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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to Turning Point. Tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback.

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Speaker 2: I have good news and I have some bad news.

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Speaker 2: The bad news is, unfortunately, even though lots of things

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Speaker 2: happened over the weekend, I am not with you right

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Speaker 2: now here in real time. I most likely am on

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Speaker 2: a plane back from Utah, where I spoke today at

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Speaker 2: one of our fantastic Turning Point USA Club America high

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Speaker 2: school campuses, which is awesome. I haven't done it yet,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure it will be awesome. But that being said,

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Speaker 2: despite all of the crazy things that happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to discuss it here

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Speaker 2: today right now.

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Speaker 1: But also I.

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Speaker 2: Think that gives us some good opportunity to get you

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Speaker 2: involved in the conversation. I would love to hear what

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Speaker 2: you have to say of all of the things that

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Speaker 2: happened over the weekend TPT at TPUSA dot com, and

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Speaker 2: you can participate in the conversation that will likely have tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I personally would like to focus on the media's coverage

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Speaker 2: of the Iranian situation, but I like to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the media covering it. What

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Speaker 2: do you think about the protests or lack thereof who's

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Speaker 2: celebrating who's not, What do you think of President Trump's decision?

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Speaker 2: All of those things are open to you to participate

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Speaker 2: tpt at tpusa dot com. The good news is we

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Speaker 2: have lots of footage to get to from America Fest,

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Speaker 2: so we're gonna get to some of those interviews now.

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Speaker 2: Some of the ones that I think we're gonna play

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Speaker 2: tonight are fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I do want to mention we have gotten a couple

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Speaker 2: emails about the noise. We've tried to pick some that

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Speaker 2: were the least noisy in the room. I know it

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Speaker 2: was not the most ideal situation to have the interviews,

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Speaker 2: but that's just the nature of events like this.

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Speaker 1: We were on media row.

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Speaker 2: We were smack dab in the middle of everything going on,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly where you want to be, but also

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Speaker 2: gets a little bit noisy sometimes. So we did try

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Speaker 2: to find some of the interviews where we're not a

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Speaker 2: ton of people were going around saying a bunch of

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Speaker 2: things being very very loud. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: that's just kind of the things that we got to

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Speaker 2: deal with. When we're in a situation like that, so

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Speaker 2: appreciate you tuning in. We will get to the full

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Speaker 2: around discussion tomorrow, which you can participate in by sending

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Speaker 2: all of your thoughts, and remember if your thoughts are

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Speaker 2: a gross, disgusting, vile and just down right nasty, it'll

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Speaker 2: actually fit in with what we do here on the show,

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Speaker 2: So feel free to send all of those TPT ATPUSA

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Speaker 2: dot com for right now. Please enjoy some of the

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Speaker 2: fantastic footage that we got from America Fest, not all

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Speaker 2: that long ago.

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Speaker 3: And I've learned this in combat. I've learned this in politics.

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Speaker 3: I've learned it everywhere. I will tell you, if we

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Speaker 3: were smart about this, we would just say, oh, did

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Speaker 3: you assault someone on stage octagon.

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Speaker 1: You know, right to the physical combat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna There is something transformative about first taking

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Speaker 3: on the responsibility of being a husband or a wife

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Speaker 3: and then taking on the responsibility of being a parent.

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Speaker 4: You just left it out, you know, it wasn't really

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Speaker 4: like a big part of like conversation or things that

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Speaker 4: you're dealing with sponsors. Essentially, you're just trying not to

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Speaker 4: offend anyone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay publicly, but like privately, do you have these

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Speaker 2: discussions with your your team? Did you have other drivers

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Speaker 2: Trump in Trump Force one, flying back and forth, speaking

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Speaker 2: of sleep, everybody on his team goes, okay, if you're

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Speaker 2: on his plane, you can't sleep because he doesn't sleep.

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Speaker 1: Did you experience that? And what was that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Nick fredis the man whose backyard I envy the most

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Speaker 2: on the internet, which is odd. Why do I know

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Speaker 2: what your backyard looks like? But honestly, God, that porch

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Speaker 2: is on How much do you think? How much can

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Speaker 2: you attribute your online video success to the view.

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Speaker 3: Between between the view and my backboard, smart alecky, coffee bugs,

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Speaker 1: I think that's ninety percent of my audience.

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Speaker 3: Like most people are here like where's your wife or

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Speaker 2: Like it's they don't care about me, dude. So okay,

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Speaker 2: yesterday I saw the clip of your speech.

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Speaker 1: Who was that kid?

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Speaker 2: Did you actually know that that wasn't actually your cousin?

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Speaker 2: You're my cousin is your cousin? Yeah, dude, I an

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Speaker 2: I am an excellent wingman.

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Speaker 3: I have an excellent wingman.

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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of thought it was like a random

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Speaker 2: guy that you said, Hey, tell this girl that you're

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Speaker 2: you can get a date out of it.

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Speaker 3: I should charge for that. No, yeah, no, that was

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Speaker 3: I did that too to my my business partner, Nick Hambilton.

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Speaker 3: We were I was speaking of convocation at Liberty University,

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, well, my business partner, Nick Campellon, does'tni

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody you single mix, Like, dude, you gotta let

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Speaker 3: me know before you're gonna do that so I can

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Speaker 3: like up my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Profra put yodoran On wear pants? Hey, what all of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm super curious about your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: Let me preface this by saying I don't typically like

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Speaker 2: getting into like the infighting stuff. I kind of think, well, dude,

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Speaker 2: Charlie's thing was like make jokes about the left, and

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Speaker 2: there's so much material there, and we all agree on

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Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the things anyway, there's no need

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Speaker 2: to like divide ourselves over the last five percent.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, my crusade as of late, and I

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Speaker 2: use that term affectionately, has been the right needs more conservatives. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in the sense of I'm not gonna name anybody in particular. Sure,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that talk a lot about

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Speaker 2: all the right things, not exactly evident in other components

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Speaker 2: of lifestyle. You're married, kids, own your home, business, all

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Speaker 2: all the things that you know generally come.

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Speaker 1: Out of living a conservative life lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why does it feel like that isn't necessarily enough

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Speaker 3: I joked around with somebody once, I said, Look, I

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Speaker 1: It's just they don't need a reason right.

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Speaker 3: We just like to fight where we're more individualistic with

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Speaker 1: We don't like to be told with the thought we're

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Speaker 2: And so I get all that, and I it's a gift, Like.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole thing and the most difficult thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But one of the reasons here's what I would

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Speaker 3: like some of the other people that are very very

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Speaker 3: that gets boring and old, really freaking quick. Republicans in

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Speaker 3: And the reason why, the reason why Charlie could build

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Speaker 3: There's so much more there for the long game because

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Speaker 3: other thing that's not healthy. If you want to have

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Speaker 3: sit down and have your little spat.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's where you're wrong. You gotta go

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Speaker 2: lamb bass them on Twitter, yeah, and then never talk

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Speaker 3: Tucker has taken some stances recently that I don't agree with.

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Speaker 3: I'm incredibly grateful for the work that Tucker has done

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Speaker 3: throughout his life. I feel like, on some level, to

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Speaker 3: is the way that we better understand one another? And

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Speaker 3: a series on our podcast called.

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Speaker 1: What should the Right Want?

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Speaker 3: So once again, not when we're fighting, we already know

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Speaker 3: all that what should we want? And we had people

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Speaker 3: because some people have just acted like Dick's on social

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Speaker 3: media right, part of my language. But you sit down

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Speaker 3: and you ask like, hey, dude, we've identified the problem.

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Speaker 3: What do you want? What should we want? What should

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Speaker 3: we be? And you listen to each of these people

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Speaker 3: like a ten percent difference.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree mostly on the same things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of those differences are still significant. But

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Speaker 3: I will tell you this, as I talked to a

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Speaker 3: the right, I could live in any country any one

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Speaker 3: I can't live in any country the wope designs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't live in any country that you know Islam designs. Right,

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Speaker 3: but I could live in the country as they would design.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, yeah, that's for me. Well, here's what

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Speaker 2: So it's super interesting because I was running races in California.

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Speaker 3: The beautiful thing about a citizen legislature is one when

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Speaker 3: Exactly right, you're cleaning toilets, and again you're not making

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Speaker 3: enough money to make this a lucrative job. You're expected

442
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Speaker 3: to have a real job. This is your term of service,

443
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Speaker 3: not your occupation. And so I think that's an incredibly

444
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Speaker 3: healthy way for us to look at our legislature overall.

445
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Speaker 3: Are the downsides to it? Yes, right, you have a

446
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Speaker 3: higher turnover rate, you don't have as many and some

447
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 3: people think that's always a good thing. It's not always

448
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Speaker 3: a good thing. It's usually a good thing. You know,

449
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Speaker 3: maybe you don't develop the same level of expertise that

450
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Speaker 3: you would in a particular field or whatnot. But that

451
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Speaker 3: just goes back to my opinion, which is that's because

452
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Speaker 3: the government shouldn't be doing as much as it's doing.

453
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Speaker 3: You actually have more humility when you realize that this

454
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Speaker 3: isn't your full time job and you're down there to

455
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Speaker 3: do a couple of important things and then get back

456
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Speaker 3: home and remember what real life is.

457
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, obviously, with different perspectives, conservatives liberals have

458
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Speaker 2: different perspectives on the outlook of well, what life is.

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Speaker 1: Soul.

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Speaker 2: Thomas Owl wrote a book called conflict divisions where he

461
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Speaker 2: talks about like the constrain versus the unconstrained, and you

462
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Speaker 2: can kind of translate that to the individual versus external

463
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Speaker 2: and the divide he kind of argues, is that people

464
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Speaker 2: just have differences of how they view the world. Yes, one,

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Speaker 2: do you think that those differences are compatible with each other?

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Speaker 1: Or can they be? And if not, what do you

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Speaker 1: do about that?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: Okay, once upon it time, Once upon a time, when

470
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Speaker 3: you look at the United States, its like, okay, we

471
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Speaker 3: all kind of recognize that we were founded on Christian

472
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Speaker 3: principles and that our system of government is built around

473
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Speaker 3: these kind of like these traditions that come from Christianity,

474
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Speaker 3: from English common law. From all of that, you have

475
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Speaker 3: this kind of shared understanding of what the government was

476
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Speaker 3: there to do when it was not there to do.

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Speaker 3: And why were you an American? Well, you want an opportunity.

478
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Speaker 3: You wanted political freedom so you could live your life,

479
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Speaker 3: not so the government can take care of you. So

480
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Speaker 3: when you have opposing views within that basicly, that fundamental framework,

481
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Speaker 3: there's plenty of room for disagreement, purful coexistence everything else.

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Speaker 3: The modern conception of leftism, there is no peaceful there's

483
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Speaker 3: no peaceful coexistence with that because they are not. I

484
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Speaker 3: am willing to let them be as liberal as they

485
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Speaker 3: want to be in their personal lives. In fact, if

486
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Speaker 3: every commune America wanted to get together, buy a bunch

487
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Speaker 3: of property and have a little commune, not only would

488
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Speaker 3: I not.

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Speaker 1: Bother them, I would try to lower their property taxes.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Do what you want, but it's not good enough for

492
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Speaker 3: them to have the freedom to live the way they want. No,

493
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Speaker 3: you must be forced to subsidize it. You must be

494
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Speaker 3: forced to participate, you must be forced to celebrate it,

495
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Speaker 3: or else there will be consequences. All right, Fine, Well,

496
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Speaker 3: I didn't create these conditions. You created these conditions, and

497
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Speaker 3: I refuse to live under the conditions you've created. And

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Speaker 3: this is the part where I go back to Look,

499
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Speaker 3: it wasn't just when Charlie was murdered that we realized

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Speaker 3: something to change. It was when we saw the left

501
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Speaker 3: react to it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Look, if I would have got shot somewhere, I know me,

504
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Speaker 3: I've seen me, I would have understood why somebody might

505
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Speaker 3: want to Charlie did everything within his power to try

506
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Speaker 3: to do peaceful resolution and conversation and discussion, and they

507
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Speaker 3: hated it because he was so good at it. He

508
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Speaker 3: was so good at it, and so I think we

509
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Speaker 3: need to understand. I don't want them to be conflict.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't want them to be civil war. I don't

511
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Speaker 3: want to be any of that, right, But I also

512
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Speaker 3: recognize that their worldview does not allow for peaceful coexistence

513
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Speaker 3: with me. That was their choice, not mine, But I'm

514
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Speaker 3: not submitting to it. You're obviously very good at making

515
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Speaker 3: a case in an argument.

516
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Speaker 2: As exemplified by your social media presence and ability to

517
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Speaker 2: connect with people.

518
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Speaker 1: Well, I read a lot of Thomas Souls. It's dense.

519
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Speaker 3: I love that guy.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean part of the problem with I mean

521
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Speaker 2: conservative politics just in general is if you're explaining you're losing,

522
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Speaker 2: that's kind of a political difficulty. But conservatism requires nuance always.

523
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Speaker 2: How is it possible to fix the messaging, to be

524
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Speaker 2: able to distill it down a little bit more because conservatives,

525
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Speaker 2: and I say, well Republicans is just in general, are

526
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Speaker 2: notoriously bad at messaging.

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Speaker 1: I even stupid shut.

528
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Speaker 2: Down thing that took forty days to explain why we

529
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Speaker 2: don't want to give subsidized healthcare. Right. How do you

530
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Speaker 2: think we bridge that gap from creator to you know,

531
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Speaker 2: actual elected official.

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Speaker 3: I think problem one of the problems that we have

533
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Speaker 3: right now is that we're expecting to be able to

534
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Speaker 3: accomplish things in an environment where it's not possible. And

535
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Speaker 3: so we think that if we just made a better argument,

536
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Speaker 3: that's what would change it.

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Speaker 1: And the problem is this, you have generation of.

538
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Speaker 3: Kids growing up in schools and educational institutions that have

539
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Speaker 3: been taught the left wing worldview, not only as one

540
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Speaker 3: of many world views, but as the moral worldview. And

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Speaker 3: so we're not just fighting an argument about fiscal pos

542
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Speaker 3: or the allocation of resources. We're fighting with people that

543
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Speaker 3: have been taught to believe we're evil. And sometimes you

544
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Speaker 3: got to break through that before you can even get

545
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Speaker 3: to that argument. But here's my question. Conservatives, like we

546
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: always talk about birth rates, right, there's no birthrate problem

547
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: in the conservative movement. The birthrate problem in the left.

548
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: Why because they abort their kids and then they know

549
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Speaker 3: transition them so they can't have kids, right, So they're losing.

550
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Speaker 1: So how do they keep staying ahead? They educate ours.

551
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Speaker 3: You want to win this thing in one generation, get married,

552
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Speaker 3: have kids, don't let the government educate them. And take

553
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Speaker 3: responsibility for the education upbringing in your child and within

554
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Speaker 3: one generation we win. Why because the operational environment in

555
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Speaker 3: which we are making our arguments is completely different from

556
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Speaker 3: what it is right now. If you let the left

557
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Speaker 3: craft the environment and then make a really good argument

558
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Speaker 3: in an environment where they think logic is a tool

559
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Speaker 3: of the patriarchy.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna lose and being on time right.

561
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Speaker 3: So I always tell people it's like, look, go have

562
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Speaker 3: your fights on it, don't go have your engage in

563
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Speaker 3: the political you know process, you have to we have

564
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Speaker 3: to write. We can't. We can't surrender it. But if

565
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Speaker 3: you're doing it at the expense of your relationship and

566
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Speaker 3: the education of your own children, you're creating your future.

567
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Speaker 1: Opponents by your neglect.

568
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Speaker 3: But if you invest that time, you know what I know,

569
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Speaker 3: here's what I achieved after all those years of homeschooling.

570
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Speaker 3: All of my kids love Jesus, know what they believe

571
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Speaker 3: and cannot stand.

572
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Speaker 1: Karl Marx right. Mission accomplished.

573
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Speaker 3: They're all pro life voters, they're all you know. So

574
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Speaker 3: let's create the electorate that we can convince with sound argumentation.

575
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Speaker 3: But let's not be surprised when it's impossible to convince

576
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Speaker 3: people that have been taught that argumentation is evil or bad.

577
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna outbreed them as well.

578
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing perfect and good news. Kids, turns out really

579
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Speaker 3: fun to make.

580
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fun, fun to make, fun to practice. Yeah.

581
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Speaker 2: So when went all it's it's yeah, yeah, the the well,

582
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Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of I'm curious and I don't

583
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Speaker 2: want to, you know, put too much of your process

584
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Speaker 2: out there. How much do you think about those videos

585
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Speaker 2: that you're recording with your coffee?

586
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Speaker 1: Do you go through a process.

587
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Speaker 2: Obviously you're probably past the point of having a script

588
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Speaker 2: if you ever did.

589
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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

590
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Speaker 1: I don't script those.

591
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't do well. Like the speech the

592
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Speaker 3: other day, I don't do well with written I can't

593
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Speaker 3: write out of speech. Yeah, if I write out of speech,

594
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: it just screws everything up. It's much more fun to

595
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Speaker 3: kind of go out there and know what you're gonna say,

596
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Speaker 3: pray about what you're gonna say, like ask God, like,

597
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Speaker 3: oh God, I'm gonna tell everyone I'm a Christian. So

598
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Speaker 3: if I blow this, it's gonna look bad on both

599
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: of us, right, So help me out here. That's more

600
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Speaker 3: fun talk about things that you know when you're passionate

601
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Speaker 3: about and you'll usually get it right when it comes

602
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: to like the short form content. Usually all it takes

603
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Speaker 3: is turning on the news or saying, like you said,

604
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Speaker 3: the left is so easy, so easy to mock. I

605
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Speaker 3: just did a reell this morning on there's this whole

606
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Speaker 3: movement in Germany now on you know those you know

607
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Speaker 3: those like fake horse shows where they're like using a

608
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Speaker 3: stick horse.

609
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Speaker 2: Yes, which some of them are pretty athletic too, by

610
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Speaker 2: the way, some of it it's scary and impressive at

611
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Speaker 2: the same.

612
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Well, now they have the same thing for

613
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: like having a dog, but there is no dog right

614
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: like you're running it through an obstacle course, but it

615
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: is no dog. And I'm looking at that going okay.

616
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: But when I understand why we don't let the Germans

617
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: have nukes but let them have dogs, I think I

618
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: have something right. So whenever you.

619
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Speaker 1: See a world wait till they get black people involved

620
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Speaker 1: in that. They're gonna lose all of those races.

621
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Speaker 3: So it just goes with like a lot of times,

622
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: it's easy enough of switching on the news. Also, when

623
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: you are married and when you are a parent, you

624
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: have plenty of content to work with, so a lot

625
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: of it is just kind of figuring something out and

626
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: then talking about a way you think it'll resonate with people.

627
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Speaker 1: Give me your input on this.

628
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Speaker 2: I feel like in the modern culture with some people

629
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Speaker 2: here very I'm motivating. I'm a motivational speaker. Here are

630
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: all the things you need to do. You need to

631
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: take geist cold showers, you need to run ninety miles

632
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: a day, wake up at four am, do all of

633
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Speaker 2: those things.

634
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Speaker 1: Not said that any of those things are.

635
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Speaker 2: Bad, but I think very quickly realized once we had

636
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: our first kid, it was like, Oh, all of that

637
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: stuff doesn't This is the motivator.

638
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Speaker 1: I don't like the formulas, Yeah.

639
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, well, and really like all of these whatever whatever

640
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: practices need to be put in place. You have a kid,

641
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: you don't need any of those. That's the motivation.

642
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: No, I think I think there's a real there's a

643
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: there's kind of a flippant joke that men civilize the

644
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: wilderness and then women civilize men, and then you have

645
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: kids and you realize this whole new level of tenderness

646
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: and care and concern. So No, I think you're absolutely right.

647
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: There is something transformative about first taking on the responsibility

648
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: of being a husband or a wife and then taking

649
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: on the responsibility of being a parent. And it does

650
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: like there's things, there's things physiologically that happened to you

651
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: during that process. But again, I think it's part of

652
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: God's creative order, right, These things happen for a reason,

653
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: and we respond in the ways that we're meant to

654
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: or a ree, But yeah, it's it's a never ending

655
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: source of motivation to want to be better for people

656
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: that you truly love. It goes back to what we

657
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: were saying earlier. It's what am I fighting for? When

658
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm married and I have kids, I don't question what

659
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm fighting for.

660
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Speaker 2: That was when I told Charlie we were having a

661
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: baby girl. Yeah, oh he just very prude. That radicalize you? Yeah,

662
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: I thought I was radical before. Oh yeah, oh my.

663
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: And that'sn't even counting my wife, who is far more radical.

664
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Speaker 1: People shouldn't be allowed to do things that I don't

665
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: want them to do. It is her stance on everything.

666
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: So I always joke that my wife is gonna be

667
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: the one that gets this demonetized. Like will we said,

668
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: we had somebody ask a question, like what does it

669
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: really mean to be non binary, and Tina's like, well,

670
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it means. It means you're feeling

671
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: fat that day. Demie Levado's you know, a woman and

672
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: then she's feeling fat and so she's made them and

673
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: then she loses weight and she's feeling like a woman again.

674
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: That's all it is. I'm like, I'm looking over her

675
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: like that's really funny. Baby, But uh, this.

676
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Is gonna get in some trouble.

677
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: I gosh, she's gonna go that's great.

678
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Dimi is probably one of the one of the more

679
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: fun transformations back and forth of hey, look, you don't

680
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: have to be like that, and also.

681
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: You'll be way happier.

682
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, but you no, You're you're gonna

683
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: said it better. You have the kids, and it's uh,

684
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: there's your motivation. And yeah, it's true about the little girl.

685
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: You what's crazy about a little girl is on one side,

686
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 3: you find out what a sap you are. You think

687
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: you're a tough dude, Yeah you have a little girl,

688
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: You're a sap. All of a sudden, you're wearing a

689
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: feather boa having a tea party, wearing a tiara.

690
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Right, that's one side and then on the other side.

691
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: You're freaking like radical extremists, so like I will kill

692
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: you and everything important to you if you touch my daughter. Yeah,

693
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: I just wish, you know, because obviously Governor Knews some

694
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: watches this entire podcast. All of my guns fell in

695
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: the lake. I hate it with Yeah, just it's continued.

696
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: I should stop bringing all my guns to the lake.

697
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: But you know, Sillyvie can't learn. But yeah, that's I've

698
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: no transition.

699
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: Into the like, No, Gavin, I still have my guns

700
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: and I'll give you my address. Yeah, that's great, good luck.

701
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: That's yeah. I always said, you keep saying we want

702
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: to prevent gun violence. Well here's a pro tip. Telling

703
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: a hundred million Americans we're coming for your guns not

704
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: a good way to prevent gun violence.

705
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: That's yeah.

706
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Speaker 2: I would happen to agree with that. Nick Fredis, thank

707
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: you so much for taking time.

708
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Love what you do. Looking forward

709
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: to the more time that you have now that.

710
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: You're exiting the legislature to be continually snarky on the internet.

711
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: Well no, think Well, thank you for what you do,

712
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: because again I love your humor. It's great. It's desperately needed.

713
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: I had this conversation with Brian Kallan. I was like,

714
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: I think the comics are gonna save the conservative.

715
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Movement trying to Yeah, because comedy is rooted in truth.

716
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: It's funny because it's true. Yeah, and if it's not true,

717
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: it's not funny.

718
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

719
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

720
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Speaker 1: Awesome, dude, thanks so much, thank you. I apredigate it.

721
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Speaker 1: Danica Patrick, how are you.

722
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Speaker 5: I'm good. I'm not nearly as busy as you, I'm sure,

723
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 5: but I'm good.

724
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: I think you're probably just as busy.

725
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: Ah.

726
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: No, this is my last work. I said.

727
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: Last year I had twenty minutes, so I thought I

728
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: had twenty minutes more work.

729
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 5: But it's a thirteen minutes this year.

730
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: So you twenty minutes on the main stage last year,

731
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: that's a lot.

732
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean thirteen minutes slightly.

733
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like five minutes segments at this point

734
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: because there's so many people here.

735
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many and there's so many great

736
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Speaker 4: people to year from.

737
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I.

738
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Speaker 4: Even thought that while the campaigning was going on for

739
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: the election, like they were like, you'd have five minutes

740
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: on stage, and I had to definitely think about what

741
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: the heck, I was gonna say for five minutes. So yeah,

742
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: I definitely had to think about twenty minutes, and I

743
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: think I lasted twenty two or twenty three, but I

744
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: definitely had to think about the thirteen as well.

745
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you've got the main stage.

746
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: You also want to say something impactful, You want to

747
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: say something meaningful, and it's an intimidating situation, so you're

748
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: really god.

749
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Say, the actual talent is trying to be able to

750
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 2: condense into time frame that you got, because you know,

751
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: if you mess up, it's not that bad. Only several

752
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: thousand people in millions watching online to see it, namite,

753
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: So you probably don't remember this. I think at the

754
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: inauguration we talked on the Oh wait, I guess I

755
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: haven't met you in real life before, so sorry that.

756
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: I no, I couldn't remember either, I feeling like I

757
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: hadn't met yours.

758
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: Well, this is one of these where's just everybody's everywhere

759
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: all the time, and you run into seven thousand people and.

760
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: You're get confused.

761
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: But I'd asked, you know you spent an entire career

762
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: turning left. What made you turn right? And then you said, well,

763
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: I've always kind of been right, So I'm curious, in

764
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: the world that you were in prior to coming out

765
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: as a conservative, what was.

766
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: That like, Well, within motorsports, but within sports in general,

767
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: there's an understood exclusion of the topics politics and religion,

768
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: Like they're just even when you go do appearances for

769
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 4: a company, it'll say like topics to avoid, and it'll

770
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: list it as politics and religion. So it's just something

771
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 4: that just wasn't mentioned.

772
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: And I think it.

773
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: Probably could be imagined that I'd lean conservative because of

774
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: the nature of the sport that I was in, and

775
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: especially NASCAR, right exactly. But I mean you just left

776
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 4: it out, you know. It wasn't really like a big

777
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: part of like conversation or things that you did or

778
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: talked about.

779
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 5: Just because it didn't.

780
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: When you're dealing with sponsors, essentially, you're just trying not

781
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: to offend anyone.

782
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: Yes, okay publicly, but like privately, do you have these

783
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: discussions with your with your team, did you have other drivers?

784
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: You don't need to out.

785
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 5: Any other drivers on the inside, everyone kind of knows

786
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: where you land.

787
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: Really yeah, And when people are like, oh, you know,

788
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: you came out a conservative or you campaign, it's like,

789
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: but like it probably was imaginable, right.

790
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well any surprise.

791
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: You don't have to out people specifically, but were there

792
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: surprising ones in the NASCAR world where you're like, wow,

793
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: you're a super lib didn't see that one coming, right,

794
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: It would.

795
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: Be much more shocking that someone was liberal than it

796
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: would be that they were conservative or Republicans. So yeah,

797
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: there probably are a couple that lean a little bit

798
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: more left like or and and I think like the

799
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: people that have lived in different in the countries that

800
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: are more that direction. Would it be a California or

801
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: New York or places like that, those are some of

802
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: the more liberal like beliefs or or or or left

803
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: leaning sort of sort of positions that they take. Yeah,

804
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: or maybe maybe call it open minded even And if

805
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, I'm I'm the kind of person that

806
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: thinks that the country should be run very conservatively and

807
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: I and I kind of live a little more liberally,

808
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: Like I definitely think that there should be a general choice.

809
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 5: And like the way that you want to live, I

810
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 5: don't really care.

811
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: I just don't want you to affect mine, Like because

812
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: of the way you live, don't tell me how to

813
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: live my life, and so, but I think that there

814
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: are definitely ways that I think it leads to maybe

815
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: a happier, more.

816
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: Peaceful, joyful life totally.

817
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: But it's not my It's not my place to tell

818
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: someone how to do that or what to believe. I

819
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: think the best way to do it is to live

820
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: by example, lead by example, and and and and want

821
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: people to want your life. They're like, how what is

822
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: it that makes you so happy? And then that's the

823
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: sort of thing that brings them to whatever their new

824
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: belief is or evolved belief.

825
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: So obviously you've come out as a consider you're all

826
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: over the conservative space. I've also seen you like at

827
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: the Miami F one or or all of the has

828
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: that happened, has has your political outside because obviously you don't.

829
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Talk about you know, Trump on you know them.

830
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: There's definitely no need to talk about it f one

831
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: And and I'm doing British I was doing British sky Sports,

832
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: which is England is extremely you know, much more liberal.

833
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: So but is that any impact is like like what

834
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: is that dynamic like now that?

835
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

836
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: I do, I think that if any place that where

837
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: my campaigning and where my political stance has shown up

838
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: is probably at F one is very.

839
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: Insightful for you to see.

840
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, and I don't know if it's all

841
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: true or not, but like if you read anything on

842
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: the internet about me, when I first started doing stuff

843
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: in F one five years ago, everyone was like, you're

844
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: the best, it's awesome.

845
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 5: I love what you have to say.

846
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: And then since all that, all the politics started, it's like,

847
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: you're horrible, get off air, you stuff, you don't know

848
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: what you're talking about. And so I think maybe that

849
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 4: could be a place where it showed up a little bit.

850
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 5: And I and I just.

851
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: Right right, and I got into some debates with people

852
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: at the track that work and that worked in uh,

853
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: that worked at the network that you know, don't believe

854
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: the same thing I do and uh, and so so

855
00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: that showed up.

856
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 5: That definitely showed up interesting.

857
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: So there's been there's a lot of commentary around athletes,

858
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: were people in any any professional sport, once they retire,

859
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of difficult, right, you go from this fast

860
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: paced life, no pun intended in your specific sport, fast

861
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: paced lifestyle, boom boom here they are all that and

862
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: then it's done.

863
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: How did you handle that?

864
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: What was that transition kind of into normalcy.

865
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, that's a good question as well.

866
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: I definitely had moments in that early retirement where I

867
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: felt like, this is the phrase I kept thinking in

868
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: my head, I need to do something with my life.

869
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: That's what I.

870
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: Just like finished doing the something life. People to be like,

871
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: you're done right, You're all good.

872
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: I felt like.

873
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: Like I was wasting time or a wasting opportunity or

874
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: saying something.

875
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 5: I felt like worthless in a way.

876
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: So I think going through that, yeah, that that speed

877
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 4: and pace and intensity and attention that I would get

878
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: on the main stage of racing to go away from

879
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: all that made me feel like I needed to quote

880
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: do something with my life.

881
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: And so how did you cope with that?

882
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: Like what are the kind of the practical things that

883
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: you did immediately after?

884
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 4: You usually had come in like these vases where I'd

885
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 4: like be moving along with things, and then all of

886
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: a sudden, I'd get that feeling and I'd be like,

887
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: I need to do something in my life, and then

888
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: I'd get on the phone. Because I always have had

889
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: projects going on, like I own a winery and NAPA

890
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: for a little while, I had a clothing line, speaking

891
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 4: engagements endorsements, television, hosting race broadcasts for races. So there's

892
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: always been stuff going on, but I wouldn't always be

893
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: pushing and didn't always need to, especially when I was

894
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: like working every week in at the race track, I

895
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: didn't need more to do, And so there that would

896
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: be the moment where I pick up the phone or

897
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: start texting and be like, what's going on?

898
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: What's the update? Why isn't it moving forward? What are

899
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: we doing here?

900
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: Like I would like go on an onslaught of text

901
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: in about an hour and like just get the ball

902
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: rolling in a bunch of ways, in a bunch of

903
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 4: ways to try and get things happening because I was

904
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: feeling because I was feeling restless.

905
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: So like, as a business person, are you kind of

906
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: the pusher that just go, go, go, go go.

907
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: Mean, I think that that happens at times, but it's

908
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: really important that you have people that work with you,

909
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: that our self starters, that know how to do that

910
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: on their own, that you don't have to call and

911
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: be like.

912
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: What's the update?

913
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that you don't have to repeat yourself over

914
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: and over again. So no, I have good people, but

915
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 4: but you know, you can't push that like it'd be

916
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: a matter of yeah, I've definitely been on this, but

917
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: let me ask again. So yeah, I mean it's it's

918
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: but like business is, this can be very slow. However,

919
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: a lesson that I think I've learned in in business

920
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: and in opportunities and in purpose is that when you're

921
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: doing something that is meant for you, right, because I'm

922
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: caveating it with meant for you versus what you want

923
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: to do, because sometimes what you think you want to

924
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: do might not be what's meant for you. Yes, it

925
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: moves really fast when it's meant for you. So like

926
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: politics was one of those where as soon as it

927
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: was what I interviewed RFK at the F one race

928
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: two years ago at the end of twenty three, and

929
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: so I had met him. Then I went to and

930
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: then Amfest came in December, so that was November F

931
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: one race in Vegas. December was Amfest first political event

932
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: I ever went to. And then I had met Tucker

933
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: finally in person, and I didn't even know that Charlie

934
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: had noticed I was here, but I went and did

935
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: Tucker's show I think January third, I flew to Florida

936
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: and did his show.

937
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 5: And then Charlie had reached out and said, I didn't

938
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 5: want to bother you. I saw you came to Amfest.

939
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 4: I'm so excited, love to have you on my show

940
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: if you have time, and I was like great. So

941
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, a couple of days later,

942
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: I'm doing Charlie's show and sitting with him in studio

943
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: here in town. And then I was like, I think

944
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: I made a post that was like and all of

945
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: a sudden, I'm in politics, and so it like just

946
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: happened like that. And then it was like, you know,

947
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: I mean, rfk's team was asking me to run.

948
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 5: For office for something.

949
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: I've spoken to his manager Amaryllis about it. And then

950
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: and then Tulsi, I had met because of Amfest in

951
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: twenty three. I messaged her and said, you did an

952
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: amazing job. Saw that she already had followed me, and

953
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 4: so I was like wow. So then we became friends.

954
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: Interviewed her in February about her book, and then it

955
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: just kept going. I kept I was getting asked to

956
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: do to moderate events, and so I moderated for Tulsi

957
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: and Bobby at an event. Then I got invited to

958
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: moderate for JD and in North Carolina at an event,

959
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: and then Tulsi asked me to go along for the whole.

960
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: Last week, Laura had asked me to do a bunch

961
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: of women for Trump events. So like, it went so

962
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: fast and all of a sudden, I'm sitting next to

963
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sitting right next to Donald Trump on

964
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: Trump Force one on the way home from the very

965
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: last rally in Michigan.

966
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: For like two hours, I'm like, how did I get here?

967
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 5: How did I earn this seat?

968
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but it went so fast, and

969
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 4: and there's been so much reflection from people just about this,

970
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: you know, arena of politics that I should get involved in.

971
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: And that's not something I would have seen for myself.

972
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: So somebody other people were seeing things. So maybe this

973
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: is something right that's meant for me. Yeah, man, it

974
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: went fast.

975
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: Well, I remember because I'd been involved a turning point

976
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: for quite a while at that point. I remember seeing

977
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: Charlie's episode and going, Danni, Ka Patrick.

978
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: The race.

979
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: What is? But but then yeah, it happens quickly, it is. Yeah,

980
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: I like that maybe meant you know.

981
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 4: Have you had that happen for you in your life

982
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: in any way where it's just like all of a sudden,

983
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: like it could be you meet somebody that you fall

984
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: in love with, right, it could be a job, it

985
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: could be anything.

986
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, similar trajectory on this cool thing because

987
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: I was I was. I was a consultant for a

988
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: while and I was running races and then decided to

989
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: build a studio in my garage.

990
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: One thing led to another, ended up at turning.

991
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: Point, ended up at an event the ylb Les the

992
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: Young Women's Leadership Summit in twenty two and was at

993
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: the height of Matt Walsh's What Is a Woman? And

994
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: so Matt and Charlie were supposed to headline that event.

995
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: Matt was giving a speech somewhere like two hours before that,

996
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: and it's impossible for you to get there on time,

997
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: and so twenty five hundred people in the audience, Charlie says, hey,

998
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: you're a comedian, right, I go, yeah, can you go

999
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: on stage and kill twenty minutes? And then from there

1000
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: when on tour with Charlie, been on that for the

1001
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: last three years, So yeah, it was. It was a

1002
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: very similar type thing that just kind of happened.

1003
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: It wasn't Charlie the best at seeing people too? Write,

1004
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: I feel like we had such a skill and talent

1005
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: for being able to be able to sort of suss

1006
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 4: out your potential before you knew it.

1007
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I've said often he believed in me way more

1008
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: than I believed in myself. I just and he also recognized.

1009
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: So I've been to a couple of Charlie events. Funny dude.

1010
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: He can be funny and he can make funny jokes.

1011
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: One of the problems I think was he was such

1012
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: a serious political commentator people weren't ready to laugh, and

1013
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: so he'd make a joke and just go right over

1014
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: people's heads.

1015
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: And is also fairly dry, Like his delivery was so

1016
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: matter of factly and so dry that it was like

1017
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: the sarcasm or dryness was kind of like, wait a minute,

1018
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 4: are we supposed to laugh? Is that funny? Or are

1019
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 4: you trying to make a point? Are you being mean

1020
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: about this?

1021
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: Even right?

1022
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: Like he made a joke. He made a joke one

1023
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: time at an event.

1024
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: This is prior to me going on the road with him,

1025
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: where he said, yeah, if you're gay in Gaza, they'll

1026
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: give you a flying lesson off the nearest roof objectively

1027
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: funny joke. Like he is very very funny. Nobody laughed

1028
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: because they weren't expecting him to be funny, and so

1029
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: I think his insight was, like, Hey, if I bring

1030
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: this guy on the road with me, I do a

1031
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: couple jokes, mostly certain top a little bit, loosen him

1032
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: up a bit bit that that kind of helps the

1033
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: whole event be more loose and it creates more dialogue

1034
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: and people will laugh when things are funny.

1035
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: It does it's opposed to being still rigid.

1036
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: Bringing a little bit of humor in it is also

1037
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: I think humor is also a little bit of like humility, right,

1038
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: Like we're kind of poking fun, playing with things, and

1039
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: it allows everyone to soften up and not have to

1040
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 4: be so buttoned up perfect say the right thing. It's

1041
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: not like that, it's it's it's It should be softer

1042
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: than that. It should be a little bit more free

1043
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: than that. And I think humor brings in a lot

1044
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: of humility to people.

1045
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Try to, yeah, try to try to make it work

1046
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I know we're gonna run to here.

1047
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: But you talked about being on the on the road

1048
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: with Trump in Trump Force one, flying back.

1049
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: And forth, speaking of sleep.

1050
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Everybody on his team goes Okay, if you're on his plane,

1051
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: you can't sleep because he doesn't sleep.

1052
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: No, did you experience that? And what was that?

1053
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: Like, it's exactly right.

1054
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 4: We landed back in West Palm at like five thirty

1055
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 4: or five forty five in the morning, in.

1056
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: The morning, and nobody had slept.

1057
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: Well, we didn't get to the last rally until midnight.

1058
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: This is twenty twenty four.

1059
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 5: This was the November of last year.

1060
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so like a little over

1061
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: a year ago before the election.

1062
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: And then what so now that the early morning news

1063
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: shows are on election, do you go do news immediately?

1064
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: There isn't much more you can do once that day

1065
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: of arrives, like people are off to the polls or

1066
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: have already voted for the most part.

1067
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 5: But no, it's no.

1068
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: I think I slept for two or three hours and

1069
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: then it was election and then probably went about Oh

1070
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: I think I slept for I had like an eight

1071
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: am flight out of West Palm home to Phoenix, and

1072
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I slept for forty five minutes that

1073
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: night after election, like election night.

1074
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: And at that point do you even get to enjoy

1075
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: the win? Or are you just so dead tired?

1076
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: But we're all standing in that huge arena when you

1077
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: saw where you know, Milania and Trump came in and

1078
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: the whole family, and like that's the room that we

1079
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: were all in. And like when it's all going down

1080
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: and you're seeing the states go red, like once the

1081
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: third or so, you know, when Pennsylvania goes red, you're like.

1082
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh my god.

1083
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: I so so no, it's a total elation, like you're like,

1084
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: holy crap, it's and you know, you get a taste

1085
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 4: of like what that's like as an athlete or being

1086
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: even around an athlete in a in a close way,

1087
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 4: is that.

1088
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: You know how much goes into it.

1089
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: You know how much goes into it, and so when

1090
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: it just misses, you're like not sure you've got it

1091
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: in you to do it again, because it's so much

1092
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: you've done. You've literally done everything you could possibly do.

1093
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: And so when it does go right, it's like, also

1094
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 4: it's like such a relief, Oh my god, we did

1095
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 4: it right, Like wow, like it it could have gone

1096
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: the other way and and and so you know, it's

1097
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Speaker 4: it's no, it's totally still appreciated moment, and you know,

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Speaker 4: but I was really bummed I didn't get to go

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Speaker 4: to mar A Lago.

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Speaker 5: That was the only thing I was really bummed about.

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Speaker 5: When I was there, I was like, how am I

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Speaker 5: not in mar A Lago right now? Are poor me?

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Speaker 5: As if I deserve that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: I didn't just sit next to him from three to

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Speaker 4: five am flying home like not sleeping.

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Speaker 5: Get over yourself.

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Speaker 2: That's great, Dandy Patrick, thank you so much. Really appreciate

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Speaker 2: it and enjoyed the conversation. Good to see what Good

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Speaker 2: to see you too. I hope you had a great

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Speaker 2: time watching those interviews. And like I said, I wish

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Speaker 2: I could be here with you in real time tonight

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Speaker 2: because I know a ton of things happened over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: But remember, you can comment on any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: TPT at tpusa dot com is the email address if

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Speaker 2: you'd like to participate in the conversation that will happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'd love your thoughts, love your emails, Love what you

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Speaker 2: think of what's going on, what you think of President

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Speaker 2: Trump's decision, what you think about all the different political

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Speaker 2: factions going crazy. Any of those thoughts are more than welcome.

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Speaker 2: TPT at TPUSA dot com. We will see it tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: same time, same place. God bless them, don't