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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Neukleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Rendered where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear,

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Speaker 1: American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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Speaker 1: to be as rugged as the place as we explore.

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Speaker 1: So you were you were a firefighter for four years?

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Speaker 2: Yep, I was a firefighter for four years.

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Speaker 3: City of Cookville did this program, I guess basically a

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Speaker 3: scholarship where you worked as a full time firefighter.

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Speaker 2: They paid your tuition, and so I did that.

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Speaker 3: After I came home from I went to play college baseball,

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Speaker 3: got up there, didn't like college baseball, had a you know,

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Speaker 3: a reason to come back home. So I came back

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Speaker 3: home and my dad was like, oh, it's too late

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Speaker 3: to transfer. You're gonna work in a factory assembling airbags

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Speaker 3: for six months. And that was miserable. So I decided

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Speaker 3: to go to school and the City of Cookville was

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Speaker 3: doing that student firefighter program. And I had a couple

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Speaker 3: uncles side and uncle that was a Detroit firefighter for

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Speaker 3: twenty years. There's a job, right if you watched that

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Speaker 3: documentary No Burn about the city of Detroit. This was

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Speaker 3: back in early two thousands. I guess where there was

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Speaker 3: this big you know, they light these houses on fire

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Speaker 3: in town and guys were getting hurt where nobody there.

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Speaker 2: Was no real loss of value and real loss of life.

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Speaker 3: There's no lives in there, but guys were getting hurt

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Speaker 3: and it was they basically had stand down orders. It's

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Speaker 3: it's crazy because their equipment was you know, trash and

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Speaker 3: and run down and so yeah, it's called burn burn.

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Speaker 1: What did you get your degree in? Hold on? Let

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Speaker 1: me let me introduce, let me reduce our guests. This

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Speaker 1: is really frowning from Cookville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Second appearance right first, Yeah, I call her second type.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were on the Bear Grease Surrender when we

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Speaker 1: were in Tennessee at the at the media tell which

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Speaker 1: that film came out, which that film came out, which

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Speaker 1: as a unique meteor film. And uh, you're your cameraman.

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Speaker 3: Here man Scott and friend and friend you know, like

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Speaker 3: he gets attached to a friend to friend to Yep,

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Speaker 3: I guess you can as long as I.

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Speaker 4: Don't screw up the hunt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I was that's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: It's a very you know, it's it's dependent on his actions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to I would like to pull

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease audience of how many people know who

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Speaker 1: Rich Froning is. Just raise your hand and if you're

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Speaker 1: in your car, if you knew who who Rich Fronie was,

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Speaker 1: see that hand. Apparently Rich is a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I'm told he used to be. I'm told you know

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Speaker 2: formerly he's a retired.

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Speaker 1: Scott had to tell tell everybody everybody knows who Rich is.

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Speaker 1: But if you were describing who you worked for, who

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Speaker 1: is Rich? Give give like the the the g version.

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Speaker 4: Four time fittest man on Earth, six times fittest team

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Speaker 4: on Earth. Uh, multiple business owner, father Christian.

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Speaker 3: Husband's servant of christ husband at Hillary Froning and father

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Speaker 3: of three something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, that's pretty good. It's bout all I got.

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Speaker 1: That's good man. Well, so we're in Oklahoma right now.

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Speaker 1: You might be you might have noticed that we're not

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Speaker 1: at the Bear Grease World the headquarters where we're in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma with it's ain't no early January, and we're deer hunting.

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Speaker 3: Weird deer hunting, that's what we would call it. I

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Speaker 3: guess over your shoulder there.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, we're deer hunt. Yeah, and we've we've had

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Speaker 1: a pretty we've had a good hunt so far. A

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Speaker 1: lot of actions, a lot of actions yet to be

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Speaker 1: determined on the full outcome of everybody. But Bear's been hunting.

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Speaker 1: Rich has been hunting. I've been hut. I killed this

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Speaker 1: buck yesterday? Is it right there?

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Speaker 2: Other side? No? Right, you're right, yep, yep, you're good.

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Speaker 1: Over there, Yeah, this way to the Yeah, we're both hunting.

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Speaker 1: The Oklahoma season last till January fifteenth, and man, I like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's cool, that's up. Man, I've really enjoyed Oklahoma. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma raised their non resident tags like exponentially this year.

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Speaker 1: Double tag, like, hey, as they should, right, Yeah, I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: With keep the foreigners out, keep us out, keep the

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Speaker 3: I saw you can do a lifetime non resident license, though,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's just because you have

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what that is. I don't think

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Speaker 1: But well, as I understand that they used to sell those,

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Speaker 1: Because when I was a kid, we could have bought that.

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Speaker 1: We lived close to Oklahoma and my dad. I remember

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've got one in Tennessee and all my

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Speaker 1: So we're bo hunting and then bears doing a little trapping. Yep,

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Speaker 1: I've got six out right now? Yo, traps.

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Speaker 1: We put like a camera up expecting.

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Speaker 5: To see deer and hogs, right, but we ended up

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Speaker 1: It just I think it just like went bad, just

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Speaker 1: So we found this patch of per simmons, probably like

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Speaker 1: But it's got per Simmons in it. Yeah, since yodies.

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Speaker 1: we put a camera up watching the Percimon thicket with

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Speaker 1: But uh so a lot of a lot of hogs

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Speaker 1: what's interesting if you were just a walk around this place,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's hog tracks everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That is that right where every time we're walking around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you just get out of your truck

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Speaker 2: Just tell what they're nosing through and just ruin in

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Speaker 2: the ground. A lot of rooting, a lot of rooting.

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Speaker 1: You would think that hunting over here for three days

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Speaker 1: that you'd see hogs every time you sat. But we

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Speaker 1: I've got daylight pictures of hogs, probably less than five times,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know where they go. You know, when

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Speaker 1: when uh, when Europeans first came to North America, they

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Speaker 1: thought that the bears, some people did thought that bears

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Speaker 1: like their bears all over the place, and then you

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Speaker 1: know about November, they were just gone and they thought

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Speaker 1: they were like Mallard ducks, like, well, they must have

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Speaker 1: went somewhere. I'm pretty sure that these these hogs migrated

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Speaker 2: You know, isn't there a gap out here?

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Speaker 1: A gap? There's a gap right here, probably a major

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Speaker 2: That's what we call that hogs gap there. It is

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Speaker 1: That's it. Now, this is a fun place to hunt.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's awesome. It's been really cool.

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Speaker 3: And even you know, we're we're out what you say,

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Speaker 3: about three miles ish and even that's just cool to

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Speaker 3: drive through. And it's it's been you know, mining Scott's

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Speaker 1: So yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then four free range wild steers, one with a

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Speaker 1: So this is a this is a working cattle ranch,

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Speaker 1: and so they had they've they've got some stragglers out here.

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Speaker 2: We're cursed with with cattle when we're hunting.

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Speaker 3: We uh, when we would go out west the first

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Speaker 3: couple of times of Colorado, we'd be out in the

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Speaker 3: a sudden, just a beef cow, you know, because farmers

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Speaker 3: can lease the property. But I'm like, we're ten thousand

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Speaker 3: just a mookw.

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Speaker 4: You're not in a good place for a beef cow

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Speaker 2: No, no, so.

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Speaker 5: I hunted some spots where you can't lease, like you know,

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Speaker 5: there's no free range cattle, but you'll still see cows.

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Speaker 5: Like every now and then there will be just like

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're like wild horses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now i'd shoot one though, you know, National forest one,

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Speaker 1: National forest cow. Rich tell me about So you got

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Speaker 1: That's that's the hard part. I hear a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and and and I know everybody's like, well,

438
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Speaker 1: what about such and such. He's a great shot, he is,

439
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Speaker 1: And and then there's also a lot of guys that

440
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Speaker 1: document a lot of long shots and uh, and I

441
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Speaker 1: know there's probably a lot of stuff they don't show

442
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: too of getting away and not to their discredit. I

443
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Speaker 1: mean I haven't shown every deer that I've probably not

444
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Speaker 1: made a great shot on. I mean, it happens sometimes,

445
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: but my point is.

446
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Speaker 6: I try to that if I'm gonna miss, I just

447
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Speaker 6: completely completely.

448
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a blessing really or yeah, and it's also

449
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Speaker 1: a blessing that, like you guys had this on video

450
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Speaker 1: and so we were able to watch it and you

451
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: know pretty conclusively we're like, yeah, that deer was shot

452
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Speaker 1: through the backstraps.

453
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Speaker 3: And we looked for what two hour hour and a

454
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Speaker 3: half last night and then two hours this morning.

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we went far, we went far in every direction.

456
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: He is not there.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and like if you had to hit the

458
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Speaker 1: deer back, you know, that would be one direction that

459
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Speaker 1: you could hit a bad deer, and it would be

460
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Speaker 1: a bad shot. That's a mortally wounded animal if it's

461
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: passing through and it's hit anywhere in the punch or

462
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the diaphragm, obviously, and I mean, that's that's

463
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Speaker 1: an animal that we're still looking for right now, or

464
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Speaker 1: you know we would be if you had done that. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: but man, when you get any kind of peripheral shot,

466
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Speaker 1: if it's a low brisket or high up in the

467
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Speaker 1: back straps.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, so you found your arrow, found my arrow

469
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 3: covered in meat, not necessarily blood. But then we see

470
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Speaker 3: blood immediately tracked it for probably you know, fifty yards,

471
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: and then you start seeing big puddles. Yeah, we're like sweet, well,

472
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 3: then drip again, and then big puddles and then drip again.

473
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Speaker 3: Then he walked through some like kind of oak growth

474
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Speaker 3: and just blood everywhere, and then drip, drip gon and

475
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Speaker 3: we I mean we were how far how far out

476
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Speaker 3: did you was the blood where you shot?

477
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Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty ish? Okay?

478
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, aboute hundred fifty yards tops. So yeah, man,

479
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: it was you know, bad nights sleeping, and then we're

480
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Speaker 3: sitting there this morning. I'm like, all right, let's go look.

481
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Speaker 3: And then you're still a little bit optimism there, you know, like,

482
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Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, sure enough, you know it looked good blood,

483
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: but just was not there. We tried, man, but yeah,

484
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: well we still got We still got tonight tomorrow morning.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

486
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least two more hunts.

487
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

488
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: A lot could happen between now and then there's some

489
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: people that probably don't really even know what CrossFit is.

490
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: I would have been I mean I would have known

491
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: that it was like a way to work out.

492
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Speaker 3: But you just heard somebody talking about CrossFit. That's kind

493
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: of the joke is like you know, you know somebody

494
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: does cross it because they're going to tell you about crossing, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

495
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: and you know yeah.

496
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Speaker 1: I mean you kind of gave me a you said,

497
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Speaker 1: like it so taking all work.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

499
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Speaker 3: Basically, you know a guy named Greg Lassman sort of

500
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: the thing where he took running, biking, rowing, swimming, powerlifting,

501
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: which would be you know, the deadlift, bench squat and

502
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: Olympic lifting with some of the accessory lifts there, plus

503
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: body weight movements and kind of just mixed them all

504
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 3: into one thing and then just find I guess what

505
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: you would say fitness because you know, like if you

506
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: were to say what makes somebody fit, you know, is it?

507
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 3: Is it cardio respiratory endurance? Is it the person that

508
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: can lift the most, Is it the person that can

509
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 3: bit the farthest? Or is it the person that can

510
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: do all of those things? Maybe not necessarily the best

511
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: in each specialty. It's more he always said, a jack

512
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: of all trades and a master of none. And so

513
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: basically you take all those things and then high intensity

514
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: functional movements and we constantly vary it so you're ready

515
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Speaker 3: for it.

516
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Speaker 1: That's why it would be said that you were the

517
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: fittest man in the world.

518
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: By crossfits definition. And you know they I'm sure that

519
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: they copy. I think them are rebought, cross copyrighted. That

520
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: what's that the fittest on Earth really tagline? If the

521
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: person that wins the CrossFit Games by their definition, you

522
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: would be the fittest on Earth.

523
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that's true?

524
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, it's probably somebody out in

525
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: that wouldn't even right.

526
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: We've never wrestled, you know, so like we've never both

527
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 3: we've never been in a deadlist competition.

528
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Speaker 1: If I were to like wrestle grapple and beat him,

529
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: would that make me the fittest man? I think? So

530
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: let's do it right here, I promise you in my family, Uh,

531
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: I would be yeah.

532
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: I you know, I liked the Hey, he won the

533
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: CrossFit Games four times and he won it six times,

534
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: like I don't know, you know, by the.

535
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: And nobody's ever done anything like that.

536
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: Uh not that done the individual end team.

537
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: There's there's a woman right now that she's won seven times, really,

538
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: and then a guy after me, Matt, that won five times,

539
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: and so now it's kind of like ping pong and

540
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 3: other than but.

541
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Rich you were the you were like the original og. Yes,

542
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: So like when CrossFit like really came onto the scene

543
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: and they had the CrossFit Games, you were the first

544
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: guy to like, yeah, I mean a bunch.

545
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: What I would say is when it's it kind of

546
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: like started getting to that point, I was like holding

547
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: on to like what the old guard was and bringing

548
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: in the new and so I'm like this bridge kind

549
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: of gap, uh, trying to hold hold the two together

550
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: at times, you know, because it's it's turned into when

551
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: I started, and even when I was doing it, you know,

552
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: like I was working, most guys were guys and girls

553
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: were working other jobs, and now it's like turned into

554
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: a professional sporting Towards the end my last probably two

555
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: or three two years as an individual, I still owned

556
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: the gym and coached, but I wasn't working, you know,

557
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: like I wasn't working at the fire department or working

558
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: you know, for the intermural department at ten.

559
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: So as it grew, it became.

560
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: It's become more professionalized. People can make money.

561
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: The people at the top are doing it like full time,

562
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: correct and you knowing full time.

563
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've got a facility in Cookville.

564
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: We have the actual normal CrossFit Mayhem for the average.

565
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: You know, cook Billion.

566
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: And then it's also you know people we do what's

567
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 3: called drop in, So it's basically like Disneyland. People come

568
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: and work out at CrossFit now and so you didn't

569
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 3: actually get to see it when you were in and

570
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: we actually just went to the house. And I've got

571
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: that barn that I trained in a bunch too. But

572
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: then we also have the athlete facility, and so we've

573
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: got we've got a Brazilian, we've got a Russian, we've

574
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: got Australians that visit regularly. We've got all kinds of So.

575
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: Cookville, Tennessee, your gym, the Mayhem, what's Mayhem across Mayhem

576
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: is like the mecca of the world for crossman, Is

577
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: that right, Scott you you were telling.

578
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 4: Me, Yeah, I would say so. I mean in terms

579
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: of people that want to go, if you could anyone

580
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: around the world could pick one gym they want to

581
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: go visit.

582
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: People move to Cookville, Tennessee people will move.

583
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: Actually that pro and cular people. They're like, hey, I

584
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: have a remote job and I really like I want

585
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: I want to be a part of this community.

586
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: The move to Cookville.

587
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: We have incredible Stevie Stevie Goldie. They moved their entire

588
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: business from California Grant it was peak COVID. They wanted

589
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: to move somewhere Tennessee or Texas. Decided Cookville because of

590
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: partly because of Mayhem. Moved the entire pizza business and

591
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: they live in Cookville.

592
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Now, so what what's it like you walking in that rich?

593
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: Nothing nobody cares. I mean, I'm just rich, you know.

594
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Is he telling the truth?

595
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless unless there's a drop in. If there's drop ins,

596
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: then that's different. Like yeah, I'm gonna take a bunch

597
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: of pictures. But if it's normal every day, so you know,

598
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: well there's not many days where there's not drop ins.

599
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: Like I might take a picture or two with the

600
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: people that are traveling from out of town, but everybody else,

601
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm just Janis's son or richest son, honestly,

602
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: Like that's just my mom worked in like in the

603
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: restaurant kind of business for thirty years and of course

604
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: you so you grew up and I grew up in

605
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: Cook Cook Fill's home.

606
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty four years.

607
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: Now you're like the hometown. You're the proud of.

608
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: Their signing his home of Riches really.

609
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: Oh that yeah, yeah, we got to emphasize that. Dad

610
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: tries to take too much credit. He calls himself the

611
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: original Rich fron So, your dad's name is Rich. Yeah,

612
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: my dad's name is Rich. My son's name rich too.

613
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Trice, Trice is what we call him.

614
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, the gym is on Rich Frowning Way.

615
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was not my so that must be named after.

616
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: It.

617
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Just like they're actually in a meeting right now. They're

618
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: probably turning it to Froningville.

619
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: Where's the sculpture? There isn't one.

620
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: It's like in the center of the town square rocky,

621
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 6: like a rocky Most sculptures they would like be like

622
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 6: really favorable to the guy, like if he had his

623
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 6: like shirt off.

624
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Exactly, you'd be like, there's no way that guy looked

625
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: like that. With Rich, if they made his statue, they'd

626
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: be like, he pretty much looks.

627
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: Like that's where it was. Yeah, no, man, ain't Cook Bill.

628
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Hey, let me tell you why this is relevant to

629
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 1: all you out there, like, is that I met I

630
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: met you like two or three months ago, And man,

631
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: I hate it when people like say, man, I didn't

632
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: even know who you were before I met you, Like

633
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: people say, I mean, I've heard people say that to

634
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: like Steve Ronell or something, and it's like what planet?

635
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you from?

636
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: But this is gonna actually be this is going to

637
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: be endearing to our cause by me saying that, yeah,

638
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known. I just not in the CrossFit world.

639
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean you might think I was, you know, but

640
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: you are now and rich. I would have never even

641
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: picked you out other than your buff right right. I

642
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't like your Your demeanor is just incredibly humble. I've

643
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: got really you didn't care that I didn't really know

644
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: anything about your story, and some people would have.

645
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal is all I do is work out,

646
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: you know, Like anybody that's like, oh you know he

647
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: says stuff like that, I'm like, man, I just found

648
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: something that people enjoyed watching and I got to make

649
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: a living out of it, you know, Like it's it's

650
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm not any better. I've met people that are better

651
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: than me and other things, and so I'm just like, hey,

652
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: it's you know, and part of that probably goes back

653
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: to the faith aspect. And and like I said, my parents,

654
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: both of my parents are you know, that's just what

655
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: you do, right, You just do what you're supposed to do.

656
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: My whole family's like that. And you know, my wife

657
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: does not think that I'm that cool. You know, well,

658
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: you especially don't.

659
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: Especially from the outside, not being in it like you

660
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: would you would feel like, uh, well, the sports world.

661
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to be in the sports

662
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: world to know that it's full of ego. Oh yeah,

663
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean anything's full of ego, honey, worlds can be

664
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: full of ego. But I mean that's what it stood

665
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: out to me. After I met you. I was like, man,

666
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: this guy's not anything like what you would might think.

667
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: If that wasn't a surprised to anybody that I talked to,

668
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, yeah, Riches incredible guy.

669
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: Well I hope that.

670
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: But one of the cool things about CrossFit is but

671
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's not as tough as they think he is.

672
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: I wrestled him.

673
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: One of the cool things about CrossFit and winning the

674
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: games is you may win overall, but you lost a

675
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: bunch of events in there, you know, like you know, there's.

676
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Could be somebody beat you and they're telling their grandkids

677
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: about it.

678
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: Hey, I beat him on one workout, right, And I

679
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: get it all the time, like, oh, you know, first round,

680
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: I beat you on that workout.

681
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, the workout is five rounds, you know

682
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: or whatever. Just local people even.

683
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: But that would totally be me.

684
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, me too.

685
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: And so you know, it's it's it's I just work

686
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: out for a living and got to do something really cool,

687
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: and you know, I get to provide for my family

688
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: for doing something that I love.

689
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: And I've met a lot of really cool people.

690
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: You know, I've kind of had this epiphany the other

691
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: day where you know, I've got a good friend.

692
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: He's held George J.

693
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: Webb like fifty or forty five, mid forties, mid forties,

694
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: and he's like a school teacher and just started kind

695
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: of showing up to my garage through a friend of

696
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: a friend and now he's competing in the master's division

697
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: and he's getting pretty good. And it's just cool to

698
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: see those like friendships and you know, relationships you've made

699
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: along the way, which I'm sure you've done the same

700
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: with hunting, Like.

701
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: There's just cool. I've been in the last couple of years.

702
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: I've been able to be this part of this really

703
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: cool CrossFit community, and you know, it gets a bad

704
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: name at times because you have turds in every punch bowl.

705
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: And then I've been a part of the mountain biking

706
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: community because I've done the lead bill one hundred mountain

707
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: Bike the last couple of years. And then now we're

708
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: part of the hunting space and there's really positive and

709
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: uplifting people in all of them.

710
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 2: And then there's you know, there's some jerks in all

711
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: of them. So it's just cool.

712
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's that's really cool. To go back a

713
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: little bit to the training stuff. Scott said this earlier

714
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: to me. He said that you you said people were

715
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: training like fifteen years ago, they were doing like one

716
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: CrossFit workout a day, like I'll be at a really

717
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: intense workout like training for games, and like these were

718
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: the best guys in the world and they would do

719
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: like one big training session a day to train and

720
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: they were like hardcore. And then Rich came along and

721
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: he started doing two sessions a day and It was

722
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: almost like this exploration of like, wait a minute, can

723
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: you can a human even do that?

724
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: We well, so it started off Rich and Darren did

725
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: two workouts and they didn't die from it.

726
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you people really thought you might die.

727
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: I specifically remember a CrossFit documentary I believe it was

728
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: called Every Second Count, Every Second Count, and Tony Budding

729
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: that got one of the guys that kind of kind

730
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: of started the media side of the CrossFit games. Uh

731
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: looks at the camera and was like, if you know,

732
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: if people work out multiple times a day, they could die,

733
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: And you're just like wow, you know, cause the the

734
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: idea was that the intensity piece of CrossFit is the

735
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: is what you know, draws people or what people I

736
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: guess the suffering part of it right, which sounds weird

737
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 3: and and and kind of crazy, but you know, so

738
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: you hit this really hard workout and me and Darren,

739
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: my cousin who I started CrossFit with, we both while

740
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: while we were trying to run a gym, we also

741
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: had a second job at another like kind of fitness,

742
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: like a corporate fitness place, and so we're sitting there

743
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 3: we did a work out that morning, and we're we're

744
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: watching some CrossFit YouTube video and.

745
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, that's a cool workout. I want to

746
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: go try it and see if we die, you know.

747
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 3: Likes you know, we we knew we weren't weren't gonna die,

748
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: but you're like, could we get rabdough from that?

749
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: You know, like because that was the big thing is like,

750
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: is that like a buzzword and that's gonna be uncle rap.

751
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: There was a big like push back in you know,

752
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: probably eight to ten years ago that like the anti

753
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: CrossFit people were like, oh, you know, they're giving people

754
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: rabdo and they're gonna die, you know, like you know,

755
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: they're hurting people and and putting people in in the hospital.

756
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: And I mean it happens, but it happens in a

757
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: bunch of different areas.

758
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Rival other kind of worker the power yeah, yeah.

759
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: The powerlifters, the weightlifters, the bodybuilders, that type of stuff.

760
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: But you got to watch, you know.

761
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: And so yeah, we did two workouts and we were like, oh, okay,

762
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: so we can why not you know, trying to walk

763
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: up the next day and still I'm sure, but I'm

764
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: all right, you know.

765
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: And so but from there, the envelope was pushed to

766
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: the point of what it is now where people have

767
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: to work out five, six, seven hours a day. It's

768
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: a full time yeah, to be across the games athlete, and.

769
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: I ruined it for everybody.

770
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: Well, I think like the most famous or the most

771
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: famous phrase and like the way to sum it up

772
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 4: what you did was Jason when he said what's Rich doing?

773
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote it on one of the guys that

774
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: I competed with as a good friend of mine. He

775
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: wrote on his wall in his garage, what's Rich doing?

776
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: So he would do more.

777
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: All the competitors knew, Like he'd go out and do

778
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: rowing intervals at ten o'clock at night in the garage

779
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: because he was sitting there stressed out that someone might

780
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: beat him. So that was kind of how I think

781
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: the sport evolved as quickly as it did, was him

782
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: being like, actually, I can just keep doing more workouts

783
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: all day long.

784
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: So Rich, that's pretty what years were you? Did you win? So?

785
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: I started in two thousand and nine, like July two

786
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, went to my first CrossFit competition in

787
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: would have been February or March of twenty ten. I

788
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: ended up getting second in twenty ten, one, twenty eleven, twelve,

789
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen on a team, we won, fifteen sixteen, we

790
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: got second again on seventeen.

791
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: Don't talk about that.

792
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: Then eighteen nineteen, COVID year, twenty one, twenty two all team.

793
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was on the team. You go.

794
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: It's same time as the CrossFit games, as the individuals,

795
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: and it started out as three men and three women

796
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: on a team, and they would just and so the

797
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: whole idea behind CrossFit is you don't know what you're

798
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: showing up for.

799
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: So you don't know what you're training for.

800
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: You might find out a week before, you might find

801
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: out as you walk on the floor.

802
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: It was too late to do much by the time, and.

803
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: So you know, they did the same thing with the

804
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: teams where you know, and but they cut it back

805
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: from three men and three women to two men and

806
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: two women in twenty eighteen. I think, I think nineteen

807
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: whatever it was eighteen, and so it's way better. I

808
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: think that way. But you know it, are you still competing? No? Yes,

809
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: I still work out way too much, just because I

810
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: enjoy working out. I you know, I have this goal

811
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: of I gotta let all the athletes know that.

812
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: Hey, every once in a while, the old man still

813
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: got it.

814
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 6: I need to do get a bonus of old man

815
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 6: strength once you started back in the year trying to

816
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: find it, because it's actually regressed since I worked. I

817
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: worked in the school where Clay's wife worked in all

818
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 6: the teenage boys they want to arm wrestle, Oh yeah,

819
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 6: and you just slam them down, and I just push

820
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 6: them away and say, come back when you're a man.

821
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Come back when you're a man. You're you're the gatekeeper

822
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: to man. That's right.

823
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: And so you know, I want to be able to

824
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: just be functional if I need to.

825
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: I need as blame as it sounds.

826
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: I got to look good with my shirt off, because

827
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: program that's what sells programming.

828
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: I want to be able to, like.

829
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: That's not only been said on Bear Grease maybe handfull

830
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: of the times.

831
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: Right here, put it down, mark it down. I want

832
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: to be able to do hard things and never question

833
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: like can I do it right? And and you know,

834
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: like we'll do a twenty four out. We did a

835
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: twenty four hour row a couple of weeks ago. It's

836
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: a charity. We do a twenty four hour mountain bike.

837
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: I did Leadville the last two years, that one hundred

838
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 3: mile mountain bike race that's in all above ten thousand feet,

839
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: so I have to have something to train for, some

840
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: type of target.

841
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 6: Was it a was it a relief when you stop

842
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 6: doing that high level competition?

843
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Or was it did you miss it? Uh?

844
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: Parts of me misses it? Parts of me just I

845
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: honestly I hated competing, the like dread of building up

846
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: to it, just the like you know how bad it's

847
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: gonna hurt. There's the expectation. But then as soon as

848
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: three two one go happens, everything else like as weird

849
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: as it sounds, as you know, as cliche as it like,

850
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: everything else slows down, and you know, like there's loud music,

851
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: there's all this kind of stuff going on. But I

852
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 3: couldn't tell you. I can maybe tell you two songs

853
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 3: that have ever been played at the CrossFit games.

854
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: Songs about remember the name?

855
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: And then can you can you sing it?

856
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: No? You don't want to cross?

857
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: And then there's what's uh is it Gangsters in Paris

858
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: or something like that? Oh yeah, it's something else but

859
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: the edited version, but it's definitely not edited acrossfit competition.

860
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: But those two songs, for some reason, I can remember

861
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: the exact event, the one with The second song I

862
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: said was that it's called the Down in Back Chipper.

863
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: We were in Carson, California. It's in the tennis stadium,

864
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: it's at night. There's just like like a Friday night

865
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: light football feel to it. And then the last one

866
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: was my last year as an individual. Kind of the

867
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: event that like kicked off kind of the comeback is

868
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: called Midline March, and it was in the stadium that

869
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: was remember the name. I don't know why those two

870
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: memories with those songs are the only songs that I

871
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: ever remember being played. You know, we probably probably heard

872
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 3: hundreds of songs or thousands even, and so I missed

873
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: pieces and parts of it, but I don't miss the

874
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: stress of it, if that makes sense.

875
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: I think the part that was tough for you at

876
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: the end, from my perspective, is the expectation that you

877
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: have to win. Yeah, it would be like coming out

878
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 4: here and if if you didn't shoot one hundred eight

879
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 4: inch deer, they're like, well why did you you know even.

880
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: Come out here, we would win. It was relief. There

881
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: was no like celebration, you know, it was just like

882
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: you were because you were expected, because you're expected to win,

883
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: and if you know, if something was tough, and so yeah,

884
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: ten years or twelve years of that, you're just like,

885
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm good now. So you felt like Simon Biles, Yeah, basically, yeah,

886
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's now.

887
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: How does Simone feel? Some of us don't know about Simone.

888
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 6: She felt the pressure of having to be the best

889
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 6: every time she stepped on the floor, even though she

890
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: was gymnastics.

891
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not in the Olympics.

892
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: World Olympic gymnastics. Yeah, she's like the goat. Yeah she's awesome,

893
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: she's incredible. But yeah, I mean it would it would

894
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: be like that. But I was also.

895
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: Thirty six years old and my body was, you know,

896
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: not that it was failing me, but trying to like

897
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: push through stuff. You're like, I don't have to do

898
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 3: that anymore, you know, like, and so I'll still do

899
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: We do a local competition in Michigan in Muskegan, Michigan

900
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: is called Fresh Coast, And I'll do some charity like

901
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: partner competitions.

902
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm not individual.

903
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, no part of me ever wants to work

904
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: out by myself in front of people like a dancing bear.

905
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Ever. Again, I'll partner somebody or do whatever.

906
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: So you know, I still still work out, Like I'm,

907
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: you know, getting ready for something even though I'm not.

908
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: But who knows, one day I might do something, you know.

909
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, yeah, so interesting.

910
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 6: I like maybe you could be like, I'm doing all

911
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: this working out because I know Joe's moving next summer

912
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 6: and I got to move this.

913
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: You got to help him.

914
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see. I want I want to

915
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: rich to help me drag my buck out.

916
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: Wanted to see what.

917
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: It would feel like for the fittest man in the world.

918
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Have the other antler going is that one of the

919
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: events that they do. I could drag a sled. We

920
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: do that a lot to prep for whatever we're doing

921
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: elk or. It's a it's a unique body movement and

922
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: stressor to drag a buck it really it's a weird

923
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: as you're you're you're like, you know, what's worse actually

924
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: dragging a dough because there's nothing to hang on.

925
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: To hold on to the you know, it's even worse

926
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: dragging a bear. Dragging a bear.

927
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: That's right, Well, that's why you don't drag bears.

928
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: I know.

929
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: But if you if your knife skills aren't as good

930
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: and you that's kind of the first time you've ever

931
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: killed something like that by yourself without a friend that

932
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: knows what they're doing, you drag the bear out, you know, or.

933
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: If you're in Eastern Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, that was about

934
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: I was about to say something like kind of like, yeah,

935
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: you don't drag bears. But then in East Tennessee, the

936
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: man that I know that I personally know that has

937
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: killed more bears than any person I've ever known, they

938
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: drag every bear out they killed. We were in there

939
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: and river killed the bear that was like a three

940
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: talking about Roy Clark in East Tennessee. Yeah, and it

941
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: was like a rough hike down there, like steep, I

942
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: mean like we were sliding all the way down and

943
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: then it was like a half mile.

944
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: In a creek bed to like a road. And they

945
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 5: were like, we're dragging it.

946
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: That sounds like Colorado?

947
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: Does it sounds like exactly what we did in Colorado.

948
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. They have a big cultural thing there to get

949
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: it out whole, Like they want to put it on

950
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: their dog box and they want to be able to

951
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: weigh it. Because I was with them the first time

952
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I was with them and we killed a bear way back,

953
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean it was like black, dark

954
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: and raining, and there were just a few of us

955
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: that made it back to this tree and shot this bear. Well,

956
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we shot it in the daylight,

957
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: but like by the time we were dragging it out

958
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: messing around, its dark, and it wasn't that big of

959
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: a bear. And I was like, boys, we'll quarter this

960
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: thing up and each of this will carry a piece.

961
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: This is no big deal.

962
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: And they were like, say, what boy, where are you from.

963
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: Put your knife down.

964
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: Young boy. We're gonna drag this thing out.

965
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: We'll just pretend that's why we did it.

966
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why we did it.

967
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: Was like you were from eas Tennessee, well, eastern middle Tennessee.

968
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: We're right at the edge, you know, Cumberland Plateau.

969
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: I I've got a I got a serious question for you.

970
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: That's uh that I think it's really relevant. So if

971
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: somebody were to use the phrase idea, that would mean

972
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot of different things to different people. So I'll

973
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: just like categorize identity as humans on planet Earth are

974
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: constantly trying to kind of figure out who they are

975
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: based upon their context. And we typically in some ways,

976
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: like humans are complex things because we do have this

977
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: like physical life, but we also have this like inner

978
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: spiritual life that's very real and all humans regardless of

979
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: like what you think about religion or anything. I mean,

980
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: like we're quite different than than animals.

981
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

982
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: And so my question is going to be, so you

983
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: can be preparing for it, is how do you excel?

984
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give I'm gonna qualify it a little

985
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: bit more, but I'm gonna ask you the questions to

986
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: be ready rich. This is like a CrossFit game where

987
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: you get the workout like right when it starts it

988
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: is now, but you've been training for this one. The

989
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: question is how do you not take on the external

990
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: identity of the things that you do? And how do

991
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: you have a more healthy real identity in in like

992
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: a spiritual sense and more of a and more of

993
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: a who am I as a man? Who am I

994
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: called to be? Who am as like inside my inside

995
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: my family? Because people typically equate themselves and inside a

996
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: hunting it's like that, like like people take a lot

997
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: of identity inside of hunting. And the reason that's a problem,

998
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: Like you might be like, well what's the problem with that?

999
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: And people would look at me and be like, well,

1000
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: pay you identify as a hunter, I absolutely do. But

1001
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I but I would say that my the core of

1002
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: my identity really who I am when I close my eyes.

1003
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: If it's based around this external thing that I do,

1004
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: it ultimately is going to fail because there's gonna come

1005
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: a day when I can't hunt do it. There's gonna

1006
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: come a day when I'm not good at hunting and

1007
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: I don't kill it. Like what happens when like this

1008
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: thing like kind of lets me down, And that's when

1009
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: you got to have like this real identity of who

1010
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: you are. So with you as accomplished as you are externally,

1011
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I hear you talk a lot about how that did

1012
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: not become your identity, right, how do you do that?

1013
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna weave back and tell you kind of

1014
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: where this all started. So twenty ten, I, you know,

1015
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 3: had just finished being a firefighter, ex college baseball player,

1016
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: one of thirty two first cousins on my mom's side,

1017
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: twenty five or boys. Everything's a competition, everything's a thump

1018
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: your chest, you know, like, you know, be a man,

1019
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: you know, be you know, show what you can do, right,

1020
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 3: go to the cross of the games, and really with

1021
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: no expectation of even qualifying I win when one of

1022
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: the qualifiers, go to the next stage, thinking all right,

1023
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: if I can at least, you know, do a good

1024
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: job here and set myself up for maybe next year

1025
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: making the CASS Games. End up actually winning that regionals

1026
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: what they called it, went sectionals in regionals. Then I

1027
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: went to the CrossFit Games and I'm in first place

1028
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: going into the final three events. They pull eighteen of

1029
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: us six men, six women or sorry three or eighteen men,

1030
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 3: eighteen women, three heats of six and six and pull

1031
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: us out, put us in a room, take your cell

1032
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: phones away, take everything away, no communication. They pull you

1033
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: out six people at a time, alternating six men, six women,

1034
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: And I think, I don't even remember if it was that.

1035
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: I've tried to block this whole thing out of my head,

1036
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: but I don't even know what how many points I'm

1037
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: in the lead at this point. It's not many. It's

1038
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: pretty close, but I'm like, all right, my whole goal

1039
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: here was not to get last, and maybe I'll win.

1040
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: This thing is twenty five thousand dollars, I'll be able

1041
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: to me and my wife are getting married.

1042
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm getting At that point, I was engaged.

1043
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: It was gonna get married next year, and I'm like

1044
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: all right, you know, like, hey, it's a good start, right,

1045
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: And so we're in this room and don't really know

1046
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: anybody I'm new to kind of the whole deal, and

1047
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: people just keep disappearing. You're hearing crowd noise because we're

1048
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: in the the stadium base. It really feels like what

1049
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: I feel like the Gladiators felt like without the Lions

1050
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: and tigers. But at this point you don't know if

1051
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: there are lions and tigers out there and exactly. So

1052
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: you walk out on the floor. The traditional thing with CrossFit.

1053
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: I here's the deal is I sweat a lot, so

1054
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: I take my shirt off so I don't waist his shirt.

1055
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm taking my shirt off. Everybody's doing it.

1056
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: As we're walking on the floor, the guy who started

1057
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: the cross of a games, Dave castro X, Navy seal

1058
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: not known for his bedside manner, looks at us and says,

1059
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: put your effort shirt back on. It's pretty hot out there. Okay,

1060
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: what are we doing? You know, like, what are the

1061
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: some something on fire?

1062
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: You know? So we walk out on the floor.

1063
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: They lead us six out and he goes, all right,

1064
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: workout is I think it was thirty push ups, climb

1065
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: this twelve foot wall with you know's a rope open

1066
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: over twenty one overhead squats, three rounds, three to one go.

1067
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: Everybody's like what. Somebody drops down, starts doing push up.

1068
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: So that's the first workout. He had seven minutes to finish,

1069
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: and like a lamb led to slaughter, I go as

1070
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: hard as I can. Only person that finished that first

1071
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: workout didn't. On the other side of that wall. There's

1072
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 3: another workout, and then after that workout there's another workout,

1073
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: and so there's three workouts and three separate scores, and

1074
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: so I win that first one. I'm basically drunk at

1075
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: this point. I'm like, what's going on. They're like, oh,

1076
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: the next workouts here, and so you go to do

1077
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: that one. No idea what even that workout still is

1078
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: to this day. It was with toes de bar and

1079
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: ground overhead. The next workout you do burpies where you

1080
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: got on touch your chest, go up over the wall,

1081
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: and then you climb a rope, growing up, climb a

1082
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: rope a thousand times, but always no hands right or

1083
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: no feet sorry, no feet, no legs because my dad

1084
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: says that was for sissies. And so you'd done all

1085
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: these workouts and then I'm watching these guys go up

1086
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: and down these ropes and the ropes and they're using

1087
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: their feet and I'm so just messed up. It's I

1088
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: think they did tested the floors, like one hundred and

1089
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: twenty one hundred and thirty degrees or something like that

1090
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: on the floor. You know, it's probably ambient one hundred

1091
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: and so you're just like, what's going on.

1092
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to climb this rope. Can't get up, it,

1093
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: can't get up it.

1094
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: There's people taking their shoelaces off of their shoes trying

1095
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: to show me how to wrap my feet from the crowd,

1096
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: you know, because it's pretty like, uh, grassroots is yeah,

1097
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: grass grass roots ish at this point.

1098
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I'm just like whatever.

1099
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: And so I get enough muster, enough courage, get up

1100
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 3: without my feet, touch the cross beam at twenty feet

1101
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: and then woom straight down fall and so I end

1102
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 3: up getting up two more times. Finish, they pull us

1103
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 3: off the floor. We know nothing, pull us off the floor.

1104
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: We have to go drug test for an hour. You

1105
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: don't have to peek because after you as soon as

1106
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: you finish, they'll they'll at this point, they only did

1107
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: it after Now they do it intermittent. I've been blood tested,

1108
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 3: I've been blood tested, I've been he tested.

1109
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Slip into the bathroom.

1110
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: Like yeah something, who knows, and so we go into

1111
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: drug tests and probably forty five minutes later they do

1112
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: the awards ceremony. Still told nothing, like, I don't know

1113
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: what's happened, right, So we come out and I see

1114
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: on the big check. My name's not on the big check.

1115
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: So that's how I find out that I'd gotten second place.

1116
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: Tell you all that. You know, everybody's like, oh, that's awesome.

1117
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 3: You got second place the first time I was supposed

1118
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: to win.

1119
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: For me, it was like.

1120
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: The drug pulled out right because I'd built up, you know,

1121
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: and I'd failed, and so, you know, not in any

1122
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: way was it Like. I wasn't like super depressed, but

1123
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: I was like, man, what am I doing my life? Like,

1124
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: you know, we kind of owned this gym, but you know,

1125
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: what what am I trying to do? And so I,

1126
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: the head strength and conditioning coach at Tennessee Tech, offered

1127
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: me a graduate assistant spot and I was like sure, yeah,

1128
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's what I want to do, right,

1129
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: you know, like I just finished the fire department. Plan

1130
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: was to get a master's and then come back to

1131
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: the fire department and do that. But I'm like what

1132
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: there was just there was a hole, right, And so

1133
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: my whole life, my I always joked that my Grandma

1134
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: Violet has a direct line to God, like she the

1135
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: woman is incredible. Both my grandma's, my grandpa's. My whole

1136
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: family is just faith driven. But it was more.

1137
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: For me.

1138
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: It was like something I had to do and out

1139
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: of like necessity of like hey, God, how can you

1140
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: help me? You know, like never like what can I

1141
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: do for you? And so I had a really cool

1142
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: chip who was the head strength and conditioning coach, invited

1143
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: me to a Bible study and so we started reading Romans.

1144
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: And then I had another buddy that he asked me

1145
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: a question. He's like, if you you were to die today,

1146
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: would you go to Heaven? And I was like, yeah, absolutely,

1147
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: I believe in God, you know, and I believe Jesus

1148
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: died for it. But I was just not living that

1149
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: life and went back started reading Matthew in the Gospels

1150
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: and went Matthew Mark Luke, you know, kept reading Romans,

1151
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, you know, Jesus got baptized.

1152
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: When he was thirty. I'm twenty four.

1153
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: I think at the time, I was baptized in the

1154
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: Catholic Church, but we kind of like when we moved

1155
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: to Tennessee, Catholic Church isn't big in the South, and

1156
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: so we Baptist Presbyterian. But it was never never an

1157
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: identity for me, right, it was like if I went

1158
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: to my Bible, it was like, all right, what can

1159
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: you give me God that I need today? Or you know,

1160
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: like you know there's something there, But it was never

1161
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 3: that relationship and I'm like, oh man, there's like there's

1162
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: so much more to this. And I say all that

1163
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: to like, you know, my whole life was whatever I

1164
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 3: was doing. I was trying to succeed in that because

1165
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, like I could make people proud

1166
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: of me, and that was my identity.

1167
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: And that's who Rich was. Like he's a competitor, he's

1168
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: all these things. But like.

1169
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: What I've found was that my life, you know, in Christ,

1170
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: and so my identity is in Christ. So whatever He's done,

1171
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: like my all the gifts that I've been given, I

1172
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: feel like my way to give back is to glorify God,

1173
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 3: and so I got the tattoo Galatians six fourteen, and

1174
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: that's may. I never boast in anything except for the

1175
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: Cross of the Lord Jesus Christ, which has been crucified

1176
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: to me and out of the world. And so for me,

1177
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: it's I could compete from there, you know. So I

1178
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: always joke that, like I'm you know, the next year

1179
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: at the Cross of the Games, you know, i'd won.

1180
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: I think I got second in the open, which is

1181
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: this big, you know, like they switched the whole season.

1182
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: But then he went to regionals, won my regional.

1183
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 3: I was good to go go to the Cross at Games,

1184
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: and I'm going to the bus to the first event

1185
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 3: and it was like a swim, a run in the sand,

1186
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: and something else. And I'm like, read Jeremiah twenty nine

1187
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: to eleven, you know, for I know the plans I

1188
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: have for you, declares the Lord plans to prospery and

1189
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: keep you and give you hope in the future. And

1190
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, we're good, right, And then I

1191
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: get twenty seventh on that event and I'm like, all right.

1192
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: God, maybe you're trying to show me I'm a humble loser.

1193
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: But it was like it was a cool that I

1194
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: could actually disconnect from it and I was okay, right,

1195
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: and I knew that my whoever I was in CrossFit

1196
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: or whoever I was.

1197
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: In life, it it.

1198
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: Means something, but it doesn't mean as much as what

1199
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: Christ did and what He's done. And I could compete

1200
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: from this place that hey, I'm gonna be okay, Like

1201
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm still a competitor and I hate losing, Like talk

1202
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: to anybody, like, I'm not a pleasant person to be

1203
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: around when I lose. But I could still in that

1204
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: moment compete from a good spot. And then when it

1205
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: was all over a couple of weeks later, and where's off,

1206
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: I'm okay, right, you know, I don't think I hate

1207
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 3: the whole like, well, Christians are soft, you know, they're

1208
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: not competitors or you know, like the Bible tells you

1209
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: to you know, like love your neighbor. I still love

1210
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: my neighbor, but I want to beat you, you know,

1211
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: like and so you know, and.

1212
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: Then there you I love my neighborhood.

1213
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: I still want to beat you.

1214
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: I'll beat you in a push up contest any day.

1215
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do.

1216
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: And uh so, yeah, so that long, long winded answer

1217
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 3: to say, my identity is in Christ. And then now

1218
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: it's like with my kids, that's what I want them

1219
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 3: to know that, you know, what you're gonna do is cool,

1220
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: But those things in the world are going to fail you, right,

1221
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: Like those things can be taken away in an instant,

1222
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: you know.

1223
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's the that's the

1224
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: beauty of of I mean, really the crux of the

1225
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: of the Christian faith is belief in Christ. But it's

1226
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: it's it's belief in something something bigger, greater than us,

1227
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Like we're part of something so much bigger, and that

1228
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: decentralizes it's designed to decentralize us, right, you know where

1229
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: where the world, in everything even biologically on this planet

1230
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: in a way kind of tries to to me, to

1231
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: isolate you. Yeah, me, me, me, you know, and so and.

1232
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I don't fight that, oh You're still

1233
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: like it's a daily battle, you know, like it's it's

1234
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: you know, we have faith, family, fitness, service, that mayhem

1235
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: and so for me, that's like our core values. And

1236
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: so for me, faith, family fitness are the main like

1237
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: every day you know, like service is a huge part

1238
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: of who we are. But every day it's faith, family, fitness,

1239
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: and like I try to have a short memory when

1240
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: I do good, and I try to have a short

1241
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: memory when I do bad. But I try to be

1242
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: as objective as possible every day and kind of like

1243
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: how did you do right? And just try to piece

1244
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: those two together right consistently.

1245
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: That's that's powerful, man, That's great.

1246
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1247
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: There's when it comes to I mean is when it

1248
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: comes to faith, it's as real as you as a

1249
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: person makes it, you know, I mean like in terms

1250
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: of and I know for me, man, I mean, my

1251
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: my biblically based faith is like it's like powerful stuff

1252
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: to me, like absolutely the pinnacle of everything that I do,

1253
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: not not some like religious external And if you're if

1254
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: you're not, like if you've never I don't know if

1255
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't vibe with you, it can when you hear

1256
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: people talk about religion that it can be like a

1257
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's just not for me, it's not, man, No,

1258
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it very very real. And that's

1259
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: what I sense inside of you is that this is

1260
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: like a real thing, Like this is not just like

1261
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: an external check box of like I wanna.

1262
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: It's like any other relationship right. So you know, you

1263
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: get more into a relationship the more you put into it.

1264
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: And it's the same thing with that relationship with Christ,

1265
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: I think, you know, like if I'm in the word

1266
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: every day, you try to be in every day, you know,

1267
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 3: Like there's days where it you know, I get busy,

1268
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 3: right having three kids, young kids, but I try to

1269
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: or listen to worship music or whatever. There's something that's

1270
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 3: usually being told somehow right to you, and so I

1271
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: just there's day those days, I know are noticeably better

1272
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: than days where I'm not doing what I should be doing.

1273
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 2: Right.

1274
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you know, people, it does you get

1275
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: people turned off, you know, like I you know, you'll

1276
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: see comments like, oh, there you go talking about the

1277
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: Bible again. I'm like, man, I've just seen what it's

1278
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: done for me, and I've seen what's done for a

1279
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: lot of other people. And you know, religion and faith

1280
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: technically aren't the same different things, but they are to me,

1281
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, like religion is laws and rules and what

1282
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: we've kind of like what people have attached to the Bible, right,

1283
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 3: you know, And so man, it's just it's it's done

1284
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: amazing things for me and my family and my life.

1285
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: And so I just tried to tell as many people

1286
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: as I can about how awesome it is.

1287
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, good Bear, I told you, I asked you earlier

1288
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: if you had any questions for rich anything. Hm hmm.

1289
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 1: Well I'll swing back around to the first question I asked,

1290
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: is what did you get your degree? All the way

1291
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: back swept this all time.

1292
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: It's like, thanks, damn.

1293
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Speaker 1: This is this. This is what it's like having a

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Speaker 1: podcaster for a dad. When you ask a question, I

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Speaker 1: got this.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back Bear. Exercise siense, Yeah my degree was

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Speaker 2: an exercise sise.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually like I think I'm six or.

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Speaker 1: No wonder in the world science degree.

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Learned it from a book.

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Speaker 5: My second question, and probably most important question push ups

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Speaker 5: real push ups or push up and see on the

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Speaker 5: on the internet.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, tell you.

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Speaker 1: What would be would be?

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Speaker 3: You know, you see guys in the NFL or whatever

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: when they're like, get down and do push ups when

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01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: they miss a tackle or something. But they're just like,

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Speaker 3: you know, just bending your arms with us it's chest

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: touches the ground and then full the top. But you also,

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Speaker 3: push up is a hard movement to judge I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's a good judgment movement because you know what

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01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: you've seen all seen the people where like a push

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Speaker 3: up to me is like straight line from your heels

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Speaker 3: to the back of your head.

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Speaker 2: But everybody's seen people that like their.

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01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: Butt kind of stays and the same, and so it's

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Speaker 3: just like that it's such a weird I like personally,

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Speaker 3: and and I'll probably get a ton of like hate

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Speaker 3: from the crossfitters. I think a strict pull up competition

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: is actually better better test strength, better test because grip

1324
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Speaker 3: strength is actually the one thing that they say is

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Speaker 3: a direct strength, a direct col I don't know, is

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Speaker 3: a direct cool core to longevity in life.

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Speaker 5: I don't know really, Yeah, so what do you think

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Speaker 5: about the like I always see people making, yeah, kipping pullups, man,

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Speaker 5: I think there's a place for it, because that's you're

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Speaker 5: gonna see the note you don't you don't get on

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Speaker 5: the CrossFit interwebs, but one of the main knocks about

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Speaker 5: CrossFit is kipping pull ups.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, they tear me up. I meant.

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Speaker 3: You. So basically, the idea is you're supposed to increase

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Speaker 3: your work capacity across time, so like be able to

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Speaker 3: do more wraps faster. So if we are to just

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Speaker 3: say a pull up is arms locked out at the

1338
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: bottom and your chin over the bar. As long as

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: you do that, the movement standard has met. People have

1340
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 3: figured out how to initiate some hip from gymnasts from

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01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: you know, uh like, so you you initiate some hip

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Speaker 3: drive into.

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Speaker 1: It, like you would, but as long as you're doing

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Speaker 1: the so I there's a place for it.

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Speaker 2: Kipping.

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01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: There's a place for kipping in competition, I think for

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01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: everyday people, for people in the gym, even for myself,

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Speaker 3: I don't kip a ton, and if I'm doing a

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Speaker 3: competition event, I'll throw in some kipping or if I'm

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Speaker 3: getting ready for a competition, I'll throw in some kipping

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Speaker 3: pull ups only to prepare for that competition, because it

1352
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 3: is and that's where you see a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 2: It looks violent, it is.

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Speaker 3: And it isn't like it looks like depending on if

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Speaker 3: you do it the correct way, like there is a

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Speaker 3: lot of like fall off at the bottom. But I

1357
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: mean you look at Olympic lifting, so what some people

1358
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: would say like a shoulder press, so you got a

1359
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: bar on your shoulder and you just press it up right,

1360
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Speaker 3: So why is it okay for them, like in a

1361
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: jerk to dip and press that's allowed?

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Speaker 2: Why is that not allowed in the pull up?

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Speaker 3: I see the like general population should not be doing that,

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Speaker 3: but in a competition yea.

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Speaker 2: So how many pull up?

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Speaker 3: The most kipping pull ups I've ever done? I think

1367
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Speaker 3: was eighty four in a row. But that's it's about

1368
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: straight just straight up kip it or straight strict pull ups.

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Speaker 3: Thirty two or thirty one I think is the most

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Speaker 3: I've ever done.

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Speaker 1: Break Are you familiar with Truet Haynes cam?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, yep.

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Speaker 1: What's what's the deal?

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: He can do a lot of pull ups? Man?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's like he did I think, like, uh

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Speaker 1: at least eight thousand pull ups in a in a.

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Speaker 2: Like Yeah he was.

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: He was like the Guinness Book of World Records for

1379
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: him and Goggins went back and forth.

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Speaker 4: Well then I think he got it true true.

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Speaker 1: It was as I understood that he was like the

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01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: world he held the record world pay. Yeah, and somebody

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: heard about it and they were like, oh, shoot, I

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01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: can take eight thousand.

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Speaker 2: What's that? That's crazy. That's a lot. But that's something

1386
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: you got to train for you know, like your body.

1387
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Speaker 6: If you just want many would it take me to

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 6: get up to eight thousand pull ups on?

1389
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Speaker 1: Probably a couple you may have missed your time, Josh,

1390
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: I passed. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: So well the answer is, I don't know on push

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Speaker 2: ups ballpark it fifty ish, Maybe I don't know real

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01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: push ups. Yeah, I've got a.

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Speaker 3: Competition, yes, but but then we're going to judge them

1395
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: to the standard, you know, like to the frownings and

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: so I man, I've got all kind of you know.

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Speaker 3: That's and that's one of the knocks on CrossFit is

1398
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 3: it's dangerous, you know, like getting off the couch is dangerous, right,

1399
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: So if you're doing it in a a local affiliate

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01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: or a gym where you know good coaching, it's it's

1401
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: pretty safe, you know, like if you've got somebody watching,

1402
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: you can drop your ego at the door. What's so

1403
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: good about it is the movement's changed so much that

1404
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: you're doing different things versus just running. You know, like

1405
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: running has one of the highest injury rates because it's

1406
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: so repetitive and it's the same thing over and over.

1407
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: But what I did for years was I put my

1408
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: body through the ringer right. So anything you do in excess,

1409
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: anything you do at a high level, takes a toll.

1410
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: So like my rotator cuf, I shoot left handed, but

1411
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm not left handed because my rotator cuff is trash

1412
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: on my left side. So it's you know, push ups right,

1413
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: you know, like I can still for the most part.

1414
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: I just got to warm them up good and make

1415
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: sure that i'm you know, doing some stuff. But you

1416
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: know what I did for years, and I wouldn't change

1417
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: a thing, you know, like I did all that knowing

1418
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: and expecting that down the road, you know, we'll see

1419
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: what happens. So I'm just hoping that knee replacements get

1420
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 3: better in the next you know, ten or fifteen years

1421
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: or lasts longer, you know, because uh really, honestly, yeah, honestly,

1422
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: the only major thing that I have is is this

1423
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: left knee. Just some days it's really good and other

1424
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: days it's not, just because it's basically just there's no

1425
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: cartilage left, you know, like, and there's no rhyme or

1426
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: reason why. One day it'll feel or look you know, normal,

1427
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: and then the next day it's swallowed up like a

1428
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: you know.

1429
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 2: So what will the life of seventy year old Rich

1430
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: frunning look like hopefully by then there's you know, titanium

1431
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: is good.

1432
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 3: I honestly, I think I think I'll still be all

1433
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: right because as long as I keep moving every day,

1434
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 3: I feel good. It's the days when I'm like, I'm

1435
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: not you know, honestly, there's not a day where I'm

1436
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: like I'm not going to do anything. But you know,

1437
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 3: the less that I do and less that I put

1438
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: my body, you know, me and Clay were talking about

1439
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 3: this yesterday, like one of the things that I hate,

1440
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: not hate, but like when people are like, ah, I'd

1441
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: have to get in shape before I did CrossFit, I'm like, no,

1442
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: that's not the point. The point is CrossFit is what

1443
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: should get you in shape. If you wanted to do

1444
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: the CrossFit games, yeah, you'd have to get in shape

1445
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: to do that. But like me and Clay were talking,

1446
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 3: like I hate the whole Like, oh, I you know,

1447
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: I bodybuilders are stupid, weightlifters are stupid.

1448
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: Powerlift.

1449
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: It's like, do what you want to do as long

1450
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: as you're moving through some I said, be able to

1451
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: move your body weight through space, get your heart rate

1452
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 3: up a little bit every day, carry things, pick things up,

1453
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: like whatever's going to enhance your life and make your

1454
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: life better, and you enjoy that's physical activity.

1455
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: Do it. That's all I care about.

1456
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: I also asked Rich, I said, uh, is there any Well,

1457
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: let's not have a huge conversation about supplements. But uh,

1458
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: but I said, I said to him, what supplement would

1459
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: you take if you could just take one magic supplement?

1460
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: There's nutrition, Man, you got to you gotta take nutritions.

1461
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I like caffeine, like nutrition. Nutrition.

1462
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he basically said nutrition.

1463
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: Act.

1464
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: I thought he might be like, Man, I'm doing this

1465
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: and doing this and doing this and doing this and this,

1466
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: and I mean.

1467
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: I mean I've gone through times where you know, I

1468
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: took creatine and I've noticed some positives. You know, we

1469
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: work with mountain ups. I like caffeine. I like the

1470
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: beta kind of itch makes me feel like, you know,

1471
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: pre work out just because and there's it's scientifically proven

1472
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 3: that it does help buffer lactic acid. And you can

1473
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: get into those things. But man, you know, sustitutes good

1474
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: nutrition and nutrition after and doing something being outside. You know,

1475
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: like what about testosterone? I will take it when I

1476
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 3: get to that point. I mean, when my numbers are good.

1477
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 3: They've I've you know they've ebbed and flowed over the years,

1478
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 3: and you know that's testosterone is one of the things

1479
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: it's hard to like, so many things mess with it,

1480
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, environmental factors, sleep, stress, those types of things.

1481
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: So you almost need like a couple of weeks between

1482
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 3: taking things or taking blood tests, uh to do it.

1483
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, when mine gets to the point where it's

1484
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: you know, three four hundred on a regular basis, then

1485
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,440
Speaker 3: you better believe.

1486
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 4: It's never getting there.

1487
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad, well dad takes it now, So I

1488
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm supposed to.

1489
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I mean I am everything, you know,

1490
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: like if if a doctor's I guess you can't really

1491
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 3: use doctors because they're not always accurate. But I mean,

1492
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: you know, like I I think, I think it's an individual.

1493
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: You know what you've got to figure out. As an

1494
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 3: I we talked to you.

1495
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: I've heard some people be like every man over thirty five,

1496
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: I would be on testosterone. I mean, you know that's

1497
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: an exact exaggeration.

1498
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: But I was on it for a while and then

1499
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: I got off.

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Speaker 6: Actually did you started making my cholesterol go out pretty bad,

1501
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,839
Speaker 6: and you know, I need to have some better nutrition.

1502
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: But but is.

1503
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: This the time on the podcast and we're going to

1504
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: tell the world.

1505
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 2: Why you run testicular cancer.

1506
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 6: Oh and uh so one of our buddies, part of

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Speaker 6: my testosterone making production system is gone gone, and that,

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01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 6: uh that's affected my testosterone. And I can I can

1509
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 6: tell when it ebbs and flas you know what I mean,

1510
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 6: It does ebb and flow.

1511
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I've done it.

1512
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 3: You like, I did intermittent fasting for a while because

1513
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: mine was kind of tanking a little bit. And I

1514
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: did it for three or four years, intermittent fasting, and

1515
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 3: my testosterone jumped.

1516
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: It went up, it went up.

1517
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: So I was told that that makes it go down.

1518
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: See mine went up. It was like, is it's supposed

1519
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: to make it go down?

1520
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 3: So I'd heard that it was the opposite, that it

1521
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 3: would go up because your body has more, you know,

1522
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: like in that window. The idea is that, you know,

1523
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 3: your digestion takes so much energy from the rest of

1524
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 3: your body, from your endocrine system, all that stuff, that

1525
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: if you isolate the time when your digestive system is working,

1526
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 3: that body, our body functions. So I don't know, you know,

1527
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: I guess the that was kind of a big thing.

1528
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, and I loved it. But

1529
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: then I got to the point where when I was

1530
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 3: when I was working out and training a bunch that like,

1531
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 3: I couldn't take in enough calories in that eight hour window,

1532
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: and I was like, I went from walking around at

1533
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 3: one ninety five, which I have for fifteen years probably

1534
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 3: down to one eighty four or something like that.

1535
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: So I quit doing intermittent fasting.

1536
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: And now you know what they called him back then,

1537
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: rich scrunt.

1538
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 4: He did it when we all hunted. When he was

1539
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 4: intermittent fasting. It was at the first two years. Yeah,

1540
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: and then so he wouldn't eat until now.

1541
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 3: I mean, we're intermittent fasting out here right now, you know, yeah,

1542
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 3: but he wouldn't.

1543
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 4: We'd be hiking around the mountains and I'm, you know,

1544
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 4: taking snacks in as we get up these hills and mountains,

1545
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: and he wouldn't eat until noon or whatever. But then

1546
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: the second time we're flying back the second year, you

1547
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 4: ate breakfast. And it was the first time I'd ever

1548
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 4: seen me at the breakfast because when I moved down

1549
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 4: to Tennessee, he had been he's kind of in the

1550
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 4: middle of dinner mint fasting. So it was the first

1551
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 4: time I ever saw me at breakfast, and he never

1552
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 4: looked back, never looked back.

1553
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: Interesting.

1554
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, I don't know the answer

1555
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: to either of the you know.

1556
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: Like, but I I hardcore and barking attest Josh can too.

1557
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: For three years. I was very diligent to six days

1558
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: a week. It's very stringent inter minute fasting, like not

1559
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: eating until like four o'clock in the afternoon four and

1560
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: uh and and it it uh the web one of

1561
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: the one of the big influencers on Instagram. You'd know

1562
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: his name. He was on the Meteor podcast. He's the

1563
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: he's the guy that big into meat. He's a medical doctor. Anyway,

1564
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed I can't remember his name. But I'd been

1565
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: intermittent fasting hardcore for three years and it helped keep

1566
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: me trim.

1567
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1568
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, I just I just noticed, like I

1569
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just felt like I was like, how.

1570
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: Long were you was your window? Were you doing like

1571
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 2: a four hour window?

1572
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: Like see, I would eat till like ten or something,

1573
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: you know.

1574
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would do an eight, I'd do sixteen eight,

1575
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: so I'd start at noon, Yeah, eat till eight.

1576
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: Well, this guy told me I forgot his name, sorry

1577
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: brouh that he's like, hey, inter minute fasting, extreme inter

1578
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: minute fasting can mess with your testosterone, and I think

1579
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: it did.

1580
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1581
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: I actually didn't get unfortunately, I wasn't able to get

1582
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: test tested, but uh.

1583
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, mine went from like four or five ish to

1584
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: like seven eight.

1585
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: Wow, So it went up.

1586
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: It went up. Wow, that's a pretty good jump.

1587
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: Could have been I had a good sleep off season,

1588
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: could have been you know, number of things, you know.

1589
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: And honestly, when probably the one time when I got

1590
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 3: it early on had the blood panel, I think both

1591
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: of my kids, like I have three kids, ten, seven

1592
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: and six, and those the seven and six year old

1593
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: were probably.

1594
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: Like three and four, so they were not sleeping, you know.

1595
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: So it's like sleep has such a huge That's what

1596
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 3: I tell people when people are always like, what's the

1597
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: number one recovery thing, I'm like, sleep. If you can

1598
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 3: sleep seven eight hours a night, you'll see, like you

1599
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: will recover way better. I notice when I, you know,

1600
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 3: multiple days of sub seven hours starts to wear on

1601
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: me quick.

1602
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. If I'm training and working out a lot.

1603
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, par any more questions finale question you don't

1604
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: have to have one. Josh Scott, how many pounds.

1605
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: Is your bow? How many pounds? Eighty two?

1606
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you are pulling the heavy bow. Yeah okay,

1607
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 1: yeah cool. Yeah, it's smoking.

1608
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's fast, it's a elite ethos and it

1609
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: shoots pretty good. I'd really like I have a I

1610
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: have three pin the slider, but my pins are twenty

1611
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 3: or yeah, twenty five, forty and fifty, but that twenty

1612
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 3: five I can shoot at twenty and thirty within pretty

1613
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's shooting quick.

1614
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep.

1615
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: So I think it was like stock was like seventy

1616
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: five and I was shooting a white before that, and

1617
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: it was like an eighty two.

1618
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, hey, guys, I need like I

1619
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,919
Speaker 2: just need to feel that so good comes with the territory,

1620
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, like expectations fit earth.

1621
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: You have to you know, like, yeah, I figured you're

1622
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna be like I'm pulling fifty, come on, come on, man,

1623
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: I even with a bum rotator cut.

1624
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. Honestly, it's the the draw is fine

1625
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: on this left shoulder. It's the the pushing out that

1626
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: was bugging my should every every fall. When I would

1627
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: start shooting a bunch, this left shoulder would start to

1628
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 3: kill me. And then when I got done, I never

1629
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 3: got an MRI while I was competing because I didn't

1630
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 3: want to know, like you don't want to know. And

1631
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: so I went in and two of the four they

1632
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: call that out of sight, out of my great probably.

1633
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 2: Really it really is.

1634
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: And so after I competed, I was like, let me

1635
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 3: just see if I need to do something like and

1636
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, the two of the four rotator cup muscles

1637
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 3: were torn or I had near full thickness tears, and

1638
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: one was like extreme tendinosis. And so you talk to

1639
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 3: a doctor and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got

1640
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: to cut on that. And then you talk to a

1641
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: PT and they're like, oh, we can pete that. So

1642
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 3: I went the PT route and it's i'd say ninety

1643
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 3: five percent better. But I just switched to left handed.

1644
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 3: I'm left eye dominant. I had a buddy his dad,

1645
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: when we were shooting rifles as a kid. I would

1646
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 3: shoulder it to my right shoulder and I'd try to

1647
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 3: look down with my left eye and he's like no, no,

1648
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: just slapped tape over my eye and made me walk

1649
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: around like that for the rest of the day, and

1650
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 3: so I can. I can close this right eye, but

1651
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm way more comfor I can look with that right eye,

1652
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 3: but I'm way more comfortable with this left eye.

1653
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: So I feel way better and the same.

1654
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: I really wish I need to start practicing rifle left eye,

1655
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: because I think i'd be better too. I shoot a

1656
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 3: rifle left hand, I should right. I shoot a rifle

1657
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 3: right handed and a bow left handed.

1658
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: To you shot bow left handed when you killed the

1659
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: first ball?

1660
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Well, guys, really appreciate it. Appreciate it fun.

1661
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: We've got another basically day of hunting.

1662
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 2: We're gonna it's gonna happen, all right.

1663
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: Well, keep the wild place as wild because that's where

1664
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: the bears live.

1665
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate you having us