1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Draft Prospect Review podcast on Patriots dot 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Com Radio. Welcome to the NFL Draft. The Draft Prospect 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Review Podcast is your source for all the latest news 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: and information on the NFL Draft. The new England Patriots 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: Flag now here to preview the defensive lineman. The writers 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: of Patriots dot Com. Time once again for another Draft 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: podcasts review. Here at Toilets Stadium, Mike do So, Evan 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Lazar and me Paul Piullo, Grandpa Paul, here to talk 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: about some defensive lineman and we will definitely spend some 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: time on both the edge guys and the defensive tackles. 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: And I'm going to start with the edge because I think, 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm the host and I get to 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: decide these things. But more importantly, I think it's more 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: of a position of need, and I think it's a 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: pretty good class. You know, overall of the edge guys, 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: based on not my thoughts and observations, but those of 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: some of the guys that do this, we're a living 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: that I would respect. Guys like Daniel Jeremiah, I think 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: has been pretty outspoken about the quality of the edge class. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think it would be a first 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: round consideration, although there has been some news lately about that. 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: But this is definitely a spot where Matthew Judon, you know, 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: sort of creeping into his thirties, Josh Uche coming off 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: a career high eleven and a half sacks, but also 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: entering a contract year, a free agent year. So I 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: think this is something that the Patriots could be interested in. 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: How do you guys see it? Yeah, I mean not 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: really an unknown quantity at this position for the Patriots too. 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: And I just I asked myself what happens if Matthew 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Judon gets hurt, Like, if Matthew Judon gets hurt, it's 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: like co read across the front of the defense. So 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a position to need. And I've said 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: this many times, and no matter how many times I 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: jump into this position, Coup, I just can't really seem 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: to get a beat on who I like and who 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: would fit. I don't know if it's their drafting of 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of years of taking guys like ouch, 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, Imphony Jennings is more in the model, Like 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I think Amphony Jennings and like, yeah, that's a Patriots 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: type guy. So I'm still kind of gravitating towards those guys. 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they are, so I just 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have a good beat, and 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna take one of these guys and 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: be like, didn't even see it coming, and I already 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: see that's actually I feel exact same way, because there's like, 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's fifteen guys that might go on 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: the top one hundred and this it's a really good class, 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: but all of them are very skill set specific, right, 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: So just going off the first round to get into 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: some of the names, Lucas van Ness is a classic 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: power rusher. His nickname is Hercules. He's a speed to 52 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: power bull rusher. But then you have a guy like 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: me and sounds like Paul has no interests. And then 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: but then you have guys like a Nolan Smith who 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: is three two hundred and forty pounds and is just 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: a screamer off the edge with great athleticism. They've gone 57 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: both directions. To your point, they have an Anthony Jennings 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: and they have a Josh Uch. So which one do 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: they covet more? At the top of the draft if 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: they're going to take one of these guys, and let's 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: say the top seventy five picks, who which direction are 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: we going in? Are we going speedy and explosive in 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: bendy or are we going power? Because there's a little 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: bit of it's a pick your flavor kind of draft 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: amongst this edge group, and not a lot in terms 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: of consensus separating basically, the guys that are going to 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: go ten through seventy five. You could convince me that 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: any of those guys could go ten from seventy five. 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: So you're really talking about who do you like out 70 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: of this group, which is tough. Mike. I mentioned that 71 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots have sort of been in the news a 72 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, on the periphery with Tyree Wilson, 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: kid out of Texas Tech, first round pick of top 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: half of the first round, first round pick, and there 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: were some reports that the Patriots have set to meet 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: with him. Your thoughts on, you know, maybe but that report, first, 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: do you think that might mean something more than just 78 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: due diligence? No, I mean, I think it's it's good. 79 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: We've talked about if other positions are taken at fourteen, 80 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like this, you know, maybe he 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: slips through the cracks, but I think he's just an Adonis. 82 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean I had to pull up his side. I 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: mean thirty almost thirty six inch arm six six two seventy. 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: You know, It's another part that confuses me with this 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Evan is the way that they kind of play Teatrick 86 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Wise on the edge on one side, hand down defensive end, 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: and then they play Jude on and they you know, 88 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of rotation there, so what that that 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: adds another layer of it. So for him, you know, 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: I think you can upgrade somebody like Teatrick Wise. I 91 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: think that this guy could probably be you know, maybe 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: hand down, maybe he drops a little bit, but huge guy. 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: And that's like if you're talking about fourteen overall, I 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: think he's the player that would be in that range 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: that you'd have to grab. Yeah, Mike and I are 96 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: doing dueling big boards right our top fifty fits and 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have Tyree Wilson on my big board spoiler alert, 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: because I didn't think you'd be there at fourteen. I 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't think it was a realistic. I always say you 100 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: got to look yourself in the mirror, and if that 101 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna put Will Anderson on this list, 102 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: and I kind of felt the same way with Tyree Wilson, 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: but to the point that we were just making he 104 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: is a power rusher. He is. His power when you 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: watch him on film, is overwhelmingly dominant. But he's not 106 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: He's stiff, he's rigid, he's not a bender. He doesn't 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: have great flexibility. I don't necessarily want to drop him 108 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: off the edge either like into a low coverage or 109 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: something like that. So he's a prototypical big long almost 110 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: like a Dietrick Wise. I think he's like souped up 111 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise would probably be a first round Teachercquise Right, 112 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: a decent comp you know. I think there's a little 113 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: bit of like George karloftis to his game, to the 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: way how powerful he is. But I think the arm 115 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: length really stands out, and that's Dietrich Wise. But maybe 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: the league isn't as high on a player like that 117 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have that prototypical fifteen sacks season built 118 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: he's a little bit different than that. Yeah, and Nevin 119 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: you mentioned and actually Mike you two about the different 120 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: shapes and sizes these guys come in, and Evan mentioned 121 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Nolan Smith as being one of the really smaller guys 122 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: sort of a little bit bigger than that, but kind 123 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: of that athlete. The kid from Auburn, you know, Derek 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: call is a guy that I haven't watched a lot 125 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: of tape of in this pre draft process, but I 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: do remember him a lot from watching Auburn games, and 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: he was a guy that sort of needed to be 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: accounted for. I don't I'm just curious that you guys 129 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: maybe maybe a first round talent now, I don't know 130 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: if he's a little later than that now, ye just 131 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't mentioned big boards. He's one of 132 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: the guys that I that I put on and I 133 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: mean I don't know exactly where where he falls in that, 134 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't know the Day one I was thinking 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: him more of a Day two guy. Um, But yeah, 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: I think he heat to me fits kind of like 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: all the profile, the size profile, the captain profile, you know, 138 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: those kind of things. Um, athletic, he just seems more 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: traditional to me. He seems like if we're talking about 140 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Patriots kind of guys, he seems to me like one 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: of their guys. He's got incredibly violent and explosive hands, 142 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: like you that guy sets an edge better than anybody else. 143 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: And I know we've heard it so many times with 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: Bill just set the edge, set the edge, set the edge, 145 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: and how important that is. You are not going to 146 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: have a problem with the edge on Derek Hall's sign. 147 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: It just you know, So don't think that this is 148 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: just sort of like coach speaking stuff when we say 149 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: these kinds of phrases. I would just I would point 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: to a guy like Dietrich Wise because I think most 151 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Patriots fans would look and say, wow, he had a 152 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: really good year last year. I would agree. I think 153 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: it was his best year by far. You know, when 154 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: he was best at last year? That was an improvement, 155 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: was that what Evans talking about. I thought he was 156 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: a guy that you could run at earlier in his 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: career and you couldn't do that last year. I think 158 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: that's probably the biggest growth in his game, was being 159 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more well rounded as a guy who 160 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: could set the edge and not be victimized in that. 161 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: In that regard, I mean, he looked like a guy 162 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: like Hucha. I mean that's not really not really his thing. 163 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, he just don't have That's why he's not 164 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: on the field every down. All right. That's the biggest 165 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: thing is I just looked it up. Och was on 166 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: the field for thirty eight percent of the snaps last year. 167 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: So even though he had that big sack season, when 168 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: you start to get into are they going to give 169 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: him a second contract? And what is the type of 170 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: player that they would pick in the top fifty of 171 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: a draft or even in the first round. You got 172 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: to get more than forty percent snap production out of 173 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: it first round pick. That guy's got to be able 174 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: to be on the field for all three downs. Derek 175 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Hall is a really fun player. I liked him a 176 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: lot on film. I liked watching him in games. Yeah, 177 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: like I said, not as familiar now, but he's a 178 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: stiffer guy too though he's not He's not a u J. 179 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: He's a power set the edge, great hands, like I said, 180 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there's like clips of him like in pregame, 181 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: like doing his his exercise with his hand technique and 182 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: you're just like you know, karate master before before we 183 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: move on to the big uglies inside um any day 184 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: two three kind of guys that you guys, this is 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: what Evan has to go to with. Evan has to know. 186 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Evan has to carry me on this one, because this 187 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: is exactly the area where I just feel like there's 188 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a guy. I mean, Colby Wooden is one 189 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: name that I've highlighted that I but again, I go 190 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: back and forth on some of these guys, um that 191 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I just I don't know exactly where the value is. 192 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: There is the value going to be those lesser athletic 193 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: guys who were stout, because I think they need those. 194 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you see Jay is going 195 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: to be a free agent and you need that kind 196 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: of guy too. Yeah. I think the one guy in 197 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: the first round we haven't mentioned Jets Miles Murphy from Clemson. 198 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Two things, though they don't draft from Clemson, that's one 199 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: of those schools that they have a that's one of 200 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: those things that they have a thing against. But and 201 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: I also would say with Murphy, the one thing that 202 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: I have a problem with, or I have trouble with 203 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: evaluating him, is that he's he doesn't dominate on tape ever, 204 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: but he's just good at everything, but he's not great 205 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: at any one thing. And those types of guys at 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: fourteen overall, I just want somebody that I can turn 207 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: on a film of him in college and be like, Wow, 208 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: that was a great game by so and so, and 209 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I just can't really I don't have that game for 210 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Miles Murphy, which I think is a little bit of 211 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: a pause. When you're that early in the draft. You 212 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: want somebody that can take over, and I didn't necessarily 213 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: see him do that. But Day two I think is 214 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: really the sweet spot for this edge class because there's 215 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: just so many guys that I think are going to 216 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: come off the board there. I'm not particularly high on 217 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Isaiah Fosky from Notre Dame, but I think that he's 218 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: a guy that's maybe like Day two Miles Murphy, where 219 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: he's not flashy, he's not gonna take over games, but 220 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a liability out on the field either, 221 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: and you're gonna kind of be set at his spot. 222 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna butcher his name. But Uzama from Kansas State, 223 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Felix Usama. I really like him as more of like 224 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: a hybrid hand in the dirt, stand up guy off 225 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the edge. Will McDonald has a lot of love from 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: the draft media. He's got some bend and he's somebody 227 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: that has that that repertoire, right, you know, you talk 228 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: about a toolbox like that guy's got a whole toolbox, 229 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: a pass rush moves, which I think people uh kind 230 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: of a are cool with, you know, they like that 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: type of stuff on film. And Bjjilari from LSU and 232 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: really all the gay from LSU to his teammate, they're both. 233 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: They're both good Day two guys as well. So those 234 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: are some of them. Keyon White. I guess it's probably 235 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: the last one in that that grouping, that tier of guys. 236 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: And I think all those guys, like I said at 237 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: the beginning, are do you like chocolate ice cream? And 238 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: you know like cookies and cream? Like which way do 239 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: you want to go? We need ice cream? And I'll 240 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: mention you know, Olari just brother playing for the Giants now, 241 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: so uh some bloodlines there. And also one last guy, 242 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: old friend Andre Carter the second who played an army 243 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: just like his dad, really tall, really long. Not I 244 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: can't say he's taught not the same, it's not, it's 245 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: not the same. We've had this argument. Yes, I don't remember, 246 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: somebody brought up because he's an average prostet. Yeah I 247 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: thought it was his son, I really did. It's not 248 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: it's not his son. Really no, it's not. But Andre 249 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Carter is the same, like very similar build. We talk 250 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot about guys that rise up the board post season, 251 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: right in terms of Senior Bowl combine risers. He's gone 252 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: the other fall like an anchor, like sunk to the 253 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean. We don't need to spend any 254 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: time with him. I just I was only bringing him 255 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: up because I thought it was Andrea Carter's son. So yeah, 256 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: he had some like something buzz going into the draft process, 257 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: and now he's not even touching the third round. So 258 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: obviously Jaylen Carter leads us off on the inside and 259 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: just some controversy with where he's gonna end up going. 260 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people felt like he was the number 261 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: one overall pick, right, um, you know, really no questions 262 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: asked with that caliber of a player. Obviously, Carolina didn't 263 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: trade up to draft a defensive tackle like you know, 264 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: so we know they're going to take a quarterback. But 265 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: he could now go anywhere really in that top half 266 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: of the first round. I know it. It's crazy because 267 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: he's really good. I mean, it's just it's hard now. 268 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just one of those players where I like, yep, 269 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: that's that's easy to throw him in. He'll be He'll 270 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: be awesome. But I ask some some legal issues. We'll see. 271 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: I guess how that allay. Curious to get Paul's perspective 272 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: on it, because to me, those types of guys Paul 273 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: are off the board for the Patriots, Like I just 274 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that guys that are getting mixed up 275 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: in that type of stuff. Two things, I think you're 276 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: as a rule, I think you're right. I agree with you. 277 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: I do think there are exceptions with First of all, 278 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: if it has anything to do with violence against women, 279 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: forget it. They're not taking them. You know, like, and 280 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: this came up, this is probably not your main to 281 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the Defensive Lineman podcast here, but you know, Kareem Hunt 282 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: is still available, and you know Patriots signed James Robinson. 283 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: You're like, whoa could I had Kareem Hunt for probably 284 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: the same they're not. I don't think they're gonna go 285 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: there with a guy who has that in his history. 286 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: So this is not necessarily it's not related at all 287 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: to domestic battery or anything like that. But you could 288 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,119 Speaker 1: make an argument that Dui is sort of on the periphery, 289 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: and you know whether or not reckless driving, dragging. You know, 290 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: it's obviously as serious, serious enough that it's it's causing 291 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: teams to take a step back. So the talent is obvious. 292 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: We'll have to see where he ends up landing. But 293 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I would agree with Evans overall assessment. A lot of 294 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: the those guys, especially in the first round. I think 295 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: you want your first rounders to be pretty clean. Yeah, 296 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: character wise, yeah, I mean I think for me too. 297 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean we talk a little bit about just fit 298 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: in within the Patriots scheme, and I do like these 299 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: this defensive tackle class. I feel like there's some good 300 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: nose tackles, like you know, day two, day three, Like 301 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: not Day two, day three guys. You know you could 302 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: take to compete with with Carl Davis, But you know, 303 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Kalijah Cancy Like watching him, I'm like, would they ever 304 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: take you know, a six foot one, two hundred and 305 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: eighty pound just absolute wrecking ball that gets into the backfield. 306 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't really seem like them, But at the same time, 307 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: it's like you need something to change, get to get 308 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: the defense over the hump. And and I just I 309 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: can't He's the kind of guy I can't really ignore 310 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: and it would probably be really off the beaten path 311 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: for them with a guy like that, but you can 312 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: make it a case for it. I'm torn on Cancy because, 313 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: on the one hand, I think that the smart thing 314 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: is to not be like, oh, he's just Aaron donn right, right, 315 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: because oh, he went to Pittsburgh and he's got the 316 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: similar skill set. And the reason why Aaron Donald slip 317 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: out of the top ten in his draft was not 318 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: because of film. He had some of the best film 319 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: in the draft. It was because of his size, and 320 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: it just happened that he was able to overcome it 321 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: and it worked out. What's the chances that Cancy's the opposite, right, 322 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: And I think that that's a little bit of a 323 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: risk there. I also just can't see them that, to me, 324 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: is a guy that Bill would only play thirty to 325 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: forty percent of the snaps like Josh Jay, like you're 326 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: only playing on passing downs like easily, right, I mean 327 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of like that player, which just it's a get 328 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: up field. He gets off the ball and he gets 329 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: into the backfield quick. He certainly has some moments though, 330 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: where you you if you close your eyes, you'd be like, oh, 331 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: that that's Aaron Donald right, Like, you know that he 332 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: has those moments. There's no doubt about it. So the way, 333 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: I have to just ignore the Clemson guy too, because 334 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: we don't draft Clemson Buzzie like he's he's exact. Him 335 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: and Miles Murphy are like the same thing, but they 336 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: just played a little bit different positions. Uh, Brozzie's is 337 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: got a little bit more streaks of dominance on film, 338 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: but it's not a much more. And he's got some 339 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: injury history too, which is a concern. I saw just 340 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: real quick, I saw like high school film with him playing. 341 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys caught that on that, 342 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: but it was absolutely ridiculous. It's just somebody tweeted out, 343 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: but it was him, just like it was like assault 344 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: going on in the field, like just grabbing people and 345 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: throwing them down. It was crazy. So give me again, 346 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: and we like to I like to wrap up all 347 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: of these with some of the lower round prospects, and 348 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: I think defensive tackle. The pageots are always going to 349 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: take lineman. They have eleven picks. They're gonna take lineman 350 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. So give me some 351 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: some candidates. I can tee a few up. KeAndre Colburn 352 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: from Texas was one I took in my latest mock 353 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: that you know, just fits that kind of interior. Where 354 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: was the Shrine Bowl guy? Yeah, so there's another part. 355 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean other Shrine Bowl team, but him and Ajoma, 356 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: both Texas guys, were at the Shrine Bowl and they 357 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: were two of the best players on the field. But 358 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: that's you know, and again tie it to like Lawrence 359 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: guy Devon gotcha thirty years old, getting towards the end. 360 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: You need these former kind of defensive end, big bodies 361 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: to play inside. I think somebody like him, and I 362 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: gotta throw in local kid Gerald Clark, the I talked 363 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: to at the combine. Just again another you know, big wingspan, 364 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: big body, interior, space eat kind of kind of type 365 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: that that they like. So and then when you're when 366 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about those those kinds of guys, you know 367 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: it sounds strange, but throw Barmore in there. You know, 368 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Barmore's now going to be in his third year, so 369 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: if he can put it together all of a sudden 370 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: this time next year, you're like, well, you know, he's 371 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: appending free agents. So it is an area that you 372 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: have to look at some depth. Yeah, that's crazy just 373 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: to think that you're already in year three for Christian Barmore. 374 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: But a couple of guys that maybe more in the 375 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: top one hundred, but I think are kind of in 376 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: the in that day two early day three reigned for 377 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots. One of my favorite prospects in this draft 378 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: is a added wama At, a boire from North Northwestern 379 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: who killed the combine. Has moments where you're just freakish 380 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: kind of lateral agility and get off on the football. 381 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: More of an interior rusher. I compared him to Ed 382 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Oliver on the big board. He's like two eighty six 383 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: foot one two eighty so he's kind of, um, the 384 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: the cancie. You know, it's getting all the buzz. But 385 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: adibuare Is is somebody that I think is going to 386 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: get a little bit more as we get closer here. 387 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: But the classic Patriots guy. And I was it Saban 388 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: who revealed that Bill goes to the combine to scout 389 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: Scott the booties, Scot the butts the butt who's got 390 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: the guy say that the word on here. I don't 391 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: want to be I don't want to be Alex and 392 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: swear on the radio but that was very poor to me. Uh. 393 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: Mazzie Smith from Michigan. That guy has a big old 394 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: keyster and he is a very difficult human being, uh 395 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: to move off the line of scrimmage. I think that 396 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: the decent comp is like a Divon god Shaw type player, 397 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: somebody that probably is best as a shade but could 398 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: play straight up on the nose as well. Um, But 399 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: if you just need somebody that's gonna eat blocks, it's 400 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: gonna take on a double team and then occasionally is 401 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe going to show some pressing shed technique of his own. 402 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: I think Mozzi Smith is that type of prototypical two 403 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: gap nose tackle type players. And then there's two guys 404 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: that I think are interesting more in that bar More 405 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: type of mold who have some size but have some 406 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: real explosiveness in Keanu Betton from Wisconsin and Grevon Dexter 407 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: from Florida that I think are two guys are gonna 408 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: probably be a third or fourth round picks. Benton has 409 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: some really freakish moments of game wrecking ability to rush 410 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: the passer and just get off blocks and move lad early, 411 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: and Dexter is one of those guys that has a 412 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: little bit of inconsistency to his game. But when he's 413 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: when he's on and you turn on that film, it's like, 414 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: who's the first guy off the ball, Like, who's the 415 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: guy that's getting in the neutral zone the fastest? Grevon 416 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Dexter certainly has that. And then lastly uh siaka Ica 417 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: from Baylor um Danny Shelton, Yeah, probably the best of 418 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: the nose tackle kind of group. Yeah, he's he's like 419 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pounds, like he that is a 420 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: typical typical nose tackle. Like there's he's not gonna play 421 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: in passing situations. He can play on f in ten 422 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: goal line, short yardage that sort of thing, and good 423 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: luck moving that dude that that guy is a freaking 424 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: tank in the middle. So those are some of the 425 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: big boys. But I really like the guys like Benton 426 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: and Dexter. If you're talking about Paul just bringing up 427 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Christian Barmore's rookie deal and everything like that, if you're 428 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: looking for that next Barmore, I think those two guys 429 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: probably fit that prototype the best because Barmore's three ten. 430 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a big he's a bigger guy, 431 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: so he's not like these cancies, you know, or the 432 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Ediboires who are these finesse pass rushers, and like Mike, 433 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, some of the smaller guys Mike bringing up 434 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: Dominique Easley. So you can't rule any of these guys out. 435 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: They've taken the big three hundred plus pound guys and 436 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: they've taken some of the smaller two hundred and eighty 437 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: pound guys too that they have an eye toured the 438 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: penetration and that interior pass rush. You know, think back, 439 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, put it in the way back machine to 440 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: a guy like Jarvis Green that wasn't the biggest guy 441 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: in the world, but filled a role, played a part time, 442 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: you know in terms of percentages, you know, snap percentage, 443 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: but really productive in that kind of role. They've kind 444 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: of been searching for guys like that since now ideally 445 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: you get a guy like Barmore who's got the size 446 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: to hold up and the athleticism to pressure the pocket too. 447 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: So that's that's when you're really there's a lot of 448 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: the Jarvis screens, but the like Ty Warrens that those 449 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: guys don't really come up anymore because those guys are 450 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: now playing on the nose like they don't play them 451 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: as three four ends anymore in the college games. So 452 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: it's becoming one of those running back spots. Yeah, I 453 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: can get one in the sixth round. Yeah, but I 454 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: like that. Mike mentioned the Texas guys. Dante Still from 455 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: West Virginia is another guy that had a really good 456 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: um week at the Shrine Bowl that maybe they'd be 457 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: interested in later on in the draft. There's a couple 458 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: of those guys like Habaka Boldonado who's from Rome, Italy, 459 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: and so he hasn't been playing football for very long, 460 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: but he had a really, really good year last year 461 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: at pitt and is somebody that I think could get 462 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: even better as a pro. He's got the athletic athletic ability, 463 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: it's like a uf SEE fighter. Like early on that 464 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: was sort of the track that he wanted to take 465 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: and he's got some of that ability. But he's just 466 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: raw and needs to play more American football, So maybe 467 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: he gets there eventually. He said late day three guys, 468 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: and I named a bunch of top one. Now that's 469 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: that's fine. It's that that's what they come to these 470 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: podcasts where they want to hear about some of these 471 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: names and try to figure out some of the skill 472 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: sets that go along with the names, and Mike and 473 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: Evans certainly gave you a lot to choose from. We're 474 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: working our way through, guys. I think we only have 475 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: a couple of positions left um as we wind our way, 476 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: as we record this, I think we're the big ones 477 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: running back just about just about two weeks away. I 478 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: hate it from the draft, so we we are not done. 479 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: We are done with the defensive linemen for today, but 480 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: we are not done. We'll have more on our draft 481 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: podcast reviews. Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, 482 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Google Play, and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, 483 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: please rate and review us. 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