1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into North Side Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm Sahadev Charma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic and Patrick, 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the Cubs are moving on to the NLDS. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: That was a hell of a game. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: It was tense to the final out, and the fans 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: were into it from the first pitch. That was a 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: fun environment. We said it before, like these are fun 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: environments to be a part of, and you could tell 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a fun one because from pitch 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: one they were on their feet and getting into it. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: A three pitch strikeout to get the game going and 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 1: they were roaring. And then the celebration afterwards, that's you know, 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: it's been a while since we've well, I guess, you know, 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: the clincher that you know to get into the playoffs, 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: but I wasn't there for that one, so it had 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: been a while. 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: It's been a long. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Time since they've celebrated at Wrigley Field. Those are always exciting. 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: It's just you know, kind of the hard work paying 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: off for all these guys watching them celebrated, and you know, 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: it's just a good environment to be around, and now 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: they head to Milwaukee. But that was that was a 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: that was a wild series in the sense that one 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: of those series where it felt like it could have 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: gone either way and it just kind of like went 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the Cub's way, and Cubs fans kind of sigh have 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: a sigh of relief there. 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: I think that added to the celebration, and you and 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: I were I think we're in the clubhouse before we 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: went back out onto the field, and I think a 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: Cubs person was like, I did not need that ninth inning, 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: and we were so busy writing all these elements of 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: our takeaways, and then the Brewers preview and you look up, 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: it's like, whoa, they were one swing away from just 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: absolutely killing the vibes at Wrigley Field, but that didn't happen. 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: So I think that sigh of relief was part of it, 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: and also organizationally within the fan base. I don't want 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: to say Cubs fans were spoiled because they went more 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: than a century without a World Series title, but fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: those NLCS trips, I think the franchise sort of took it. 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 4: For granted, and. 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: After waiting several years, to get back to a moment 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: like this. You can see the looks on people's faces, 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: the intensity in which they're pouring sparkling wine and beers 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: on each other. That moment meant a lot to a 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: lot of people in that locker room and the forty 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: thousand fans in the stands, and I think you can 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: interpret that clinching game in that context as well. Of 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: just there was a lot of nervous energy throughout the week, 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: and then the Cubs putting pressure on the padres and 52 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: getting you Darvish on the ropes really allowed the game 53 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: to play out in almost an ideal scenario for the Cubs. 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: It probably liked a couple more runs the ninth inning, 55 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: they didn't need that, But overall, it's kind of how 56 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: you script it. 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they pitched so well, they played brilliant defense. 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I just cannot emphasize enough how important that was all series. 59 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: I think it goes unnoticed. Almost it didn't go unnoticed. 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: People noticed Dansby Swanson and Nico Horner this series, but 61 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: just to you have to understand it, fewer base runners, 62 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: fewer pitches, it saves a team. I don't know how 63 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: different that that series is with a lesser defensive shortstop 64 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: or center fielder or second basement. 65 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: It's just a different series. 66 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Cubs are advancing without their defense. 67 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: Mike Shult said it. Mike Shult said after the game, 68 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: you know they don't. Yeah, they don't hand out MVPs 69 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: for the wild Card round. But Dansby Swanson was the 70 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Cub's MVP. I think he was zero for four with 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: three strikeouts in Game three, it didn't matter. He saved 72 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: that game in so many different ways. He makes these 73 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: plays look simple. They're not always spectacular, but he gets 74 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: the job done. Just just really big defense all around 75 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: and kind of allowed everything to kind of happen the 76 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: way Craig Council wanted it to, the way Tommy Hotteby 77 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: hoped it would so they could execute their pitching plan. 78 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: I believe Dansby said something along the lines of we 79 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: make outs outs, and sometimes it is, you know, the 80 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: the eye catching play of the over the shoulder catch 81 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: and shalla centerfield, and sometimes it is just what you're saying, 82 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: those sort of in between hops hit to one side 83 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: or the other and Dansby just smoothly collects it, throws 84 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: right on the money to first base that's an out, 85 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: or it's the double plays that get turned like all 86 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: of that. 87 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: It is a cumulative effect. 88 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: And you're right, I wrote it in the preview and 89 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: I'm guilty of this, like you just kind of take 90 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: it for granted, like the ball hit to short you 91 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: just start writing like six three or six four three 92 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: like it's not But those are not always automatic. And 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: then the playoffs, when the margins are so small, when 94 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: it's these compressed series, you have to convert, and the 95 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: Cubs did over and over again. 96 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Daniel Palentia was brilliant again. 97 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: Uh I just I did not expect him to be 98 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: unleashed in the way that he was. 99 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: But his you know, the. 100 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: Minor shoulder issue that it turned out to be was 101 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: probably a blessing in disguise in the sense that he 102 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: got two weeks off, he's fresh. 103 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: They can they don't. 104 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be the closer, he doesn't have 105 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: to feel like Craig Council can do that without uh 106 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: can remove him from that role without it being like 107 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: this big issue. And and now he's this weapon in 108 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: the postseason that's just like, Okay, this guy, you know 109 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: you you add him to what they have with Keller, Kittridge, 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Pomerants and Theobar. 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: It's a formidable it's a formidable. 112 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Group and and it it proved to be just a huge, 113 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: huge piece of the puzzle, uh on uh, you know, 114 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: for three games and and we'll see, we'll see how 115 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: they unleash the group in the post I mean in 116 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: the in the NLDS and beyond if they make it, 117 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: because you have to use it slightly differently. 118 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: Uh. And it was all set up. 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: By by Jameson Tyne. Who is are who we're gonna 120 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: put under the draft Gings player spotlight, all right, Patrick 121 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Jameson Tyne not going to be the guy that gets 122 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: all the headlines, not someone that yeah, he doesn't he 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, he's not the ace of the staff. He's 124 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: a little unheralded and he even knows it and he's 125 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: fine with it. He's a team leader, he he It 126 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: was just like four innings of arguably some of the 127 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: best stuff he's had. And he said it after that 128 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: after that strikeout, he's never heard a ballpark that loud before, 129 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and and it was it was fun to watch him. 130 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: His change up is new for this season. Kick change. 131 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: It was nasty, his sweeper struggled at the beginning of 132 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: the season. It was back Jamison. 133 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Tyne is just a huge piece of this puzzle, and 134 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: he set everything up to work on Thursday night, Thursday evening, whatever. 135 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: It was. 136 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: Very symbolic of how this team was. 137 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: Built and how it forged an identity of Jameson Tyne's 138 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: free agent. The Cubs are in this in between stage, 139 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: remember the Cubs signing him, and people from other organizations 140 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: at that winter meetings to use, you know, the scouting 141 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: parlance is like this guy's eighty makeup or this guy's 142 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: a ten, just in terms of how he conducts himself, 143 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: how he helps out other pitchers, how he maintains a 144 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: sense of calm and professionalism. We've seen that it's not 145 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: always glamorous, but for people in that room, that is 146 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: very much appreciated. So I think having a moment like 147 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: that was was sort of fitting for Tyne, who remembered 148 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: coming up with the Padres at a time when the 149 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: Cubs were the team in Major League Baseball, you know, 150 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: thinking back to kind of fifteen sixteen seventeen. I mean 151 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: Tyone remembered seeing what Brigley was like. I mean he 152 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: talked to Anthony Rizzo before signing with the Cubs. There 153 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: were teammates in New York and yeah, when you readjust 154 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: your expectations for the playoffs, to have your starter do that, 155 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: it's amazing. And you saw how rattled the Padres were yesterday, 156 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: and you Darvish, we talked about him on the prior episode, 157 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: just a fantastic career, one of the most interesting people 158 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: you know, we've covered, but he. 159 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: Just hasn't had it recently. 160 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: And you know, his postseason track record for a lot 161 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: of reasons is a little little spotty there. And you 162 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: could just tell the Padres were all of a sudden 163 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 3: out of their element, whereas the Cubs were just very, 164 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: very orderly and had it play out, you know, exactly 165 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: as they mapped it out. 166 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have The Padres didn't have the same 167 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: bullpen they had on Wednesday. They just couldn't They couldn't 168 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: do it the same way. Darvish didn't go deep enough, Darbish, 169 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: didn't pitch well enough. And you know, great career, Hall 170 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: of fame, borderline hall of fame career probably, and I 171 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, a ton of respect for the guy, but 172 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: he didn't like I just had a feeling the Cubs 173 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: could get to him. 174 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: The Cubs probably should have put a lot more runs 175 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: on the board. 176 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: And that's that's you know, it's part of playoff baseball. 177 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: It's part of baseball in general. Sometimes the hits aren't 178 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna come in the big situations. But they did a 179 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: good job on offense. They need to come up with 180 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: the big hits more often. We can talk about that 181 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: next segment, but I just you know, I think it's 182 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: important that show what would you know, talk about what 183 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: James and Tyne did. Uh, He's going to be needed 184 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: for more going forward. All these guys are. It's not 185 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: going to be four innings going forward unless something goes wrong, 186 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: because it's a this was a different series. How to 187 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Be said it. Council said it. You're trying to win 188 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: two games. You do whatever you can. And that lineup 189 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: kind of set it up perfectly. The lineup construction of 190 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: the padres with that pocket of three lefties, that's a 191 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: perfect time you pull your right handed starter and go 192 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: to your lefty that you trust. 193 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: It's set up well. It worked to perfection. 194 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Uh. Credit to council, credit to how to Be, and 195 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: credit to the pitchers. For for doing their jobs. I mean, 196 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Keller made it interesting there in the ninth the ump 197 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: gave him a call. That's that's that's part of baseball 198 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: as well, and at least at least for now and 199 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: and uh and and you know, Kittridge came in and 200 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: cleaned up, cleaned it up and sent them to the 201 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: n LDS. 202 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: It was. 203 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: It was a It was one of those nights that 204 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: you know it maybe not like the National Series, maybe 205 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: not maybe a touch less intense, but that this was. 206 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: This was a fun one. This was a fun series. 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: Now let's head it. 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Rivalry is ramped up 245 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: right now the Cubs want My guess is both teams 246 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: wanted this in a sense like want to face each other. 247 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Certainly the Cubs wanted this. I don't you know. I 248 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: don't have a great feeling. 249 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: I still haven't decided what I'm picking here, but this 250 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: is it's gonna be fun. 251 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: These are evenly matched teams. 252 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: The Brewers do it in a way that's not as 253 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: exciting and maybe not as traditional or as effective in 254 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs because they don't have the sluggers. They don't 255 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: have guys that hit home runs, so a lot of 256 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: people are going to be picking against the Brewers. The 257 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Cubs have sluggers. But the Brewers and the Cubs do 258 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: this too. They play great defense, they have a good bullpen, 259 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: they have really good base running, they have you know, 260 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: defined characteristics they look for. 261 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: This is who this team is. You know who they are. Uh, 262 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: and they're tremendously good. They're not, They're not. 263 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: They didn't sneak into the playoffs. They have the best 264 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: record in baseball. They're they're a really good team, and 265 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: they they're they have a chance to make a World 266 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: Series run. The Cubs don't want that to happen. And 267 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I think this is like and then I'm bearing the 268 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: lead here. Craig Council returns to Milwaukee once again, now 269 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: for the postseason. Uh, this is this is gonna be 270 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: a fun one. 271 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: I can't wait for that moment when they show Craig's 272 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: face up on the board and just everyone starts booing. 273 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: I will imagine, I will say that, I'd imagine there'll 274 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: be a fair amount of Cubs fans there, but still 275 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: it'll be deafening just to hear the reaction. And it's 276 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: always funny to watch Counsel's reactions to this. I think 277 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: part of him gets a kick out of it. Just 278 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: I think that's how he's sort of coped with this. 279 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: You know, him and his family very Midwestern kind of 280 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: it is ironic that someone who grew up a couple 281 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: miles from this stadium, and whose dad worked for the Brewers, 282 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: and who gave a lot of himself to build that 283 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: small market team into something a lot more, is you know, 284 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: vilified where he still lives. I mean, just just all 285 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: of it is going to be great. Theater that comes 286 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Cardinals series. I felt more like kind of historic, of 287 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: just kind of how the Cardinals had really just you know, 288 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: dominated and set a stand for a while. This is 289 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: just I think a lot more personal and kind of 290 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: in your face. 291 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 292 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be easy, but I mean there's 293 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: no reason for the Cubs to be like intimidated at 294 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: all about this. And I also think, you know, one 295 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: of the things to watch will be here of the 296 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: Cubs survived a really tough series against the Padres. They 297 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: faced some great pitchers and they advanced. And the Brewers 298 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: have been sitting at home for a while now. They 299 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 3: will go almost a full week in between games, and 300 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: even those games they were playing at the end of 301 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 3: September were sort of meaningless. I believe they clinched the 302 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: division on September twenty first, So you're talking about that juice, 303 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: that edge that you need every single day as a 304 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: major league players. It's hard to just flip that on 305 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: and off. And you know, we'll see if that plays 306 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: a factor. I think you've seen in previous postseasons the 307 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: teams that get bounced early. I think I want to 308 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: say the Braves a couple of years ago, maybe even 309 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: the Phillies last year. Of Like the Phillies when they 310 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: made that World Series run, wasn't it kind of like 311 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: all right? They were in an elimination mode like right away, 312 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: and they carried it. 313 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: We'll see rest versus rust how that plays out. 314 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard to to really measure that in 315 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: any way and and understand that because it's not it's 316 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: not some number, uh, And you just don't know how 317 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: it's going to impact them until you see the games unfold. 318 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: And then we're also just projecting. I don't know, I like, 319 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: did they just did the did the other team just 320 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: pitch really well? Or were those hitters cold? I would 321 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: say this, the Cubs bats were a little rusty entering 322 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: that series against the Padres that I think that had 323 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: to do with the Padres. Like I said yesterday or 324 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: whenever we recorded last, I said this, I thought those 325 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: first two matchups with the starters were just bad, bad, 326 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: bad for the Cubs. Nasty pictures with the stuff that 327 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: they have and the like up in the zone, breaking balls, 328 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: they just really hard. I mean, you can scratch a 329 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: few across you missed the like they did. 330 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: They did. 331 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: They gotten up in Game one, but Peralta's the only 332 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: one that is like intimidating like that. I don't want 333 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: to discount these pictures. I'm not saying that the Cubs 334 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: are gonna tee off on them, but that's the only 335 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: guy where it's like, oh, this guy is nasty stuff. 336 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: This guy is, you know, a cy Young caliber pitcher. 337 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: You could say the same about the Cubs, though you 338 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: could say the same thing about the Cubs. I just 339 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: think Tucker looked so much better the final few at 340 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: bats a Game two, and then obviously in Game three, 341 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: PCA all. 342 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: About confidence guy. 343 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, you get him feeling good and he had 344 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: some hard hit balls that what did you end up 345 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: with two or three hits? I think getting that yeah, yeah, 346 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: And you know, even even Halp who was really struggling 347 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: that series ended with a nice double there. 348 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: I believe. 349 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: There were some good signs for the offense. I think 350 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: they didn't break out fully with the runs. Thirteen hits 351 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: is a big deal in my mind. Michael Bush ended 352 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: the season on a tear. I think he had really 353 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: good at bats all series long against the Padres. Here's 354 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: my I was thinking about this on the drive home. 355 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't I think I'm taking the Cubs in this series. 356 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: And this is my random prediction. There will be one 357 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: game that the Cubs score more runs in that game 358 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: than they did the tirety of the Padres series. Uh 359 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: so that's six six runs they're gonna score. There's gonna 360 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: be a game where they score seven or more. I 361 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: just I think the bats, uh, they're they're just better matchups. 362 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: The bullpen is good for the Breweries. Not great like 363 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: previous years, but there's some good arms in there, just 364 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: not as intimidating of starters, and in the playoffs that matters. 365 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: And the offense for the Brewers is good. 366 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: They do a lot of things well and maybe they 367 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: get hot at the right time. 368 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: Baseball is weird. 369 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's this is gonna be a cake 370 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: walk but I think the Cubs come out on top, 371 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: and I think they score. 372 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: Some runs this series. Uh, and they have enough pitching. 373 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm curious who who Council goes. 374 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: With Tomorrow Saturday, and it's probably, like I'm in my head, 375 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm leaning aside, but maybe it's Colin Ray. 376 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: He's been so good to end the season. 377 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: And basically Wednesday was like his side session, you know, 378 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: his bullpen day. 379 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, i mean Colin Ray is someone who was left 380 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: off of Milwaukee's postseason roster last year. I'm sure he's 381 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: he's similar to Council and that he's pretty self contained, 382 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, somewhat dry, monotone, but a very sharp observer, 383 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: you know, whenever you get to talk to him, And 384 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure he would love that opportunity. 385 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: You're right. 386 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: I was looking back the game by games we were there. 387 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 3: Cubs did break out with a couple put some big 388 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: numbers on the board against the Brewers in a couple 389 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: of games. I want to say they outscored the Brewers 390 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 3: like sixty to fifty six on the season, but there 391 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: might have been like two games there where they scored 392 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: ten runs a piece something like that. And yeah, I 393 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: mean we had a little bit of a taste of 394 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: this with that five games and four days at Wrigley 395 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: when the when the Brewers just kind of staved off 396 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: the Cubs and maintained control of the division race. So 397 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: a lot of familiarity, a lot of tension, and I 398 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: feel like we're due for one of those wacky games, 399 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: Like every playoff game can't be three to one, three nothing, right, Yeah, 400 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: some thing's going to happen, especially in a place like 401 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: I was about to call it Miller Park American Family Field, 402 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: And thinking of all those back and forth games we've seen, 403 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: they're always scrambling to rewrite. I think Justin Steele described 404 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 3: one of those games as like that game was drunk 405 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, and it was a. 406 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: Very apt description. And I'm sure that's what we'll be 407 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: walking into here this weekend. 408 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see. 409 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious who council starts. The Brewers are 410 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: down brandon Woodriff, not sure if they know they don't there. 411 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking of another team there. I think that's 412 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: their main injury, their biggest injury. And then we'll get 413 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: hopefully some sort of update on Kate Horton. I'm guessing 414 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: he's not coming back. He's not going to come back 415 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: for Game five. That's the earliest he can come back. 416 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: The best case scenario, and we you know, we'll spend 417 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: more time on this the more information we get. The 418 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: best case scenario, in my mind, as he comes back 419 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: for the NLCS, if the Cubs get that far. So 420 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: we can think about that later. But it's something we 421 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: need to get more information. 422 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: On and we can. 423 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: We'll update you guys as soon as we have that information. 424 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this series. This type of stuff 425 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: is fun. The Cardinals series in fifteen was fun. This 426 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: is going to be intense. There's no doubt that Brewers 427 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: fans are going to be into it. I think there's 428 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: going to be a decent amount of Cubs fans. I 429 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of text from friends last night already 430 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: tickets purchase. That's pretty cool. And you know, Wrigley we'll 431 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: be rocking on Wednesday? 432 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: Is that right? 433 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday? I think it's going to be a lot of fun. 434 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm excited to cover it, uh excited to bring you 435 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: all more information and more podcasts here. 436 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: We'll we'll have at least a couple. 437 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: More as far as h as far as this season goes, 438 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: as far as talking about games, uh and and hopefully 439 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot more because it's been a fun run and 440 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: this team has been fun to cover. I've enjoyed it. 441 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: So we'll see how far they. 442 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: Can take it. 443 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: And and this like, there's nothing better than rivals in 444 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: the postseason. You know, you just saw Yankees Red Sox. 445 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I think Cubbs Brewers is pretty has gotten in my 446 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: in my mind watching the games. Maybe it's just as 447 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: simple as they're two good teams. It's overtaking Cubs Cardinals. 448 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: But you know, history wise, obviously it's not there, but 449 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: it just feels like with the council stuff, and and 450 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, these teams won two in the division. It's 451 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: pretty intense and there's no love loss there. It's it's 452 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's a fun matchup. So we'll see what happens. 453 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: Patrick will be back at it. I don't know what 454 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: are recording schedule will be like, but we'll be what. 455 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: Day is today, I don't even know what day it is, 456 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: just you know, you're in that postseason house. 457 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my house right now and it's a 458 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: disaster because I've barely been here. So maybe I'll clean 459 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: up a little before heading to Milwaukee, but we'll worry 460 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: about that in the off season. All right, everyone, thanks 461 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: so much for listening. This is north Side Territory. 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