1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: It's another episode of splash It Territory. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: I'm at p Santangelo, former Washed Up has been giant, 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: current broadcaster, and I'm joined by my frequent contributor, Susan 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: Slusser Day. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Susan, Happy New Year. I don't know how long you 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: can say that, but happy New Year. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 4: I figure the first the first full week of January, 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 4: you can get away with it. We're just under the 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: under the I don't know, I think the maximum right now. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Christ Happy New Year. 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: My Christmas tree is still up. I'm not taking it 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: down because it looks pretty. I'm about to head to 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Scottsdale for a couple of reasons, and I want to 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: share it with our viewers and listeners right now. Number One, 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: on Thursday, my Hurricanes Baby are in the Fiesta Bowl 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: against Old Myths, So I snagged some tickets to the 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: Fiesta Bowl. I'm going to the Fiesta Bowl. It's all 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: about the U, Baby. We're really excited that football is 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: back in the U is back. And then I'm gonna 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: stay in scott Stale and next week starts Giants Fantasy 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: Camp and it's literally I did it last year thinking 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: oh it'll be good. To get out of town. Go 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: to Scottsdale. There's great bars and restaurants there. I'll just 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: have a blast. 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: It turned out to. 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 2: Be one of the greatest weeks I had all season 29 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: long with Giants fans. We got great coaches this year. 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Jeremy Afelt, Dave Gerveki, j T Snow, Sean Dunston is coming, 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: hack Man Jeffrey Leonard is coming, and a guy with 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: kind of a big hit in Giants history, Travis Ishikawa, 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: Rich Murray, George Contost may Or may not be there. 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: He's having the birth of a second child. So we're 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: really excited about sixty six, sixty seven, seventy. I don't 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: know fans coming down there. We get teams, we. 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Have Draft Day. 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: The coaches secretly bet on games. 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: For dinner or maybe one hundred dollars when we. 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Play, so I'm sure there's no money involved. 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: A f P. 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: There's kangaroo court. Kangaroo court last year really nice. 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure people love you. 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: You have it in baseball. You don't know you have 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: a judge. He comes out with a gabble. That's Glenn Kuiper. 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: He's the commissioner of this whole thing. And then the players. 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: You put stuff in a shoe box and they're fines 48 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: and you read the fine and then the other person 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: has to come up and defend themselves. So it could 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: get weird in the big leagues because there's egos like 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: guy was out too late last night and guys are 52 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: like whoa and he can cross lines. 53 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: So I don't think it ever really worked in the 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: big leagues. 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 2: But in this fantasy camp, the campers don't they don't 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: know what they're doing, so it's so organic and hilarious. 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: We had a father and son last year. The son 58 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: was about twenty, the father was in his mid forties. 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: The son came up and find his dad for something crazy, 60 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: and the dad came up, and so you have to 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: defend yourself, and if you're still found guilty, you defend 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: yourself and plead not guilty. 63 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Your fine doubles. 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: He came up and his defense was I've never told 65 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: you this, but you're not my son, and it was 66 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: we all just lost. We laugh and it was just 67 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: a great time. So I'm really excited about. 68 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 4: That, Haws that I know we've got a giant's news 69 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: to get to You. Don't worry everybody. We're going to 70 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: get there, I promise. I sometimes I got a rain 71 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: sp a little bit. 72 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: But I do have a question, dude, what is giants 73 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: news where this is better. 74 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 4: Well sort of news, Well it is news. I'm sorry, 75 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not going to joke around about that news. Hey, 76 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: I do have a question. I've never been to a 77 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: fantasy camp. I've heard about them. I know people that 78 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: have gone, But how is the talent level at fantasy camps? 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Off the field. It's really good when we. 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: But at the actual fantasy camp, I mean Scott's stale. 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: But at the actual fantasy camp, there's some guys that 82 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: think they're pros man like. They come in with the 83 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: bag over their shoulder, the eye black, the glasses. We 84 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: had a guy last year that just took it super 85 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: seriously through eighty miles an hour, was just blowing people away. 86 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: And then we had a husband and a wife and 87 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: the wife has never played baseball and she's standing up 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: there and she's like. 89 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Ooh, this guy's throwing fast. 90 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: So it's it's all ages, all levels, families, brothers, sisters, others, sons, husband, wives. 91 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: It's really really cool, man. And I'll tell you what 92 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm not just trying to sell it. 93 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: It was literally the best the best week of my 94 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. 95 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: If somebody asked me what the best thing that happened 96 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: to be in twenty twenty five, I would say Giants 97 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: Fantasy Camp. It is awesome. 98 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: Well, I mean we did a pubcast, so I mean. 99 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: One B or maybe one A. And the trip to London. 100 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the trip to London with Susan Seluster was 101 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: number one. That was number two. 102 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: What also is really cool is we're gaining momentum on 103 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: this podcast big Time or this show I should say, 104 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: we're not supposed to call it a podcast. This show 105 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: is gaining momentum, and we have some merchandise for you 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: guys that we think is pretty cool. You might you 107 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: might be rocking this around the ballpark. Splash Hit Territory 108 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: merch is coming out. So scan that thing to your left, 109 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: take a picture of it, click on the thing below. 110 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: My parents would have trouble with that, by the way. 111 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: They'd be like, what do we do? Check out the mug. 112 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: The mug is sick and the backpack is sick. Even 113 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: though I don't have books. That's really cool. 114 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: The hoodie is great. The beanie coming up is my favorite. 115 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're traveling and you want to rock the merge, 116 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: look at the beanie right there. 117 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: We're all over. 118 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: That's a notebook, A notebook for the reporters. 119 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: Yes, the splash Hit Territory notebook for those of you 120 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: that can write. I can't, so that's going to be 121 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: fun too. All right, Time to get to some Giants news. 122 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: And there is news. Believe it or not. 123 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: Tyler Malley rhymes with Rally officially signed with the Giants. 124 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Susan, you were on the zoom call or recently? Was 125 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: it yesterday or whatever? 126 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Does you were on the zoom call? What do you 127 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: gather from this signing? I've talked too much. 128 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: It's your turn go yeah, yeah, well you have talked 129 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: too much and I have something to say about the 130 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: merch too. By the way, I have a Foul Territory 131 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: T shirt because you know I've been on fell the 132 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: National Foul Territory, which is awesome. I'm sure many of 133 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: you are regular listeners of the Felt Territory show. I 134 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: have one of their T shirts. It is the softest 135 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 4: T shirt I own. The merch is such high quality. 136 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 4: I can't wait to get some of this splash hit 137 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: territory merch and probably give a lot for presents coming up, 138 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: you know, for birthdays and stuff. So anyway, enough enough 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: about us some uh plugan or stuff. But Tyler mally 140 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: uh Is was on the Collie yesterday and of course 141 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 4: the first questions about his health right he had a 142 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: shoulder issue the costume three months last year with the Rangers. 143 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: But he said he it was I think he called 144 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: himself a dummy who tried to make some mechanical adjustments 145 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: on his own wound up here trying to get more 146 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: extension on his fastball, wound up putting a little too 147 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: much strain on the shoulder. And you know, coming back 148 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: from Tommy John is a pretty uh like detailed process. 149 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: And you haven't pitched, you know. He was he was 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: in his second full second year after Tommy John. He 151 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: had the Tommy John and twenty twenty three really good rehab. 152 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: Obviously very good because the first fourteen starts he made 153 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: with the Rangers last year were outstanding. People might remember, 154 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: I mean, he was the talk of the league at 155 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: the American League early on because he was just I 156 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: think those first fourteen starts it was like a two 157 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: to one four er. It's just blowing guys away. Looks fantastic. 158 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: This stuff is great, So no questions about this stuff. 159 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: And I had a text exchange with Bruce Bochi, obviously 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: as a manager at the time, about it. He said, 161 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: the guy is such a competitor. He has the shoulder 162 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: thing and he comes back. He was just as good 163 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: in those final two kind of slightly abbreviated starts at 164 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: the end of the season, but looked just as good. 165 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: So he's ready to go, and he's trying to add 166 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 4: a slurve. He had a curve ball that he said 167 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: was really effective against right handers, but I think he 168 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: went away from it. And he mentioned time he threw 169 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: the curve to Brandon Belt and he said Belt hit 170 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: it about five hundred miles, which sounds about right, And 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: I think he went away from the curve at that point. 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: But he's going to add something similar back in mostly 173 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: to right handers. So I like this signing FP. I'm 174 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: not sure you know. My first question is Zachmanasi and 175 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: on our call was is the rotation complete now? 176 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: And I think the. 177 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: Answer is yes, they're doing the well, we're still looking, 178 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: so it's possible. They're still looking, but they've got two 179 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: guys coming off sort of injury things with Adrian Hauser 180 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: and Tyler Mallee, the two really only significant editions this softseason. 181 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: To me, I think they need a little more. These 182 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 4: are more, especially at this point in their career and 183 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: coming off injuries, kind of back into the rotation guys. 184 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: In my view, they really need a real major league 185 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: number three. Tyler Mallee can be that guy. I am 186 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 4: not saying he can't be, but I think they need 187 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 4: a little more, and certainly they need more around the field. 188 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: What are your impressions of Tyler Malley from what you've seen? 189 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: Well, I trust Bruce Bochi first and foremost, and if 190 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: Bruce Bochie signed off on it, obviously he's good friends 191 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: with Buster Posey, and if Boach signed off on this, 192 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: I got to trust people that know more about baseball 193 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: than I'll ever know. I watched a bunch of video 194 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: on malle yesterday just to refresh my memory. I remember 195 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: him with the Reds and pitching in Great American Ballpark, 196 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: which is not really conducive, and he was a big 197 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: prospect in their organization coming up. 198 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: And you know his brother plays baseball too. 199 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: But I watch a lot of video on Malley yesterday, 200 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: and what I saw in his arsenal currently is forcing fastball, 201 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: cutter and split splits, nasty tumbles, and it comes out 202 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: of his hand just like the fastball. What I really 203 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: noticed that what really popped out of me was two things. 204 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: Number One, command, like this guy is a surgeon on 205 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: the mound, hitting his spots. 206 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: He can add and subtract from the fastball. His fastball's 207 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: ninety two to ninety four. 208 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: But on all the videos I saw, and maybe it 209 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: was just highlight reels, it's got a lot of jump 210 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: and he was throwing it by guys with two strikes. 211 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: So he'll go down on the zone, hit corners with it, 212 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: and he gets a lot of swing and miss with 213 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: his fastball. So he's one of those guys a lot 214 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: like Matt Kine that didn't light up the radar gun, 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: but you saw him throw fastballs, bye guys, because the 216 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: spin rate is such that we used to call it 217 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: jump in late life. He's got a lot of late 218 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: life on his fastball. Sounds like he's a competitor. He's 219 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: been through a lot, He's been through a lot of injuries, 220 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: So the one thing I'll temper my enthusiasm with about 221 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: this is health is going to be a huge issue 222 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: with this guy. And there was years when he had 223 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: three starts. There was years that he missed with Tommy John, 224 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: he had shoulder issues where it flamed up last year 225 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: in Texas, where Boat wanted to be conservative with him 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: and get him better. So while I like the acquisition 227 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: and I like the picture and I like the stuff, 228 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: it's a big question mark for me, and I think 229 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: it's a gamble for the Giants whether this guy can 230 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: stay healthy or not. 231 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: What about the rotation? Do you think they have? 232 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: Know? I mean, obviously we want more. I think all 233 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: Giants fans want more, But I don't know. I mean, 234 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: the honest answer here on our show is I don't know. 235 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean, if Houser turns out to be good and 236 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: Mally turns out to be good, and Robbie rake and 237 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: replicate what he did last year, and Landon Roope continues 238 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: to grow like he did last year, he's a fierce competitor. 239 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: We know what we're going to get from Logan Web hopefully. 240 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classics got me worried. I love Logan Web 241 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm real close with Logan Web. I've seen guys go 242 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: in there. Your body's not ready to pitch playoff games 243 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: in whatever month it is, what is it March so 244 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: and we're all competitors. Man, if you get to that level, 245 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: you're a competitor, and you're gonna want to compete and 246 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: you're going to reach back. And the thing that's difference 247 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: between March in October is you have all those innings 248 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: under your belt, but adrenaline takes over in the playoffs, 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: and if you get dinged up, you have all winner 250 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: to heal. I've seen guys get dinged up in the 251 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic. Tanner Roark with the Nationals is a 252 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: perfect example. He was one of their better pitchers, a 253 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: lot like Tyler Malley. Their stuff is very similar. And 254 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: he went and pitched in the World Baseball Classic and 255 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: he just had the worst season ever for the Nationals 256 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: after that, and he said he just was all out 257 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: of sorts. He had been training one way his whole 258 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: life and he had to ramp up early and it 259 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: just affected them all season long. So I have a 260 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: lot of concern about Malley's health. I have a lot 261 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: of concern about Logan Web. Even though I think it's 262 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: cool to wear USA on your shirt and Mark de 263 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: Rosa is doing a great job of assembling a great team, 264 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: I just hope that Logan Web and everybody involved is 265 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: really smart when it comes to how they approach this thing. 266 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 4: Well, I think the main thing that strikes me with 267 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: a WBC is that the Giants will be heavily involved. 268 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: Their medical staff will be heavily evolved in talking to 269 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: Team USA about how Logan Web prepares. Of course, there 270 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: will be pitch limits, inning's limits, all that kind of thing. 271 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: You can't account for. The adrenaline and of those kind 272 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: of games for a picture, especially competitor like Hoak and Web, 273 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: you know it's going to be coursing through his veins, 274 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: the adrenaline. He is going to probably go all out, 275 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: even if he doesn't mean to. But he's a horse 276 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: like this is a guy who really you know, he's solid, 277 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: He's so prepared. I'm sure he's been really getting himself 278 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: ready for it. So I feel a little less nervous 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: about Logan than I think a lot of people do. 280 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: So so anyway, but what else do we think that 281 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 4: the Giants need to be doing here? Because with sachmanaziin 282 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: on the call, of course, we asked a lot of questions. 283 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: Among them, John Shay asked about Tatsuya Emi and his 284 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: deal with Houston being pretty team friendly. You know, the 285 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: Giants have signaled with Greg Johnson especially saying that they 286 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: don't want to hand out a lot of big, long 287 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: contracts because they already have five of them, but especially because, 288 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: as you know, as we've kind of been alluding to, 289 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: pitching is a little risky when it comes to injuries. 290 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: We all know that EMA's got a three year deal 291 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: with two player opt outs the first two years at 292 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: fifty four million, which seems really pretty doable. But the Giants, 293 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: you know, who knows, Maybe he just preferred Houston, Maybe 294 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: the Giants were in it. Zach Manazien declined to comments 295 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: specifically about a player, especially one now with another team 296 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: and what another team has done. 297 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: I get that. 298 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: What I've wrote a story in that appeared in Today's 299 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: chronicle was online yesterday talking to a lot of agents, 300 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: talking to a lot of people about baseball, about the 301 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: slow winner. And it's not just the Giants. The Giants 302 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: have been very slow, but so have a lot of 303 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: people that six of the top ten free agents are 304 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: still out there, so a lot of teams are sort 305 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: of waiting around. But agents told me that the Giants 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: checked in early on a lot of big names, really 307 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: kind of almost everybody you might think of at the 308 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: positions Giants have needs, but that they didn't really hear 309 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: much follow up on those guys, where other teams were 310 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: sort of in, you know, constantly checking in and following 311 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: up and you know, clearly trying to get things done. 312 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: I think the Giants did their do diligence as they should, 313 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: but left it there was certainly a lot of the 314 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: top guys. I cannot speak to specific guys in general, 315 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: but that's what a lot of the agents were saying, 316 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: was that they're just hearing a little bit less from 317 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: the Giants, and they are from maybe some other teams. 318 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: And you look around a division and the Dodgers with 319 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: their roster, they're still adding, the Padres with their roster 320 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: still adding. I'm a little concerned that the Giants just 321 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,239 Speaker 4: aren't adding at this point when they have really defined 322 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: needs and it's early. 323 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: Maybe we need to be patient. Am I being too impatient? FP? 324 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: No? 325 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: I think everybody watching this right now is impatient. The 326 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: one thing with Emi signing with the Astros is everybody 327 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: knows that Houston has a huge Japanese populations, if that 328 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: makes sense. Other than that, what I would say, and 329 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: I do know firsthand, is the Giants have really done 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: a lot of scouting in Asia and Zach and Buster 331 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: they went to Japan this offseason, so they've been looking 332 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: for players. And when you have those initial reports coming 333 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: out of eight years, one hundred and ninety million dollars 334 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: whatever they were, and then all of a sudden, a 335 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: guy signs for what he signed for with the Astros, 336 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: everybody needs pitching right now. You don't think the Yankees 337 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: would have jumped on that and paid whatever, The Mets 338 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: would have jumped on that and paid whatever, or the Dodgers, 339 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: of course, would have jumped on that. Even though he 340 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: said he didn't want to play for the Dodgers, he 341 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: wanted to beat him. There's something there that we don't know. 342 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: There's boots on the ground watching this guy pitch. There's 343 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: scouts that have reports, and the fact that there was 344 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: rumors that he was going to get this huge contract 345 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: and he signed for this smaller contract and we're all going, wait, 346 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: what the Giants couldn't afford that. There's a I mean, 347 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know he could win twenty games. I've seen 348 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: videos of him pitch. His stuff looks good. There's a 349 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 2: reason why all these other teams didn't jump on this 350 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: guy and this contract. And I always defer to the 351 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: guys that are doing this. You know, I get there 352 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: at four o'clock, I talk about baseball in the air 353 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: for a while, I do a postgame show, and I 354 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: go home. But these guys live it. You know, they're 355 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: getting up at seven in the morning. They're doing their 356 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: due diligence. Bochie and Malley. I mean, these guys know, 357 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: we're just fans and we just want to get excited 358 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: in the off season about who they sign. But the 359 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: fact that he signed for such a small contract compared 360 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: to the rumors we were hearing, to me is there's 361 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: something there that we don't know about. 362 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. I think that's really good. 363 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: I do think that some of the more high profile 364 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: teams and bigger budget teams are probably more focused on 365 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: guys like ranber Valdez, maybe Zach Gallen, Guys like that 366 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: who are known commodities and might be a little pricier. 367 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: I still for me someone like Gallan, and I think 368 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: or trading for somebody like Freddy Peralta. The things that 369 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 4: we've talked about sort of almost maybe too much on 370 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: this podcast, on this show, I think are I think. 371 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: I think I would still consider doing something that that 372 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: if I were the Giants, But they have bigger needs. 373 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about the outfield, We've talked a 374 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: lot about the offense. These are the areas they really 375 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: and of course they had to replace justin Verlander. They 376 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 4: needed more help in the rotation. To me, the rotation 377 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: was not number one on the must list. The outfield, 378 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: defense in the offense sort of combined are that and 379 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to go out and 380 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: get say a Cody Bellinger. Certainly not a Kyle Tucker, 381 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: you know, not at the numbers that we've heard from him, 382 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: which you know, again these are just projections, but as 383 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: much as four hundred million, that's not going to happen. 384 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: But it's possible that that Raphael Devers deal, which was 385 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 4: a bold stroke, stroke. 386 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: Of genius out of nowhere. 387 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: Loved it, still love it. It's possible that was their 388 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: big deal for the year and with that kind of expense, 389 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: and it is certainly a lot given you know it 390 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: goes through twenty thirty three, it's a big commitment. I 391 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: get that, But to me, and maybe the team seems 392 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: feels differently to date, maybe that's the signaling we're getting. 393 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: But to me, if you go out you sign a 394 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: Willia Domas and you then a few months later trade 395 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: for somebody like Rafael Dovers, you then keep building around them, 396 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a now we're done situation. And 397 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: no offense to Malle, no offense to Adrian Hauser. These 398 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: are good major league players, but I think the Giants 399 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: need to be looking in the deeper pool. They need 400 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: to be going and getting some of the top guys. 401 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 4: They're an organization that has the resources to do that, 402 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: and they haven't been to the postseason here since they're 403 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: in a tough division. Yes there is We're going to 404 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: get a little bit more into this. There are other 405 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: reasons you might not spend the potential labor stoppage next year, 406 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: But to me, if you really want to make the playoffs, 407 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: you've got a new manager who's already going to be 408 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: under a magnifying glass because of his unusual background, you 409 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: have got to give him a competitive roster, and right 410 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: now there are enough holes in this roster where I'm 411 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: not sure they're there. 412 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Giants fans are cranky right now, and 413 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: I think you know, you understand why, and I can relate. 414 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: I've been a. 415 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: Giants fan longer than I was a player, a coach 416 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: in the organization. 417 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: Or a broadcaster. I mean, I grew up a Giants. 418 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: Fan, So I get it when I read the comments 419 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: or I go on Twitter. I know the you know, 420 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: our comments are generally positive, and the people that watch 421 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: our show are very intelligent in the comments. And I 422 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: think Giants fans are some of the smartest fans in 423 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: all of baseball. They're very East coasty and that's a 424 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: common implement and they and they know that the Dodgers 425 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: are way up here and we're five hundred, so we're 426 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: waiting for this big splash, this big sign, something to 427 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: get us excited, and it just hasn't happened for whatever reason. 428 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: I'm not behind closed doors. I don't know what's going on. 429 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if Buster is going to Greg and saying, hey, 430 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: we need to sign this guy and Greg's like, whoa, 431 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: we can't. We just with Devers and Damis and Chapman 432 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 2: and web and we just can't right now and and 433 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: and all the other guys they signed too. So I 434 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: understand fans and why they're cranky right now. It's been 435 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: a very very quiet offseason and it's hard to like 436 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: sit here and bs fans and tell them like, these 437 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: are great signs and you know. 438 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: These guys are awesome. There's risk involved in. 439 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: Both of the pictures they signed, and it hasn't been 440 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: the big contract or Cody Bella or Kyle Tucker that 441 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: would get us all excited. It was like, okay, now, 442 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: if we just play scrappy baseball and twenty Vitello clicks 443 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: and we got some big names, maybe we can outwork 444 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: the Dodgers and find a way. But as it stands 445 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: right now, maybe that can happen. But I just want 446 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: to say that, like I understand where Giants fans are 447 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: coming from right now. 448 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: Patients is great. 449 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: I'm not a particularly patient person, so I understand the 450 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: fan base, but there is you know, we got about 451 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: what five weeks left before spring training. You can sign 452 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: guys during spring training, obviously, Matt Chatman was a spring 453 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: training signed, like Snow is a spring training sign. We 454 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: might be looking at that kind of spring again, looking 455 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 4: at some of the names that are still out there. 456 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: So I don't think that fans need to get quite 457 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: as I rate about things right now as anything else. 458 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: I hear a lot of things we talked and we 459 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: you know, we kind of mentioned kind of jokingly in 460 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 4: passing the purchase. So the current theater fans talk about 461 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: the team, Oh, they're more interested in their real estate 462 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: than in the baseball team. I wrote a story last 463 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: year about the real estate thing that is really and 464 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: pretty much legally very separate, separate from the ballpark operations. 465 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: They do have a partner in that, a development partner, 466 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: and it's a fifty to fifty thing, so uh and 467 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: major League Baseball watches those things pretty pretty carefully. 468 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: They do have. 469 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 4: To keep those things separate, So I don't think it 470 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: impacts I don't think the real estate thing impacts their budget. 471 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 4: But the labor strife, yes, you don't have to pay 472 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 4: your forty man payroll during labor a labor stoppage, that's 473 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: a huge expense, But you still have many many other expenses, 474 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: like a big Major League organization is enormous. You've got 475 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: minor leaguers, you've got minor league coaches, you've got facilities, 476 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: you've got insurance, you've got t you have all of 477 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: your auxiliary staff, which is significant, and all the many 478 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: other things that businesses have to you know, you know, 479 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: depreciation and debts and all of those many many things, 480 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: and you have no income coming in. So some teams 481 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: I think are pulling back a little bit this year, 482 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 4: belt tightening a little bit in anticipation of that, and 483 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: not because of their forty man rosters, because of all 484 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 4: of those other things. I think some of that's going on. 485 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 4: I also think that the Regional Sports Network essentially collapse, 486 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: which has not affected our local NBC Sports Bay area, 487 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: which we you know, both really enjoy watching and respect 488 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 4: so much. But I think that Rickety sort of model, 489 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: the RSN model, I think that is contributed to a 490 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: lot of teams sort of rethinking things, and of course 491 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: just the CBA. You don't know what the CBA is 492 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: going to be coming out of whatever happens next year, 493 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: hopefully no labor stoppage. Signs are pointing toward another one, 494 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: potential a long one, but a big change in the CBA. 495 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: If you've made a lot of decisions coming up for 496 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: a long time and suddenly there's a salary cap, whoops, 497 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: maybe you should have waited and made a lot of 498 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: your price here. Who's once there's some sort of salary cap. 499 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: I don't know who knows how teams are thinking, but 500 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 4: there are all sorts of reasons. But to me, I 501 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: think you when you got a shot, you got to 502 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: take it. And I think they the Giants do have 503 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: a good nucleus that all you have to do is 504 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: make the playoffs. How many times have we said this? 505 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: The Giants three championship teams, they were not the best 506 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: team in baseball any of those years. They were a 507 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 4: team that a couple of times basically got hot at 508 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: the end and then just kept it rolling. That's what 509 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: you want to do. That is really the key. We've 510 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: seen that so often in the wild card era, those 511 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 4: are often the best teams. 512 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 513 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 4: I always think you got to go for it. But 514 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: a team with this kind of resources, you got to 515 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: go for it. It's in another division they are probably 516 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: the favorites, but not in this one. 517 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm the last guy that's qualified to talk about finances. 518 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Just check out my bank account. 519 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: But the one thing I did learn about four years 520 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: ago talking to somebody high up in DC is that 521 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: you really don't make money on a year to year 522 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: basis as a baseball team, as a franchise. Maybe there's 523 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: a few, the Dodgers and being one, But what it 524 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: is is an investment. It's like a stock. You buy 525 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: the team for this, and you sell the team for this, 526 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: and the value of the ball club goes up. So 527 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: if you look at most organizations, they're really not making 528 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: money every year. And when Greg Johnson said we're just 529 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: trying to push I understood that because all my life 530 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: in baseball I never looked at it that way. 531 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: I thought, well, you guys are making money. There's a 532 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: full ballpark every day. 533 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: But when you talk about all those things, you talked 534 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 2: about the expenses and the players' salaries and whatever on 535 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: a year, to your basis, it's not about making money 536 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: that year. It's about buying the Giants for this, or 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: the Warriors is a great example. Now they're worth eight 538 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: billion or something like that, and you bought them for whatever, 539 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: one hundred million. 540 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: It's an investment over time. 541 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: So when Greg Johnson and the ownership group decides to 542 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: sell the Giants, someday they're going to profit big time. 543 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: And that's why you get in to owning a major 544 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: league sports franchise. 545 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And to take a step further, I was bored the 546 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: other day on the couch and I started. 547 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Googling around what does an NFL team make per game? 548 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: I know, like a Major League Baseball team makes about 549 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: a million dollars a game home game if they get 550 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: a good crowd. The Dallas Cowboys were number one. They 551 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: make one billion dollars a year, and it's based on 552 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: what you said, TV revenue, ticket sales. They have the 553 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: most luxury suites of any stadium. They got that oil 554 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: money down there, and they make between thirty and forty 555 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: million dollars a home game. And in the NFL, the 556 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: visit team gets a percentage of the gate or it 557 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: goes into a pool. So a certain percentage of every 558 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: home team's profit goes into a big pool and they 559 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: divide it equally amongst the teams for all their visiting games. 560 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: The number two team on that list was the Las 561 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders, and they're three and fourteen, but they make 562 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: thirty million dollars a home game, and their franchise is 563 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: worth X amount. I don't know the exact numbers. You 564 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: guys can fact check it, but that was what's that 565 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: all off? 566 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 3: Fewer games? 567 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: Eight games? 568 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: Yes, eight games eight eight or nine home games, whatever 569 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: it is, but that was really eye opening to me. 570 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: So I don't know about the finances. I don't know 571 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: what the Giants are willing to spend. I don't know 572 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: what their books look like. I don't know any of this. 573 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: I just know that the fans are frustrated because the 574 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: Dodgers are arch enemies, are winning World Series left and right, 575 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: and we're playing five hundred baseball and this isn't This 576 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: isn't a town that I live in right now. It's 577 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: used to five hundred baseball. They're used to parades on 578 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: Market Street. And I think that's what all giants want. 579 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: Giants fans want to get back and the giants too 580 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: want to get back. 581 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: To And what's the difference. 582 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: It's the media package that the Dodgers' media rights are, 583 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: you know, extraordinary, like they they and now they have 584 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: Japan and all of that TV and other broadcast money 585 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 4: comeing in. It's uh, you know, nobody can compete financially. 586 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: With the Dodgers right now. 587 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: So well, it would be very interesting to see what 588 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: happens in the CBA, because that's driving a lot of 589 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: the talk of the salary cap is the way the 590 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 4: Dodgers have operated. If I'm the Dodgers, I do the 591 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: same exact thing they You know, they're not breaking any 592 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: rules doing what they're doing. They have more money than 593 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: anybody else and they're spending it. But the franchise valuations 594 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: you're right on. You know, I cover the A's for 595 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: all those years and they cry poor, and you go, well, 596 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: look at your franchise valuation, even in when it was 597 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 4: an Oakland, even playing in the coliseum, the value of 598 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: the franchise was just skyrocketing from where the Fisher family 599 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 4: purchased the team, And you can borrow against that valuation. 600 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: I'd like you. 601 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: I am not a financial expert, but certainly we all 602 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: know you can borrow against assets, and those are very 603 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 4: very rich assets. So if you're struggling to meet your 604 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: payroll for whatever reason, your tiny attendance or or your 605 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: poor media rites, you can borrow against that valuation. So 606 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: I don't haven't covered the use for all those years, 607 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: and you know that they competed many many years despite 608 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 4: having a smaller payroll than those teams. So you know, 609 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: maybe that's what the A's are thinking, like, Hey, we're 610 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: more in sort of the Milwaukee range right now, and 611 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: I love that as a model. Clearly Milwaukee sort of 612 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: has been their model, but they have so many more 613 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: resources use them in the franchise valuation. 614 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, let's do you want to do 615 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: you want to touch yes? 616 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: Yes article In the same way the Giants. 617 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: Players safe in Venezuela. 618 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: I was going to tweet something and I thought better 619 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: of it, like don't kill the shortstops, but I thought 620 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: that it's too. 621 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: Political right now. I didn't want to throw that tweet 622 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: out there. 623 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: But he checked in with the Giants, and I think 624 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: the safety of the players and Luis Matos is down 625 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: there and some other minor league guys. 626 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: How's everybody doing well? 627 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: I actually I had a quick little text exchange with Hey, 628 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: sus Rodriguez, who I still think is going to be 629 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: a factor for the Giants this year. That wonderful catcher 630 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: that the Giants got in the Camilo Dovall trade with 631 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: the Yankees. He's playing winter ball, Matos is playing winter ball. 632 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: Everyone's fine. The travel is limited right now, airspace is closed, 633 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: so I think many players are trying to come back 634 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: to the US just because there's so much uncertainty, but 635 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: they're really limited in what they can do. 636 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: The Giants checked on. The Giants have an. 637 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: Extensive operations in Venicezuela. They have numerous scouts. In fact, 638 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: I would say they're Latin American. I mean they have 639 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: as many scouts I believe in Venezuela as they have 640 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: almost anywhere. So they and many many minor leaguers, so 641 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: they've checked in on everybody. They're telling everybody basically, you know, 642 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 4: for initially it was shelter in place. Now I think 643 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: it's just use you know, just use practical sort of 644 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: logic and you know, don't do anything nutty. Caracas has 645 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: been really the place where there's been a lot of activity, 646 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: so you know, if you're in Caracas, be careful and 647 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: otherwise I think everybody's pretty much okay. But FB you 648 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: were telling me the other day, you played winter ball 649 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: in Venezuela, as our friend Bruce Bochi did, loved the country. 650 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: What was your experience in Venezuela like because I have 651 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 4: enjoyed covering Venezuelan players as much as just basically any 652 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: other group of guys from any country. They're typically delightful, 653 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 4: so that must have been an amazing experience. 654 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: I could speak from experience, and some of my best 655 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: friends in baseball are from Venezuela. I just had an 656 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: idea while you were talking, maybe the Giants should send 657 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: Sealed Team six into Venezuela to get some players for 658 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: next year. 659 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't know to come on, buster, no, I played. 660 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: I played winter ball in Marikaipo, Venezuela in nineteen ninety two, 661 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: and there was a coup attempt while we were all 662 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: down there. So my team had three or four American players, 663 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: and Chavez came on the TV. All the stations were 664 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: him in his fatigues. He's in his camouflage and you 665 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: turn the channel. In nineteen ninety two, you turned the 666 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: channel like that in the hotel rooms and he was 667 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: telling everybody, this is your time to be free. Go 668 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: out in the streets. There was tanks rolling down the streets. 669 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: We couldn't leave our hotel in Caracas. Somebody stole then 670 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: F sixteen, which I don't know how you hot wire those, 671 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: but they stole the sixteen and they bombed the runway 672 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 2: in Caracas, so a lot of the American players were 673 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: freaking out. We couldn't get out of Venezuela. They canceled 674 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: all the games. We stayed in the hotel, and you know, 675 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: my wife at the time was there with me, and 676 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: we were scared. It was legit in Caracas. To Maracaibo 677 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: is like I don't know Los Angeles to hear if 678 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm to San Francisco, if I'm my geography's right. 679 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 680 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: But we weren't necessarily scared for our safety. It was 681 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: just a time of unrest and a coup attempt and 682 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: they tried to take over the government. So we just 683 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: decided we can beat two things you consider here and 684 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 2: be scared all day and sit in our rooms, or 685 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: we can go buy the pool in our hotel and 686 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: drink all day. So that's what we did. We just 687 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: laid out in the sun and had drinks, and finally 688 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: it got to the point where we didn't feel safe playing. 689 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: And I'm not sure because it was so long ago, 690 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: I want to say I faked an injury to get 691 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: back home to get out of there because my wife 692 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 2: at the time and I didn't feel safe. 693 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: But I have so many fond. 694 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: Memories of Maracaibo, my teammates, the people in Venezuela are 695 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: just amazing. Venezuela it means little Venice, so there's like 696 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: a huge Italian ancestry there. So some of the best 697 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: Italian food I ever had was in Marichaivo, Venezuela, and 698 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: the teammates would invite me over to dinner and I'd 699 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: sit there with their families and the food was amazing 700 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: and the people are amazing. So Venezuela is near and 701 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: dear to my heart. While I joke about it, whatever, 702 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: my experience there and Winter Ball minus Tanks and Chavez 703 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: on TV was just incredible, wonderful people, some of my 704 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: favorite teammates ever. 705 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: And I just hope everybody's okay down there. Yeah. 706 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: I had a few readers ask why this was even 707 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 4: a story, like the baseball players aren't being targeted obsolutely. Well, 708 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: you kind of just hit the nail on the head. 709 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: In any time of uncertainty, it's scary. So that alone 710 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 4: for the Giants makes things nerve wracking. You got a 711 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: lot of people there. It's not just you know, two 712 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: guys on the forty man roster. Jose Guto is also 713 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 4: from Venezuela. He lives in Florida in the off season, 714 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 4: so I don't want to leave him out. But there's 715 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: the uncertainty, so that's nerve wracking. But also there's the 716 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: baseball industry there and they're currently starting their playoffs, but 717 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: travel is essentially impossible. Nobody's got baseball. 718 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: In their minds. 719 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 4: They really shouldn't, you know, this is an international event, 720 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: and you know, we're not going to talk anything about 721 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 4: any of the politics involved here, but just for the 722 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 4: normal people, it's scary. I talked to our friend Carlos 723 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 4: Ramirez from NBC Sports Area. 724 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: He's from Venezuela. 725 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: His parents are there, his former in laws who he's 726 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: close to, are there, his former brother in law is there, 727 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 4: and they were affected. They live in Caracas. They lost power, 728 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: they didn't have internet, which actually gets even more scary 729 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: because you got people here going on, how are you doing, 730 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: and they can't reach you. 731 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: It's a tough time. 732 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: So they can hear the bombing, you know, I think 733 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: if somebody was bombing San Francisco or Sacramento, I'd be 734 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 4: freaking out and wondering, why are we even playing baseball 735 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: right now? What's happening? So I hope people have at 736 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 4: least a little bit of empathy for what the country 737 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: is going through, whatever you think of the actions there. 738 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: And remember these are all people, this is their country. 739 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: You know, my heart goes out to everybody there that's 740 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 4: affected in any way. 741 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: Well, said Susan Slicer, outstanding. Do you want to touch 742 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: on Korea? 743 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: Do you want to wrap it up? It's your call. 744 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So that was fun because you talked a 745 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 4: little bit about the Giants and sort of their push 746 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: to do more in Asia, and they have been all along. 747 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 4: You know, the previous front office was in Asia frequently. 748 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 4: This is not unusual for any big league team. But 749 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: look that the Dodgers now pretty much own Japan, including culturally, right, 750 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 4: that's of course they do. I think Giants would like 751 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 4: to be certainly one of the most prominent teams in 752 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: South Korea. I think they already are. You know, Junguli 753 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 4: is a legit superstar in South Korea. 754 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 3: I think the Giants would like to take. 755 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 4: That and use that to become, you know, have more 756 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: of a presence both culturally. They've been doing a lot 757 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 4: of cultural events. Willia Damas is there too? What a 758 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 4: great ambassador for the Giants. Tony Vitello is there? Great 759 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 4: ambassador for the Giants? Buster Posey there? 760 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 3: Legend. 761 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 4: They've been meeting with people from the KBO. They've been 762 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: going out and going to restaurants. They're doing all sorts 763 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 4: of fun stuff, and they're holding a clinic for high 764 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 4: school baseball players. This sort of just a love fest 765 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: really with South Korea, and I am here for it. 766 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: I think there is going to be, you know, good 767 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 4: things that come out of it, not just potentially signing 768 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: some top Korean talent if the Giants become the destination 769 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 4: to go to, but also METEA RTEs and things like that, 770 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 4: the practical things that teams need to consider. There's no 771 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: doubts signed to it, plus fun. I was kind of 772 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: zach Manaszi and was telling us all this stuff that 773 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: they're doing, and like, wow, I feel like maybe they 774 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 4: needed a recorder or two to go, you know, find 775 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 4: out what was happening over there too. 776 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: I saw a funny tweet last night on X or 777 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 2: whatever the hell you call it now, and it said, 778 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: what is Buster posey doing in Korea. He should be 779 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: outside Kyle Tucker's window with an eighties boot box raised 780 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: over his head playing in Your Eyes. 781 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: From the movie Say Anything. I thought that was hilarious. 782 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's cool that that those guys 783 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: have taken time out to go there and just have 784 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 2: a good time. 785 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: Things are about to get serious. 786 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we're right around the corner from you and 787 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 2: I me and in Scottsdale for a while spring trains 788 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: around the corner. I'm going to Scottsdale on Thursday for 789 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 2: fun in Fantasy Camp. 790 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we are trying to get the followers. 791 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: Follow us on Instagram at splash hit Territory, on Twitter 792 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 2: at splashit Territory, go to YouTube search us. We love 793 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: you guys, like I say on the way out, every 794 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: single time, I'm swing hard in case you hit it.