1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Weekly Zgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: the Weekly Sitgeist. Please welcome Mr Blake Wexler. Hey everybody, 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: this is Blake Wexler A k A. I smell Wexen 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: kays here Joe Wells lounge in in Jack's chair, Wise 8 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Blake cast in mischievous Stair's INSIGHT's direction. Miles, this surely 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: is a dream. Yeah, on the top of the zone, doesn't. 10 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: You're throwing a random dig it Big, there's a digg 11 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: itt and there. I didn't want to take that many 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: liberties and for me, I don't have a confidence for 13 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: a digt. But yeah, Marcy took a dig for sure. 14 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Was marcy playground story? We know? A great question, like 15 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: was that like a playground they played at? I know, 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: like I remember going up the rumor Lincoln Park was 17 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: called Lincoln Park because they wanted to be near Limp 18 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Biscuit when you were like at Tower Records. I don't 19 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: even know if that's true. This was in the era 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of all of the bad rumors that were word of mouth. 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: I think Marcy Playground wanted to be near Macy Gray. 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: I think is why they did it. So do you 23 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: guys with the Wikipedia answer didn't want to keep just there? 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I guess. Okay. The band is named after the Marcy 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Open Grade School in Minneapolis, which is the alternative school 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: John Wasniak attended. Oh okay, so it's relave, yeah, said 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: he chose a name because many of his songs were 28 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: inspired by his childhood. So there you go. There's some 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: depth there that I didn't see coming. I like that, right, Blake, 30 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: what's new? What's so? How how you been since the 31 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: last time, since last we spoke, Since last things have 32 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: been so so so good, and now since watching your hiccups, 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: I honestly have It's weird because I Joel was very 34 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: uh sweet and said and said what I do feel 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: in my heart. But I also do see it as 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: a disadvantage for you and a way for me to 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: assert dominance in a conversation. So everything I say, you're like, 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: WHOA really? That sounded smart? Folks. You gotta leave this guy. 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: He's the host, you know, Like how a good guest 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: tries to do cert dominance. This every time it's like, 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wish I could take this. What the 42 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: point you're trying to make about Kangi Brown Jackson, you know, 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: like have it connect? But it just sounds so jokey 44 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: with your cartoon hiccup. Also, I wasn't listening. We're good, 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: So we're good. No, I think we've made it. I 46 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: think we've crossed the rubicon into non diaphragm local bulls spasms. Bill. Okay, 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: both terms are like kind of jarring, where hiccup is 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: a very jarring term to hear like audibly, and then 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: diaphragm spasms also gives you like like kind of makes 50 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: you recoil when you hear. You know, they're like a 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: little over the top. Yeah, diaphragm spasm does feel like 52 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: like some kind of like you're you're on your way 53 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: to death, like if you're like and then they had 54 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: the diaphragm spasms. It was really bad. That's like right 55 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: before the death rattle. Is exactly first you cough really 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: quietly into a white handkerchief and there's a little blood, 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: and then the next step is he's got the diaphragm spasms. Yeah, 58 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: where's your handkerchief that you usually carry around with you, 59 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: my little blood handkerchief, like your blood shift. There was 60 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: a tweet I forget like maybe a year ago that 61 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: someone wrote that was just so funny about how how 62 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: gentle people are with that cough into the white handkerchief 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: in the film, it's like just so light. And then 64 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's slow reveal of like, oh it's tuberculosis. 65 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Got the burks, You got the burks, You got the burks, 66 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Fan Joel, You're right. The slow reveal makes it because 67 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: if it was the other like yeah, movie, but this 68 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: way you're like, oh no, oh no, it's just a 69 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: cough and now now they're gonna die tragedy. Yeah, they're 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: just like where they're going up is flight is their 71 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: look are you okay, mama, I'm fine. You go ahead, 72 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: you go ahead. They wipe with their mouth insert shot, 73 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: bloody handkerchief. Papa's in trouble anyway, let's tell that. You 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: know more to say on this. Also with the handkerchief thing, 75 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: it is funny that they do tuck it away, you know, 76 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: where they don't tell anyone. They're like, oh no, no no, 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm fine. No, one's alright, I'm bleeding out of my mouth. 78 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm black, guys, I'm bleeding. I'm bleeding. When nobody ever 79 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: draws attention to right, no one's like, oh my god, 80 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: is this bad? Look? Look momm am, my contagious? Should 81 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: I not be around the children? It really should be 82 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: their first ti better soldier on valiantly make everyone else 83 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: in my house sick. Right, It's like, well, I don't 84 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: want to look vulnerable because then I'll be a nuisance. 85 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I'll just endanger everyone else. That's really wonderful. No, I 86 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: do want to keep talking about that, because you wouldn't 87 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: just have a bloody cough out loud, scaring everybody coughing 88 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: all over like the white table cloths. People would be 89 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: because I guess is that like the earliest version of 90 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: hiding your zombie bite? I mean, do you think about it, 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: like the whole vami purism, Like the entire genre comes 92 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: from the Victorian error where we're doing with a lot 93 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: of new diseases and a lot of death happening, and 94 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: so yeah, it makes sense to me that like, out 95 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: of the horror genre, what comes after vampires is typically 96 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: zombies and and yeah, you know they were trying to 97 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: hide the chickness. We still had to go to work, 98 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and there was no social help at that time, mutual 99 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: aid to come in and end up lift your family. 100 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Oh you got sick. Sorry, your family's on the street. 101 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: You gotta just deal with that. It's just like, oh, 102 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: you're sick. Oh what do you? You're sick? You're sick. 103 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: You're sick. Is not chosen him? Yeah, that's the devil 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: got in him? So sorry. I'll just say this. It's 105 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: all about preventative care. If if you're coughing blood check, 106 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: speak to a doctor. And that's not medical advice. That's 107 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: just me watching a lot of movies and being like, 108 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: if they's both to the doctor, this movie would be 109 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: less interesting. But anyway, let's talk about what is always 110 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: a red handkerchief too, you know? Or never red? Usually white? 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: It would be funny if it was red. And it's like, guys, am, 112 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: I is there blood on this? I can't say is 113 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: it blood or is it you're rubbing on something white 114 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: and see if the red comes off? Yeah yeah, rub 115 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: them together, oh yeah. And then that's an added ten 116 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: minute scene of everybody arguing the best way to determine 117 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: whether or not the red handkerchief doesn't in fact have 118 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: blood on it. Jessica, we gotta ask you, what is 119 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: something from your search history that's feeling about who you are? Oh, 120 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: search history, So we'll just dive right in. I recently 121 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: was searching the term excited delirium, which is uh, something 122 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: I've been wondering about and thinking about a lot lately 123 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: because it is a made up diagnosis that has been taught. 124 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: So I live in Minneapolis, and obviously there's been a 125 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: lot going on in Minneapolis the last few years, and 126 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: excited delirium is a is a made up diagnosis that 127 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: has been taught to the Minneapolis police by one of 128 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: our health systems. And the idea of excited delirium is 129 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that so this is a diagnosis that is not recognized 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: by the American Medical Association. But what the idea is 131 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: that you can become so worked up and so agitated 132 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: that your body you go into lactic acidosis. Your body 133 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: becomes like highly acidic, and it can be fatal. And 134 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: so police are taught that excited delirium is something that 135 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: they should be looking out for when they're interacting with 136 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: the community, interacting with citizens. But what happens is that 137 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: because they are taught this diagnosis. When they see someone 138 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: really agitated, they think excited delirium. I have to restrain 139 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: this person. This is dangerous and then the restraint itself 140 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: can be a complication that leads to death. And this 141 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: is used much more against African American men restraint and 142 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: the diagnosis of excited delirium. And so I've been, you know, 143 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: sort of trying to research it, figuring out what's going 144 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: on right now with the Minneapolis police being taught this. 145 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: They were we were told that they weren't, that they 146 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: had stopped teaching excited delirium, but then recently it came 147 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: out that they this health system was actually still teaching 148 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: people about excited delirium. They had just renamed it agitated 149 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: delirium um so to kind of get around the ban 150 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: on teaching this. So is that more of a way 151 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: to justify like more aggressive ways of restraining people or 152 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: is it are are they trying to like preempt some 153 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: kind of like liability if someone is act put potentially, 154 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: like what's the logic from the law enforcement side of 155 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: even bothering to like just like distribute this information to 156 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: their officers, Right, So they a lot of them have 157 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: been taught that, like this has been information that's been 158 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: passed down for years, that this is a real thing 159 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: that they need to be worried about, and that it's 160 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: like it's a danger Like if someone is experience is 161 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: showing extreme agitation, it's dangerous to their own lives. So 162 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: in the officer's mind, they are thinking, I need to 163 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: restrain this person, get them under control so that they 164 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: don't go into lactic acidosis. And is that common, like 165 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: people dying from lactic acidosis. I mean it can happen, 166 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: like with marathon runners. It can happen with like extreme exertion. 167 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: But the doctors I've talked to have said, like, you 168 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: can't tell if someone has a high acid content in 169 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: their blood just from looking at them from even a 170 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: doctor can't tell that. That's That's the thing that it's amazing, 171 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: how because you know, the first when I first heard 172 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: you say this and you said they were teaching you know, 173 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: the cops this basically, the first thing that I thought 174 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: of was, Oh, this is just another targeting thing. They're 175 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: going to use this to target black people, people of color, 176 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: less fortunate people. They're gonna marginalize people. This is a 177 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: targeting tool, right. And it's amazing how many professions that 178 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: they will give cops to give them the right to 179 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: hurt people. You ain't a fucking doctor. What the hell 180 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: you like? How can you dying? Oh? Oh? That person 181 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: right there has excited delirium, which I just learned about 182 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I can get the like what what? 183 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: It makes no sense, but it is not surprising because 184 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: they will talk about or give credence to anything if 185 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: it can lead to the ability to target marginalized and 186 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: oppressed individuals and groups. And it's very disappointing. And there's 187 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: this also this element to it where you're like, the 188 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: thing we see with law enforcement is they're constantly taught 189 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: all these ways to put things in your subconscious that 190 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: a person you're talking to is about to kill you 191 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: or as an immediate threat. Whether that's like the warrior 192 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: mentality warrior approach of law enforcement officers that we see 193 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: being taught, which is like, you're not there to serve 194 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and protect, You're there to fun people up in case 195 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: they get out of line, and you always have to 196 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: be on your guard because you are a warrior and 197 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: now you're only facing enemy combatants out in the field 198 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: or whatever, that this seems like another way, a very 199 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: insidious way to just almost use someone's sense of help 200 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: being somebody to justify get like you're saying, that keeps 201 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: like turning the turning, flipping the switch to like violent, 202 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: a violent interaction totally. And then the you know, the 203 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: sort of horrible irony of it is that then if 204 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: someone does die in police custody, well it was excited delirium, right, 205 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that is then used as an excuse. It's using it 206 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: as an excuse both to restrain or to inject someone 207 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: with ketamine in the case you know, in many this 208 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: is something that has happened a lot in Minneapolis, inject 209 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: someone with ketamine and then if the person you know 210 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: dies in police custody, then it can be blamed on 211 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: this made up diagnosis of that's I've never I've never 212 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: heard of this until you just said it, and it's, um, 213 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: it's a very interesting thing that, uh, there are so 214 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: many terms that the people who are you know, tasked 215 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: with protecting and serving us, as you know, the little 216 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: bumper stick or they put on their vehicles saying, is 217 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: that there are so many times that they don't let 218 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: us know about right, you know, they can do all 219 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: these things. And then after the fact, we're like, well, 220 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: there's this thing called excited delirium that we you know, 221 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: we look for. It was just like, what like, why 222 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: not why not bring that out? Why not be if 223 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: that's something that you're really looking for, then that should 224 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: be you know, bullet point one, two three, These are 225 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: the things that public should know, and they're not. I mean, 226 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: the public does know, I guess because you know and 227 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: you've searched it, but it's not readily available, like you know, 228 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: most of us are never and it's not like you 229 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: need a p s A for you know, the excited 230 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: delirium because it's such a problem. But yet again, it 231 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: just throw it on the pile of you know, racist 232 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: medical myths that we've used over the years to you know, 233 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: whether it's prohibiting drugs or not giving proper medical care 234 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: to people of color. Just so many, so many ways 235 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: to trick your brain to just continue down the path 236 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: of just discriminating or treating people a certain way. Johnnah, 237 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: what's something you think is overrated? Overrated? Would be getting 238 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: married in your twenties. I recently got married in my 239 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: thirties and I gotta say, the gifts you get way better. 240 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: I remember giving people wedding gifts back in the day 241 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties and my normal friends 242 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: we're getting married, I'd give him. I'd go to like Goodwill, 243 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: get a bunch of plates, you know, anything I could 244 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: find there. I got my one of my best friends 245 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: a trophy for his wedding, and like, I'm sure, what 246 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: good did that ever do? But now my friends and 247 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: family have upgraded my kitchen. It's just like I've been 248 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: doing all the master class chefs things now with all 249 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: my new knives, good cook wear. I just drank some 250 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: espresso from my little, big virtual thing it is. I 251 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: gotta say, Miles just got married, what's the best gift 252 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: you got? Oh? Ship? The best thing you know? Honestly, 253 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: it's a set of cutting boys. I really wanted good 254 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: fucking cutting boards. I had the same fucked up like 255 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: wood block from my key. I've been rocking around for 256 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: ages and I just can't really do work. And I 257 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: saw this ship. These like cool like post consumer made 258 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: pressed board like things that you could put in a 259 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: dishwasher fucking anything. It was a super strong I have 260 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: like five different sizes see, and you know I'm wuck 261 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: with it because I'm already like and I got my 262 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: cutting boards and that's and I think that is the difference, right, 263 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: because I totally feel you, Johnno, on the point of 264 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: Like in my twenties, half the time I was like, Yo, 265 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: my fucker, I'm broken ship. I'm here okay, Like y'all 266 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: had a destination wedding and I'm here, okay, I got 267 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: I'll hook you up with some weed when we get 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: back down. Me wearing a suit is the gift right exactly, 269 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Or like or going in with my friends being like, okay, 270 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: we'll go to make seas where the registry is that 271 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: and we'll each buy one of the hand towels, but 272 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: we'll put them. We'll put both together from both of us, 273 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: so it looks like at least they got the whole set, 274 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: but it's from two of us. There you go. But 275 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: now I think as you get older, your actual imagination 276 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: for the kind of ship that you want expands because 277 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: you you're living a little more. If I got married 278 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: in my twenties, I would have asked for a volcano vaporizer. 279 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm serious, that's all. I wouldn't like that's it. I 280 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: don't need anything else. I'm like, I have plastic plates 281 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: and ship I don't now I got nice drinking glasses. 282 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: You know what's what was the nicest thing for you? 283 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean the thing I was most excited about was 284 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: these knives that got the boost top classic set. I mean, 285 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I cut my fingers so deep when I cut. Now 286 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, unless you're getting yourself elaceration, you don't 287 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: have good enough knives. You're just getting a surface cut. 288 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I got to find a friend to 289 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: like going on a scheme and be like, girl, we 290 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: gotta get married, and then we'll just divide the gifts 291 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: afterwards and go our separate ways. We'll have to tell 292 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: an buddy. But I could use a kitchen upgrade, is all, man? 293 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: You could You could really scamp some people. Just just 294 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: give yourself a fake destination wedding and like invite everyone 295 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: you know and just say like, if you can't make it, 296 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: here's our registry. It's fine, and then just go to 297 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: journey to the venue. But no pressure. Obviously most people 298 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: can come. But aside from the gifts, do you think 299 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: there's any advantages to getting married in your thirties aside 300 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: from your twenties. Yeah, I mean, like you just know 301 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: you're not you know who you are, and everyone else 302 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: in their twenties is still figuring it out, so like 303 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can like have a better starting point 304 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: for your relationship where you're not just like yeah, but 305 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean like do you know how you how you 306 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: do the chores? Do you know how you process your emotions? 307 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: All that stuff? Is Like He's like, Okay, I have 308 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: a better starting place. I'm not like in the wilderness 309 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: with like my own ship right before before my wife first, 310 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: her husband, spouse at any point has to figure it 311 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: out for me, right, Yeah, I mean still you know, 312 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: I still we all we're all growing still to this day. 313 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: But of course it is it is easier. I would 314 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: be an absolute mess if I got married ten years ago. 315 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would have. I mean we would have 316 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: probably got We probably would have split up before the 317 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: wedding because we would have fought about gifts on the 318 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: red right, Like I would have been so juvenile and 319 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: adolescent about it, Like I probably would have like crossed 320 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: a bridge by saying something stupid and like the fight, 321 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: like why do we even need that? Like you can't 322 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: even cook. I don't even act like getting this news 323 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna fix that. I need the cutting boards. Then I 324 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: would have found my ask my mom again. She's like, oh, 325 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: you're moving back in. I'm like, yeah, Mom, she doesn't 326 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: even get it. But yeah, I don't know. I think 327 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: there there is there is something a little bit more advantageous. 328 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I guess you do, know yourself. That's what I'm always 329 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: blown away by people who are like high school sweethearts. 330 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all really made it through, like you're fucking 331 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: late twenties for real. That's crazy, especially now because like 332 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: my grandma did that when she was nineteen. She like 333 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: snuck out her window and eloped to the boy who's 334 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: her next door neighbor. And they met in like first 335 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: or second grade, and they like stuck back into their 336 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: windows at the end, like their separate windows at the 337 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: end of the night, and didn't tell anybody for like 338 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: a week or two. But you know, like divorce nearly 339 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: unheard of, you know what I mean, Like you know, like, 340 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: well we did it so and everyone had like stress, 341 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: brad stress based chronic illness, different errors right now for sure. 342 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: That's so romantic though, Damn you over here, like she 343 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: eloped with the neighbor boy. I'm like, what is this 344 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: some fucking Disney stuff. That's and that's the other thing. 345 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: It's always like cute. There's never they're like, man, it 346 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: was fucked up and we just toughed it out together. 347 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: Like typically it's like they're exceptional relationships. Were like I 348 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: was in love with him since third grade. Yeah, yeah, 349 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't see the struggles after that though. 350 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: That's things like that's the Warmer movie version of it 351 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: was like where they won the war. And then also 352 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: they had to deal with a bunch of PTSD afterwards, 353 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: right exactly. And they just raised a family, no problems, 354 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: no problems at all. He sorted it out from elementary school, 355 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: did that too. When she was in second grade, she 356 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: picked out a kid and she was like, I'm gonna 357 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: marry that kid, and then she did. They still they 358 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: got married when she was twenty. She was having her 359 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: first baby, like a couple of days after her twenty 360 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: first birthday. Just nuts four kids now. Secret aside from 361 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: just being more afraid of being alone than being together forever, 362 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: what is the secret? Please let us know? Secretly? Just 363 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: blame everybody struggle for us. That was honestly, You're like, yeah, 364 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: I'm salty, because that's how I used to always that. 365 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: That was Miles used to be the salty loner guy 366 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: who's like, I don't get this ship, because I was like, 367 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: I haven't sorted out my own parents divorced yet, so 368 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: I was more just like looking outside of myself, like 369 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: that's the problem over there. I'm like, therapy. What huh, oh, 370 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: thank you. I need to I need to do some forgiveness. Okay, 371 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: got it. Anyway, shout out to Dr Schmitra, my therapist. 372 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a senior minute, but that's because you're 373 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: this ship, you know what I mean? Dana. What's something 374 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Oh? Um? I think like the 375 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: broad multi camera sit com that people that on the 376 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: coast don't launch, but that the Midwest loves. I love, 377 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: like just like the cheesiest broadest that came on the planet, 378 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: like and everybody loves Raymond. Like I think, like, and 379 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: obviously those aren't actually underrated. They're like they are properly rated, 380 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: They're hugely rated, but like I think they're underrated in 381 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: like cool communities, and I really like them. I've been 382 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: rewatching like two and off men. Obviously you know some 383 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: problematic elements, but oh, what happened? Is everything cool with 384 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: John Wolf? What's that guy's name that was the bad 385 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: guy of the two? Right, isn't Charlie's what happened with 386 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen? I don't know. Wasn't he canceled for something? 387 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Charlie? I don't know. I actually don't know. 388 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: I I'm just saying that I don't signed major league 389 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: DVDs that I'm going to have to get rid of 390 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: soon if he is canceled that actually I'm not. Yeah, 391 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: I really don't know he is, but I love it 392 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: so um wait, so so you're saying the classics like 393 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: you're dusting off the classic sitcom or do you even 394 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: see any like what you're seeing now? I'm literally saying, 395 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: like multi camps that comes to like that no one 396 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: watches like the Neighbors on CBS or whatever. Wait was 397 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: that about exactly the Neighborhood. It's like it's like a 398 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: it's a multiicam with like Max greenfelt in like Cedrict Entertainer, 399 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: and it's like it's like just the broadest multi camp 400 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: about a white family moving into a black neighborhood and 401 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: it's not great. But I'm like there is something about 402 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: it that I'm like, it's doing something. It's filling a void, right, 403 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. Like the way you talk about it, 404 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: you say it sort of reminds me of how I 405 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: talk about terrible Christmas romance films that come out of Hallmark, 406 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: where it's like, yo, dude, the worst the better. Yeah, yeah, yes, 407 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: I think. I think like as the more the more 408 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: like multi cam, like, the more that you could make 409 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: fun of it for being stupid, the more I like it, 410 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: got it, got it, got it, got it. So I 411 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: mean I guess that's the other thing too, Like there's 412 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: a comfort in like really predictable like writing. Also, I 413 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: live a laugh track. I'm like telling tell me, okay, wait, 414 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: so okay, what's if you're gonna put somebody onto a 415 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: sitcom right now? What would you what would you recommend? Um? Honestly, 416 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just telling everyone I know to watch 417 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: where you watched You and Half Man And they don't 418 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: like it, and they're like they're like, stop telling me 419 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: to watch that. It all and it's dope. The Elementary 420 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, actually, but I have an elementaries like like 421 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: like that's like, this is what I'm different than talking about. 422 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: It's like we're talking. I'm like like it's like an 423 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: opiate for your brain. Like you're literally like it's like 424 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: you feel like you're on Santa you know. I call 425 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: that listen No, I call that Depression TV. Yeah, I 426 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: am way into it. My Depression TV was friends for 427 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: a long time. I don't really like anybody on that 428 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: shows a human being, like not the actors are fine, 429 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: but like the characters, you know, difficult to human beings 430 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: we not want to live with. But man, something about 431 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: that show was just like I'm gonna get through the 432 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: day and it's gonna be fine. It's gonna be okay. 433 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: And once you watch a show so many times now 434 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you know the beats of it and when you can 435 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: start saying the lines with like it's time to get 436 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: out of that. I have to go do something with 437 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the Office. And I was like, like the UK and 438 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: American version of the Office, I would I would like 439 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: saying I would like I could like like you're saying, 440 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: you know the beats of it to the point like 441 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm just listening to music now, no, no, no, 442 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: the Office is music. I mean officuely, like I knew 443 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: karaoke to ever episode of the Office, right, you know, 444 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: like yeah, like a man on hinge. I'm like, wow, 445 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: I can really I know every line of the Office. 446 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about it. I don't 447 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: know what it is about it. Although recently there was 448 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: that episode where um, someone took a dump on Michael 449 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: in Michael's office and on the carpet and he says 450 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: this thing where I'm like, I've always been like you know, 451 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: since like you know, we've been more aware of like 452 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: ignorance and workplaces and more sensitive to it, especially after 453 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Michael Scott rubs me in such a fucking like the 454 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: wrong way. Like it's weird how my relationship to Michael 455 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Scott has changed over the years, And I'm like, this 456 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: motherfucker is like exact problem with all these point it is. 457 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: But I think I've I then I've I shifted to 458 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: this place of like I don't know how funny sometimes 459 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: like even benign ignorance can be to me anymore. But 460 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: it's but it's like it ebbs and flows because other 461 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: times I watch it, I'm like sh it is so stupid. 462 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: I love it, but so in my mind, like when 463 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: people always talk about you know, they always speculate like 464 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: what would the office be doing now or whatever, I'm like, dude, 465 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: this guy would be such an alright person. And then 466 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: in the in the fucking episode, he's like, I love 467 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. He brings up fear factor and he goes 468 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: pretty much love anything Joe Rogan does. And I was like, Okay, 469 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: there's the exhibit A. I mean, that's that's who Michael 470 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Scott is for sure. I mean I always think of 471 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: the episode where he pretends like they have to stay 472 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: an extra hour because of something corporate wants them to do, 473 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: just so you can make sure that they all come 474 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: to his party, because well, I know that you thought 475 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: you were gonna stay late, so you have you don't 476 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: have many plans. You have to come to my party, 477 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: right um. And I'm like, that's so funny and crazy, 478 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: that's sick. And still no one comes to this party 479 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: or I mean one of my favorites of this Dwight's 480 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: date to the dinner party that he wasn't invited to. Okay, anyway, 481 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: this is not a it's not an office podcast. We 482 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: actually have that. It's called The Office Deep Dive with 483 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Brian Bob Gartner on the network, So check that ship out, 484 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: not this one. All right, let's take a quick break 485 00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back after this. And we're back, 486 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about this little thing called Fox News. I 487 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: think we've all I think it's safe to say without saying, 488 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: but I will just for the purposes of clear communication, 489 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: that we're all pretty clear on how partisan the news 490 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: has become over the last few decades. And you know, 491 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: we've seen the effects that it has not only on 492 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: like just the voting population and you know what sort 493 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: of the political views people have, but also like because 494 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: of that has caused a lot of chaos even within 495 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: families where people are like yep, you know people regularly 496 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: say like lost my uncle to Fox News, or like 497 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: my Fox News family, or you know, my family's a 498 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Fox News family. We've all heard this, and you know 499 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people again because of this, we've we've 500 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: seen how sort of this sort of Fox News radicalization 501 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: process can take hold over time. And not to say 502 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: that watching enough MSNBC doesn't do something to you too, 503 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: because it does. You see that when people aren't othered 504 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: by real things that are happening in real time in 505 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: front of their faces. But these two researchers just published 506 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: a study on what they call partisan coverage filtering, which 507 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: is basically that if you're like a particularly part is 508 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: in news outlet, you're going to basically selectively report on 509 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: things because if it's sucking up the narrative that you 510 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: need to keep your listener, viewers or whatever in check 511 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: to be go along with, oh, this is what the 512 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: GOP is, then yeah, you're not going to report on 513 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: the bad ship because that's gonna completely threaten this sort 514 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: of worldview that you're trying to create. And you know, again, 515 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: this is all this does is create a person who 516 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: is now operating in a real reality, who has a 517 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: biased set of facts that they're operating from and how 518 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: they look at the world. So for Fox viewers, you 519 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: would say that that bias set of facts would be 520 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: something like that COVID isn't that serious, That masks don't work, 521 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: that Trump was one of the most effective presidents. Democrats 522 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: let like looters run their cities, and white people are 523 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: the most vulnerable group on the planet Earth. Those are 524 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: that's sort of like the general sort of NonStop flow 525 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: of bias information that you get in there. So these 526 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: researchers wonder, well, what happens if you just switch someone's 527 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: media diet in the other direction? Can this Does this 528 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: have any effects? And the simple answer is yes. So 529 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: this is how they sort of did this study. Over 530 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: of the seven sixty three qualifying participants, they randomized forty 531 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: of the treatment group, So the other six were like 532 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: one percent read till I like, I bleed, my eyes 533 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: are red, my hair is red, I'm so red, I'm 534 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: gop jackie whatever. You These people are full blown Fox 535 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: brain people. So then what they did was to change 536 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: their slant of their media diet. Quote, we offered treatment 537 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: group participants fifteen dollars an hour to watch seven hours 538 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: of CNN per week during September. So this is in 539 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: the lead up to the fucking election, okay, And they 540 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: then they were prioritizing the hours at which like if 541 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: the participants that they basically said, if you're normally watching 542 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Fox News at that time, will give you fifty dollars 543 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: to watch CNN instead. And then at the end of it, 544 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: we're going to kind of survey you, ask you questions 545 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: about what you're seeing and what the information is that 546 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: you're sort of taking in. And what they did is quote, 547 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: at the three day mark, the viewers took a survey 548 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: and they found quote large effects of watching CNN instead 549 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: of Fox News on participants factual perceptions of current events, 550 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: like their beliefs and knowledge about the presidential candidates. They 551 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: discovered changes in attitudes about Donald Trump and Republicans, as 552 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: well as a large effect on their opinions about COVID. 553 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: They even then went on to articulate observations that were 554 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: essentially like, oh, so Fox just won't cover anything about 555 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: Trump if it's bad. And they're saying like, oh, this 556 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: is something new, now, this is I don't know, I 557 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what to make of this. 558 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: I know, jokingly, people are like, oh, there's your there's 559 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats mid terms. Fucking strategy is just pay people 560 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: to not watch Fox and make sure. Maybe that could 561 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: be a weird, subtle unemployment plan for Fox viewers to 562 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: be like, hey, we'll give you some money if you 563 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: just watch CNN a couple of hours, just a little bit, 564 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: just to see where that goes. But I don't know, 565 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, does this does this resonate with with 566 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: either of you or in general? Yeah? I think I'm 567 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: trying to recall, Um, this is sad. What's the school 568 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: shooting after Sandy Hook the one in Florida? Uh? Marjorie 569 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: Stoneman Douglas, Yes, they're a kid from there was talking 570 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: about like how he had to move out of his 571 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: father's house because his father started to believe that school 572 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: shooting that he survived was fake, which is, like, I mean, 573 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: I think really goes to show the power of television 574 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: and really these news networks and their ability to corrupt 575 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: and and persuade people to believe that whatever they're saying 576 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: is the truth. And I when we talked a little 577 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: bit yesterday about the ways communities sort of insulate people 578 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: and makes it comfortable to stay there, And I just 579 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: wonder if there's a way, Like it just seems to 580 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: me that the only way to stop Fox News from 581 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: continuing to just out and outline of folks is for 582 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: the government to come in and be like, we do 583 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: have to pull your funding because just from a factual rate, 584 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: like you guys are no longer a news program, your entertainment. 585 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: It's something that was talked about a long time ago, 586 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: so like maybe seven or eight years ago, Like, you know, 587 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot of news sources are you know, get funding 588 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: or tax breaks or whatever, because you know, it's an 589 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: essential part of our democracy is that people have access 590 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: to the press. And then you know, but then that's 591 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: obviously a slippery slope of like is you know, and 592 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: we can barely agree on facts anymore anyway, But yeah, 593 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess if you can, you know, And 594 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: I've heard of people being clever enough to like block 595 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Fox TV on their parents television, on their grandparents television, 596 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: on that weird uncle's television. You know, I would like 597 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: to see more of that. Get proactive with your families, 598 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: start to do you as I like to say, So, yeah, 599 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: if you can go in there and block that channel 600 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: and be like, well, y'all seen ends right there, maybe 601 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: they've got some information use today they're like, no, I can't, 602 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: it's all crap, and they're gonna just talk nonsense about 603 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: my president. I'll go to YouTube and fall down entirely different, terrifying. God. Yeah, 604 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: you inadvertently you're like, well if I turned that spake 605 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: it off and they went to go drink from the 606 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: toxiccess pit. How many things can we block in this house? 607 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Do we just unplug everything so they can't watch it? 608 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Like the child parental locks. I mean, that's what other 609 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: people do, is like they'll put what they'll restrict websites 610 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: for their parents or put the parental locks on the things, 611 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: and then just like play dumb when it comes to me, 612 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: like Fox won't come on the TV anymore, Like I 613 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, I don't know that. You gotta call 614 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: your cable provider. You might have it, yeah, in which 615 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: case they'll probably be like, are your kids trying to 616 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: fucking keep you from hearing the word? But I mean yeah, 617 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: Like to your point about the power of television, it 618 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: really is like we so many people are entranced by this, 619 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, the spectacle of the television, you know, and 620 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: that everything that emanates from it is somehow the truth, 621 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: and people like it's the same thing with the Internet. 622 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: There a lot of people are like, well, if it's 623 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: on the internet like it's and people are saying it's 624 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: so forcefully like there must be some like shred of 625 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: truth to it. In the same way like well, if 626 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: this person is on TV, like they don't just let 627 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: anybody on TV that it has there must be a 628 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: shred of truth to that. But yeah, it it is 629 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: really a frightening like you're saying that example of like 630 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: you're you're even looking at something that's your your child 631 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: lived through, but because of the like you're just being 632 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: constantly bombarded with this kind of messaging, You're like, I 633 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe my kids traumas a lie. He's he's 634 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: an actor that they paid the level of mental gymnastics 635 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: you have to do to stop believing that your own 636 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: child survived a shooting in your own neighborhood like you, 637 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, now we've all lived through a tragedy 638 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: where you're hearing sirens from everywhere where, you're getting calls, 639 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: where you're on social media, like we know what happens 640 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: when tragedy strikes. It's very like clear key. So it's 641 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: very you know, challenging for me to believe that this 642 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: guy didn't actually live through the event and then gets 643 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: so brainwashed he was like what I experienced didn't actually happen. 644 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: That is bizarre. That is I'm it's broaching crazy. How 645 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: many how many layers are there too? I mean, I 646 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean like this is I'll give this 647 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: person the goodwill of thinking they maybe thought they were 648 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: a good parent, and maybe there's some level of guilt 649 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: that their kid was exposed to that that they're in 650 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: denial of. That turns out I'm not excusing it, but 651 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out 652 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: how you go from like, WHOA, my kids all shook 653 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: up to Nah, it's so scary. I think that, like 654 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: so much of empathy is humanizing the people that you 655 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: might have a differing view of. And you know, when 656 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: these people turn on CNN, it's like, oh, these aren't lizards, 657 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, these aren't These are 658 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: actually human beings with like heartbeats, who like you actually 659 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: can add a human face to the other side of 660 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: like what they're used to hearing. And it's like, oh, no, 661 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: these are people like me, not exactly like, but like 662 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: it's enough to be like, oh, it's not that ship 663 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: crazy that like, you know the fact that there's a virus. 664 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: They don't have lizard skins, you know. So when I 665 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: think that was the thing they saw in the research 666 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: was just hearing over and over like a measured thing 667 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: from people who are like doctors, be like, yeah, it's 668 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: really important to keep yourself safe rather than the other side, 669 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: and be like Fauci has lost it. I mean, he's 670 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: the new doctor Mangela. You're like, that probably will put 671 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: you in a different posture when you're trying to understand 672 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: the process information. So I don't know, if only it 673 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: were that simple just to be like, just watch CNN 674 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: and then you'll be indifferent about racism. So you get 675 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: you you can get, you can get any way you live, 676 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: basically when you're watching that good old v UM. Speaking 677 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: of overlords, I want to check in with Howard Schultz, 678 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: who is the on again off against Starbucks CEO as 679 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, and he is again he's fighting for 680 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: his corporate overlord life right now. The historic unionization of 681 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: a Starbucks and Buffalo was a high point for people 682 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: who are actually invested in labor rights, UH and equity. 683 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: But if you're in the c suite of a publicly 684 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: traded company, it looked more like when the spaceships from 685 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: Independence Day pulled up, like where they're looking at that 686 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, they're trying to fund us up. And 687 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: that was and that's why we see so much money 688 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: going into union busting and fucking with people who are 689 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: trying to organize unions in their workplaces. So he was 690 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: so concerned, right, he came out of retirement to try 691 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: and reason with the people with some of these employees 692 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. This was back in November when we covered it. 693 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: There was that clip of him like lining like the 694 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: unionizing workers to like people in the Holocaust who are 695 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: sharing a blanket to like keep themselves from not dying 696 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: in the freezing cold. And he's like, and that's what 697 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: we try and do at Starbucks is share the blanket 698 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: as a way to be like, so you don't have 699 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: to unionize where you're like, I'm sorry, who are the 700 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: Holocaust victims in this metaphor exactly what are you saying? 701 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 1: So that obviously went to the sound of crickets. Those 702 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: workers successfully unionized. And you know, this is like the 703 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: thing that a lot of people who are you know, 704 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: who are OMG afraid of unionizing, they see places like 705 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Starbucks that have so many locations that if slowly they 706 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: begin to unionize more and more, that a company that 707 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: hires so many people has like such a sort of 708 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: baseline for what is equal pay. That affects fucking everyone 709 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: else in the space. That's why you see so much 710 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: money being poured into it, because down the road they're like, 711 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: don I have to make less Moneis. So when that 712 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: didn't work, he returned to his post is as as 713 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: CEO and he's been you know, I presumably because he 714 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: thinks he can keep the unionizing from how opening. And 715 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: he had another employee roundtable discussion again recently, and my god, 716 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: this is him getting you know, we want to get 717 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: to I don't see you're not employees. Were partners. You 718 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: guys are partners, even though you don't have any steak 719 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: in the profits of this place. Where partners, right, And 720 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: he wanted to just kind of let everybody know all 721 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: the cool stuff that's happening in Starbucks, basically as a 722 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: way to sort of say like, we're gonna stop, he said, 723 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: we'll stop doing stock by backs, and we're actually gonna 724 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: pour that money back into the company. They're like making 725 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: better stores and maybe wages who knows, won't say that explicitly, 726 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: and just you know, making things nicer for Starbucks as 727 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: it is. The people again were so fucking bored at 728 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: this event that then he goes on to be Okay, 729 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: that didn't work. What else can I get these these 730 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: like really poor working people, How can I get them 731 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: excited about the future of Starbucks? Listen to this fucking pivot? Okay? 732 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: How many people have followed what has been happening with 733 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: n f T s nervous laughter? How many people have 734 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: participated in investing in n f T s. We're poor beach? Okay, Okay, 735 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: So if you look at I've tried to be a 736 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: student with all this, not being a digital native. If 737 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: you look at the companies, the brands of celebrities, the 738 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: influences that are trying to create a digital n f 739 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: T platform and business, I can't find one of them 740 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: that has the treasure trove of assets that Starbucks has, 741 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: from selectibles to the entire heritage of the company. So 742 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: any entertainment industry with solidified characters are stories, way way 743 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: backed up, has more than I'm sorry, the dream company Starbucks. 744 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: You sound like an idiot, And that's just on a 745 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: business level. Ambling ambling entertainment as a production company has 746 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: more exploitable i p. Than fucking Starbucks. But again, this 747 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: is what he was saying. He was danely He's like, 748 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't that be sick? Like y'all, Like Starbucks is gonna 749 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: start doing n f T s. How the funk does 750 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: that benefit these people? And what the funk did you 751 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: think they were going to be? Like finally, because what 752 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: he'll he'll pivot to and you know who's gonna get 753 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: first first swipe with those n f T s, y'all, 754 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: the partners. That is what's wild to me is these 755 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, millionaire billionaire CEOs coming to talk to folks 756 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: who make one their salary a year, you know, and 757 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: not ever sitting down to actually address these issues, but 758 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: like talking to them like they're at a board meeting. 759 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: You know. It just it doesn't compute at all to 760 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: their daily lives. You're not at all addressing their needs. 761 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: Are concerned. You're just adding frivolous things to a company 762 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: that they genuinely don't care about. Here's the thing you 763 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: need to understand. If you're paying your employee minimum wage, 764 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: If you're paying and most likely if you're paying your 765 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: employee ten dollars over a minimum wage, don't give a 766 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: shit about your company. They don't care you have a 767 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: family to them, they don't have the time they came 768 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: in here to make sure their kids could eat right. 769 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: It's from the last story where it will be criminal 770 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: to not have a job. That's because I love you, 771 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: even if they really enjoy making their little lotta foam 772 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: are or you know, this Starbucks is a hub in 773 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: their community and people come in and use the internet 774 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: and it you know, that feels warm and fuzzy to them. 775 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: Like even if those things are true, it's still most 776 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: likely not their dream place. You know, most of them 777 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: are not, Like I can't wait to open a Starbucks 778 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: with my very own Like they literally just came here 779 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: to work. And when we make it so that, you know, 780 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: our jobs have to support our health care, when our 781 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 1: jobs have to support us past retirement, then it's important 782 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: that jobs do those things. Like you really can't have 783 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: it both ways of being like, well, we don't want 784 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: the government to like support people independently, you know, they 785 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: gotta work, but we also aren't going to make it 786 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: so that workplaces have to support people in a way 787 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: that is realistic. And please don't unionize and make us 788 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: have to actually honor those that relationship where I'm telling 789 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: you we're a family, and this is the thing even 790 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: though the n f t S thing didn't. Fucking everyone 791 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: laughed at that one. He then just fully takes the 792 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: fucking mask off and hits people with his assessment of 793 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: what workers fighting to have stable and life sustaining wages 794 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: looks like unionizing. This is this is his unionizing take. 795 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets a little sensitive, because I've been 796 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: coached a little bit. But I do want to talk 797 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: about something pretty serious. Oh, we can't ignore what is 798 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: happening in the country as it relates to company. These 799 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: throughout the country being assaulted in many ways by the 800 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: threat of unionization. You can't assault person literally using the 801 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: word assault for that is actually truly so absurd. Someone 802 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: coached him to say that, Rehan Fire, I think he 803 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: was coached to not say please, don't say that a 804 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: sleep like we said, avoid the word of salt, and 805 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: then you would you ascribed that too. You're saying a 806 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: multibillion dollar entity was being assaulted by people seeking seeking equity. Wow, 807 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: you want to want be people wanting to be paid 808 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: like five dollars more an hour. I'm like, that's like, 809 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: you're crazy, Like this is the thing, right, and it 810 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: makes sense from the perspective of an olive garden like this, 811 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: if you're used to making obscene amounts of money, like 812 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: every fucking hour on the hour, anything that fucking threatens 813 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: that order seems like an existential threat. Is the same 814 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: ship you saw a white supremacist deal with anything dealing 815 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: with equality. They treat that ship as a'n like existential threat. 816 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: Black lives matter, Oh my god, then ours, don't you 817 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's exact same response from someone 818 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: in a place of you know, in the hedge demonic 819 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: class or whatever whatever what have you to be to 820 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: look at this and say this is fucking dangerous, this 821 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: is bad, but also to not have the wherewithal or 822 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: awareness to you're talking to the fucking people that are 823 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: looking for a better outcome, and you're saying, like, I 824 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard about these fucking poor weirdos 825 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: that one are like curb stomp Starbucks. But that's like. 826 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: The super wealthy have this idea that you have to 827 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: you have to work your way up from nothing, and 828 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: they're really repulsed by the idea that people might start 829 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: off at a balanced place, even though many of them 830 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: started off like beyond wealthy, you know, like recently I 831 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: was offered a gig from somebody who's like, yeah, i'd 832 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: have to bump you down to you assistant and work 833 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: your way up. This person wealthy, their whole existence born 834 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: into like family name wealth. And I was like, as 835 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: much as I appreciate I guess the offers to come 836 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: work for you, Like I've risen to an executive status, 837 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: I can't go back to it. I just literally could 838 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: not work for it that literally cannot afford to go 839 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: back to. And he was like, oh, well, my current 840 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: assistant can't afford it either, but she really wants the gig. 841 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: I don't know to tell you, bro, I can't be 842 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: your You can't do what she's doing. And it's just 843 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: it's a complete unawareness of like what it is to 844 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: just try to survive. But again, these are the same 845 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: people who if you ask them, what's a gown of 846 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: gas costs? You know, I read that you're mostly impacted 847 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: by the inflation if you make less than three d 848 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: k a year. I instantly felt called out. I was like, oh, 849 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm poor. Cool, great, like, yeah, if you make up 850 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: up their education, you're not really being impacted by the inflation. 851 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of puts into perspective for a 852 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of people, like, oh, this is the difference of 853 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: and theater ca is not even touching extreme wealth, right, 854 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: that is it's it's just hard to conceptualize how people 855 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: could be so upset about like maybe you can't afford 856 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: your second yacht, but you know, other people are literally 857 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: just trying to keep an apartment. We have family every year. 858 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm like shocked by the idea of families piling into 859 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: their car because it has air conditioning and just driving 860 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: around as a means to keep their families like cooled off. Yeah, 861 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: the disparity is this, It's it's unconscionable to come and 862 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 1: then talk to these people and play in their face 863 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: like this. Um. But I'm glad the Internet gets to 864 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: roast him. But I also think it's like people like him, 865 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't know any poor people, like the poor people, 866 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: so it's like that, you know, people like that day 867 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: will say like, no, you know, I used to I 868 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: used to be I used to be a working guy. 869 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: Back in seven two, I was working with this guy, 870 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: this feller. He came from Loos in Asia and we 871 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: were we were working together, shoulder to shoulder, and he 872 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: told me, how how much better it was here in 873 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: the US, And I think about that, how do I 874 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: give that to my employees? Like that's like the weird 875 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: like a class awareness that these people pretend to have. 876 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: Its like from sixty years ago, not like yeah exactly. 877 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: I also like yelling. You used to be able to 878 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: like rise up a little higher. It's like now you can't, right, 879 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the playing field is so tilted now. 880 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: It's it's it's very hard to know who actually has 881 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: a head start because most people look like they're starting 882 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: from some kind of deficit. But yeah, you know what, 883 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: Bezos and Schultz, they've poured a lot of money into 884 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: busting the unions um at their respective companies because again 885 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: that upfront spend of spending millions of dollars now to 886 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: just even prevent like when you even say, dude, that 887 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: four million would have kept those people from wanting to 888 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: unionize if you just invested in them, They're like, no, no, not, 889 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: because then I'd have to do it everywhere. If I 890 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: just do this one four million to completely go outside 891 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: the bounds of the law to union bust, that's more. 892 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: That's better for my long term goal of making as 893 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 1: much money as possible than to have people collectively bargaining 894 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 1: for a fair share. No, join such support your local 895 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: workers revolution. It's happening. It's among us, That's the thing. 896 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I know they're not liking 897 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: this because the momentum is definitely, uh, not with them 898 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: at the moment. It's definitely with the workers and the 899 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: people see if they can win. And the thing is like, 900 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: like Kellog had to find out the hard way, we 901 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: will just stop working because there's not that much of 902 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: a difference from the way. We'll just stop. So they're like, 903 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: I can figure it out. They're like, no, we can 904 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: figure out. This called mutual aid that can help me 905 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: weather this storm. All right, let's take a quick break 906 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: and we'll come back to just talk about it in 907 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: these tickets and we're back. Grammy's anybody watch it? No 908 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: cool moving on refrigerator door? Oh okay, No, I wasna. 909 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: I watched it like I watched everything through my Twitter timeline, 910 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: which is essentially just so it was like, BTS is here, Megan, 911 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: the Salion Halsey were super dope. Pat Scissor with her dress, 912 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: why was this a wearing a tight dress and on 913 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: like a nine foot train and crutches upstairs. How she 914 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: didn't have an hand to God, that was a miracle, 915 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: Like we witnessed a miracle last night, because any normal 916 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: person would have fallen down and busted their neck. And 917 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: the Anderson pack was caused playing as which R and 918 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: B storry with that leg. I think it was one 919 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: of the I didn't even come up in my text group. 920 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: It was like a bowl cut straight. Hey, it's like 921 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: an iconic R and B person's seventies haircut. He kind 922 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: of looks like, uh, fucking who was Tina Turner married too? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 923 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't it's called He's definitely cause playing as somebody, 924 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: which I think is getting a little messy. Like Bruno 925 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: Mars was smoking a cigarette while accepting the award. I 926 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: was like, that can't be allowed in that theater is listened. 927 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 1: As we said last week, we don't really trust the 928 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: Grammys or yesterday, yesterday, yesterday. Really you can't really trust 929 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: the Grammys. They don't know who to give awards to. 930 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: That's really about money slash connections. It's a messy awards show. 931 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: And that's saying something. This year and a year of 932 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: incredibly messy Awards shows. Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't 933 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: catch the Anderson pack thing. The other thing I saw 934 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: was the two things that first cropped up on my 935 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: text threads. And people will be like, are y'all watching? 936 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: And I was like no. Then sons like President Zelinski 937 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: is talking and I was like what, And so I 938 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: watched it. It's just so there's like the very very 939 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: surreal moment where you have a president of a country 940 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: who is in the middle of a war trying to 941 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: fight back a Russian invasion, where he's being like, I 942 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,919 Speaker 1: hope the people of Ukraine know the freedom of those 943 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: of you on the Grammy stage, and this guy is 944 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: talking like where he's he's he's up there just trying 945 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: to get more people's attention on the atrocities happening in Ukraine, 946 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: especially like now we're seeing this news of like the 947 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: executions of civilians and and more and more like credible 948 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: allegations of like assault against citizens from like the Russian 949 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: soldiers and things like that, that there's like real dark, 950 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: real ship going on. And then for that to happen 951 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: in like a room full of people who are like 952 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: least likely to be plugged into jeal political events. It 953 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: was just like it felt like he had become a 954 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: meme in that weird way, you know, and he's like, well, 955 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: you gotta do some woke I have President Zelinsky give 956 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 1: a quick shout out before Lady Gaga does some smooth 957 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: jazz singing. It was like the Steve Steve Bush is like, hello, 958 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: fellow kids. Yeah, it just felt odd, Like you know, 959 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 1: it's like it's a very weird emotional juxtaposition of like things, 960 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: right because like on one hand, people are celebrating their 961 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: achievements as musicians, as artists, and then this guy comes on. 962 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: It is like, yeah, man, the world's really fucked up. 963 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: Just so you know, like he said something to the 964 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: effect of the musicians in Ukraine now don't work tuxedos. 965 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: They now were that they were fatigues, and they now 966 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: serenade the injured soldiers and like, you know, really powerful, 967 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: Like about a minute and a half speech he gave 968 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: and then just right back into the passing tree. It 969 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: just felt as they totally It definitely feels off. But 970 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: there's also something about how I don't know how many 971 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: people watch the Grammys now, but this like I know 972 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 1: a lot of people are avoiding the news just as 973 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: a self as your vation tactic, which I understand needing 974 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: to take that on small doses, but I also feel 975 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: like this is perhaps something that we should definitely not 976 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: be ignoring, and so I understand like wanting to give 977 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: that space, but I do think there's probably a better 978 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: way to bring that in and come back out to 979 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: our like very gaudy, paid for awards ceremony. I don't, 980 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that, and also maybe 981 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: like launched the show with that bit of a down, 982 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: like before we get into anything tonight, right right, right 983 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: exactly exactly, then have than have just all the dessert 984 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: you want, like honoring Louis c K's comedy album. And 985 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: we talked about this when the Okay. When I remember 986 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: when the nominations came out, Everyone's like cancel culture, who 987 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: over over here getting nominated and winning Okay and then 988 00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: winning Kanye and Marylyn Manson Kanye featuring Marilyn Manson win 989 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: a Grammy for their track Dan Jail, Like jail. You're like, 990 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: hold On should be in jail. I mean, I don't. 991 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: I don't wish jail on anybody, but you know what 992 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying here y'all should be banished from the good 993 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: places where people go, is what I mean to say. 994 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: He was in. That's the thing. He was banished to 995 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: Ukraine during wartime, remember that, where like Louisa k was 996 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be performing in Kiev like the night of 997 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: the Invasion. Oh really you remember that, like the show, 998 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: Like it was one of those things where it's like 999 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: he was supposed to perform there and they didn't say 1000 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: it was canceled, and so like that. People thought he 1001 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: was like giving a like a big concert hall performance 1002 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: of comedy as bombs were falling. But I think apparently 1003 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: like it wasn't true. It was like like, yeah, of 1004 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: course I was out of there. What are you talking about? 1005 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: That'd be funny if someone's keep plugged. It was like 1006 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: my boy Louis, he visited me during wartime. You should 1007 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: all check it out. Oh this is all getting fucked up. 1008 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: Don't don't do all that. But yeah, I mean I 1009 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: think it's a just kind of a surreal moment and 1010 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: then you see all of like that weird emphasis like 1011 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: the Smith Chris Rock discourse is continuing still with people 1012 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: being like it's not enough. You gotta slap anybody who 1013 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: talks about it like that's the new rules, Like why 1014 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: would you bring this up here? And now it's over? 1015 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: Where are your energy for the Grammys? Everybody? You know? Where? Seriously? 1016 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: Where is? Where is all the energy for the Okay? 1017 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: But I'm that's why you see people exposing themselves with 1018 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: what they're giving their energy to. Deciding to put his 1019 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: movie on hold. But I think Dave Chappelle more like wild. 1020 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: One demographic that could benefit from like some moral clarity 1021 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: is like the youth. You know, he's like teachers, like, hey, 1022 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: there are consequences for your action, but like not really, 1023 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: yeah exactly exactly. It's yeah, it's so a surreal moment. 1024 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: But I did see Olivia Rodrigo dropped her gram one 1025 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: of her grammysn't broke it. That's always enjoying that. Yeah, 1026 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: she's gonna get a new one. But I just like 1027 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: just the idea of like, oh, like with so many 1028 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: musicians in that crowd, someone should be able to like 1029 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 1: re put together the Curb theme song, just like just 1030 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: see that's what we need to see. That would have 1031 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: been sick all those musicians. Everyone has kazoos and you 1032 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: just do these like rousing like ten Thou person renditions 1033 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: of songs and ship I see John O. We're already 1034 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: producing a better show, oh man. And then lastly, I 1035 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: just want to touch on this article I was reading 1036 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: in the take out that they're writer. Angela Pagan was 1037 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: just pointing out that the article is called keep these 1038 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: items off your refrigerator door. What the hold on? Like? 1039 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: Is this the real thing? Now? I do want to say, 1040 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: before we talked about this, this isn't to say like 1041 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: you'll die if you keep certain food and it's on 1042 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: refrigerator door. But it's more so I was educated on 1043 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: what the refrigeration rador door kind of is, right, So 1044 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: right now I don't know what. I guess something you 1045 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: go around? What is every what do people? What do 1046 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: y'all have when your refrigerator door? Butter sauces any kind 1047 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: of like drink, you know, lots of cans and or 1048 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: bottled drinks. Sometimes you know if a carton of you know, 1049 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: the oak milk might fit in there. Parents U s 1050 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: have a fridge that had a gallon milk holder on 1051 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: the side of it, which I was like, brilliant, crazy, 1052 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: what's a gallon milk holder? So like the door was 1053 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: structured in such a way that I could hold a 1054 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: gallon of milk in this like square thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, 1055 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: those things Okay, sauces, some some butter, some egg stuff. 1056 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: What about you, John, what's real quick to clarify what 1057 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: he said? It was on the door. I thought you 1058 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: meant like the magnets on the front outside of It's 1059 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: just saying your fridge doesn't have the right mindset hanging there. Baby, 1060 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 1: get something like destroy today. Okay, right right, Throw this 1061 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: creamer in your coffee and get going. Bish. It's like 1062 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 1: that your your your nephew's baby picture isn't cute enough. 1063 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: Get your milk's gonna go bad. That goes to the side. 1064 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: The All my condiments are on the door, all my 1065 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: condiments and a bunch of drinks like Lacroix and what 1066 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: have you. Same, I'm up. All my hot sauces are there, 1067 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: my salad, my condom like Japanese cooking sauces that I 1068 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 1: used to turn up my dishes and things that all 1069 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: goes on the door. Butter. But here's this very interesting 1070 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: thing that they were saying that actually things like milk 1071 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: and eggs should not be on the refrigerator door. And 1072 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying should not be because you will die 1073 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: because shout out to all of us who have been 1074 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: doing this. And I'm fine, But the refrigerator door is 1075 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: actually the place that offers the least consistent like cooling. 1076 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: So like the second you open it, it's it's getting 1077 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: all of the warm air just washing over it, while 1078 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: everything that's on the shelves and the like proper interior 1079 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: of the refrigerator, that's where your milk should go, so 1080 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: where your eggs should go. Okay, that's what you need 1081 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: to put that stuff in there. One thing I didn't 1082 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: then this is an interesting debate and I bring this 1083 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: up is this They point to another article that was 1084 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: all about things that can or can't don't have to 1085 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: be refrigerated. Catch up in mustard? Mm hmmm, are y'all 1086 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: do y'all put your ketchup and mustard in the refrigerator 1087 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: or do you live like you see it at the 1088 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,439 Speaker 1: restaurant where that ship is never refrigerator mustards. I tend 1089 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: to freeze barbee sauces, ketchups freeze, not free Sorry, I 1090 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: like my mustard sliced and like don't you imagine, Oh, 1091 01:00:53,840 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: like on a microplane, like mustard got you, No, I 1092 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: put it in the fridge, and then like parkis houses 1093 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: and ketchup and stuff is usually in a cabinet, John 1094 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: A you refrigerator your ketchup mustard or yeah, I mean 1095 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: because we also like use and I think with with restaurants, 1096 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: they use like one over like the course of three days. 1097 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm using a thing of mustard ketch up over 1098 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: the course of a year and a half. Right, right, 1099 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: but you know what they were saying, you can still 1100 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: let that ship cook on the shelf. Okay, it's not 1101 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: a good uh um indicator about what's in ketchup and 1102 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: mustard that it's able to say all preservatives, that's all 1103 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: it's but it's perfect, doesn't go bad. But part of 1104 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 1: me like I kind of like cold ketchup. Sometimes there's 1105 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,439 Speaker 1: something about I'm weird. See look I'm really talk about 1106 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't even touch ketchup, like I'm just not familiar 1107 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: with her. But the idea of cold tomato paste, it's 1108 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: it's cold, cold, sweet goo that tastes like tomatoes. Come on, now, 1109 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: it's just red it's sugar. Wait, you don't use catch 1110 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's absolutely criminal to have ketchup 1111 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: on a hot dog, obviously, And I know that's where 1112 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: that that sort of hostility towards ketchup emanates from the 1113 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: the great state of Illinois. But is you're but you're 1114 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: saying because of that, that's generally just put you off 1115 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to catch up on anything like I'm not a catch 1116 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: up on the fries ketchup anywhere, it's any I've never 1117 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: bought a bottle of ketchup. Wow. Justin engineer Justin, also 1118 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: from Illinois, said catch up is for children, Yes, and 1119 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: you know what, well, then call me forever young Justin. 1120 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: That's my secret because I'm regularly spiking my down catchup. 1121 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Ketchup is for children, but like spice, catchup is for us. 1122 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: I have that Saracha catchup for like those like other 1123 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: like spicier ones that add add a twist to it, 1124 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: just like I like, yeah, she and I are friends. Well, 1125 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: and then Justin, I'm guessing you don't use ketchup either 1126 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: at all. Okay, that's fine, I don't. We're barbecue people, yeah, sauce. Yeah, 1127 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: oh so you'll okay, so wait, you'll swap out barbecue 1128 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: for ketchup. Contact items like oh yeah yea barbe cries 1129 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah, okay, cool, good, Okay. I don't know, 1130 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: is this the difference of brown sugar? And I'm thinking, 1131 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: like what goes into ketchup versus brown versus vye sauce, 1132 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 1: get a little molasses depends on how you make it, 1133 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, yeah it's yeah, look fine, I'm I 1134 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: can I can handle that. I can handle that. I 1135 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: mean not even to say I was even like, you know, 1136 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: use catch up at all, but I shout out to 1137 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: people who are just built like that, you know, yeah, 1138 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: unlike me. I picked up a horrible habit from this 1139 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: kid I went to school with who would eat every bite, 1140 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: like when we would go to like McDonald's or whatever, 1141 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: in and out, every bite was at least two packets 1142 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: of catchup inundating the burger would catch up. Every bite 1143 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: was just like two package per bite, and you know, 1144 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: we would get high. So like also, I was like, man, 1145 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 1: this person leading me down the wrong path. I'm like 1146 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: good as fun and I And it took like like 1147 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: years later someone I was dating to be like, you 1148 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: have to stop eating a burger like that in front 1149 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: of me. And this wasn't even her Majesty, who I'm 1150 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: married to. Now this is someone else who was looking 1151 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: out for me shout out to you. It was just like, 1152 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: that's not a good look for you. And I was like, 1153 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: you're right, looks like a child. Yeah, you look like 1154 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: someone who grew up without like where catchup was completely 1155 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: banished from your home and you fetishized it as a result. 1156 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, that's enough. Your dad left when 1157 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: we went to go get out some catchup and never 1158 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: came back. And that's why, Okay, that's why I'm like this. 1159 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Alexis see that. Please leave me alone. All right. That's 1160 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please 1161 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show, 1162 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks. 1163 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1164 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By