 183 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Jay Leno. They taught my dad how to drive like 184 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: None of these people would have even spoken to them 185 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: under any circumstances had I not made it clear that 186 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: this was going to be a positive piece, or at 187 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: least I had been convinced that it was, and then 188 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: once I got them all those names, I just stopped 189 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: hearing from them all together, and they were like making 190 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: moves without me. I'd find out like weeks later there 191 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: was already a script here and this that, and I 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even get to read it. And 193 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: it was only because one of the people involved, who's 194 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: a decent guy, called me and told me what was 195 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: going on, assuming that I was in the loop. And 196 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: I was not in the loop. So I quickly squashed 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: that and made sure that nobody else spoke to them, 198 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: and those people will never speak to those two gentlemen 199 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: ever the fuck again. And they were big time players 200 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and I'm sure they're you know, I'm sure 201 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: they've been a hero to someone that they've had a 202 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: meeting with, but they certainly weren't that with me. And 203 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm still waiting for a call on if 204 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: there's a script done or not. And this is like 205 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: two years ago, so maybe they will, but yeah, so 206 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't. It left such a sour taste in my mouth. 207 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I would go down that road again. 208 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: At least it wouldn't be with my permission, and they 209 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't have access to any of the people who actually 210 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: knew my dad, So it would just be a fraudulent 211 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of fake thing if anybody ever made because all 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: those people respect my family too much to go on 213 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: the record. There's guys like you know that just need 214 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the attention and want to be involved that would say 215 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: they were friends with my dad when they probably just 216 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: like partied and did coke with them once or twice. 217 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: But that would be the only story they'd be able 218 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: to contribute. They wouldn't be able to tell you who 219 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: my father was in any way, shape or form. So yeah, 220 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: it did almost happen once, but it kind of it 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: fell apart because things weren't handled correctly. And I don't 222 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, they tried to remake the show years ago, 223 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't give the approval for that because it 224 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: just looked like they were just it was for a 225 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: money gig, like they were just trying to cash in 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: on what my dad, you know, helped create and help 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: make special. So yeah, we debted that too, Yeah, don't 228 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe if the right people came along, 229 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: it would have to be it have to be people 230 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: that I already had a relationship with that I already know, 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: so that I know exactly what kind of human beings 232 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: they are and I know what kind of business they do. 233 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: It wouldn't there wouldn't be a stranger on this planet 234 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: that would convince me they're the one that's going to 235 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: do it. I would just say no. It would have 236 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: to be somebody that I that I have a relationship 237 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: with already. So there you go, man, that you asked 238 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: the right question and you got the first time I've 239 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: ever talked about it in the history of my life. 240 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: That's interesting, man, that's the first time I had a 241 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: good job. 242 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: Richie. 243 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: I don't know you, but man, Richie, I'm gonna believe 244 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: myself off with that. On Hold on, this one's coming 245 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: in from Wayne. 246 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: Hey, Freddy, I'm a huge fan of your podcast. I 247 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: love the fact that you're pursuing your own wrestling company. 248 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 5: My question is, would you consider a partnership with AEW 249 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 5: one that would allow you to use some of their 250 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: talent from AW to help get your company started and 251 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: exchange you and some of your celect already family and 252 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 5: friends would make appearances at AAW Paper View and Dynamite 253 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: to help them develop a stronger image to the entertainment 254 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: world and possibly in the future do some shows and 255 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: storylines together. 256 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you for the question, Wayne, 257 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and one hundred percent Yeah, definitely be 258 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: open to working with, you know, just about anybody that's 259 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: willing to do business. And if AAW wanted to have 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: that kind of a partnership the way they they've established 261 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: with other independent promotions, then yeah. And I've had conversations 262 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: with with wrestlers from all over that if they were 263 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: available and could would be, would be down to help 264 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: and see what we're trying to do. But again, I 265 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: have to get far enough down the road that it's real. 266 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm just wasting people's time. You know. I've hit 267 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: some speed bumps that have sent me backwards down the 268 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: road a bit, and I'm having to kind of not 269 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: start from scratch, but damn near scratch. So yeah, I 270 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: definitely would be open to doing a partnership with AW 271 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: or there's that many people out there. Awwww. I don't 272 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: know about WW, but for sure with AW. 273 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: Very nice that that concludes our our voicemails. I do 274 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: have about two minutes left, so I want to just 275 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: run by for you. These quick rapid fire questions that 276 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: you could just you know, answer if you don't mind, Freddy, 277 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: we had so many people are afraid to talk, I 278 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: think and put their voice out there. But thank you, Emma, Richie. 279 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: In Big Wayne Man not little Way. 280 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on The Ultimate Warrior? This is 281 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: from David. He says, I always liked his character. 282 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: So The Ultimate Warrior was like the first wrestler interaction 283 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: I ever had. When I was a little kid, and 284 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I was in Albuquerque, New Mexico at Tingley Coliseum, which 285 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: is where they did rodeos, and it literally had dirt floors, 286 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: and a bunch of kids ran up. They were doing 287 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: a battle Royal or Royal Rumbles, so I can't remember, 288 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I was in third grade. It was like forty years ago. 289 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: They all ran down to the guardrail. So I asked 290 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: my mom if I could run down too, and she 291 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: said yeah. So I ran down to the guardrail and 292 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: the wrestlers were coming out to get in the ring 293 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: and start the match. Here comes the Ultimate Warrior and 294 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody so jacked in my life. And 295 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: he's walking by and out of all the kids that 296 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: the security could have hassled, they hassled me, and I 297 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: just feel this meat hilt just right on the back 298 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: of my neck. You got to get out of here, 299 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: and I'm scared to death. I'm like eight years old, man, 300 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna leave and I'm pretty upset, and literally, 301 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: the Ultimate Warrior. You hear him yell out, it's okay, 302 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: you can stay, and he was right next to me. 303 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I looked over and it was The Ultimate Warrior and 304 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: he smelled like baby oil, sweat and dirt, that's how 305 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: close he was. And he had the bicycle tassels on 306 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: his biceps and I could have reached out and touched him, 307 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and the security guy fucking let go because he was 308 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: afraid of the Ultimate Warrior and would do anything the 309 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Ultimate Warrior said. And I got to sit there and 310 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: watch all the wrestlers come out before they got in 311 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: the ring and started the match. So that was my 312 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: first experience with him. As I got older and started 313 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: watching his matches, I started not liking The Ultimate Warrior 314 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: because his matches weren't very good and he didn't really 315 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: know how to wrestle the way I liked wrestlers to wrestle. 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: He had like a move and that was it, and 317 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: so as I got older, I didn't think he was 318 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: very cool and I didn't know much about him outside 319 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, as a kid, I thought he 320 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: was a cool guy because he saved my ass, and 321 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: as a grown up, I was like, man, maybe I 322 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: was wrong. Maybe it's not that from. 323 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: The wrestling realms of the w W. Remember those promos 324 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: that he would do, like just yeah, man, this second one. 325 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: They were so random, promos never made sense, not one 326 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: of them made. 327 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: So they're better than the Steiner promo with the Math. 328 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: This was coming from mister Gercia Math. Will you have 329 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: open tryouts from when your wrestling promotion gets started. 330 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: I'll have opportunities for a lot of people when when 331 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: they come in. I've had a lot of people reach 332 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: out to me on Instagram. I may not have responded 333 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: to all of them, but I've responded to a bunch 334 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: and said, hey, when you hear about me getting this 335 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: shit green lit, hit me up, man, and if there's 336 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: something for you, I'll give you an opportunity to come work. 337 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: And if I click with what you're doing, we'll find 338 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: something for you on the show. And if I don't, 339 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you to keep working. I'll let you 340 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: know what I didn't respond to. So yeah, one hundred percent. 341 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm definitely open to new talent, to young talent, to 342 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: anybody who's willing to showcase their craft. It's an art, 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: it's a craft, and I respect the hell of it. 344 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm not just going to be looking for the biggest 345 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: guys and the most famous, you know, chicks out there. 346 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: I'll give opportunities to other people. You obviously need to have, 347 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, a stable of well established people, but you 348 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: got to have the future there too, otherwise you're going 349 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: to miss out on it. 350 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: In other words, stay tuned to this damn podcast every 351 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: single week. You don't want to miss it. Now, this 352 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: next one, really quick, We've got about a minute left. 353 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: Is Jack Pot Jeff Die having his debut match when 354 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: the Fieration debuts on TV. 355 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Hell no, that's the only old open tryout that gets 356 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: next is the Jackpod Jeff Die. First of all, he'll 357 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: get injured right away. He's in his forties now, it's 358 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: not gonna happen, and he can focus more on the 359 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: interview or the pre show or post show, or if 360 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: he learns the name of the moves and he starts 361 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: saying Solo Socoa instead of Sequoia. Then he can do 362 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: some announcing, but he's got to get the name right 363 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: otherwise it turns into Mike Adamley and we got Jeff 364 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Harvey instead of Jeff Hardy, and then everybody hates you 365 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, which Jeff might actually like. 366 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: So you'd probably screw the names up on purpose, jamaking 367 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: me crazy. Kofe Oh. When Mike Adamley said that on 368 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: NXT in whatever year that was, I thought I was 369 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna jump off for I had to you guys, listen 370 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: to this and we'll close the show with this. I'm 371 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: the guy that basically told Mike Adamley he was fired 372 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: from WWE. They gave me this segment. He was not 373 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: doing a good job. He just couldn't keep up with 374 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: the moves and the characters' names and their finishes, and 375 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: every week just major, not little screw ups, like major 376 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: screw ups. And I felt so bad for the guy. 377 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: It just wasn't the right He did so great with 378 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: American Gladiators, like he was the man on that. He 379 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: was so good on it, and it was just the 380 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: opposite effect on this. He just didn't click it didn't work, 381 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: and they have it they were going to fire him 382 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: that that night, and they gave him this one last 383 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: segment where Randy Orton disrespects him so bad that he 384 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: slaps Randy Orton across the face and he strikes a 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: WW talent and that's why he's gonna get fired. And 386 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: so I have to bring this segment to him, knowing 387 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: that they're firing him, right, and Vince is like laughing 388 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, come on, man, don't make me 389 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: do this. And he's like, ah, like he's just he 390 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: took so much joy and entertainment and the suffering of others. 391 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: And so I gulped at his dude, and I go, hey, man, 392 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: you were ready to work on the segment. He goes, yeah, 393 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: I read, I read the script. Am I am I 394 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: getting fired? And I was just like, oh my god, dude, 395 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: Like what do I say? Like in my head, I'm like, well, 396 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: you never know what could happen, Like you know, it 397 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: could turn into something, And then in my heart I 398 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: just it basically said yeah, man, it doesn't it doesn't 399 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: look good. And he was just like oh shit. And 400 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like fuck you guys for making me 401 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: do this because everybody knew he would know, you know 402 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, that's not my job. Man, I'm 403 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: not human resources. I'm not I don't deal with talent 404 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: like that, Like, that's not my job. Was just a 405 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: writer and a segment producer. And I'm having to tell 406 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: this guy that, like this job's over. And I felt 407 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: so bad. And granted he did not do a good job, 408 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: like I think he would even admit that and acknowledge that. 409 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to like talk shit. This happened 410 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: years and years and years ago. It was just such 411 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: a tough spot, man for him. Randy knew it was 412 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: a tough spot for Randy, and having to deliver the 413 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: news was just like, you know, it's not as bad 414 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: as a doctor coming out and saying, hey, your son 415 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't make it. But as far as what I've had 416 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: to experience in my profession, that was what that moment 417 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: represented to me. So yeah, so there you go. Man. 418 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how we got on that, but we 419 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: got on that all right. Boys and girls, Thank you 420 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Happy holidays, see you next week. Peace. 421 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. 422 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 423 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.