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Speaker 2: But you're a guest in my home.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're

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Speaker 3: in the backyard. We're deep into the holidays at this point.

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Speaker 3: The holidays are all around us. That's exciting. I hope

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Speaker 3: you're taking advantage of, you know, the extended holiday hours

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Speaker 3: at your favorite retailer, this sort of thing. It's a

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Speaker 3: great time to buy gifts for your if you're you know,

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Speaker 3: Let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is just wonderful.

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Speaker 3: It's John Milheiser. John, Welcome to. I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 2: Ah, thank you for having me. I love your yard,

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Speaker 2: the greeneries gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much. I'm not sure what to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're recording this at four pm, so I figure it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, better dress warm.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we've got a layered look happening. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm gonna be putting my jacket

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Speaker 2: The sun's last dish of warmth. Yes, it so it

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Speaker 2: Please do so a part of the show. Keep layering up.

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Speaker 3: There is something I want to ask you about. You

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Speaker 2: Numerous times, Yes, and I feel like the most recent

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Speaker 2: you had jury duty.

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Speaker 2: I did well on the interview for jury duty. I

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Speaker 2: and that's fine. Yeah, so oh what a trap?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you put in a real effort to get

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Speaker 3: And then six weeks I wonder, I just the summer

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Speaker 2: Well, we weren't allowed to talk to the other fellow

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Speaker 2: But for what I did to keep the time pleasant

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Speaker 2: Yeah, grab my lunch. I realized my first day that

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is very sweet for yourself, for myself, a

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So the lunch was in the car, grabbed

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Speaker 2: It should be a hustling, bustling part of town. But

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Speaker 3: Oh from I mean famously from Blade Runner. That's near

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Speaker 3: Grand Central Market, right.

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Speaker 2: And I found Grand Central Market like on the sixth week,

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Speaker 2: It's over. Yeah, they said, like you can talk about

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Speaker 3: We ended up getting earning that sixth grand We don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Oh, how fascinating. And wait, where did the con artists

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Speaker 2: He was their landlord. They to the house. Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: It didn't need to be six weeks. They kept having

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Speaker 3: It's like a real that feels like a grizzly murder case,

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Speaker 3: At some point where you like exhausted, where you're like,

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Speaker 2: Third week, the romance of it kind of all left,

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Speaker 3: I was kind of like, you've seen all of downtown.

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Speaker 2: At this point, my lunch bit with the notes got tiresome.

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Speaker 2: Did you write a note every single day of the thing?

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Speaker 3: Incredible? Good for you, Good for you. Well, you know,

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 3: I was really excited to have you here today.

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Speaker 2: I was excited to come.

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Speaker 3: I thought, John will come over, we'll have a good time.

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Speaker 3: I want wanted to talk about jury duty, hear about it,

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was. I said gifts.

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Speaker 3: Oh, common mistake.

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Speaker 2: I said gifts. I know, I'll bring one. Okay, well

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Speaker 3: It's beautifully wrapped in kind of a hologram paper. Should

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Speaker 2: I would love that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it here. This is you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: didn't cause me any trouble.

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Speaker 2: Save the ribbon.

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Speaker 3: I love the ribbon. Okay, here we go on. Alisa's

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Speaker 2: It's thick, it's strong. You can reuse it, save the paper,

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Speaker 2: use it as a clothing jacket. Let's see well opening,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you've really got to see you probably. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: is there an animal in here that's opening it from here?

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Speaker 2: This is here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're opening. There's tape all over the box. Continue

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Speaker 3: This is uh, we've got some tissue. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: Save the tissue. Yes, we're coming out, coming out, and

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Speaker 2: now it's a gift bag inside the gift back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Save the ribbon. I'm opening. I'm opening. Now we've got

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Speaker 3: We're pulling it out, and then we've got a little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gorgeous elvet bag and kind of a midnight blue.

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Speaker 3: We're opening. We're pulling out. This doesn't feel like a

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Speaker 3: gift rap. Oh, this is very sweet. It's a Bridger's nook, apples,

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Speaker 3: cinnamon spice, white birch, country cryan candle.

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Speaker 2: Yes, why did you bring this? I made it, mad,

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Speaker 3: Oh, it smells great. Is candle making new to your life?

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Speaker 3: How did you get into this?

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Speaker 2: Well? I kept buying jars that I thought were really

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Speaker 2: the glue to stick the wick to the bottom. And

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00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 2: then I started with beeswax, but that was too expensive,

440
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: and so I do soy wax and.

441
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Speaker 3: What is the process? Then? Walk me, you know, a

442
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: bird's eye view of candle making. I'm very curious.

443
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: Well, you get sausage jars from Trader Joe's, or garlic

444
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: minced garlic jars from Trader Joe's. Or you go to

445
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: Goodwill you look for little fun muss all sorts of glass, yeah,

446
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: a little get creative. And then you go to candlemaker

447
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: dot com to buy sense. Okay, they have like a

448
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: billion cents, And are they like essentially like essential oils. Yeah,

449
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: they're like two little two ounce bottles cheap, like three

450
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: ninety nine a bottles. Shipping's expensive. I'm giving you more prices.

451
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: I want a price on everything. I'm adding these up

452
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 3: in my head.

453
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: So I get like I was like, oh, it's uh,

454
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: Autumn's comings. I'll get like Apple is trending, right, there's

455
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: a new apple drink at Starbucks. Like I didn't know

456
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: they had an apple drink. It's yeah, they tried to

457
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: make it bigger than the pumpkin spice, but pumpkin spot,

458
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just all took over.

459
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do at this point.

460
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: So I got apple spice, like some pumpkin spye, some

461
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: vanilla tobaccos, a nice scent if you mix it well

462
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: with something cranberry. And so you get all these bottles delivered,

463
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: You get the soy wax, and then you need to

464
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: get a metal pitcher, okay, to put in a pot

465
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: that's filled with water, boiling water, and you put the

466
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 2: wax in the picture like the little beads, right, and

467
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 2: then it melts down. And once it's all melted down,

468
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: you put I prefer to put a lot of the

469
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 2: scented oil in so that it's right.

470
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: You want to get a smell, yeah, otherwise it's just

471
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: going to be kind of a crayon.

472
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I mix and match. Sometimes I fail,

473
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: sometimes I win. I feel like this is a mixture

474
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: of nice smells lovely. And then you pour it in.

475
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: You you know, make the wick talk by putting like

476
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: I use chopsticks, okay, across the top of it, and

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: like tape the wick to it so it stands straight.

478
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: Up, otherwise it'll sink in.

479
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: Be weird. And then I pour in the wax and

480
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: then you but it sit for twelve hours or you

481
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: go to sleep, You wake up the next morning, cut

482
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: the chopstick off, and you get to go, wow.

483
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: Was it a difficult process to learn? It feels like

484
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: a pretty straightforward It's straightforward yeah.

485
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: I think the fun part is like, oh, you can

486
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: also get like dies for the wax. Right, has this

487
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: one died? It's kind of like I put in like

488
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: normal ambler and.

489
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: You Millheiser's Candles says on the label, this is beautiful.

490
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: How many candles have you made at this point?

491
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: I guess I've been doing it almost off and on

492
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: for a full year, so maybe like fifty.

493
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a decent amount, varying sizes. I mention,

494
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: what's the biggest one you've made?

495
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: I made up there was a bowl that looked like

496
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: a pumpkin, and so I put three wicks in there

497
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 2: and made it okay, right?

498
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 3: And did you do a pumpkin smell? Okay?

499
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 2: Lovely?

500
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: You know, like, there are obviously candles that you can

501
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: spend like hundreds of dollars on. There's such a range.

502
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I can tell any different. I

503
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: feel like I could get one off of the clearance

504
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: racket target and I would have as good of a

505
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: time as with one that costs one hundred and seventy dollars. Yes,

506
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: is that.

507
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: How you feel? Yes, that's how I feel.

508
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how you get to I feel like,

509
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: I'm just like, my taste level is so low that

510
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm satisfied by thank God, always the cheapest thing.

511
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: That's a good thing. Yeah.

512
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: I avoid spoiling myself otherwise and then it because I

513
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: feel like once you do, you can't go back. Yeah,

514
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: but I love every type of candle good. Do you

515
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: have a favorite type of smell?

516
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: I really like muskie, like tobacco, vanilla, yes, but it's

517
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: not the season for that right now. I feel like

518
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: this season it's like cinnamon spice and like all that

519
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: types of smell. So I think cinnamon spices and vanilla.

520
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: But other than this season, I like tobacco.

521
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: Smelly tobacco to me feels like fall. The only season

522
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: I can't really put my finger on for a candle

523
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: is summer.

524
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: Summer. What could that?

525
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: Maybe citrus or something lemon? Lemon? Right? And are you

526
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: giving these away as gifts? Are you making them all

527
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: for yourself?

528
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm gathering. I start the gift making process for the

529
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: holidays kind of early, getting ideas and I start crafting.

530
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: I have a lot of nieces and nephews, and I

531
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: feel like anything you give them, they're kind of like

532
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: thanks and they forget who gave it to them type

533
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: of thing. Grateful, right, totally ungrateful. And so I feel

534
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: like if I show putting some love into a gift,

535
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: being like I made this for you, they'll kind of

536
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: look at it differently or just feel a different appreciation

537
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: for it other than just like getting a video game

538
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: or something right.

539
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: Or if they forget about it, it'll just be even

540
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: more heartbreaking. So that like the emotions are even higher,

541
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: the stakes are through the roof.

542
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: Where those tight I sweatshirts I made you you all

543
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: last year. Oh that's very nice.

544
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 3: Are your nieces and nephews of the age where they

545
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: want a candle?

546
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: Well, I found a Yoda baby Yoda glassware, okay, and

547
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: so I love the liddle doing a baby Yoda of

548
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: everything at this point. Yeah, So I made my nephew

549
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: he's seventeen, Okay, So I made it for him. And

550
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: was it green? Yeah? I made it like green and

551
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: like pine and moss smell oil scent. So it was

552
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: kind of like funky little bit.

553
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: Moss is a good because I feel like Yoda when

554
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: I imagine Yoda is in a swamp or something. Wow,

555
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: you're really getting into the theming of this. Yeah, I

556
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: really appreciate that, but they're not really the age. They're

557
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: in college. Out of college. That feels like a good candle.

558
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: That's the beginning of candle using. Okay, I feel like

559
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: if they were high school and younger, they're at home,

560
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: their parents have candles. They want more of a what

561
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: does a teen want? They want they want a lava lamp.

562
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, they all want to Spencer's Yes, Spencer's

563
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: I wrote on his label. My nephew's label is like,

564
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: this would be good to cover up your farts, keep

565
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: your room smelling nice. Where's your family at New Jersey?

566
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: Mostly New Jersey? Yeah?

567
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: Can a candle be taken on as a carry on item?

568
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: I just brought a candle to someone. I went on

569
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 2: a trip and my bag was flagged and they had

570
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: to go through it and wipe down the candle to

571
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: make sure it wasn't like a bomb or anything like. Yeah,

572
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: because there's a wick. Yeah, there's a wick.

573
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: It's like a little fuse that could, I mean, be

574
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: a really obvious bomb.

575
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: So I guess you have to put in your check bags.

576
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: Okay, you never know what they're gonna flag you for.

577
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: What else are you crafting.

578
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: I made an ugly little jewelry box for my niece

579
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: for her birthday where I shellacked seashells I got at

580
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: the shore the summer, right, and then I painted it

581
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: and shellacked it some more. It was hideous.

582
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: But what else I thought that was charming. What was

583
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: her reaction to it?

584
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. She never thanked. Okay, usually I am

585
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: expecting thank you cards. But I make ice cream. That's

586
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: like my crafting.

587
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: But like, how do you have like an ice cream machine?

588
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: I feel like ice cream making is it seems very temperamental.

589
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: It feels like you could end up with a bad

590
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: product easily.

591
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: We got the Jennies Cookbook for ice cream, so that

592
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 2: taught me how to like use eggs and make curd

593
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: like Custer. Yes, I've made corn ice cream which is

594
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: really fun and tasty.

595
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: It didn't have pieces of corn in it, no.

596
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: But I milked the cob. Oh yeah, I milked that

597
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: cop You scrape, you take off all the corn kernels, right,

598
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: and then you slide a knife down the side of

599
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: it and all this juice comes out and hit that

600
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: into a bowl and then you put all the corn

601
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: in that juice into heavy cream. And cook get a

602
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: little like steeping it in it and then you drain all

603
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: the milk out and leave the corn behind.

604
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: What did I'm trying to imagine what that's tasty? Is

605
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: it like?

606
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: And then you dye it yellow?

607
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: Does it taste like a corn pops or like a

608
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: corn cereal?

609
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Like corn? You know, the corn cookie from milk Bar? Yes,

610
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: it's like that.

611
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Now I can get behind that because I'm not

612
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: a corn eater, but I feel like there's so many

613
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: corn products.

614
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: I love corn.

615
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm the one person on earth who

616
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: doesn't enjoy corn cream.

617
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Corn.

618
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, what a horrible way to serve any food.

619
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: It just spreads all over the plate.

620
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a corn ice cream I might be able

621
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: to get behind what other flavors if you made.

622
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I've made mint, chocolate chip coffee, I made a peanut

623
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: butter and Reese's peanut butter cup and chocolate ice cream. Recently,

624
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: it's fun to like if somebody, like I just made

625
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: an ice cream flavor for somebody just got to the

626
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: hospital for something, and so it's like, oh, make her

627
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: an ice cream, and it's fun just to like, you know,

628
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: you can draw a label on.

629
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: The carton, right, I mean it's adjacent to candle making

630
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways.

631
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's it's a cheap, nice, easy right yeah.

632
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: Right time fun to make and yeah with the Let

633
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: me ask you about the mint chocolate chip, because there's

634
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: I feel like within the last ten years, a lot

635
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: of ice cream places have begun making mint ice cream

636
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: that tastes like the herb mint? Is that what yours

637
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: was like?

638
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Or was?

639
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: Because I am not, we have to stop doing that.

640
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: It tastes like plants. Did you use just like a

641
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: mint extract?

642
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: I used a mint extract, but I also used mint leaves.

643
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: It did the recipe didn't call for mint leaves I wanted,

644
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: but I wanted to like steep the milk and mint

645
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: leaves because I had mint leaves. So I apologize. I

646
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: just wanted to be, you know, more professional with this

647
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: mint chocolate chip.

648
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: I just feel like I think I went over. Yeah,

649
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: I feel like that's just a bad trend that's got

650
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: to go away. I feel like no one actually it

651
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: feels as good in theory, but it's the sort of

652
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: thing where you kind of want it to be an

653
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: artificial candy flavor and I've just got to you know,

654
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: we've got to get the word out of that ass.

655
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: And I also like it the ment chocolate chip to

656
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: be green.

657
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: I don't Oh yeah, I don't want it to be

658
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: like white, kind of off white. Yeah, it's not fun.

659
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: It's not fun.

660
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Speaker 3: And I mean, how am I supposed to possibly know

661
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Speaker 3: that that's mint if it's not like a neon green?

662
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

663
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I have a lot of complaints about

664
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: current ice cream trends. I mean, like right now, like obviously, oh,

665
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: there's a squirrel running through the yard. Squirrel, Oh, good

666
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: for it, it's just out doing its thing. Are you

667
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: into the sort of thing like salt and straw putting

668
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: turkey in their ice cream?

669
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: I haven't dabbled that much in salt and straw.

670
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I have their cookbook, but I have all these

671
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: places are giving away their recipes. Okay, so you make

672
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: ice cream, you're making candles. You obviously love to give

673
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: things away. Do you like receiving things?

674
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: I would love to receive things made by people like right.

675
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: I always push my mom to give me, like, just

676
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: draw me something because I don't know. I buy myself

677
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: what I need. I don't need that I don't feel

678
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: like I don't need that much. We don't.

679
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, right.

680
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: Is your mom an artist? Yeah, she's an artist in

681
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: the sense that she can draw. It's not like she's

682
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: sure sure. So she enjoys trips to Michael's and Joe

683
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: Anne's and like getting like paints and acrylics and painting stuff.

684
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: As far as craft stores do. Between Michaels and Joe

685
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: Anne Where are you going?

686
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: I do find myself going to Michael's, but always finding

687
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: like I should just go to Joe Ann's because they

688
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: have both all the fabric I need, right and all

689
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: the crafting materials. Yeah, so I should be going to

690
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: Joeanne's more.

691
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like when I'm at joe Anne's, I

692
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: leave with what I need. When I go to Michael's,

693
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm frequently disoriented. The one I go to is in

694
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: the same parking lot is nine other giant retailers. So

695
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: it's just madness in Glendale. In glendaleyeh, World Market and

696
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: World Market. We've got a Nords from Iraq, Marshall, Staples,

697
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: Ross Staples. It's too many bits.

698
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: There's a store underneath, like underneath the parking lot. Yeah,

699
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: what is that under there it was a halloween store, Yes,

700
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: it was.

701
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: What is it the rest of there, It's just a

702
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: big empty cave down there.

703
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: That's kind of beeri.

704
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should. I need to explore that off season

705
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: because that's a large space to just be kind of

706
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: dark for nine months out of the year. I'm glad

707
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: we're going to the same Michaels. And then I assume

708
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: you're the Glendale Joanne. Yes, not a particularly well run store.

709
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: I would say, no, no, no, it's a little chaotic

710
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: in there. I do like the Michael's self checkout. Michaels

711
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: had a self check out.

712
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: Nobody does, so they're waiting in line. There's a huge line,

713
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: and then I just bypass everybody being like watch me,

714
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: and I go to the self checkout.

715
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: They go, oh yeah, Michael's usually has about half a

716
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: person checking people out, and then so you're there for

717
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: three times as long as you were shopping and they don't.

718
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: And it's also not like a grocery store where you

719
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: can look at tabloids or whatever while you're waiting. It's

720
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: like they have like.

721
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: Dollar craft things as you wait in line, I guess

722
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: I need this, or like.

723
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 3: Charleston choose or like a candy that no one wants

724
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: and stuff hes.

725
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just this.

726
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: They need to rethink that part of the store if

727
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: they're gonna trap me for there for that long because

728
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: it's a waiting room, not for me. Well, I think

729
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: we should play a game. Okay, hon Aly skift door curs. Okay, wonderful.

730
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you.

731
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Seven. Okay.

732
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating. So right now

733
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want with the microphone.

734
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: I'll be right back.

735
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: Hey, everyone follow me on Instagram. I have a pretty

736
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: fun Instagram. Ooh, bagett me nuts? Those are That's a

737
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: fun Instagram account. I take actors and comedians and put

738
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: them in a picture with a baguette. They used the

739
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: bagette as something that's not usually a baguette, like a

740
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: bagett could be a lamp, a bagette could be a

741
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: field hockey stick, fun things like that. It's called beget

742
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: me nuts, wonderful, beget me nots. Yeah you're doing that.

743
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: How long have you been doing that? Since? When I

744
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: first moved to La twenty twelve, my friend and I

745
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: bought a bagette from Gelson's and went on a hike

746
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: and then I posed with the baguette as a bat

747
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: like behind on my shoulders coos and he's like, oh,

748
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: that's funny. And we were shooting his sketch the next

749
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: day with like some comedians and we had them use

750
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: the baggette as something else, and then we just kept

751
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: asking more and more friends to take pictures with baggettes

752
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: using it as something yeapest.

753
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if does Italy have a bread that was

754
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: like an answer to the bag atte. I feel like

755
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 3: I just recently heard that there's like a Italy has

756
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: It's like facaccia or something. They were like, we need

757
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: a competitor to the baguette, or am I making this

758
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: up on a lease?

759
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean I found a word filone.

760
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: And that's a competitor to the bag atte.

761
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Says another tusk and bread on the list similar to

762
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: the famous French baguette and shape.

763
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, I thought it was an interesting thing to

764
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: need to compete with loaves of bread. You think that

765
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: it feels like bread has just been there always, But

766
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: to like for a country to catch wind of like

767
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: a different bread that they have to keep up with.

768
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: That's a baffling. Who cares. We're gonna play gift to

769
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: a curse. This is how we play. I'm going to

770
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're a

771
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell

772
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: you if you're right or wrong. Okay, there are correct

773
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: answers you can lose.

774
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

775
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 3: Number one this is from a listener named Jake. Gift

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00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: or a curse.

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00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Low light photos a gift. Why it's nice to everyone?

778
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: You know, there's no like harsh light or it smooths

779
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: everybody's faces imperfections out a little bit. It's romantic looking,

780
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: it's candid, it's not so set up. It's natural. It's

781
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: old school a little bit.

782
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: Yes, of course it's a gift. A bad lighting photo,

783
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: now that's a problem, bad lighting or too much lighting.

784
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: But low light, I feel like it's perfectly fine.

785
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 2: And the technology has adapted to it and it can

786
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: take a fine picture.

787
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: You can pick well that when the technology like is

788
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: trying to brighten up a dark situation, I feel like

789
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: that with people it starts to look a little wild

790
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: because it overcorrects or whatever. And you do the little

791
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 3: like cross thing on your phone that I'm so bad

792
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: at or tries to keep it in place. Are you

793
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: familiar with this that I'm not into? But I don't

794
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: mind a low light photo. I like a blurry, you know,

795
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: messy photo as long as it's not backlit. It's a gift. Okay, good,

796
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: very good job so far. Number two this is from

797
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: someone named Todd. Todd suggested gift or a curse. The

798
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: New York Times Mini Crossword.

799
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with this? I am, but I have

800
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: never filled it out? Filled it out. It's a gift

801
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: to those who are too intimidated by the big Crossford puzzle.

802
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: Do you fill out the big one? No? Is filling

803
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: out the correct usage? Yeah?

804
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: I feel like it is, but it feels so formal

805
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: it makes.

806
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: Me be so I have to keep filling this out.

807
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: It seems like something you do with the DMV or

808
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: something thing. Very good gift. I love the little Mini Crossword.

809
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: I mean it's four people who are, such as myself,

810
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: were fairly stupid.

811
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: It's very easy.

812
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: You get it done in seconds, and you can tell

813
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: people you did the New York Times Crossword. Yeah, you

814
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: don't have to have mentioned that it was only it

815
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: took you forty seconds. It's very simple. It's probably mostly

816
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: it's like a child level difficulty. But it's a nice

817
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: little thing I do in the morning that makes me

818
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: feel at least like my cognitive functions are not completely collapsing.

819
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: So it's a gift. I don't think I've.

820
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: Ever filled out the big one.

821
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: Maybe'll I have, but none of the answers are right,

822
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: completely wrong answers. That would be a feat to be

823
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: able to fill in it, fill it in completely. I

824
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: didn't even look at the clues. I just put in words.

825
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 3: That feels like to be able to do a reverse

826
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: crossword where you have to guess the clues. You just

827
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: have a full crossword and then you write down that

828
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 3: feels like a failing business idea. Okay, you've got two

829
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: out of two so far. Number three. This is from Kara.

830
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: Kara Klank actually Kara, We love Kara. She suggested gift

831
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: or a curse writing social media posts in your child's voice.

832
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: EG.

833
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm turning one today. I love Cake.

834
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: I think that's a gift. I my children. I have

835
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: a dog and a half and I share cussody with

836
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: the dog. Oh sure sure, And I am always giving

837
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: them voices and yeah, and they talk a lot in

838
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: those voices. So yeah, I think parents with real kids

839
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: would do the same thing.

840
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: What sort of thing are you writing for the dogs?

841
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: To say? You had to tell the truth? How is truth?

842
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: That's my dog, Charlie. Yes, Charlie, it's a gift.

843
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: It's a gift we love to hear from. And you've

844
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: now won the game. It's a rare I feel like

845
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: there are very few people who have won the game. Look,

846
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: I love when the parents are taking their turning the

847
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: social media into a creative writing exercise. They're speaking for

848
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: someone else. We're all kind of watching it unfold and

849
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: we're uncomfortable with it. We don't know exactly what to do.

850
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: But you can't blame them.

851
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: They don't know.

852
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: So, you know, a lot of people just they're out

853
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: there doing their thing on social media. And if they

854
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: decide to write in the child's voice, who am I

855
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: to say? I don't have a child, what would I write? Well,

856
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: I would I definitely wouldn't write in my child's voice.

857
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: But we love to see it anyway. I mean, we

858
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: have to wonder what Kara, where Carol lies, I mean,

859
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: where her opinion lies on this. My guess is something different.

860
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: No one care. I would assume she's got a different

861
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: opinion on that. But you got three out of three,

862
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: very nicely played. You get nothing, but you do get

863
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: to feel nice about yourself. Okay, this is the final

864
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No emails.

865
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: People write into I Said no gifts at gmail dot

866
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: com with all kinds of questions. We're really encouraging the

867
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: listener and listener I hope you're listening. You don't have

868
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 3: to write in about gift suggestions right in, whatever you want,

869
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: any type of question. You know, I'm getting tired of

870
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: giving gift advice, but do whatever you want right in.

871
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: They've got problems, we help them solve their problems. That

872
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: sort of thing will help me answer a listener question. Okay,

873
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: let me get into the dock here. Let's see um. Okay,

874
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: this says dear Bridger and funny. Guess that's very nice.

875
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: You're getting all kinds.

876
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: Of compliments towards Hello. This is every Christmas and Birthday.

877
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: I rack my brain for a gift for my brother

878
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: and could really use your help. And by the way,

879
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: I now feel bad that I say I don't want

880
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: to give gift suggestions and this person is now asking

881
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: for that sort of advice. Not my problem, okay, so

882
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: could really use your help. He has everything. My brother

883
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: is the type of person who buys himself whatever he

884
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: wants and more. He also has very fancy taste, so

885
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: some things that he likes, for instance, tech items are

886
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: home decor are out of my budget. I've gotten him

887
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: countless bottles of liquor and every Chicago sports memorabilia I

888
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: can think of over the years. He lives in South

889
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: Carolina with his wife and labradoodle, loves to travel, and

890
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 3: plays golf. I'm getting an interesting picture of this brother.

891
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: What do you get the person who has everything? Sincerely, Sam?

892
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: All Right, So her brother's kind of hard right Republican

893
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: living in South Carolina with his labradoodle and wife and

894
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: they're on the golf course. He's got everything.

895
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Everyone has everything.

896
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: It's true adult. I mean as an adult, you basically

897
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: have the You get the things you.

898
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Want, something you order it, it comes next day. It's yeah,

899
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: there's no growing up. You would get somebody like a

900
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: VHS of a movie or something, or like a CD.

901
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: There's lots of gift options now there's just like cards,

902
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: gift cards which are boring. So like I mean crafting,

903
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Like I have a brother who's you know, married with kids,

904
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: army lawyer. I always craft something on Zazzle dot com.

905
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: Is this like, I guess that's not me crafting, but

906
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: Zazzle dot com. Like you can put a picture on

907
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: like a mug or a or like it. My brother

908
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: growing up, he he took care of my dog when

909
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: my mom and I went to Disney World. I came back,

910
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: the dog ran away. It was his fault. He got

911
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: a dog, Golden Retriever. He couldn't take care of it.

912
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: He gave it to my parents. They ended up raising it.

913
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: He got a basset hound. He couldn't take care of it.

914
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: He gave it to my parents, they raised it.

915
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: He this this person was filling shelters.

916
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got another dog. He returned it to the shelter.

917
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: I think got another dog, returned to the shelter. So

918
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: one Christmas I made him. I got I made coasters

919
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: with all those dogs that he failed to take care

920
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: of on each coaster, with a no smoking cigarette circle

921
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: over each dog. He's like these are They laughed. It

922
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: was very funny because yeah, and so now his girls

923
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: when they get a new dog. They're like, I don't

924
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: want this one to be a coaster.

925
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: What is driving him to continue getting dogs?

926
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: It's clearly he has a huge dog. He's great, My

927
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: brother's great. He has a mastiff now, which I'm like,

928
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: oh my goodness. But he loves dogs. Our family loves dogs.

929
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: So like he heaps trying.

930
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: This's this addiction that he can't quite handle. That's a

931
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: nice So you go to Zazzle, you do that, that's

932
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: a nice thing. Or there I'm putting on my jacket

933
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: right now. I don't want to freak you out. I'm

934
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: getting a little chew.

935
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: We also growing up to photo booth pictures on the

936
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Jersey Boardwalk like every summer. So I gathered all those

937
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: together and organize them in order so you see us age.

938
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: And then I had that printed on aluminum on Zazzle

939
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: dot com and that was a cool gift.

940
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: It feels like you're like, creating gifts for you is

941
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: truly taking up months of your life.

942
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: Yes, it's an ongoing process. I start like, I'm like, yeah,

943
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: think ahead.

944
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say right now, I'm trying to

945
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: create a T shirt for my boyfriend, and it's taking

946
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: a lot of time, and I'm using one of these services,

947
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: and I hope that I do because now I'm saying

948
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: it on the podcast. What if I don't give it

949
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: to him and then he's going to be furious. But

950
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: maybe it'll be nice. It'll be a little something of

951
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: what could have been. Yeah, it does a if you're

952
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: not a graphic designer, or if you're just kind of

953
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: stumbling through photoshop, it takes a minute and you want

954
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: it to look nice. You don't want to give him garbage.

955
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: So but I mean, Sam here could easily do this.

956
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: I think you can find a picture of them when

957
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: they were younger or something. Put it on a.

958
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: Mug, or how about a clip art of like a

959
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 3: golf ball.

960
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 2: I put your picture on a golf ball.

961
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: You know, you get on these sites they have all

962
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: of the clip art. Just put some of the different

963
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: clip art on a shirt. Maybe the words labradoodle or

964
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: the word labradoodle and he loves to travel. You could

965
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: put a globe on there. So it's kind of a

966
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of everything for the brother.

967
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: And you put that on the front and back of

968
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 3: a sweatshirt. And that's a thoughtful, confusing gift. That he's

969
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: certainly not going to get himself. No one else will

970
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: get it for him. And I mean the countless bottles

971
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 3: of liquor she's talking about he or she or they.

972
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: It feels like you could easily just keep getting this

973
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: person liquor.

974
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that goes away, you know what.

975
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: I think the actual problem here is that Sam doesn't

976
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 3: even care about her brother.

977
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: I think she's trying to care about her brother. She

978
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: wants to get something that's gonna last, and he's gonna

979
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 2: look at and think of her.

980
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a huge disconnect. There's I mean,

981
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: there's so few details about the brother. They're all kind

982
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 3: of things like that anyone could point out. I feel

983
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: like Sam has just got to disconnect.

984
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: Cut off the relationship, cut off the relationship, one less worry,

985
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: one less worry.

986
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: Who knows where Sam lives? Obviously not in South Carolina.

987
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: I don't know where. The Chicago element of this, I

988
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: mean that throws me off in another enormous way. So

989
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: Sam could be in another country for all we know,

990
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: stressing about the brother. The brother doesn't care about the gifts.

991
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: I think that this is kind of the This is

992
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: the year that Sam just says, closes the door and says,

993
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 3: I'm not getting gifts anymore.

994
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: It's over. It's over.

995
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: That is actually, and I will say with siblings, when

996
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: you both agree not to get each other a gift,

997
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: incredible feeling. My sister and I have started doing that.

998
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: I mean, we're both so happy with it to just

999
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: be It's like one less thing you have to think

1000
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 3: about during the holidays.

1001
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: Do you get something small like a tote bag? We

1002
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: get each other nothing. I'm getting her daughter's thinks.

1003
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's kind of the where my

1004
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: gift giving energy is? I mean, where is her gift

1005
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: giving energy gone for me? That's another question. She's not

1006
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: buying my dog anything, So I mean, I am putting

1007
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: in a lot more work, but at least I don't

1008
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: have to think about one other thing. And so I

1009
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: guess all of my siblings are not giving each other anything.

1010
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know what that says about our family

1011
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: or the dynamics we've got going, but uh, you know,

1012
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: if you can, if it's a good thing, if you're

1013
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: like both happy not to be giving a gift, it's

1014
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: a nice feeling. So maybe Sam could figure that out

1015
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: with a brother. Sam has options, Candles ice cream. The

1016
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: T shirt that I described endless options. I think I know,

1017
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: go ahead.

1018
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: Another thing I made that it would be a fun

1019
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: gift is switch out the Guess Who characters with family members.

1020
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: Wow, that's an incredible idea.

1021
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: So that'd be fun for Sam to play with their

1022
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: brother or like if you get they don't see each

1023
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: other a lot, like you can get like family members

1024
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: and switch out.

1025
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: That feels like something. I mean, Milton Bradley or whatever

1026
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: company makes Guess Who should have a weed site.

1027
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: They should. Oh that's such just myart idea.

1028
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: Where you upload all of your friends or family and

1029
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: then they send you a custom version of it.

1030
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1031
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 3: I mean it would probably cost a fortune, but I

1032
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: feel like everyone would want that and you could fill

1033
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: it with whoever you want, Yeah, copyrighted photos, whatever you want, Yeah, exactly,

1034
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: put all sorts of celebrities.

1035
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

1036
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: I feel like that's an excellent option. Or you can

1037
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: just print them off on your computer and tape them

1038
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: over the regular game.

1039
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: How does Guess Who work your? Do you have a

1040
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: little person have a hat on? Now? And then you

1041
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: flip down all the people?

1042
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh right, you flip there's the flipping, so you would

1043
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: have to tape them on or whatever. Yeah, Milton Bradley,

1044
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: is that the Is there another competing game company? I

1045
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: don't know that there is, did you say, Milton Bradley.

1046
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the.

1047
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: Feel like there's one Parker Brothers. Parker Brothers. Those are

1048
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 3: the two, and then there are kind of none others

1049
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: except for the you know once.

1050
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: In a while. No, that's Barbie.

1051
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Barbie. I don't know that they're as much

1052
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: into the board games. I don't know who's making the

1053
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: Ouiji board that you can buy at the grocery store,

1054
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 3: but that's always an interesting one. That's such a funny

1055
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: thing to see on the aisles among like next to

1056
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: snakes and ladders or shoots and ladders or whatever. Then

1057
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: there's just a thing to contact the devil. But Sam

1058
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: has gotten so I mean, more than enough advice. Hopefully

1059
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: they can take that information away and just do whatever.

1060
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's there's only so much I can do,

1061
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: and you put in so much work. It's hopefully Sam

1062
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: can appreciate that.

1063
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: Well.

1064
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: I have my nice little candle here. I have rooms

1065
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: in my home that need candles.

1066
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: This says specifically nook. Oh yeah, that's right, So it

1067
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: only works in the nook.

1068
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: I'll put it in my breakfast nook good and just

1069
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 3: have light that every morning while I'm reading and eating breakfast,

1070
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 3: and I'll think of you, and it'll confuse my senses

1071
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: while I'm tasting something else and drinking coffee. It. I'll

1072
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: also get the what is it again? Apples, cinnem and spice,

1073
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 3: white birch, country cranberry.

1074
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: So that was me pouring in all these bottles of sense,

1075
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: hopefully just kind of your leftovers. You're just like, I've

1076
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: got to get rid of some of this. I really

1077
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: appreciate a nice little candle. I feel like, and you

1078
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: did say gift cards are boring, but I feel like

1079
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: candles and gift cards are much maligned gifts that I

1080
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: think are I welcome. I will take either good okay,

1081
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, custom candles a little more thoughtful. I'll

1082
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: take carlic jar.

1083
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: I'll take when you found it home goods like you know,

1084
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 3: lying on the floor. I don't care candles a candle

1085
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: and everyone can use a candle.

1086
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: Can I give also advice if anybody wants to save jars,

1087
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: you boil some water and white vinegar with a little

1088
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: dish soap, right, drop the jars in, leaving them in there,

1089
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: turn the water off, leave them in there for twenty minutes.

1090
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: The labels just fall off. Oh, all the glue comes

1091
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: off to.

1092
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: That feels like a criminal thought of that for another thing,

1093
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: and then that's kind of transferred to the craft world.

1094
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: It's like like how you like get stamps off of

1095
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: an envelope or something to commit mail fraud or something

1096
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: like that. I feel like that is that has various origins,

1097
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 3: but uh, that's a good idea. I feel like there's

1098
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 3: so many things with that adhesive all over them. Yeah,

1099
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 3: white vinegar.

1100
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: White vinegars, dissoap and boiling water, and your house will

1101
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: smell nice and clean. Yeah yeah, you're no, that's the

1102
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: bad heart.

1103
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: I don't mind that smell. I feel like it smells

1104
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 3: like mopping the floor.

1105
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: I must be getting bad vinegar.

1106
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea for a candle. White vinegar

1107
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 3: candle the fuck.

1108
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

1109
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: Well, I've had such a wonderful time with you here today.

1110
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you were able to make it through

1111
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: the criminal justice system. You were able to actually aid

1112
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: a criminal, put some money in from their's pocket. Yeah,

1113
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: he's probably taking advantage of more brothers right now. Hopefully

1114
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: I'll be able to do the same one day. But

1115
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: thank you for being here, Thank you for having me listener.

1116
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: The podcast is over. You know it's time to do

1117
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: something else. I don't know what it'll be. I hope

1118
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: it's nice. I hope you have a nice time. And oh,

1119
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: I guess it is the holidays, so I hope you're

1120
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: having a happy, ish, niceish holiday season. The podcast is over.

1121
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an

1122
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson,

1123
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't

1124
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 3: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,

1125
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man.

1126
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram at I said

1127
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: No Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

1128
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

1129
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

1130
00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: of the gifts.

1131
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1132
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: But you're a.

1133
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty,

1134
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: And I said no, guess you're presences presents enough. I

1135
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how do you dare

1136
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: to surbey me?