WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Ready to Fight? 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:06.920 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:17.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.520 for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.880 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.240 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:37.559 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.520 It just wins. The January twelfth, two Thy twenty two 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.160 Seatson seventeen, Episode number ninety six. Welcome to the latest 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.239 edition of The Break. We are live from the s 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.919 WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, we just finished up 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.720 the daily press conference with Mike McCarthy. We'll get to 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:53.280 that in just a second. There's one thing I thought 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.000 that came out of that was pretty interesting. Gonna have 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.360 Dave kind of give us a recap on that. Nick 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.680 Dills gets started with ninety six Game ninety six, o' quick, 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.880 Daniels stubs Daniel Stubbs. Don't know who he is? You 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.560 want to tell me who he is? He played in 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.360 the nineties early nineties, was a Miami guy, moved over. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.160 But more than anything that Coppell Delhi that all the 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.560 players would go to miss that place. The Stubs was 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.679 because the Stubbs breakfast sandwiches that they still have is 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.800 because of Daniel Stubbs. He's one of the best things 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.360 I've ever eaten in my life. So so I can 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.680 heart attack waiting to happen. Yeah, they still have that, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.080 and Nate Newton it's probably you know eight a few 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.920 still go over there every once in a while. I 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.959 don't really I used to live over there, but now 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.959 I don't. But yeah, they still bring them in sometimes. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.480 Day three of the draft, Dave, No, it's not my thing. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.000 It's Rich Dalrymple's thing. He's the head of Cowboys PR. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.920 He's been here forever. I was actually watching Jimmy's speech 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.600 after the ninety two how about Them Cowboys speech after 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.600 they beat the Niners, and like Riches in the background 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.120 looking much younger. Um. But day three of the draft 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.680 he goes and gets Stubb sandwiches for like everybody in 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.720 football ops and pretty awesome. Yea, he and you know 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.640 at some point we might get included. Well, he always 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.720 used like and like Rich can be kind of surly. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.960 I think he would agree with that. I'm not Fittsburgh, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.360 not talking trash, but even you know, Brian left personnel 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.360 years and years ago, and Rich would still always buy 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.920 him one. Like, so we'd be doing the draft on 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.760 Saturday and Brian would have a Stubbs that Rich picked 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:24.600 up for him, And I just thought, I always thought 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.200 that was really cool gesture. But it's man, it's good. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:29.720 If you're ever in town, you should go get and 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.600 do miss those all right, let's jump in. Let's first 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.400 give me an update on all the guys that missed 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.239 this last week's game. You got Michael Parsons, Tyron Smith, 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.359 Anthony Brown, jay Ron Curse, jay Von Dicks, Tony Pollard. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.560 Where are we with all those guys in returning to practice? 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.520 Everybody but jay Ron Curse is up and ready to go. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.400 Micah and Tyron came off the COVID list today. Ab 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.359 came off earlier this week. I don't remember the exact day, 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.320 but he's been back. Yeah. I mean, jay Ron was 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.119 the last guy to test positive, so it makes sense 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.880 that he's the last guy still in the protocol. Lunda, well, 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.920 the tight ends coach is testing right now. Um, but 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.079 other than that, yeah, Jayron is the only player that 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.920 I would imagine won't be available today and all Are 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.680 you at all concerned about jay Ron just because he 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.040 was already dealing with an injury and then he got COVID, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.000 which means that he hasn't been rehabbing with them. Are 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.000 you a bit concerned about that? And where that stands? 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.520 It was limited too, It was limited with hamstring, which 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.079 is that's a good sign. I mean that he could 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.200 have just been shut down, So I think he was 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:33.399 relatively close anyways. Um, I just I think he's gonna play. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.840 I don't know. I don't have any other reason to 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.920 think that he won't. I think that he's gonna play. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.920 I think a lot of these guys will play. All right, Um, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.520 there was one of those. Now we're putting all our 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.240 chips in now, Yeah, we are. That's it. It doesn't 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:47.840 matter if you're hurt, it doesn't matter if you got COVID. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.320 You're all in all. They have all kinds of shots. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.320 You watch these watch these COVID cases here in the playoffs, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.400 they're gonna go down. You think, no, no, no, I 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.080 actually think I think. I think. I think COVID cases 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.240 will go up on Mondays and then they will be 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.560 down by the weekend. Yeah, we'll tend to go that. Yeah, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.200 maybe all right, m Dave, I want to get your 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.360 impressions of something you were. You were in that press caller, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.120 at least listen to that press conference. Mike McCarthy was 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.880 asked a question about Greg Zerline. He was asked about 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.520 what gives him faith at this point in a guy 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.839 like Greg knowing that he's having the struggles he's having, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.200 and even more than that, what experiences he has that 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.280 he may lean on to help him figure out how 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.600 he manages this kind of situation. What do you say? Yeah, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.160 he said a lot. I mean he probably talked for 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.040 six minutes. It's a good question by Jory Epstein, especially 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.680 the part about calling on his experience, because as long 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.839 as Mike McCarthy has been a head coach, you would 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.320 guess he's probably gone through a kicker or a punter 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.760 or two, and obviously Mason Crosby has been the kicker 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.359 in Green Bay forever. He talked about that of like 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.800 working with Crosby through his struggles. The thing that really 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.840 stuck out to me was the part about John Ryan, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.839 who I, to be honest, I never knew he played 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.360 for Green Bay, and Mike McCarthy talked about how they 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.320 kind of got an itchy trigger finger with him and 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.880 they cut him, um and and he said, probably too soon. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.760 And he goes on and catches on with the Seahawks 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.000 and had a fantastic career there, and it was just 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.839 kind of it's an interesting answer if you want to 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.560 go listen to the whole thing in full context, but 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.480 just kind of talking about following the process, uh, like 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.600 the process of the whole week, the way the guy practices, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.360 the way the guy approaches it, um, and just being 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.840 true to that and not being too reactionary um in 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.440 terms of like whether or not you yank a guy 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.680 or cut a guy or whatever. All that being said, 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.960 do you guys, and we heard him talk about with 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.320 for Fossil talk about it, do you think that that's 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.000 a lot of lip service from the standpoint of them 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.479 saying that they're completely and totally Um. I guess what's 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.640 the right word confidence still in Greg? Or do you 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.880 think there is some in some aspects, some creep that's 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.080 that I mean, some some doubt that maybe has crept 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.280 into their minds and is going to affect how they 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.560 call the game. Yeah, I think it has to affect 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.560 him a little bit. I mean, um, you know, but 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.920 but that may not be a bad thing too. I mean, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.680 what kicks are we talking about? Not a thirty nine 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.120 yard or not a forty six yarder. It's gonna be 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.240 fifty fifty four or fifty three in the second quarter. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.080 Do we want that? Do we want the field position 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.919 if he misses? You know? Because so I think I 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.080 think that kind of stuff. Maybe if he was locked 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.080 in kicking, great, you wouldn't even worry about it. He 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.440 would say he's gonna hit this fifty four yard or whatever, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.200 and that's three more points. So I think a little bit, 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.040 but not to the point where you're going for two 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.799 or you're you're not going you're not kicking field goals 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.640 when you probably should. You know, this is gonna be 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.880 one of those games where it probably low scoring, so 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.840 you gotta get your three points, you know. I think, Well, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.560 when you say that, though, when you say you don't 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.320 think it'll affect maybe they've been going for two. That 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.080 seems to be the area where at least it's the 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.480 area we're all focused on because of the missed extra points. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.360 You don't think that that affects their thought process when 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.240 they get in those situations. Of maybe we should go 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.680 for two here, because maybe we just don't trust the 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.320 extra point as much as we trust if our offense 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.200 seems to be flowing maybe two yards to get two points, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.920 what's my two points? What's the two point conversion rate 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.839 for the team? For the league? It's probably fifty percent, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.760 sixty maybe a little higher for some people maybe, And 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.320 I don't know what it is for the Cowboys. They 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.640 seem like they're okay there, but I don't even know 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.360 how many times they've done it, and not a lot, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.200 but I bet it's not eighty eight percent. I mean, 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.760 I mean, I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.920 I mean, I get your point, but when you think 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.840 about percentage of that, but then he also have to 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.440 weigh this into Dallas is at sixty percent. Okay, that's good, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.000 So well, what's more important? I mean, what's what's a 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.480 better stat Sixty percent to get two points, eighty seven 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.480 percent to give it one point? Right, I mean, that's 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.000 pretty even, I would think. I just I'm not And 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.600 to answer your original question, they probably believe what they're saying. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.480 But even if they don't, what else are you gonna say? 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.320 Four days before the playoff, and I'm not soupercerned about 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.040 what they're saying. I'm concerning more what they're saying when 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:55.840 we're not around. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get to. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.280 I hate it. Jerry doesn't hold back. Yeah, Jerry's been 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.520 pretty candid about it. I don't like the idea of 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.400 switching up like fundamental things about who I am before 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.280 a playoff game. You know what I mean. I mean, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.880 maybe he's gonna miss an extra point, and that's what 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.160 I said. Maybe, And I'm not I'm not excusing it, 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.440 but this is just the situation that you're in. Maybe 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.040 he's gonna miss an extra point. But when we need 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.040 a forty six yarder with four minutes to play in 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.080 the fourth that's gonna extend the lead or tie the 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:30.000 game or whatever, He's made those Ironically, I feel better 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.040 about those situations ye do. About an extra point? Yes, absolutely, 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.360 I feel if he lines up for like a must 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.960 have kick on Sunday, I'm very confident that he'll make 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.120 it too. I'm also pretty confident he's gonna miss something 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.960 that I don't think he should miss it some way, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.559 it is what it is. But I still I just it. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.800 It's like, you know, like you run races, like you 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.680 get into like a rhythm, you've done something a certain way, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.720 like you don't want to switch up while you're standing 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.120 on the starting line on race day. He just it's 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.880 you've come too far and maybe maybe they should have 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.880 done something earlier in the season, but they didn't, and 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.719 now they're here and I think you just got to 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.640 stay the course. Well. I was trying to find the 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.680 quote from Fossil I can't ever say his name, Fossil, Fossil, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:20.240 Fossil where he talked about him earlier this week and 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:24.400 basically saying, yeah, they have full confidence in him, but 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.760 that it is kind of partially mental and like psychological. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.160 And he did say that they're trying to work on 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.280 something with him to hit him out, But I'm like, 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.800 how do you actually help a psychological part of things? 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.840 You know, like, how do you what do you do 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.600 to actually help it? And if anything, if it is 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.320 something that would help him out, I mean, you would 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.640 think they've been doing that the past months and clearly 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.160 hasn't necessarily helped him out, unless he would have maybe 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.160 missed even more than I went back. I went back 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.520 and listened to that, and it was almost ominous because 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.640 he was like, we're gonna we're gonna try something this 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.280 week that might be able to help him out with that. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.319 And then they asked what it was and he was like, Oh, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:07.960 if it doesn't work, I'll tell you about it on 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.400 Monday next week when we talk to you again. I 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.280 was just like, what are you gonna do, like threaten 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.640 him or like you know you're gonna like work, they 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.680 won't be talking to us what I'm saying, or like 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.559 you know, like we're docking your pay for every miss 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.560 and practice or something. I don't like. It just sounded 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.000 kind of like a threat, almost like oh, we got 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.040 something for Greg this week. That is the crazy part 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.240 about this thing. And this is in sports in general 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.960 these days, like they got sports psychologists. Every team has 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.560 sports psychologists, and guys have sports psychologists on their own. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.880 I mean, it is, it is there is a mental 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:45.400 side to sports, into competition, into performance, and so yeah, 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.480 I mean I would assume at this point they're probably 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.080 trying anything they can try, especially a thing like this 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.120 where this is clearly not a physical thing, like this 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.360 guy will kick a fifty something yarder and you feel 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.559 pretty good. About it, and he's out out down and 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.959 trying to kick an extra point. And that's where you work, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.040 like that is a mental issue, Like that's something going 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.000 on psychological, and so then it just it's a matter 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.200 of can you figure out what the psychological thing is 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.320 and try to fix it. It's not as simple as 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.400 just fixing a mechanical things. What I would do that 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.560 not a damn thing. I wouldn't do a damn thing. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.160 Just kick the ball. Don't talk to him about it 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.359 or anything. He knows. It's like, it's just like basketball, 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.560 and you shoot free throws. You got a good free 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.240 throw shooter, You go into a little bit of a 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.120 stump here and there, and just gotta keep shooting, Gotta 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.600 keep shooting, gotta get back into that rhythm. Don't talk 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.400 about it. You don't. I mean, does anyone go up 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:34.880 to the guy who pitching a no hitter in the 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.440 seventh inning and go and you're really spending it today? 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.120 You know you got a no hitter. You don't talk 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.559 about it, Just just go. He knows, he knows the deal. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.560 Let him go kick on the off site. Like I 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.560 wonder you go up to a pitcher in the third 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.360 when he's giving up four runs and you're like, man, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.880 you can't find the zone today, like your curveball sucks today. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.200 Where's that? Where is it? Sports psychologists? Yeah, well that 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:00.200 that's just called you're out nine other guys that day. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.200 You don't I mean, don't you know you don't have 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.880 another guy? You don't have right now? Yeah, you know 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:06.880 there's no tap in the right leg. Can you mean 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.600 the right You just see McCarthy. That's the cool thing, like, yeah, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.280 you're nice, but don't have that he's with he's with 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.160 another guy. Yeah, it would be nice, but you don't 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.280 have to get us for tampering. My bad. I don't 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.600 know where he is. He's Washington. He's with someone. Yeah, 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.800 he's not here. Anybody here, sorry, yes he is not here. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.400 All right, we're gonna take our first break. We come back. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.600 We got Bucky Brooks join. Bucky Brooks joining us. 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From the moment that this 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.360 matchup was announced, I think everybody looked at immediately looked 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:26.000 at this San Francisco running game and said that that's 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.880 going to be a problem. Tell me why they're so 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.800 tough to defend. It's a problem because it's creators yet 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:37.400 old school. It will attest your discipline, get attest your 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.720 physicality and toughness, and if all eleven defenders aren't on 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.640 the same page, it can made four long day. And 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.200 what Kyle Shanahan has done is he's taking the system 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.080 that was created by his dad and Alice Gibbs. Any 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.560 dad of a few bills and whistles that makes it 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:57.240 even harder to defend the free snap shifting and motioning. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.080 They do that on over seventy percent of their play. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.600 And so what they do is they kind of play 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.520 the shield game with you, all right. They motion, they 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.400 shift with a strength call. Who's doing this? You got 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.240 to be communicating, and then they hit you right in 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.840 the mouth with a pin and poor run with guards 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.760 pulling and all of the other stuff. And so for 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.040 teams who had gone to ride of they want to 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.040 get lighter and faster to get after the passer, they 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.080 basically comes right at you. And for teams that are fast, 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.600 I mean in big and physical, they run to the edges. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.120 And for teams who are trying to hide defensive backs 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.520 who don't like tackling, they run to the edges. They 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.440 put wide receivers that enjoy blocking on you. And so 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.280 it's all hands on that deal that you have to 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.600 defend when you have to defend their running again, like 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.200 this seems like second down is probably the most important 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.920 down for the Cowboys defense here, just just the difference 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.800 of maybe getting them in third and long situations or 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.240 something third and short or first down to keep them 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.240 playing the way they want to play. Would you agree 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.440 with that, Yeah, early down situations are critical. I would 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.520 back it up and say first down is really the 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.840 key because if you can hold them the four yards 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.760 a fewer on first down, then you probably forced them 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.760 to pass on second nown, which plays to the strengths 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.720 of your team. But what you don't want to do 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.639 in a b in a situation where they're living in 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:22.600 thurden twos and second and fours, because now it's a mixdown, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.320 they can run and or they can throw it, because 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.879 third down won't be a long yer situation, and so 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.720 first down it would be critical in terms of making 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.520 them play behind the chain. And the thing about it 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.160 is you can't just get up to stop the run 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.640 or early downs. You got to be aware of the play, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.560 actual passing game, the shot zone when they do these 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.800 missed direction plays and then try and raise up and 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.960 pull it deep down the field. And so it's one 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.919 of those games where everyone has to be on the 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.159 same page. You might even need to be simpler in 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.159 terms of what you do in the back end to 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.160 make sure that everyone is locked and loading. You don't 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.880 give up the home run play Bucky. When you play 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.919 a team with this much motion and pre snap movement. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.800 What's the key to getting ready for that, because I mean, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.480 you only have so many reps in a week. Is 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.760 that tape study or do you have to get out 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.600 and wrap it? Like, what's what's the best way to 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:16.120 prepare for that? Well, when you want to simplify, right, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.439 which kind of play to This is why they do it. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.679 They motion and shift you because they want you to 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.359 play simple. They want to figure out what you're doing 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.760 and then they want to attack it. But from a 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.919 defensive standpoint, the reason you want to simplify is you 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.520 don't have enough time throughout the week to go through 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.760 every conceivable shift, motion and running play or fast and 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.560 play that they're a So you want something that would 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.800 allow you to stay in a solid defense, something that 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.080 can be communicated really quickly. You don't have people running 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.080 around looking like they're lost in space. Everyone sees the motion, 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.040 they adjust, they bump, and then they line up in play. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:53.600 And so you can do that plane zone. You can 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.800 do that plane man. But what you don't want to 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.320 do is to have probably the chief case factory menu 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.760 this week because of the beach much to get it 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.960 in it needs to be I guess what you guys, 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.879 talk about what a bird. It needs to be small, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.480 It needs to be very simple and concise. But yeah, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.520 I wanted to ask you about the run defense and 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.560 the Colways run defense. You know they're not necessarily they're 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.920 forte on this area. So how does that look against 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.639 this kind of running game that the forty nine has 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.840 got going on. I mean, right now, I would say 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.320 you the big umbro will fall on the h has 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:31.960 to go on the heads of the defensive lineman in 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.240 the linebackers, the markets, Lawrence and those guys up front 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.040 got to be able to control the gaps Laden Van 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.040