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Speaker 1: All from Tommy.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me, Tommy moham man, what's up?

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Speaker 1: How are you going on?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, I'm trying my best. What's up. How's

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Speaker 2: it going?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's going I get a bit too unfold and

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Speaker 1: I have a wonderful super surprise at the end.

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Speaker 3: You said, you have a bit too unfold and a

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Speaker 3: wonderful surprise at the end.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you just said?

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Speaker 1: That is that is exactly what I said.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, unfold right into my into my ass. Hit

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Speaker 3: mat what's going on?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 1: So start this out in my axe broke up back

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Speaker 1: in December, had to move back to my parents. Uh,

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Speaker 1: like an hour away or so, I'm in I'm in

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Speaker 1: New York Connecticut area. That's been super hard. I uh

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Speaker 1: worked or her brother doing welding and stuff, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he had wanted me to stay. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just need to get like all

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Speaker 1: of it out of my life. Yeah, her brother, you

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Speaker 1: had any connection with her, but yeah, I don't know. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little Uh. I didn't think you were going

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Speaker 2: You broke up with you said you broke up with

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Speaker 2: your girlfriends.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we broke up. We were just you know,

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Speaker 1: a little bit toxic drinking and getting the sights and

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Speaker 3: Ah, okay, what's for both both party animals? But so well,

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Speaker 3: what kind of tell me more about this toxicity?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Just late night she was a serverre atte a

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Speaker 1: restaurant and uh, like summertime, she get home like two

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Speaker 1: three in the morning. I don't know, food and bed industry. Usually,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have a few drinks at the end

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Speaker 1: of the night. Whenever she'd come home fucking blasted, and

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, what the fuck? Mhm, uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Anytime I'm like, you know, we'd go out, she would

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Speaker 2: Okay, I needed I don't. I don't know you, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know your life.

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Speaker 3: But from what you are telling me right now, it

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Speaker 3: sounds like this breakup was a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, uh yeah, definitely good for my mental

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Speaker 1: But uh started working back and when you know, got

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Speaker 1: up to my parents, took like a month, aful work

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Speaker 1: my parents' fucking basement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, which is cool.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone's got to do that. Sometimes you do.

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Speaker 2: You got to do that.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you absolutely got to do that. Sometimes I'm what

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Speaker 3: the fuck was I gonna say?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: How long ago was?

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Speaker 1: This was early December, like mid December, like in the

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Speaker 1: team's December teams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's been a few months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a few months. Definitely do a lot better.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, what's what's been better?

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Speaker 1: I guess, well, I'm sorry. Okay. So where she lives.

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Speaker 1: She lives like forty minutes away from me, from the

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Speaker 1: town that I grew up in. So about like six

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Speaker 1: seven months after we started dating, we were like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, why don't I why don't we move in together? Sucky?

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Speaker 1: We heard you, you know, we'd like each other. We

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Speaker 1: Get a little distant with my friends. Sort of happened

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people and you get into a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Now, So did you rekindle your your relationship with your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was it was never like I

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Speaker 1: anytime I was up here, head go, you hit them

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Speaker 1: But now that I'm backed up here, definitely rekindled the pome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, and.

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Speaker 1: Doing some uh been abusing adder all bit.

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Speaker 2: And it was a drug. Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I worked long hours, worked eleven hour days. Went back

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Speaker 1: to my old job that pizzeria I worked at like

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Speaker 3: I can't decide if a pizza made by five dudes

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Speaker 1: I guarantee that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure fucking we'll get that ship to you

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Speaker 3: in twenty minutes or less, fuck thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we don't deliver. Though we did not deliver.

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Speaker 2: You don't deliver, then what's the adderall for?

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Speaker 1: Adderall? Just for sucking get through the day with all

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Speaker 1: the shitty fucking customers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this was three months ago. What's what are

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Speaker 2: you doing with your life now? Are you? You got it? Dude?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I don't know your life.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what your feelings do, but uh, I

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Speaker 3: mean hanging out with your boys and making pizzas it's

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Speaker 3: what do you want?

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Speaker 2: More?

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? What's missing?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Chuck? Being lowly? My friends closer friends are like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I got you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of a I've been drinking a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I so get it.

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Speaker 3: I've had a couple of times where I've had anxiety

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Speaker 3: that was just like anxiety or loneliness that was just like, so,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big alcohol guy. I'm not a big drink.

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Speaker 3: Like a difficult to deal with and then be impossible

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Speaker 2: But they're really hard.

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Speaker 3: Even with the wealth of information, to solve them because like,

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Speaker 3: into conflict. You know, conflict it's really hard to to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that's a hell yeah brother. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, brother.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that is necessarily a hell yeah brother.

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Speaker 3: Because I I'd like to think that there's something I'd

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Speaker 1: But well, no, no, I wasn't hell yeah and brother, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure sure. But that's why I'd like to think that,

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Speaker 2: But so you're feeling lonely, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to I've been hidden, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, guys, you guys want to go loud

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Speaker 1: I would like at least And you know, I've tried

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Speaker 1: I'm getting out here.

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Speaker 2: But no, you want you want, you want, you want

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Speaker 2: the boy? You want the boys in your corner?

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Speaker 1: Yea, And the boys are always in my corner. I

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Speaker 1: never Yeah, boys are always.

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Speaker 2: In my corner. How old? How old are you? I'm

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Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty six? When you're this is hard. When

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Speaker 2: you get older, your friends start to have their own lives,

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Speaker 1: Which is fine. I like, I get that one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's stressful. It really is stressful.

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Speaker 3: Stressful when you you like your friends are like everyone's

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Speaker 1: thing definitely helped, Thank you. Okay, I have I have

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Speaker 2: What of what makes him my doppelganger?

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Speaker 1: He's he's your twin? He is? He is you? I

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Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, this isn't you right?

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Speaker 2: Is he is? He is? He look like me? Does

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Speaker 1: Dude? He sounds exactly you look and sounds exactly like

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Speaker 1: but like, is there any way I can send like

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna do that, but send us, send

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Speaker 1: Do it right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, for sure. What How do you how? What

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Speaker 1: He's just like like he's just like the most oddball

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Speaker 2: We just I'm sorry people fire.

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Speaker 3: You're six foot seven, yes, sir, you're like you're like

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Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so Anthony, I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Now get go, get go's max? What foot?

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Speaker 2: Well? I'm how tall am I? I'm like someone in

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Speaker 2: the chat just said, GEK loves tall men. I do,

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Speaker 3: It's been a long journey, but I've come to terms

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Speaker 1: I used to tell people Anthony is five seven, Bro,

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's probably what it is. It's probably what it is. No,

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Speaker 3: I still do tell people on five to seven sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious, dude. I'm telling you, guys are fucking

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Speaker 1: spitting images of each other. I swear. Do you want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought that thought what you were doing.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was vamping on the phone with you

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Speaker 2: Someone said I love tall men. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: I think I maybe used to be in my younger years,

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Speaker 3: I wonder sometimes I'm like, what's it like to be,

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Speaker 1: It seems nice, you know, everyone thinks it's all fun

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think six seven is a little

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Speaker 2: Did you text me this yet?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm finding a picture of Sorry. I looked

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Speaker 1: on his entergram and he hasn't posted in like eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: Actually got a picture of both of us here Halloween.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to be tony soprano.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, I go, I feel like you're gonna

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Speaker 3: send it. I feel like this isn't going to be.

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Speaker 3: This guy's not going to look.

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Speaker 2: Anything like me.

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Speaker 1: Dude, he is. I'm telling you, bro, I've convinced so

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Speaker 1: many people to pizzeria that his account is yours.

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Speaker 2: Did you text it to me yet?

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Speaker 1: I just I just sent it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, hold on, let me try to find it.

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Speaker 3: It's six six seven is a little too tall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I have a queen size bed. I literally

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Speaker 2: It, like, Okay, you sent it to this phone number,

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Speaker 2: the four oh one phone number you texted it to that. Oh,

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Speaker 2: there we go. Okay, I just got it. I just

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Speaker 2: got it. This guy does not look like me at all.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you're nuts. You're not You're nuts.

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Speaker 3: This guy does not look like me. He's just another

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Speaker 1: He's not even Jewish.

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Speaker 3: Keep he looks like he's wearing a keep on in

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Speaker 3: the thing. No, he's This guy does not look like

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Speaker 1: You're smoking a brother, He's just he's.

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Speaker 3: Just five seven, Harry white, dude with a beer. He's

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Speaker 2: He's also a little skinnier. He's also a little skinnier.

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Speaker 1: He is a little skinnier. He is a little skinnier.

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Speaker 2: Jim, I'm looking more at you. Man. You're like a whole.

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Speaker 2: You are twice the size of this other guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and taller too.

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Speaker 2: Man. I I'm you. You have a lot.

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Speaker 3: You You've got a good life. Man, I really hope

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Speaker 3: you're I understand. We all get lonely sometimes and it's

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Speaker 2: You gotta go. I'm I'm optimistic for you. I really am.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. The only thing I don't see a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I told some way that the pizzeri once

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Speaker 1: please don't tell me that. Well, what's your name again,

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Speaker 1: Cornelius vandam.

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Speaker 3: Building that's not your real name? Right, just snickered Cornelius. Well, Tommy,

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Speaker 3: I'll see you around the universe. Man, is he anything

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Speaker 3: else you want to say before we go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Everyone, just keep your head up, don't uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and get into a swum but the walk on out

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Speaker 1: Not keep your head keep on keeping all life's life's

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Speaker 2: Keep your head up. That way you can make contact

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Speaker 3: That was stupid. All right, we should stop, We should

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Speaker 3: get off the phone, all right.

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Speaker 1: Love you chat, Love you Lyle, stay prosperous. Goodpi brother,

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Speaker 1: and oh no, I'll try not to do any adderle today.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, sir. My prayers are with you.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I'm gonna take a shot at Jamil freet on

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Speaker 1: the call, so God bless everyone.

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Speaker 2: Take care.

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Speaker 1: Just one.

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Speaker 2: Geck bless call from Madison. Hello, Hello, Hi?

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Speaker 5: Who is this Madison? Is this uh the gecko?

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Speaker 2: This is the gecko? What's up?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 5: Just sitting in bed currently sick? But uh, I thought

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Speaker 3: Well, well, Madison, here we are on the phone. Just

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Speaker 3: Here we are, And I ask you humbly humbly from

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Speaker 2: What would you like to talk about today?

439
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Speaker 3: Oh?

440
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: Man, that is a very good question. Well, lately, I've

441
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 5: been having some uh I guess not issues, but just

442
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 5: a little bit of some problems with dealing with being

443
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 5: in a relation, like a long distance relationship. You know, Okay,

444
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 5: hit me, Yeah what.

445
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: Was that I said?

446
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 3: Hit me to share the the crazy details of your life.

447
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't call them too crazy, but uh, you know,

448
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: I've been in this long relationship, long distance relationship for

449
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 5: about a little over a year now, and uh we

450
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 5: met on discord and you know, everything has been like

451
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 5: really really great. It's probably like the best relationship I've

452
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 5: ever been in. But I kind of have, you know,

453
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 5: some issues with the fact that we're so far apart,

454
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 5: and some nights I'm like sitting in bed just like, man,

455
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 5: what am I? What am I gonna do? Like, I

456
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 5: can't deal with being alone sometimes and I it's yeah,

457
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 5: it's pretty hard. So and I don't really have a

458
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 5: lot of friends who.

459
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: Been in a relationship for.

460
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: Like a year in four months.

461
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: And what where's worse live? Where do you live?

462
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 5: They live in New Jersey and I live in Michigan.

463
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: Okay, what made you want to enter a long distance

464
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: relationship with this person that you met on discord? What

465
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: is it about this relationship that provides you with value

466
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: on a continued basis?

467
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 5: Well, I guess initially I wasn't really like wanting to

468
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 5: go into a long distance relationship. It just kind of

469
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 5: like happened.

470
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 3: You know.

471
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: We started talking in this one server that one of

472
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 5: my friends invited me to, and we were just you know,

473
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 5: talking as friends, and you know, eventually we realized that

474
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: we had feelings for each other, and it just it

475
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 5: was like, I don't know, I had this like feeling

476
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 5: that I couldn't just like not be with them, you know.

477
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 5: So yeah, but uh, I they they just have treated

478
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 5: me better than like anybody I've ever been with, and

479
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 5: our communication is really good, and we're also like interested

480
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 5: in a lot of the same things. So it just

481
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 5: made sense.

482
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: How often do you head over to Jersey to see them?

483
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 5: Well, I've been there a couple of times and they've

484
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 5: they've definitely come to see me more. But uh, and

485
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 5: also like Throughout our relationship, we've definitely seen each other

486
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 5: in person more than like the average person who's in

487
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: a long distance relationship does, which I'm like, you know,

488
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 5: obviously really grateful for because a lot of people don't

489
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 5: get that chance to like see them or their significant

490
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 5: others like for years or months, you know. But it's

491
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 5: still just like so hard for me to like let

492
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 5: go of the fact that I can't see them like

493
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 5: every day.

494
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: Oh well, is anything stopping you from you know, It's

495
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 3: very funny. I'm thinking about this a lot lately because

496
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: I part of me was hesitant on the idea of,

497
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: like is it a good idea to move to be

498
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 3: with someone romantically, because I mean, you know, there's all

499
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: sorts of like horror stories about people doing that, fucking

500
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: them up. There's also actually a lot of stories, you know,

501
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: I've heard them on the podcast, I've heard them anecdotally

502
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: about people who do that and the relationship doesn't work out,

503
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: but yet the move works out, you know what I mean.

504
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: Like someone maybe like moves to you know, some city

505
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: to be with somebody, and that relationship doesn't work out,

506
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: but then some other thing happens in that city, and

507
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: and that kind of works out.

508
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of like.

509
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: Let me give up career opportunities to go be with

510
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: a person, And sometimes that's kind of baked in to

511
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: like moving locations, but a lot of the time it's not, because,

512
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we live in a digital universe.

513
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: People are working from home, people are building their their

514
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: careers on the internet. So I mean, what's what's going

515
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: on in Michigan and what's stopping you guys from you know,

516
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: being in the same location.

517
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, actually it's funny that you mentioned the whole

518
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 5: like working from home thing because my partner actually was

519
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: like trying to do that and was doing that for

520
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: a little bit when we first met. They have a

521
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 5: degree in like computer engineering, and they were working with

522
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: this company or like probably a little less than a year,

523
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 5: but it was like a startup saying I don't really

524
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 5: know a lot about computer engineering, so like, but like

525
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 5: basically they weren't really like getting paid yet because it

526
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: was a startup, I guess, and the boss was like

527
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 5: supposed to basically pay them like after working for so long,

528
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: and then they just like kept postponing it, and eventually

529
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 5: my partner was like, okay, like I don't really want

530
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 5: to like be working under this guy anymore because he

531
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: keeps like not going through with his word.

532
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: So they're thinking about quitting their job.

533
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: Well they they did, they did that company.

534
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: So uh nothing, nothing Michigan. What are they doing?

535
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: That's yeah, that's what I'm saying. But like it's there's

536
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: a lot of like things though, where they just don't

537
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: have the money obviously because of the fact that they haven't.

538
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Been working, they don't have them wanted to live in Michigan,

539
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: I guess not.

540
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: I mean, but it's also they've been trying to find

541
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 5: jobs here and they like can't find any jobs here

542
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: that will like respond back to them.

543
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: Do you do you want to move to New Jersey?

544
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 5: I don't know. I've thought about it, but like, excuse me,

545
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: it's I have a lot of stuff where I'm at

546
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: right now, like family, and I have a cat that

547
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: would be having to be moved as well. So it's

548
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: and I also have a job where I'm at right

549
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: now as well.

550
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: So okay, so so this guy, this guy has a job.

551
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't have a job. What's he doing?

552
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: Uh?

553
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 5: So I actually right now they are basically like trying

554
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: to find the place. But they're also they were making

555
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: like YouTube videos for a little bit. A couple of

556
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: months ago. They started a YouTube channel because they play

557
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: a lot of like magic the Gathering.

558
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: So okay, hold on, it's just just I want to

559
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: just like it ad be practical here for a few times,

560
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: because because I don't know, I I'm and look, my

561
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: life isn't perfect in any sense of the way. But

562
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: if I'm talking to you, I want to just like,

563
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: let's not fuck around here, you know, because you can

564
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: just we can waste we can waste a lot of

565
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: time fucking around. And I know that personally because you know,

566
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean, every human being is wasted a lot of

567
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: time just fucking around, you know. So let's not fuck

568
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: around for a second. So you're in this long term

569
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: relationship and you like it, it's good, but just there

570
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 3: this big I mean, these long distance relationships, they can

571
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: really make you unhappy, you know, because you wanted somebody

572
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: who's who's there, right?

573
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: You know?

574
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have your job, and you have your family,

575
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: and you have your cat, you know, and you don't

576
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 3: really want to give those things up. I don't know

577
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: what your partner has going on from what you're telling

578
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: me it's nothing, But I don't know. I haven't talked

579
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: to them about it, But has has there been any

580
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: like like attempt to compromise and figure something out or

581
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: is it just like, uh, like what's what are we

582
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: figuring out here?

583
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: You know?

584
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: So we've we've definitely talked about it a lot, and

585
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: I guess there this is the thing I haven't really

586
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: like mentioned. Their whole thing is that they don't want

587
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: to be like relying on me, if that makes sense,

588
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 5: Like they want to have their shit together before they

589
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 5: like come into my life physically, so like they want

590
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: to have like an established job and have enough money

591
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: coming here. Because their plan was that they were going

592
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: to move here because of the fact that I said, like,

593
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: you know, I have family here, I have a cat,

594
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: I have a job, so it would be better for

595
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: them to move here. And right now they just don't

596
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: think that they have the funds or you know, the

597
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 5: ability to find a good paying job at the moment

598
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: moving here until at least like next year. But it's

599
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: like it's just kind of such a long ways away,

600
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: Like I mean, it's not, but it is, you know.

601
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still don't I still don't understand this person have.

602
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: Like, like, they are paying money to live in New Jersey. Correct,

603
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: they're paying rents to live in New Jersey.

604
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're paying for food.

605
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: And tricity and the various things that you need to live.

606
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: And just that does the budget that they have to

607
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: pay for those things currently not allowed for them to

608
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: pay for those things in Michigan as well well.

609
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: So their parents have been helping them money.

610
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: And Okay, I I understand, I I I understand now

611
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: what what this person is talking about when they're like, listen,

612
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: my life.

613
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Is my I I get it. I think I think

614
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: I understand.

615
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: I think I think this person is like, Okay, look,

616
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: my parents are helping me live. I don't have a job.

617
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm kind of fucking around. You have a life,

618
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: you have a thing. I don't want to like leech

619
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: off of you. So let me like figure my shit out.

620
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then we'll we'll see.

621
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: But here's the question.

622
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: Have do they have a and I I ask you this,

623
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: do you believe that they have a a legitimate timeline

624
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: as to when they're going to quote figure their shit out?

625
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: A definition even of what figuring your shit out means and.

626
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: And see, do you do you believe.

627
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: Them, knowing what you know about them, that they will

628
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: be able to achieve this this you know, forever elusive

629
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: idea of getting their ship together.

630
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I like, I know that they're like reliable

631
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 5: and that they're smart, and their reasonings for not moving

632
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: here are understandable and it's not just like some excuse.

633
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: But like.

634
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: Also another thing too is.

635
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: Well hold on, but we haven't even do we haven't

636
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: even covered this thing before we introduce another thing. And

637
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: then also like yes, understandable that we're not we're not

638
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: trying to figure out if it's understandable or not.

639
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: We've understood.

640
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: The question is, you know, can we rely that this

641
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: will be a problem that is addressed and fixed so

642
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: that we're not you know, continually delaying our future.

643
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: For this person.

644
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think it'll take more than

645
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: a year. So but like as it is right now,

646
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: it's hard to say like exactly how long it will

647
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: take because of where they're at at the moment, like

648
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 5: where because I mean they they're trying, you know to

649
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: find jobs here, like they've applied to like so many places,

650
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: and they just like don't get calls back, and they

651
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 5: actually had a job reach out to them recently and

652
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 5: they like did some tests that they wanted them to

653
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: take and then they just like ended up failing the

654
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: test and that people were like yeah, or like you can't.

655
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: Let's let's go, let's go. We're getting too specific here, Okay,

656
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go. Top line. Okay, this guy is

657
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: doing what he's applying to jobs. He's do you.

658
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Speaker 3: And these are I don't have answers to these. I'm

659
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: not gonna tell you what to do, but you should

660
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: think about, like, you know, do you do you want

661
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: to be waiting around for this? And if the answer

662
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: is yes, then that's beautiful. Then wait around for it

663
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: because you know it's gonna be worth it because you

664
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: really really really like this person and you know it's

665
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: gonna be yeah, even know not even no, you can't

666
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: know shit, but you have a pretty good idea that

667
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: this is gonna be.

668
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Speaker 5: How old are you, by the way, I just turned

669
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Speaker 5: twenty three this month?

670
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Speaker 2: Okay? How old is this guy?

671
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: Twenty five?

672
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

673
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Are you guys still fucking young? Yeah?

674
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

675
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: Look here here's what I would say. And by the way,

676
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: I'm a total hypocrite. I really, I've really been thinking

677
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: about this a lot, with this fucking potty.

678
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: This podcast is.

679
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: Getting more and more difficult for me to do because

680
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: my life is really not figure it out myself, and

681
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: so I don't like to but but and it's but

682
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: it's it's so much easier to therapy getto other people

683
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: than it is to therapy gecko yourself.

684
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: But I'll just let's just do it.

685
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: You know, if I were you, just from talking to you, like,

686
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't stop wasting my time like waiting, cold feet,

687
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: fucking around, whatever, whatever, and like like kind of make

688
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: a decision. And I'm not talking about like a foreverone.

689
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm talking about like and you could even even if

690
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: like waiting, even if you decide to wait, that is

691
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: a decision, you know, So so figure it out so

692
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: that way you're not just like, you know, will he

693
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: won't he you know, forever because this is gonna make

694
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: you unhappy, you know. And you could even do a

695
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: thing where it's like maybe we go on a break

696
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: and when you're ready, come at me, and if I'm ready,

697
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: then it works out.

698
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: And if it doesn't work out, it's fine.

699
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: But you're also so fucking you know, we're all young,

700
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: we're in our twenties. You knows, what's the big rush

701
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: to go crazy? I mean, if you want, you can

702
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: move to Michigan. I mean, move to New Jersey. They

703
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: have pinball machines there.

704
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

705
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: I hope any of what I said just made any

706
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: sense at all. I really do, I really after I

707
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: really just now was like, I don't know if I

708
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: made any sense, but but just.

709
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Speaker 6: Yeah, because a lot of these, like so many I

710
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 6: think this is just with like issues in general.

711
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you're sitting here, you're talking to me,

712
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, there's this other thing and this

713
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: other thing is the other thing, and.

714
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: The details don't matter.

715
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: It's like the top line of like do you want

716
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: to sacrifice certain things from yourself, your time, your energy

717
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: for this person? That's the top all the little like

718
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: well here's this detail, and here's this detail, and he's

719
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: applying for jobs and this, and they all that none

720
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: of that matters. That there's only really that one question

721
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: that matters is how much of your time and energy

722
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: do you want to sacrifice for this person? And there's

723
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: no wrong answer to that question. And by the way,

724
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: even if you decide, you know what I do, and

725
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: then two years goes by and it turns out that

726
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: that was the wrong decision, It's okay. You're not gonna die,

727
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: You're gonna be fine. You're gonna be twenty five, and

728
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: you have much more life ahead of you to live.

729
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Like you know, you don't.

730
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: Don't freak out about making that right decision, but understand

731
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: that that's the decision that you're making.

732
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

733
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean okay, at the end of the day,

734
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: it's it's just whether or not I can be sorry,

735
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 5: be comferable alone for however long until they can move here,

736
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 5: you know, or if I should just drop everything and

737
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 5: like move to them.

738
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: But if you want to do that, then you do that.

739
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: It's not gonna you're not gonna die, You're not gonna

740
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: throw away you know, your one opportunity to you know,

741
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: live a happy life. I mean, I just that's the

742
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: thing is I would just pick something, because if you don't,

743
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna just live in in in this weird limbo state.

744
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's that's really I think what I have

745
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: to say about this.

746
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Madison? Madison? This was this. I'm

747
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: glad we've got to talk about this. This was helpful.

748
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: I enjoy thinking about these things, enjoy thinking about life.

749
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 2: It's very difficult. It's really hard.

750
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: I know I'm making it sound like it's like easy,

751
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: I guess, but it's not. It's really hard because you're

752
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: you're dealing with I'm talking the way I'm talking about this.

753
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: I'm not emotionally connected to it, so it's easier for

754
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: me to you know, say all these things.

755
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I hope it was helpful in any way.

756
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to say thanks for like hearing

757
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: me out and giving your input of it and everything.

758
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: And you know, I love them a lot. So at

759
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: the end of the day, like I'll have to just

760
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: suck it up and you know, be okay with waiting

761
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: because that's what I mean, that's the easiest decision to make,

762
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 5: because it's either that or try to like get all

763
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 5: my shit over there. And that's.

764
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, cool, cool.

765
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: Just before we go, if that's your decision, just like

766
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: be just try to be happy with your decision, you know,

767
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: because it's something it's not nobody forced this upon you.

768
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: This is like your decision that you're making and you

769
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: should be that should make.

770
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: You feel happy and powerful and your life.

771
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 5: Thank you for that.

772
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

773
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

774
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

775
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I've always thought about what I was gonna say

776
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: when you asked this. Uh, I guess don't ever just

777
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 5: settle for what your you know, life is, or who

778
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: you're with, because you deserve better and you deserve the best,

779
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: and there are those people out there who really care

780
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 5: about you and love you for who you are. And yeah,

781
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 5: just see yourself and love yourself.

782
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: That's what.

783
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: I was trying to think of. Something.

784
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't know why when people start saying a lot

785
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: of really positive things on the podcast, Like in my brain,

786
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, what horrible thing.

787
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: Can I say to offset this so that I don't

788
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: feel like it's the mister Rogers show? But nothing in

789
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: my brain? Yeah, it was nothing.

790
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: Nothing that I said was I like, you know what,

791
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: that's something I should say anyway, I'm I don't know

792
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: why I said yes, go ahead?

793
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: Sorry?

794
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 5: Sorry, also get money?

795
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: There we go?

796
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, thank you very much, have a good rest

797
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: of the day, you too, But uh, hey.

798
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: What's up? Yeah, who's this?

799
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 4: You can call me Kate?

800
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: Kate? What's up?

801
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Kate?

802
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: How's life?

803
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: Honestly, like not that kind of amazed my first time

804
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: trying to call in Truly, I'm super nervous right now.

805
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: Cannot believe you called me.

806
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: Really, don't be, don't be, don't be nervous.

807
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: Don't be nervous. There's it's just uh, you and me

808
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: and a bunch of people who are probably folding laundry

809
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: or driving.

810
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: A car, or.

811
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: People cooking dinner.

812
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 7: That's what I'm doing right now, something like that.

813
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: Well, what's up, Kate? How can I get you today?

814
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

815
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: I just thought i'd call and I would love to

816
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: talk to you a bit about some personal I don't know,

817
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: like realizations I've been having the past couple of months.

818
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: Sure, what are that?

819
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: So?

820
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: As I wrote in my message to you, I've recently

821
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: realized that I am a meticulous control freak. I need

822
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: control of every aspect of my life. And this is

823
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: something I'm talking to a real therapist about. But I

824
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: find I'm a verbal process, so it's helpful for me

825
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 4: to talk to like other people. I really appreciate you

826
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: talking to me it's actually means a lot. But like

827
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: I've been in my relationship for six and a half years.

828
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: We got married this past summer. That's super exciting both

829
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: me and my husband are coming to your your Seattle show.

830
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: We can't wait, Like genuinely cannot wait. I was listening

831
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: to one of your podcasts and I heard you and

832
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: say that you were like coming to Seattle, and I

833
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: like immediately.

834
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: Got on like dull shout out the crocodile, love the crocodile.

835
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 5: Yes, guys, be there.

836
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 4: I'm so freaking excited to your show. So my point

837
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: here though, is that like we we've been we've been

838
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: together a long time, and he's like when we resot

839
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: arguments a lot of times, he'll tell me that he

840
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 4: feels like I'm suffocating.

841
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 7: Him, and I'm over here, I'm like, I have no

842
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 7: idea what you're talking about, dude, Like stuffocation, what does

843
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 7: that even mean? Like, I'm just trying to help you.

844
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm a teacher, Like that's my job, and so I

845
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: like that's what I do for a living, right, I

846
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: help people, And so in my head like everything makes

847
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 4: perfect sense, right, Like, oh, I'm just helping you do

848
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 4: whatever it is. That like, I think it's going to

849
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: be best for you because that's what I do with

850
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: my kids every single day.

851
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 7: And I found that I'm kind of doing that exact

852
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 7: same thing to my now husband, okay, And that set

853
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 7: up kind of like this chain of realizations of like, oh, like, man,

854
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 7: where do I do that in other areas of my life?

855
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 7: And then you know, I've had eating disorders the past.

856
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 7: I'm working like working through that right now, and I

857
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 7: was like, oh, maybe that's connected. And I've gone to

858
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 7: counseling so like perfectionism in the past.

859
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: And I'm like, wait a second, he needs that's connected.

860
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 7: And then suddenly it kind of starts to see this

861
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 7: like web right of like all these different places in

862
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 7: your life where you need to have perfect control. And

863
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 7: I guess why I wanted to talk to you is

864
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 7: because like I don't know how to like let.

865
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: Go of that need for control. Like I'm working with

866
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: a therapist on it, and I still don't know how

867
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 4: to like, hey, I don't need to know every aspect

868
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: of every single thing. Like I hate surprises. I can't

869
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 4: deal with them. I can't I can't like not know

870
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: something like how how does an avid.

871
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 7: Person does not need to control free situations they're in.

872
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 5: I don't get that.

873
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 4: That's what I want to talk to you about.

874
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: So when when when your husband said you were suffocating him,

875
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: Like what what was there? What specifically was going on?

876
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: That's a good question. So he he has ADHD, and so,

877
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: like you know, he sometimes has like problems completing tasks

878
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: or like you know, just like an example, like hey,

879
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: you got to go to the doctor, right, but then

880
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you got to make the doctor's appointment.

881
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: He's got to do all these other things. And I'm like, well,

882
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 4: you know, it just like just makes it make the

883
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: fucking appointment. Sorry. Sorry, I'm not sure if I'm supposed

884
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: to swear, but like just.

885
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, hold on. I don't know why this

886
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: always bothered me.

887
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: But of course you can swear, you can say, you

888
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: can say anything you want.

889
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: I just don't care. Sorry, I don't know why this.

890
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, I'm so sorry.

891
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: Kay, I don't know why that always works me up

892
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 3: when people ask if they can swear.

893
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: I should know better. I listened to the show.

894
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: If you listen to the show, you've heard people talk

895
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: about I mean, the guy just talked about you know, yeah,

896
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: you know you're anyway put it.

897
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: Into a frosty. I heard every bit of it, right, No, No,

898
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah. So I just you know, like he's

899
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: got ADHD and I don't. I'm neurotypical. And still for me,

900
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: it's like pretty easy, like let's just make the let's

901
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: make the doctor's appointment. But it's like harder, you know,

902
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: when you have to like, okay, what's the end goal?

903
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: You got to go to all these steps, and so

904
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: I'll like try to like help, right, like in my

905
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: head it's helping, but like it's not actually helping, and

906
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: in fact, like when I'm checking in, I'm like, hey,

907
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: when you're gonna be home tonight, like that feels like

908
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: suffocating to him in a way that like it doesn't

909
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: to me because I'm over here like oh, I'm cooking

910
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: dinner or what have you, and I'm just checking in,

911
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 4: But for him, it's like, hey, can you back the

912
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 4: fuck off?

913
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: You know?

914
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: And he never does that to me.

915
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: What is your real therapist tell you about this?

916
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: She?

917
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 4: Uh, she told me last night I had a hard profession.

918
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: She told me, because she thinks, and she's probably right

919
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 4: that it all comes back to anxiety, right, there's some

920
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: sort of right, there's some sort of fear right associated

921
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: with whatever it is that I'm trying to control. And

922
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 4: so she told me last night, she said, hey, you

923
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: should personify it, like personify it in your head. And

924
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: so now I'm over here like having this image of

925
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 4: like Gollum, you know, and Lord of the Rings, where

926
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: like you've got Snegel and you've got Gallum, and then

927
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: maybe anxiety's my Gollum and Sneagel to him, you know

928
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: who I am, right, But I'm talking to this thing.

929
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: I don't know how helpful that's going to be, but

930
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm willing to try that. Like maybe I can talk

931
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: to the anxiety and I can talk to the fear.

932
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: But I'm concerned I'm never going to be able to

933
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: get to a point where there is no Gollumn voice

934
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: in the head, you know what I mean. Like, I

935
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: want to get to a point where I'm no longer

936
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: having to have that internal dialogue. I don't know how

937
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: to not not want to worry or not want to control.

938
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: Tell me more about that Galumn voice? What is it? Yeah?

939
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: What's saying?

940
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

941
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: So I mean, like, you know, I don't know if

942
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 4: you have anxiety or not. Like I've heard you talk

943
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: sometimes about your own ship, so so I don't know

944
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 4: if you've experienced this, but it's that it's that little

945
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: voice in your head like everything's going right and then

946
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: like a person sends you like a like a three

947
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: word text when you're expecting a five word text, and

948
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: there's that little voice in your head that's like, oh,

949
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: they must they must hate you, you know, that's the

950
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 4: friendship's over right there. You said no to one thing

951
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: and now they hate you. Know, that's the goalumn voice, right,

952
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 4: It's like it's feeding you this negativity mm hmm yeah.

953
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: And I like, I just want to not hear that anymore.

954
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 4: I want to, you know, like, how do you get

955
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: to a point where you where you no longer have

956
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: that that little voice that just makes you want to

957
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 4: want to just manage things, want to take control of things.

958
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an interesting thing. I deal.

959
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: I deal a lot with anxiety, and I've been very recently,

960
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: even just on a journey, I've how to kind of

961
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: get those thoughts out of my head and whatnot and

962
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: what I mean to be frank, now that you're making

963
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: me think about it, It's like, what gets me out

964
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 3: of that is like being in the present moment of

965
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: whatever it is I'm doing. And that's easier sometimes and

966
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: harder sometimes.

967
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: Because like how do you do that?

968
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: How do you pull yourself out of it?

969
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, Well, if I'm like sitting idly right,

970
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just my brain's just going to go to

971
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: horrible anxious places. But if I'm in the flow state,

972
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: if I'm like actually doing something to get my brain

973
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: out of that, uh, you know, I won't be so

974
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 3: focused on the anxiety. I mean, that's life, right, Life

975
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: is a series of trying to avoid thinking about your

976
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: own death and then you die. And so that's just like,

977
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: how do you distract yourself? Really, that's what you're trying

978
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: to do, is distract yourself from this anxiety.

979
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: And how you do that? I don't I really don't

980
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: know what typically sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

981
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: How do you distract yourself in those moments?

982
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 5: What what do you turn to?

983
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: Let's see.

984
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: The actual answer is I uh, I masturbate and eat

985
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: shitty food and go on fucking TikTok. That's the real answers.

986
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean those are my bad ones, but

987
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: I you know, in other ways. I I'll lately I've

988
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: been like, you know, fucking exercising and that helps.

989
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: It's why people exercise same.

990
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: That's been really helpful for me.

991
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: Too, dude, That's what games are fucking great for that.

992
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: But but again, I don't know what the hell was

993
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 3: I was.

994
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: I gonna say, I think you're gonna ask me a question,

995
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 4: and then I was going to ask you a.

996
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: Question about what are you typically doing? Uh? When anxiety

997
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: creeps up on you anything.

998
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: I mean literally anything like truly, it's it's everywhere. It's

999
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: it's usually situational, right, It's like maybe I'm at work

1000
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking about whatever, and then the anxiety that's

1001
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: in I mean and tracing it back, right, the anxiety

1002
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 4: usually comes back to very reasonable things. It's usually Okay,

1003
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm concerned about money, or I'm concerned about you know. Uh,

1004
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: it's like maintaining my my partner's happiness or my own happiness.

1005
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 4: And I know that I'm not responsible for my husband's happiness.

1006
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: Like I know that right consciously, but like it's this

1007
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 4: little code toxic codependency trait that I have where I

1008
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 4: think I'm responsible and the goblins. You know that the

1009
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: gall and brain said, I'm responsible.

1010
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: Did your therapist tell you anything else? Did your therapist

1011
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: tell you anything else that was helpful except to imagine

1012
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: that you're magel.

1013
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: She didn't specifically say that. That was my interpretation of it.

1014
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 4: But you know, we're still new. We're new into this therapy.

1015
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: They've been doing it for a couple of months, and yeah,

1016
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: not not much. Als decides that yet. She's she's impressed

1017
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 4: that I'm acknowledging my problems. And I think that right

1018
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 4: now we're in the kind of like good for you.

1019
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: You're realizing you have an issue. Now we got to

1020
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 4: figure out how to solve it. Yeah, it's freaking tough, dude.

1021
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 3: M what are you anxious about? I know you've kind

1022
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: of talked about it at the beginning of this, but like.

1023
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: Like, really, dig it. Here's another thing. Here's another thing

1024
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 2: I do when I get anxious. And I actually.

1025
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: Don't know if this is helpful or not, but I

1026
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: just follow my anxiety.

1027
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: I just follow the thread, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

1028
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: like you're.

1029
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: Worried about money, you know, I'm like, all right, well,

1030
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: what happens if I go broke? Then maybe this will happen,

1031
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: then this will happen, then this will happen this, But

1032
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: I just follow it until it's like, you know, it

1033
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: kind of runs out of steam.

1034
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: Right, it loses its power its.

1035
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: Saying I don't know if that's healthy or not, because

1036
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: that's that's some people would call that catastrophizing, right, That's

1037
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: kind of what following your anxiety is.

1038
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I think that not knowing

1039
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: is almost more anxiety inducing, Right, So I feel like

1040
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: that's actually kind of helpful. Like, let's trace it. What

1041
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: would happen if the worst case scenario occurred?

1042
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: Like yeah, right?

1043
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: And often often when you trace it, you realize that

1044
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: the worst case scenario is, you know, is livable.

1045
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: It's not that bad.

1046
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: It's no, no, you're You're totally right, dude, you're right.

1047
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: And then there's the other there's the stoic I mean,

1048
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: you should read it. Read up on some.

1049
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: Stoic philosophy is really really helpful for anxiety.

1050
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: Is one of them?

1051
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 5: Subreded about that?

1052
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: And then I didn't pursue that further, but I'm I

1053
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 4: should definitely do that, thanks man.

1054
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1055
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: And then because one of the I've lately I've actually

1056
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: been battling some stuff with the Stoic philosophy because in

1057
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 3: some areas I don't believe it, but anxiety is one

1058
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: where I do, because like, well there's this there's a

1059
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: big thing in Stoic philosophy of like don't suffer imagined troubles,

1060
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: right like all like anxiety is like it's the suffering

1061
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: of an anticipation of an event. How fucking stupid is that?

1062
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 6: It's so stupid because it hasn't even happened, and so

1063
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 6: you're just you're suffering deeply from from something that hasn't

1064
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 6: even happened.

1065
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: It's one thing to suffer because of a thing that happened.

1066
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 3: But anxiety is like an if you even if you

1067
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: know a bad thing is going to happen, your anxiety

1068
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: over the inevitability of the bad thing is just you

1069
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: suffering more than is necessary.

1070
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's a foolish thing. I was listening. I'm

1071
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: listening to a podcast right now. Shout out.

1072
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout out a podcast I've been listening to.

1073
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's doctor K, who actually should get on

1074
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: my podcast at some point.

1075
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 2: He fucking rocks Doctor K. He's going, you know, doctor

1076
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: k Yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he's great. He's great.

1077
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: And he said, crap, he said something to me. You know,

1078
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: he didn't say this to me. He said this on

1079
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 3: a podcast. He said that like the brain is can

1080
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 3: like like the anxiety, the brain can do this thing

1081
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: where your anxiety over a negative event is just as

1082
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: bad as if the negative event actually happened. So your

1083
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 3: creator in your brain negative events that you're suffering from,

1084
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: even though the negative event actually isn't even happening. That's

1085
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: in my mind, Jesus Christ, it's not even real.

1086
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 4: I no one has ever phrased it like that to

1087
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 4: me before. So that's actually like, that's that is kind

1088
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: of crazy when you really think about it.

1089
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, try that at the end of

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00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: the day. I you know, look, man, I've listened to

1091
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: tons of podcasts of you know, done whatever, and I

1092
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: you know, I still get get anxious and I'm still

1093
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: dealing with it myself. But uh, yeah, that's something I've

1094
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: been thinking about lately. I'm gonna try to think about more.

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Speaker 4: I love that, man, I'm absolutely going to try that.

1096
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for that, for that advice. You do.

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Speaker 1: You do good work.

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Speaker 2: I don't know I I don't it was about it.

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00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: I get, I get, I get to breast sometimes because

1101
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: I think. I'm like, I don't is any of this

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00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: ship all this at a certain point? Is it just

1103
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: like you just deal with it?

1104
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: Like I don't. Do you ever do you ever actually

1105
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: get cured?

1106
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: Do you ever you imagine a future version of yourself

1107
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: that is totally living a beautiful, amazing, perfect life? But

1108
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: it never comes? And I'm like, is that becau? Is

1109
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: that my fault because I didn't do any work to

1110
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: actually create that? Or is it because you actually that

1111
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: doesn't even exist? But then in the acceptance that that

1112
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: doesn't exist, can you find peace?

1113
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1114
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know that.

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00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 4: I think I think that's right. I think in the

1116
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: second thing, is that's right? I mean, because it's a

1117
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: brain issue, right, It's like a that's like a wiring issue.

1118
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 4: But I think that if you if you can accept it,

1119
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: and if you can say, hey, I'm going to manage it,

1120
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 4: then you can find that piece. Well. Don't play that

1121
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: very inspirational.

1122
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 7: I like it.

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: Don't play the Golem video game. I heard it's really bad.

1124
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: I also heard it was really bad. I'm kind of

1125
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 4: tempted to.

1126
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 2: Play it because of that, though, go play it sounds fun.

1127
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: Hey, I had a quick question for you before we

1128
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: do the sign off thing, which is that my husband,

1129
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: he's an artist, and he was thinking about make an

1130
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: art piece for you to bring to your Seattle show.

1131
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh no if yeah, So if he

1132
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 4: did that, how could we get that to you? Like,

1133
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: if there's somebody we could hand it to at the show?

1134
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Is there something?

1135
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: Oh well, after after after after every show, after every show,

1136
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: unless if I have like another show that night, I

1137
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: stand around and I meet everyone, so.

1138
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: Oh no ship, Okay, cool, so we can just hand

1139
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: it to you.

1140
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just hand I'll see you there. Yeah,

1141
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: at every show. I there's some of the shows have

1142
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: like VIP tickets, but that's I do the meet and

1143
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: greet like for everyone I don't have, it's not the

1144
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: paid to meet and greet. So like if you buy

1145
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: a ticket, it's like if you if you're at the

1146
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: show and you are you're willing to stand in a

1147
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: line of a bunch of people, Uh, well I'll we will,

1148
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: we will inevitably meet.

1149
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: We will stand in line for you guys.

1150
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, No, that sounds awesome. Thank you so much

1151
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: for doing that.

1152
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean, don't think me. I think my husband,

1153
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: and he's pretty excited to see your show. So we

1154
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 4: can't wait.

1155
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: Rock roll. Wait, are you going to the early one

1156
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: or the late one?

1157
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 4: Remember the late one?

1158
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: Oh?

1159
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: Perfect, okay, because I'm not gonna be able to meet

1160
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: people from the late from the early one, but the

1161
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 3: late one.

1162
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I'm there.

1163
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: I figured, you know, screw the school day. The next day,

1164
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: get gos in town, so we got to check out

1165
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 4: the late show. Figure, don't get more unhinged in the

1166
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: early show could.

1167
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: Be wrong, though, rock and Roll. No, I'm excited. I will.

1168
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: I'll I'll see you there and then you can tell

1169
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: me that you were the Gollum Lady and I'll be like,

1170
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: oh shit, I remember that.

1171
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

1172
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 5: That's what I will tell you.

1173
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: I love.

1174
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: That is who I am.

1175
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: Now, by the way, I'm just gonna say this. I

1176
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: I know, okay, I know people.

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1178
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 3: People think I don't care because I don't remember anyone's name,

1179
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: But I.

1180
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 2: Swear to God. I swear then I don't.

1181
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't remember his name, but but but I swear

1182
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: to God. I do these the meet and greets, and

1183
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: people will come up to me and be like, hey,

1184
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: you're definitely not gonna remember this, but three years ago

1185
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: we talked about this, and I'll be like, I fucking

1186
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: actually do remember.

1187
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't remember anyone, but I remember the calls. Let's see.

1188
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: There was a guy.

1189
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: You don't need to justify names to me at all.

1190
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 4: I'm a teacher. I can't remember his names.

1191
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: It's awful.

1192
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 4: It takes me three months.

1193
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: There was a guy. It was was in Tampa.

1194
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of you guys who listened

1195
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: to a lot of the podcasts remember.

1196
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: This, but there's a dude who was like in ah crap.

1197
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: He lived in like Alaska or or deep in Canada

1198
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: or something, and he was getting sober and he was

1199
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: like agoraphobic and like hadn't left the house.

1200
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 2: In in years and years and years.

1201
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember this, but I

1202
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: met him at the fucking show and he was like,

1203
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember me, but I was

1204
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: the guy in Alaska. I can't gor phobi And I

1205
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: was like, I remember that, and he and there he was.

1206
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: He gave us out of his house I don't know.

1207
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: I think he went. I was like, what the fuck

1208
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: are you doing in Tampa from Alaska? And he's like,

1209
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: we came for the show. And I was like, holy shit. Anyway, anyway,

1210
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 3: you did.

1211
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 4: You cured him a phobia. Dude.

1212
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: You know what.

1213
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you so much for talking to me, Lyle.

1214
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.

1215
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: Hey, take care, man, you have a blessed one.

1216
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: Hey you too, man.

1217
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: Goodbye. Hello folks, it's Lyle here. That's the end of

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01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,000
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Speaker 8: One day, at four o'clock in the morning, two dudes

1229
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 8: came into my room and they basically kidnapped me. They

1230
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 8: told me, you're going to go to Hawaii, or you

1231
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 8: can go to the desert. And I'd just why. My

1232
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 8: grandmother came in with them and was like crying and shit, sorry,

1233
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 8: am I going like too fast?

1234
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: You know I'm not a real therapist, right, I do?

1235
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: I do?

1236
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: Okay. I just wanted to make sure because yeah, this

1237
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: this is pretty deep ship. It's pretty deep ship. So

1238
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: you went, you got you were.

1239
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: This is one of those like your parents orchestrate your

1240
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: kidnapping for like troubled children kind of ship.

1241
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's exactly what it was.

1242
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,240
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Speaker 3: episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right,

1246
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: I have nothing else to say, goes on the line,

1247
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: taking his own calls every nine.

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Speaker 2: Goes to he's teaching you a life