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Speaker 1: So live on a first Friday Miraicle edition of Clean

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Speaker 1: Lebronze Daily. I am merely bo he is the great z.

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Speaker 1: How are you living?

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Speaker 2: Buddy?

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Speaker 3: Hello? Nice? Good to see it falls here. It's crisp

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Speaker 3: in the air. Yes, yes, six Wednesday now, so we're

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Speaker 3: allowed to start to build our optimism and enjoy. What

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Speaker 3: do you got? Give me? Hello?

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Speaker 2: Gimme?

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Speaker 4: He clicked on, we heard you click on? How are

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Speaker 4: you fine? I was letting him go. He was starting

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Speaker 4: to finally wake up.

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Speaker 3: I thought you had. I thought you already wake up. Start.

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Speaker 3: We just started violence right out of the gate. Out

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Speaker 3: of the gate, the gates. We've got crazy. It's funny

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Speaker 3: when people don't push.

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Speaker 4: The buttons today and now he's going to get it

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Speaker 4: all day.

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Speaker 3: What happened? Have you been? It's something an airing of

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Speaker 3: the grievance normally I don't care.

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Speaker 4: There was a question about some of the things that

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Speaker 4: have been booked on the show today, and now I'm

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Speaker 4: just like, you know.

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Speaker 1: What if you want to dance with the but let's

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Speaker 1: go gosh.

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Speaker 3: I did not see this coming up. He was trying

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Speaker 3: to remove he wants to be smirch ben baby. I

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Speaker 3: didn't smirch ben That is comfactually incorrect. G Man, get

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Speaker 3: Young Gabriel over here. Boy, you realize Young Gabriel help

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Speaker 3: with a clip that we needed. Yeah, Young Gabriel. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's right there.

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Speaker 2: Look at him.

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Speaker 3: He's ready to go. Young Gabriel. Hello, Young Gabriel. He was.

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Speaker 3: He just characterized what had happened earlier that apparently got

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Speaker 3: him very unhappy as me besmirching Ben Baby. Did I

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Speaker 3: have a smirch Ben Baby?

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Speaker 5: You didn't besmirch him?

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Speaker 3: No, duh, I know that.

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Speaker 6: There was no attack on Ben Baby. We love Ben

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Speaker 6: Baby a lot more than most people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Baby's great. Why don't do most people not?

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. On my Bengo card for

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Speaker 1: the first thing we'd be talking about Ben Baby was not.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to be on yeah before thirty, and

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Speaker 1: he's great. But I didn't have that on my Bengo card,

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Speaker 1: the first one.

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, we love more than we love him most

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Speaker 6: other people. Oh, I got, that's that's my character.

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Speaker 3: We've had a glacious allegation that lobbied at me. I

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Speaker 3: want to come up more than I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: make up. As we go to well at least he admitted,

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Speaker 3: at least that you made it up.

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Speaker 2: I put his bike.

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Speaker 3: What have I done?

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Speaker 2: Unbelie?

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Speaker 3: So we have and we'll play the full. Look at him,

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Speaker 3: So he's checking out screens over there, he's coming. Look

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Speaker 3: at this, a little bit of this. Look at the

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Speaker 3: shortest hand. The shride. That's what he's got, his teeth.

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Speaker 3: That's what you need. Too much, too much, David, Hey, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I really need to talk. Sorry. Sorry, we're trying to

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Speaker 3: actually do business. Something's like, wait, the show started, You're

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Speaker 3: gonna make my walk. I gotta follow me over here

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Speaker 3: the other hiding. Here's my rose petals for me to

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Speaker 3: walk on. Damn it, my son works. That would be

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Speaker 3: the best part.

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Speaker 1: If that's what it could be, Well, we'll get that's

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Speaker 1: that will happened at some point. Corporate bo is going

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Speaker 1: to make sure that happens at some point that we

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Speaker 1: have someone throwing rose pedals for him to walk on

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Speaker 1: as he walks around to see swag.

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Speaker 3: It is Pittsburgh week. It is here.

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Speaker 1: The team practicing started about five minutes ago on a

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Speaker 1: crisp autumn day here in northeast Ohio. The Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: have signed quarterback Dom Jones to the active roster for

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. In addition, the team has signed cornerback

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Speaker 1: d Williams to the practice squad and place cornerback a

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Speaker 1: Mere Speed on practice squad injured list. So there you

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Speaker 1: have it there. The headline here today was the first

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Speaker 1: time that we've heard from Kevin on what happened yesterday

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Speaker 1: with the trade to Joe Flacco, and we'll have those

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Speaker 1: that full conversation with the media and Kevin coming up

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Speaker 1: here shortly after you heard it. Yep, what did your

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Speaker 1: Did your opinion change at all in terms of how

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Speaker 1: it came about, why it came about, and why the

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Speaker 3: No, it didn't. The bank looked at their situation, they said,

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Speaker 3: this is untenable. Who could we maybe go get? Hey,

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Speaker 3: the Browns, you know, put Dylan Gabriel in, so they're

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Speaker 3: going in that direction. Let's call them Brown's. Oh really, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what happened. It wasn't Joe flat couldn't say trade me.

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Speaker 3: The Browns were not expecting. I think people are making

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Speaker 3: reading way too much into you know, the surprise coming.

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Speaker 3: Their Browns were just surprised that the Bengals called them

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Speaker 3: It's not like they were saying, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 3: trade Joe Flacco. Now somebody called them. They didn't put

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Speaker 3: anything out there. Bengals call and said, hey, we want

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: That bit of audio is being wildly misconstrued. It is

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Speaker 1: not locally and also around the country, it's being widely misconstrued.

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Speaker 1: We have isolated just the one thing that's getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention. So let's let's go ahead and play.

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Speaker 7: It decided if Shador is going to be your number

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Speaker 7: two active quarterback for this weekend.

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Speaker 8: Yet, well, first I'd tell you is that Joe trade

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Speaker 8: took us by surprise.

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Speaker 9: That was not something that we saw coming.

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Speaker 2: You know they and.

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Speaker 8: You know that's uh. It was happened very fast and

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Speaker 8: happened not too long ago. So still working through all

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Speaker 8: roster type of things. I just I always have to

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Speaker 8: be mindful of our players and our players' development, and

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Speaker 8: you know, I want to make sure that I'm always

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Speaker 8: doing what's best for our players and of course our team.

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Speaker 8: But you know, with young players, I'm always thinking about

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Speaker 8: last week making the change to Dylan. You have to

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Speaker 8: think long and hard about that because these are these

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Speaker 8: are young players that you're so invested in their development.

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Speaker 8: So I'll let the week play out make a decision

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Speaker 8: later on that.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I've heard a great many people incredible

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Speaker 3: first question for this prescottference. It was, but it's also

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Speaker 3: absolutely yeah, incredible.

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Speaker 1: But I think, and I've seen this nationally, I've seen

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Speaker 1: this locally. It's being misconstrued as if Kevin is surprised

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Speaker 1: by the deal that was made by Andrew Berry, Like

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Speaker 1: that's the way that this is being presented. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that's the case at all. I think what he's

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Speaker 1: saying when he says the collect like us surprised, the

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Speaker 1: collective us. Every football decision in this building is made

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Speaker 1: by Andrew Berry, Kevin Stefanski, Paul de Podesta ownership. That's

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Speaker 1: the way those things are done with football handling it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there's in the time that Andrew

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Speaker 1: single major decision that's been made without both of them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how works, That's how it works here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's being presented though, like Andrew is under

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Speaker 1: has undermined Kevin with the with the trade.

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Speaker 3: You misread this. Yeah, no, they're surprised us. When they

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Speaker 3: went to bed Monday night, they were not thinking about

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Speaker 3: trading Joe Flacco and then they get a call from

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Speaker 3: the Bengals who say, actually we want Joe Flacco. Oh

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Speaker 3: you do? Yes, Well here's what it's going to be. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: and now we make the trade. Yeah, Kevin would absolutely

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Speaker 3: be involved in it. All football decisions are made by

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Speaker 3: Andrew Berry and Kevin and I would amagine depot, I

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Speaker 3: mean owner. Yes, they get told what's going to happen,

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Speaker 3: or if there's a situation where they have to lay

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Speaker 3: with this? But no, they make That's how they make

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Speaker 3: the decisions. It's not like a b was like, hey dude,

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Speaker 3: I just traded Joe Flacker and Kevin's like what wait what?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 1: No, not how it works. It's never worked that way here.

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Speaker 1: And that's not what he was saying.

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Speaker 3: We got made up allegation Jones back here, and now

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Speaker 3: we got other made up allegations all around town.

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Speaker 1: Made up narrative Jones is around town. They're everywhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just a misread. And I can I'll give everybody

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Speaker 1: you know, I can understand it. How you Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: hear things in a certain way, and then you read it,

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Speaker 1: you hear it back and it's in another way. Sure,

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Speaker 1: maybe because of how familiar I am and you are

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Speaker 1: with how the process works around here. Sure I didn't

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Speaker 1: hear it the other way. I heard it the way

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Speaker 1: I heard it. Well, the collective us, we as a team,

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Speaker 1: were surprised. Christ That's how I went to bed.

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Speaker 3: We'd train Joe flacka was even on our mind, and

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Speaker 3: then the Bengals said, we'd like put this on your mind,

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Speaker 3: and we said.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, what do you think, as you've had twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours to kind of sit on this? From Dylan's perspective,

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Speaker 1: how does this change the job for him?

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Speaker 3: If at all? It doesn't. I think when you make

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Speaker 3: his transha has begun. And I think for him it's

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Speaker 3: the same as it always was, Like you don't want

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Speaker 3: anybody else to have to play, and you do that

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Speaker 3: with your play. I don't think it's changed at all. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I think it's you know, we're going to have to

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Speaker 3: address head on things. I mean the fact that the

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Speaker 3: first question in the press conference wasn't even about Joe

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Speaker 3: that was is Shador the backup and actually say here's

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Speaker 3: what happened with the trade. Yeah, So there's still there's

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Speaker 3: fallout there because whether or not Door is the backup

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Speaker 3: massive social media ramifications and talking head media ramifications. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I have. And I mean there are national shows.

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Speaker 3: It's not just here. Mary Kay asked about Chador. It's

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Speaker 3: what does this trade mean for Shador? I mean, the

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Speaker 3: guy is, he's ratings, he's clicks, he's all of those things.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the one part of it is

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Speaker 3: that if he is the backup, I think it has

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Speaker 3: the potential to make an unfairly to Dylan, because I

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Speaker 3: don't think he deserves this, but I think it has

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Speaker 3: the potential to make our home crowd, or any crowd

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Speaker 3: even potentially no matter where we are, somewhat hostile to

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Speaker 3: him should he perform less than brilliantly.

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Speaker 1: Which is what I mentioned yesterday that he is. He's

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Speaker 1: been put in some really tough spots. Yeah, from the

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Speaker 1: get go, from the get go as a third round quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and the attent obviously that draft weekend is everybody around

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Speaker 1: here has said was to get one quarterback. They got

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Speaker 1: him in the third round, didn't envision drafting another one.

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Speaker 1: And then Shadour fell, and we've been over the reasons

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Speaker 1: for that. It's been well documented. He fell, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got a chance to get talent

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Speaker 1: that tape wise looks like first round tape. You got

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Speaker 1: a chance to get him, and so you do. You

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Speaker 1: take that lottery ticket. But from the Dylan part of

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Speaker 1: that is really tricky because it's already hard enough to

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Speaker 1: be a rookie quarterback in the league. But this was

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Speaker 8: All Right, great challenge road and you know division opponent

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Speaker 8: But with that, I'll take any questions.

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Speaker 7: Excited if Shador is going to be your number two

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Speaker 8: of things I do. I always have to be mindful

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Speaker 8: of our players and our players development, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I want to make sure that I'm always doing what's

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Speaker 8: best for our players and of course our team. But

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Speaker 8: you know, with young players, I'm always thinking about last

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Speaker 8: week making the change with to Dylan. You have to

439
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Speaker 8: think long and hard about that because these are these

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Speaker 8: are young players that you're so invested in their development,

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Speaker 8: So I'll let the week play out, make a decision

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Speaker 8: later on that it's late Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: You didn't plan on trade and Joe Blackham, No, why

444
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Speaker 2: did it happen? Though? What why didn't.

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Speaker 3: You trade them?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, obviously I'll ab makes those decisions. I

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Speaker 8: trust a b We talk about every decision we make.

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Speaker 8: They wanted to, they wanted Joe, they made the phone call.

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Speaker 8: Obviously it gives Joe an opportunity to go play again.

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Speaker 8: But you know, I trust in our decisions. Explain to

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Speaker 8: the fans all the training camp reps devoted the flack

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Speaker 8: and we pick it.

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Speaker 2: Why was it a waste of time? As it turns

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Speaker 2: out it's October? Neither a here.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean there's a lot of unknowns in football

456
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Speaker 8: and sports. You can't always predict injuries, you can't predict trades,

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Speaker 8: those type of things.

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Speaker 9: So it's just that sports. Joe, do you feel like

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Speaker 9: there's a leadership void in that young room? Do you

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Speaker 9: have a quarterback?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a young room, but you know, I believe

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Speaker 8: in those guys that they're all working very hard. Obviously,

463
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Speaker 8: Bailey's the elder statesman right now. But with Deshaun's in there,

464
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Speaker 8: you know, can provide great insight to the young guys.

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Speaker 8: And you know I trust in coach Muskrave, coach Reese,

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Speaker 8: those type of things making that deal. What's the concern

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Speaker 8: level that you traded Joe to a division rival that

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Speaker 8: need starting quarterback. Yeah, I think we talked through all

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Speaker 8: those things. I would let Andrews speak to that.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to speak for him, but I trust

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Speaker 9: in his decisions.

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Speaker 2: We're disappointing with the way I did for Flaco.

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Speaker 8: You know, Joe and I had a lot of conversations.

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Speaker 8: I'll keep those private. Obviously. He's somebody that we in

476
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Speaker 8: this building think very highly of. I think highly of

477
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Speaker 8: the person, think highly of the player. Disappointed in where

478
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Speaker 8: we are, you know as as a team, of course,

479
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Speaker 8: but you know, hopeful for him. But really our focus

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Speaker 8: turns into what's in front of us, which is you know,

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Speaker 8: Steeler week.

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Speaker 9: Or two have never won a game.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this could be a case of ignorance?

484
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Speaker 10: Is bliss?

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Speaker 2: They know they're not knowing their history, this team.

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Speaker 8: Living thanks Tony. Honestly, it's the game of football. It's

487
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Speaker 8: the past doesn't really matter, you know, what's in front

488
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Speaker 8: of you matters everyone. When we ask you about having

489
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Speaker 8: so many rookies, but what are the challenges whether it's

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Speaker 8: during the week or game day from having so many

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Speaker 8: young guys? Day you counting, Yeah, the thing I would

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Speaker 8: tell you, Scott is we're counting on a lot of

493
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Speaker 8: young guys. A lot of young guys are playing, but

494
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Speaker 8: they're not playing like rookies. These guys are very mature.

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Speaker 8: They work very hard. So I know what it might

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Speaker 8: say on the roster in terms of experience for them,

497
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Speaker 8: but we trust them. They've put in the work and

498
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Speaker 8: a lot of these guys are playing good football, but

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Speaker 8: they're going to continue to get better. I expect all

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Speaker 8: these guys to continue to get better.

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Speaker 10: When you're looking at the back and the number two,

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Speaker 10: how do you balance short term versus long term in

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Speaker 10: terms of what you're looking for when you you know,

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Speaker 10: whether it's you know, putting Sure there or you know,

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Speaker 10: bring Bailey up or whatever.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's really important to stay in the

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Speaker 8: short term when you're making these type of decisions or

508
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Speaker 8: any decision for your team. You know what's most important

509
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Speaker 8: is this week. Obviously, we have long term development plans

510
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Speaker 8: for all of our players at every position, but really

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Speaker 8: this week is what's most important.

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Speaker 3: It's got a bad obviously, it's got a great job

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Speaker 3: on the what you see from him, and you know, like,

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Speaker 3: at what point did you.

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Speaker 5: Feel comfortable really be able to league and give him off.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think again going back to the previous point,

517
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Speaker 8: these young players will just get better and better. And

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Speaker 8: I think he was a great example of a guy

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Speaker 8: that you know, we've tried just to not put too

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Speaker 8: much on his plate in that first game or the

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Speaker 8: second game, would slowly bring him along and I think

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Speaker 8: every step of the way he's answered the bell. He's

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Speaker 8: got a great demeanor on the field, He's got a

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Speaker 8: great demeanor around this building in terms of his intensity

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Speaker 8: to this football team. And you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 8: that again we're counting on. He's a big piece of

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Speaker 8: our system.

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Speaker 2: We're in the division a long time with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of his game right now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, outstanding football player.

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Speaker 8: Might be the best thrower of the football I've ever seen,

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Speaker 8: just from the arm, talent, the skill that he has.

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Speaker 8: Have a ton of respect for what he's done in

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Speaker 8: his career. Playing at a high level right now, extremely accurate.

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Speaker 8: That's a good feel for what they're doing. Allows his receivers,

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Speaker 8: tight ends, running backs get good yards after the catch.

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Speaker 9: He's playing at a very high level.

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers are three to one on the season. They

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Speaker 1: are a top the AFC North. Their head coach is

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. He is in his nineteenth year in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's the longest

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Speaker 1: tenured coach in the NFL. His record is a robust

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Speaker 1: one to eighty six, one oh eight and two. The

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Speaker 1: series record Pittsburgh leads eighty two, sixty four and one.

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Speaker 1: Last time out, Pittsburgh won twenty seven to fourteen in

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in December of last year. Last time they played.

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Speaker 1: They played the same team we played. The last time

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Speaker 1: we played, Theirs was a win in against the Vikings

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty one. They are coming off the buy.

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Speaker 1: Their offense is ranked twenty ninth overall, thirty first in rushing,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh in passing. Their defense is twenty eighth overall,

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Speaker 1: nineteenth and rushing thirtieth in passing. Their turnover differential and

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Speaker 1: here's where you're saying, well, bo, how are they three

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Speaker 1: and one? Here's how they are plus minus seven, which

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Speaker 1: is second best in the NFL. They are three in

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Speaker 1: one despite statistically not being a marvel at all. For

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Speaker 1: more on the Pittsburgh Steelers, we turn it over to

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Speaker 1: Duc Dizzy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been out gained in every single game this year.

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Speaker 3: Every single game they have been out gained. That includes

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Speaker 3: the Jets in Week one, That includes the Seahawks in

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Speaker 3: Week two where they lost. That includes the Viking of

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Speaker 3: the Patriots and we three where there were five turnovers

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Speaker 3: by the Patriots, two inside the opponent's two yard line.

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Speaker 3: And that includes last week against the Minnesota Vikings or

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Speaker 3: two weeks ago, i should say, against Minnesota Vikings in Ireland.

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Speaker 3: So they've been out gained every game. There's not a

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Speaker 3: single team in this division that has a positive point differential.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are minus two, the Bengals are minus seventy one,

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Speaker 3: Ravens minus thirty six, Browns minus fifty. In fact, this

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Speaker 3: is crazy. This is the worst combined division point differential

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Speaker 3: weeks one through five since the year two thousand and two,

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Speaker 3: which is not great. No, I mean not very burrow

582
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Speaker 3: Lamar injuries. Here are the worst combined point differentials by

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Speaker 3: division in the league this year. AFC North minus one

584
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty nine man NFC South minus sixty seven,

585
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Speaker 3: AFC East minus nineteen, AFC West minus five. And I'm

586
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Speaker 3: not a mathematician, but I'll pretend to be one real quickly.

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Speaker 3: Sixty seven plus nineteen is eighty six plus five is

588
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Speaker 3: ninety one. So the rest of the losing divisions there

589
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Speaker 3: are divisions that have winning differentials. The rest of the

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Speaker 3: losing divisions add up to just ninety one. Yeah, and

591
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Speaker 3: this division is one fifty nine. So they're not They

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Speaker 3: are not world beaters by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: That just goes back to, man, why it's such a

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Speaker 3: bummer We could not execute and finish that game off

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Speaker 3: against the Vikings, because then now you have a chance

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Speaker 3: to go in there and almost like catapult yourself to

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Speaker 3: the top of this division. Yeah, you know, Cincinnati with

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco, they got green Bay this week and Flacco

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Speaker 3: is gonna start. That is still going to be a

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Speaker 3: tough matchup for them. The Ravens have the Rams without

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, They're probably gonna lose. So you had a chance,

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Speaker 3: you know, really if you could have gotten that win

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota to come in here with some momentum. Then

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Speaker 3: you have the Dolphins next week, and I still look,

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Speaker 3: you're at one and four. You win this one, you

606
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Speaker 3: have a chance the Dolphins, you'll be favored. That'll be

607
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Speaker 3: one of the rare games. The Browns are favored. You'll

608
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: have a chance to get to three and four, and

609
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: that'll kind of could put you in the mix. Steelers

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Speaker 3: go us Cincinnati. Then they have a tough stretch green Bay,

611
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Speaker 3: Indianapolis and the Chargers. So we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 3: But now this team is not They're not great. Kenneth

613
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Speaker 3: Gainwell leads a team in rushing with one hundred and

614
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Speaker 3: fifty four yards and four games averaging four point four

615
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Speaker 3: yards carry. He had a career game last wee week

616
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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty four total yards two touchdowns with

617
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Speaker 3: Jalen Warren out. Warren's averaging just three point one yards

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Speaker 3: to carry and as a running back. As their second

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Speaker 3: leading receiver, they brought in John new Smith, who was

620
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Speaker 3: a pro bowler last year. Yeah, and Arthur Smith very

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Speaker 3: familiar with him, brought him to Atlanta with him. Yeah,

622
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Speaker 3: he was a pro bowler last year. He had eighty

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Speaker 3: eight catches for eight hundred and eighty four yards and

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Speaker 3: eight touchdowns. Even in that season with Arthur Smith fifty

625
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Speaker 3: for five eighty two and three, He's got fourteen catches

626
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Speaker 3: for seventy one yards. He's averaging five point one yards

627
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Speaker 3: of catch, which is nuts. Part of that is because

628
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball out so quickly. Aaron

629
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Speaker 3: Rodgers is getting the ball out and under two and

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Speaker 3: a half seconds, got one of the small shortest time

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Speaker 3: to throws in the league. And his air yards per

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Speaker 3: attempt seven point five air yards pert tempt, So everything

633
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Speaker 3: is kind of close to the line of scrimmage, not

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Speaker 3: really pushing the ball down the field, but you know

635
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Speaker 3: it's wild. You look at their tight end um john

636
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Speaker 3: Smith played thirteen reps last game, thirteen snaps. Pat Fryarmuth.

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Speaker 3: Pat Fryarmuth was a big part of what they used

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Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, I mean, I think he's got a

639
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: couple at least one seven hundred yard season under his belt. Yeah,

640
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: had seven hundred and thirty two yards and twenty twenty

641
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: two last year had sixty five catches for six fifty

642
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Speaker 3: three and seven touchdowns. He's got seven catches on ten

643
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Speaker 3: targets for sixty five yards, so it's very odd. I mean,

644
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: their receivers, Calvin Austin's third on the team. He's got

645
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: ten catches for one hundred and thirty nine yards. DK

646
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: metcalf is the leading receiver, twenty two targets, fifteen catches,

647
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Speaker 3: two sixty one and three touchdowns. He scored in three

648
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Speaker 3: of the four games, but last week were one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty six of his two to sixty one. So

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Speaker 3: the first three games were one hundred and forty so

651
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Speaker 3: under fifty yards a game. Just not prolific. Aaron Rodgers

652
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: isn't even averaging two hundred yards passing per game. He's

653
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Speaker 3: at seven hundred and eighty six yards and four starts

654
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: doesn't have a single game with two hundred and fifty

655
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Speaker 3: yards passing, but he does have the eight touchdowns, three interceptions,

656
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: and a rating of one oh three right at his

657
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: career mark, which is an incredible one oh two point six.

658
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Speaker 3: I mean, his current numbers are staggering. Sixty three thousand yards,

659
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: sixty five percent completions, five hundred and eleven touchdowns to

660
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Speaker 3: one hundred and nineteen picks. I mean, just bonkers. Their

661
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: line has been very good. Their line is only given

662
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: up thirty pressures all season, so they've been very good upfront.

663
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Speaker 3: Broderick Jones, the left tackle, their first round pick in

664
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Speaker 3: twenty three, is a week link. He's given up four

665
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Speaker 3: sacks and ten pressures. Really, the tackles have given up

666
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: four sacks, eighteen pressures. The interior of the line two sacks,

667
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: twelve pressures. So you got to get them off the edges.

668
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Speaker 3: But yeah, they're not. There's nothing dangerous about them right

669
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Speaker 3: now on offense, with the exception of DK Metcalf. Defensively,

670
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Speaker 3: that's where you know, that's where a lot of the

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Speaker 3: talent is they've got up front. You know, Cam Hayward,

672
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Speaker 3: Keanu Benton was a second rounder Derek Harmon. Their first

673
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Speaker 3: round is now played in two games. Hayward's got a sack,

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Speaker 3: Kean new Benton's got a crew high one and a half.

675
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Speaker 3: Harmon's got a sack second level. They've got great linebackers

676
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Speaker 3: Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson, both on pace for well

677
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: over one hundred tackles this season. Queen has been a

678
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowler twice. TJ. Watt is a seven time Pro bowler,

679
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: five time All Pro Defensive Player of the Year. He's

680
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Speaker 3: got He leads a team with three sacks. You know

681
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Speaker 3: he's a stud. He's always going to be good, and

682
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: all three of come in the last two games. He

683
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: had a stretch gdate back the year before, six straight

684
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Speaker 3: games without a sack. He has gotten three in his

685
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Speaker 3: last two. Nick Herbig out of Wisconsin has been playing

686
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Speaker 3: very well for them. He's second on the team with

687
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: two and a half sacks, leads a team with fourteen pressures.

688
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: He's got crazy stats eleven career sacks, seven force fumbles.

689
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Speaker 3: TJ watts thirty four force fumbles are the most any

690
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Speaker 3: active player right now. Thirty four force fumbles, one hundred

691
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: and eleven sacks. Alex high Smith has been out of late.

692
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Speaker 3: They hope that he can be back, but he's a

693
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Speaker 3: guy who obviously can get to the quarterback. In twenty

694
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Speaker 3: twenty two, had fourteen and a half sacks, five force fumbles.

695
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: Secondary is kind of a new look secondary. They brought

696
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Speaker 3: in Darius Slay. These guys are getting torched. Darius Lay

697
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: seventy five percent completions, one hundred and thirty seven rating

698
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: and coverage this year. Deshaun Elliott's playing well the safety

699
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: and he's a second game back. Jalen Ramsey's seven time

700
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: Pro bowler, three time All Pro, but he's given up

701
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: seventy percent completions in ninety two rating. Wan Thornhill might

702
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 3: surprise people to learn that he's giving up eighty nine

703
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: percent completions and one hundred and fifty five point eight

704
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: rating in coverage. So the guys have been playing well.

705
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: Brandon Eccles has played well. James Pierre has played well

706
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: for them as well at corner so far. But some

707
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Speaker 3: familiar faces from Thornhill. Gabril Peppers is there, daniel Aqualay

708
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: is there, who is a defensive tackle that spent some

709
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: time with the Browns, So it's who you know. This

710
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 3: is a team that's gonna come out and they're going

711
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: to play single high. They're gonna play man and cover

712
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: three like we do. Basically they play that, you know,

713
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: basically two thirds of time is going to be man

714
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: or Man one or Cover three, and they're gonna challenge you. Now,

715
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: they've got twelve busted coverages. They can be busty most

716
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: second most in the NFL, and hopefully they get Browns

717
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: get some of those and take advantage. But we've struggled

718
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: as an offense against man. Yeah, so I would get

719
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: ready for a heavy dose of it. That's I think

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Speaker 3: what you're going to see as a heavy dose of

721
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Speaker 3: man in this one, and you've got to be ready

722
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Speaker 3: to deal with it.

723
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Speaker 1: Should we do a guest the stats with the gm

724
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Speaker 1: N he's usually pretty good, He's very good.

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00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to, Hey, g Man, can you name the

727
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Speaker 1: list of NFL quarterbacks who have more m vps than

728
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.

729
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 6: Joe Montana's got to be one of them.

730
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Speaker 3: So he has four, that's right.

731
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Speaker 5: Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Does not. Neither is Joe. Oh no, I didn't think Joe.

733
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Speaker 5: Are there any there's one? That's the question.

734
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Speaker 3: No, he's the one. Yeah, he's what we're compared to.

735
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Speaker 3: Maybe's still on London timebe is thinking about Nachos Manning,

736
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Speaker 3: man Manning, Peyton.

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Speaker 1: Manning is the only quarterback in NFL history with that

738
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Speaker 1: has more MVPs than Aaron Rodgers. Rogers has four, Manning

739
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Speaker 1: has five. That's the list four most valuable players at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: When you were doing that stuff with like his statistical accumulation,

741
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's it's really like, because of some

742
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: of the off field stuff the last four or five years,

743
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Speaker 1: it's almost like people sometimes forget what he was. And

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Speaker 1: I think the same kind of happens with Manning, which

745
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Speaker 1: is why I wanted to have that conversation that with

746
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Speaker 1: g man Because if you weren't of a certain age

747
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: at that time and you didn't realize who Manning was,

748
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: you see him in all the ads and you see

749
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Speaker 1: Manning cast or whatever, and you think, well, it was

750
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: this guy ever a serious player? Yeah, he's the most

751
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: decorated regular season quarterback in the history of the game.

752
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: He has moral pros and and Rogers was right there.

753
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: He was just a rung below.

754
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Speaker 3: With the four.

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Speaker 1: MVPs he won back to back MVPs in twenty and

756
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Speaker 1: twenty one. Guys, this wasn't like all from twenty twelve.

757
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: He won one in eleven, one, one in fourteen one,

758
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: one and twenty and one, and one in twenty twenty one.

759
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, he is a he is a cruise

760
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: in first ballot, gold jacket, full approval.

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00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: It's like the.

762
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Speaker 1: One the guy from Indy who had the whole presentation

763
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Speaker 1: for Peyton Manning and just said it's Peyton Manning and

764
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Speaker 1: he sat down. Yeah, that's what you do. Whoever presents

765
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, it's Aaron Rodgers and you sit down.

766
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Speaker 3: I think that the one thing that is on Rogers

767
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: that takes away from it also a little bit is that.

768
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: And you can correct me if I'm wrong on this,

769
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: but I don't think I'm wrong. He's only played in

770
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: one Super Bowl, doesn't he have two?

771
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 9: No?

772
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: He lose one to Oh no, no, he beat Pittsburgh.

773
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: He beat Pittsburgh. Yeah.

774
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Well they lost those NFC championship games to San Francisco

775
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: all the time when they'd be in the cold.

776
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: In twenty ten. And that's the last thing they want,

777
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: like to only get one super Bowl, only get in one,

778
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: only get in one is crass, a little bit of

779
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: the demerit on him. Yeah, it's weird. Now in twenty sixteen,

780
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: I got to look up this twenty sixteen playoffs here,

781
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: twenty and sixteen, let's see, because that year he is phenomenal.

782
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: He loses to Atlanta in the Oh the Ryan in

783
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: the championship game and he throws for two eighty seven

784
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: with three touchdowns. They smoke the Giants. He throws for

785
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: three sixty two four touchdowns. Then they beat Dallas thirty

786
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: four to thirty one. He throws for three to fifty

787
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: five and two touchdowns. And then that game he throws

788
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: for twenty seven and three touchdowns and they they lose. Yeah,

789
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: they lose forty one to twenty forty four to twenty

790
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: one to Matt Ryan. So I mean part of it is,

791
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: like that's part of it. Then he's only gotten one

792
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: super Bowl.

793
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean we kept looking at like McCarthy

794
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: and all of it and like why is he not?

795
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Why haven't they won more?

796
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: And I know it's this is it's not fit. You

797
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: can only play who's put in front of you. But

798
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: he beat and I'm pretty sure I have this right. A. J.

799
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: Cutler led Bears team in that NFC. Yes, in that

800
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Speaker 3: NFC championship game, in a game in which Jay Keller

801
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: got knocked out. He got hurt, and he beat Caleb

802
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: Haney to go to the Super Bowl and then they

803
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: beat Pittsburgh. Yeah, and they won that game twenty one

804
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: to fourteen. Yeah, Caleb Haney. Yeah. I think that game

805
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: was in Chicago. It was in Chicago. I remember watching

806
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: it that I was frozen at Victor and Golia's house

807
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: and she would sing say that guy's name to the

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Speaker 3: tune of the Mickey Mouse on v I C E

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Speaker 3: L S.

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Speaker 1: Four Downs with your Uncle Bo and College Football Nate

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Speaker 1: Tollo gibback.

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Speaker 4: My gentlemen, were you uh fine? Working through some technical things.

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Speaker 4: But I don't like that we're figuring it out. I'm

823
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: not quite sure what's going on. Been a day, No,

824
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Speaker 4: not yet.

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: It's almost twenty hours to go.

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Speaker 4: Actually previews show tonight's Friday, fancy show tomorrow, first Friday.

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Speaker 3: I will act accordingly.

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Speaker 1: Have yourself a cocktail, absolutely, maybe four bronk out the

829
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: apple Apple cider, old fashion. I think I'm gonna break

830
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Speaker 1: out tonight season, so we'll little taste keep you warm

831
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Speaker 1: late at night.

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Speaker 3: Nice, the clowns fired up.

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Speaker 2: Love that guy.

834
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: Your burner is really crushing it today.

835
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Speaker 1: I haven't from yours yet, your boy today, Our guys, remember,

836
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: burners have given up a busy.

837
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Speaker 3: Our burners in the towel.

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00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: My car hit it first down. Ohio State is the

839
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: best team in the Big Ten. We can all agree

840
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: on that. Who are the top four in the Big ten?

841
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: Can you give me number? Two, three, and four? College football? Nate.

842
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Speaker 3: By the way, I have to say it's the best

843
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: team in the country. I've been saying. Really, if you

844
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: just like we're hanging out here for a while, I

845
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: told you Penn State was going to lose last week

846
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: because they're frosters, all right. The best teams are number

847
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: one Ohio State, yep, and then second may as well

848
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Speaker 3: be eighth. But we'll play a long Number two. I'm

849
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Speaker 3: gonna say, is Oregon I like it now, It's gonna

850
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: get dicey one thing do I like? Do I like

851
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: the the Trojans at all?

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00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: I would just well, you know, college football is omniscient.

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00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: College football and Notate's omniscient. The one thing that I

854
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: think when you think about that third spot is you

855
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: have to think about Zog's and you think about people

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00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: that he was fond of, and that he would be

857
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: fond of a certain place that is playing really good football.

858
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: In the league who had a coach. This is good

859
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: that Zogs liked a lot, the general Robert Montgomery Knight Indiana.

860
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Speaker 3: Let's go number three for me. That's Indiana's gonna be

861
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: a good job. Then try try trying on one second

862
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: and then we get one more and one more. Let

863
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: me just dive in this little.

864
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: Bit more for real.

865
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: Well for what uh we're gonna find out I think

866
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: they are. Then I'm gonna go again, or I'm gonna

867
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: go I'm gonna stay even I'm gonna stay with Michigan.

868
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say s SO Ohio State or

869
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: again Indiana, Michigan. That's my top four.

870
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: Sitka's a little it's an interesting one.

871
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: Is US. USC is not that fighting an fighting line.

872
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: I host Ohio State at noon.

873
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: I've been there for one of those noon games. It's

874
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 4: weird things happen in Champagne. Yeah, it's a basketball school.

875
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: I've only ever been there.

876
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: When I go there, it's pure hell because it's always

877
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: been in November and it's gray and windy, cold and awful,

878
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: just awful.

879
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get out.

880
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: But everybody who's who I know who's been an alumnus

881
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: loves it, so that'll be interesting. I do think the

882
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Big ten is widely I get to make sure I'm

883
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: not stepping on something widely undervalued. In the top twenty five,

884
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: there's like nine or ten SEC teams ranked. For whatever reason,

885
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: USC and Washington are't ranked. They both deserve to be ranked.

886
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: But I think you had the right four and Michigan

887
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: Bucke fans are gonna go to hear this, but Michigan

888
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: is going to be They're formidable now with the run game,

889
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: and Underwood's coming along and it's only going to get

890
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: only going to get more.

891
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: So why is Wisconsin come a cesspool? If it's a

892
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: long talk, but it is.

893
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, really the whole thing really blew up, blew up.

894
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 4: I was thinking about putting that in for next week

895
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: because Ohio State plays Wisconsin next week, because it's amazing.

896
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: At one point, I was like, next to Michigan, Wisconsin's

897
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 4: the rival for Ohio State. Well, Wisconsin goold beat Ohio.

898
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: It really wasn't Michigan even at the Wisconsin was a

899
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: much bigger threat to Ohio State in the late two

900
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: thousands to in the early twenty tens, much bigger threat,

901
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: and where the I think they were the second best

902
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: team in the conference for a while.

903
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been sad. Next second down is Penn State's.

904
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: Lost to UCLA more damaging than Michigan's infamous loss to

905
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: Appalition and State in two thousand and seven.

906
00:43:52,480 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: So yes, because I think this one puts a nail

907
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: and a coffin that is already chock full of nails

908
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: on James Franklin because he is not he's not a

909
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: real coach, He's not a big game coach, and at

910
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: some point they have to decide what do we want

911
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: to be. Do we want to be this very average,

912
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: mediocre pa.

913
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: You want to be in Iowa? Or do you want

914
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 4: to win nine or ten games y year?

915
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: That's what they are, yeh, that's what Or do you

916
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: want to like be what you purport to be? And

917
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: so I think it's more damm. The Michigan one was embarrassing,

918
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: but it was such a fluke. It was just a

919
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: to me, this is this is the final this is

920
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: the final straw.

921
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: So they got to write a fifty six million dollar

922
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: check to get rid of Franklin. Then he got to

923
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: hire the next guy with seventy five million bucks, all

924
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: the while pay for a roster and a stadium renovation.

925
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: So I don't think Penn State can do anything unless somebody,

926
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: you know Key and Michael Key writes a check for

927
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars to make it all go away,

928
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: Like that's what it would take. So I think they're

929
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with them because of the playoff. They're

930
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: actually not out of it. They if they go ten

931
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: and two, they beat Ohio. I'm not saying they will,

932
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: but they're not totally out of it yet because of

933
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: a twelve team playoff. Here's the other thing about the

934
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: Michigan thing. That loss was the catalyst to the end

935
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: of Lloyd Carr, which then became Rich Rodriguez. But it

936
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: started there. It ended with the loss of Michigan to

937
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State in the High State Michigan game, and then

938
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: it went to Rich Rodriguez after So that.

939
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: Was not necessarily not really set the program back. Yeah,

940
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: so yeah, both are damaging them. I think listen, hold

941
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: on Penn State. Number one, they're not getting in the playoff.

942
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: Number two, if they got into the playoff, that would.

943
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: Be like.

944
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: Sending Bootsies team int the playoff. That's what the chance

945
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 3: they have a winning.

946
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this. I think USC gets in

947
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: before Penn State.

948
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: USC is frist. Penn State's not beating Ohio State.

949
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have three loss and it's it's irrelevant,

950
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: but I do think they could go nine to three

951
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: and it's a long season. Like go look at the

952
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: SEC teams and who they all play. There's gonna be

953
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of them at nine and three. Like in

954
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: a year where there's where I think Ohio State has

955
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: a chance to be perfect where Oregon's going to be

956
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: eleven and one and there's some other teams like that.

957
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: There are going to be a glot of teams at

958
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: nine and three that get in a ton of them.

959
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's just way more wide open than it's been.

960
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: All right, next turn down through five games. Grade the

961
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 4: job Bill Belichick has done at North Carolina?

962
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: Are we doing letter grades? Sure? All right? E embarrassment.

963
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: It's an absolute disgrace. And the only person who I

964
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: think has done a worse job than Bill Belichick is

965
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: Mike Lombardi, who should be I mean that general manager.

966
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: Performance embarrassing. They are a disgrace. They've been beaten when

967
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: they played real teams, real teams. They lost by thirty

968
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: four to TCU, they lost by twenty five to UCF,

969
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: and they lost by twenty eight to Clemson, who's not

970
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: very good.

971
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Bills scoring drive chart of the first four touchdown drives

972
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: for Clemson, one for seventy five, it's like two for

973
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: forty six, three for fifty seven, six for sixty. It

974
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: was twenty eight nothing in four drives. They've beaten In

975
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: the first quarter, it was twenty eight nothing. Charlotte and Richmond. Yeah,

976
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: that's it. Here's the thing that makes this, I think

977
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: for people who talk so much about college football like

978
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: I do, the arrogance that Mike Lombardi and Bill Belichick

979
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: had taking over that job.

980
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: We're going to be the thirty third NFL team. Thirty

981
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: there's a one hundred and thirty third NFL teams. When

982
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: I got to Tallahassee and O one, that's what they

983
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 3: were doing. That's two thousand and one. Ohio State has

984
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: an infrastructure is that mirrors this and has since the

985
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: end of Tressel. And then when Urban got there, it

986
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: went nuts. That's a dozen years plus. They thought they

987
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: were reinventing the wheel. Brother. They're not.

988
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: Is the general manager has no relationship with high school coaches,

989
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: and he thought he's gonna.

990
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: Go poll kids to Carolina. What are you talking about?

991
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: They're not even illusional. They're not even the thirty third

992
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: college team. I got one for You want to hire

993
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: eighty eighth out of one hundred and thirty six. They're

994
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: even worse than that.

995
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 10: Here.

996
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: This is worse than Urban in the NFL. It's on

997
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: that level. Well, you've got the like if drama part

998
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: of it. If you take the offield stuff from urban out.

999
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: It's worse. Yeah, yeah they are. What are the next steps?

1000
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: They're going to fire that environment? Find a buyout is

1001
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: what they gotta do. Gosh, imagine being that You're like,

1002
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: how could this go bad? It's would you think that

1003
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: it would go good? Because they're a year old man

1004
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: who has no point of reference in the sport. No, right,

1005
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: it's not the same sport. It's not the same sport.

1006
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: Next spoor it's down by the way.

1007
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: Is a Duke fan anytime North Carolina can fail in

1008
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: anything and that This is just colossal excitement and happiness

1009
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: for me.

1010
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: I love every part of it.

1011
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: How many of Texas's issues, what percentage of Texas's issues

1012
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: are on arch Manning versus the rest of the team.

1013
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm a little surprised

1014
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: by what I have seen and what appears to be

1015
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: the talent drop off for a program with that type

1016
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: of financial backing and just prominence from last year to

1017
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: this year. So I do think arch Manning has not

1018
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: been what people assumed he would be just because his

1019
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: last name was Banning. But the team around him is

1020
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: compared to like last year's he would smoke this team.

1021
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't block it, so he has no protection.

1022
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: They can't run it, so they can't really have any

1023
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: play action, which doesn't make sense. They have five star

1024
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: kids at running back, it makes no sense. They've really

1025
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: been on the outside. Who's scary. Their number one defensive player,

1026
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: kid named Colin Simmons, has no sacks on the year,

1027
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: and he was a guy people projected as a top

1028
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: ten pick. So they've got a litany of problems. And

1029
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: he's also struggling mightily, in part because of those litany

1030
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: of those problems, in part because just mechanically he's in

1031
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: a really weird place right now. He does not look

1032
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: physically like the kid who threw last year and looked

1033
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: very natural slinging it.

1034
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: He doesn't look like that at all.

1035
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: It looks like when you watch him play now, it's

1036
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: almost like he can't wait to duck to tucket and run,

1037
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: like you can't wait to just get out of the

1038
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: pocket and go Yeah, And that's.

1039
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: Never a way to be successful. That's not the man anyway.

1040
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: No uh bonus time game in a Century Saturday zero

1041
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: and five UMass versus one in four Kent State in

1042
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: what ESPN writer Ryan McGee dubbed Saturday's pillow fight of

1043
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: the Week of the Year of the century, Mega Bowl.

1044
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: So you got I once saw a flight of the

1045
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: concords at Kent State. Kent State wins.

1046
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: There's a man sitting in that room who is an

1047
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: alumnus of Kent State. And I'll be damned if I'm

1048
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: going to standford besmirching of his university on this fine show.

1049
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: Give me the flashes by a billion yes, same bye,

1050
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: a billion. Good uniforms too.

1051
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: Let's go, and I'll say this Kent State all day long,

1052
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: because you shouldn't be allowed to be in a conference

1053
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 4: and be a football only school.

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: Are they in one of those Oh yeah, that we

1055
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: welcome in as a football Hey, get your ass in.

1056
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 4: Here is a basketball in Let's go.

1057
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: What's keeping you mass out there? Not Yukon Marcus Camby's

1058
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: a long time ago, man boat racism. It's been a minute.

1059
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: All right, good job, there you go.

1060
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Four downs College Football night, and your uncle bo Christian

1061
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,160
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1062
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,759
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1063
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1064
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,400
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1065
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,280
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1066
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: Very happy to be joyned now for the first time

1067
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: by Browns tight end coach Christian Jones. Christian, first of all,

1068
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: this is the first time we've gotten to talk, so

1069
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: welcome to Cleveland.

1070
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 2: Happy to be here, very.

1071
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: Happy to have you. So for people who may not

1072
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: know your background, let's go back twenty nineteen. You're a

1073
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: member of the Minnesota Vikings. Who else was a member

1074
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: of the Minnesota Vikings at that time, but our head

1075
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: coach Kevin Stefanski. Did you know when he departed after

1076
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 3: that season that someday you guys were gonna work together again.

1077
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: Not at all. I had accepted that we were just

1078
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: two ships passing it a night.

1079
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 11: I got the opportunity to work with him, and honestly,

1080
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 11: you know, I was very thankful to have the opportunity

1081
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 11: to be in an NFL.

1082
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: I thought I'd be a college coach my whole.

1083
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 11: Career, okay, and getting to see that level of football

1084
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 11: work with Gary Kubiak, Who's somebody I grew up watching

1085
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 11: I'm from Houston, so I was a big.

1086
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: Texts fan, so you know Matt job and Andre Johnson

1087
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: all of that.

1088
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, the Cortland Finnean fight, Oh yeah, absolutely, Closter

1089
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 11: on my wall. So it was great and just really

1090
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 11: encouraging to see that I can kind of hang at

1091
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 11: that level of football.

1092
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: So I was just really thankful for the opportunity.

1093
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: So you have that opportunity there, you worked with wide receivers,

1094
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 3: then you go to the Giants, work with quarterbacks. So

1095
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: three years in Minnesota, three years there, now your seventh

1096
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: season in the NFL, So certainly you've made a career

1097
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: out of this. How did we get to this point?

1098
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: How did you get a call? Did they say, hey,

1099
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: are you interested coming in? How did we get to

1100
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 3: you being sitting here right now?

1101
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 11: It was a simple, you know, they told the team

1102
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 11: they reached out to me, and they went through the

1103
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 11: proper channel to reach out to me, and I got

1104
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 11: the opportunity and I took it. I thought, you know,

1105
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 11: there's no better opportunity to learn than doing it. And

1106
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 11: you can always sit on the sidelines and say, man,

1107
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 11: I think i'd be good until you take that leap.

1108
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: You'll ever know.

1109
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 11: So it was all about taking a risk, showing what

1110
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 11: I can do. And again I'm thankful for another opportunity

1111
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 11: for Kevin.

1112
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: So is this your first this is your first time

1113
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: with your own room.

1114
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.

1115
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: So that's very cool, and you know Kevin's story. I mean,

1116
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: Kevin worked with every single part of the offense and

1117
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: you're starting to build that resume now as well, from

1118
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: receivers to quarterbacks. And then they say tight ends is

1119
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: the one room where you're in everything. You're a part

1120
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: of the run game, You're a part of the pass game.

1121
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 11: As I've learned, As I've learned, it's been great. I

1122
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 11: mean the learning I've had since I've stepped in this

1123
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 11: building has been exponential.

1124
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: It has changed me in so many ways. From dealing

1125
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: with the players.

1126
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 11: You know, Dave's an awesome guy to work with, like

1127
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 11: to work with, manage, help out during the season.

1128
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: Harold's been great to work with.

1129
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 11: We've got Blake Whitehart in the room, had Brendan Bates

1130
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 11: and salth Canela, and they've all been awesome. I really

1131
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 11: appreciate each one of them for helping me learn something

1132
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 11: new each day, Like all of them teach me something.

1133
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: These States. It's been great to learn from all.

1134
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 3: Right, So you get this opportunity to come here, Like

1135
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: you said, you're liking working with the room. What has

1136
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 3: it been like to see your guys now through five games.

1137
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: You know, Harold's leading the team in receptions, he's third

1138
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: in yards, David is second in reception, second in yards.

1139
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: Very productive part of what we're doing here, and probably

1140
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 3: ties in a little bit too. You know what you

1141
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 3: saw earlier in your career in Minnesota.

1142
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 11: I think it's a testament to the guys and how

1143
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 11: they came in and worked and how they've been accepting

1144
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 11: of the message from Tommy, from Kevin.

1145
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: You know, it's from the top down.

1146
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 11: Kevin wanted a certain ideal from the team, you want

1147
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 11: a certain identity, and they fully embraced it. I'm just

1148
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 11: there to deliver the message and motivating the and encourage

1149
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 11: them to chase that standard that we've been setting.

1150
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: So it's a testament to them.

1151
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 11: They've worked hard, they've done the job that you asked,

1152
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 11: the jobs that we've asked him to do, and I

1153
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 11: can't be anything but proud of them for that. Now,

1154
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 11: that's a long season. It's a long season. It's a

1155
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 11: good start. Yeah, it's a great start.

1156
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: This is a very good start. You got a pro

1157
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: bowler obviously, and then you've got a guy coming in

1158
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: his rookie year, and he mentioned Blake as well in there.

1159
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: But those are the two kind of main guys. Did

1160
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: you know coming into the season, or when you first

1161
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 3: came here and took the job, that we were gonna

1162
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: be so twelve personnel heavy that you weren't gonna have

1163
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: to just get one guy ready every week, two of

1164
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 3: them are going to be out there the majority of

1165
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: the time.

1166
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my mind right on that.

1167
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 11: Immediately I went back and watched the film, saw how

1168
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 11: they were in twenty one. All the way up to

1169
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 11: this year, I knew I'd have at least more than

1170
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 11: one guy in there. So the adjustments we've been making

1171
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 11: as the years have gone on have been a fun

1172
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 11: adjustment for me and having to learn and take on

1173
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 11: more of a role.

1174
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: But it's been something I've been ready for.

1175
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: How interesting is it working with and he've worked with

1176
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 3: obviously some elite players, certainly when you're with the receivers

1177
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: in minnesot justin Jefferson and didn't need to see him

1178
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: do so much in London. But nonetheless he's that's what

1179
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: the great ones do. To have a guy like David

1180
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: who's been a pro bowler, who has very much you know,

1181
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: been in this league a long time now, drafted back

1182
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, and then having Harold come in from

1183
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 3: the area kind of unheralded coming out of high school

1184
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden finds himself as one

1185
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: of the more productive young tight ends in the game.

1186
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 11: Dave has been fun to work with in the sense

1187
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 11: that he brings a lot of energy, a lot of

1188
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 11: joy to the building and.

1189
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: It's it hard to paral at times.

1190
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 11: No, I mean, you jingle the keys sometimes, just keep

1191
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 11: his attention locked in. But I mean, keV, they're the

1192
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 11: resources here have been awesome and that's that's a credit

1193
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 11: to the ownership here. And you know, we have a

1194
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 11: walk through room that we can get guys on turf,

1195
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 11: they can feel the grass. It's a different environment for

1196
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 11: them they have to learn from, yeah, and that's something

1197
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 11: that's been very beneficial for him. And with Harold, you

1198
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 11: know coming in, you know he's a rookie trying to

1199
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 11: get adjusted to the room. Dave's really good at getting

1200
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 11: guys to come out of their shell and be themselves

1201
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 11: in the room. So it's just been great to see

1202
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 11: him grow into you know, more of a vocal player,

1203
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 11: helping guys out on the field, being locked in, like

1204
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 11: Harold's gotten better every week.

1205
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that you see from him when

1206
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: he first got here.

1207
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 11: So it's been great to see Dave encourage him and

1208
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 11: help him grow and Harold just embrace that, embrace his role.

1209
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 11: And I mean he's been getting used more than most

1210
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 11: people I've seen in the league, and he's embraced that

1211
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 11: a lot, and it's been really impressive to see.

1212
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: I'm very proud.

1213
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think we all knew if you watch his

1214
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: hape that he was gonna come in here. He's gonna

1215
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: be able to run routes and catch the football. You

1216
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: don't know about blocking. He wasn't asked to block. They're

1217
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 3: not taking their best player and asking him to block

1218
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: at Bowling Green. But you know, you talk to any

1219
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: of the guys on the offensive line, he is willing.

1220
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: He gets in there in the mix. So that probably

1221
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: is the biggest adjuntsman and I'm sure that's something you're

1222
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: very proud of for him to be able to embrace

1223
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: it because it's blocking defensive ends in the NFL is

1224
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: not easy, especially if you were basically a wide receiver

1225
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: in college, which he was.

1226
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 11: And he's got that mindset. He played safety when he

1227
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 11: was in high school, so he's got that mindset. And

1228
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 11: I'll tell you what, when he gets on the field, man,

1229
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 11: he locks in. He does what he's asked. He wants

1230
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 11: to help the team win. And again it's I'm just

1231
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 11: happy to see him go out there and do his thing.

1232
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: Man.

1233
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 11: All I can do is help him understand the plays,

1234
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 11: understander's role in the offense. He's got to go out

1235
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 11: there and do it, and he does it. That's very encouraging,

1236
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 11: all right.

1237
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: So in London, we get down there, you hear the

1238
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: play call, I'm sure through the headset, and you probably

1239
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: have a pretty good idea that maybe this is going

1240
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: to be Harold's first touchdown in the league. Then it happens.

1241
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: How excited were you for that?

1242
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: It felt amazing?

1243
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 11: And again it's for him, the things he's been through

1244
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 11: to score where he did in London like he did,

1245
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 11: it's nothing but great things for him, and it's gonna

1246
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 11: be a lot.

1247
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: More in his future.

1248
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: And then you come back and the next touchdown is

1249
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: your other day. David Nijoku, how about that? And that

1250
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: was listen, that was a great When I watched that,

1251
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: we do a little play breakdown, and that was the

1252
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: play that we broke down. You know, when he gets

1253
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: into Byron Murphy and creates that space and had won

1254
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: the route at that point, then you just wondering will

1255
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: the quarterback get back to it quick enough? And he does,

1256
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: puts it on there and he makes a great contested

1257
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: catch that was just perfect route. Took advantage of his

1258
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: size and then secured a great catch in the middle

1259
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: of three guys.

1260
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 11: And I'll say this, you know, there was questions when

1261
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 11: we were in the off season of you know, how

1262
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 11: do you you know, asking about quarterbacks who's playing. And

1263
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 11: the one thing that we want to do is focus

1264
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 11: on our job and be good for whoever's in the game.

1265
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 11: And I think that's a testament to Dave and Harold,

1266
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 11: like whoever's in the game, make sure you're doing your

1267
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 11: job the right way. Make sure you're executing your job

1268
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 11: that way you're supposed to. The ball finds you. And

1269
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 11: I'm happy for Dave that he got that moment to

1270
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 11: score the touchdown.

1271
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: Was your time in New York maybe helpful for that

1272
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: because in Minnesota you had pretty good stability, I would imagine.

1273
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: I can't remember if Kurt missed some time maybe in twenty,

1274
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: but for it was pretty much Kirk Cousins night and

1275
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: then and of course in New York in your room

1276
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people playing quarterback for you there,

1277
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: So has that kind of helped your mindset of hey man,

1278
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: show's got to go on? Because the miniso would be

1279
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: very easy to say we got Kurt that he's gonna

1280
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: he knows exactly what he's got to do. But you

1281
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: saw firsthand that change. I know you had to get

1282
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito ready to go and turned him into an

1283
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: internet sensation for a little bit of a while there.

1284
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 3: You know, how has that kind of helped you here

1285
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: where we're already on, you know, to Dylan and and

1286
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: he's playing I thought did a very good job in

1287
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 3: his debut.

1288
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1289
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 11: Well, I'll say this, Tommy worked hard, worked very hard,

1290
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 11: shouted Tommy.

1291
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: Uh, he did that himself. I was there to help

1292
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: him learn office, but he did himself.

1293
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: And you already speak like a head coach by the way,

1294
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Speaker 3: Can I just say that you already got it down? Man,

1295
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: you got it down.

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Speaker 11: I'm big on helping everybody else out. I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 11: it's yeah, coach, is your success, Jimmys and Joe's not

1298
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 11: the exson O's. I'm just here to help facilitate. But

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Speaker 11: you know, it's something where I think it comes from

1300
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 11: my experience as a player. I played in Northwestern. I

1301
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 11: dealt with a lot of quarterback change and understand that

1302
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Speaker 11: like the only way to give that guy confidence is

1303
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 11: him knowing that I'm going to be exactly on the

1304
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 11: spot that I need to be in and I'm going

1305
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 11: to be doing exactly what i need to be doing

1306
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 11: when he's looking at.

1307
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Speaker 2: Throw the ball. And that's what I try to instill

1308
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 2: and tell the guys.

1309
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 11: It's hey, it doesn't matter who's throwing the ball now,

1310
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 11: spins different when it's a lefty versus already, but it's

1311
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 11: all about doing your job and being ready to go.

1312
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Speaker 2: So I think, you know, being in the.

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Speaker 11: Quarterback room, seeing how the mindset changes going from a

1314
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Speaker 11: backup to a starter, and the trust that you have

1315
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Speaker 11: to have and the guys in front of you outside

1316
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Speaker 11: behind you at the running back spot. That's that's all

1317
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 11: super important. All that means is do I trust them

1318
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Speaker 11: to do their job? Can I hit my back foot

1319
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Speaker 11: on a three plant on a ste three step drop,

1320
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Speaker 11: get the ball out on time? Nowhere the ball no,

1321
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Speaker 11: where's gonna be?

1322
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Speaker 2: I think that's all it's about.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to you just dropped in there, like, Yeah,

1324
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Speaker 3: I played in Northwestern casually, All right, where give us

1325
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Speaker 3: a little rundown of the Christian Jones Northwestern experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I played receiver.

1327
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 11: Came in at two twenty tour my cl so I

1328
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 11: jumped up from two hundred to two twenty.

1329
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Speaker 2: Play receiver for five years.

1330
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Speaker 11: I tore my cl and had a microfracture surgery going

1331
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 11: on my senior again, so I red shirted and went

1332
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 11: from two twenty to two thirty five.

1333
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Speaker 2: So at that point out now you're practically tell you're

1334
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: getting ready to be a tight end.

1335
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Speaker 11: I was essentially playing tight end. I was already blocking

1336
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 11: the linebackers before. But you know, my history with injuries

1337
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 11: also kind of guide me in my journey and coaching.

1338
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 11: I truly, I truly try to see the player as

1339
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 11: a person, yeah, and try to guide them along and

1340
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 11: you know what's going to help them as being a

1341
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 11: good teammate and in the future. So you know, that's

1342
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 11: really what I try to lean on when I come

1343
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 11: into football. I think, you know, you learn that the

1344
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 11: game doesn't stop like you get hurt. In practice, they

1345
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 11: move it up. They're gonna check on you, but they

1346
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 11: move it up and they keep going. And so the

1347
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 11: only way you can help somebody feel like they're appreciated,

1348
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 11: it feel like they're valued, is to really pour yourself

1349
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Speaker 11: into them.

1350
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Speaker 2: And that's what I try to do.

1351
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Speaker 3: That's a great mindset and as you unders said, you

1352
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: have unfortunately the experience with him, we saw at m

1353
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: j Emerson yep right there early in training camp, one

1354
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 3: of my favorite guys on this team, and it sucks.

1355
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: That's one of the hard parts about this business, right

1356
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: is it is a very physical business. And things happened,

1357
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: Dwan Jones goes down and you've got to keep going,

1358
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: and it is the it is a true next man

1359
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: up business. Now, if you had to go one on

1360
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: one with Greg Newsom prime, Christian Jones prime, Greg Newsom

1361
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: at Northwestern, you didn't know it was coming because I

1362
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 3: didn't know it was coming. And now here we are

1363
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Speaker 3: and it's good fun. Have you guys discussed this? Have

1364
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: you guys discussed a theoretical one on one between all?

1365
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: Does he even know you played Northwestern? Yeah? He does.

1366
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 2: Okay, he does. But I play.

1367
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 11: I coach for the brown So I'm gonna say Greg

1368
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 11: News will win that rep. But my pride won't let me.

1369
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna say, Greg you get the rep, but

1370
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Speaker 11: it'll probably be fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 9: I like that.

1372
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Speaker 2: I like that.

1373
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: Let all right, what's something you want Browns fans to

1374
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: know about you? Other than that you're stewarding this tight

1375
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: end room with great a plom so far through the

1376
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: first part of the season. What something you want to

1377
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: know about you, just as a person doesn't have to

1378
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: do anything with football, anything you want them to know

1379
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: so when they think, Yo, Christian Jones, tight end coach,

1380
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns.

1381
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Speaker 11: I am married to Jessica Carroll. She's the athlete of

1382
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 11: the family. She went to Northwestern as well. He was

1383
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 11: the lacrosse player national champion.

1384
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: All right. I got a dog, Bucky at homes Pitt

1385
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: lab Mix.

1386
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: He's going on.

1387
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Speaker 11: He's five years old right now. And I'm a big

1388
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 11: soccer fan, actually a Totenham fan. It's going on my

1389
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 11: thirteenth year actually, So was that wild for you to

1390
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 11: walk into that stadium? It's actually my second time playing there. Okay, Yeah,

1391
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 11: so I wasn't as much you know, emotional for me then,

1392
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 11: but it's still always great to be there. Man, I

1393
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 11: haven't been in the game there yet, so to be

1394
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 11: there and play a game there and coach.

1395
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Speaker 3: There is to make sure you get to a game there,

1396
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: hopefully the spring.

1397
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully the spring. So I mean, if you want to

1398
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: send this out, yeah, no, I'm coming. I'm trying to

1399
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: go there.

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Speaker 3: Is that the nicest locker room in professional sports? I

1401
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: was blown away by when I walked there. I'm like,

1402
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: this is what we need to build right here. It's unbelievable.

1403
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: It's locker room, very good locker room.

1404
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then they got at the top of the stag

1405
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: they got the little what's their mask? I know they're

1406
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 3: the Spurs.

1407
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: What what is that?

1408
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 3: What the bird is the cock?

1409
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1410
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing.

1411
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeahl from the old stadium, from the old stadium.

1412
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: Because that they brought over.

1413
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

1414
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: Play. That's really cool. So what did you think of

1415
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: the whole London an experience.

1416
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 11: I think it's awesome. I've been to London a few

1417
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 11: times before. I I love London, out door London. It's

1418
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 11: a great time. My wife lived in northern part of England.

1419
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: For about a year.

1420
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 11: She went to Durham. Okay there so, but we visit

1421
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 11: a few times. I absolutely loved it. I'm all about

1422
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 11: full l English breakfast. I grew up in Texas. I'm

1423
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 11: from Houston, so I love big beans. So bake beans

1424
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 11: on breakfast. You're in h I'm in there.

1425
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: That was she able to make it out? She was okay, Yeah,

1426
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: she was at the game. My mom went as well.

1427
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: She traveled.

1428
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 11: She went a week early, went to Switzerland in Paris,

1429
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 11: like she always finds an excuse to travel.

1430
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've had Hugh City, You've had Minnesota, you've

1431
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: had the bright lights, big city, New York. Now Cleveland.

1432
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: What do you think Cleveland, Cleveland, you're getting the bast

1433
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, Cleveland, you're getting the absolute best

1434
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,959
Speaker 3: weather in the history of this city.

1435
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 11: So don't get to you so well, I drove up

1436
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 11: in February and I drove straight into a snowstorm.

1437
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: So I got to see the worst. Okay, you know,

1438
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: come to Minnesota, come from Minnesota. I can deal with it. Yeah,

1439
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: I can deal with it.

1440
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 11: So my first week in Minnesota was my first day

1441
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 11: was four inches of snow. Then it dropped down to

1442
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 11: minus twenty. Then we got four more inches the next day,

1443
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 11: then it dropped back down. I went out to my

1444
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 11: car and my hotel was standing when I first got there,

1445
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 11: and there's somebody scraping ice off my car, and I

1446
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 11: was so confused what was going on.

1447
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: And it turns out the guy was like, oh, it

1448
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: comes with the room. So I got complimentary ice craping.

1449
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: I've never heard of such a thing.

1450
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't want to leave as soon as you

1451
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: said that, but it was. It was a lesson for me.

1452
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: And now I'm locked.

1453
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: Good, Now you're locked to get well. You also know

1454
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: that I think right now currently and at twenty twenty nine,

1455
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: it'll be a different answer, But right now, I think

1456
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: US Bank Staium is the best stadium in the league.

1457
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: Like I think it's awesome, and the fact that the

1458
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: people who designed that stadium are now designing our new

1459
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: stadium has me very excited.

1460
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 11: I can see some hints of that in there. It's

1461
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 11: a beautiful looking stadium. There's gonna be wandering. Looks fantastic.

1462
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 11: It's gonna be a great time. I'm happy for the city.

1463
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 11: I'm really so.

1464
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: You've had a lot of experience your domes and outdoors.

1465
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: Is what is your preference.

1466
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 11: I like to have the option keep it retractable. I

1467
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 11: like that if you want some sunlight, it's from sunlight.

1468
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 11: You want some rain, throw them off, get some rain

1469
01:05:59,160 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 11: in there.

1470
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Speaker 3: I'd imagine you've been you spend your time on the

1471
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: offensive side, You don't you like perfect conditions for everything

1472
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: is just perfect for your quarterback.

1473
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't like when it's cold. Receivers do on like

1474
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 2: when it's cold?

1475
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 9: No?

1476
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: Right, Organ and Ryan, So you're right?

1477
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Indoor, Oh you're always open. I mean you know

1478
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: what I mean. There's too much space there. You don't

1479
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: get anybody. Christian. Great to get to meet you. It's

1480
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: awesome to have you on the staff. Done a great

1481
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: job so far. Excited to see what you guys keep

1482
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: get going. And then obviously big challenge this week with

1483
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Your first taste of Brown Steelers. So

1484
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: that's gonna be you excited for that.

1485
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I can't wait. Yeah, so I cannot wait.

1486
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: What I need you to do is help us go

1487
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: get a win there in the regular season. So I've

1488
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: been here, like I said twenty thirteen, I have at Okay,

1489
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 3: So we're gonna bring you in here. I like the

1490
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: confidence that you're exuding right now. We're gonna work on that. Christian,

1491
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 3: thanks so much for the time.

1492
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me all right.

1493
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 3: It was Christian Jones, Brown's tight end coach and a

1494
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: nice edition of the staff. I gotta enjoyed getting a

1495
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: chance to talk with him. When we come back, we're

1496
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: gonna talk with Ben Baby about the Joe Flacco trade

1497
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,320
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Speaker 3: Cleveland and welcome in. Ben Baby, ESPN NFL Nation reporter

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Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati Bengals. All right, Ben, we heard that

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Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski Andrew Berry, the Browns organization, they were very

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Speaker 3: surprised to get the phone call from the Bengals saying

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Speaker 3: we would like Joe Flacco. How surprised were you? Not

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Speaker 3: so much at the Bengals wanted to get a new quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think we all saw that coming, but that it

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Speaker 3: was Joe Flacco and that the Browns were willing to

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Speaker 3: send him down to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, obviously very surprised that Placo was the guy.

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Speaker 12: You know, when talking to people here, it seems like

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 12: there wasn't a ton of great options, especially when you

1523
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 12: look at the price it would take to get somebody

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 12: who's essentially going to be a rental for one season,

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Speaker 12: if you can get him through the whole season, you know,

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Speaker 12: I think that's the big question. And then when they

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Speaker 12: looked at it, they liked what Placo had a lot

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Speaker 12: of arm power, a guy who's played a lot of football,

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Speaker 12: who understands basically anything you could possibly ask him to do,

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Speaker 12: and to get him up to speed quickly in this

1531
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 12: offense going into Sunday, I think was important. And so

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Speaker 12: you know, I asked that Taylor and kind of how

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Speaker 12: it happened, and it sounded like Duke Tobin, their the

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Speaker 12: facto general manager, was one who spearheaded, you know, this

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01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 12: decision to go out and get Joe. He ran it

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Speaker 12: by Zach and Zach gave his approval. And then you know,

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Speaker 12: the next thing Zach found out was that, hey, the

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 12: trugger had been pulled and they went ahead and made

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 12: the decision to trade for Flacco. And so that's why

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Speaker 12: he was here where at number sixteen went at a

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Speaker 12: Begals practice. Definitely a strange turn of events, but ultimately

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 12: one that had to be done given how the offense

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Speaker 12: has looked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, people are saying well, why would

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 3: they think they could go with Jake Browning. But you

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01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: go back a couple of years ago when he had

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Speaker 3: to step in and he played just fine, seventy percent

1548
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 3: completions looked good. What changed? What happened?

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Speaker 12: It's interesting because you know, I give Jake a ton

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01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 12: of credit. He talked to reporters today talk from the

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Speaker 12: person time after being benched. He had some words on

1552
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 12: his feelings that we can't say on radio. But you know,

1553
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 12: he's been taking this. You know, I think it's been

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Speaker 12: very realistic about how this is. When he took his

1555
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 12: share of the playing for you know, the bad football

1556
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 12: d and played the amount of turnovers. It was interesting though,

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Speaker 12: and I asked him kind of a differences in the offense.

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Speaker 12: He didn't really want to get into it a ton

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Speaker 12: and he did kind of allude to you know, he

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Speaker 12: understood his part, but there were other factors as well

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 12: that were played a part in the situation. So I

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 12: thought that was an interesting comment. When you look at it.

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Speaker 12: There are some schematic differences between this time and last

1564
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 12: time when he came in for Burrow when he was injured.

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Speaker 12: But you know, the main thing in talking to Dan

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01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 12: Pitch with the Bengals offensive coordinator is that it seemed

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01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 12: like the confidence and rhythom that he had in twenty

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 12: twenty three, it just wasn't there this year. And I

1569
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 12: think that has got to be the bigger concern. You

1570
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 12: want a quarterback who's in the right headspace. I think

1571
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 12: it's clear right now it is not necessarily where Browning is.

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 12: That he's got to try to go out and make

1573
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 12: some plays resulted in some interceptions, and so now that's

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Speaker 12: why they had to make a change.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're getting Joe Flack, a guy who certainly can

1576
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: make plays, but interceptions have been his issue too, even

1577
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Speaker 3: in the best of times in late twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: How do they expect, you know, because he's not the

1579
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: most mobile guy, how they expect to protect him? Because

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Speaker 3: I know that's been a big issue so far this season.

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: But if you give him time, he's going to get

1582
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: the ball to Chase and Higgins and Yoshavasha, and I

1583
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 3: think they're going to have a great time with him

1584
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Speaker 3: throwing them the ball.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there's going to be a whole lot

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Speaker 12: of the receivers who are down there somewhere. I mean,

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Speaker 12: I went back and watched that twenty twenty three tape

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Speaker 12: and Joe won't push the windows that you probably should

1589
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 12: not be pushing Truck Street to squeeze the ball into there.

1590
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 12: And sometimes that goes great. Sometimes on a first down

1591
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 12: late in the game, it will end up an interception.

1592
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 12: So I'm very serious to see how that looks protection plan.

1593
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 12: I think they're going to have to figure that out.

1594
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 12: It hasn't been great this year when with a more

1595
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 12: mobile quarterback, and I think that's something that isn't being

1596
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 12: talked about enough, is that Browning had at least some mobility, yeah,

1597
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 12: to be able to to you know, when when things

1598
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 12: would happen. I think they're hoping that they can get

1599
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 12: the ball out quickly and that you're you're able to

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 12: go out and take advantage of some quick game and

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01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 12: then see what your spots are and get some one

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 12: on ones, hopefully with Jamar Chase and Ti Higgins. You know,

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01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,839
Speaker 12: Zach Taylor didn't note the arm strength that the Flaco

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 12: has allows you to, you know, wait a little bit

1605
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 12: longer and you know, and I think that's something that's

1606
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 12: a big benefit, you know, even compared to Joe Burrow,

1607
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 12: who throws with great anticipation. As as Zach said, Flaco's

1608
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 12: got the arm strength that you can try to maybe

1609
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 12: push the ball a little bit downfield. So that's a

1610
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 12: very interesting, you know, situation that they're going to be in.

1611
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 12: But like you said, they're going to have to protect

1612
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 12: him because even this year, you see the numbers, especially

1613
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 12: against the Blitz, you know, it does not go well.

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 12: They're gonna have to find ways to put him in

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 12: good situations to see.

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Speaker 3: What are the what are what should be the realistic

1617
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: expectations for this team. They can't run the ball, and

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01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's just because Joe Burrow's been gone,

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01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,959
Speaker 3: but they've struggled to run it. They've not been particularly

1620
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 3: good on d What are the realistic expectations? And does

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Speaker 3: the trade for Joe Flacco with the hope that he

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Speaker 3: can get them, you know, into the playoffs.

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Speaker 12: I think the best case scenario is that you get

1624
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 12: somebody who kind of changes the momentum of what now

1625
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 12: things are looking. Offensively, He's able to make the plays

1626
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 12: that are presented, get the ball out quickly, you know,

1627
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 12: find the right looks, find the right reads, and then

1628
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 12: take your shots downfield. It's enough to get this offense.

1629
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 12: I mean, just about anything is better than what this

1630
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 12: offense is done, especially early in these last three games.

1631
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 12: So I think that is the hope. You know, realistically,

1632
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 12: is that possible, I don't know. I mean, he was

1633
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 12: benched in Cleveland for a reason. His total QBR is

1634
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 12: actually worse than Jake Browning's all things considered, you know,

1635
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 12: And now Jakes does get patted a little bit by

1636
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 12: the late game garage against the Detroit Lions. But you know,

1637
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 12: I think that it's a very fair question. I think

1638
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 12: they're going to try to hope and see if they

1639
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 12: can get some wins, and I don't you know, this

1640
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 12: week might end up being a wash. It's really on

1641
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 12: the five games direct where you play the Steelers twice,

1642
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 12: you have the Jets, the Bears, and the Patriots. If

1643
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 12: you can fat some wins there, now all of a sudden,

1644
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 12: you're going to be back over five hundred and Joe

1645
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 12: Burrow's timeline to get back gets a little bit closer.

1646
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 12: So I think that ideally is the best case scenario.

1647
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 12: Whether Flacco's good enough to deal with that or not,

1648
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 12: you know, that remains me seen. Now, I will say,

1649
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 12: since this is a Browns broadcast year. I'm gonna be honest,

1650
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 12: I love this trade for the Cleveland Browns. I think

1651
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 12: that Andrew Berry and the Browns are a big winner

1652
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 12: in this. They were they take advantage of being able

1653
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 12: to move up into the fifth and when you look

1654
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 12: at what they're doing this year, I think if you're

1655
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 12: a Browns fan, you've got to be thrilled at this.

1656
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 12: You get an additional draft pick, you get a full

1657
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 12: runway on the young quarterbacks that you have, and if

1658
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 12: this year doesn't go the way you know you want

1659
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,480
Speaker 12: it too. In terms of wins, you're able to evaluate

1660
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 12: and really take advantage of twenty twenty six and really

1661
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 12: be in a good position to compete at a high

1662
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 12: level moving forward. If they can continue to.

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Speaker 3: Drop, well, yeah, that certainly is the hope here. And

1664
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: we've seen Andrew Berry use fifth round picks to get

1665
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy and Amari Cooper in the past, so getting

1666
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 3: one of those is certainly not a bad deal at all. Ben,

1667
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: thank you so much for the time. Joe Flacco chance

1668
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: to beat the Green Bay Packers twice in six weeks

1669
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 3: with two different teams is kind of crazy, so at

1670
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: least you know he knows their defense. He knows that

1671
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: well and should be able to get up to speak quickly.

1672
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: But that'll be a fun one to watch. Ben, thanks

1673
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 3: so much. Okay, thank you all all right. Ben baby NFESPN,

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Speaker 3: I got it done. Last week we've disobeyed it. We're

1683
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Speaker 3: flown about. Last week was a little bit tougher. We

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Speaker 4: Also a reminder Brown's preview show tonight seven to eight

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Speaker 4: on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Aiden Huntington

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Speaker 4: and Andrew Siciliano joined Carmen and Cherry. Let's go so

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Speaker 4: we've got that as well, but right now, there's always time. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you demanded it.

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 3: I tried to demand it. You tried to get rid

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Speaker 3: of it, right so people love it. I know, I

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Speaker 3: just had to fit it in. And then he attacked me.

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Speaker 4: Eh, I mean it's it's such a trivial word. And

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Speaker 4: the two of you both smirk it like he's smirking.

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Speaker 4: You smirk at each other's for a wall.

1706
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: Because man knows, we know now you're now you're now

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Speaker 3: you have you have like a real time fact checker

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Speaker 3: in there to keep you honest. And I don't think

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Speaker 3: you liked that, Just like when when the Internet was

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Speaker 3: invented and I could check my father in real time,

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,479
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Speaker 3: You could check.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I'm wrong. I'll lead it off

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Speaker 4: with I'm wrong, but I'm still gonna die on the hill.

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Speaker 3: Yes you will. There you go. Wednesday Night Tapes, Week.

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Speaker 4: Six in the NFL. Time to guess the scores. Thursday

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Speaker 4: Night Football. Not really looking forward to this one, although

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 4: Thursdays are weird. Eagles on the road. I guess there

1719
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 4: was some player only meeting going on with them. Eagles

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: at g Men with Al Michaels, kirkurb Street, Kaylee r.

1721
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 3: Definitely a little trouble in paradise here, but I think

1722
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 3: the Eagles are just fine. Eagles minus seven and a half.

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01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 4: Boy six and a half under the old rules, you

1724
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 4: got it, new rules.

1725
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 3: Not so my friend.

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 4: London Sunday morning again they're a twiging him. There's a

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01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 4: team arriving today, Tottenham, Tottenham, not twigging. I'm sorry, tried

1728
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 4: to get out of there.

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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 3: They're staying where we stayed.

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the Broncos, the Denver Broncos. Broncos

1731
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 4: taking on the Jets, the windless Jets. Rich Eyes and

1732
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner. Sarah Walsh on the call. Sarah Walsh was

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: there this past Sunday Long Time in.

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01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 3: Loven Broncos minus seven minus seven and a half. There

1735
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: you go. There won one and one so far.

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01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 4: To the one o'clock Slate, Cardinals visiting Indianapolis games on

1737
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 4: Fox with Kevin Coogler, Moose and Alison Williams.

1738
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: Colts are one of the best teams in the league.

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01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 3: Colts minus seven and a half. Colts minus six and

1740
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: a half. I mean, I should be three in that

1741
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: right to see six and a half. Murray is not

1742
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 3: even playing. What's that is Kyler Murray not playing? I

1743
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: don't know.

1744
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 4: Crazy, g Men's fantasy league's going crazy because someone is

1745
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 4: training for quarterbacks to replace Kyler.

1746
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 3: So I don't know. All right, let's go.

1747
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: In the one o'clock Slate, Los Angeles The Chargers on

1748
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 4: the road visiting South Beach in the Miami Dolphins, Andrew Cataline,

1749
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: Charles Davis, Jason mccordy, aj.

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01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: Ross Chargers minus five. He's so disappointed in you. You

1751
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: disappoint him so badly. Don't worry, g man, we got

1752
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 3: a long way to go.

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01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: Charger's minus three and a half.

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 9: I don't know.

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess going across country maybe, huh. Okay, yeah,

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 4: I don't really have any answer for that one. Uh,

1757
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: Patriots in the big easy taking on the Saints. Patriots,

1758
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 4: will there be a letdown? Spirodidas Adam Marchalletta Addi.

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01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 3: Kinkawala Patriots minus three and a half, Right on it.

1760
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 3: Smile g Man, you.

1761
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 4: Know he got you gotta you gotta Tiger Woods fistmas.

1762
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 3: Can we get a g Man cammel is going on?

1763
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 4: That's that is something I've discussed as well, getting a

1764
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 4: camera for the entire group here and additional mic maybe

1765
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 4: in the new studio. Brown's visiting in the land that

1766
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 4: smells like hot dog water.

1767
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: You love your Pittsburgh peepie. You can't wait to get

1768
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: those as squealers. I don't. Maybe there's other people in

1769
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 3: this room that do, though not me. Steelers minus five and.

1770
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 4: A half, Steelers minus six and a half.

1771
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 3: Did that change today? He said? Yes.

1772
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 4: G Man's one who made the sheet man JJ watt

1773
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 4: Evan washburn Man. Looking forward to seeing our guys on Sunday.

1774
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 3: This is join us for pre That was the one

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01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 3: that comes on my notes. So, like I usually am

1776
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 3: pretty good with ours because the developing situation, well it's

1777
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: hurtful when by developing, I mean you are not off

1778
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 3: to a great start. This is tough. This is a

1779
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: tough scene right now.

1780
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: Okay, we continue with the one o'clock slate down on

1781
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 4: the road visiting Carolina, Adam Iman, Greg Olsen.

1782
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 3: Pam Oliver, Dallas minus three and a half. Right on it.

1783
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 3: There you go, welcome back. What are we? Three and four? Yeah?

1784
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 4: Next up the Jazz and he hangover from that big

1785
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 4: Monday night football win, Jags hosting the frisky Seattle Seahawks.

1786
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 4: Seahawks at Jags Chris Myers TBD because I was supposed

1787
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: to be Mark Schans, Sanchez and Christina Pink.

1788
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 3: I think because the Jags won on Monday Night, they're

1789
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 3: gonna be favored. I think the Seahawks should be favored.

1790
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go Jags minus one and a half.

1791
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: Right on it. Let's go four and four. We're back,

1792
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: g man, we're back three out of four. He exhales.

1793
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 3: He's so he's passionate, and I appreciate that.

1794
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 4: No, he's not rounding out the one o'clock I'm going

1795
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 4: down that road. Los Angeles, the Rams boy both LA

1796
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 4: teams visiting the East Coast, Rams at Ravens Burkhart, Brady

1797
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 4: Andrews Rinaldi. I think Fox has the early main game

1798
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 4: because they have MLB later in the day. But Rams

1799
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 4: visiting Baltimore.

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01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 3: This shouldn't be the main game. I don't even know

1801
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 3: what should be the main game of one o'clock. Honestly,

1802
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 3: Seahawks Jag should be the main game. It's not well.

1803
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: The Ravens are are garbage. Now Rams minus is it

1804
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 3: seven or is a ten? Is it seven or is

1805
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 3: a ten? Rams minus seven, Rams minus eight and a half.

1806
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: That's a big score.

1807
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 4: Baltimore, like Baltimore is not going to get that same

1808
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: effort twice. I'm just throwing it out there. They're terrible. Sunday,

1809
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 4: the four o'clock slate Titans at Raiders, Tennessee visiting Vegas.

1810
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 4: Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Megan o'leve. They get a break

1811
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 4: from our game and they get the Raiders.

1812
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 3: And the Titans Raiders minus four, Raiders minus four and

1813
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 3: a half. All right, five, five, gotta break through, Gotta

1814
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: break through, Gotta break through.

1815
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 4: Four clock Slate continues, Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins,

1816
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 4: Bengals and Joe Flacco visiting Green Bay. Joe Flacco's last

1817
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 4: NFL win the Green Bay.

1818
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 3: Packers green Bay minus fourteen minus fourteen and a half.

1819
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 3: That is a big score. That's a big score. I

1820
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 3: like the Bengals on that one.

1821
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: This is America's game of the work. Yes, this is

1822
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 4: Dan's romo. Tracy Wolfson Niners at Tampa Bay.

1823
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 3: I don't even know who's playing for the Niners at

1824
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: this point, doesn't matter.

1825
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: Bucks, It's like brock Purty practice today.

1826
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 3: Bucks minus.

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 4: Fo Box minus two and a half. Wow, a lot

1828
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:08,839
Speaker 4: of love to the Ninas.

1829
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming. I gotta go two into

1830
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: one here, two and one. You got three games to

1831
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: go all in prime time Sunday night football. Yeah, you'll

1832
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 3: wait up all day for this one. Leon's visiting Arrowhead

1833
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 3: and the Kansas City Chiefs Chiefs minus three, Chiefs minus

1834
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 3: two and a half.

1835
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 4: Gotta go one in one here. Hey, we're back to

1836
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 4: another double header on Monday night or simul cast that,

1837
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 4: simul sure whatever whatever this is that they like us

1838
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 4: the first one. Actually, both of them not too shit,

1839
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: not bad. Buffalo visiting Atlanta, Chris Fowler Orlowski, Riddick, Kate

1840
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 4: George Peter Scheger g Mannle make an appearance someone else

1841
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 4: in section one thirty two.

1842
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: Bills minus five Bill's minus four and a half. Let's go, baby,

1843
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: g man start celebrating six and oh so happy? Six

1844
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: and oh made the man happy? Yeah, all right, bears

1845
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 3: at commanders. Here's commis to wrap it up with commanders

1846
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: minus three and a half.

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01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 4: Well, luckily you got the first two right, commies minus

1848
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 4: four and a half.

1849
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 3: So far. I didn't miss a single one by more

1850
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: than a point, not a single one exactly. Wait, one

1851
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: of them, there was one.

1852
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 12: It was.

1853
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 3: Rams Ravens. Maybe I think yeah, I think so, all right,

1854
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 3: winning week. There we go six and oh six and

1855
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 3: oh not too shabby. But a few minutes. Yeah, well

1856
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 3: am I talking now for minutes? Yeah, there's no commercial.

1857
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: No, I can give you the brown I can give

1858
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 4: you the active A little bit about injury report, please

1859
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 4: do say it. Maybe if my phone cooperates.

1860
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'll do it for the Browns. Joel Buttonio not

1861
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: it was limited, not injury related rest, Malachi Corley Groin limited,

1862
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 3: Malik Collins not injury related rest limited, Grant Delpit full ankle,

1863
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett limited ankle Mike Hall limited knee, Shelby Harris

1864
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 3: DNP not injury related rest, but also knee. I don't

1865
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 3: know how you can how can you put that it's

1866
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 3: either not injury related rest or he's got knee injury.

1867
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 3: Katie Leviston limited with a calf, Craig Crusome limited with

1868
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 3: a hamstring, David Djoku full with knee, Ethan Posok limited neck,

1869
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: Denzel Ward limited with a hip injury. For the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1870
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 3: Calvin Austen does not practice. The wide receiver third leading

1871
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 3: receiver shoulder, Cam Haya limited not injury related rest, Alex

1872
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 3: Heismith limited so could be back. He's missed the last

1873
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: couple of games. Limited with an ankle. Joey Porter Junior full,

1874
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 3: so he should be making his return hamstring. Jalen Ramsey,

1875
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 3: though did not practice with the hamstring, something to keep

1876
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 3: an eye on. Ben Scronik limited with an illness, Darius

1877
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: Slay not injury related rest, did not practice, Jalen Warren

1878
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 3: will be back knee full, and t J Watt not

1879
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 3: injury related rest. Did not practice. So the ones that

1880
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 3: pay attention on their side would be Jalen Ramsey. That's

1881
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: a and Calvin Austen on our side, I don't think

1882
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 3: there's really much concern right now.

1883
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 4: Going to me, Shelby was the only one not out

1884
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 4: on the field when the when the session was open

1885
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 4: to the media.

1886
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I mean that's for week six

1887
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 3: so far. Not not too shabby. And for those of you.

1888
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 4: That are on backup quarterback watch for the for the

1889
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns from Daniel Oyafusi at ESPN. Local media not

1890
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 4: permitted to film qbs throwing to pass catchers during viewing period.

1891
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel was on one side of the field throwing

1892
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,799
Speaker 4: to starters and active roster players and individual drills like usual.

1893
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 4: Typically the backup QB has thrown alongside the starter. Shador

1894
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 4: and Bailey Zappi were on the other side of the

1895
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 4: field throwing to practice squad players like usual. One minute

1896
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 4: so the Brown's not tipping their hand in the portion

1897
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 4: of practice open to the media.

1898
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 3: All right, there you have it. Appreciated Gibbe, think Ben

1899
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: Baby for joining the program. G Man was perfect. JMX

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01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 3: did a great job turning that interview legends. Yeah, we

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01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: want to thank Christian Jones are tight end coach as

1902
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 3: well for joining the program for the first time. Enjoy

1903
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: these beautiful days while they last, Folks. ESPN Radio is

1904
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 3: up next. Thanks for listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Bally bet On eight to fifty, ESPN

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