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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Inside the Draft podcast here on the

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Speaker 2: Colts Audio Network. I'm Matt Taylor, coming to you from

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio, and we are

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Speaker 2: back at it here in twenty twenty five with our

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Speaker 2: Inside the Draft series in the months of March and

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Speaker 2: April leading you up to the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: The draft is set to start Thursday, April twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: with Round one and then run until Saturday, the twenty

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Speaker 2: six with rounds four through seven. On Day three, the

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Speaker 2: Colts hold seven picks in the seven round draft, including

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Speaker 2: the fourteenth overall pick in round number one. Coming off

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Speaker 2: an eight to nine season and missing out on the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: the Colts have a handful of big draft needs like

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Speaker 2: every team in the NFL, and this weekly series is

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Speaker 2: here to discuss those needs, talk about the top prospects

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Speaker 2: in the draft and the depth at key positions. And

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Speaker 2: today we have a pair of great guests that we've

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Speaker 2: chatted with the last couple of weeks at the NFL

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Speaker 2: Combine up first to chat with Draft insider Nick Baumgardner

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Speaker 2: from The Athletic. He'll talk about the Colts' biggest draft needs,

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Speaker 2: the tight end depth in this draft class, and where

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Speaker 2: the Colts could target their draft efforts on the defensive

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Speaker 2: side of the ball. And then we'll also hear from

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Speaker 2: Kyle Krabs, the NFL draft lead for the thirty third

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Speaker 2: team and the host of the Locked On Scouting podcast.

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Speaker 2: Kyle is a really good in the no draft expert.

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Speaker 2: He breaks down the top quarterbacks, the running back depth

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Speaker 2: of the Colts could potentially bring in to back up

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, and the most NFL ready prospects on defense

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Speaker 2: in this class. So let's get it going here. This

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Speaker 2: is all things NFL draft on Inside the Draft, the

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Speaker 2: first of mini leading into late April, and we start

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Speaker 2: first with Nick Baumgardner from The Combine last week as

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Speaker 2: he leads off with his top draft needs for the

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Speaker 2: Colts coming off an eight to nine twenty twenty four campaign.

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Speaker 1: Really does feel like they need a lot, but it

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Speaker 1: really does feel like that tight end spot to me,

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Speaker 1: I just keep going back to that, and it's not

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Speaker 1: just because you know, for a lot of reasons. Number one,

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Speaker 1: I think Richardson it would help him, you know, immeasurably

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Speaker 1: the same conversation that we end up having with like

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in Chicago, like they need to learn how

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Speaker 1: to value possessions the young quarterbacks and having a tight

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Speaker 1: end that can really run routes and be a three

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Speaker 1: down threat. It's important. But more than that, this is

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Speaker 1: a great, great tight end class, really really good. One

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Speaker 1: with the one from a few years ago that people

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Speaker 1: you know called like the La parter one with all

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Speaker 1: those guys and you know, Theol Warrenn and Colson Lovelin,

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Speaker 1: those two guys. I don't know if they'll make it

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Speaker 1: if they have to move up, But like that's my

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Speaker 2: Is it still I mean, even with it being an

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Speaker 2: good idea good practice to draft a tight end in

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Speaker 2: the first round considering Yeah, you know, positional value, if

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Speaker 2: you will, historically and traditionally and based on what we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it depends on the team. It depends

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Speaker 3: Both would be absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Fair for the cold Star at fourteen whatever at fourteen, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, pass catcher right regardless

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Speaker 4: Right now, I know we're going to dive into other positions.

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Speaker 3: Is it in this class? I think it's sizable.

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Speaker 1: But at the top here Tyler, Warren and Loveland are

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Speaker 1: I think with Warren is the one guy in this

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Speaker 3: It doesn't happen every play.

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Speaker 3: Great fit for everything they do.

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Speaker 2: the Athletic And as we sit here and talk right now,

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Speaker 2: the Colts have they have decisions to make along the

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Speaker 3: It's you know, this is not the best.

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Speaker 1: Last year's tackle class was really really good, and we

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Speaker 2: But those guys you just mentioned, those are Day two guys.

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Speaker 2: Those are probably gonna go Day one.

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Speaker 4: Typically, you see the influx of those premier positions. Tackle

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's some running backs.

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Speaker 4: Now give me the difference between Shador and cam Ward.

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Speaker 4: I mean those are kind of the two polarizing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Where do you have them graded and as far as

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Speaker 1: So Ward's my one, and simply I think it's awful close.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because I think Ward's ceiling for

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Speaker 2: That's Nick mount Gardner, NFL Draft insider from the athletic

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Speaker 2: final couple of things the Tennessee Titans. Yeah he will

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Speaker 5: Trade the pick? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I would try to trade the pick, but I don't

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Speaker 3: But not now.

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Speaker 4: How difficult is that because it's a what have you

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Speaker 3: Difficult is that? Because insanely tarpole quarterback play.

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Speaker 4: You know, for the Titans, it's a bad year, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 3: Nick?

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Speaker 2: You've done a lot. I appreciate you. Man the Pride

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Speaker 5: I know you're a big Wolfraine fan written.

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Speaker 1: Tell I've got Mountaintop, the story of the ninety seven

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Speaker 1: wrote the forward, you don't love Jamie's my guy? Answer absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And so you drove down rights and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you your favorite aspect of Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: in terms of the combine.

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Speaker 1: This is the best convention center city in maybe the world,

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Speaker 1: Like I think I always say that in the country

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Speaker 1: for sure, Like they have more hotels and restaurants and

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Speaker 1: areas to walk around in like three blocks everywhere.

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Speaker 3: It's the best.

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Speaker 1: Like I think people always like, oh, indian Plus is

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Speaker 1: a boring I'm like, it's not. It's because it's cold,

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Speaker 1: I guess sometimes where people say that, But I'm like,

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Speaker 1: for a Midwest walk around city, this is the best.

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Speaker 3: Like I think it's the best.

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Speaker 1: Anytime I would cover any event, I was like, just

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Speaker 1: keep it here, don't move them around.

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Speaker 5: I'll go, yeah, raise your hand. Half hours.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: We're biased, but we agree with you for sure, no

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Speaker 5: doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we really appreciate your time. Great to meet you,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully we can do this soon.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Twenty twenty five and NFL Combine Here in downtown Indianapolis,

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Speaker 6: we bring the best to you guys to keep you

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Speaker 6: up to data what's going on, and especially in the

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Speaker 6: colts world.

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Speaker 5: We're bringing in.

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Speaker 6: Kyle Krabs, host of Lockdown, NFL Scouting and the NFL

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Speaker 6: Draft lead for the thirty third team. Follow him on

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Speaker 6: Twitter x at Kyle Krabs. If you're a football fan,

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Speaker 6: appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 3: It's my pleasure.

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Speaker 7: It's a joy to come to Indianapolis every year. I

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Speaker 7: hope it stays here forever as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 7: And I finally figured out the skywalk, so that's a

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Speaker 7: big win.

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Speaker 5: Can you let us know? I think the new one

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Speaker 5: gets billed about every six months.

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Speaker 7: Yla asked me to show you around because I'll probably

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Speaker 7: get turned round or I'll go down a thing you

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Speaker 7: need a key card to get through. Yeah, all things considered.

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Speaker 7: The eighth year here and I finally got a good deal.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you running all right? Glad that it is amazed? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: there's no doubt, all right, work in the bounce everywhere here?

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Speaker 5: All right? Top ten, let's just talk top ten right there.

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Speaker 6: The biggest storyline for you, is it Travis Hunter or

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Speaker 6: is there something else I'm missing? When it comes to

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Speaker 6: the top ten picks, of this upcoming NFL drive.

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Speaker 7: I think it's where QB two goes in this class

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Speaker 7: where you know that the Titans are kind of posturing

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Speaker 7: as though they may take at dull Carter out in

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Speaker 7: the public space. Is that an incentive to try to

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Speaker 7: get the Giants to trade up so that the Giant

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Speaker 7: if the Titans don't love the one of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 7: the Browns with their quarterback contract situation, would they be

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Speaker 7: better off finding a veteran with some guaranteed money that

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Speaker 7: gets cut so you could sign them for the minimum

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Speaker 7: and let somebody else pay the majority of salary. Why

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Speaker 7: you still got de Shan Watson's contracts on the books.

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Speaker 7: If those quarterbacks go in the top three, I think

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Speaker 7: you could see it go fairly chalk down through the

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Speaker 7: top six picks, hypothetically with the people that you generally

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Speaker 7: perceived to be like the elite players of the elite

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Speaker 7: players of this class will go there. But if somebody

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Speaker 7: takes a talent over one of the two quarterbacks, that

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Speaker 7: to me is the top ten storyline of what do

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Speaker 7: the Jets do ye if one of those quarterbacks gets there?

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Speaker 7: Do they get anty and go up and get a guy?

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Speaker 7: What does the domino effect look like for them New Orleans.

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Speaker 7: You know, they seem to like Spencer Router, but he

509
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Speaker 7: was a Day three pick at Derek Carr. They had

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Speaker 7: to come out and say they were keeping this year.

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Speaker 7: So there's a couple different spots with that core back

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Speaker 7: two spot that I think is the pivot point.

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Speaker 6: In the top ten of this year, regardless of position.

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Speaker 6: Kyle who's most NFL ready Actually who could have made

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Speaker 6: a difference last.

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Speaker 5: Year if they were playing in the NFL but they

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Speaker 5: were in the college game. Who is that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Mason Graham from Michigan, the defensive tackle

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Speaker 7: is probably that guy for me. With a lot of

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Speaker 7: translatable reps. You know, you see Travis Hunter on both

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Speaker 7: sides of the ball. He's a special talent. He's my

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Speaker 7: top rated player on the board. But playing both ways

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Speaker 7: the way that he did at the volume in which

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Speaker 7: he did it does kind of take away from like

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Speaker 7: I think, he's still got so much room to grow,

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Speaker 7: and that's what makes him such an exciting player. But

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Speaker 7: if you were asking me take a guy that played

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Speaker 7: in twenty three, Mason Graham probably played his best two

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Speaker 7: games in the two college football playoff games for Michigan

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Speaker 7: last year, he and Kenneth Grant.

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Speaker 3: They didn't win him the Washington game in the National Championship,

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Speaker 3: but they were unblockable.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and guys who played like that, you know, didn't

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Speaker 7: have his best year this year. But I'm leaning on

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Speaker 7: the full body of work there for Mason Grothy.

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Speaker 3: He's a very easy valuation.

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Speaker 5: You said it. I'm just going back.

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Speaker 6: Why didn't he have as good a year as he

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Speaker 6: did when they won a national championship?

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Speaker 5: In your eyes, it's not system. System stayed the same.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's some variance as far as you know,

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Speaker 7: Mason's not. I think Kenneth Grant is a better functional

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Speaker 7: athlete than Mason Graham is. So I think from an

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Speaker 7: athleticism standpoint, you have a little bit more variants in

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Speaker 7: finishing some plays in that regard.

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Speaker 3: I had heard some people.

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Speaker 7: Say maybe you played a little banged up throughout the

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Speaker 7: course of the season too, So I don't know if that,

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Speaker 7: and I don't know anything on that, but that was

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Speaker 7: just kind of chatter throughout the course of this week.

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Speaker 6: I'm a Michigan blowhard. That's why I'm staying here. Sorry

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Speaker 6: about that.

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Speaker 7: It's they've been spoiled with those two guys in the

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Speaker 7: middle there for the last couple of years, and I

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Speaker 7: would not be surprised if both of them end up

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Speaker 7: going into the top ten too when it's all said

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Speaker 7: and done.

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Speaker 5: It's Kyle Krabs.

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Speaker 2: He's the host of Locked on NFL Scouting and the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft lead for the thirty third team here at

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Speaker 2: the NFL Scouting Combine on Radio Row. Kyle, I believe

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Speaker 2: your latest mock draft for the Colts, who had them

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Speaker 2: pegged Tyler Warren sitting there at fourteen. That gets a

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Speaker 2: lot of people around here excited. Let's go, let's layer.

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Speaker 2: That's a little bit a What is most attractive to

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Speaker 2: you about Tyler Warren being in the Shane Stike in offense?

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Speaker 7: So I think it's how he compliments the other pieces

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Speaker 7: that are established here with an identity that's been well

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Speaker 7: rooted in the offensive line. I know Ryan Kelly and

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Speaker 7: Will Fryes, and I think Lewinsky's also an expiring free

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Speaker 7: agent for the guys, So there's some contracts you got

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Speaker 7: to figure out there in the middle. But you've got

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor with Anthony Richardson. What that does from a

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Speaker 7: run game perspective with the menu that you have in

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Speaker 7: the quarterback run game, with Jonathan Taylor now having a

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Speaker 7: player like Tyler Warren who you guys have had, some

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Speaker 7: big body like Moalley Cox has been here, felt like

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Speaker 7: there's been opportunities to try to upgrade him, and none

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Speaker 7: of those guys have really hit. Whether it was Ranson

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Speaker 7: Woods can't stay healthy Will Mallory I believe as well.

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Speaker 7: So there's been these swings at the bat to try

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Speaker 7: to get like a more influential player there. And Tyler

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Speaker 7: Warren playing in the why as the inline player who

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Speaker 7: can contribute to the core in the run game, but

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Speaker 7: then can be a size mismatch weapon as well in

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Speaker 7: the middle of the field. I think just really creates

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Speaker 7: a lot of math problems for opposing defenses to try

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Speaker 7: to account to Hey, they're plus one in the run

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Speaker 7: game because Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: Can run the ball.

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Speaker 7: Hey, by the way, they can come at us and

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Speaker 7: run twelve personnel and Warren can get behind the linebackers

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Speaker 7: and it's a big time problem.

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Speaker 3: For us, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: What makes you think he's going to be there at fourteen?

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Speaker 7: I think positional value is part of the stigma that

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Speaker 7: you have to battle any brock Bauers.

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Speaker 3: How good was he in here? Is he brock Bowers.

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Speaker 7: He's a different body type than brock Bowers, and he's

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Speaker 7: a different type of player. So he's two hundred and

601
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Speaker 7: sixty plus pounds. He's more of the traditional hand in

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Speaker 7: the dirt type guy. But then you see the versatility

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Speaker 7: where they do put him out in the slot, they

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Speaker 7: direct snack to him. He's a high school quarterback, so

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Speaker 7: it's got they'll do power run game with him with

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Speaker 7: direct snaps. That kind of versatility with a player who

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Speaker 7: was his best as an inline blocker. I thought in

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Speaker 7: the final four or five games that they've played last year,

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Speaker 7: I thought he really showcased when they hit the Big

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Speaker 7: Ten championship game against Organ, I saw a different inline

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Speaker 7: blocker player than what I saw throughout the course of

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Speaker 7: the regular season. So he flipped that switch. He's gonna

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Speaker 7: have to keep that intensity up. But tight ends usually

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Speaker 7: don't go in that range, right like, So I think

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Speaker 7: you have Jets at seven's kind of a popular spot

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Speaker 7: to project Carolina needs offensive weapons. And then you get

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Speaker 7: into Miami at thirteen, and I think those are the

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Speaker 7: hurdles you have to clear as far as there's a

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Speaker 7: really sturdy argument for those teams to take a tight end.

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Speaker 2: Is he worth trading up for if you're the Colts,

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Speaker 2: I mean that, I mean to trade up in the

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Speaker 2: first round for a tight end right. Just the optics

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Speaker 2: alone is tough to grasp.

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Speaker 7: It puts a lot on his shoulders and wouldn't say

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Speaker 7: he's not capable of handling that. But I think when

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Speaker 7: you foil that with the challenges of this draft class

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Speaker 7: in general, yeah, you could probably get up for relatively

628
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Speaker 7: cheaper because you look through the history of draft and

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Speaker 7: the last couple of years, it's been a big time

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Speaker 7: premium to move up because there's a lot of quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: that go they like the dynamics of the early round,

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Speaker 7: and as we said a little earlier, there's only really

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Speaker 7: consensus four to six blue chip type players in this class,

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Speaker 7: and without the quarterback demand, I think you'll see a

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Speaker 7: lot of teams that are eager to come down if

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Speaker 7: there's somebody that's willing to buy. And I go back

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Speaker 7: to like twenty twelve, the Dolphins went from twelve to

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Speaker 7: three for pick forty two, and that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's all it costs because it was a bad class

640
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Speaker 3: in Yeah, the low hole. They drafted Dean.

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Speaker 7: Jordan with that pick, so that's probably why it was

642
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Speaker 7: pretty cheap to move up. So I think the position

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Speaker 7: of value works in their favor in that regard. I

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Speaker 7: don't think you'd have to get up too far. You know,

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Speaker 7: you know, a team like San Francisco has a lot

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Speaker 7: of guys on high payroll. They have a lot of

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Speaker 7: guys who are looking to get paid new contracts. They're

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Speaker 7: picking an eleven. They might benefit from having some extra

649
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Speaker 7: draft capital after still the fallout from the Trey Lance

650
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Speaker 7: trade that didn't work out for them.

651
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Speaker 5: At Kyle Krabs follow him on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: X Matt talked about Anthony richardson Let's be honest, this

653
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Speaker 6: offense will go as the quarterback goes. We saw Flacco

654
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Speaker 6: come in for some spells last year and what happened

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Speaker 6: as Chris Bellard said he wants a quarterback competition, a

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Speaker 6: veteran's coming in. Regardless who's that guy? Is there a

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Speaker 6: second out There is a third out there that you

658
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Speaker 6: say fits in, has the ability to potentially one day

659
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 6: be a starter in the NFL. After I'm talking obviously

660
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 6: the top two quarterbacks in this draft Sanders Reward right.

661
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 7: I think the challenges are you looking for a guy

662
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 7: in this draft? Are you looking for a guy in

663
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 7: free agency? Because I think the Sam Darnolds and the

664
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 7: Baker Mayfields of the world, the Genos Smith's of the world,

665
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 7: I think there's some really compelling stories of guys that

666
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 7: they maybe just need a little bit of time to

667
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 7: get their feet underneath of them and learn how to

668
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 7: read defenses at the NFL level and understand the relationship

669
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 7: between the front and what that means for the secondary

670
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 7: rotation based on their sho are they in an underfront

671
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 7: and what does that mean for which safety is gonna

672
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 7: end up? Like all that stuff that all ties together

673
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 7: that the college game is not really conducive to anymore.

674
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 7: It's more, okay, go out there, be an athlete. We're

675
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 7: gonna spread the field and take space where space is available.

676
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 7: So I think about a guy like Trey Lance, who

677
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 7: was a highly drafted pick, has some parallel physical tools.

678
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 7: If you could get a guy like that, preferably in

679
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 7: a multi year deal so he doesn't just come in

680
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 7: for one year and then you dust your hands and say, hey,

681
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 7: we did our part to help develop you. For whoever

682
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 7: you get your next opportunity with, I would be really

683
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 7: keen on an idea like that, and then you get

684
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 7: into maybe some of the high tools players at the

685
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 7: quarterback position, whether that's a Jaln Milroe, if you really

686
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 7: want to lean into athlete at the quarterback position.

687
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: He is kind of Anthony Richardson though, a type of

688
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 5: that quarterback.

689
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 7: He's that niche skill set of you know, he changes

690
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 7: the math in the run game, which is a big

691
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 7: time weapon, but he does need time and development. So

692
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 7: that's why I wouldn't want to just bring a rookie

693
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 7: and to compete with Anthony. I would want somebody that

694
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 7: has at least a little bit of dirt under their nails.

695
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: Level.

696
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's Kyle Krabs with us from the thirty

697
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 2: third team. He knows the NFL draft inside and out right.

698
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: So the defensive side of the ball for the Colts,

699
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: lou Ana Rumos here, now, new defensive coordinator, what draft

700
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: needs do you have for the Colts on that side

701
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: of the ball in order to take that defense to

702
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: the next level. Because individually speaking, and Jeffrey's heard me

703
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: say this a million times, but individually speaking, they've got

704
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: players on that side of the ball in all three

705
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: levels of the defense, even though collectively the last couple

706
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: of years they haven't been able to put it together.

707
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the athleticism on the second level is

708
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 7: really helpful because lou likes to heat you up selectively.

709
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 7: He likes to be aggressive at times. He likes to

710
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 7: change the picture. That's the big buzz in the league

711
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 7: right now. As we want to force you to do

712
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 7: a lot of processing after the snap and get your confirmation,

713
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 7: then your ticks lower and then the pass rush gets there,

714
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 7: no doubt.

715
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: So I think for Indye.

716
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 7: Samson Ebcom with the injury last year was a big

717
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 7: dup punch for me because I'm big fan of his game.

718
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 7: Having player a pass rush presence of what he's capable

719
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 7: of being like when he's healthy, I think is really critical.

720
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 7: When you consider Cincinnati with Trey Hendrickson and how dynamic

721
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 7: he's been as a pass rusher and how impactful he is.

722
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 7: I think the other thing is what does that safety

723
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 7: spot look like? You know, Nick Cross got a bigger

724
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 7: snap share this year, but how many eggs are you

725
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 7: going to put in that basket? And you have some

726
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 7: other expiring contracts back there, you know, safety difference maker

727
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 7: at safety. That Cincinnati defense, they really had it clicking

728
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 7: when they had like von Bell there, and then von

729
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 7: Bell left and they tried to bring in some young

730
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 7: guys to bridge the gap, and they weren't ready to

731
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 7: do it, and you felt the regression in the secondary.

732
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 7: So I think safety and pass rush are the two

733
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 7: big things for me for Indy.

734
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: Let's stay there at safety.

735
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 6: You're gonna know about this young man a whole lot

736
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 6: better than me and Matt No right now, Stark, So

737
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 6: get out of Georgia. Give me top to bottom off

738
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 6: the field. On the field, what do you like about

739
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 6: this young guy?

740
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 7: So he didn't have his best season this year as

741
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 7: far as a production standpoint, but he's the prototype from

742
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 7: a size and stature perspective. He's got ball skills to

743
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 7: play in the nickel and play man coverage in the nickel.

744
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 7: He's had a couple of incredible interceptions down the field

745
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 7: isolated and man and man coverage outside the numbers on

746
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 7: vertical shots, and the body control for a bigger safety

747
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 7: at the catch point like that really pops.

748
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: He's does he start? I mean, is he knits to

749
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: start earnestly.

750
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: I think so because he walked into George as a

751
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 7: true freshman and was one of the starting safeties for

752
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 7: that Georgia defense. It's that Kirby defense is really intense

753
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 7: and complicated, and the safeties you got to tie it

754
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 7: all together, right, and there's a lot of zone match

755
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 7: where you've got to be able to understand how are

756
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 7: the receivers releasing, are they switch releasing? What does that

757
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 7: change for coverage responsibilities for whoever's responsible for three strong

758
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 7: if he goes underneath, it's just like a singular example.

759
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 7: And spacing all of that and processing and understanding all

760
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 7: that is the biggest strength I think that Malachi starts has,

761
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 7: so I think he's been groomed, sense of f Wishman

762
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 7: between the ears to be ready for NFL responsibilities on

763
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 7: the back end.

764
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Talked about this a little bit, but one of the

765
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: things that I'm just so fascinated on the surface with

766
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 2: this draft is just how I don't want to say void,

767
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: but it's almost like going back in time, Kyle. I mean,

768
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: this is like old school smash mouth draft football, right

769
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: when we're talking about running backs and linebackers and guys

770
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: in the trenches. We're not talking about quarterbacks and wide receivers.

771
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 5: I know it's an.

772
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: Isolated thing, but how did we get here within this

773
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: draft where we're talking about the first wide receiver not

774
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: going until you know, the late teens, whereas last year

775
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: that would be that's unheard of, you know, twelve months ago, right.

776
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 7: I think the league has been hurting for a draft

777
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 7: like this for a couple of cycles now where.

778
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: It is big time eating potatoes.

779
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 7: The defensive tackle is an embarrassment of riches that position.

780
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 7: As far as do you do you want those tackles?

781
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 7: Do you want undersized penetration three techniques? Do you want

782
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 7: gap control guys that can play in the A and

783
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 7: B gap and can lock, peak, shed and deconstruct blocks

784
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 7: and protect their linebackers. Like the offensive line, the offensive

785
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 7: tackle group is not as loaded at the top, but

786
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 7: there's a lot of skills specific and scheme specific type

787
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 7: of guys in that regard. And then you mentioned the

788
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 7: linebacker group where you've got six foot four guys with

789
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 7: length You've got and that that's Jahad Campbell from Alabama,

790
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 7: that's Demetrius Knight from South Carolina. You got a one

791
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 7: year starter out of UCLA that I think had the

792
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 7: best tape out of anybody I watched this year in

793
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 7: Carson Sweeshinger. I'm in love with with his tape. I

794
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 7: think he's super dynamic. He's a former walk on that

795
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 7: they developed from a safety to a linebacker and they

796
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 7: had to move somebody else to get a spotform in

797
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 7: the starting lineup after two games this season, and like

798
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 7: the most instinctive linebacker.

799
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: I've watched this season on tape.

800
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 7: So with all of the fanfare around the passing game,

801
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 7: and that's the college direction, right is these guys the

802
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 7: seven on seven culture. You have no time off as

803
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 7: a quarterback or a dB or wide receiver because that's

804
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 7: year round and there's no contented and that's kind of

805
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 7: the roots of the game right now. Are much more

806
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 7: friendly to that, and I think you felt that with

807
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 7: kind of the quality and the depth of some of

808
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 7: the offensive and defensive lines in the league. So this

809
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 7: is a critical draft class, I think for a lot

810
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: of teams that haven't had the investment opportunities for cost

811
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 7: control players in the draft.

812
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 6: Kyle Krabs joining us right here. Last one for me,

813
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 6: I want to talk about the running backs. Who knows

814
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 6: what happens after Jonathan Taylor in this Colts offense. Trey

815
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 6: Sermon was back there last year. One of a couple,

816
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 6: what is this draft? Because I'm hearing from guys like you,

817
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 6: the experts run here. It's a good draft. If you're

818
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 6: a mid round guy and you need a running back,

819
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: mid round team rather you need a running back, this

820
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: is the one to go to.

821
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, this has a lot of different flavors too, whether

822
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 7: it's base Shall Tooton from Virginia Tech who was formerly

823
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 7: at North Carolina A and T went down the Senior Bowl,

824
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 7: had a good week there. Danse build five five eight

825
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 7: and three quarters two hundred eleven pounds, is going to

826
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 7: run low four, forced, high four three late, explosive, outside.

827
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: Zone type of guy.

828
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 7: He had more than if more than fifty percent of

829
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 7: his yards came home breakaway runs.

830
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: He's a big time home run hitter.

831
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 7: But then you got guys like Damian Martinez who is

832
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 7: at Universe of Miami, who is a little bit more

833
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 7: of a grinder between the tackles, had to create a

834
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 7: lot more fir him self after contact in close quarters,

835
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 7: getting contacted in the backfield as another power type back.

836
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 7: And then you got some really dynamic space players like

837
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 7: Trevon Henderson from Ohouse.

838
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: Sorry complement Ohause State, that's a good program, please do.

839
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 7: Traveon Henderson really good in pass protection, really good in

840
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 7: the passing game, struggled to stay healthy in the meat

841
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 7: of his college career. But he reminds me of like

842
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 7: a bigger version of Kyron Williams with the success that

843
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 7: he's had with the Rams, going back to when he

844
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 7: was at Notre Dame, and you could tell his kids

845
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 7: like one two, but he's gonna punch you in the mouth.

846
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 7: You try and come through the B gap and he's

847
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 7: gonna knock you down in pass pro and he's had

848
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 7: a lot of success at the NFL level because that position,

849
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 7: a lot of your opportunities are earned by what can

850
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 7: you do on passing down? So you protect the quarterback

851
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 7: six man protections and can you hold on the football

852
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 7: and protect the football?

853
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 3: So the like.

854
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 7: There's all kinds of flavors and there's multiple of them,

855
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: which makes it a really exciting class for teams that

856
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 7: want to use it.

857
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: Early day three pick late data, yeah, heck yeah. The

858
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: last one for me, this Obdual Carter thing. How do

859
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: you think this this foot fracture and surgery. No surgery

860
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: is going to impact I mean, this is a guy

861
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: that's potentially the first overall pick, and now you know

862
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: he's in danger of teams passing on him because there's

863
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: a lot of unknowns and what he's dealing with to

864
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: the next level in terms of injuries in the long term.

865
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

866
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 7: It's been quite a twelve hours where came up said

867
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 7: he wasn't going to work out because the shoulder, and

868
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 7: then last late last night there was the report about

869
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 7: the foot he might need surgery, and then this morning

870
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 7: they came out and said, oh, just kidding, probably doesn't

871
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 7: need surgery.

872
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: They don't think.

873
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 7: I would say it's an unortho, unorthodox pathway to having

874
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 7: a resume that goes first overall with two injuries that

875
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 7: may ultimately prevent you from checking the boxes, right, Like

876
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 7: this is all risk assessment collection for teams of like

877
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Speaker 7: we're looking for excuses to hurt your resume and ding

878
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Speaker 7: you down. But the fact that he moved from off

879
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Speaker 7: ball to playing full time on the edge this year,

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Speaker 7: I thought as the season unfolded, the run defense for

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Speaker 7: him started to come into place, and obviously the pass.

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Speaker 3: Rush profile is through the roof.

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Speaker 7: So if Tennessee has the ability to find another pathway

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Speaker 7: that they like, or maybe if they're going to like

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Speaker 7: we talked about the very beginning, if they can coax

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Speaker 7: the Giants up from three to go get their guy

887
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Speaker 7: at quarterback, and then the domino effect is you might

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Speaker 7: go be able to go down to three and still

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Speaker 7: get out Bill Carter if you like him more than

890
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Speaker 7: the quarterback. So it's an interesting chess match that they're

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Speaker 7: playing at the top of the board that I think

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Speaker 7: some of their uncertainty that they're trying to put into

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Speaker 7: what they do with their pick is being aided indirectly

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Speaker 7: by this saga.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to hurt him too much

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Speaker 3: when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 6: Kyle Krabs right there before we let you go, A

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Speaker 6: lot of Colts fans are ready.

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Speaker 5: For to watch Leotu Latu.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have one of those seasons where you got

901
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Speaker 6: a dominant edge guy hit this young man coming out

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Speaker 6: of UCLA. You know his history last year. Let's go

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Speaker 6: back three sixty five. What did you like about him?

904
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Speaker 6: Were you surprised at where he went? Or did the

905
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Speaker 6: Colts get a bargain.

906
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Speaker 7: I think they got a bargain for what was probably

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Speaker 7: the most polished and developed pass rush IQ guy in

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Speaker 7: the class. Just the ways in which he won. He

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Speaker 7: doesn't have like the greatest length as far as like

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Speaker 7: his anatomical reach and how he can dictate tackles in

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Speaker 7: their anatomical reach. Brother Heilly has I'm throwing something, no

912
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Speaker 7: doubt seem like I'm sorry, But the way he he

913
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Speaker 7: crafts a rush plan to understand throughout the course of

914
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Speaker 7: a sixty minute game, how is he setting me? How

915
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Speaker 7: do I beat that set? How's he going to react

916
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Speaker 7: when I beat him with that set? And he was

917
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Speaker 7: so far ahead of most of the class and that

918
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Speaker 7: obviously Jared Vers had.

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Speaker 3: A phenomenal season.

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Speaker 7: Chop Robinson from Penn State with the Dolphins, came on

921
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Speaker 7: in the second half of the year. A lot based

922
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Speaker 7: off of athleticism. Leatsu's a good athlete, but it's the

923
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Speaker 7: between the ears sharpness for me that if he stays

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Speaker 7: on the field, I think he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be really We talked to him at the end of

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Speaker 2: the season or near the end of the season, and

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Speaker 2: that's what he said. What you alluded to is that

928
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Speaker 2: in college I was just more sophisticated than a lot

929
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Speaker 2: of these tackles up here, not nearly as much. And

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Speaker 2: I think it was a little bit of frustrating for him,

931
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Speaker 2: but I think that will come. But I think his

932
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Speaker 2: college tape was so stand out ish because he.

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Speaker 5: Was a good athlete and he just got it.

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Speaker 2: He had an arsenal of pass rush moves that you

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Speaker 2: don't see at that level, taking advantage of all the tackles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So, and then when you make that leap, your menu

938
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Speaker 7: gets whittled down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to go through that to learn.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, what do I have to do differently if

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Speaker 7: you do, I have to go to that move? Yeah,

942
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Speaker 7: or maybe I cut down my bag a little bit

943
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Speaker 7: and stay more within my wheelhouse of things that I know,

944
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Speaker 7: play within my traits as compared to playing against guys

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Speaker 7: that aren't technically sound.

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Speaker 6: Hey, we just got smarter thanks to Kyle Krabs at

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Speaker 6: Kyle Krabs on.

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Speaker 5: The Twitter x NFL Draft lead for the thirty third team.

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Speaker 6: And you guys are freaking lucky to have this young man,

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Speaker 6: and also so are we, and we appreciate you stepping

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Speaker 6: up and talking some ball with us. Let's check in

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Speaker 6: after this thing goes a little bit of draft talk,

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Speaker 6: maybe in a couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Please do be happy to hop on with you guys whenever.

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Speaker 5: Awesome. Thanks so much, Kyle, thank you