1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Sports in general, the NFL and specific you always look 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: for an extra edge, what gives you the motivation, And 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: in this episode of Defending the Kingdom, we're going to 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: give you three new Chiefs that fit right into this 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: file because what will something to prove for all three 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: of these guys, and something to prove in the NFL 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: can be very very interesting and a great motivating factor. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: This episode, like them all, is brought to you by Ticketmaster. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: There's so many awesome events coming up in the next 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: several months throughout the Chiefs Kingdom that Ticketmaster would be 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: your place to go. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: The homes in the pocket will step up, You'll. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Scrabble ten for loves, dive in touchdown Chansas City, Haiver 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: you want. I'm Mitchelta's voice of the Kansas City Chiefs 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: along with senior team reporter of the Kansas City Chiefs 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Matt McMullan. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of fired up. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Today because because what seemed like of like, let's just 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: fill in some topic and fill in a show to me, 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: has turned into something else, particularly when I look at 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: the three free agents we're going to talk about that 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: have been in the league. The Chiefs signed in that 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: so called second wave of free agency. This isn't the 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: crazy days of the first twenty four hours or forty 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: eight hours. This is kind of a little bit of 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: an aftershock. Although one name will be very familiar, the 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: other two may not be as much. But something to prove? 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Did you have something to prove? I mean a few 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: times you've been in the NFL? Now, okay, so you've 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: been involved with professional sports for how long? 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: Professional sports since twenty fourteen? 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I would have been a junior in college. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: When did you ever face either you can't do it 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: or you felt like I'm going to prove to somebody 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: I can do this. 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: Well in college when I told people I wanted to 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: work in sports, and originally I wanted to be like 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: a sports writer. This is at Mazoo by the way, Yeah, 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: I would just get the well everyone wants to do that, 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: you have to find like a real job, like everybody 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: wants to do that, You're not going to be able 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: to do that. That motivated me for sure. It's yeah. 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean every single internship I had because I worked 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: in minor league baseball for a while and then eventually 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: major League baseball and now the Chiefs obviously every step 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: along the way, it was everybody wants to do that. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: There's no way you're gonna be able to stand out 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: amongst everybody else, And I think that motivated me to 50 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: prove everybody wrong. 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, was there a professor or a couple people that 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: said that or is there a face that you see? 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: Well, so there'd be like, yeah, I like teachers, you know, 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: other students. But also there was one person I remember 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: because my sister moved out to California years ago because 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: she wanted to pursue like an acting career, and we 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: did like Thanksgiving out in California with some people that 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: she had met, and one of her new friend's moms 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: was trying to like dissuade me entirely from a sports career, 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: like don't do it. That's not a real job, Like 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: you're not going to find success, it's not worth it. 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: Over and over again, and like it was like the 63 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: worst Thanksgiving ever. But like stuck with me. I'm like 64 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna prove this lady wrong. Well, so anyway, here 65 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: we are and it. 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Still motivates you, Sure it does. Yeah, yeah, been there too. 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: A couple different things. One was to had been doing 68 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: college ball for a long time. It was voice the 69 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: case state right and involved there and kind of created 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot of their marketing department in sports. But people 71 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: are saying, man, you could you have the level to 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: be a professional announcer. I'd looked at it and thought, okay, 73 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: so I've kind of put my toe in the water. 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: There was a baseball job that might be very close 75 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: to here, the television job where I was told this 76 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: look's really good, looks like you're the guy, and in 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: twenty four hours it changed, Oh man, I kid you not. 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Then there was the it'll be in the book that 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: you'll help me write the trip to Chicago, and that 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: was the interview at WGN to be either bears or 81 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: cobs that were looking at both ways, and so I 82 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: was highly recommended. There was like three hundred people that 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: were up for this job. This work's really good. Now 84 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: getting there was a whole other story that be the 85 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: story in the book because it was one of the 86 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: coldest days ever and my car froze in the interstate. 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: That I'm just gonna tell you that's a whole nother story. 88 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Point is I got to the altar, but no wedding 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Okay, get to the final five of the 90 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. It's in the Saint Paul Pioneer Press, Minneapolis Tribune. 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: They had the finalists, didn't make it, could have had 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Men, But Paul Allen's got it now. He's good. 93 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: The point is that, no, I can do this, and 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep fighting and I'm going to get there. 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: And then at my first job out of college was 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: not in the pro ranks. It was doing high school 98 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: in thirty five high schools, junior college sports, and I 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: was selling advertising so I could eat with my new wife, 100 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: who I still have is awesome. 101 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: But the owner of that station was. 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Not a great guy, okay, and he was gonna make 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: me sign a non compete and I go, I'm not 104 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna sign that, and he goes, you'll never mount anything. 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: He said that to you. 106 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: He took me to a hotel in this town and 107 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: took me. I thought he's gonna kill me. He's gonna 108 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: wipe me out. Right, It's the scene in The Godfather. Right, 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: You're in the back seat, like take the Canoli's leave 110 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: the gun, and just verbally, I'm seriously, I'm like twenty 111 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: three years old, and I go, he's gonna kill me. 112 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: He goes, You'll never mount anything. I still see that face. 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet. So where's that guy at now? Does 114 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: listen to the Chiefs games on the radio? 115 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: He might be. 116 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: That's a whole other story. Okay, he might be watching 117 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: this podcast. 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: Might be hello to you, sir. Yeah, yeah, thank you 119 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 3: for what anyway. 120 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: There are motivations that will carry players people in other 121 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: forms of life. 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: But these three were going to talk about today. 123 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: When you dive into them, you really see that they 124 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: could become something with the Kansas City Chiefs in one way, 125 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: shape or form. And it's because they have something to prove. Now, 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: before we get into that, let's go around the world. 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: What do we have? 128 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I got two for you today, and these 129 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: are both like out in the wild ones like we 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: all keep one we're wearing too, right, I guess? So, Yeah, 131 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: it's kind of where too. I'm glad Taekwan's back. We 132 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: talked about that on our last episode, but I mean, 133 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: think about last year whenever we needed a spark, like 134 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: a big play. He was that guy last year and 135 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: excited for him to come in and have that confidence 136 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: to be even more of a guy this year. 137 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: So we talked about the Giants game. I'm not sure 138 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: we win that game of that anyway. 139 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well the Broncos game in Denver, the reason 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: we were in it was because of him. Uh the 141 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: Eagles game. I believe he had a big play. Like 142 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: could go on and on. Excited for Taekwon. 143 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: And most football guys now want single digits. Linemen know 144 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: they can't have it, but everybody else DB's wide receivers, quarterbacks, 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: running backs. We have a former college quarterback that's helping 146 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: shoot this. They all want single digits. So it looks 147 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: like Taekwon since Joshua Williams is gone, might be number two. 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: But if we went the other way, remember the quarterback 149 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: at Michigan that was like ninety eight or something. 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Tom Harmon, Yeah, go back in the old days. 151 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: It was like why is eighty seven? 152 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I love it, love it. 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: And then some of these were just going off the 154 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: rails here. I was doing some offensive line draft breakdowns 155 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: earlier and Spencer Fano from Utah, where was fifty five? 156 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah it's weird as a tackle, yeah, right, tackle fifty five? 157 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: That's what the center is supposed to wear. 158 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 3: It right, okay, anyway around the world. Two for you today. 159 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: Shout out to Mario. 160 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: So. 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: Ellie and I were walking back from lunch downtown on 162 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: Saturday and Mario came up and said hi. So shout 163 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: out to you, Mario, Thanks for saying hi. And then 164 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: shout out to Madison. Those of you out there that 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: know me well know that I love Chili's. It's one 166 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: of my favorite establishments. Love going to Chili's. You know, 167 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: if you ever worried about the economy, go to Chili's. 168 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: You'll not be worried about the economy. 169 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: Pretty good. 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: Uh huh. I'm actually a Chili's member, so I get 171 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: free chips and salsa. Like I'm like Ellie, I got 172 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: this old chili, I got this. Yeah, you have a 173 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: sweet I should I'd love to parking. I thought I 174 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: was being really funny too, because Ellie got me like 175 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 3: a Chili's hat for Christmas as like a gag gift, 176 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: and I wore the hat to uh this dinner the 177 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: other night. And while I'm sitting there my Chili's hat, 178 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: Madison comes up and says Hi. So shout out to you, Madison. 179 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for not making fun of me for being a 180 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: total goober at Chili's. But it's great. 181 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 182 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: Shout out to Madison, shout out to Mario. 183 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I've been in a food cooma once because of the 184 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: ships and saucer. It keeps coming, keeps coming. To the 185 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: thin chips. Yeah, it's good salsa. I don't know what's 186 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, I've got one real quick because we 187 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: just went on our little sabbatical, yeah, the spring with 188 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: my awesome wife, and we try We've done this for 189 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: our forty plus years of marriage. As crazy as our 190 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: lives are, we've tried to serve preserve time. It was 191 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: just four days maybe five, where you date each other again. 192 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: You get away and it's awesome. We're walking along the 193 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: beach and this guy goes, hey. 194 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: Like you're you're that guy you can't escape. 195 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Go yeah, what's going on? He's like, you were at 196 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: our spring break location three years ago. I can't make 197 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: it up. This is a long way away where we 198 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: were in the States, but we three years ago were 199 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. We took our granddaughters over to Saint 200 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Louis for a little kind of staycation thingy real quick, 201 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: and they were there at. 202 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: The same spot. No way, No, I couldn't believe it either. 203 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Don't know the cat's name, but he's like, you were 204 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: there three I'm like, okay, somebody's following somebody here. So anyway, 205 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: I just thought, okay, I can't make that out. 206 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: Did he know, like who you were with the Chiefs 207 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: and everything? Yeah, okay, he's from he's from Yeah, OK gotcha. 208 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: How funny. 209 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Hey, you guys three years ago were like, you know, 210 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: same spring break location. Now you're here and this location 211 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: is probably what eighteen hundred miles away from Saint Louis. 212 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 3: You gotta start coordinating. 213 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: No, we won't do that. We won't coordinate with anyone. Actually, 214 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: we try to go hide. Yeah. 215 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, uh, but these three free agents something to prove, 216 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: and we're going to jump right into cator. 217 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Co who because who? 218 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: And we faced this guy in the game in Germany 219 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty three as a d back for 220 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Now I've learned in thirty three years 221 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: of the NFL there are some things that motivate players, 222 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: especially on a second contract. A second spin around that, 223 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: and here's Cater's two that fit into the category that 224 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. One, he played Division two football 225 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: now Texas A and M commerce. This is in the 226 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: north east end of the metro, but not far. This 227 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: is getting in Patrick Mahomes's range, not quite to the 228 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Piney Woods, but up in there. And he went to 229 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: Ulyss High School in Trinity, which is well known. But 230 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Cater played Division two football. Now since then East Texas 231 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: A and M, which is now called has gone to 232 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: FCS basically one Double A and a good conference to 233 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: Southland Conference. At the time they were Division two. We 234 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: have seen both of us Division two players Division three 235 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: NAI players make it in the NFL. But they've got 236 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: an extra. 237 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Little push to them. 238 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, Quinn Miners right, got to put out 239 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: even an opponent who's outstanding. 240 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: It was a Division three. 241 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: Player, Yeah, Wisconsin Whitewater, which Whitewater. 242 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: And he's you know, we know all about him being 243 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: a Denver Bronco offensive lineman. Cater played Division two football. 244 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: The second thing would be coming back from injury. Cater 245 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: even though he's an undrafted free agent. There's another one 246 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: three actually Cater fits three year Division two player undrafted 247 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: free agent. How many times Cooper McDonald, right, we consider 248 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: and look guys who are undrafted free agents. They're showing 249 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: you didn't draft me, watch me make it in this league, 250 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: watch me become a player. Cater has done that three 251 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: coming back from injury, devastating ACL injury in training camp 252 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: last year. After this guy and you're gonna you've got 253 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: some great stats on him, but he played eighty eight 254 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: percent of the snaps as an undrafted free agent rookie. 255 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: And this is the. 256 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Same secondary that had Javon Holland and Xavier Howard. But 257 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: these guys weren't awful. Then we saw him in Germany, 258 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: UH and eighty five percent of the snaps, and so 259 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: he's played a lot of football as the ACL goes 260 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: down and now he's starting over. But he's got Division 261 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: two undrafted free agent watch this watch me come back 262 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: from an ACL. 263 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: So you and I have both had opportunities to speak 264 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: at the Rookie Dinner over the years, which I always 265 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: think is one of the coolest events that we do here. 266 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 267 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: So obviously we bring in our draft class immediately after 268 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: the draft for rookie Mini camp, but it's also all 269 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: of our undrafted free agents and the sixty plus tryout 270 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: players that are here, ninety five percent of which will 271 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: not be here after those three days. But they're all 272 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: invited to the rookie dinner, and it's so much fun 273 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: to speak to those guys and to remind them, hey, 274 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: you're in a place that's going to give you an opportunity. 275 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: And you can see, like in some of the players 276 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: out in the group, you can see in their eyes 277 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna waste this. And Cater for Miami 278 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: was one of those guys. It's so cool to think 279 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: that he came in with nothing promised, like no guarantees, 280 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: and not only did he make the team. Back when 281 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: he first got signed to the Dolphins, he was like 282 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: a starter, a contributor for them, to the point where 283 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: if he hadn't gotten hurt last year, I think he'd 284 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: be in line for probably a pretty decent contract. Now 285 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: he has to prove it again, right, but look at 286 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: what he did before the injury. A couple things stand 287 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: out to me. So first experience, thirty eight career starts 288 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: for the Dolphins from twenty twenty two through twenty four. 289 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: This isn't a guy that you're just projecting saying, hey, 290 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 3: if he had more opportunities, I think he could really contribute. 291 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: He played for them and played well. The scheme fit 292 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: is also interesting, mostly a slot corner for them, which 293 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: frankly we could use, especially with Trup McDuffie no longer 294 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: being here. Caterer is a player with a ton of 295 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 3: experience playing the slot and playing it really well, and 296 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: not just as a cover guy, but also as a 297 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: blitzer off the edge. Did a little bit of that 298 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,239 Speaker 3: with the Dolphins, and Steve Spagnolo obviously values that really productive. 299 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: So twenty eight passes defensed during his time with Miami. 300 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: He was one of just twelve players to record at 301 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: least eight pass breakups and each season of twenty twenty 302 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: two through twenty twenty four. And this is a fun one. 303 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: It's like an advanced metric. In twenty twenty four, he 304 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: ranked sixth among all corners in terms of yards allowed 305 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: per coverage snap. So this guy's a really solid slot 306 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: corner that had a bad break last year with the 307 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: ACL injury. But you trust your doctors, trust your trainers. 308 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: They feel like he's ready to go. Hopefully sooner than 309 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: later he can get out there and hopefully pick right 310 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: up where he left off. 311 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: The other thing that translates from I don't care what 312 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: level college you play, FCS, FBS Division two three, and 313 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: AI that translates to the pros is a DV that 314 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: gets marks, and I mean things happen. If you look 315 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: at what he did cater Cooho at East Texas A 316 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: and M. Five interceptions, four force fumbles, three fumble recoveries, 317 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: two defensive touchdowns in a block kick. All right, well 318 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: in the pros, what's okay? Three interceptions, two force fumbles. 319 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned the past defense, two fumble recoveries. Here's the 320 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: other thing why he's a game fit. I love the 321 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: slot slot. Blitzer covers in the slot, not afraid. The 322 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: dude has got a lot of courage in three years, 323 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty tackles. Who does that sound like 324 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: the corners that have played here? Yeah, since Bags has 325 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: been here. The other one that gets that got my attention. 326 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: We talked about that he played against US in Germany. 327 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: You know the other game he played against US, the 328 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: minus twenty eight wind chill game. 329 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I sure did. 330 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: He was in his rookie year, played the wind chill 331 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: game against US minus twenty eight wind chill when it 332 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: seemed like most of the Dolphins really didn't want to 333 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: be here. In that twenty sixty seven glorious Wild Card 334 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: victory on the way to Super Bowl fifty eight. In 335 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: that game, Cater had seven tackles and was one of 336 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the leaders for both teams in that game in a 337 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: minus twenty eight wind chill game. That's all I gotta know. Yeah, 338 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: give the guy a chance. And I didn't know much 339 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: about him. I went back and looked at my boards 340 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: right from those games and I thought, Okay. Then I 341 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: dug into him and I thought, no, he's got something 342 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: to prove. 343 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. And one other thing that 344 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: stands out to me is, you know team reporters talk, 345 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: right like, we chat about certain players that we like, 346 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: You like scouts, Yeah, well, particularly when the players go 347 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: from team to team. So I did this with McDuffie, 348 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: like myself and Stu Jackson with the Rams were chatting 349 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: about Trent McDuffie and what to expect with them, some 350 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: storyline stuff like that. Travis with the Dolphins reached out 351 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: to me immediately and said, you guys are gonna love Cater. 352 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: So that's all I need to know. I'm fired up 353 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: about this guy. 354 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: That's so cool. 355 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: So when you're with you'll say, like Gabe from Liberty, 356 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: the guy that was a quarterback kind of wide receiver. 357 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: What, yeah, exactly same zeal. Tell me about him, right, tell. 358 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: Me about him the second one. 359 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: So all right, I think Cater coohu, the Chiefs might 360 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: get more here than you think. 361 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: All right, and particularly while we're remaking our secondary a 362 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: little bit here where don't have Jalen in town, don't 363 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: have Trent. We're gonna give Noel Williams an opportunity. I 364 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: presume Christian Fulton is in this mix, but adding a 365 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: player like Cater who can play that slot, you feel 366 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: good about plugging him in there, assuming he's healthy. That's 367 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: a big deal. 368 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Or if you draft a corner wink wink, nod nod 369 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: that you could either at nine or twenty nine or 370 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: forty or seventy four, who could start from day one, 371 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: snap one, then you have confidence in your nickel to 372 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: play at Cater, who's got a lot of experience in 373 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: that nickel position, and he was used in the nickel 374 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: position the way the Chiefs use their nickels exactly. 375 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: Not all nickels are used the same. 376 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: No, Okay, So here's where cater something to prove checks 377 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: three of the boxes played. Division two. Wants to prove 378 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: he can play with the big boys, already has two. 379 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent want to prove that he can play 380 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: with the big boys, already has three. I'll come back 381 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: from this acl that he is not, but he's gonna yeah, right, 382 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: So fired up about him. The other one two of 383 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: three is Amari de Mercado. And when we signed him, 384 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I remember we played him in 385 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: the preseason, played him some, and I thought. 386 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: He had a big play against us in the preseason. 387 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: He did. It was awesome. 388 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: That's what kind of caught my attention, Like, who's this guy? 389 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: And when you look at a Mario de Mercato, you 390 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: tc Hornfrog fans that are Chief Kingdom fans remember him. 391 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: But here's one of the boxes that he checks in 392 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: the I'm going to prove it to you. I can 393 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: play in the NFL JUCO player Now. I started, as 394 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I told you on the outside of this podcast, in 395 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: the junior college dranks. And I've seen many guys go 396 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: from the junior college ranks to National Football League stardom 397 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay and the Jayhawk JUCO, which is one of the 398 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: premier junior college leagues in the countries right under our 399 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: nose here in the Chiefs Kingdom, SAMEEO A and m 400 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: in Miami, Oklahoma's. 401 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: Right there, all right. He plays at Saddleback Community College. 402 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: You love that? Oh yeah, I'm all about this. I'm 403 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: all about it. 404 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: And the fact that he went to high school in 405 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: La he goes to Saddleback Community College and then plays 406 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: at TCU. Five years at TCU after one year at Saddleback. 407 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: Both these guys had played a long time in college. 408 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: Same thing with cater But Amri de Mercado, to me, 409 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: has something to prove because he's a juco player. Oh 410 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, see if this sounds familiar, undrafted free 411 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: agent was not drafted out of TCU and became a 412 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: player for Arizona. 413 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: All right. 414 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Third thing he has to prove is something happens in 415 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: your career that seemingly defines you, and you're going that 416 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: does not define me. And that was the fumble at 417 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: the goal line last year at the end of what 418 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: would have been a seventy two yard touchdown run that 419 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Amari gets credit for a seventy one yard run but 420 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: let go of the ball before the end zone. We 421 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: see Jonathan Gannon the sideline exchange. Amari's devastated by the play. 422 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: You think he he wants to something to prove. He 423 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: goes that ain't me. Because he said that ain't me 424 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: and actually played really good football after that, saying that 425 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: one play will not define me. That to me excites 426 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: me about Amri de Mercado one hundred percent. 427 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: And you know, holding onto the ball and crossing the 428 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: goal line, that's an easily correctible thing. I doubt that 429 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: ever happens to him ever. 430 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: Again. 431 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you make a mistake 432 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: and you say, I'm going to make sure I never 433 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 3: do that again. The difficult part of that play is 434 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: the seventy one yard run, and he can handle that part. 435 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: Don't change that, right, And I mean, the dude's explosive. 436 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 3: Didn't have a lot of carries in Arizona, only one 437 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty six, but he made the most of 438 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: every single one of them. He averaged six point five 439 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: yards per carry during his time there, a lot of 440 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: big plays. Obviously, ripped off twenty runs of double digit 441 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: yardage during his career, doing so on fifteen point nine 442 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: percent of his carries. He doesn't have enough carries to 443 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: qualify in that category in terms of like the leaders 444 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: over the last three seasons, but if he did, he 445 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: would lead the inn in that category. For comparison's sake. 446 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: Devon h Chan, of course, maybe the most explosive back 447 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: in football right now. He's at like fifteen point six percent, 448 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 3: so not a lot of carries, but all those carries 449 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: certainly made the most of them. And yeah, holding onto 450 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: the football I'm sure will be a priority for him. 451 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: I doubt he ever makes that mistake. Again, I'm not 452 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: even worried about that at all. The thing I'm most 453 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: excited about though with this guy, beyond just the explosiveness 454 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: the pass pro he can pass protect. He's spent at 455 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: least eighteen percent of his total snaps and each of 456 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: the last three seasons in pass protection, allowing just eight 457 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: pressures on one hundred and four snaps. For guys like this, 458 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: we always try to compare him to Jerck McKinnon. Jack 459 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: McKinnon is like the gold standard. Jeric was an explosive player, 460 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: a spark plug player, but he was an awesome pass protector, 461 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: like awesome. And I think about Amari de Marcado. He 462 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: kind of fits that mold for me. So really fired 463 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 3: up about this. You know, Brett said that we were 464 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: going to get more explosive at running back. He wasn't. 465 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: We've got Kenneth Walker, we got a Mari Demarcado. I'm 466 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 3: excited about it. 467 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: And the pass pro thing is really exciting because I 468 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: go back, I'm a little bit like Tim Terry. Now 469 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: I go back and look at his draft analysis. Sure 470 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: he was not drafted coming out of TCU, and the 471 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: big knock on him was pass protection. And look what 472 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: he's done in his career in the NFL. The other 473 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: thing is you mentioned the touches. How many fumbles do 474 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: you think he had with the Arizona Cardinals with one hundred. 475 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: And seventy six touches guessing not many. 476 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: One The only one was the one at the goal 477 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: in Wow. 478 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: So that was that was self forced. It wasn't like you. Yeah, 479 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: that's that's good news. 480 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: Right there. 481 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Another one in five years at TCU, one fumble. Okay, 482 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: you're saying, well one of that many touches, he's the 483 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: third down back. Yeah, that's perfect. Here's my next favorite 484 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: stat about a Mario de Mercado, who was the best 485 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: defense last year in the NFL. 486 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: Uh. Oh gosh, now I'm on the spot. I've wiped 487 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: it last year, cleaned from my mind. Denver. 488 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're right there, but I put Seattle right in. 489 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure, it's Seattle, that's the answer. 490 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 491 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: The longest play Seattle gave up all year was to 492 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: Mario de Mercado at least a run I should say 493 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: of fifty five yards. Wow, against the Seattle Seahawks. I've 494 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: watched it ten times and it's a legitimate run against 495 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: a great defense. The longest run the Chiefs had last 496 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: year was thirty five yards by Xavier Worthy. 497 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. We had the three runs of twenty or more 498 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 3: yards last year. 499 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: My gosh. 500 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: The year before going to the Super Bowl was Isaiah 501 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Pacheco at thirty four. Now, you got to go all 502 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: the way back to October one of twenty twenty three, 503 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: when Pop Pacheco had the forty eight yard or New 504 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: Jersey turnpike run right on Sunday Night football against the 505 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: Jets and in front of his home crowd in Mario 506 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: Demarcado in twenty three at a forty nine yard touchdown 507 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: against San Francisco. 508 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: Pretty good defense Yeah. 509 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: In twenty four he had a fifty three yard touchdown 510 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: run against Chicago, a forty one yard run against it's 511 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: the Rams, the aforementioned seventy one and fifty five yard 512 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: runs last year. All of those runs would have classified 513 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: as the longest run by a Kansas City chief the 514 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: last three years. 515 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Wow. So I get fired up. 516 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I get chills down my spine talking about the potential 517 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: of a Mari de Mercado juco player. Check the box, 518 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: all right, undrafted free agent check the box, something to prove, 519 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: and third, a really motivating factor. He doesn't want that 520 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: play that's all over the reels of the NFL season 521 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: of twenty five to be the defining play for him. 522 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: And I'm going to bet one hundred bucks right now 523 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: to anybody that's listening or watching this podcast that he 524 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: will redeem himself from that play. I can't wait to 525 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: see this kid work. 526 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, and we're both really excited about 527 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: Berchhard Smith moving forward. I think Burchard showed a lot 528 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: at the end of last year, really solid in that 529 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: Raiders game. 530 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: And explosive to fill your explosive theme exactly. 531 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: So, now you look at this running back room. We've 532 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: kept Walker all right, one of the best running backs 533 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: in all of football. Give a Mari Demarcado, who we've 534 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: been talking about, who not a lot of touches, but 535 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: every time he touched it seemed to go for thirty yards, right, 536 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: And a young player in Brishard Smith, who we believe in. 537 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: That's a really good group. That's an explosive group. And 538 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: I truly believe, like I've talked about for weeks on 539 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: our podcast, adding an explosive element to the running game 540 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: is going to change everything for this offense. I think 541 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: really in many ways, we were playing with like both 542 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: hands tied behind our back at times last year because 543 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: our running game was not explosive and our play action 544 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: passing game as a result was not very effective. Well, 545 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: you have to respect this running game now. You have 546 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: to respect it because any of these guys at any 547 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 3: moment could take the ball for a forty five yard 548 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: touchdown and we just didn't have that last year. 549 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: Matt and I at an undisclosed location in downtown Kansas 550 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: City have an annual luncheon just the two of us. 551 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the. 552 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: Who's going to be the third down back luncheon? After 553 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: Drake McKinnon. You talk about the gold standard. It's why 554 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: I love getting some I JP Ryan and I wept 555 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: when we lost him. Okay, and we get to the 556 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl because of Mari de Marcano can be this 557 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: guy and watch him run draws and screens because he's patient, 558 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: he gets it, he understands it. So a third down back, 559 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: what do they have to do? They better pass protector. 560 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: You're not going to have that job. You already covered that. Draws, 561 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: screens provide a big play and these straws. And there 562 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: was one third and five play. I looked at it 563 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: against the Rams. The forty one yarder is a third 564 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: and five play. They did it thinking well they're going 565 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: to throw, it's a throwing formation, and then he turns 566 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: it into a forty one yard run against. 567 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: A good defense. 568 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm more fired up about this than I thought I was. 569 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: Going to be. 570 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: You know how Kelse and Greg Olsen and Kittle started 571 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: tight end to you? I think I think McKinnon then 572 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: p Ryan should start third down back. 573 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: You. I know where we're going to have the banquet. 574 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: Where's that where we have our at our summit location location. 575 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: We'll invite all third down backs around the league, and 576 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: then we'll have our third down Back of the Year award. 577 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: If you want to be a third down back, come 578 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: to Kansas City and come to our summit. 579 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: We love it. We value third downbacks. 580 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: We do on defending the King, we should you just 581 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: I said, well, I can't win in my fantasy draft 582 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: with him. 583 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: No, you win football games with me? All right. The 584 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: third one you all know about because he's. 585 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: Been all over shoot, social media and regular media ever since. 586 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: He was a five star player in the State of 587 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Georgia Kennesawa, Georgia. He signs at Georgia, then he goes 588 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: to Ohio State kind of a contrary versial move, but 589 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: then at Ohio State did incredible things. The eleventh pick 590 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: by Matt Naggy and the Chicago Bears. In Matt's last 591 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty one, we're talking about Justin Fields here, 592 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: and Justin Fields is now a Kansas City chief. And 593 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: that's one of those where people go, what Justin Fields 594 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: is a Kansas City all right? 595 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: What does he have to prove? A couple things. 596 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: One, he's not just a running quarterback, because when you're 597 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: on the same line with Lamar Jackson and Michael Vick 598 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: and you're the only three on that line that's pretty 599 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: good and which is what he did is is a 600 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: rushing total when he was with the Bears two even 601 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: as a high drafted player. Remember we talked about undrafted 602 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: free agents. As a high drafted player, I'm going to 603 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: prove that I can play to that pick and be 604 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: in the role here as a terrific vice president to 605 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. And so that's where we're at with Justin Fields. 606 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons, one of the many 607 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: reasons we have been so successful since Coach dried got 608 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: here is the stability that he provides. There is stability 609 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: here for players to come in and to reach their 610 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: full potential. I think that's why a lot of times 611 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: you have players that didn't work out elsewhere they come 612 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: here and it works because there is stability. If you 613 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: look at you Usin Field's career, there has just not 614 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: been a ton of stability for him wherever he's been. 615 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: He has not had an opportunity, in my opinion, to 616 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: really reach his full potential at any of his stops, 617 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: just because of the lack of infrastructure at times in place. 618 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: From an offensive standpoint, things have snowballed over time in 619 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: those places and just couldn't climb out of it because 620 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: that stability wasn't there. That stability is here, and if 621 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: he is going to reach his full potential, it will 622 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: be here, and I'm excited about that. If there's one 623 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: time in his career that I think he really put 624 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: it together, it was in Pittsburgh. So in Pittsburgh, because 625 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson was hurt, he began the season as the 626 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: Steelers starter. They went four and two in the games 627 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: that he started in the only two games he lost 628 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: lost by it combined six points, and he played well 629 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: in those games, set a quarterback rating over ninety, kept 630 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: him obviously in every game, really competitive. And then when 631 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: Wilson came back, Fields went back to the bench. Kind 632 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: of another example of how there wasn't even stability there Pittsburgh. 633 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: So I think for Fields, all the talent in the world, 634 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: that's obvious, and at times we've seen flashes of it. 635 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: I think he just needs a coaching staff and a 636 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: stable environment for him to go out there and thrive. 637 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: And he's going to have that opportunity during the offseason 638 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: trending program to get us through this time, and then 639 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: when Mahomes is back, you have a veteran, experienced, dynamic 640 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: player behind him that you can count on to go 641 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: in there and win a game if he needs to. 642 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: And also, even when Mahomes is healthy, there's things you 643 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: could do with Justin Fields because of his incredible athleticism. 644 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited about this, and I'm excited for 645 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: Justin because I think here he has a chance to 646 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: truly become the player that he is. 647 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: And something he has eight NFL records. Justin Fields has 648 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: eight National Football League records. What he did in twenty 649 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty two when he ran for almost eleven hundred and 650 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: fifty yards was phenomenal. One hundred and seventy eight yards 651 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: against Miami. That's an NFL record for a quarterback running 652 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: the ball. But it's also been the injuries Matt. If 653 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: you go back through his NFL career in twenty one, 654 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: his rookie year, he's humming along pretty good with Nags. 655 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: It's going okay, going okay, ribs, ankle, okay, flat tire. 656 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: Twenty two. 657 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: We talked about in twenty two, the high productivity year ankle, shoulder. 658 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: The big one is in twenty three In fact, he 659 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: lost at Kansas City that year we played him. He 660 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: had one game he was sixteen out of sixteen against Denver. 661 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: That was the first game that Taylor was at. That 662 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: was a crazy day. 663 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: And that's I think that's in the notes here. So 664 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: that's another reason Justin Fields was I gotta go back. 665 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: Maybe Taylor will come back to my game. Uh, the 666 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: right thumb injury got him that year. Like that right 667 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: thumb injury took Justin Fields off the track. And so 668 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: then he goes to Pittsburgh, Chicago gives up on him. Basically, 669 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: they move on, go to Caleb Williams then in Pittsburgh, 670 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: but he had an abdominal injury in Pittsburgh and then 671 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: with the Jets last year a concussion knee injury. 672 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 2: Every year there's been something. 673 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: So another box to check is I can do this. 674 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: I can do this. 675 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I've proven I can do I've got eight NFL records, 676 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: I'll be a good soldier, instability, and then but I 677 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: can play to that eleventh pick and I'm going to prove 678 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: to you that I can stay healthy and do it. 679 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: I think those are all reasons Justin Fields is got 680 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: a reason to do to be a good quarterback here 681 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. 682 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: And I was talking about how Brett wasn't messing around 683 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: with getting us more explosive. Well, justin Fields is pretty 684 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: explosive as well. You can find ways to have him 685 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: impact the game even when Patrick is healthy, and I'm 686 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: excited about that. 687 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: There will be plays. They're going to be in there 688 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: at the same time. You don't think they won't. They 689 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: won't be there the little Steelers in this. 690 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: I'm the biggest proponent of a dual quarterback set. I 691 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: love it. 692 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, pedal line up in the wildcat directs nap, 693 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: he goes out a wide receiver. 694 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: One of these days we'll throw him a pass. 695 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: Yes, he wants it badly. I think maybe Fields will 696 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: throw it to him. There we go. 697 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: Because now if you put Fields in that wildcat role 698 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: and Pats the pats the wide receiver, I'm just telling you, 699 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: I got a feeling it somewhere. Andy Reid called Mike 700 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Tomlin and goes, hey, you know what, what do you 701 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: think if we try this? I am too kind of fun. 702 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Do you think we'll see it in no tas? 703 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: Maybe? 704 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: And then we'll file that one away until we maybe 705 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: a team won't be out there no tas right, Probably 706 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: that's true. That's true. Training Camp, training Camp will see it. 707 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: We'll see it, yeah, and then and then file it 708 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: away and we won't see it again for three months, 709 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: and then we'll be like, oh, yeah, there it is. 710 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: I thought this was going to be a defending the 711 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Kingdom episode that we're just kind of fill in the gap, 712 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: do a week and we may have Kelsey next week, 713 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: right hope. So but hey, we're so glad. And then 714 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: I started getting into these guys, and then you and 715 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I started to talk, and then I started to realize 716 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: that every one of these guys has something to prove