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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders a Monday YouTube edition, Tom

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Speaker 1: Pilaicero alongside. Let's see if I can do this, Mike

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Speaker 1: Garafalo and Ian Rappaport. I nail it. No, you guys

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Speaker 1: moved again. All Right, We're gonna get the the Brady

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Speaker 1: Bune thing going here soon enough, all right, tons to

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Speaker 1: get to We got injury updates, We've got the quarterback changes.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start out by just the biggest takeaway.

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Speaker 1: It was another wild week in the NFL Wild Sunday

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Speaker 1: in Week three, Judy Matista, your biggest takeaway, Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys defense is not fixed. So week one

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Speaker 2: where we thought, oh the defense, it looks great, maybe

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Speaker 2: that was a bit of an illusion, and maybe that

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Speaker 2: had more than two with the Cleveland Browns than I

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Speaker 2: did with the Cowboys. But they still cannot stop the run.

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Speaker 2: They just got absolutely crushed in the running game by

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. When you have Derrek Henry and Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: that can happen. But that's two weeks in a row

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Speaker 2: that they cannot stop the run, and of course that

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Speaker 2: just completely takes their pass rush out of the game

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Speaker 2: because they fell way behind early. That's sort of Another

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Speaker 2: issue that we can get into is they look really

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Speaker 2: kind of lifeless for the first three quarters of the game,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: they came to life, mostly because of Dak, but the

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Speaker 2: defense just could not stop the Ravens for most of

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Speaker 2: the game. And I mean, I don't really know what

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Speaker 2: you do when you can't run the ball and you

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Speaker 2: can't stop the run. But they're in a bad way

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Speaker 2: right now. They've got the Giants coming up, and so

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, maybe they do better in that case,

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Speaker 2: but a big picture, that defense is a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would say as far as the Cowboys go,

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Speaker 3: I know, the defense is a problem. They are very talented,

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Speaker 3: they have really good coaches. I think they will be okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the Ravens offensive line looked a lot better.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is Lamar Jackson. Derrick Henry looked like exactly

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Speaker 3: the kind of guy that the Baltimore Ravens thought they

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Speaker 3: were signing. And the fact that he's on my fantasy team,

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Speaker 3: obviously that doesn't matter. That's not why I'm saying any

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Speaker 3: of this. I'm just saying, like it was pretty awesome

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Speaker 3: to watch and go Derrick Henry. I feel like the

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Speaker 3: run game is a little more troubling to me for Dallas.

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Speaker 3: And I know the Jerry Jones comments about like we

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Speaker 3: couldn't afford Derrick Henry. I mean, obviously they could afford

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, they chose to allocate their money elsewhere. He

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Speaker 3: is the same agent as Dak. Prescott imagined that probably

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Speaker 3: somehow could have gotten that done if they had wanted to.

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Speaker 3: They cannot run the ball at all, and seeing Dak

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Speaker 3: Dewity did and lead them back as great Mike, But

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Speaker 3: the fact that they literally are one dimensional offense and

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Speaker 3: seemed to be okay with it is something where I

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Speaker 3: don't anyway an issue to watch certainly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was impressed with the Ravens' ability

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Speaker 4: to bounce back in this one. And I'll focus specifically

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Speaker 4: on another big game for Kyle van Noy and what

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Speaker 4: an interesting season it's been for him so far. A

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Speaker 4: coming off nine last year, which was a career high,

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Speaker 4: and to do it just after suffering an orbital bone

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Speaker 4: just such a big part of what they did yesterday

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Speaker 4: it seems like everywhere he goes, the defense starts to

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Speaker 4: able to provide as a veteran presidence going on thirty

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Speaker 4: Just a great job, Kyle van Noy And if you're

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Speaker 1: But guy, I saw a tweet for one of kyby

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Speaker 1: of someone, please explain to me how Kyle was on

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Speaker 1: and it is very weird for a long time. In

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Speaker 1: practice squad right now. In Delvin Cook, everything I've heard

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Speaker 1: he looks really good in practice, just taking some time

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Speaker 1: to Thursday, Mike, coming right back to you, your big

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Speaker 4: I'll go rams here. And we had talked last week

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Speaker 4: but this was a challenging situation for him given all

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Speaker 4: But to have that mentality during the week leading up

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Speaker 4: you're fourteen points behind and you see the bottom of

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Speaker 4: that is certainly pre dates Sean McVay. So just everything

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Speaker 4: Like you come out of that game and go, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, we've got a ways that we can grow,

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Speaker 4: and you can grow when you get these guys back

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Speaker 4: from injury. But really, really great job by Sean McVay

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Speaker 4: and those guys not breaking under those circumstances yesterday. Still alive,

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Speaker 4: can get the Cavalry back. There's a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 4: hitting you. Great job by those guys. All the kudos

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, to me, it's sort of comical

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Speaker 3: same thing about the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Except it really is true.

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Speaker 3: I Mean, there were definitely times watching that game on

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Speaker 3: Two of them were in this game. I think we'll

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Speaker 3: think there's another one there. And it is unbelievable, Judy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And on the flip side, that was like a

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Speaker 2: Right when you have that kind of lead, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Those guys should be coming back, you know. I feel

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the Seahawks later in the show,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that we're three weeks into the season

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Speaker 1: Injuries are a huge part of it. In your big

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Speaker 3: So I want to go all the way to the bottom.

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Speaker 3: The Carolina Panthers are not a joke. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: they're no joke. We're not there yet, but they are

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Speaker 1: This was a very difference, just real sure singuistically, I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I got it. I would say, right Now,

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Speaker 3: the Vikings are no joke. The Seahawks are no joke, right,

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers are not a joke.

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Speaker 1: So you go to the comedy seller in New York

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Speaker 3: I actually was almost sent I was watching uh norm

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Speaker 3: But that's just a different topic for a different whatever.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Carolina Panthers very famously Ben Spryce Young

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Speaker 3: to come back. I do believe he will be their

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Speaker 3: But the fact that they changed one position and everything

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean we still have we heard from

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Speaker 5: And I feel for you, Andy Dalton or Bryce Young.

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Speaker 3: I've been both. I've been both, and it's when and

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of layers to this, Okay. The

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Speaker 3: You know he was gonna call, but his team's always

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Speaker 1: to the Insiders, Tom Pelissio, Judy Batista, Ian Rappaport, and

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Speaker 2: other stuff better. You know, they need to run the

434
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Speaker 2: ball more. But the defense is so so good that

435
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Speaker 2: you can keep playing like this and win games. Can

436
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Speaker 2: you keep doing it this way all season long?

437
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

438
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Speaker 2: I sort of feel like the league right now we're

439
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Speaker 2: seeing the passing numbers decline and the rushing.

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Speaker 5: Numbers come up.

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like the league is sort of correcting

442
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Speaker 2: right now, where maybe you can win like this deep

443
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Speaker 2: into a playoff run if the defense can keep playing

444
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Speaker 2: like that, if the defense can stay healthy. They do

445
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Speaker 2: have some injury issues right that. Their offensive line is

446
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Speaker 2: banged up. Lots of teams have banked up offensive lines now,

447
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Speaker 2: but there's one of them. So you know it's going

448
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Speaker 2: to be a trial to get the running game going.

449
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Speaker 2: But I mean, if they keep going like this, there's

450
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Speaker 2: no way you can pull the plug on Justin Fields.

451
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this really does feel like maybe the

453
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Speaker 3: best Steelers team we've seen in I don't know, several

454
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Speaker 3: years to me. And the thing I really like about

455
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Speaker 3: Justin Fields and look like he's always been talented. He's

456
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Speaker 3: always he's had some ups and downs. Obviously last year

457
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Speaker 3: had had some ups and had plenty of downs, so

458
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Speaker 3: much so that the Bears, I think, very confidently moved

459
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Speaker 3: on through him, chose Callabilliams, who is also extremely talented,

460
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Speaker 3: who has not obviously yet put it together through three games.

461
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Speaker 3: But what Justin Fields is doing is exactly what the

462
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Speaker 3: coach is telling And this is a very well coached team.

463
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Speaker 3: On defense, obviously we're seeing it, but on offense with

464
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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith and his coach is there, and Field is

465
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Speaker 3: doing what they tell them. And there is something to

466
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Speaker 3: be said for playing exactly as the people in charge

467
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Speaker 3: want you to play. First of all, it sort of

468
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Speaker 3: eliminates any excuses. If you're doing exactly what they say,

469
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Speaker 3: then they can't really get mad at you, but they know.

470
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Speaker 3: It's like they know how they want to win. They're

471
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Speaker 3: keeping the ball out of harm's way. They are, I think,

472
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Speaker 3: trying to trying to run it with some success. That

473
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Speaker 3: Fields is running at plenty. He has been accurate, he

474
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Speaker 3: has been efficients. This is to me what I thought

475
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Speaker 3: best case scenario for Justin Fields would be. And like

476
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Speaker 3: we were all at except for Mike, we were all

477
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Speaker 3: at Steelers together at training camp.

478
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Speaker 1: Also in a weekly segment. Hey remember that time at

479
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Speaker 1: one time.

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Speaker 3: At steel right when we were all there and Mike

481
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Speaker 3: was not there, And it's nice to hear all the

482
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Speaker 3: hyperbole about how good Fields looked Mike. Was it fake?

483
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Speaker 3: It was all real, and now we're seeing it.

484
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Speaker 4: TJ. Watt's my defensive player of the year so far,

485
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Speaker 4: three sacks and three games. Got robbed of what one, two,

486
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Speaker 4: two in Atlanta? I should know. I covered that game.

487
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Speaker 4: I forgot already. It's like Francesa. They can't believe how

488
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Speaker 4: fast the season goes. They had another one of those

489
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Speaker 4: clips today. Those are amazing. I love those. We're in

490
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Speaker 4: week four week that's a terrible mic, but no, TJ.

491
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Speaker 4: Watt fantastic. If you haven't seen the interview yet, and

492
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Speaker 4: I don't know a good job by CBS doing this.

493
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Speaker 4: I don't know that I've ever seen a pregame interview

494
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Speaker 4: on the pregame show TJ Watt JJ Watt JJ gave

495
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Speaker 4: him a little.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

497
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, regardless, whatever, play to your strengths. We do it.

498
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Speaker 4: We try to h We had time on pre game.

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Speaker 3: Good job Omar.

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Speaker 4: No the arrival that's different. This was a remote on

501
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Speaker 4: the headset and after he had completed warm ups. So

502
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Speaker 4: good job CBS, and it was good. It was good TV.

503
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Speaker 4: I was on our own pregame show at the time,

504
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Speaker 4: so I didn't see it till much later. But point being,

505
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Speaker 4: he gave him a little what because they're having a baby,

506
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Speaker 4: so he gave him a what No, a ninety jersey

507
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Speaker 4: that said dad instead of what on the back, and

508
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Speaker 4: he said, I appreciate you trying to get in my

509
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Speaker 4: headspace right before the game, and he didn't. TJ Watt

510
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Speaker 4: performed once again, So I just you know, the two

511
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Speaker 4: things you hear about the Steelers won, the skepticism that

512
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Speaker 4: they can keep winning this way. The other that you

513
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Speaker 4: hear from coaches around the league when when is Field's

514
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Speaker 4: going to start making some mistakes. When is he can't

515
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Speaker 4: possibly keep playing this clean football. I don't know, man,

516
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Speaker 4: he keeps doing it and they're doing a great job

517
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Speaker 4: of coaching it up and calling it. So I think

518
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Speaker 4: you can. And if you're a defensive coach who's saying that,

519
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Speaker 4: let's see if you're playing the Steelers coming up and

520
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Speaker 4: you can make that happen.

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Speaker 1: I was just looking at Justin Field's stats yesterday because

522
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Speaker 1: I had to put in a waiver claim because somehow

523
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Speaker 1: he's still not on a team in my cap keeper league,

524
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Speaker 1: which I don't think anybody in my league watching this otherwise,

525
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: please don't outbid me. Twenty five to thirty two passing

526
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Speaker 1: for two hundred and forty five yards, Russ six times

527
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Speaker 1: for six yards. He did have a touchdown, but it's

528
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Speaker 1: notable in my mind that those are really efficient passing stats.

529
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Speaker 1: But also we haven't seen him make the big plays

530
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Speaker 1: with his legs. You know it's still in there. But

531
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Speaker 1: you have to credit Smith with the job of getting

532
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Speaker 1: him to play within himself, play within the scope of

533
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Speaker 1: the offense, which in Chicago he had a lot more

534
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Speaker 1: highlight reel plays. It was kind of all over the place,

535
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Speaker 1: A lot of it was outside of kind of what

536
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Speaker 1: they actually wanted to do. Mike Tomlin so far has

537
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Speaker 1: had success with the plan which was pretty unique, which

538
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Speaker 1: was bringing Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, have Russell Wilson

539
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Speaker 1: atop the flag pole, have Fields there to push him.

540
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Speaker 1: It's played out completely differently than Mike Tomlin was even

541
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Speaker 1: playing on a week before the start of the season

542
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Speaker 1: when he named Russell Wilson startout and Fields was supposed

543
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Speaker 1: to be the backup. But they're getting the same type

544
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Speaker 1: of play from Fields that they would have expected from

545
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, which you know is obviously the ideal scenario.

546
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Speaker 1: You're talking about technically playing a backup quarterback for a

547
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Speaker 1: good chunk of the season here. Meanwhile, less than ideal

548
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Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins, also in their backup quarterbacks. Skylar

549
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Speaker 1: Thompson starts that game yesterday Mike in place of tow

550
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Speaker 1: a tongue of viola. It feels like it's already been

551
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Speaker 1: a month since two has been out. This is actually

552
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Speaker 1: the first game since because it was a Thursday night game.

553
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: Ten days later, Scalart Thompson goes out there, he gets

554
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: beat into a pulp. He takes multiple shots to his ribs.

555
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: He's in tons of pain, has to come out of

556
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Speaker 1: the game. Suddenly, Tim Boyle is out on the field.

557
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: They signed Snoopuntley to come up to the fifty three

558
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Speaker 1: two is not playing until least late October, even though

559
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Speaker 1: he intends to be back here. This is another scenario

560
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Speaker 1: where we can talk all we want about, Hey, go

561
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: trade for Bresh and whatever. It's hard if you're training

562
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Speaker 1: for somebody right now. That's somebody who's not playing elsewhere

563
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Speaker 1: for a reason here, But the Dolphins are gonna have

564
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Speaker 1: to come up with some kind of answers, especially in

565
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Speaker 1: the event that they don't have Scalar Thompson available this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me just jump in because I need

567
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Speaker 3: to run here.

568
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Speaker 1: Why not?

569
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Speaker 3: And like once, well it's four thirty, you know, I

570
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: got to run a fourth there. Anyway, Here's what I

571
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: would say. I know Mike McDaniel is getting a lot

572
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: of heat locally, and you know, starting to get the

573
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: questions that everyone sort of asks is like, you know,

574
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Speaker 3: are you gonna give up play calling? Like this is

575
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: one of the best play cards in the NFL. And

576
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Speaker 3: the fact that they that he doesn't have a good

577
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: record with his backup quarterback is like, that's almost everyone

578
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: around the league. It's not everyone. Again, we've seen Green Bay,

579
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: We've seen a couple other teams do it, but like

580
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: this is normal if they just need to tread water

581
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Speaker 3: until they get to a back. And as you mentioned,

582
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Speaker 3: it does seem too is going to be back sooner

583
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Speaker 3: rather than later, and certainly he does want to come back.

584
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Speaker 3: The Dobbins have a lot of playmakers. They they and

585
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Speaker 3: first of all, I wouldn't be surprised to see a

586
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: little Snoop Huntley as well, whether in a full time

587
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: role or maybe just a splash. But they have highly paid,

588
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: very good, very talented receivers. It is on them now

589
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: to say whatever we need to do. We need to

590
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Speaker 3: get the ball in those guys hands and listen before

591
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Speaker 3: I go. The one thing I think is really.

592
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a glitch or if

593
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: that was intentional, but that was the perfect way to say, now, Mike,

594
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Speaker 1: please please.

595
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Speaker 4: Well no, I need to know what happened there.

596
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Speaker 1: He said.

597
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Speaker 4: He said by saying he said, bye, I want to

598
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Speaker 4: know what happened. He also called merk, let me jump

599
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Speaker 4: in very be.

600
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Speaker 1: Careful, know one else is in that text strip.

601
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Speaker 4: But imagine I checked it. I double checked it on

602
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Speaker 4: the mike on the Dolphins. Uh yeah, Well, the quarterbacks

603
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Speaker 4: who aren't playing elsewhere is part of the reason for

604
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Speaker 4: why a trade can't happen. The other part is, I mean,

605
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: we've seen it with Josh Dobbs right arriving, but then

606
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: that's not really long lasted. He's not explaining what happened,

607
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: uh to arrive as a quarterback mid season. And and

608
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Speaker 4: not only not only like we say, all they can

609
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: learn to playbook and get acclimated to play, but it's

610
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Speaker 4: also all those reps that you take in the spring

611
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: in the summer to get that timing down with guys.

612
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: So that makes it difficult for a quarterback to come out.

613
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: Plus you're expecting to a back. I mean, Tom, you

614
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: reported on it yesterday on game day morning. Everything he's

615
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: doing to kind of stay engaged and traveling with the

616
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 4: team because the hope is and the expectation is that

617
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Speaker 4: he gets cleared sometime in their future and he will

618
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Speaker 4: be back. So why would why would you make a movie?

619
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Speaker 4: You just gotta like I talked about with the Rams earlier,

620
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: you gotta find wins you've got to find it within

621
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Speaker 4: your team, within yourself, within your roster as it currently exists,

622
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Speaker 4: to get some wins right now, to keep yourself afloat

623
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Speaker 4: so that when you get the cavalry back, or in

624
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Speaker 4: this case, you get the quarterback back, then you've got

625
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: a chance to make some things happen. I mean, Tyreek

626
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Hill had a ball yesterday hit him right in the

627
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 4: hands on a on a quick look screen that they

628
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: were trying to run and just boot run up. Everybody's

629
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: got to pick it up with to a being.

630
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Speaker 1: Down and really quick too, just to clarify in too,

631
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Speaker 1: and I explained this on game day morning. The doctors

632
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: have cleared him to travel. They've encouraged him, Hey, if

633
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: you're feeling good, go about normal activities obviously other than

634
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: being on the football field. Here. So he's on the sideline,

635
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: he's on the headset. From everything I heard, he was

636
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: in meetings and did a lot of the other normal

637
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: stuff this week. That's what Tua wants to do, judy,

638
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: which all points the finger toward Hey, if he gets

639
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: the answers that he's hoping to get here coming up

640
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: as he visits specialists, he intends to be back on

641
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Speaker 1: the field. But at some point you also get to

642
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Speaker 1: a point in the season where if the Dolphins are

643
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: two and six or something, the season itself, the ship

644
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: may have sailed at that point, which really brings this

645
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Speaker 1: next month or so into focus from a football perspective.

646
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Speaker 2: Well, this is another case of you've just got to

647
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: tread water, right, I mean, you just can't lose every game.

648
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: You've got to manufacture wins somewhere, and you don't have

649
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: to win all of them, but you've got to win

650
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Speaker 2: a few of them so that the season is so relevant.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I feel like the rush

652
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Speaker 2: to should they go get another quarterback? I feel like

653
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Speaker 2: last year skewed everything right when we saw backup quarterback

654
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Speaker 2: after backup quarterback come in and teams flourish with them, right,

655
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Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Flapo comes off the sofa and they're

656
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Speaker 2: in the play. You know, they look amazing. That was

657
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Speaker 2: the aberration.

658
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Speaker 5: That is not the norm.

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Speaker 2: It was so amazing because that doesn't happen, and so

660
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Speaker 2: you just can't think that the Dolphins. And again you

661
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Speaker 2: expect him back in relatively short order. I mean we're

662
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Speaker 2: looking at you know, late October, that's a month from

663
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Speaker 2: now like that he's going to be back, so you're

664
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Speaker 2: going to go get somebody. By the time you get

665
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Speaker 2: that guy up to speed, you hope, knock on wood,

666
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Speaker 2: that Tua is cleared and he's back. So they just

667
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Speaker 2: have to hold the fort and they just have to

668
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Speaker 2: find some wins, and there are other guys the playmakers

669
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Speaker 2: have to step up and make plays and carry the

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Speaker 2: load and make life better for whoever the quarterback is

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Speaker 2: in the meantime.

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Speaker 1: Flip side of this, you know, the Seahawks deserve a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit for what they've done so far through

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Speaker 1: the course of this season because also remember right, we

675
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Speaker 1: talked a lot about injuries, but they're playing without Kenneth Walker,

676
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Speaker 1: the third who's like the centerpiece of what they want

677
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Speaker 1: to do offensively or whatever frustrations might have existed in

678
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Speaker 1: past years. You're seeing DK Metcalf get his opportunities and

679
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: the ability to make a big play. You're seeing Jackson

680
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Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba get a lot of touches and be

681
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Speaker 1: hyper involved in that offense. And you're seeing the defense

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Speaker 1: do more or less I think what you anticipated they

683
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Speaker 1: were going to be able to do under Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 1: So you know, friend of the show. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the only head coach who has come on the show

686
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Speaker 1: twice is in fact Mike McDonald. So good message to

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Speaker 1: the other thirty one right now, you should not just

688
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Speaker 1: come on once on this show. You should come on

689
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Speaker 1: multiple times and move on or a course on NFL

690
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Speaker 1: Network every Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday nights. Thursdays, we're on

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Speaker 1: fast streaming platforms as well as YouTube Mondays. This is

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Speaker 1: a YouTube show. Shameless plugs all the way around. We

693
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Speaker 1: got a big game coming up in week four. It

694
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Speaker 1: is the Chiefs and the Chargers. We also had well,

695
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Speaker 1: besides the turf monster that got Patrick Mahomes now was

696
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Speaker 1: a little bit ugly on the extended Neil does maybe

697
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. If you want someone to run around for

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Speaker 1: ten seconds then to take a knee, maybe give him

699
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Speaker 1: those reps. Moving forward here, but we've had a significant

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Speaker 1: injury situation like that continues to linger with Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: You know, all week it sounded like he was pushing

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Speaker 1: to play. We reported Saturday morning there was optimism he

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Speaker 1: was going to be able to go. He was out there,

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Speaker 1: he made some plays, but as soon as he started

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Speaker 1: getting twisted up, you could see the level of pain

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Speaker 1: he was in with that high ankle sprain. Where do

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Speaker 1: we anticipate this goes knowing there's a pretty significant amount

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Speaker 1: on the line in Week four here against Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: Well, we talked about it on Sunday morning and the

710
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Speaker 4: Chargers not using the third quarterback emergency designation for one

711
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Speaker 4: of their quarterbacks because they wanted the maximum flexibility with

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Speaker 4: all those three quarterbacks. So they knew going in what

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Speaker 4: the potential scenario was, the potential situation was. I'd say

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Speaker 4: they probably should count their blessings. It took as long

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Speaker 4: as it did for Herbert to leave that game with injury,

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Speaker 4: I was expecting, may be it could happen earlier in

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Speaker 4: the game. So the read that I've gotten on this

718
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Speaker 4: is that they're going to kind of approach it the

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Speaker 4: way they did last week, which is, you know, put

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Speaker 4: them through treatment, take a take a look at him

721
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Speaker 4: throughout the week, try to put him in a position

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Speaker 4: to to start this game. He may miss the first practice,

723
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Speaker 4: he may be limited throughout the rest of the week,

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Speaker 4: but the hope is that he'll get a chance here.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little skeptical, especially when you've got Taylor Heineke,

726
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Speaker 4: who's been able to win football games as a as

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Speaker 4: a fill in slash backup quarterback, a spot starter, if

728
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Speaker 4: you will, which he was more than that at one

729
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Speaker 4: point in Washington. I get that, but I just feel like,

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Speaker 4: with the foot and now the ankle, and a team

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Speaker 4: that has a chance to make a playoff push, wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you want to be smart about this rather than put

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Speaker 4: them in the same situation we shall see. They're not

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Speaker 4: gonna give it give it away this early in the week,

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Speaker 4: that's for sure, especially with such a difficult matchup coming

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Speaker 4: up here. So I expect this to be something that's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a topic on The Insider seven pm Eastern Tuesday, Friday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: Wednesday and Friday on NFL Network and Thursday on Fast

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Speaker 4: TV wherever you get your fast TV if that's slow

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Speaker 4: TV fast.

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Speaker 1: Platforms, which you can get through a variety of free apps.

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Speaker 4: Not slow TV and free free ad supported TV, or

743
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Speaker 4: as we called it when I was growing up.

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Speaker 5: TV exactly TV. The Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we say this every year, but the

746
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Speaker 2: Chargers have a rash of injuries again, right, I mean,

747
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Speaker 2: yesterday looked like one of the like Joey Bosa played

748
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Speaker 2: like one snap, I think right one snap and he

749
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Speaker 2: was gone. Sean Slater's hurt like Justin Herbert, Like this

750
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Speaker 2: feels like an every year thing where it's like again,

751
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Speaker 2: you just have to hold the ford until the guys

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Speaker 2: get back. In this case, the Justin Herbert one was bad.

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Speaker 2: I can't, I don't. I don't understand why you would

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Speaker 2: ever think.

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Speaker 5: About rushing him back.

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Speaker 2: Like I know this is a big game obviously, but

757
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: this is a team that has aspirations beyond you know,

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Speaker 2: week four, and you need him, You need him intact

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Speaker 2: if any of those aspirations have a prayer of coming truth.

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Speaker 2: So I mean watching him yesterday was painful even before

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Speaker 2: he ultimately left the field. So it's hard for me

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Speaker 2: to imagine sitting here right now that we see him

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Speaker 2: next week. But I am sure he will give it

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Speaker 2: a go.

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Speaker 1: Well, medical staffs too, you know, everyone like just a

766
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Speaker 1: nervous on the field. If the team doctors don't clear

767
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Speaker 1: me go on the field right then at some point

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Speaker 1: it becomes a conversation between the player and the coaches

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Speaker 1: about how functional do you think it can be? Can

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Speaker 1: you do this? Do you want to do it? Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: He's played through a lot. He's obviously wired to do this.

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Speaker 1: There's probably some part of Jim harbaughther remembers, you know,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety Bears, bless you might the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: Bears or whatever. You know, you've had an ankle spray.

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Speaker 1: There was no high a no, he said, high ankle spray.

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Speaker 1: It was just my ankle. My ankle's in bad shape,

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Speaker 1: and you tape it up and you find a way

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see through the course of the week real

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Speaker 1: quick here, we just got a couple minutes left in

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Speaker 1: this segment. But Mike, in terms of the Chiefs last

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Speaker 1: night and beating the Falcons, I won't even get into

784
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Speaker 1: the headlines and the various tabloids about why Travis Kelcey

785
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Speaker 1: looks so sad on the bench. Was he wiping the

786
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Speaker 1: tear away? Was there something that mighted his personal life

787
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Speaker 1: be affected him. I'm just looking at a Chiefs team

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Speaker 1: that Patrick Obolden said himself, they haven't played that great.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played that great. But I'm like a year

790
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: ago when they were losing games, when they weren't playing

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Speaker 1: very well, they're winning right now, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: they just kind of keep finding away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Rashid Rice really has come on as the

794
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Speaker 4: guy that Patrick Mahomes seems to prefer. And they're designing

795
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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that is suited for his skill set,

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Speaker 4: which is not surprising. That's what the Chiefs do. Hello,

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Speaker 4: We've been saying it for quite some time. But he

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Speaker 4: even with the ball in his hands, what he's able

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Speaker 4: to do the run after the catch, which Travis Kelce

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Speaker 4: certainly has done throughout the course of his career, seems

801
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Speaker 4: like Rashi Rice has been that element for that offense.

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Speaker 4: It's a long season. No one's panicking. Everybody understands that

803
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Speaker 4: Travis Kelce at some point is going to be a

804
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Speaker 4: big part of this offense. Are his numbers ever? Like,

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Speaker 4: is this the Is this the beginning of the decline

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Speaker 4: of Travis Kelce? Probably right? Like at this point, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, at this point in his career. What are

808
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Speaker 4: you expecting? Like good good for him that he staved

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Speaker 4: off the decline to this point in his career. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into what time you talked about.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if he wants to talk about any outside

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Speaker 4: factors that are leading into his place.

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Speaker 1: That was a comment about I'm not speculating, I'm not reporting.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I saw for one particular thing that

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Speaker 1: I follow on Twitter because sometimes they also get police

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Speaker 1: reports and things. It was a headline along the lines

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Speaker 1: of Travis Kelce looks sad during loss. It's like click

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Speaker 1: click click click click click click click click click click.

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Speaker 1: The impressions were about what were the other things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would say this too. Travis Kelce last year didn't

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Speaker 1: look like he had his legs underneath them. The whole season,

822
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Speaker 1: he didn't look like Travis Kelce. Then all of a

823
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Speaker 1: sudden he got in the playoffs and he had one

824
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Speaker 1: good game, and then the AFC Championship game, duty he

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Speaker 1: completely takes over. That was the Travis kelcey we expected.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you get to a certain age you're

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Speaker 1: pacing yourself a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: I would just say this, the Chiefs looked worse at

829
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Speaker 2: this time last year than they do right now, and

830
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Speaker 2: they won the Super Bowl. Everybody gone down, Like we

831
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: were saying last year, We're like, WHOA, the offense is terrible?

832
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Speaker 2: What is going on that nobody can catch the ball?

833
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes looked mad like it was a disaster last

834
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Speaker 2: year at this time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and then they won the Super Bowl. I am

836
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 5: done worrying about the about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Fine, they don't look very good. Patrick Mahons doesn't thin

838
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: they're playing well. Whatever, Fine, get back to me in January.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more from the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders. Tom Pelisero, Judy Batiste, and

841
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Speaker 1: Mike Garrifolo. We'll get to some of these other quarterback

842
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: situations here momentarily, but I wanted to go Mike to

843
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: the Eagle Saints game, which was a weird one. There

844
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Speaker 1: was just no offense for a long period time, at

845
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: least no points in that game. Saquon ends up breaking

846
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Speaker 1: off the big run they get to win in New Orleans.

847
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Speaker 1: But there are also significant injuries on both sides of this.

848
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Speaker 4: Thing, huge injuries Davonte Smith, and I know that Eagles

849
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: fans and some Eagles folks are very upset with the

850
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Speaker 4: lack of a whistle there with a hit on Devonte's

851
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Speaker 4: Smith that wound up resulting in that concussion there for

852
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: him as well as Lane Johnson. You saw him walking

853
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Speaker 4: off the field. That was quite the scary scene. There

854
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Speaker 4: as well for a guy that has played through just

855
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Speaker 4: a ton of stuff over the course of his career,

856
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Speaker 4: throwing Britain Covey who went down with a shoulder injury,

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Speaker 4: I believe. With Aj Brown already down with the hamstring injuries.

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Speaker 1: Cut, concussion for Devontae Smith, concussion for Lane Johnson, I believe, yeah, diagnoses.

859
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Speaker 4: Right, But Covey had a shoulder I believe, yeah. So

860
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Speaker 4: that's now three significant receiver injuries for the for the Eagles.

861
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Speaker 4: There did I miss anybody else in another line? And

862
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Speaker 4: McKai Beckton got hurt in that game, if not mistaken.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, And it's just it's just they're they're they're

864
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: really gonna be tested right here in a game against

865
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: the Buccaneers, who, granted it's a new regime, but really

866
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 4: seem to have their number in the playoff game last year.

867
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

868
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: So you know, it's they're they're a little tour of

869
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 4: the NFC South here. It's like three NFC South games

870
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 4: in a row for the Philadelphia Eagles. So, uh, that'll

871
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: be an interesting injury report to keep an eye on.

872
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: I mean, just seeing the you can't predict concussions, but

873
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: just seeing the way that these things happened the other day.

874
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: Uh and knowing where A. J. Brown has been adding Covey,

875
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, the Eagles are going into this

876
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: game significantly shorthanded. So we'll keep an eye on those

877
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: as we get throughout the week. On the other side,

878
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: with Taysom Hill banged up and and downgraded, I think

879
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: it was downgraded twice yesterday. I think of it down

880
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: doubtful and then out if I'm not mistaken. Uh, So

881
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: I know they're they're potentially hopeful that he'll be able

882
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: to return. The big loss for them is going to

883
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: be Eric McCoy, the center. Dennis Allen did not have

884
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: an update on him, but you see the numbers once

885
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 4: McCoy left from the first two weeks, first couple of

886
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 4: plays of the game, and then he leaves, and that

887
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: offense falls off a cliff. The focus down in New Orleans.

888
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: I've seen them talk about it plenty. This is a

889
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: significant part of their offense. So that is like, you

890
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: may have lost your fantasy game yesterday because of some

891
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 4: Saints players. Eric McCoy may be the reason that you

892
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: lost your fantasy game. So it sounds like he's going

893
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: to miss some time we'll see just how much time,

894
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: but that is a big loss for the Saints.

895
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: There.

896
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: We should say something nice about the Eagles defense, since

897
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: we didn't say much nice.

898
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: About the Eagles last year.

899
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: Last week, right like last week, the Eagles defense was poor,

900
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: and yesterday it looked it was great and it saved

901
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: them because the offenses you pointed out for a long

902
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: time wasn't really doing much of anything.

903
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: There certainly weren't a lot of points.

904
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: The defense looked really good, and you know, bottles up

905
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: a team that had been, you know, scoring points. I

906
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: forget what the effort what they're scoring forty five points

907
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: or whatever it was coming into the game.

908
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: So kudos to pick Fango.

909
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: And that defense that got it straightened out as we

910
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: suspected they probably would.

911
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: A couple other just injury notes here, sounds like Sam Laporta,

912
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: according to Dan Campbell, dodged a bullet with the ankle.

913
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: It's the sprain. They think he potentially could play this week.

914
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport, No, this is not a rerun another season

915
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: ending injury. This time it's an elbow. As Ian reported

916
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: earlier today, Dan Campbell confirmed he's out for the season.

917
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: And while we are shooting this show. The Raiders lost

918
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: their starting safety Marcus Epps. He the injury didn't curb

919
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: was yesterday, but the MRI confirmed he's out for the

920
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: season with a torn acl started every game since he

921
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: got to Las Vegas. All of a sudden, he got

922
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: some younger guys is as the Raiders try to, you know,

923
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: lick their wounds coming off a really brutal effort against

924
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: the Panthers, one of their leaders on that team and

925
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: in that locker room not going to be around. The

926
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: Packers have been dealing with an injury since Week one,

927
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: when Jordan Love went down in Brazil with an MCL spring.

928
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: We talked about it extensively Judy last week. The fact that, hey,

929
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: Jordan Love being out there three straight days, It's clear

930
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: that they feel like he's getting closer to returning. But

931
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: it started to sound Friday night into Saturday like this

932
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: was more than likely going to be Malie Quills's show.

933
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: He ends up going having a revenge game. He plays

934
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: great again two weeks ago, even better than he played

935
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: the previous week when he made a couple of plays here.

936
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: This was exactly the guy that everybody was thinking, hey,

937
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: with the run threat, and the big arm. You can

938
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: design an offense around him. You can't say enough about

939
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: the job that Matt Lafleur has done to keep that

940
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: thing on track. And now maybe again we don't know,

941
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: Jordan loves can be limited to start this week, but

942
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: maybe you're getting him back before a divisional showdown with

943
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Yeah.

944
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: I think Laffler said something like, you know, he's doing

945
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: things that you know, I've never seen anybody do before, right,

946
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: which was very gracious of him. Obviously, a lot of

947
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: that is the coaching and the plan they have put

948
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: in place for Malik Willis.

949
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: I'll just say this.

950
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: In Week two, I was in Tennessee for the Jets

951
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: game against the Titans, and Malik Willis was starting that week,

952
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: and the buzz in the press box was if they

953
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: can make something out of this guy, like, it's going

954
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: to be a miracle, it's going to be like the

955
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: greatest coaching job ever.

956
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 5: And then as we were sort.

957
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: Of watching the highlights while we were recovering the game,

958
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: I mean, the reporters who watched him all the time

959
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: were astonished.

960
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 5: So credit to the Packers.

961
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: If we don't see Willis for the rest of the season, okay,

962
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 2: and that's certainly what they would prefer to have Jordan

963
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: love the rest of the season. But we've talked an

964
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: awful lot in the last hour about staying afloat when

965
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: bad things happened. He kept them afloat when a really

966
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: bad thing happened.

967
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 5: Good for him.

968
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: And imagine what the Tennessee Titans people must have been

969
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: thinking as they watched will Levis perform and Milie Willis

970
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: on the other sideline.

971
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 4: And you set yourself up for a potential payday, whether

972
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: it's you know, in Green Bay or whether it's somewhere else. Uh,

973
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's uh, you set yourself up for that.

974
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: Just the less you show the better. Sometimes when it

975
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: comes to the quarterback, you know, you show them it's like, oh okay, wow,

976
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: there's more that can be mine there. And to do

977
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 4: it against your former team in a situation like that

978
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: shows everything that you could possibly ask for.

979
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

980
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: So great on Malik Willis to do what he did,

981
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: and to do it two different ways. Like you said, Tom,

982
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: the first week was like let's keep it simple, let's

983
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: pay it down, let's expand upout it, you know, I

984
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 4: mean like he was he was not something that they

985
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: won despite he's something they won, but cause yesterday.

986
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: It shows you something too about just the development of quarterbacks.

987
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: And the Packers have obviously had the microwave because Malik

988
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: well still hasn't been there for a month. In there

989
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: five minutes right. Matt tom Clements is on that staff too,

990
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: he's the quarterbacks coach there, He's been around forever, you know,

991
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: Adam Sinovitz, the offensive coordinator. They've put together an environment

992
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: not just to develop Malik Willis, but also to get

993
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: the most out of him while he is very much

994
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: learning on the fly, So a credit to them. Now

995
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: this week they got Aaron Jones, who I talked to

996
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: on the field after the Vikings game yesterday, coming back

997
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: to lambeau Field. I thought was cool because he was

998
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, he said, Hey, this is some of the

999
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: most fun he's ever had right now play with the Vikings.

1000
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: He talked about how this is special. After week one

1001
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: he called his mom and said, Hey, this is just

1002
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: something that feels different about this team. But also when

1003
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I asked him about, hey, what's this week going to

1004
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: be like for you? You talked about, you know, going back

1005
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: in there with gratitude of where he started. Aaron Jones

1006
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: one of the most down to earth people I know.

1007
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: There were people in Green Bay who were just gutted

1008
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: when the Packers released him, even though they're also very

1009
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: excited and rightly so about Josh Jacobs here, but Aaron

1010
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: Jones was one of their dudes. Now he's one of

1011
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: the dudes with the Vikings and so definitely a fun

1012
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: storyline as we head into week four the Bears and

1013
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: the Colts says some things to figure out what their

1014
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks right now, Mike, because you know, the Colts

1015
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: get the win yesterday. Even though Anthony Richardson throws an

1016
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: all time bad interception, He's now with the six interceptions,

1017
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I believe so far through three games. You see him

1018
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: make the amazing plays. You see a lot of times

1019
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: where just his feet aren't set and he's kind of

1020
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: thrown it off balance, he's putting in traffic or in

1021
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: the case of that whatever that was down by the

1022
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: goal line there just not having the right touch on

1023
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: it or anything. Here, there's reasons to be encouraged with

1024
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. You can see his expression, you can see

1025
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: he's wearing it. His body language right now shows this

1026
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: is This is frustrating for him. He knows he's got

1027
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: weapons around him, but they're just they're not in the

1028
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: rhythm yet, and sometimes he's the growing pains as a whole,

1029
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: as an organization, you got to go through.

1030
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: I give Anthony Richardson credit to his postgame interview with

1031
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: our Stacey Dells and said, I'm excited, I feel good.

1032
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: But the quarterback play has to become way better. So

1033
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 4: he understands that. He understands that he's got to make

1034
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: some better decisions there. You know, we talked, We mentioned

1035
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 4: the name earlier in the show, Joe Flacco. Blaco is

1036
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: there at some point the the pressure of you know

1037
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: how if Richardson's play is not ascending, uh, and the

1038
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: Colts find themselves in the mix at some point. This

1039
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: is why the Browns didn't want to bring back Joe Flacco, right,

1040
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 4: You didn't want to have that looking over the shoulder there.

1041
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: So uh yeah, Anthony Richardson right there, some of the

1042
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: decisions he's making, you know, it's it's it's tantalizing because

1043
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: you saw the throw in week one and the ability

1044
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: and and the ceiling that is there. Okay, that's great,

1045
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: but everything else underneath that the the uh intermediate passes

1046
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: uh and and the other decisions that you're making have

1047
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: to be a lot better. So he understands that with

1048
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: Caleb uh And, I'll go give Stacy credit again with

1049
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: the report pregame that he was gonna wear that uh

1050
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 4: that wristband there with the plays on it to try

1051
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: to help him. Yeah, this is this is something where

1052
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 4: he last year, Caleb and And this was during the season.

1053
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: This was not part of the draft process, but during

1054
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: the season a lot of the talk was amongst the

1055
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 4: draft folks and the personnel guys was whoa wait a minute,

1056
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: how's he reacting to adversity? Like is this some Is

1057
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: this a kid that needs to work on that part?

1058
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: And he got through the draft process, he didn't hear

1059
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: a whole lot of that, and it was everybody had

1060
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: the feeling, this guy is ready for the NFL. I

1061
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: don't want to see him get discourage. I don't want

1062
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 4: to see him start to spiral down a little bit.

1063
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: I need to see him sort of react to it.

1064
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: Right, looking like a shell of himself by the middle

1065
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: of the beacon last year, Yeah, look right, Caleb, you

1066
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: can see the physical tools. I don't think we ever

1067
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: really even gotten to look judy at the physical tools

1068
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: of Bryce Young, just because it's been so it was

1069
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: so chaotic so early that his you know, as somebody

1070
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: put to me yesterday, like his superpower is his brain.

1071
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: It's not the physical attributes. He's so good at processing.

1072
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: You couldn't get the ball out with Caleb. You can

1073
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: see it when he's going to his left and throws

1074
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: it across his body twenty yards down the field and

1075
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: throws a dime. Like the physical tools absolutely are there,

1076
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: but like the consistency of playing the position, we just

1077
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Speaker 1: haven't seen yet.

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Speaker 2: This has been a rough go for the rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: so far, right, Like we're three weeks in and maybe

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Speaker 2: bo Nix yesterday had best performance by a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: so forth this season, Like it's been tough flooding here

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Speaker 2: and I and I would actually put Anthony Richardson into

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Speaker 2: that category because he played so little last year. This

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Speaker 2: is essentially his rookie season, Like I'm curious. Next week

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Speaker 2: the Bears played the Panthers. The Bears host the Panthers,

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Speaker 2: and that is going to be presumably the Adulton will

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Speaker 2: play that game versus Caleb Williams, like that is that

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Speaker 2: former bear that's going to be a former A lot

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Speaker 2: of things that's going to be like like that's going

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Speaker 2: to be sort of a referendum on how you handle

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Speaker 2: young quarterbacks and what, you know, the litmus test of

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Speaker 2: like how do you do it? And I mean it's

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00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: been tough to watch because again, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: see these young quarterbacks shattered the way Bryce Young got

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Speaker 2: shattered right like where you could just see the confidence

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Speaker 2: was shot. And so you know, I was happy to

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Speaker 2: see Caleb Williams get his first touchdown as a as

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Speaker 2: a professional, like good, those are baby steps, but man,

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Speaker 2: you'd just like to see a little bit more consistency

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Speaker 2: from these guys, just even if it's not leading to wins,

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Speaker 2: just better cleaner play than we've got so far.

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Speaker 1: Phone Nix is an interesting one because watching him in

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Speaker 1: that game yesterday, it doesn't look that different than what

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Speaker 1: it looked like the first week of the season when

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Speaker 1: they went into Seattle. In other words, he's started plaster

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Speaker 1: He's doing a lot more with his legs, just in

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Speaker 1: terms of like this the place, he's doing a lot

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Speaker 1: more with his legs than I think anybody would have anticipated.

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Speaker 1: He made better decisions, got the football where it or

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Speaker 1: it needed to go, you know, but that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Is also the team success aspect of this. You know,

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Speaker 1: when when you're having fumbles and things like that, it

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Speaker 1: puts more pressure on a young quarterback. But certainly, you know,

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Speaker 1: an encouraging effort for Bonnicks to go in there against

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Speaker 1: the Tampa team that had looked really good the first

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Speaker 1: two weeks. And I think that that brings us to

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Speaker 1: like the final point here, which is we're going into

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Speaker 1: week four of the season. I was just pulling up

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Speaker 1: the standings here. So right now, entering Monday night football, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's two games that'll be tonight, there are five undefeated teams,

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Speaker 1: including the Bills, who are two and zero going into tonight.

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Speaker 1: They are the Chiefs, no surprise there, the Vikings, the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and the Seahawks. That's your undefeated teams. Five teams. There

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Speaker 1: are only three teams entering tonight, including the Bengals and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars who play tonight that don't have a win. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals Jaguars are only too the Titans are zero to three,

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Speaker 1: and but for two disastrous special teams plays, and several

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Speaker 1: disastrous Will Levis plays. You know, they could easily be

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Speaker 1: two and one right now. My point I'm saying all

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Speaker 1: that is, we're three weeks in the season. Twenty four

1131
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: teams are two and one or one and two, and

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Speaker 1: we can come back every single Monday, and it happens everywhere,

1133
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: and there's this visceral reaction to whatever just happened, and

1134
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Speaker 1: fire this person and bench this person and make these changes.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes it happens.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get two games into the season, you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's so bad, Judy with Bryce Young, we gotta pull

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Speaker 1: them out.

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Speaker 2: It's happening with the rate or so right, Antonio Pears

1140
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Speaker 2: is leaving the door open to a quarterback change already.

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Speaker 5: So yes, you're right.

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Speaker 1: There on that time of year too, with like you know,

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Speaker 1: week to week, fire the offensive coordinator or not. You

1144
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: need something to give you give you a little bit

1145
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: of juice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a win right now league more than

1147
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: ever before, and people want to see instant results. And

1148
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: that's why the pressure on the rookie quarterbacks and to

1149
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: get those rookie quarterbacks going is so great because you

1150
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Speaker 2: know c. J.

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Speaker 5: Stroud sort of.

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Speaker 2: Ruined it for everybody, but you know, Mike just said

1153
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: something like, Mike, the Colts make a change if they're

1154
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: in the mix in the AFC South. Then you look

1155
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: at the AFC South like after the Texans got their

1156
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: doors blown off yesterday, like the AFC South is going

1157
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: to be in play right now at least. And so,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, it's so early in the season. It

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00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: is such a long season, so many things have to

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00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: play out, so many injuries, people have to come back

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Speaker 2: from them. Unfortunately, we will have more injuries. Like just

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Speaker 2: I feel like everybody.

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Speaker 1: The things relaxed. You know, we talked a lot about injuries,

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Speaker 1: particularly on Mondays and Tuesdays, because that's when you know

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Speaker 1: guys are coming back and they're getting MRIs and everything else.

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Speaker 1: But somehow it's undersold because I was at that game

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Speaker 1: yesterday between the Vikings and the Texans, and you watch

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Speaker 1: it and you're right. I mean, the Texans got absolutely dominated.

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Speaker 1: I should mention Brian Flores too, I feel to do

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Speaker 1: that in the first segment, what he's doing with that defense.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that your average fan, even people who

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Speaker 1: are into the NFL, could name more than three players

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Speaker 1: on the Vikings defense, and they are absolutely taking it

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Speaker 1: to everybody they get in the final minute of that game,

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Speaker 1: and the Texans have put Davis Mills in at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but they're still playing digs, They're still playing their receivers.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get some points on the board. And

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Speaker 1: Flow is fired up because I'm standing right beyond the sideline.

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Speaker 1: He is fired up. Fourth down comes the sets of

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Speaker 1: Blitzer and the goal line with under a minute to go,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, no, well, you're not gonna get the

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00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: easy one ones even if we're up twenty seven points

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Speaker 1: right now. But for the Texans, you know, you go

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Speaker 1: back and you go, okay, how would the game have

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00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: been different if Joe Mixon's healthy. Guy's a weapon in

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Speaker 1: the wrong game in the past game. In the end,

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Speaker 1: you have to play with who you're with. That's why

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Speaker 1: you never take away from Minnesota. Well, it's not an

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Speaker 1: asterisk there, just like the previous week. It's not an

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Speaker 1: asterisk because Christian McCaffrey didn't play. But the timing of

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Speaker 1: injuries and the volume of injuries, that's the part that

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Speaker 1: sometimes might I think that we undersell here. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know the whole thing about like you face the team

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Speaker 1: at the right time. That's a real thing because if

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Speaker 1: you happen to miss and you play a bunch of

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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks, or you face the team that's decimated, and

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Speaker 1: then three weeks later somebody else plays them at full strength.

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Speaker 1: That's part of the league. And the other part of

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Speaker 1: it is anything can happen any week. And that's part

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Speaker 1: of why we love the NFL, which is everybody's got talent,

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00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: and you know, depending when you're seeing a team, you

1202
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: might get their best shot or.

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Speaker 4: Not any given Sunday or Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Friday

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Speaker 4: or Saturday or.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, any given every day by Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Every day but Tuesday. And that's where the Chiefs are

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Speaker 4: playing this year.

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Speaker 1: How about I and Ian by the way left the

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: show or believe and now is posting Joe Alt mcl

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00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: spring's gonna miss time for the Chargers. Good glad he's

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Speaker 1: still got his phone even though he couldn't be here

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Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, significant, that's their significant injuries. Now you've

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Speaker 1: got no Joe Alt for a little bit here. Rashaan

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Speaker 1: Slater has suffered what they think is a peck strand.

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Speaker 1: I know he's getting an MRI today, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with the bat ankle blank Chris Jones led front, Judy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's.

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Speaker 5: Not a great formula for the Chargers right now.

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Speaker 2: I feel for them because I again, I feel like

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Speaker 2: every year we talk about they have such a talented roster,

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Speaker 2: even the different rosters, They've had such a talented roster

1222
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Speaker 2: for so many years, and the injury book gets them

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Speaker 2: and here we are again.

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Speaker 5: And as you said, like, it's all about when.

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Speaker 2: You face the team, right Like, if you face the

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Speaker 2: team and they're intact, that's a much different looking team

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Speaker 2: than the one they're probably gonna roll out next week.

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Speaker 4: Did the Steelers have a I'll just ask you, do

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00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 4: Steelers have a tackle injury?

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Speaker 1: I mean Troy Fatanu?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yes, Okay, so Calvin Anderson being signed there, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Calvin Anderson formerly of the Patriots. Thanks. I was having

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Speaker 4: trouble googling it because that was before the game. I

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Speaker 4: was looking for injuries out of the game. Forgot about

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Speaker 4: before the game. See, it happens so fast that just

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Speaker 4: you put the blinders on. Once you move into a certain.

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Speaker 3: Part of the week.

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Speaker 1: We got a long way to goo. The insiders will

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