1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh it's you. I Am 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara suit 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another episode 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tara, and Susanne. 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Hello. 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: Hello. We're talking about Season two, Episode four, road Trip 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: to Harvard, which aired October twenty three, two thousand and one, 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: and this is a special episode I kind of forget, 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's really funny. Out of all things that 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: I distinctly remember about this episode is the outfit that 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Rory wore going to Harvard, because she had this thick 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: gray sweater wrapped around her and I was like, oh, yeah, 13 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: she's going Harvard because of this outfit. 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: I hated the T shirt she had on. I even 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: mentioned it to my husband, like it just was I 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: don't know, it was too tight. And when they were 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: standing there staring at the library and she just was 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: she like standing like just in this weird position, her 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: mouth was hanging open. I don't know, I just I 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: did not like that outfit. 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: I didn't mind it, but I was just like, why'd 22 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: they give her this giant gray sweater to wrap around her? Waist. 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Mind you if you remember back then, it was totally 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: instyl to wrap around yeah, and then it like went 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: away and it was like such a like not cool 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: thing to do. And I always tie my sweater around 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: my waist now, like always because I'm like, well it's hot, 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: so but I'm gonna be cold later. But like for 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: a TV show for them to just like have her 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: wrap around this sweater was it was just so funny 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: to me. I was like, Laurelin doesn't have a sweater on, yeah, 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: or maybe she did, but it wasn't wrapped. I don't know. 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: It was just and the other since we're talking fashion 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: at the end, the last scene, the sideways baseball cap 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: on Rory, that was not working for me. 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of hats, while we're here, the man in 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the diner with this blue, wrinkly bucket hat kiss me 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: off the whole time, and he was right in the shot. 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: And then actually Luke mentioned like, oh, nice hat, like 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm like, no, this hat was so distracting 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: in the diner. It was pissing me off there. You know. 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: I think that we could do like a whole episode 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: about bad hats in this series because there's a problem 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: with hats. 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: It was just wrinkly, Like why why couldn't we like 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: iron it out a little? You know what I mean? 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: It was like they found and also what was the 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: point of the hat? Like, yeah, it wasn't needed. And 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: it was. 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Saying that sarcastically because he was like making fun of it. 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but like I don't know, it 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: was just we didn't need the hat. Yeah, no, it 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: was just it was just funny. I'm so happy you 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: also noticed that hat, because I was like, God, damn, 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: this stupid hat. 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: The hats were bad. 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: You know. The interesting thing about this episode and when 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: it comes to doing our town meeting is when you're 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: out of the town, I don't have much to like 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: call out because we're in such a different place. However, 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: I do know that Harvard is actually UCLA. It is 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: which is the school that you went to? 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: I did? 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: I did? 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: I went to UCLA. So when they first the very 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: first time I saw this episode and I saw them 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: standing there, I'm like, that is UCLA. Like I knew 68 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: it immediately, and I can picture, like I know, watching 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: the whole thing, I could picture exactly where they were 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: in everything. 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's what I was gonna ask. I was gonna say, like, 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: do you know what building these were? And yeah, yeah. 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: So the funny part was that when they first get 74 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: there and they're standing there looking at the gate, when 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: they're looking through the gate, that was in the sculpture garden. 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: But when when the so when the camera's looking at 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: them from the back there in one yeah, but when 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: the camera's looking at them from the front, they're in 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: a completely different place. 80 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: Well you can tell because the lighting. There's sun hitting 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: them from the back or from the side. So then 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I was like, they totally just shot this, Like was 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: it still on UCLA property just a different place. 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on campus. It just was in a different spot. 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I could tell because the lighting and it was bugging 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: me right there. 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed that too. There was another scene too 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: where they were uh oh, when they were at the 89 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: coffee cart and it was sunny, and then when they're 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: walking across the lawn it was all of a sudden overcast. 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is I guess. You know, it's hard 92 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: to do when you're you can't control the weather, right. 93 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Especially if you only have like if you have to 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: get everything done in one day and it takes time 95 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: to shift and move everything. 96 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it can happen. I feel like the chessure Cat 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: was like such a thing, but it was only in 98 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: this episode, right, we don't see it again? 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: They so, yeah, we only saw it in this episode. 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: Although in the the episode where the independence in burns down, 101 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: they mentioned the cheshire Cat, but it doesn't It sounds 102 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: like they're not referring to this place. 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: It's like they just read yeah. 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Because Michelle's on the phone and he's like, is this 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: the cheshire Cat? Do you have any job openings? Like 106 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: the all the fires happening. But they're trying to put 107 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: guests there too, so it wouldn't be close enough if 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: it's chesher Cat, it wouldn't be close enough for them 109 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: to put guests there. 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: No, they took a I think they just pulled road 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: trip to get to the chesshure Cat. 112 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was so I don't know. I 113 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: thought those scenes were hilarious. 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Though, Oh my god, when she literally when they go 115 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: into the room and they open the door and lare 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: realize like, ah, what's wrong. She's like flowers, so many flowers. 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: I have researched this and I didn't come up with anything, 118 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: but there. I don't know if if any of our 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: listeners will remember this, but there was a short story 120 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: I read it in college in an English class called 121 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: The Yellow Wallpaper, and it was about this woman who's 122 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact story, but her husband like 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: puts her, he like puts her. 124 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: In a room. 125 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: It's like a mental health thing, and she starts to 126 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: see the wallpaper like coming alive, and it's like really creepy, 127 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: and she's like kind of descending into further into mental illness. 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: And I almost wonder like if that was a very 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: oblique reference to that short story, because it's the it's 130 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: this yellow floral wallpaper and they're talking about how it's 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: moving because it's you know, it's. 132 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: About the fact I wouldn't be surprised knowing Amy and Dan. 133 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Amy's very literary, so I I but it's 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: it's not a like super well known short story, but 135 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: it just always made me wonder like it just made 136 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: an impression on me when I read it thirty years ago, 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: and so I immediately thought of that when I. 138 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: I loved the moment where they're like we have like 139 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: a nine minute window or whatever time they said to 140 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: go get food and they go down there and everyone's 141 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: bird watching, and I know, we don't. 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: Put things like this on the freaking list. 143 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: It kind of gave us the quirkiness of stars Hollow 144 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: that we didn't get in a different town. 145 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: It really did, like it really would have fit right 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: in with stars Hollow. 147 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't have been surprised if it was like 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: the next town over and then they're like there was 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: a whole like storyline with the Cheshire Like I kind 150 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: of would have liked it. 151 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I thought it was great. And the 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: actress that played Ladawn, I've seen her in other things. 153 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: She was I don't know if you ever saw bless 154 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: this Mess. It was. It only had two seasons. It 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: was with Dax Shephard and Rose Abdu was actually in. 156 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: It, oh okay, and it was very it was. 157 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: About it was kind of the stereotypical story this New 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: York young couple moves to farm country to it was 159 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: like a green Acre's kind of story. Almost. Yeah, it's 160 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: like this town full of quirky people, just like stars Hollow. 161 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: And she was one of the one of the people 162 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: in the town in that series. And she was really 163 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: good and She also played in My Name Is Earl. 164 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: She played them she was Earl's mom for Oh, okay, 165 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: so I've seen her so she was great. And then 166 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody who remembers la Law. Susan Rutan 167 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: was the couple that Rory was talking to when Laurel 168 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: I went to make a phone call and she was, yeah, 169 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: it was for l A Law. So it was nice 170 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: to see her again. 171 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, I have never seen anything they 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: were in, but they were great in this episode. 173 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just the whole, the whole little inn I 174 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: just thought was hilarious. 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: So cute. A couple of call outs I had was 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: some of the scenes at Harvard. I was really like, 177 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: who's whose dorm door is? Just and then you're gonna 178 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: go in it and sit on the bed. Yeah, and 179 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: mind you. I thought it was really funny the like 180 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: you know Susie, like there's a thirty percent chance her 181 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: name is Susie like Lauren or sorry Loralai being like 182 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: quirky like that was really fun, but it was just 183 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: like not realistic to like just walk into someone's dorm 184 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: And also like, don't like dorms. I never lived in 185 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: a dorm. But like both of those buildings have like 186 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: key cards to like scan in, so. 187 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: Yes, they they do. So that part was a little 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: unrealistic because even when I lived in a dorm in 189 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: the nineties, we had to swipe our badge to get 190 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: in like our student id cars. 191 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: And even then your door is not left wide open. 192 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: Well, no, we did. It depends on the dorm that 193 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: you lived in. Because some of the dorms only had 194 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: one bathroom per floor, so it wasn't that uncommon you'd 195 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: prop your door open if you were just gonna run 196 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: to the bathroom and come out. Oh okay, I don't 197 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: know that that was necessarily I mean we saw the room. 198 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: There was no bathroom in there, so. 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: There was barely room for a bed, right, So when. 200 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 2: That part was okay to me because we did do that, 201 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: like you'd prop out it open and run like or 202 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: you'd okay, so you know, take your friend, you know, 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: borrow a pen or something like, you might do that. 204 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: But it was still it made me nervous when she 205 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: was in there though, I'm like, get out of the room, 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: get out of the radow. 207 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: The whole time I couldn't pay attention to the scene 208 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: because I was like, the person living in this room 209 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: is about to walk in. 210 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: And I did notice that when Laurlai took the picture 211 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: of Rory at the desk, she sets her coffee cup 212 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: down and then she leaves without her coffee cup. 213 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: So I did notice that, and also she like completely 214 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: like well, I couldn't at first. I was like, is 215 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: this her notebook? And I'm like, oh no, it's a 216 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: notebook just there and she just like shuts it and 217 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: moves on. But yeah, she loft the coffee cup. 218 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: The lecture hall that they were in. I thought that 219 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: was a cute scene. Marory just like jumps in and 220 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,359 Speaker 2: starts participating. 221 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: She was always yeah, so yes. And then when you know, 222 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: when Laura I is outside looking at the Valedictorians. Okay, 223 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: so I had to stop the episode because they zoomed 224 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: in on one specific person and lorale I kept looking 225 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: at someone named Erica Hilson Palmer, and I was like, 226 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: did I miss something from the show? Like is this 227 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: someone that like I was supposed to know about or 228 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: then I'm like racking my brain of like do we 229 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: see this person in the future? And I found this 230 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: article if you guys google, like who is Erica Hilson 231 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Palmer and Gilmore girls. It's like the top article that 232 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: comes up. It's really long, so I'm not going to 233 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: read it for you, But basically they were they think, 234 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: like there is a theory could be wrong that this 235 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: is someone that Laura I knew like growing up, because 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: it said she graduated in nineteen ninety and it would 237 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: have lined up with when Laura I graduated college. So 238 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: it literally just could have been someone she knew, and 239 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: she's looking at like the life she maybe could have had. 240 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I partially agree with that. I don't think she 241 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: actually knew that person, but I think she did. I 242 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: think she was thinking this could have been me because 243 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: she would have been the class of nineteen ninety and 244 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: she did. At the end of the episode, when she's 245 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: back at Luke's diner, she says to him how she 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: was thinking about all the things she had to give up, Yeah, 247 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: because of her situation and the things that might have 248 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: been that weren't ever gonna happen now. So I think 249 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: it's true that she's thinking about the possibilities of like 250 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: what if I had been able. 251 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: To go to college because of her graduating years. 252 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think she necessarily knew that person. 253 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what people were saying, like it could 254 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: have been specifically about the year because there's only one 255 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: valedictorian a year. I would think, yeah, typically typically, so 256 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: it would have been nineteen ninety. But I think it 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: just threw me off because I was like, and it 258 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: kept going. It wasn't like a second like it was. 259 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: It showed her, and then it showed Laura, and then 260 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: it showed her again, and I'm like, is this something 261 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I missed missing? 262 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they showed it again after Laura, after Rory 263 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: comes out of the classroom, they start to walk away, 264 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: she like looks at it again as they're passing by. 265 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: So they aid a point to show it for sure. 266 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: To show it. Yeah, But you know, the more I 267 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: think about it, it definitely had to do with the 268 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: year because I kind of I didn't fully connect the 269 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: dots of I was just thinking of the person and 270 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: not the year. But when you say at the end 271 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: where she was talking to Luke about like, oh what 272 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: could have been and this and that, it was more of, Yeah, 273 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: if she was graduating that year and she didn't have Rory, 274 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: what would life be like? 275 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? My only bone to pick with this episode is 276 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: when they come home and they pull up to the 277 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: house and lorele I sees there's like, we don't know 278 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: yet what she's seeing, but she gets a look on 279 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: her face because she sees something. And then it turns 280 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: out she's looking at the hoopa that's still in front 281 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: of the front door. I when I first watched the 282 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: episode way back when I thought Max was gonna be 283 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: sitting there. 284 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh, and when she's. 285 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: Looking at the hoopa, I was kind of disappointed, like 286 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: because we never saw Max getting the news that the 287 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: wedding is off. Oh, you're right, And so I've always 288 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: felt like, I mean, that's kind of just how Amy 289 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: Sherman Palladino works, Like she leaves the important things to 290 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: your imagine, like she'll hint at it, but yeah, you 291 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: leave stuff to your imagination. But it's that that one 292 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: thing is just kind of always bugged me that we 293 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: never saw Max getting the news. So I assume that 294 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Laura I must have called him at some point during 295 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: she didn't leave him at the altar because the wedding 296 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: hasn't happened. 297 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: It hasn't happened, you know, I'm gonna say she never 298 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: called him, and like Suki made the call or something. 299 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, that's a lot to put on Suki, though. 300 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Suki told the whole town. 301 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: Well, but Suki told Miss Patty and. 302 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: The true, true, true. 303 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: But that would be a lot to put on your 304 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: best friend, Like can you call my fiance and tell 305 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: him I'm not going to marry him? 306 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Like that's but just knowing knowing Laurela, I, I I 307 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: don't think that she called him right away, mind you. 308 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: I think she called him eventually, but I feel like 309 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: she left town and then decided when she call him. 310 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she called him before they left town. 311 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: But but then when they meet up later, like there's 312 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: something there's there's an episode I want to say, season 313 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: three where she meets up with him again at when 314 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: they were going to be on CNN or something, and 315 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: when Paris finds out she didn't get into Harvard anyways. 316 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: That episode, she runs into him and she makes the 317 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: comment about how like I never talked to you or 318 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: we never talked about it. She says something about how 319 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: they never talked about it. But I can't believe that 320 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: she just didn't tell him at that, like she couldn't 321 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,359 Speaker 2: just disappear. 322 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: She probably just left a voicemail, to be honest. 323 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: And that could be it. Yeah, maybe she did, but 324 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: we just never know, so we just have to imagine 325 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: what we think happened, because they never do tell us. 326 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was up to me, I would think 327 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: she made the decision, left town and was like, how 328 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: am I going to tell him this? And then she 329 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: called him when she knew that he wasn't going to 330 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: be home. She left a voicemail and that was the 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: end of it. And they never had because I think 332 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: even if like he did pick up the phone hypothetically, 333 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like that would be an exchange of a conversation, but 334 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: it sounds like from and I don't remember the scene. 335 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: I know, I remember the gist of the scene. I 336 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what was said that you're talking about 337 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: in that episode, but from that, it makes me feel 338 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: like he never got to say his piece, and so 339 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: it was just it was larelized decision and that was it. 340 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: And like then at the end when they're at the 341 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Gilmour's house and she's telling Emily, and Emily's like whose 342 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: decision was? And she was like mine. It was very 343 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: just like there was no conversation. I made the decision. 344 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: I did like going to that scene. I did like 345 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: the banter about the gift, yes, and I did like 346 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: that Emily didn't give her that heart of a time, like, 347 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: she didn't really give her hard time. She kind of 348 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: was just like. But then again, I think that Emily 349 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: didn't want her to get married, so maybe internally she 350 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: was happy about it. 351 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Emily is still holding out for Lorelei 352 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: to find somebody that is of the appropriate So standing 353 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: yes for Emily's opinion, but yeah, I think I think 354 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: she had kind of accepted it because she knows that 355 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 2: she can't. She's not gonna change Laurelized mind on anything. 356 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: So I think she was you know, she got them 357 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: a gift and all that, but I think she was 358 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: happy that it wasn't gonna happen. 359 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: And the next episode is I am so excited And 360 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: I know our producer Jackie has never seen this either. 361 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: Next episode is season two, episode five, Nick and Nora 362 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: sit and Nancy and if you don't know, this is 363 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: where we see Jess for the first time. 364 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite episodes in the entire 365 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: seventh season. 366 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: It's so good on again. Okay, so I didn't know 367 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: this is the one that Jess. So you guys did 368 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: a little spoil what we I bet you We're gonna 369 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: get off the zoom and Jackie's gonna go watch it 370 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: the second. 371 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: It's so good. I love it. 372 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I feel like the next episode. Do 373 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: we need Jackie, We need you to give us your 374 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: take on your first impression of Jess because of someone, 375 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like to have that feeling again, satisfaction. 376 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: I will for sure write notes and give you my take. 377 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: Okay cool. 378 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: Jackie will jump in next week and we'll talk to 379 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: her about it. But until next week, meeting adjourn everybody, 380 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at I Am all 381 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.