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Speaker 3: Oh man, do we have a Monday show? Baby?

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Speaker 1: Here we go. We're live. We're in Chicago. They win

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Speaker 1: football playoff games in this city. Baby, It's the Herd

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Speaker 1: wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for making us part of your day. The city is buzzy,

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Speaker 1: should be. I gotta be honest, I'm so glad Philly

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Speaker 1: lost that their tushes got pushed out of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: because the NFL playoffs are about the best coach and

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks, and Philly has neither.

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Speaker 3: They don't have either.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is, let's talk Niners from the opening drive

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Speaker 1: to the perfectly time trick play, to their ingenuity to

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Speaker 1: their efficiency on third down. Kyle Shanahan is using c

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Speaker 1: pons and buying a month full of groceries for forty

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Speaker 1: eight bucks, and I feel like Sirianni hit the lottery

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Speaker 1: and he's broke two years later. San Francisco is totally resourceful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, Nick Sirianni gets two picks,

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Speaker 1: a twenty seven yard punt by the Niners.

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Speaker 3: George Kittle gets hurt, You're at.

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Speaker 1: Home and this year in the second half, all year,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia averages nine points in the second half, including the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: twenty six in the league, twenty six and second half yards.

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Speaker 1: There's no creativity, and I think Philadelphia, like a poorly

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Speaker 1: coached team, is getting worse over time. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: the one thing I'll say about Philly is that their

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Speaker 1: run defense was great, But that's Vic Fangio. Everything I

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Speaker 1: liked about the Eagles was Vic Fangio.

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Speaker 3: Think about this.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's six highest paid players missed sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: the snaps. How in the hell are they thirteen and five?

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Speaker 1: How are they winning these games? And I've been critical

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Speaker 1: of Brock pretty but you know what, short memory, couple

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Speaker 1: of bad picks, one really bad, did not matter, great

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Speaker 1: final drive, big throws, didn't have George Kittle second quarter

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Speaker 1: on didn't always have the greatest protection. There was pressure

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Speaker 1: and let's be honest about Jalen Hurts. He's pretty consistently

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Speaker 1: ineffective in the pocket. Greg Cosel's been telling us us

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Speaker 1: for years. Tom Brady on the broadcast sedit, why are

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Speaker 1: you rolling out? He's rolling out because he can't see

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Speaker 1: because he's too small. And so again, that playoffs, to

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Speaker 1: me are about Shanahan and Roberts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Shanahan's a wizard. That opening drive, I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa is that? And that trick

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Speaker 1: play wasn't like a hooking lateral in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: That's a big boy trick play reversus receiver throwing deep.

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Speaker 1: For three and a half hours, you saw coaching. Whenever

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Speaker 1: a coach makes like fifteen million a year, people are like,

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Speaker 1: whoa coaching's overrated. Exhibit A of why it's not. That

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Speaker 1: was a coaching mismatch. One coach was Chat GPT and

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Speaker 1: the other was Crayons. That wasn't even close. So the

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Speaker 1: Eagles are boring, They're not creative. They've got an unbelievable roster,

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Speaker 1: but forty percent of their drives yesterday, we're three and out.

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Speaker 1: They Philadelphia led the NFL in percentage of three and

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Speaker 1: outs how A J. Brown, Devon day Smith, Dallas Goddard,

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Speaker 1: sa Quon Barkley, get out of here, Get that tush

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Speaker 1: pushed out of here. And by the way, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear about Sirianni boys great in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: He is great putting a fence around this team. He

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Speaker 1: barketed A. J. Brown great again on the sidelines. Come on,

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Speaker 1: you got to grow up at some point. So I

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Speaker 1: just to me, the NFL playoffs are about quarterback play, efficiency, ingenuity, overcoming, resourcefulness,

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Speaker 1: and that all came outside of Vic Fangio from one side.

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Speaker 1: So and I don't want to hear about what a

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Speaker 1: great manager he is. I don't buy it. Part of managing.

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Speaker 1: I mean you staying what you want about certain coaches

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Speaker 1: in this league. But a lot of the top offensive coaches,

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, their teams are great

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Speaker 3: That's what they are.

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Speaker 1: All I know is the better quarterback played, the better coaching,

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Speaker 3: Was all on San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Forty four year old Philip Rivers, five years out of retirement,

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Speaker 1: year and forty four year old Philip Rivers had more points,

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Speaker 1: passing yards and was better on third down than Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts Nick Sarian, he was against this Niner defense. How

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Speaker 1: is that possible? It's possible because the best coaches change outcomes,

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Speaker 1: not just field position. That was Wizardry Shanahan put on

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Speaker 3: They want to hear Shanny after proud of the guys,

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Speaker 3: how hard they battled.

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Speaker 4: And I'll just kind of staying in there. Having two

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Speaker 4: guys playing that whole game and playing at a high

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Speaker 4: level was so impressive. To find a way to win

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Speaker 4: that game. We thought it would be a grimy game,

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Speaker 4: it to be that way. And then you know that

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Speaker 4: last drive. You know some of the places Juice made

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Speaker 4: a couple of mistakes, obviously with his two picks and stuff,

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Speaker 4: but to come back on that last drive get us

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Speaker 4: It gets like a third guy in his progression on

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Speaker 3: Real proud of the guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've defended Darnold's bad pick, Stafford's bad picks.

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Speaker 1: I've got to be fair. What do you do after

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Speaker 1: the pick? You go into a shell to body language,

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Speaker 1: get bad brock party on the road, No, kiddle, lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure and they weren't getting a lot of yards

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Fangio did a great job, great run defense. Iny,

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Speaker 1: I know Jennings may have had the best throw of

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Speaker 1: anybody on the field, but that is what coaching looks like. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Bears, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying the pope being from Chicago is why the Bears

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Speaker 1: are winning. But there's a there's a correlation causation thing

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Speaker 1: we need to discuss because I don't seventh win after

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Speaker 1: trailing in the fourth quarter. And when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I've gotten to the point where I just

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Speaker 1: I not that I want to be like a ice

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Speaker 1: cream for breakfast parent, but it's hard scolding him. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's completion percentages a little low. Yeah, whatever, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, he does miss some layups, yeah, but just

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Speaker 1: see the ones in the end.

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Speaker 3: It's got a Steph Curry vibe. I don't want anybody

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Speaker 1: Shooting thirty four footers accept Steph Curry when he's on

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Speaker 1: a heater and then it's like.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's different rules for him.

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Speaker 1: I feel like with Caleb, look at this.

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Speaker 3: Throw, it's just different rules.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy at the lowest completion percentage of

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Speaker 3: What do you want me to do? I'm gonna bend

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Speaker 1: You know. You hear about all the time gifted kids,

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Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes they can be really unique personalities.

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Speaker 1: And it's like watching the Gifted Child where Okay, he

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Speaker 1: puts his pants on backwards at twelve, but he's taking

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Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?

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Speaker 1: He's different. Caleb's special. I heard all the scouts. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know he's moody a little bit. Well, he can

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Speaker 1: be erratic, yeah, regularly. Well the fingernails painting, he's a

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Speaker 3: Not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: All I know is I'm watching these fourth quarters and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Steph Curry. I don't want anybody else

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Speaker 3: I don't want.

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Speaker 1: Anybody else with a fifty seven percent completion percentage over

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna live with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's supposed to do. That second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean he made he made Jordan Love, really talented guy,

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Speaker 1: look incredibly pedestrian. I said it last night in my podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is a little John Elway, there's a little Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of Caleb Williams. And here's the thing

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Speaker 1: all great quarterbacks. When people say, well he's got Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson did not have his best performance. I thought

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleuur out coached him, especially in the first half,

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Speaker 1: which is the coach's half. Second half is the baller half,

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Speaker 1: first half, the coaching half, half, the scripted half. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think Ben Johnson had a very good game by

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson Sandard, I think a little desperate, a little

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Speaker 1: too cute too often.

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Speaker 3: But every so.

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Speaker 1: When people say, well Ben Johnson's been special, I'm not

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Speaker 1: denying that. Akee Benet, Jimmy Johnson, foutsed Airic Coriel, Brady Belichick,

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Speaker 3: Everybody's got Marino, Shula lay Shanny.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about that because I didn't

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Speaker 1: think Ben Johnson had one of his better games. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this, every quarterback also has flaws. Manning

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Speaker 1: didn't have a huge arm, Mahomes and his mechanics. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady not a great athlete. Yeah, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Caleb misses too many layups. Man that ball sales on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's what you do. What do you produce to

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Speaker 1: mitigate or overcome your flaw. I mean, Jimmy Hendrix had

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Speaker 1: to occasionally miss a note, right, It's not just about

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Speaker 1: the floor. It's got to be about the ceiling. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching him in the fourth quarter. And

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Speaker 1: you know what's great if you're from Chicago, the Bears

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Speaker 1: finally have real leadership. Monday through Friday it's Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and Sunday it's Caleb and Poplio. Because I don't really

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Speaker 1: know exactly how to explain it that Caleb can really

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Speaker 1: be out of sync missus notes in the first half

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Speaker 1: and then be a combination of the greatest stuff I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in the fourth. Here's Caleb after.

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Speaker 2: Well you got right here, Marshwayolden.

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Speaker 5: Where everything he's done for us as a coach, everything

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Speaker 5: the other coaches have done for us, you know, and

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Speaker 5: it started with him with bringing in everybody and the

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Speaker 5: emotions that right.

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Speaker 3: And for me personally, For me.

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Speaker 5: Personally, he's been, uh say, getting emotional for me personally,

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Speaker 5: he's been monumental in my life so far to his

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Speaker 5: first playoff win.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's that Caleb guy. He's getting very emotional. How

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Speaker 1: do you not get emotional? I'm watching it on television.

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Speaker 3: I'm emotional.

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Speaker 1: I just moved to Chicago. I'm emotional. How do you

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Speaker 1: not get emotional? This stuff's I mean it's video game stuff.

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Speaker 1: That throw he made with five minutes left up the sideline,

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Speaker 1: three packers around him. I'm never say anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that is a top four or five

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Speaker 1: throw of my life like this one. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at us throw. It doesn't make any sense, rolling right,

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Speaker 1: throwing left. Huh, I don't bull get in there. We

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Speaker 1: got it from this forew that doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 1: That again, that's one of those videos of Steph Curry

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Speaker 3: Oh great I had. It was a bloodbath. Couldn't pick

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Speaker 6: I thought, I still can't get over this. Packers lost, Colin.

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Speaker 3: They just they can't put you. They're beyond themselves right now?

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Speaker 1: How do you?

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Speaker 6: Jordan Love was incredible in that four touchdowns, three hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Matthew Golden has been banged up

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Speaker 3: Watch out?

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Speaker 6: He just regarding tonight Colin. Fortunately one of us will

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Speaker 3: I have no Maybe it ends in a tie. That possible.

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Speaker 3: Just amazing weekend. Huh.

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Speaker 1: You may have noticed the NFL playoffs were just fine

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Speaker 3: That's what he looks like. The guy's all banged up.

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Speaker 1: Ever again, because you know what's going to happen is

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Speaker 3: Gonna go guy named Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I find that Buffalo is impossible, not the root for

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Speaker 1: I watched Josh Allen, I'm like, this is and and

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Speaker 3: That is one oh one. What he does.

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Speaker 3: Here's Josh after the win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that when you're on the field with Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: Like that is that is what a weekend?

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Speaker 1: I mean we saw everything great coaching, shaky coaching, tenuous

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the news, Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 6: Let's go to college football.

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Speaker 3: We haven't talked about.

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Speaker 6: The Indiana just destruction of Oregon what and mauling that

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Speaker 6: I don't hear anybody doubting after the five tuddies he

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Speaker 3: I mean these are darts. The guy was incredible.

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Speaker 6: Colin, everything right on target. He has now gone five

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Speaker 6: Yet he's ever the superstar that afterward he wanted to

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Speaker 9: I would say, I've came a long way from you know,

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Speaker 9: It's like, hey, you don't got to be Superman. We

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Speaker 9: glad those results of came. However, none of that matters.

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Speaker 9: All that matters right now is National Championship.

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Speaker 1: It's the most fishing offense, it's the best tackling defense,

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Speaker 3: There's no hole here.

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Speaker 1: Like I had said, I thought Indiana would win because

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Speaker 1: Beck has been how many National champion That's be his

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Speaker 3: But it's hard to root.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to see a team that doesn't make mistakes losing.

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Speaker 3: They're so efficient.

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Speaker 6: Interestingly, there's some comparisons out there Mendoza to Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: Unbelievably, the numbers are kind of similar.

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Speaker 6: Both offenses are doing some just ridiculous things. Are you

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Speaker 3: No, it's like a big number. Yeah, but I mean again,

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Speaker 1: Beat Ohio State, hammered Alabama, embarrasses Oregon. This is here's

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Speaker 1: what I don't get. You watch Dante more in, Fernando

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Speaker 6: We'll talk about Mendoza more in a second.

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's like, settle down, folks.

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Speaker 1: Mendoza is I'm not saying he's Andrew Lucker Elway. He

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are big time throws in huge games.

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Speaker 3: Colin.

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Speaker 6: I know people are looking for an NFL comp for Mendoza,

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Speaker 6: and I'll just say this, the poise in the pocket,

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Speaker 6: the ball placement, the accuracy. I see a young Tom

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Speaker 6: Brady in his pinpoint accuracy.

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Speaker 8: Colin.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's gonna win a million.

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Speaker 6: Super Bowls and be the best quarterback ever, but in

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Speaker 6: terms of like just structure in the pocket and delivering

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Speaker 6: the football, he's doing it as well as anybody I've

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Speaker 6: seen in forever. I mean, this guy really is incredible. Now,

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Speaker 6: when it comes to Dante Moore, I'm sure you saw

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Speaker 6: the news this morning, Dylan Rayola that Patrick Mahomes look

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Speaker 6: alike who was at Nebraska, he has committed to Oregon.

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Speaker 6: He is now waiting to find out what Dante Moore does.

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Speaker 6: But it's interesting that he doesn't care what Dante Moore does.

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Speaker 6: NFL or stays Dylan Raila wants to compete for the

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Speaker 6: job next year. And I'll say this, Dante Moore Colin.

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Speaker 6: That was a forgettable You watch that and you're like,

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Speaker 6: NFL really, I mean, how many fumbles did he have?

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Speaker 6: The interception on the first play of the game. He

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Speaker 6: does not look NFL ready to be I mean, assuming

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Speaker 6: you agree.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he should go and sit. But he'll

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Speaker 1: go to a crappy team and be forced to play

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Speaker 1: at twenty years old like the Jets, and will ruin

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Speaker 1: his career. So I think Indiana makes everybody look bad.

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Speaker 1: Tys Simpson's not terrible. Guess who made him look terrible? Indiana, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Georgia made a lot of players look bad when they

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Speaker 1: were in Kirby Smart's you know, four years ago. They

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Speaker 1: necessarily weren't bad players.

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put too much of Dante Moore's career into

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Speaker 1: that start.

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Speaker 6: Great against Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: The game before is.

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Speaker 1: Well, Texas Tech again is a great defense. So you

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Speaker 1: would tell him, I would say, stay in school. I

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Speaker 1: think Dante Moore needs another fifty starts with good players.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, all right, let's go to the NFL last night.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Mike Chargers, Big Egg offensively did not show up.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't do a damn thing.

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Speaker 6: Patriots. They were not great either, is a bit of

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Speaker 6: a defensive struggle. Patriots did have a few big plays.

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Speaker 6: Drake May I don't know how even how you characterize

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Speaker 6: his performance. He had a couple of good throws, but

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Speaker 6: took way too many sacks. Yeah, you know, after the game,

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Speaker 6: make credit the defense as the driving force for the win.

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Speaker 3: Proud of this team.

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Speaker 10: You know, we would never feel like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 10: we never doubted it. We never doubted it. You know,

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Speaker 10: it didn't look you know, it wasn't pretty, that's for sure.

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Speaker 10: But this defense was so fun to watch. No congrats

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Speaker 10: to them, it was it was so fun to watch

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Speaker 10: they they won the game for us. I didn't throw

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Speaker 10: O very well to night, and no need to be better,

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Speaker 10: but you know we we did what we had to

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Speaker 10: do and that's what takes the playoffs. And just proud

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Speaker 10: of this team.

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Speaker 11: That was fun.

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Speaker 10: Man, that was fun to get one at home and

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Speaker 10: look forward me back here next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen Peyton Manning's first three playoff games,

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Speaker 1: he completed forty seven percent of his throws because he

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Speaker 1: didn't have great stuff around him and he was young,

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Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert's completing fifty four percent in his first

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Speaker 1: three playoff games. He's struggling. But I said this Friday

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Speaker 1: because all week this was your pick, and I kept saying,

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Speaker 1: you cannot go on the road with a thirty second

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Speaker 1: best offensive line and win. It has to be like

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Speaker 1: thirteen to ten. You block a punt, you hit a

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Speaker 1: bunch of field goals.

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Speaker 3: You can't. I mean they're on a third.

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Speaker 1: Back backups to backups on the offensive line. Herbert hasn't

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Speaker 1: played well and he has.

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Speaker 3: To own it.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, I go back to Peyton Manning's

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Speaker 1: early playoff career. He was dreadful and then Peyton ends

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Speaker 1: up being, you know, in the end, as good as

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Speaker 1: anything we've seen. So you know, New England's the better team,

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Speaker 1: the healthier team. They're at home. Drake May was fine

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Speaker 1: for his first playoff appearance. I mean, I thought he

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Speaker 1: was fine. They also have Will Campbell, a real left

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Speaker 1: tackle who is you know, it matters when you have

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Speaker 1: a starting, high end left tackle and you have a backup,

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Speaker 1: it matters.

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Speaker 6: But of the three first time playoff quarterbacks this weekend,

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Speaker 6: Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, and Drake May, I think Drake

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Speaker 6: May looked like the third best quarterback. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 6: he played the third best quarterback this weekend. I don't

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Speaker 6: care about the MVP. Just a quick word on Herbert.

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Speaker 6: So as you noted, Peyton Manning, oh and three.

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Speaker 3: Stafford's first three was all for three in Detroit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but Peyton Manning's third one I remember it well

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Speaker 6: because they played my Jets and the Jets won forty

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Speaker 6: one nothing. Okay, forty one nothing. Now, the Colts in

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Speaker 6: Manning's first year were thirteen and three and hosted a

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Speaker 6: playoff game and he wasn't good and they lost. So

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Speaker 6: this justin Herbert's stuff. People are going overboard Colin.

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Speaker 2: They seem to.

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Speaker 6: Think that like, oh, he's not good. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: There's a spotlight right now in the OC. Greg Roman

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Speaker 6: last two playoff games, twenty two possessions, one touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: now listen, forty nine ers defense. You've talked about it.

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Speaker 6: They're playing practice squad guys. They figured out a way,

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Speaker 6: they schemed it up. How do you not, given the

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Speaker 6: basically the week off last week, have anything prepared to

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Speaker 6: protect Herbert. That's kind of unacceptable to me.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They looked ill prepared offensively.

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Speaker 1: What Yeah, there was just no Jewice. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: now Herbert was in a hut. They had a possession

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. I mean, he had an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But when that ball was dropped by Keenan Allen, kind

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Speaker 1: of the underneath, I was like, oh, okay, there's your

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Speaker 1: ball game.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, Hampton running back, who's really good

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Speaker 6: one carry leaves injured. I mean, I don't know are

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Speaker 6: the Chargers ever gonna get healthy ever?

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Speaker 3: Just extremely frustrating.

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Speaker 6: Final story con tonight Texans Steelers. What hopefully we'll cap

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Speaker 6: off one of the better wildcard weekends we've seen in

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Speaker 6: a while. Houston's defense has been unbelievable. Mike Tomlin looking

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Speaker 6: to snap his sixth straight playoff loss streak ahead of

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Speaker 6: the game. When asked about his playoff drought, Tomlin said,

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Speaker 6: despite being AFC North champs, the Steelers they.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 6: Ahead of them, and they seem to think that they're

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Speaker 6: ready to go on a roll here. I don't necessarily agree,

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Speaker 6: but who am I to.

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Speaker 3: To call a game after this?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 1: I said all year? I mean, the playoffs are crazy.

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Speaker 3: All year.

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Speaker 1: I doubted the Jaguars in the last two weeks. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville's good. Then at home they lose all year. I

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Speaker 1: love the Texans, but I'm watching Gainwell and Warren and Friarmouth.

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Speaker 1: Here comes DK and I can't unsee that great second

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Speaker 1: half against the Ravens by Aaron Rodgers. Tomlin as a

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Speaker 1: dog is excellent. Tomlin as a home dog's even better.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin is a Monday home dog. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a pretty low scoring guy. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's seventeen thirteen. Here's where Pittsburgh's very good in these games.

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Speaker 3: When you think.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh, you're trying to figure out how they're gonna score,

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Speaker 1: they always find a way to do something. On defense.

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Speaker 1: DJ Watt gets a pick fall into his hands. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: is very resourceful. In games where they don't move the

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Speaker 1: ball consistently, they find a way to grab points. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be lowe. I think it's a quick game.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of running underneath stuff, a

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Speaker 1: lot of it played in between the thirties. Kicking could

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Speaker 1: be a big deal, and they'll be a turnover at

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Speaker 1: some point in this game because these defenses live on

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Speaker 1: that stuff. So I think it's really close and given

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Speaker 1: the taking the points, I would take the points. I

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Speaker 1: wish it was three and a half not three, but

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Speaker 1: I think I'll take the points.

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Speaker 6: We'll go ahead to head and if I lose, I've

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Speaker 6: officially lost my shirt. I'll have to do the show

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Speaker 6: shirtless tomorrow because I don't have anything to wear.

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Speaker 3: Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Okay, people want Matt Lafleur fired, I'll tell you why

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Speaker 1: it's crazy and what are we going to make of

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Speaker 1: the Rams?

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Speaker 3: What are the Rams? Who now fly home?

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Speaker 1: We'll be back playing Chicago on Sunday night as a

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Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite. I gotta tell I

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Speaker 1: may just talk myself into the Bears here. What are

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Speaker 1: the Rams? Matt Lafleur next the Hurd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: Friday features a prime time Big twelve battle as Baylor

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Speaker 6: Let's take down Bill Self's twenty second rank Kansas Jay.

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Speaker 1: So you know when the Packers lost, it was predictable.

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Speaker 1: That everybody in Green Bay wants him fire. Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: reporting the Packers are working on a deal to retain

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, and they should. Green Bay fans can be

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Speaker 1: a little delusional. You had far of an Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: for thirty one years. You got to three Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: and won two. Why because free agents mostly don't want

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Speaker 1: to play in green Bay, small town, not a lot

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Speaker 1: to do, so he got to live through the draft.

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Speaker 1: Third straight year youngest team in the league was Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: That happens a lot. Third straight year fewest free agent signings,

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Speaker 1: so they're missing a leg on the barstool in green Bay.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, McVeigh and Les Snead talk

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Speaker 1: the owner Stan Cronke into paying for Jared Goff and

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford at the same time at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Good luck doing that in green Bay. There is no owner.

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Speaker 1: That've got some obstacles, and Packer fans are like, well,

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Speaker 1: why can Philadelphia do? Because it's Philadelphia and they have

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Speaker 1: huge game day revenue and they have a highly aggressive owner,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to get things approved and so if

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Speaker 1: Farvarn Rogers each win one Super Bowl in thirty one years.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, don't be Cleveland and fire a really smart

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Speaker 1: offensive guy. In the following week. He's the first or

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Speaker 1: second best candidate for six jobs. The other thing to

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Speaker 1: remember is man Lafleur out coach Ben Johnson this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yes he did.

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Speaker 1: The first half is the coach's half. That is play design,

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Speaker 1: play calling, game plan scheming.

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Speaker 3: Green Bay led twenty one three.

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Speaker 1: The second half is Caleb Williams and Josh Allen proved

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Speaker 1: is the baller half. That was Elway's half. Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: better than the second half.

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Speaker 3: You're not on script. Now, everybody's seen everything.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to blame somebody for Chicago's twenty five,

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Speaker 1: you know, points late in the game, that's Jeff Halfley.

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Speaker 1: But even even Jeff Halfley, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: So all three games the Packers played the Bears, green

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Speaker 1: Bay lead, well, the coaches take leads, by the way, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Who was the coach that had a great

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Speaker 1: first drive, Kyle Shanahan, not Nick Seriani.

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Speaker 3: So you're leading games.

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Speaker 1: And once Micah Parsons went down, remember they trade Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 1: a good defensive tackle in that Micah deal and then

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Speaker 1: Micah gets hurt, so you're missing a B plus defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle and an A edge well your defense, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, if you ever watch games, defenses are always

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Speaker 1: usually better early because they have more energy, and then

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Speaker 1: they're chasing the you know, the three hundred pound guys.

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Speaker 1: The two hundred and eighty pound guys are chasing people

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Speaker 1: for three and a half four hours. They're not as

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Speaker 1: good late. That's why you need a Micah Parsons, and

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Speaker 1: you also need a Kenny Clark in you don't have

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Speaker 1: either of that, one due to a trade, one due

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Speaker 1: to an injury.

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Speaker 3: So all I.

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Speaker 1: Know is when Ben Johnson got hired, the first thing

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Speaker 1: he did is buy an offensive line. I just think

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff is harder in Green Bay without

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Speaker 1: an owner, you stay whatever you want. The first half,

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Speaker 1: I thought Matt Lafleur and the Packers played a flawless

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Speaker 1: first half. Isn't that the coaches half? Was it a

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Speaker 1: tough loss? Yes, playoffs, Jacksonville looked better than Buffalo all year.

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Speaker 3: We're at home. They lost too.

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Speaker 1: We all like Liam Cohen, I mean, you got Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay almost lost with the Panthers twice, and so here

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Speaker 1: was Matt lafluor after the loss.

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Speaker 12: We just got to do a better job of keeping

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Speaker 12: our composure as a football team and going out there

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Speaker 12: and doing the fundamental things that we practice all the time.

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Speaker 12: There's a lot of pieces. All you're trying to do

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Speaker 12: in the moment is when mistakes are made, you're correcting them.

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Speaker 12: There's not long discussions on the sideline. It's just you

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Speaker 12: correct the mistakes and you try to keep it moving.

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Speaker 12: And I felt like just our team got a little

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Speaker 12: bit disheveled in the second half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens. You're on the road, it's loud, Caleb's

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Speaker 1: doing Caleb.

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Speaker 3: It happens.

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Speaker 1: And so the Rams. Rams are hard to wrap your

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Speaker 1: brain around. So, I mean, Carolina scored thirty plus points

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Speaker 1: twice this year, both times against the Rams. And I

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Speaker 1: keep hearing Chris Shula, Oh, I always hear this about

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Speaker 1: mcveigh's defensive coordinators. Randon Staley, Raheem Morris. This guy is

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Speaker 1: something else.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Carolina was four for four in the red zone. Good

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Speaker 1: on third down. I mean Robert sala Is making a

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Speaker 1: Sioux flea with a pack of dumb and some and

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Speaker 1: peanut briddle. The Rams are healthy, they have a great

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Speaker 1: front seven. Jared versus plateaued Carolina was great on third

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Speaker 1: down and perfect in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: Don Shula was great.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Chris Shula is great. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's the McVeigh magic. I'll say that everything McVeigh touches

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Speaker 1: seems to work. I'll give you an example, Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's gotten into one of his streaks

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Speaker 1: where he's a little reckless. Seven picks in seven games.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is he's the only quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: NFL that didn't even rush for a first down this year.

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Speaker 1: So you're kind of limited with the Rams. If the

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Speaker 1: play design doesn't work, the play's done. If the play

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Speaker 1: design doesn't work for Buffalo or Chicago, you get a

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Speaker 1: second play. So you know, I think mcveigh's magic. We

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Speaker 1: always believe, and mcveigh's assistants are brilliant, and then they

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Speaker 1: leave and they're not so brilliant. I mean, I defend

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor in Cincinnati, most people don't. Another thing is

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Speaker 1: the special teams guy for the Rams. That's a total adventure.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the Carolina Panthers you were watching, I

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Speaker 1: was watching they almost beat the Rams twice, and they

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Speaker 1: took that defense up and down the field and key omens.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know what to make.

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Speaker 3: I think the Rams a.

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Speaker 1: Huge break that the left tackle for the Bears is

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Speaker 1: hurt and TJ. Edwards an excellent defensive player, probably their

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Speaker 1: second best defensive player. He's hurt and he's out of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's a big break. But the last four

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Speaker 1: or five weeks you're watching, I'm watching something's off with

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Speaker 1: the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Now that said Stafford, big moments like it's hard not

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Speaker 1: to trust He's.

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Speaker 3: Not gonna run around.

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Speaker 1: Look one way, throw the other. Pooka the coup is basically,

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Speaker 1: you can't defend him. From what I can tell in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you can't cover Pooka.

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Speaker 3: Nakua.

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Speaker 1: Devonte Adams got that you know what knocked out of him,

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Speaker 1: stood up, kept playing. They run the ball, their tight

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Speaker 1: ends are great. So they pulled it out the McVeigh magic.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know how good they are Bears four

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Speaker 1: and a half at home.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm watched Carolina worked this great defense, which is healthy.

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Speaker 1: I mean San Francisco is doing it with smoke. This

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Speaker 1: defense is healthy. Jared versus Plateau. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to make of the front because I think it's full

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Speaker 1: of good players. Here's mcvagh after.

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Speaker 11: I could feel Matthew and I were on the same page,

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Speaker 11: and he did such a great job. I did feel

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Speaker 11: really good that you knew you had four downs, never

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Speaker 11: even got to that point where we needed to even really.

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Speaker 3: Get it to a third down. But he was he

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Speaker 3: was outstanding.

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Speaker 11: I thought our guys made the plays that they needed to,

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Speaker 11: and they made their plays. That's what great players do.

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Speaker 11: That's what you love about this league. But ultimately, the

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Speaker 11: players did a nice job.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the NFC playoff picture. Let's

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Speaker 1: get all of them here. So San Francisco Seattle, I

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Speaker 1: will tell you this, San Francisco is going to come

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Speaker 1: out aggressive in the first half because they know they

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Speaker 1: don't have the overall roster. Seattle is a favorite off rest.

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Speaker 1: What to young teams we saw it in college. What

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Speaker 1: a young teams do off of buy they don't play

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Speaker 1: well in the first half, they don't watch San Francisco

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Speaker 1: Seattle very competitive. I would take Seattle to eventually wear

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Speaker 1: them down. But Shanahan know he doesn't have the roster.

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Speaker 1: He knows he doesn't have the roster. Shanahan's going to

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Speaker 1: be hyper aggressive against the Seahawk team, and Seattle probably

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Speaker 1: goes in knowing they have the better roster.

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Speaker 3: A little cautious.

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Speaker 1: I think the game, at least at halftime is really close,

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Speaker 1: and then you cross your fingers on what quarterbacks make plays.

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Speaker 1: The Bears had two really tough injuries to deal with.

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Speaker 1: They're at home, Rams go home, back out to cold weather.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see. I don't know what to do

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Speaker 1: with the Rams here. They should be favored. They are.

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Speaker 1: I think those injuries really really hurt the Bears. It

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Speaker 1: was also such a gigantic win. Is there a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a letdown? We'll see in the AFC. I

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Speaker 1: am done doubting Josh Allen. I think Denver's got the

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Speaker 1: better team. I think Denver's got the better coach. I'm

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Speaker 1: not touching it. I just I'm done doubting Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: New England takes on j Mac thinks the Texans. He's

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Speaker 1: probably right. I like Pittsburgh to cover. I'll tell you though,

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Speaker 1: if you're New England, you're rooting for the Steelers to win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Drake May against that pass rush and that defense of Houston.

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Speaker 1: That is a handful. That is not that could be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Drake May struggled last night at a

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Speaker 1: layer of talent and length and pass rushing with Houston's defense.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Wow, it's Colin that NFC so three teams from the

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Speaker 6: NFC West are left. Okay, that's a little crazy. Second,

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Speaker 6: if Seattle and Chicago are playing for a trip to

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, will that be the most insufferable you

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Speaker 6: are since I've joined the show, because you basically called

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Speaker 6: those teams your teams have destiny the off season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you had both of them and Denver as well.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't know how you nailed all these guys,

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Speaker 6: but I'm just absolutely New England.

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Speaker 1: If New England and Seattle get in, it will be

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Speaker 1: my greatest moment.

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Speaker 3: He knew it was thirty years of TV radio.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I think San Francisco Seattle keep

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Speaker 1: your eye on a hyper aggressive forty nine er team

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Speaker 1: and a heavily favored and cautious home Seattle team. Don't

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Speaker 1: buy in a blowout top Colin right, Colin wrong. Next