Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Battery Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Saringa and we.
Speaker 1: Are here today with none other than Thomas and from
Speaker 1: Gen season. Thomas just here because they had a great
Speaker 1: connection and you're a very likable guy and someone that
Speaker 1: really stood out night one. So Thomas, welcome to Batchery
Speaker 1: Happy Hour.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Guys, I appreciate you all of course.
Speaker 1: Okay, so why don't you just tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about where you're from and what you do for
Speaker 1: a living.
Speaker 4: So I'm from Atlanta, just outside the city. I'm a
Speaker 4: retirement advisor. It's kind of like a broad title, but
Speaker 4: I help people figure out how they can get to
Speaker 4: retirement and have their money go for the rest of
Speaker 4: their lives. So, whether it's people in their twenties starting
Speaker 4: their roth iras or Nancy Sue that's sixty seven and
Speaker 4: working with Social Security and her pension, I.
Speaker 3: Do a little bit of everything in between.
Speaker 1: So wait, is that more of like, are you more
Speaker 1: of like a finance guy or is it like more
Speaker 1: like what do you want to do with the rest
Speaker 1: of your life type of thing?
Speaker 4: More so finance, we do like a lot of wealth
Speaker 4: management and financial sales stuff, so I get to work
Speaker 4: with people all over the country. That's why you see
Speaker 4: this awesome background is because I work from home, so
Speaker 4: I can bounce around from time zones to time zones
Speaker 4: to help people out.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: And where you're from Atlanta?
Speaker 4: You said, Yeah, I'm from Atlanta, just outside of the city.
Speaker 3: And where do you live? Do you live like in
Speaker 3: the d Tucker, Yeah, I live.
Speaker 4: So where I'm from where I grew up is in
Speaker 4: Gwinnett's and Snowville, a little city a little like thirty
Speaker 4: minutes away from the city. And then you got the
Speaker 4: main city where everyone knows, like the airport in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I live like right in between, like Shambley, Tucker. It's
Speaker 4: like northeast Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You know where where do? Where do we? Uh? Where's
Speaker 1: like the cool like the the newer spot with some
Speaker 1: of the restaurants and stuff.
Speaker 2: I have not a single clue.
Speaker 1: If you say it, I'll know it. Buford Highway No, No,
Speaker 1: Brookhaven No. You're probably like, it's just going to drive
Speaker 1: me nuts. There's a lot of restaurants popping up over there.
Speaker 2: And why did you know this?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's what it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like where do you hang out?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Where where do you hang out when you go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like so that that area is like old
Speaker 4: fourth Ward, Virginia Highlands and Men Park. That's like a
Speaker 4: pretty like hip and up and coming place right now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so definitely that spot.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Wow, look at you, Joe with your Atlanta knowledge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like Atlanta. I've been there. I've I've filmed the
Speaker 1: show there for a month and we couldn't leave the house,
Speaker 1: but I I was in. I've been to Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: want to say I've been to Atlanta five times.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1: There's always like a short period, but I've I've made
Speaker 1: I've made my time worth it. I've gone out a
Speaker 1: lot there.
Speaker 2: I've only been there twice.
Speaker 3: I went with let me know next time you guys
Speaker 3: come in.
Speaker 2: Yeah we will.
Speaker 5: Last time we were there actually was with Zach Shallcross,
Speaker 5: who was one of the last Bachelors. We filmed a
Speaker 5: podcast with him there, so that was fine. We spent
Speaker 5: like two days there.
Speaker 1: So Thomas, how uh, how did you get on The Bachelor?
Speaker 1: Why did you want to do this? Always call on
Speaker 1: the show The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: By the way, yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's actually a really funny story. So two years
Speaker 4: ago I went through like a pretty bad breakup. I know,
Speaker 4: I did like a year to kind of work on
Speaker 4: myself and really kind of get my feet under me,
Speaker 4: both with my finances. I had just bought in the house,
Speaker 4: so I wanted to kind of get my life in order.
Speaker 1: When you say that, when you say a bad breakup
Speaker 1: bad bad because of you or bad because of her
Speaker 1: or bad, I'm both ends.
Speaker 4: I'd probably say it was more so both ends. I
Speaker 4: wanted to get married and she didn't. So that's the
Speaker 4: part that was the hardest part was being like, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm here and her being like, hey, I'm not there.
Speaker 4: So that was that was hard for for for both
Speaker 4: of us.
Speaker 3: I took that.
Speaker 4: Time to kind of really just do my own thing,
Speaker 4: you know. And my sister she lives, she goes to Emory,
Speaker 4: so when she's home for holidays in the summer, she
Speaker 4: stays with me. So twenty one year old sister her,
Speaker 4: she's like, hey, Thomas, we got to get you back
Speaker 4: out there. So what better way than to apply you.
Speaker 4: So one night we popped open a bottle of rose
Speaker 4: and we just started going after it was that was
Speaker 4: last summer.
Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out to my little sister Lily.
Speaker 2: Wow, Lily, that's so good.
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of Joey's season hoping that it
Speaker 1: was going to be one of these girls.
Speaker 4: I did watch Joey's season. I did all of the
Speaker 4: bits coming into it. I think I came into it
Speaker 4: pretty open minded. I don't think anyone really had. Everyone
Speaker 4: kept telling me what you think is going to happen
Speaker 4: is not going to happen. So that's kind of like
Speaker 4: the idea that I came into the house thinking. So
Speaker 4: I was pretty open minded when I came into it.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's the best mentality to go into
Speaker 5: the show with, is just being open minded, because I
Speaker 5: feel like so many people go into it with a
Speaker 5: very clear set of expectations or feeling like they know
Speaker 5: exactly how filming goes or how the show works, and
Speaker 5: it just it's never you just don't know until you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I felt like I kind of had a
Speaker 4: like a leg up, if you will. My brother swam
Speaker 4: with Robbie Hayes. They went to college together. I think
Speaker 4: he was Jojoe.
Speaker 2: I was like Robbie Hayes was like that's a throwback name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so they swam together.
Speaker 4: I swam with Robbie's younger brothers, and so when this
Speaker 4: came up, I called Robbie and I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: what can I expect if he was like nothing, you
Speaker 4: don't expect anything to have No, don't go into it
Speaker 4: like thinking that you know something, because you're not going
Speaker 4: to know it.
Speaker 3: And so that was probably like the most useful a
Speaker 3: bit of advice that I got.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's interesting. That is actually very that's good advice.
Speaker 2: That is good advice. Nice job, well, Robbie, so correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Robbie, I believe went really far on JoJo's season of
Speaker 5: The Bouchtera and then was on he was yeah his
Speaker 5: runner up, right yeah, and then he was on Paradise
Speaker 5: I believe as well. So he's done two shows. He's
Speaker 5: a good part. And a call and say like, hey,
Speaker 5: what should I expect? So the fact that someone who's
Speaker 5: done two shows is like, don't expect anything.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how he came across on Paradise.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, it might have went a little got
Speaker 1: a little.
Speaker 2: Went a little sideways for Robbie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so in Paradise.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So let's talk about you're a competitive swimmer
Speaker 1: or you were a competitive swimmer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a competitive swimmer.
Speaker 4: I so all through college I swam, and then I
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to get dual citizenship. Both my parents
Speaker 4: are from Vietnam, and so the opportunity came up. And
Speaker 4: United States swimming is elite, it's very very good. So
Speaker 4: where in one event I was fortieth in the country
Speaker 4: in the US, I was the second in the country
Speaker 4: in Vietnam.
Speaker 3: So we had the opportunity to get dual citizenship.
Speaker 4: I tried to make the Olympics in twenty sixteen and
Speaker 4: then I had a partial tear in my left rotator
Speaker 4: cuff that I couldn't lift my arm and so I
Speaker 4: had to get a couple of quarter zone shots back
Speaker 4: to back to back to like try and make it
Speaker 4: through and then just barely miss.
Speaker 1: So when you swim for Vietnam, how how long are
Speaker 1: you over there for?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What does what does it? What does that look like?
Speaker 3: Several months?
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's the travel day is is more than
Speaker 4: a day itself. So when I went over there, it
Speaker 4: was like eighteen hours to soul A long layover and
Speaker 4: then from Soeul to Hochi Min city was nine hours,
Speaker 4: so it was just a brutal travel day. And then
Speaker 4: they recommend that you get over there a month before
Speaker 4: you compete, so they're thirty days early. The meet's usually
Speaker 4: five to seven days, and then whether or not you
Speaker 4: travel to different countries to compete or race or whatever
Speaker 4: you have to do in terms of obligations for the federation,
Speaker 4: they keep you there longer. So I was there for
Speaker 4: three stints for over three months each time.
Speaker 1: How beautiful is Vietnam?
Speaker 3: Stunning?
Speaker 4: Stunning, It's so awesome, that's what I've heard. Yeah, if
Speaker 4: your each cities are the best.
Speaker 1: Okay, So my brother's actually going, he's going on vacation.
Speaker 1: I think. I think like in the sound, Yeah, where
Speaker 1: would you for a tourist, where do you recommend? Like
Speaker 1: if you have you're going to be a Vietnam for
Speaker 1: seven days? Uh?
Speaker 3: Danang is a beach city. It's d A n A
Speaker 3: n g. It's a beach city. It is stunning.
Speaker 4: It's it's also pretty touristy as well, so you could
Speaker 4: get a by speaking English there pretty pretty comfortably. But
Speaker 4: the restaurants are awesome, it's like seafood. That's a big
Speaker 4: place to go because we went to a restaurant where
Speaker 4: you watch the boats bring the seafood to the restaurant
Speaker 4: and they would cook it right in front of you.
Speaker 3: So it's it's a it's a super cool spot.
Speaker 4: Ho Chi Min City is always a classic to go
Speaker 4: into like the big city spots, but if you want
Speaker 4: good food, go to the vendors just as much as
Speaker 4: the four star and five star restaurants.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're awesome.
Speaker 2: I want to go so bad, but we have an
Speaker 2: issue with you.
Speaker 5: I know, I have a net allergy, a really severe
Speaker 5: net allergy, So I'm okay with peanuts and almonds, but
Speaker 5: I'm like deathly allergic to like cashews, stashios, pinets, all those,
Speaker 5: And it just gets challenging, not all with going places
Speaker 5: that use a lot of meds language, but then the
Speaker 5: language bear on top of it. Like I would love
Speaker 5: to just go and eat all the food of the
Speaker 5: different vendors, but it just gets a little nerve racking.
Speaker 2: I I would risk.
Speaker 5: It, but then get nervous. Yeah, two epy beds on
Speaker 5: stand by a lot of gunna drill, but even and
Speaker 5: then like if something happens in a different country anyway.
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of elements that but who knows.
Speaker 5: But that's why we'll make it the avention, and that's why,
Speaker 5: you know, as much as you want to kind of
Speaker 5: have the most authentic experience, sometimes the truer spots are
Speaker 5: a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely find that balance of both exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's cut to night one. You step out
Speaker 1: of the limo. What's going through your head? How is
Speaker 1: the conversation with Jen?
Speaker 4: First I could like feel my heartbeat like in my throat,
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, don't trip the first thing
Speaker 4: my first step because I'm putting my jacket together, I'm
Speaker 4: looking at her and I'm like big deep breath.
Speaker 3: Walk up to her. And then she made it pretty easy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: She I'm a huge dad joke guy and puns all day.
Speaker 4: So the fact that she was like picking up what
Speaker 4: I was putting down it felt good. So it started
Speaker 4: to get easier after play, like the first fifteen or
Speaker 4: thirty seconds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she is very like warm and open energy, but
Speaker 5: you can tell she's just kind of like embracing the conversation.
Speaker 2: So I feel like that makes it a lot easier.
Speaker 1: Would you say jan is your type?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. She's, like you said, bubbly, warm, outgoing.
Speaker 4: I think I would consider myself an introvert, So I
Speaker 4: think that that balance is needed a lot of times
Speaker 4: in a relationship, one more outgoing than the other. And
Speaker 4: I think that that's probably more My type is someone
Speaker 4: that's a little bit more free flowing of a spirit
Speaker 4: than I am.
Speaker 1: You're not really given introvert.
Speaker 5: I believe you say that about every introvert, Yes, because
Speaker 5: I feel like you have a perception that introverts are
Speaker 5: like very very quiet and very very shy. But you know,
Speaker 5: like I am, I have a great personality, but you
Speaker 5: probably feel more comfortable like and enjoy your lone time.
Speaker 4: Right if I had my choice of going out to
Speaker 4: the club or sitting at home cuddling with my dog,
Speaker 4: watching through a network and at home all day?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you you get into the house,
Speaker 1: who are you vibing with? As far as the guys
Speaker 1: and anyone rubbing you the wrong way? What's that? How's
Speaker 1: that going?
Speaker 5: Were you you were early out of the you were
Speaker 5: pretty early out of the limma.
Speaker 4: Right, I think I was the fifth or sixth guy
Speaker 4: into the house, so I was early.
Speaker 2: That was me too.
Speaker 5: I think I was like the sixth person in, and
Speaker 5: I was so happy about it because it's absolutely a
Speaker 5: positive being the first one and I feel like it's
Speaker 5: a little jarring, but going in it's like a small
Speaker 5: group of people.
Speaker 2: You get to kind of meet people as are coming.
Speaker 2: Do you agree?
Speaker 3: One thousand percent?
Speaker 4: And another thing that I thought of was as well
Speaker 4: is when everyone comes into the room and they sit down,
Speaker 4: and then there obviously aren't enough seats for twenty five
Speaker 4: guys to be there, so the next group, like twenty one,
Speaker 4: twenty three, there's everyone sitting down, they're just sitting there,
Speaker 4: and the like.
Speaker 5: Yeah there's like two people standings comes in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was it was good. The first group
Speaker 4: of guys that were in there. I clicked it right
Speaker 4: away with Thomas. We both you know, like that Spider
Speaker 4: Man meme where you're like pointing at each other. We're
Speaker 4: like Thomas Thomas and so him and I we we
Speaker 4: connected pretty quickly. Sam m and I connected pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: He's from South Carolina, so we both kind of hit
Speaker 4: off on that that southern roots a little bit and
Speaker 4: then Aaron herb him. He was probably be another guy.
Speaker 4: My little brother serves in the military, and so I
Speaker 4: know Aaron does it as well. So that's kind of
Speaker 4: something that we kind of touched on as well.
Speaker 1: There's another Marcus was a military guy as well, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was an army ranger. Yeah, he does the
Speaker 4: exact same thing my my little brother went to school.
Speaker 1: For any of the guys kind of like rubbing you
Speaker 1: the wrong way or or any of the guys like
Speaker 1: kind of making waves within the house, not really.
Speaker 4: I kind of kept to myself, like, like I said,
Speaker 4: kind of an introvert. So the conversations, it was interesting,
Speaker 4: started off as like several groups of two or three,
Speaker 4: everyone off to their side, and then slowly as the
Speaker 4: night progressed, there was conversations with ten people, eleven people,
Speaker 4: twelve people, like the whole house having those conversations. There
Speaker 4: are definitely some big personalities, like Hakeem walking in with
Speaker 4: forty balloons attached to him. That's that's something you know,
Speaker 4: that's not my style. But to each their own. But
Speaker 4: there were definitely some big personalities in the house.
Speaker 1: For sure. Did the guy really streak completely naked or
Speaker 1: did he about the.
Speaker 4: War on I someone someone said that I wasn't I
Speaker 4: wasn't there for that.
Speaker 3: I Oh, someone told me no, I didn't get to
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 1: No, okay, it was a good thing. Yeah, probably. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then you get you get someone on one time
Speaker 1: with Jen, like where was that? Where was that within
Speaker 1: the night and how did that conversation go?
Speaker 4: It was kind of how I wanted to go, you know,
Speaker 4: I wanted to kind of hit that seventy five percent mark.
Speaker 4: So but most people will hit get early.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be one of three quarters to the
Speaker 3: end spot.
Speaker 4: So I was kind of towards the end, I got
Speaker 4: to have a pretty intimate conversation. It kind of got
Speaker 4: a little bit deeper than either of us I think
Speaker 4: wanted it to get to. We both can just kind
Speaker 4: of hit on our family traditions, our family history. Both
Speaker 4: of our mothers are immigrants. Both of our mothers basically
Speaker 4: gave up their life so that we could have a
Speaker 4: shot at one and that was something that both of
Speaker 4: us kind of we we got to that point in
Speaker 4: the conversation, We're like, Wow, this is this is more
Speaker 4: an intense first date, right, So I think that's kind
Speaker 4: of where we got to on the conversation just kind
Speaker 4: of led so effortlessly there do you think do.
Speaker 1: You think if if it was a first date, you
Speaker 1: would have gotten there?
Speaker 3: Probably not. I think that there are things that.
Speaker 4: I think that are things that are important to me
Speaker 4: that I value so so much, and my mom is
Speaker 4: definitely one of them. But I think sometimes you know,
Speaker 4: when you're getting to know someone you know, you start
Speaker 4: off as like the surface level stuff of like you know,
Speaker 4: what do you like to do? What are some of
Speaker 4: your hobbies? But I think that coming into it, I
Speaker 4: know I knew Jen's story, you know, watching Joey's season
Speaker 4: and watching how that's.
Speaker 3: Really important to her.
Speaker 4: It's important to me too, so I felt like it
Speaker 4: was easy for us to kind of get there that quickly.
Speaker 5: I would imagine too, because you are the only person
Speaker 5: that shares that experience with her, she probably gravitated towards
Speaker 5: you know, what you have in common? And because you
Speaker 5: guys have similar backgrounds and upbringings, it was probably just
Speaker 5: a natural direction for the conversation to go of like
Speaker 5: she's talking all these guys like trying to figure out,
Speaker 5: you know, what do I have in common?
Speaker 2: Where was a very easy one for you guys to
Speaker 2: connect on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, And it helps being the only other Vietnamese
Speaker 4: person in the house, so we both kind of I
Speaker 4: hit her with a little Vietnamese pickup line and she
Speaker 4: did a little giggle at it. I just told her
Speaker 4: that she looked very beautiful in Vietnamese, and she was, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeh yeah, was impressed with Hopefully she was impressed on
Speaker 4: my Vietnamese.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So after that conversation in your head, where do
Speaker 1: you are you like get like seventy five percent chance
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a rose.
Speaker 4: I wish it was seventy five percent. I was still
Speaker 4: I was still fifty to fifty. You know that that feeling,
Speaker 4: that feeling that I that I get to, you know
Speaker 4: when when you're standing there and like you can feel
Speaker 4: your heart pounding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was probably fifty fifty.
Speaker 4: There's just so many guys in that in the house,
Speaker 4: you know, so many good looking guys. Everyone's successful, everyone's
Speaker 4: peacocking uh in the house. So you know, I wanted
Speaker 4: to kind of keep it fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: Did you think though, that you maybe had a chance
Speaker 5: at the first impression Rose.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did think I had a chance with the
Speaker 4: first impression Rose just because of how intense the conversation was.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I was like, maybe it
Speaker 4: was too intense that she was like, whoa, this is
Speaker 4: something that I didn't want to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 3: Kind of where my head was with bof of that.
Speaker 1: Was there a guy in the house that was overly
Speaker 1: confident that he thought maybe he was going to get
Speaker 1: the first impression Rose?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think everyone.
Speaker 4: Kind of everyone was kind of flexing their muscles in
Speaker 4: a subtle way, you know, just kind of everyone in
Speaker 4: that house show came up as pretty confident, but I
Speaker 4: don't think anyone came off as super cocky right away.
Speaker 5: Okay, so Sam m ended up getting the first impression
Speaker 5: Rose was that were people surprised by it? Where people
Speaker 5: were like, oh, yeah, he's great, Like I could see it.
Speaker 2: What was the response amongst the group?
Speaker 4: There were a couple people There are a couple of
Speaker 4: people that said that it was just because you grabbed
Speaker 4: her first. You know, some people wanted to say Sam,
Speaker 4: she did her toast and Sam grabbed her. And that's
Speaker 4: what stood out to Jen was someone to make an
Speaker 4: effort early and Sam was the first person that grabbed her.
Speaker 4: So that's what some of the people were thinking. As
Speaker 4: I've gotten to know Sam, you know, especially here in
Speaker 4: the first the first night, it was he carries a
Speaker 4: lot of the same values that I carry, you know,
Speaker 4: he carries that same passion that I carry, and so
Speaker 4: I get it. So if I think that I could
Speaker 4: have gotten the first impression Rose, he definitely could have
Speaker 4: as well, just because of the things that I see
Speaker 4: in him.
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense, That does make sense. I feel like.
Speaker 5: I feel like the way that you are describing me,
Speaker 5: it of like, yeah, I had a really good conversation
Speaker 5: with her and we share similar values, so I could
Speaker 5: understand kind of maybe the alignment is usually the thought
Speaker 5: process of someone who has like a good, easy connection
Speaker 5: right out of the gate, and I feel like people
Speaker 5: that are usually grasping it like oh, well he pulled
Speaker 5: her first. Is maybe an inclination of like, oh, maybe
Speaker 5: the connection's not there yet with it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you can, you can.
Speaker 4: Maybe those people were not there after the first night
Speaker 4: and the ones that we're saying that, so, yeah, it
Speaker 4: definitely makes sense.
Speaker 1: Was there anyone that you were shocked that went home
Speaker 1: night one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. So Ricky was was one of the guys
Speaker 4: that a lot louder than most of the other guys,
Speaker 4: you know, super confident. You know, he kind of walked
Speaker 4: the walk and talked to talk. He kind of everyone
Speaker 4: liked him, you know. He was a guy that I
Speaker 4: was drawn to as well. A lot of the guys
Speaker 4: really were drawn to him, and so to see him
Speaker 4: go night one was definitely shocking. And then I'd probably
Speaker 4: say Brett was the other one. He is awesome, you know,
Speaker 4: just a big band, big personality to match it, and
Speaker 4: so I was shocked with him as well.
Speaker 3: He did the little Truth or Dare.
Speaker 5: We were shocked by him too. We were really really
Speaker 5: surprised he went home night one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so his his little what is that Dare
Speaker 4: show You're hidden talent? He clears the room out and
Speaker 4: then drops it down into a full on split in
Speaker 4: his suit.
Speaker 3: Was that was one of the ones where I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: I've got this guy's got Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was yeah.
Speaker 5: It was like it was like a montage of what
Speaker 5: was happening at the Truth or there. And I think
Speaker 5: we literally just saw everyone like him drop the split
Speaker 5: in his pan, Like I think I split my parents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was awesome, he was Saw was shocked that
Speaker 4: he went home as well.
Speaker 1: So how was your first rose ceremony everything you thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be or a much longer experience
Speaker 1: than you picture.
Speaker 4: So getting ready for the rose ceremony was nerve wracking.
Speaker 4: We all just stood there in silence, basically like waiting
Speaker 4: for it to get started. And then I'll never forget
Speaker 4: the feeling of pre rose and after rows of of
Speaker 4: kind of how my body was feeling, I could feel
Speaker 4: like one hundred and eighty bpms of like my heart pounding,
Speaker 4: and then when I got my rose, it was from
Speaker 4: one eighty to eighty and two seconds, So it felt
Speaker 4: pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes that's actually very true, the tension that
Speaker 5: you hold in your body at those things and they're
Speaker 5: so long and you're so tired. Yeah, it's a crucial
Speaker 5: part of the journey.
Speaker 1: So then Jim drops she drops it at the end
Speaker 1: of this episode that you guys are going to Australia.
Speaker 1: What's the mood?
Speaker 3: Then that had to be awesome, amazing, amazing. It's it's
Speaker 3: like bucket list stuff, right.
Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, you don't really ever think, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go to Australia just for fun. So the fact that
Speaker 4: we all got to go on night one was was awesome.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 4: I think not a single guy had ever been to
Speaker 4: Australia in the cast, so it was it was.
Speaker 2: Cool the way that is so cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: That was cool. What was the because it was you
Speaker 1: guys are not at the mansion, what was the house? When?
Speaker 1: What was the house? Like, uh, it was in the
Speaker 1: front of the front the front of it looked like breath.
Speaker 2: Takes the house like beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was stunning.
Speaker 4: It was huge, and there was a lot of the
Speaker 4: outside back yard space was probably like the coolest spot.
Speaker 4: It was just a little cold, but they had like
Speaker 4: a couple of bonfires set up for us to kind
Speaker 4: of all go out there. The backyard was I think
Speaker 4: was the best part because it was like two x
Speaker 4: of what the front yard was, you know, when we
Speaker 4: walk out a limit, it was like breathtaking in the
Speaker 4: backyard as well. A couple a couple of the pavilions
Speaker 4: with like bonfires for us to kind of get set
Speaker 4: up at.
Speaker 3: It was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool. So you mentioned you were in a serious relationship
Speaker 1: that ended kind of badly. But since the end of
Speaker 1: that relationship, how long has it been from today or
Speaker 1: from night one?
Speaker 2: Was the timeline?
Speaker 1: Timeline?
Speaker 2: Yeah, between night one and the relationship ending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, then death then it come across No.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I was thinking two years or a little
Speaker 3: bit under two years.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then how within that two years were you
Speaker 1: dating or what was dating life?
Speaker 3: Like? No? Not really.
Speaker 4: I did a year where I was not really dating,
Speaker 4: just working and kind of doing my thing here, hanging
Speaker 4: out with friends. Like I said, everyone in my life,
Speaker 4: everyone that's important to me is married with kids.
Speaker 3: So my two thirty two okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so my two of my best friends, I've known
Speaker 4: them since I was twelve, so I've watched them and
Speaker 4: their families grow. And so when I get the opportunity,
Speaker 4: it's uncle Thomas here, Uncle Thomas there. Both my brothers
Speaker 4: are married, well actually a younger brother is married. My
Speaker 4: older brother gets married, so we're going out to South America.
Speaker 4: So both of them are in long term relationships. My
Speaker 4: best friends are in long term relationships. So when I'm
Speaker 4: I'm bored, I just bounce around to be Uncle Thomas.
Speaker 1: Yes. See, single life, single life is way more difficult
Speaker 1: when all your friends are in relationships one thousand percent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So what was kind of your mentality then, Like,
Speaker 5: going on this show, you were out of this yeriously
Speaker 5: hadn't been dating obviously that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 2: What mindset did you go in with?
Speaker 4: I think a piece of advice that I got from
Speaker 4: my mom was really helpful.
Speaker 1: You didn't say Robbie again.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, no, no, this is this
Speaker 3: is what good it was? It was It got me,
Speaker 3: It got me there.
Speaker 4: She said, people that you love and people that you
Speaker 4: care about are going to watch you, and the person
Speaker 4: that you end up with, you don't want them to
Speaker 4: think that you're someone that you're not. So if you
Speaker 4: put on this facade for however long you put it on,
Speaker 4: and then you get to the real world and she's like,
Speaker 4: this is not you. Or if people watch you and
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, that's not you, that's going to be
Speaker 4: a harder thing to fix in the real world. And
Speaker 4: so I came into it thinking, hey, I'm just going
Speaker 4: to be unapologetically authentic, stand on what I believe in,
Speaker 4: and put myself out there to be vulnerable and show
Speaker 4: Jen who I really am. As a person, and if
Speaker 4: she picks it up, that's awesome, and if she doesn't,
Speaker 4: then hopefully there's someone else that's out there for me.
Speaker 2: That's great advice.
Speaker 5: That was always my My biggest fear of potentially meeting
Speaker 5: someone on the show was leaving the show and being.
Speaker 1: Like, this is a different person.
Speaker 2: That's not who I thought I was dating.
Speaker 1: And that I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna wake up one day. Joe's gonna drop the facade.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be horrible. Yeah, it's a lot harder to
Speaker 5: correct down the line than it is to just be
Speaker 5: upfront and true to yourself despite the fact that you're
Speaker 5: being vulnerable for the world to see.
Speaker 1: Did you prepare yourself or even think about the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, going on a show like The Bachelorette is
Speaker 1: dating in an unconventional way, and you are potentially going
Speaker 1: to fall in love with somebody who's dating multiple men
Speaker 1: at the same time and catching feelings for multiple people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is a once in a lifetime
Speaker 4: opportunity and it's a spot where no one's ever been
Speaker 4: in this spot before. But like before, I if if
Speaker 4: we were meant to be and if at the end
Speaker 4: of the road, you know she picks me, then I'd
Speaker 4: hope that you know, our connection was stronger than anyone else's,
Speaker 4: and that she's not just playing me or playing any
Speaker 4: other person, and that like what they say, that you're
Speaker 4: here for the right reasons, and so I was there
Speaker 4: for the right reasons.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's I don't know. I don't know. No, No,
Speaker 1: I believe you.
Speaker 3: I believe you.
Speaker 1: I believe you're fucking lying, Thomas. I just I know,
Speaker 1: like myself, especially when I went on the show, I
Speaker 1: want to say, I I feel the same way you do.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how I would have handled it.
Speaker 1: I do think. I do think it is tough.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it only gets harder as it goes on, too and.
Speaker 1: Like like being the best true that ends up with
Speaker 1: the lead and then watching it back, there's just no
Speaker 1: way that's easy.
Speaker 2: No, there's yeah, one hundred percent not.
Speaker 5: I mean I never had to do that, thankfully, But
Speaker 5: it's definitely bittersweet being like, oh, I've ended up with
Speaker 5: this person and we're so happy and in love and
Speaker 5: now we get to watch our love story along with
Speaker 5: his love story with twenty six other way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What was your take?
Speaker 5: On the drama between Brian and Jeremy. You know, obviously,
Speaker 5: Jeremy came out in this very fancy car, him and
Speaker 5: Jenn are having time talking in it, and then we
Speaker 5: see Brian come out of the house with the keys
Speaker 5: to the car.
Speaker 2: Essentially kicks Jeremy out of his own car.
Speaker 1: Well what wait, was it Jeremy's car?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Joe and I were debating, was do you
Speaker 5: know if it was you know, a prop car or
Speaker 5: if it was actually Jeremy's car that he drives at home.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't there for that either, so I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell you about that.
Speaker 4: But I've heard the drama when they both came into
Speaker 4: the house, but I didn't get to see him take
Speaker 4: the keys or go out.
Speaker 3: In his car.
Speaker 2: So what did what did you overhear? What did we overhear?
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. What did you overhear?
Speaker 4: A lot of people their personalities are completely opposite. I
Speaker 4: think Jeremy is a really really quiet, you know, kind
Speaker 4: of behind the scenes guy, and and Brian is definitely not.
Speaker 4: So that I think it kind of made sense of
Speaker 4: how those two kind of interacted. It was, Yeah, Brian,
Speaker 4: Brian's is a big personality as well.
Speaker 1: So he was one of the he was one of
Speaker 1: the louder.
Speaker 5: Also, I just pulled up Jeremy's details and he's from
Speaker 5: New York, So there's no way that they shipped his actual.
Speaker 2: Cart al shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say definitely not.
Speaker 1: Probably not, But it's fun to think it was.
Speaker 2: It's fun to think it was his real car.
Speaker 5: So would you say that the house skewed more towards
Speaker 5: Jeremy's side than Brian's side in that interaction?
Speaker 3: I definitely think so. Jeremy was.
Speaker 4: Jeremy's always been super quiet, you know, just kind of calm, cool,
Speaker 4: collected behind the scenes, and he didn't really.
Speaker 2: That's funny, kind of a show.
Speaker 1: His limit entrance is it like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: His limo interest is more like hey Jesse. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. As I got to know him, it was kind
Speaker 3: of the opposite. So that's interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that happens sometimes sometimes people go a little
Speaker 5: all out for the entrance and it doesn't always totally
Speaker 5: align with who they.
Speaker 1: Are at their Poor Thomas, We're going to play a
Speaker 1: quick game, a little rapid fire, get to know you
Speaker 1: a little better, all right. You want to do it.
Speaker 1: You want me to do it, I'll do it. You
Speaker 1: haven't done rapid Fire in a while.
Speaker 2: No, I've really been getting out of it. Joe's been
Speaker 2: handling rapid Fire. It's very easy.
Speaker 5: All fun, chill questions starting off with what is your
Speaker 5: go to comfort movie or show?
Speaker 3: Comfort movie? I'm gonna nerd out a little bit go
Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings series.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen Lord of the Rings, which is crazy
Speaker 5: because I feel like I've seen all the other like major,
Speaker 5: I love Lord of the Rings. Yeah, if you could
Speaker 5: have any superpower, what would it be?
Speaker 3: Flying? But I'm scared of heights. But yeah, flying just
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 2: Probably why because you wouldn't be as scared if you
Speaker 2: could fly?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 3: Sorry by Justin Bieber?
Speaker 2: A classic? What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
Speaker 3: Cookie?
Speaker 2: Dough cats or dogs?
Speaker 3: Dogs? Come on?
Speaker 2: What's your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, somewhere on the beach or bora.
Speaker 2: What's the best concert you've ever been to?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna say hang out like a concert at
Speaker 4: outdoor venue on the beach, music all around.
Speaker 3: Pretty sweet spot. What is it called Hangout Festival? Where
Speaker 3: is where is this golf Shores, Alabama.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like a music festival.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like it's literally two polar opposite stages
Speaker 4: like on the beach.
Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: That's really cool. What's your favorite way to spend a
Speaker 2: day off?
Speaker 4: Work out, play fetch with the dogs in the back,
Speaker 4: and then cook myself from meal?
Speaker 1: Wow? You you're just You're just the whole Mark movie town.
Speaker 3: I love cooking.
Speaker 4: I love I love I love cooking. I'll tell you
Speaker 4: guys a quick little cliff notes. Both my parents were
Speaker 4: fostered when they came to the United States, and their
Speaker 4: parents are Italian and Irish, So I grew up like
Speaker 4: in an Italian household where my my no one have
Speaker 4: taught us like all these recipes and we were growing up.
Speaker 4: So we're a huge food family growing up.
Speaker 1: Wow. Like, what's your go to? What's your go to
Speaker 1: dish that you cook?
Speaker 3: Carbonara? That's my go to?
Speaker 5: Really Okay, yeah, that's a good way, all right. What
Speaker 5: is the most adventurous thing you've ever done?
Speaker 3: Cliff diving?
Speaker 4: You know, we went out to a place in Italy
Speaker 4: they took us out to this year. Cliff you climb
Speaker 4: up like a couple of dozens of feet and then
Speaker 4: jump off of it.
Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: That's so cool. I've done cliff jumping before. But there
Speaker 5: is a point that you pass where you're like, okay, like,
Speaker 5: if I do something wrong, I'm going to really be
Speaker 5: in a lot.
Speaker 3: Of pay Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: And you're when your hands and feet like wiggle for
Speaker 4: just a little bit too long. That's when you know
Speaker 4: you're a little bit too high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Okay. What is one food that you can't stand?
Speaker 3: Tomatoes?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like on burgers. I can't do no cold
Speaker 4: tomatoes on sandwiches.
Speaker 2: Will you do tomato sauce?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Will you do? Catch up?
Speaker 4: Just just no cold tomatoes on like a cold tomato
Speaker 4: on a burger.
Speaker 2: I'm disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't. I don't totally disagree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: It depends kind of like tomatoes on my hot dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's weird to me. What musician would you love
Speaker 5: to see live?
Speaker 3: Chris stapleson.
Speaker 2: Favorite season.
Speaker 3: Summer? Definitely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: And if you could describe this season of the Bachelor
Speaker 5: in one word, what would it be?
Speaker 3: Spicy?
Speaker 2: Spicy?
Speaker 1: I like that, all right, Thomas, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on. We can't wait to watch the rest
Speaker 1: of you on this season. And to all our listeners,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: And if you need any retirement advice, you know who
Speaker 5: to reach out to Thomas and he will prepare you
Speaker 5: for your future financially.
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all.
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