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Speaker 1: It's the son of a butcher podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Claude harmon come to you every Wednesday. This week's guest,

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Speaker 1: I think, one of the real feel good, kind of

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Speaker 1: positive stories currently in this crazy game of professional golf

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Speaker 1: that we find ourselves in. Um. Kyle, one of the

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Speaker 1: graduates off the corn ferry, has his PGA Tour Card.

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Speaker 1: Now you will see him on the PGA tour. uh,

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Speaker 1: but what a really interesting story, interesting background. Uh. Went

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Speaker 1: to the Air Force Academy. UH, served five years after

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Speaker 1: the Military Academy. Um, so a tenure process to get

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Speaker 1: to the corn ferry and then to get his card.

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Speaker 1: and Um, I really really enjoyed talking to kyle. I'd

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Speaker 1: watched him Um at the US Open that he qualified

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Speaker 1: for out at Tory Pines in Um. But I think

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Speaker 1: this is a story that everybody can get behind and

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Speaker 1: kind of his journey to the PGA tour is very,

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Speaker 1: I think, unique. Um, it's inspiring and um I think

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Speaker 1: everybody's going to really really enjoy listening to it and

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Speaker 1: I think that with the PGA tour starting, Um, the

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Speaker 1: new season, the rap around and I think he is

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Speaker 1: going to be someone that everybody listening will be looking

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Speaker 1: out for. So really excited for the talk with Kyle Westmoreland.

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Speaker 1: My guest is one of the twenty five players from

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Speaker 1: the corner ferry tour to secure their PGA tour card.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Westmoreland. Um, Kyle, you're the first player to play

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Speaker 1: on the PGA tour to come out of the Air

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Speaker 1: Force Academy. I mean, are you gonna demand that they

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Speaker 1: announce you on the on the first tie of your

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Speaker 1: first PGA tour event as Captain Kyle Westmoreland? Are you

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Speaker 1: just happy with Kyle? I'm just happy with Kyle. You know,

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Speaker 1: captain was something we were in the past, but happy

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Speaker 1: to be a golfer now and happy to be playing

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Speaker 1: on the golf spe stage. I really appreciate you having

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Speaker 1: me on. Um, what an amazing story. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think with all the craziness currently going on, Um, in

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Speaker 1: the world of Professional Golf, with the PGA tour and

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Speaker 1: the live and all that, you know, crazy drama. I mean,

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Speaker 1: your story to me is one of the great kind

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Speaker 1: of feel good stories about, you know, what the game

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Speaker 1: of golf allows people to do and and your story, Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's so much to unpack, but I've got

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Speaker 1: I gotta Talk to you. I don't think people that

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Speaker 1: that watch golf realize that, you know, trying to make

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Speaker 1: it into the tour championship, trying to keep your card.

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Speaker 1: But I think, Um, the drama on on the corn

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Speaker 1: ferry every year for guys trying to get their cards,

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Speaker 1: to get twenty five opportunities to to have a life

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Speaker 1: changer to play on the PGA tour. Um, it's always

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Speaker 1: to me some of the best drama. What was it

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Speaker 1: like for you? Um, you missed the cut in the

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Speaker 1: first of the finals, which puts you behind the eight ball,

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Speaker 1: and then you pull it out. Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: honestly there's not. There's not much like it. You feel

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Speaker 1: you feel some nerves or anxiousness, you know, playing different

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Speaker 1: tournaments in different situations, but honestly, there's nothing that compares

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Speaker 1: end on the bubble Um, other than maybe q school right.

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Speaker 1: Q schools super, you know, competitive and there's so many

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Speaker 1: trying to do the same, you know, Corn Ferry tour finals.

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Speaker 1: I did put myself on the eight ball, which didn't help.

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Speaker 1: Played well in Ohio. You know, we're pushing for a

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Speaker 1: of those opportunities, Kyle, to where going into the finals,

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Speaker 1: so much easier said than done when you're in that

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Speaker 1: to where it's taken out of your control. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know, I typically do my best to uh, like

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Speaker 1: I don't watch any leaderboards. So I don't look at

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Speaker 1: I mean there was a great there's a famous story yes,

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Speaker 1: and especially this last round, right last trying to Victoria national,

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's a way different kind of media set up.

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Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't. I knew there were service

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Speaker 1: time afterwards and that, you know, likely playing sport was

427
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Speaker 1: off the table. But I uh, you know, I chose

428
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Speaker 1: to go there. Had No idea that anything happened after

429
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Speaker 1: basic chining. So how it works as your fresh year,

430
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Speaker 1: summer before your freshman year, in June, is when was mine,

431
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Speaker 1: when mine was your report, and you're straight into basic training.

432
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Speaker 1: You know, you're going full speed eight weeks and then

433
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Speaker 1: the school the academic season, their academic year starters. And

434
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Speaker 1: when that academic year starts, you know, I thought that

435
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Speaker 1: was it, like Hey, I've gone through basically, you know,

436
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Speaker 1: a part of the academy. It turns out there's like

437
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Speaker 1: a whole freshman year process. So you're still getting you know,

438
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Speaker 1: you're still getting the brunt of it for for the

439
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: whole year there, and then after that, you know it's

440
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Speaker 1: your sophomore year. kind of tears tears you up mentally.

441
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Speaker 1: As far as you know, they just load courses on

442
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Speaker 1: you and then your junior and senior year much better,

443
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Speaker 1: but you have service time after that. You know, I

444
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Speaker 1: chose not to fly and so I had a five

445
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Speaker 1: year service commitment. If you fly out of the Academy

446
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Speaker 1: it's a twelve year commitment. Um. So it's so it's

447
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Speaker 1: like basically. It's like basically. Either it's like basically going

448
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Speaker 1: to med school. You know that wherever you go to

449
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: to college and get your your degree in medicine, then

450
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Speaker 1: there is another process. So for you to one day

451
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Speaker 1: have your practice and someone call you Dr Wes Mooreland,

452
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Speaker 1: you know as a doctor that that process is X. Um.

453
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Speaker 1: What was the reason? Was the reason that you chose

454
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Speaker 1: not to go down the pilot route at the Air

455
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Speaker 1: Force Academy? I mean, I think you know in the military,

456
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Speaker 1: whether it's the army, the Navy, the Air Force and Marines,

457
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: there are so many you know, the commercials show you

458
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Speaker 1: all of these different things that you can do. It's

459
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Speaker 1: just not being a general, it's just not being, you know,

460
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Speaker 1: a fighter. was there a conscious decision that said, okay,

461
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Speaker 1: I want to try and have a career in golf

462
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Speaker 1: after this. Um, the commitment to be a pilot is

463
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Speaker 1: probably going to make me miss that window. Absolutely. So

464
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Speaker 1: I didn't. When I got to the Air Force Academy,

465
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Speaker 1: I was excited and while I was interested in was,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, making those first tournaments and competing and that

467
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Speaker 1: even you know, that drive even got further through basic

468
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Speaker 1: train any when I learned that, you know, there was something.

469
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Speaker 1: There was a freshman year that was still you're still

470
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Speaker 1: going to be in the front of it, but if

471
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Speaker 1: you went to a tournament, you know you're gonna miss

472
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Speaker 1: a week of that at a time. So so it

473
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Speaker 1: was even you know, spurred to make those tournaments more.

474
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Speaker 1: But I had great coaching there. Um, I had, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: coach George Corey, who was a head coach at the

476
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Speaker 1: Air Force for a long time, and then coach Chris Wilson,

477
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Speaker 1: who's now in Kansas, but he's a great coach. He's

478
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Speaker 1: gotten he's made teams better everywhere he's gone and he's

479
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Speaker 1: really a player development guy. Now there's a sense like

480
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Speaker 1: swing technique and stuff like that, but kind of course management,

481
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Speaker 1: game management. So I got there and he introduced me

482
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Speaker 1: to the thing called a wedge basket and, uh, we

483
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Speaker 1: sat on Wedge Baskets for about my first year and

484
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Speaker 1: a half. There and you know, so we kind of

485
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Speaker 1: worked on that short game, worked on the wedges, worked

486
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Speaker 1: on the scoring clubs and just beat it into us

487
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Speaker 1: and you know, we we got that. The whole team

488
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Speaker 1: got better those years. It turned out to be the

489
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Speaker 1: best team air force has ever had. But for me,

490
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Speaker 1: my junior senior year at Backman to some success. You know,

491
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Speaker 1: I was able to when I guess, uh, I don't know,

492
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Speaker 1: like five times or so, but I won a all

493
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Speaker 1: American Tournament and at that point I was like, okay,

494
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Speaker 1: I can do this, I can compete with these guys

495
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Speaker 1: and I want to do it. I want to pursue this.

496
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Speaker 1: And so that was the time where I made the

497
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Speaker 1: conscious decision that golf is what I was going to

498
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Speaker 1: do after after my service time. Going there, I didn't

499
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Speaker 1: know the golf is what I was going to do,

500
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Speaker 1: but I kind of backed into it um so. So

501
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: it was an awesome experience and as soon as I

502
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Speaker 1: made that decision I knew pilot was out the window.

503
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Speaker 1: Twelve years is too long. In the first two years

504
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Speaker 1: of those twelve years you are not touching the golf

505
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Speaker 1: club because you're you know, you're going through pilot training.

506
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Speaker 1: Your studying and you've got all kinds of stuff going.

507
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Speaker 1: So I chose a career field. Um, well, they chose

508
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Speaker 1: a career for me, but it turned out to the

509
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Speaker 1: financial management. Took me to Bloxi and Charleston. Um, so both,

510
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, in the south, which were great. You know,

511
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Speaker 1: allowed me to get out and play in practice. Used to.

512
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Speaker 1: There's a night range in Charleston, so I use that

513
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Speaker 1: a bunch. Knew the College of Charleston Coach through college

514
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Speaker 1: to play a lot with their team on the weekends

515
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: and and just trying to get better. Um, I know

516
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Speaker 1: you know Alan Tarrell. I worked at Allent Haarrell for

517
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Speaker 1: a long time and he was up in Myrtle Beach,

518
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: so about ninety minutes away. So it was it was

519
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Speaker 1: a good time and try to get better where I could.

520
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Speaker 1: But like to answer your question. It was a conscious

521
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Speaker 1: decision about my I guess my junior year that I

522
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Speaker 1: was not going to fly. So five years you have

523
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Speaker 1: some success, but then you graduate from the Air Force

524
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Speaker 1: Econemy and you know that you've got to wait another

525
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Speaker 1: five years of giving your service to the Air Force.

526
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Speaker 1: Cat It takes, I would kyle, it takes a lot

527
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Speaker 1: of mental strength to stay focused on a dream and

528
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: a goal that long, because I worked with so many

529
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Speaker 1: young kids that are seventeen, eighteen. You remember what you

530
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: were like there, and you say, listen, I want to

531
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Speaker 1: go play Division One college golf or division two whatever.

532
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: And I say this all the time on the PODCAST.

533
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: I see more kids that are better when they're sixteen

534
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: years old than they are when they're nineteen and twenty.

535
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Speaker 1: They get burned out. Life happens. They meet, you know,

536
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Speaker 1: a guy or a girl, they've never had a boyfriend

537
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: or a girlfriend. They they're away from their parents for

538
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Speaker 1: the first time, Um, and they just said, listen, I

539
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: ultimately I just I just don't want to work this hard. Um,

540
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Speaker 1: was it hard? Or does all of the training that

541
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Speaker 1: the military, the air force, puts you through on the process,

542
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: on discipline, on all of the things, did it make

543
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Speaker 1: the five years easier for you? Do you think? You know,

544
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Speaker 1: as far as the easier in the sense of in

545
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Speaker 1: the sense of golf not burning out? You know, I've

546
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: always seen golf, from the time I went to college,

547
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 1: even in high school, as as an opportunity. Right. So

548
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: opportunity to play in a golf tournament is always something

549
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: that you know, has been great. Um has been you know,

550
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I've I've looked forward to and I still look forward

551
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: to him even playing. You know, there's twenty six weeks

552
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: on the corn ferry. We played twenty seven, so we

553
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: played them all and then one up on the we

554
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: played the Honda as well. So, you know, play one there.

555
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: But but throughout my service time, you know, I looked

556
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: forward to going on the weekends to work on Golf.

557
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: I look forward to playing in my next tournament, whether

558
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: that was a state open or a Monday qualifier or

559
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Um. But the perspective and and

560
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: I really like the process of, you know, trying to

561
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: get better, going out playing, analyzing what you did, trying to,

562
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, put some data behind it and go and go,

563
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: get better at that. And I've always liked that and

564
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: I think the military doesn't still that in you. And

565
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, the thing I'm most you know, most glad

566
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Speaker 1: they're most appreciative of them from the military are the

567
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: people that I met. You. I met so many good people,

568
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: so many great supportive people that, you know, followed me

569
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Speaker 1: through this journey. Um. And then the perspective, you know

570
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: that he gave me right I was able to travel around,

571
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: got to uh, you know, I had going into college.

572
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I had been to one other country and I was Mexico,

573
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: and it was, for you know, a graduation trip, right,

574
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: and so I got to tour around the world see

575
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Speaker 1: some different parts of the world, good bad. I met

576
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Speaker 1: some great people along the way and I think that

577
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Speaker 1: perspective carries me and, you know, kind of defines who

578
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: we are now and you learn who you are right.

579
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: I think it's a huge leg up on the guys

580
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: that are coming straight out of college. You know, you

581
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: barely know how to tie your shoes or what's important

582
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Speaker 1: as far as what's important to you coming out of

583
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: college and I got to kind of learn who who

584
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: we who we were, we being my wife and I

585
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: am going through this together, but kind of learn who

586
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: we are and what's important to us. And you know,

587
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: you can try to carry that into the game of golf.

588
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: I think the other thing that I find interesting is,

589
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, if if you you wanted to go to

590
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: the University of Texas, because you see Scottische Scheffler have success.

591
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: You know Jordan's speak, all of the great players that

592
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: have come Justin Leonard, all the great players that have

593
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: come out of those programs and you can find them anywhere.

594
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: You can find them at Alabama, you can find them

595
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma state. There aren't other than Billy Hurley, who

596
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: was in the navy. There isn't someone that you can

597
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: point to and look to and say, okay, he's my

598
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: role model, because there's not twenty people that have come

599
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: out of the armed forces and said, okay, I'm gonna

600
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: play professional golf and make it on the PGA tour,

601
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: on the European tour, wherever they play. I think it's

602
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: fascinating that. Um, I always think it's interesting that you

603
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: know a lot of the players that come from around

604
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: the world, from different countries. It allows the junior golfers

605
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: to say, listen, I'm I'm a junior golfer in India

606
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: and honor Bond Lahieri plays on the PGA tour. I

607
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: can do that. He's a role model for you. You

608
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: you don't have that at the Air Force. There's somebody

609
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: that you said, Oh, yeah, there was a guy two

610
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: years ago, he's now playing on there. Yeah, and then

611
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: there was a guy six years ago. He came out

612
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: of the academy, he's on tour now. Um, was that

613
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: hard to not have that kind of role model that

614
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: you could kind of look up to and then ask, Hey,

615
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: how did you do this? Yeah, so I actually am

616
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: fortunate to be friend pretty your friends and Billy Hurley.

617
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: He lives about a mile from me now and UH,

618
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. So, so billy had done it.

619
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Speaker 1: And there's a guy named Tom Whitney. He was about

620
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: four years older than me. He's doing is on a

621
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: corn ferry tour. Um, but not having, you know, not

622
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: having someone to talk to about it too much. You know,

623
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Speaker 1: I'm not super worried about I've been fortunate enough to

624
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: meet meet some guys. Gary Woodland is a great guy

625
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: and and to be honest, you know, and in my

626
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: it sounds bad, but I don't. I don't really idolize golfers. Right,

627
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. You know, I love aspects of

628
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: People's games. I love to see how guys handle different situations. Um,

629
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: but you know, that's just one of those things where

630
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: you know who you are and you gotta trust in

631
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: what you have. And Uh, you know whether there hasn't

632
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: been anyone from the air force, but I hope there's

633
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: gonna be more after this and I'm an open book

634
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: if anyone you know in the military wants to reach

635
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: out and ask how I did it and or you

636
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: know what I would do differently or anything like that.

637
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: So hopefully, hopefully I can be be that to some

638
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: people coming out of the military. So you finished your

639
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: military service, you know, ten years at the academy as

640
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: a student as a Golfer, then ten years. I read that. Um,

641
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: during those five years, Um, when you were, you know,

642
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: waiting to to get out of the military, Um, you

643
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: would do a lot of stuff at night, sometimes if

644
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: you were traveling in a hotel room, putting short game

645
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: um in your hotel. I mean talk me through that process. Yes,

646
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: we have a night range here in Charleston that you know.

647
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: It has, has lights on it or whatnot. So I

648
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: ended up going out there a lot. I contributed. I

649
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: was a frequent range member there. During the week I

650
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: went out to a place called Patriots Point, where College

651
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Charleston Practices here and grinded on a pretty hard in

652
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: the weekend. But I got really good at putting on

653
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: a ruler. You know, there's there's always the saying that

654
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: an air force, Air Force based has a golf course

655
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: and most of them do. But that is the Venus

656
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: in great shape or anything. So chip and stuff. I

657
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: chipped to you know, people laugh at me because my

658
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: chipping practice now I chipped the holes right it so

659
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: just trying to land it in the hole, not where

660
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: it was going to. So I got Um. You know,

661
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: I started chipping the holes to tease and then putting

662
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: on a ruler right, so just making strike and can

663
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: control that first eighteen inches of the put. Um. You know,

664
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: it's what I grinded on a lot during my time,

665
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: whether that was wearing boots or whatever, you know, doing it.

666
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: It was you know, there's a little gray area there,

667
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: but but it was. But it was awesome and you know,

668
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: I just tried to get better where I could. And

669
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: then my last assignment was back at the Air Force

670
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: Academy and teaching. So that was a great assignment for

671
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: me because I had access to the same facilities that

672
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: he was using in college and even if it was

673
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: dark there's they do have an indoor there. So I

674
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: was able to, you know, really get some work in,

675
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: get some video work in. But you know, there's Times

676
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: where I was gone played, you know, as we got

677
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: stuck in Spain. We were in route to Africa. Got

678
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Stuck in Spain and played three rounds of golf with

679
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, they only let me it would only let

680
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: me rent one club per day. So I played to

681
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: the six iron, player with the seven iron, played with

682
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: an eight iron, and it turns out the six iron

683
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: is probably the best one play with on that course.

684
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: So so I have one clubbed it for three days.

685
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: But you know, it just got better where we could

686
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: and got ready to go. You're not alone in practicing Um,

687
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: you know inside I could. I remember and Tiger Woods

688
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: was in college and my dad was working with tiger

689
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: and he called from a tournament and he said, you know,

690
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't really hitting at that good and he was like,

691
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like the cloud was getting a

692
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: little bit behind me, or whatever he was saying. And

693
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: My Dad told me the story afterwards and my dad said, listen,

694
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, we've been working on trying to get the

695
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: club here, here, here, and Tiger said, hold on a

696
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: minute and he put the phone down. In my dad

697
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: says he here's this noise of Tiger hitting a shot.

698
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: In my dad says, are you in your hotel room?

699
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: What are you doing? He goes yeah, no, I took

700
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: the rug and put it over the window and I'm

701
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: hitting balls inside my room into a rug in the

702
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: hotel room and said you're gonna break something and tigers

703
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: to no. I mean, I've got to try and work

704
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: on this. Like. So you're not alone in trying, Um,

705
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: to get better. I think you've said this a couple

706
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: of times. Get better where you can. Um. Where does

707
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: that kind of philosophy and thought come from for you? Uh,

708
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I think between coaches and

709
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: in my military time, you know, you're always you're throwing

710
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: different stuff, maybe playing other courts. You're always there's always

711
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna be some scenario, but you can always, you know,

712
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: do your part and feel like you're doing, you know,

713
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: everything you can, and I think that that's half the battle, right,

714
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: is having being mentally, you know, sharp enough and confident

715
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: enough to say like Hey, I've done everything I can

716
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: to get here, to make this possible. Now it's time

717
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: to go out and do it right. I think if

718
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: you believe that you've done the preparation, you believe in

719
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: your game. Um, I think that you know, that goes

720
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: a long way. They say they say. You know, true,

721
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: you can, you can have a chip on your shoulder

722
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: right for not being able to play for five years,

723
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: but that only gets you so far. Confidence will take

724
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: you the rest of the way. So I don't need

725
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: to be cocky about it, but you know, for me,

726
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I just I want to know that I've given everything

727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: I have and I've done all the preparation I can

728
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: to be ready to go. How much of your time

729
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: in the military and the things that being um in

730
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: the military, being in the Air Force, going through basic training,

731
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: how much of that regimented day in, day out? Of

732
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: Do it? You've got to do it this way. There's

733
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: one way to do things. We stick to the process. Uh,

734
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I would imagine that has helped you with not only

735
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: your golf on the golf course, but are you very

736
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: regimented in the way that you practice and the way

737
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: that you prepare? Very very much. So, yeah, yeah, everything's

738
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: you know it. It may change a little bit pending

739
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: on the day, but I'm very structured. I have things

740
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: that I want to get done every day and you know,

741
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: basically I try to check them off. You know, there's

742
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: days where I'll fall short because I didn't make it

743
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: out of a drill or something like that. But I

744
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, but I need to. I mean I feel

745
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: like sticking to that regiment that you kind of the

746
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: military military has instructed and instilled in me. I mean,

747
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: I have things I want to get done and I

748
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: get them done, whether it takes, you know, two hours

749
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: or twenty minutes. You know, I just want to get

750
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: those done and I would say yes, I'm very, very regiment,

751
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: especially on playing days. So give me kind of a

752
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: overall view of of your game. Um, I've read you

753
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: can get up to two hundred and six ball speed

754
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: with the driver. I mean that is pushing kind of

755
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: that kind of low end of where the long drivers are.

756
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the range that you know,

757
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: Bryson got into. I mean Dj. I mean I think

758
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: the most I've seen DJ get up to, you know,

759
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: ball speed wise, is kind of in somewhere in the

760
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: not in the one nineties. Um, driving the golf ball. Um,

761
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: another thing I read you have three you said you

762
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: have three different driver swings. Talk me through the three

763
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: different driver swings and what they are. Yeah, just depending

764
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: on the course, you know, playing at. I never I'll

765
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: never play. I'll never play a golf course with, you know,

766
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: over two hundred ball speed. Right. It's there. They're just

767
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: not enough for him to hit it. If you you know,

768
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: draw out that cone, that decade cone, if you want

769
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: to use decade, it's it's a uh, it gets pretty

770
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: wide there that landing area. But you know, I my

771
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: cruising speed, you know speeds, we call it a cruising swing,

772
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: isn't anywhere from about eight eight to nine and two

773
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: and I think that's a comfortable I think it's a

774
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: comfortable place to play. You can play everywhere Um for

775
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: the most part. And you know, it for control for

776
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: me is there. I like to I like to cut

777
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: a driver like draw three wood Um, so you know

778
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of where where it fits right. And then the

779
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: second swing is a we call it a bunt. Um

780
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: comes off about undred sixty ball speed, flies about two

781
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: fifty and it basically a shot that you know, in

782
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: Colorado started using because it you know, winds can blow

783
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: fifty miles per hour. So the ball gets probably fifteen

784
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: feet in year and flies about two fifty. It's it's

785
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: the same. It's the same as a two iron. I

786
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: just there's just less room for error, right. But there's

787
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: a time to use and there's a time not. You know,

788
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: if we've got wind blowing in off the left, I'm

789
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: not gonna hit the Bund because it doesn't have enough

790
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: spin on it. You know, hold the line right, it's

791
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna fall off to the right. So so there's a

792
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: time for that and then full swing. You know, if I,

793
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: you know, want to, want to hit one out there

794
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: kind of how we played Tory Tory Pines last year,

795
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: if there's like a three cover or something like that. Um,

796
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: we'll bump it up to mid mid nineties probably. So

797
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you said you're cruising speed kind of just every day

798
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand feet, take the seatbelt off, ball speeds

799
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: kind of in the high one eighties. Just for everybody listening,

800
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean Dj and and when I worked with Brooks,

801
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: kept going. I mean they kind of cruised right around

802
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: in kind of that one eight, one eighty three range

803
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: to wear that. So I mean you're, you know, miles

804
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: your five to ten miles per hour faster than those

805
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: guys are. Um, what are the areas of your game,

806
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, moving forward now that you've made this big

807
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: jump to get to the you know, the biggest stage, Um,

808
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: and play on the P G A tour. What are

809
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: the areas of your game, Kyle? Are you going to

810
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: try and feel like you can make some gains in,

811
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: and use that phrase, just to get a little bit

812
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: better at yeah, so, honestly, driving is one of those things.

813
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: When I came out of college I was I was

814
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: swinging harder, so I was said at about one thirty

815
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: five six club head speed Um coming out of college,

816
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: and and so I've we've toned it back right are everything,

817
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: everything I do is to try to drive it a

818
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: little bit straighter and get those strokes gain driving up,

819
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: because there's been many tournaments out there where I've actually

820
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: lost strokes driving because I'm, you know, I'm hitting it

821
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: in the rough to a short sided pen or something

822
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: like that. So for me, you know, I'm trying to

823
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: get better off the tea. That's that's kind of kind

824
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: of been our status quo for the last couple of years.

825
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a it could be a huge advantage

826
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: for me if I'm able to effectively use it um

827
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: but until then, you know, I think for the last

828
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: couple of years, you know, hitting it far has been,

829
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: you know, such a high ticket item and I think

830
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: it's the most overrated asset and golf right, there's a

831
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: few courses out there that really benefited, Tory Pines being

832
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: one of them. Or if you take a course like

833
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: an oak ing and you and you draw the sorry

834
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: going wing foot, getting courses mixed up here. Um, you

835
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: draw the fairways in too narrow to where everyone's gonna

836
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: miss the fairway, then it just becomes a long drive contest, right,

837
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: and so other other than those courses. Um, you know,

838
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I want to be able to win. I feel like

839
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: I can Win Day weekend and wink out. And so

840
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: for me to do that, I think we need to

841
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: get a little better driving golf ball. You know, you

842
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: mentioned distance. Everybody listening thinks that, okay, the way to

843
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: get better is to hit the golf ball further. And

844
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: we look at the best players in the world right now.

845
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Rory mcelroy hits the golf ball. Miles John Ram hits

846
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: the golf ball. Miles Dj Brooks, when he was dominated,

847
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: did that. BRYSON dominated a couple of years ago by

848
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: hitting the golf ball a long way. Um, players are

849
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: trying to hit the golf ball further, but at some point,

850
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: like you said, you have to have. I always call

851
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: it usable distance. It doesn't do you any good to

852
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: have all of this distance. To me, it's a little

853
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: bit like a race car driver. Um, you've got to

854
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: get the car around the track without crashing. It doesn't

855
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: matter how fast you're driving it. If you're driving it

856
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: too fast and you're crashing, it doesn't doesn't do you

857
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: any good. Yeah, diminishing returns. You know that that cone

858
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: at like one percent at three sixty yard land zone.

859
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: It's like ninety yards, ninety yards wide, right and so like.

860
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: If you show me a course or you can hit

861
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: it in a ninety yard window, then I'll show then

862
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: I'll show you two hundred balls being on a course,

863
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: but until then I'm not gonna do it. It's just

864
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: diminishing returns. And you know there's a there's a place

865
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: for it, but uh, you know I'm I'm trying to

866
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: hit it and chase and hit it again. You mentioned Um,

867
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Tory Pines shut seven under to qualify for the US

868
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Open in two thousand and twenty one. I saw you there. Um,

869
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: I know you played some practice rounds with Gary Woodland. Um,

870
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: you made the cut. What was that experience like? I

871
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: mean to play in the US Open, but to play

872
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: it on an iconic kind of then or they play

873
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: a tour event there, Tiger Woods, just one there. Um,

874
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: it's a great golf course. What did you learn that week?

875
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: and was that week kind of looking back now, was

876
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: that an opportunity for you to use that as okay,

877
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: I made the cut in a in a in a major, Um,

878
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I can do this. I'm going to take this and

879
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: and move forward with this. Yeah, you know, to be honest,

880
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: we we kind of felt a little short of our

881
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: goals that week. But what was the goal? Well, the

882
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: goal is to do well enough where you you continue

883
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: playing on the PGA tour, which probably would have taken

884
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: the top ten, maybe fifteen and a major to continue

885
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: to play. So so that was our goal and there's

886
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: if there's a course to do it, it's that one, right.

887
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: And so we got there, created a game plan. So

888
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: there was a lot of bunkers to cover at about

889
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: yards and you know, knew that we could. Knew that

890
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: we could be in the mix if we execute a

891
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: game plan well. So, if anything, coming off that week

892
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: it was just, you know, a lot of reassurance. Hey,

893
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: we can compete here, we can you know, continue to

894
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: get better and refine the same process as we have

895
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: and go about playing the same way and as long

896
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: as we, you know, execute well, we can compete with

897
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: these guys and I think you know, that's a huge reassurance. Right,

898
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: the best players in the world are playing in the

899
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: US Open. Obviously there's a bunch of qualifiers there too,

900
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: so it's not, you know, the player's field or whatever,

901
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: but it is. But it is a great field and

902
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: you have all the best and you know, you see

903
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: yourself competing with them, playing against them, and you know,

904
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: if for me it's just, you know, helps build that

905
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: confidence right. That I think you need to have. The

906
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Corn Ferry Um, I don't think the average golf fan

907
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: has any comprehension as to day in, day out, weekend,

908
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: week out, on the corn ferry tour how low you

909
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: have to shoot. You shoot sixty eight on the corn

910
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: ferry tour in the first round your ten back. I

911
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: mean you shoot four under. Somebody everything. It seems like

912
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: every single day on the corn ferry tour someone shoots

913
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: a course record, someone shooting sixty two, someone, multiple guys

914
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: are shooting sixty three. It is a it is a

915
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: it is a sprint. It is not a marathon. Every

916
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: single round on the corn ferry tour you feel like

917
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: you have to go to my dad always says that

918
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: anybody that comes off the corn ferry and and gets

919
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: a PGA tour card, Um, they will learn have they

920
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: will have learned how to shoot low. Um. What is

921
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: that like as a player, knowing that okay, is probably

922
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: not gonna get it this week? Yeah, yeah, I mean

923
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: I missed. I missed probably four or five cuts this

924
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: year on the number at like five, you know, four

925
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: plus underpart right. So, Um, it is. You're exactly right.

926
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: That is that is you know, knowing that if you don't,

927
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get to twenty, Um, then you're

928
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna get you know, you're gonna get laughed. You're not

929
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: gonna win there. There is definitely something behind that. That's

930
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: not typically the style of golf I really enjoyed playing.

931
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: I like the Hart are parts are good type golf courses, um,

932
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: where it really becomes like a ball striking context, right.

933
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: And and the reason the corn ferry, you know, corn

934
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: ferry scores are so low. I'll call it what it is,

935
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: is that you have courses that are you know, roughs

936
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: not quite as high as a PGA tour. Greens aren't

937
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: quite as firm. So it's not, you know, it's maybe

938
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: not as penalizing to someone that either hits it. You know,

939
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: it's hitting a five four iron in or hitting it

940
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: out of the rough. Right. So everyone has a lot

941
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: of looks at Bertie's and and you yeah, you do

942
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: need to learn how to shoot well and score well

943
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: on the corn ferry tour. But but there's I think

944
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: there's a mindset. You know, it's like you're playing a

945
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Monday qualified right, you go out and and if you

946
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: shoot seven under, you have a chance. If you don't,

947
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a chance, you know. And sometimes

948
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: you shoot seven under and you still don't have a chance, right.

949
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: So so it's just, you know, going out and knowing

950
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: you have to shoot low scores and doing it is just,

951
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: like I said, just building confidence knowing that you can

952
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: do it. So that big jump Um from the corn ferry.

953
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: You know the golf courses, the set ups are going

954
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: to be different moving into the season on the PGA tour.

955
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: You know that. You know that the courses that you're

956
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: going to play weekend, week out are going to be

957
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: vastly different than what they are um on the corn ferry.

958
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: What are you expecting? What are your expectations and and

959
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: and tell me some of your goals for this upcoming

960
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: season on the P G A tour. Yeah, I'm excited.

961
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited for, you know, playing a little bit, playing

962
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: courses that are set up a little tougher or, you know,

963
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: maybe your roughs up a little bit. A lot of

964
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: overseaed on the PGA tour. I've been fortunate enough to play,

965
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: I guess, five or six PG events now, um, kind

966
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: of seeing the gamut from the US Open too, you know,

967
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: I guess, Waste Management to a green brier kind of

968
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: playing in different locations in the country and Um, so

969
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: I know that the roughs, roughs typically up a little higher,

970
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: fairways are probably a little, you know, a little narrower

971
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: and greens typically are running a little quicker. So that's

972
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: great for me. I think that makes it even better.

973
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, hitting spots, controlling your distances are key out

974
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: there and I just want to go out, you know,

975
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: refine my process, get a little bit better driving the

976
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: ball and and see if we can, you know, see

977
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: if we can't do some real damage. I think we've

978
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: been you know, it's kind of been a long time

979
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: goal to be here. We're here now and I want

980
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: to compete against the best. I want to play trying

981
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: to play the best golf I can. So you're on

982
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: the PGA tour now. Um, you're going to be playing

983
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: with some of the best players on the planet. Um,

984
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, who are the players that you are excited

985
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: to be playing alongside of and who are some of

986
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: the players that you look up to and that you

987
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: now are going to have an opportunity to walk up

988
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: on a practice range to all the great players and say,

989
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: listen and Kyle, any chance that we could play a

990
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: practice them together? Who are the players that you're looking

991
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: forward to playing alongside of and and and trying to

992
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: get information from as you embark on your PGA Tour career? Yeah,

993
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: I always I always enjoy playing practic round with Gary Woodland.

994
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: He's been very nice to me in the past and

995
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: and been willing to play practice rounds with me. He's

996
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: he's great. He plays a similar style game and so,

997
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great it's a great person for

998
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: me to pick his brain on courses and see how

999
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of played in the past and he's willing

1000
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Right. So I also really enjoyed

1001
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: playing with Zack Johnson. Every every time I you know,

1002
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: every tournament I go to, I try to play nine

1003
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: holes of Zack. We couldn't play different games, more different games,

1004
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: but he's just, you know, such a great guy on

1005
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: and off the course. How he goes about professional golf

1006
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: and playing on golf's biggest stage and playing on the

1007
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: PGA tour, and you know just how how he how

1008
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: he does it. I I kind of I really look

1009
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: up to so play with him and uh, you know,

1010
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: probably a lot of my buddies that are coming out

1011
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: from the corn ferry tour right our our Tuesday birdie

1012
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: game just just went. You know, we increased the dollar

1013
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: figure on those, but but I look forward to playing

1014
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: with those guys. You know, it's it is a different stage. Um,

1015
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: guys have played the same courses over and over again

1016
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: for years, Um, but it's still golfs eighteen holes. You've

1017
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: got to make a game plan executed. Everyone knows how

1018
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: to build a golf you know the course strategy. But

1019
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I'll try to pick the brain of you know, Gary

1020
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: as much as as much as I can, and I

1021
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: know Dustin is not out there anymore, but I would

1022
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: have probably tried to tap him. He's been pretty quiet

1023
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: in the past. So Um, you know, I probably would

1024
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: have tried. I don't know if I you know, if

1025
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know I would have gotten through there. But

1026
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I just look forward to getting out there and meeting

1027
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys too. Are you excited, Um Kyle,

1028
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: about the opportunity to play some of these amazing golf

1029
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: courses that they play on the PGA tour that you've

1030
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: watched your entire life? You know there's some, you know, colonial,

1031
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: memorial Um, where they hold these these great tournaments. which

1032
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: courses are you really, really excited to get to and say, man,

1033
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting off tune to play a PGA tour event

1034
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: on this golf course? Yeah, I grew outside of for worst,

1035
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: so colonial is, you know, the top of the list.

1036
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: We've got some work to do to get there. Memorial

1037
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: is also top of the list just for you know,

1038
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: being the memorial Um, you know, Jack Mr Nicholas Tournament

1039
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: and just, you know, being able to play play there

1040
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: would be would be incredible. Um, Houston Open, you know,

1041
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to play in my hometown. Have never

1042
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: done it. You know, I haven't done it yet, but

1043
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: I just look forward to that. Look for I've never

1044
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: been out the pebble you know. Honestly, I'm excited to

1045
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: play every week that I can out here, Um, this fall.

1046
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: As you know, it is pretty important you go out

1047
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: and you try to, you know, do do well and

1048
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: reshuffle up up a little bit so you can get

1049
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: in some more tournaments. I'd love to play Tory. I

1050
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: mean right now I'm like a kidney candy store. You know,

1051
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: I just want to go and play them all and

1052
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I will say that Honda beat me up

1053
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: last year, so it beats everybody up. I'm looking forward to, UH,

1054
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: going back and getting a little redemption on it and seeing,

1055
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: you don't see if we can't do some more damage

1056
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: this year. But but, you know, I'm looking forward to

1057
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: all of it. I'm looking forward to, you know, enjoying

1058
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: these tournaments with my my family, my team. Um, I

1059
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be awesome. So, from a goal standpoint,

1060
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you and I were talking at this

1061
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: time next year, you know, at the start of the

1062
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: four season, Um, what would be a win for you

1063
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: this year? Um, what are the expectations? Are you somebody

1064
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: that sets realistic goals? Are you someone that sets unattainable

1065
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: goals to try? Because there's two ways to do it right.

1066
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: You can say, listen, I want to get to the

1067
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: top of Mount Everest and I'm just gonna start at

1068
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: the bottom and just keep climbing and I'm gonna Climb

1069
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: as hard as I can and if I get to

1070
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: the top, good, if I don't, well then I've given

1071
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: it my all. Or do you come from a different

1072
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: mindset and say, okay, I've got a bunch of different

1073
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: goals this year for the for the upcoming, you know,

1074
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: PGA tour season, and if, if you, if you have

1075
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: any of those? Would would you be willing to share

1076
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: any of those? Yeah, I typically, I typically hold hold

1077
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: my goals pretty pretty close, but I'm very much a

1078
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: guy that is like a one FT in front of

1079
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: the other. You know, I'm gonna IT'S A it's a

1080
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: process to get there, to get where I want to go.

1081
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: I set a goal and then I, you know, work

1082
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: those pillars back to that goal. Right, how are we

1083
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: going to get to that goal? And I really focus

1084
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: on the day to day how we're going to get

1085
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: there and then let that, you know, try to let

1086
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: that accomplish the end goal. But my end goal is

1087
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: to win. I'm not I'm thirty years old, I'm you know,

1088
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: we're getting to the PGA tour for the first time.

1089
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm here to try to win golf tournaments against the

1090
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: best in the world and and that's that's my goal

1091
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: and what we need to do to get there. You know,

1092
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: I think we've identified some areas that we can improve

1093
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: on and, uh, you know, if we're gonna try to

1094
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: push as hard as we can. Lastly, Um, you're a

1095
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: Puma gaw you wear the volition collection. The amazing work

1096
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: that Dan Rudy and the folds of honor have done. Um,

1097
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Gary Woodland is part of that as well. Um, that

1098
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: also makes you kind of feel like you're part of

1099
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: something as well, the work that Um folds of honor

1100
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: have done, the collaboration they've done with Puma. Um, when

1101
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: you wear that clothing. Um, you know, I'm a Puma

1102
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: guy as well. They send me volition stuff. I have

1103
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: no military background. I like the stuff. I'm I'm proud

1104
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: to wear it, but it must feel different for you

1105
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: to put on the folds of honor clothing from Puma,

1106
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: because you've actually I mean it's it has been your life. Yeah, yeah,

1107
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate to be able to wear where the

1108
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: Brand Puma and volition and together have been great. You know,

1109
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: they say dead. By definition, volition is your ability to

1110
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: choose and you know, choosing to build a team around you.

1111
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: That's very pro military. have been a part of the military.

1112
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: Supports the military. Is How we want to do it,

1113
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, we want to build our brand. That's that,

1114
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, coincides with our values and and that, you know,

1115
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: just having volition there and Puma backing as is an

1116
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: awesome opportunity for us and it gives back, you know,

1117
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: to families of lost or injured military members and support

1118
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: by supporting scholarships and you know, I think education is

1119
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: so important. Um, they provide so many great opportunities for

1120
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: people around the world and I just think, you know,

1121
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: folds of honor does a great job in folition, you know,

1122
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: in supporting folds of honors. Is An incredible brand you're making.

1123
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: You starting next week in Napa. I am Yes, we're

1124
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna get on a flight here in a couple of

1125
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: hours to go to a rookie orientation. There you go,

1126
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: but real quick before we go, a couple of fun

1127
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: facts here. I, uh, I actually grew up my my

1128
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: first place I started taking lessons that was a Dick

1129
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: Harmon School of golf in Houston under with art scarborough.

1130
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't know art. What Arts? One of the best. Yeah,

1131
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: so I grew up there and then somewhere in the

1132
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: butch harmon archives at Rio Saco there's Kyle Westmoreland golf swing.

1133
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: I spent about a day out there. We're playing an

1134
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: a J G aven an anthem. That's where my dad lives. Yeah, yeah,

1135
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: he was riding around in a off carton saw us

1136
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: and so we, uh, I saw three of us from Houston.

1137
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Started talking to us for a couple of holes. Realized

1138
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: we went to Dick Harmon and invite us out for

1139
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: a whole day. So I spent the day with him

1140
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: and Nick Wattney and he took some of my money

1141
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: on the putting green at the end of the day.

1142
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: But but it was but it was great. So somewhere

1143
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: of those archives is a pretty raw golf swing. You know,

1144
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: you walk into my dad's for for people that have

1145
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: never been out there. You Walk into that his facility

1146
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: out in Vegas. I worked there at the beginning. It's

1147
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: like a museum. I mean it really is, with all

1148
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: of the memorabilia. You walk into that big hitting bay

1149
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: that he has and you look at all of those

1150
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: tiger woods, Major's flags and all of the stuff. Um,

1151
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: if that doesn't I mean I've talked to you mentioned it.

1152
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: Players that get to the opportunity to work with my dad, Um,

1153
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: that get out there and go through that, it is

1154
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: such a motivating thing because you're walking in and you're

1155
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: you're just like man, this is this is like, this

1156
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: is like a museum. I mean it's like there's so

1157
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: much stuff. I'll make sure that I um that. I'm

1158
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: mentioned that to him when I talked to him this week.

1159
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Um, congratulations, you've you've you've had an amazing amount

1160
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: of success and I think everybody listening Um is going

1161
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: to be following you um this year on the PGA tour.

1162
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Best of luck. Stick to your guns, trying not to

1163
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: make any huge drastic changes. I see so many guys,

1164
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: kyle go out there, UM, if they don't have success

1165
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: early they say screw it, I'm just gonna start changing everything.

1166
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Change my coach, I'm gonna Change my caddie,

1167
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Change my equipment. Um, if I give you

1168
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: one piece of advice is Um, you know, uh, we

1169
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: were in at a tournament and one of the girls

1170
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: that I was teaching on the ladies tour, Marina Alex

1171
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: he was leading going into the final round. Um, I

1172
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: think it was in the first turn of the LPGA

1173
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: this year. Um, she didn't win, but I was with

1174
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: Dj and I said we we I videoed. I said, DJ,

1175
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: Give Marina one piece of advice going you're in the

1176
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: last group. Give her a piece of advice. And, you know, typical,

1177
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: Dj said, just remember all the stuff you did to

1178
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: get you into the last group. Just keep doing that. So, Um,

1179
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: best of luck. We'll be watching and, uh, congratulations on

1180
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: all your success. Thank you. I really appreciate you having me.

1181
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: And Uh Yeah, Go Air Force army, there you go.

1182
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Thanks all right. Thank you. So that was Kyle Westmoreland

1183
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: and really cool to talk to him and someone. As

1184
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I said in the interview, I'm I'm really excited to watch,

1185
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: UM listen to to make it from the corn ferry

1186
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: to get your PGA Tour Card. That's always a steep curve. Um,

1187
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: it's it's the show, it's you know, it's it's a

1188
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: step up. Um, you're playing against, you know, some of

1189
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: the best players in the world on, you know, one

1190
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: of the biggest stages in the world when it comes

1191
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: to professional golf and I think it's a dream of

1192
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: of everyone's to play when they start out, when you're

1193
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: in college, to play on the PGA tour. and Um,

1194
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I think kyle you know, his journey, how he's done

1195
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: it and I think his background. Um, I think he's

1196
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: going to be a success. Um. I think Um he

1197
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: has the type of game, he has, the distance he has,

1198
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: the length and Um, I think he has the background. Um,

1199
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: he's definitely not going to be out worked out there

1200
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: on tour. So really excited, glad he took the time

1201
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: to talk to us and excited to see, Um, how

1202
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: he does in the wrap around and how he does

1203
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: next year in three. So getting to questions, Um, obviously

1204
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: continue questions about live Um my thoughts on that and

1205
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: the whole PGA tour thing. But we've gotten a lot

1206
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: of questions about, Um, the fact that the lift schedule

1207
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: right now is maybe not as kind of condensed. Um,

1208
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: there's less tournaments, Um, and there seems to be a gap,

1209
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: more of a gap than on the PGA tour right now.

1210
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are asking me about, Um,

1211
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: the practice schedules for the guys, I mean certainly the

1212
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: guys I'm working with. Um. Anybody that thinks that professional

1213
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: athletes and professional golfers are not going to practice, Um,

1214
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't get that. Um. I just

1215
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: I fundamentally don't get this argument that if you're getting paid,

1216
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: if you've got guaranteed money, that you're just going to

1217
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: start phoning it in. We don't see that in any

1218
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: other sport. Um, we didn't. We don't see it when

1219
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: Lebron signs a big new contract, when Russell Wilson signs

1220
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: a new contracts not like Russell Wilson just he signs

1221
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: a huge new contract with a big chunk of it guaranteed, Um,

1222
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: as a quarterback in the NFL for the Denver broncos.

1223
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: And what I mean? Russell Wilson's just gonna tell that

1224
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: entire organization. Hey, guys, I just I don't need to

1225
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: practice now. I don't need to look at film. I'll

1226
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: make it to the Games on myself and I need

1227
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: to travel with the team. I'm just gonna do my

1228
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: own thing and I'll just show up for games. So

1229
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: if you think that any of the guys that have

1230
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: going to live aren't practicing in in the off season

1231
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: or in between, Um tournaments, you're crazy. Um, certainly none

1232
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: of the guys that I'm working with. Um, I think

1233
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: DJ's practice schedule, if I'm honest, is kind of ramped up. Um,

1234
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: he's doing the same things that he's been doing. Um,

1235
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: I think it's harder two. I think a lot of

1236
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: people look at players. You know there's four majors in

1237
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: the past for the for the live guys, that they

1238
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: would try and peak four. So even though they've got

1239
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: some time in between some of these tournaments. I mean DJ,

1240
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: he he gets a week off, but it's not like

1241
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: he's not going to practice. So his practice schedule is

1242
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: pretty much the same, um as I've seen it. If

1243
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: he's got a month off, okay, he'll take a week off,

1244
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: maybe two weeks off. But if guys on the PGA

1245
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: tour are going to take a month off, they're going

1246
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: to take a week off. Maybe two weeks off to

1247
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: spend time with their families, go on vacation and then

1248
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: come back to it. So I don't see that as

1249
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: a problem and, Um, I think we're going to continue

1250
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: to see great golf on all the tours. Um, see,

1251
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: what do we get? We uh, as a beginning Golfer,

1252
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: how many times should I get to the practice range? Listen,

1253
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: you get into the golf what you get out of it? So, Um,

1254
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: if you can get to the range, I think a

1255
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: lot of people, if you get the opportunity to practice,

1256
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play on the weekend, if you if

1257
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna play on Saturday, you're gonna play on Sunday,

1258
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: if you could get to the golf course. Not Everybody

1259
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: is a is a tour player to where you you

1260
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: can just practice all the time. So if you could

1261
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: find some time to get to the range, whether it's

1262
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: to chip, whether it's to put, whether it's to work

1263
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: on your full swing, whether it's to work on all

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Speaker 1: of it, Um, I think that would be a huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: Um win. I think it would help you um a

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Speaker 1: lot of times. Um, getting reps is just a good thing,

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Speaker 1: getting your body moving. Um, so you're not going to

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Speaker 1: the golf course called. If you don't have the availability

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Speaker 1: to do that during the week, try and get to

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Speaker 1: the range, you know, a couple of hours early, maybe

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Speaker 1: hit some balls, maybe just chip and pot. But the

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Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is just show up

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Speaker 1: to a golf course having played no golf, having practiced

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Speaker 1: no golf. Um. And you've got to practice, you've got

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Speaker 1: to put time in, Um to what you're doing. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's see which to Ur pro that you've taught has

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Speaker 1: the most natural golfing ability. Um. I think DJ has

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Speaker 1: got to be at the top of that list just

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Speaker 1: from a sheer athlete standpoint. Um, the things that he

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Speaker 1: can do in all the sports that I've seen him

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Speaker 1: play is is pretty phenomenal and there isn't really much

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Speaker 1: he can do or he can't do. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you gave him a surfboard, I guarantee you he can

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Speaker 1: figure out how to surf in a in a fairly

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Speaker 1: short period of time. So Um, I think that, Um, DJ,

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Speaker 1: from a natural talent standpoint, would be probably at the

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Speaker 1: top of that list for me for sure, out of

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Speaker 1: all the players I've worked with. Um. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: the guy's a freak athlete. He can do pretty much anything.

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Speaker 1: Um Can you talk about the low point in the

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Speaker 1: golf swing, how important it is and how it affects

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Speaker 1: the golf swing? So when we're talking about the low point,

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Speaker 1: it's something that we can measure now with launch monitors.

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Speaker 1: It's where the bottom of the golf club but where

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Speaker 1: the ARC is, where the ARC is bottoming out. So

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Speaker 1: if you think about what the best players in the

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Speaker 1: world do with their iron specifically, that low point is

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Speaker 1: going to be in front of the Golf Ball, not

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Speaker 1: behind the golf ball. So you're hitting the ball and

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Speaker 1: then you're hitting the ground in front of the Golf Ball.

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Speaker 1: If you ever have an opportunity to watch tour players

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Speaker 1: at golf balls, the divots are in front of the ball.

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Speaker 1: The divots are not behind the ball. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of players, in an effort to try and get their

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Speaker 1: irons into the air, they're going to have that low

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Speaker 1: point bottom out behind the golf ball. So as the

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Speaker 1: club is coming in, their weight shifts back. They're trying

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Speaker 1: to hit up on the golf ball with an iron

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna bottom out their arc behind the golf ball,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's something that I see on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis. If you are someone that that has that

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Speaker 1: problem to where you're you're hitting at a lot of

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Speaker 1: golf balls fat, you're hitting behind the ball, you're catching

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Speaker 1: a lot of golf balls thin. That is going to

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Speaker 1: show you that your low point is probably going to

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Speaker 1: be behind the golf ball and the best players in

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Speaker 1: the world, the best ball strikers in the world from

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Speaker 1: an iron standpoint, that low point is going to be

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Speaker 1: in unt of the Golf Ball. Um. I had a

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Speaker 1: question about shaft lean Um. Excessive shaft lean is that

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Speaker 1: something that you need to do to be a great

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Speaker 1: ball striker? I mean, obviously you could get the shaft

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Speaker 1: leaning too far forward an impact Um, but for the

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Speaker 1: majority of people listening to this podcast, if the club head,

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Speaker 1: if the if, when you think about where you are

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Speaker 1: at impact right, if you think about where you want

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Speaker 1: to be at impact, you're going to want to have

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Speaker 1: the shaft leaning forward. You'RE gonna want to have your

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Speaker 1: hands ahead of the Golf Ball, you're gonna want to

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Speaker 1: have that shaft leaning a little bit more forward. That's

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Speaker 1: a very easy way to start to clean up contact.

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Speaker 1: If you think about what you do when you're chipping

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Speaker 1: and pitching. The first thing that you do if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit a little bump and run pitch shot, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna put the golf ball back in your stance, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna open your stance a little, you're gonna put your

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Speaker 1: hands a little bit ahead and you're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: and keep your weight and put the majority of your

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Speaker 1: weight on your lead foot. If you ask yourself, I

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Speaker 1: mean everybody gets told to do that, but sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: important to ask yourself, okay, why am I being told

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Speaker 1: to do that? Well, because the swing is so small

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Speaker 1: and in a little pitch shot or a little chip

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Speaker 1: shot you're not making a massive weight transfer. You're not

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Speaker 1: turning behind the golf ball, you're not turning through the

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Speaker 1: golf ball. So what you're actually doing by playing the

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Speaker 1: golf ball a little bit further back, putting those hands forward,

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Speaker 1: leaning that shaft a little bit forward and keeping that

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Speaker 1: weight on that lead foot and then opening that stands

1350
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Speaker 1: a little, is you're basically trying to pre set your

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Speaker 1: impact position. So one of the ways if you're struggling

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Speaker 1: with quality of strikes, specifically with your irons, is go

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Speaker 1: back and forth between hitting a chip shot and then

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Speaker 1: hitting a full swing and ask yourself, okay, what do

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Speaker 1: I feel different in this swing? What do I feel

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Speaker 1: different in the chip shot where I have really good

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Speaker 1: quality of strike, really good contact? And then what am

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: I not feeling in my full swing? And again that's

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Speaker 1: going back to that previous question below point, if you're

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Speaker 1: hitting a chip shot, the low point is going to

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Speaker 1: be in front of the Golf Ball, not behind the

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Speaker 1: golf ball. And if you can go ahead, I mean

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Speaker 1: you can always find, you know, swings on Youtube and

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Speaker 1: go look at slow motion swings. They do a lot

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Speaker 1: of this and all the broadcast where they show people

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Speaker 1: at impact, the old Ben Hogan that moment of truth

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Speaker 1: where impact is that shaft is going to be leaning forward,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be catching the ball first and then

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Speaker 1: the turf in front of you. And if you can

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Speaker 1: get that feeling and get that concept, it's really, really

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Speaker 1: going to help you with your iron game. It's going

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Speaker 1: to help you with the quality of strike in your

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Speaker 1: shots are going to be hit better. So I want

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Speaker 1: to thank everyone for listening. If you haven't gone back

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Speaker 1: and listen to old episodes, please check them out and,

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Speaker 1: like I said last week, if you've got people that

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Speaker 1: are interested in golf. Um Tell them about the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll they'll listen to people maybe they haven't heard before,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they'll learn something that can help them with

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Speaker 1: their golf. Son of a which comes to you every Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: We will see everyone next week