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Speaker 7: Now, let's start out as Jack Nicholson.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, there's a lot we don't know right now

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Speaker 7: up with NFL dot Com Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah for

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Speaker 10: A year ago, when we spoke with you Cardinals with

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Speaker 11: Position in the draft.

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Speaker 10: Now at sixteen, what position do you call it?

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Speaker 12: The sweet spot? Yeah, you're in the sweet spot. You

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Speaker 12: is it's odd, it's weird. I will tell you, like

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Speaker 12: I picked up back in Baltimore a million years ago.

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Speaker 12: There's a grade that's like a Pro Bowl player grade,

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Speaker 12: so you know that what you're saying, there's a high

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Speaker 12: In last year's draft, I think there was maybe eighteen

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Speaker 11: This year there's like seven.

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Speaker 12: But you are in a deep defensive draft, especially along

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Speaker 11: Get a really really solid player right there.

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Speaker 13: That is music to the ears of Cardinals fans.

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Speaker 2: Defense Go figure, huh, Yes.

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Speaker 13: I mean on the defensive line and on the edge,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, defensive tackles as deep as I can ever remember.

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Speaker 11: I don't ever remember seeing a group this deep.

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Speaker 12: You know, last year I had twelve players that I thought,

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Speaker 11: Edge rusher wise.

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Speaker 12: It's a great debate to have, and I'm sure they're

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Speaker 12: going to have it within the walls of the building

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Speaker 12: know that's going to be a classic kind of debate

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Speaker 12: But I do know they're going to have an option

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Speaker 10: Because of that depth, could you see a team, whether

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Speaker 10: say at sixteen for the Cardinals, and didn't take that

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Speaker 12: On, Well, I would say I would use the lesson

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Speaker 11: With taking two.

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Speaker 12: You want to go shopping for a dtackle in the

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Speaker 12: first round, swing around, take another one in the fourth round,

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Speaker 12: Go do it.

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Speaker 11: I don't think you have to pick.

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Speaker 12: I think you can say that's where the strength of

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Speaker 12: there's so many of them. I can avoid one here

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Speaker 12: There's a team that just won the Super Bowl that

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Speaker 12: I think there's that there's some real value and going

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Speaker 10: Are there the defensive tackles that you have the twenty

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Speaker 11: Are they similar?

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Speaker 10: Are there certain styles depending on what defensive you might

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Speaker 11: Yeah, oh, all different flavors.

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Speaker 12: But I would say there's more like there's more three

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Speaker 11: This draft I don't remember.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we have so many three hundred and ten,

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Speaker 13: Cardinals have a handful of pending free agents, starting on

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Speaker 12: I don't think that there's the premier guys, which is

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Speaker 12: not going to matter where it's sixteen, they would be

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Speaker 11: Offensive tackle wise, I think it's a little.

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Speaker 10: Is this where, all of a sudden, maybe this draft

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what it is. It's a meat and potatoes draft.

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Speaker 12: It's a draft where you're finding starters, not stars, and

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Speaker 11: That's where you're gonna find guys.

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Speaker 12: And to me, I look at differently from the offensive

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Speaker 12: You don't want to have, as I refer to him

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Speaker 11: And I think we have those guys.

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Speaker 12: So it's kind of a floor offensive line draft, and

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Speaker 7: Tomorrow is going to be Charles Davis. We're going to

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Speaker 7: edition of The Big Red rage Are Combine Edition presented

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Speaker 7: by Santan Ford in Gilbert. What stood out to you

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Speaker 7: the most there on all those different topics and all

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Speaker 7: the insights from Daniel Jeremiah, just.

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Speaker 1: All of the line of scrimmage Bully for the most part,

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Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. Right now, I can't get over at

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Speaker 1: Bully because the blood sport is back in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's no longer a situation where the spread has taken over.

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about this. It has come

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Speaker 1: back to the game of football once again. Think about

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Speaker 1: the emphasis that is now placed on a running back

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Speaker 7: You know, you don't go to a steakhouse in order

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Speaker 7: the tofu right. So if this draft is just utterly

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Speaker 7: why don't you just double up at sixteen and forty seven?

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Speaker 7: Maybe you go D line? To your point, because the

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Speaker 7: as Maniasiford told the media this week, you want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm with you on that, Paul, seriously. And once again,

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Speaker 1: Now, can you overpay for a certain guy? Of course

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Speaker 1: You can actually watch him. And there's a huge body

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Speaker 1: and I think it's because they're just not as hungry

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Speaker 1: as they once were. Offensive linemen, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: are built a little bit differently, and I like looking

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Speaker 1: at NFL offensive linemen blocking NFL defensive linemen. I like

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Speaker 1: looking at that. Now when it comes to the draft,

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Speaker 1: I like looking at college prospects on the defensive line

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Speaker 1: more than the offensive line, because I think you've got

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Speaker 1: to project with the offensive line more. You got to

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Speaker 1: project with a young guy as to whether or not

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Speaker 1: he's going to make the mental adjustment to being an

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the NFL. And it's not as easy

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Speaker 1: as you may think.

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Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of these insiders in these draft

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Speaker 7: analysts and the experts at the combine this week. Compare

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Speaker 7: the potential of this D line draft class to twenty

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Speaker 7: nineteen when Nick Bosa went, Quinn Williams, Christian Wilkins, Jeffrey Simmons,

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Speaker 7: Brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence, and the Cardinals even got Zach

451
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Speaker 7: Allen in round three. So if it's that sort of draft,

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Speaker 7: I think then the question becomes, you know, a Kenneth

453
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Speaker 7: Grant from Michigan, right, all the measurables, but what's the

454
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Speaker 7: motor like Shamar Stewart, Crazy measurables and athleticism. But where's

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Speaker 7: the production. How do you weigh that? Well, if the

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Speaker 7: potential and the measurables versus that production in college?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, once again, it is a production, Paul,

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Speaker 1: that is it. I mean a projection, not a production.

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Speaker 1: It is a projection. And because of that, you really

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Speaker 1: don't know so much of this, Polly comes down to

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Speaker 1: the individual himself. And that's the reason why the interviews

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Speaker 1: are huge at the Combine.

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Speaker 7: I heard it said, in fact, it was field Yates

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Speaker 7: earlier today on ESPN. This is a great draft for

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Speaker 7: front offices that know what they're doing. Interesting. We'll get

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Speaker 7: more insights from Charles Davis. He's with Cardinals cover two

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Speaker 7: when we come back. In this edition Combine edition of

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Speaker 7: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: Shot gunna snap Murray to throw a fade right side

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Speaker 4: of the end zone. I'm the money to Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown.

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Speaker 4: What a throw by Murray. That's his fourth touchdown pass,

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Speaker 4: tying a career high.

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Speaker 5: You can see that coming a mile away, Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 5: Junior one on one against the corner, and he went

476
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Speaker 5: ahead and ran the fade and sure enough, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 5: put it out there, and Marvin Harrison Junior went and got.

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Speaker 4: It Tex Fitz and let him know that Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 4: Junior just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches,

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Speaker 4: tying him with Ankwon, Bolden and Larry for most touchdown

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Speaker 4: catches by a rookie and Team Histery.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good company right there.

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Speaker 7: No doubt, I mean the numbers were there yet. I

484
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Speaker 7: think anybody who watched Cardinals football in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 7: there is serious upside still in store from Arvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 7: Agree or disagree with that.

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Speaker 2: Ron Wolflinck, no doubt about it, Bully.

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Speaker 7: It is a big Red rage Our Combine edition presented

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Speaker 7: by santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan Ford. We're

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Speaker 7: gonna hear from Charles Davis. CBS analysts always look forward

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Speaker 7: to that, but Wolfe was interesting to hear. Jonathan Gannon

492
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Speaker 7: at the podium is fifteen minutes with the media this week,

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Speaker 7: bring up on his own Trey Benson and at what

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Speaker 7: sort of leap he thinks Trey Benson is going to

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Speaker 7: take from his first to his second year. If I

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Speaker 7: gave you a choice, between Marvin Harrison Junior, Trey Benson,

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Speaker 7: Max Melton, who I thought had a really strong finish

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Speaker 7: to his rookie year, and Isaiah Adams, who we know

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Speaker 7: puts some good stuff on film and has been in

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Speaker 7: the weight room basically every single day since the end

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Speaker 7: of last season. If you had to pick one of

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Speaker 7: those guys to really excel from year one to year two,

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Speaker 7: who do you think is going to take the biggest step,

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Speaker 7: the biggest leap.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Polly, I'm gonna go with Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: But you know I'm in the danger zone when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Marvin Harrison Junior. I just this guy. Expectation

508
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Speaker 1: for him was so incredibly high coming in as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: It was really something that I think was inappropriate. I

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Speaker 1: should not have had that type of expectation put on

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Speaker 1: a rookie coming in trying to be wide receiver one,

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Speaker 1: and I reject myself in front of King and country

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Speaker 1: for actually doing it. But I do believe in what

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Speaker 1: is going to happen next year. The fact that you've

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Speaker 1: got Manti asin Fort and JG who believe that a

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Speaker 1: rookie comes in and his growth from year one to

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Speaker 1: year two is going to be significant. They believe that

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Speaker 1: that is dogma and if it doesn't appear, if you

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Speaker 1: don't have that growth, then you know what you might

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Speaker 1: be moved off of. I think with Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 1: of course, being selected as high as he is, there's

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Speaker 1: no way in the world they'd ever move off no

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Speaker 1: matter what happens next year or this coming season. But

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Speaker 1: I can tell you right now that because of the

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Speaker 1: workout that he has and because of the talent that

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Speaker 1: he has, those two things are going to come together.

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Speaker 1: He cares about his job. I don't think there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a bigger improvement from any rookie to year

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Speaker 1: two than Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, he's competitive. When you see him

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Speaker 7: on the field, you do realize how competitive he is.

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Speaker 7: So when he sees Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas juniors,

533
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Speaker 7: the two all rookie wide receivers, I'm thinking, I'm thinking

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Speaker 7: that's motivating, that's going to fuel him this offseason. But

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Speaker 7: I'm with you, guiltiest charge. A year ago at this time,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, oh boy, you take Marvin Harrison Junior number four,

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Speaker 7: just pencil him in Jamar Chase rookie season, Justin Jefferson

538
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Speaker 7: rookie season, Pro Bowl campaigns. And it's not always that easy,

539
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Speaker 7: it's not always that quick getting that sort of success

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. No one knows that better than Charles Davis, right,

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Speaker 7: CBS analyst and draft guru. And there he was in

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Speaker 7: Indianapolis and joining Cardinals. Cover two are Craig Rielou and

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Speaker 7: Danny Serek with Charles Davis.

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Speaker 10: You got free agency, got the drafts, yep. So for you,

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Speaker 10: your analyst had on. When you see the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 10: coming up in twenty twenty five, what do you want

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Speaker 10: to see?

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Speaker 2: I wrote some notes down.

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Speaker 9: I hope that's okay, perfect.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Defensively, who's your wreckord that's going to go? Get a quarterback?

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Speaker 9: Can you get an edge guy? Know bj Ojalari? Can

553
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Speaker 9: he come back from injury? But you know that's like

554
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Speaker 9: coming back from knees oftentimes it's the second year and

555
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Speaker 9: not the first year. But can you have those people

556
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Speaker 9: who can put into pressure? I wrote down edge, I

557
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 9: wrote down interior defensive line continue to get better and stronger. There,

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Speaker 9: wide receiver, continue to supplement around. I think there'll be

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Speaker 9: a breakout for Marvin Harrison, I really do. I think

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Speaker 9: he's going to continue to go. I thought Michael Wilson

561
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Speaker 9: had a nice year last year, offensive front, offensive guard,

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Speaker 9: offensive tackle. I think they've done a nice job and

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Speaker 9: it seems to me they like big people, right. That

564
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Speaker 9: seems to be where they want to go with this,

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Speaker 9: with how they want to run the football with James

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Speaker 9: Connor and crew, I think this is a draft that

567
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Speaker 9: has a lot of big offensive linemen in it that

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Speaker 9: they can plug in and go and listen. I don't

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Speaker 9: mind playing the young offensive lineman. I think a lot

570
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Speaker 9: of people worry about that. Sometimes it can bite you.

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Speaker 9: Kansas City struggled because they drafted Kingsley's so Ma Tayya

572
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Speaker 9: out of BYU in the second round, hoping he would

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Speaker 9: be their left tackle. Didn't happen, and you guys know

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Speaker 9: what happened from there, because Joe Toney is at all

575
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Speaker 9: Pro guard, he's not an all Pro tackle, and it

576
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Speaker 9: killed him.

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Speaker 2: In the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 13: A bright spot for the Cardinals defense was the secondary,

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Speaker 13: especially that back half of the season, and you got

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Speaker 13: to see it now. Cardinals defense was some of the

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Speaker 13: best in keeping opponents out of the end zone. A

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Speaker 13: league low ten passing touchdowns allot on the last eleven games.

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Speaker 13: A lot of young faces though in that group, especially

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Speaker 13: in the cornerbacks room. What positives did you see from

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Speaker 13: that room specifically for the Cardinals for the future and

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Speaker 13: what that's going to look like.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you saw the growth, You saw the stature. Sighting

588
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Speaker 9: gives you a lot more confidence of what's going on

589
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Speaker 9: back there. I think that they can walk into that

590
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Speaker 9: room now and realize we are not just Buddha Baker

591
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Speaker 9: and a bunch of other people. And I think with

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Speaker 9: Nick Rollis's way of playing, they're able to make plays,

593
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Speaker 9: be quicker to the football, see it in front of them,

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Speaker 9: and do it. And I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 9: their improvement's going to be. And I can't wait to

596
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Speaker 9: see what competition many Austin for it brings in for

597
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Speaker 9: him too, because he's not gonna stand.

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Speaker 10: Pat When you look at the Cardinals wide receivers. You

599
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Speaker 10: brought Marvin, you brought Michael Wilson, What are you seeing

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Speaker 10: from them that gives you belief that, Okay, there's something there?

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Speaker 10: Because as a defensive back, they make it difficult for

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Speaker 10: me to defend two things.

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Speaker 9: Size post catch, I gotta go through this big body,

604
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Speaker 9: strong physically Harrison Wilson. And then when they do catch it,

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Speaker 9: I gotta get them on the ground. If I don't

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Speaker 9: get him on the ground, I got a problem. That's

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Speaker 9: the key. But that's why, that's what I see with

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Speaker 9: these receivers. And obviously Trade McBride is your ultimate example,

609
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Speaker 9: even though he's a tight end. But I'm counting the

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Speaker 9: tight ends with receivers more and more of these days.

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Speaker 7: It's funny that reminds me the great quote from Ben

612
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Speaker 7: Steele not too long ago, the tight Ends coach about

613
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Speaker 7: Trey McBride in the entire tight end room, if you

614
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Speaker 7: don't block, then you're just a slow receiver, which is

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Speaker 7: one of our favorites right there, and Trey McBride the

616
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Speaker 7: complete tight end. Something you've been on about Charles Davis

617
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Speaker 7: there from the combine with Danny Surak and Craig Grielou.

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Speaker 7: You can catch the whole entire interview starting on Friday,

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Speaker 7: Cardinals cover two. All right, Wolf, just general takeaways from

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Speaker 7: what you heard there from NFL Networking CBS analyst Charles Davis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that right there where you said defensively,

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Speaker 1: who's your wrecker. Who is that guy? And there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams out there that do whether he's

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Speaker 1: on the edge or he's an interior defensive lineman, a

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Speaker 1: three technique or a combination thereof Right there? Who is

626
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Speaker 1: the wrecker for the Arizona Cardinals. Now listen, Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 1: He could possibly be that wrecker at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: but he's got to prove that he is that guy.

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Speaker 1: Pj Ojalai you heard him actually acknowledge him. Yeah, you

630
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Speaker 1: know what this guy could promising, but once again, a

631
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Speaker 1: young guy that's got to prove it. I thought immediately

632
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Speaker 1: of Kenneth Grant and Mason Grant. I thought of those

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Speaker 1: two guys specifically three techniques defensive tackles in interior defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman from Michigan. Those two guys, Kenneth Grant and Mason Graham.

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Speaker 1: I really really love their play. And I think Kenneth

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Speaker 1: Grant in particular, a guy that I know might have

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Speaker 1: some questions from time to time, but he's a big dude.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: He's three hundred and forty two pounds. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people say he doesn't have the motor that you'd like

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Speaker 1: to see. But for me, watching what I've seen of

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Grant and what I've read on him. That guy

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Speaker 1: right there, I'll take him and I'll plug him in immediately.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, if there's a couple of things

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Speaker 7: we've learned about mante Ossiborne, Jonathan gannon A. They only

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Speaker 7: want players who are deadly serious about football and be

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Speaker 7: for the most part, they believe it's a big man's game. Yes,

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Speaker 7: and we've seen those two shall we say tenants in

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Speaker 7: each and every draft pick virtually is that's how they

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Speaker 7: screen guys, and when given the option, they will go

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Speaker 7: that direction, will they not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they will definitely do that. Paully can I

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Speaker 1: also say this. I loved his comment on I don't

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Speaker 1: mind playing young offensive linemen that I agree with, but

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Speaker 1: the Paris Johnson juniors man, that is the exception to me. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 1: it's the exception.

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Speaker 2: And not the rule.

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Speaker 1: For the most part. It's what I was talking about

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Speaker 1: in regard to free agency. I like offensive linemen who

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Speaker 1: have played in the league. I like looking at them

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Speaker 1: up against NFL defensive lineman not just in one game,

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Speaker 1: not just in ten games, but in three years of

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Speaker 1: watching this guy play against that caliber of a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: I think it gives you a better footing as to

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Speaker 1: what he could actually do when it comes to projecting

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Speaker 1: a player into your offense and the kind of production

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Speaker 1: you might be able to get out of him. I think,

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Speaker 1: once again, offensive lineman making that transition into the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it typically takes them a couple of years, just like

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Speaker 1: Paris Johnson Junior. I think it's taken him a couple

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Speaker 1: of years right now. But I like free agents. That's

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Speaker 1: what I like in terms of offensive lineman. But I

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Speaker 1: like the fact that Charles said he didn't mind taking

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Speaker 1: a young offensive lineman.

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Speaker 7: And if it isn't Tyler Booker out of Alabama at

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Speaker 7: number sixteen, and a lot of mock drafts have Miami

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Speaker 7: the Dolphin snagging him at thirteen, then there's at least

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Speaker 7: three other offensive guards I was looking that might make

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Speaker 7: sense if you trade down in the first round or

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Speaker 7: perhaps at number forty seven in round two. So I

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Speaker 7: wouldn't be shocked if that's the direction the Cardinals go.

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Speaker 7: Is interesting. Darius Robinson came up there, and Jonathan Gannon

683
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Speaker 7: at the combine this week said he was never totally

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Speaker 7: healthy the entire season. Yeah, and you know what, he

685
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Speaker 7: was never off the injury part all year. So what

686
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Speaker 7: does that mean for year two for d Rob And

687
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Speaker 7: then when it comes to defensive linemen and edge rushers

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Speaker 7: in particular, I have the quote in front of me

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Speaker 7: JG talking in the media. He said, you know what,

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Speaker 7: being disruptive in the passing game, that's the first thing

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Speaker 7: I look for. And when you look at our defense,

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Speaker 7: hit zoom out. JG saying that's the way we can

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Speaker 7: improve is to disrupt the quarterback a little bit better

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Speaker 7: than we did last year. Said that's how we take

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Speaker 7: the next step. He called it as a defense, and

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Speaker 7: then he said, acquisition is a way you could help that,

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Speaker 7: whether it's free agency or the draft, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, for me, Paulie, once again, what's the next

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Speaker 1: step for the Arizona Cardinals For me? Be able to

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Speaker 1: rush for and drop seven. You've heard me talk about

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Speaker 1: this before in the past, Pauli, but it's so critical

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Speaker 1: and I think you saw it in Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: nine as well. The ability to be able to rush

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Speaker 1: for and get pressure on a quarterback and drop seven

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Speaker 1: and the impact that it truly has on that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If you can get to that point, man, you are

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Speaker 1: way ahead of the game right now. And Nick Rowlis

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Speaker 1: did a great job scheming up pressures for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Doing a great job with that.

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Speaker 1: But man, I want to see this team get to

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Speaker 1: a point where they have four guys that they can

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Speaker 1: line up and rush the passer and drop seven. But

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Speaker 1: that starts, Paul with having one guy that you can

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Speaker 1: really count on to do that, and then you get

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Speaker 1: to and.

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Speaker 2: Then move on.

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Speaker 7: You're absolutely right. I mean, how often did Nick Rowless

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Speaker 7: last year play mad scientists?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we called it eleven card pickup where you

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Speaker 7: didn't know who was playing what position. That was out

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Speaker 7: of necessity in a lot of times. So what if

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Speaker 7: you can just rush for and drop seven? The possibilities

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Speaker 7: agency what that might mean for the Cardinals less than

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Speaker 7: Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: Give to cook up the middle and he's tackled at

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage by Mac Wilson making his Cardinal debut,

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Speaker 4: gets a tackle for a loss.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 5: Mack Wolson Senior shot the gap and made the play.

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Speaker 2: Ron played of the right.

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Speaker 4: Cook wrapped up and dropped in the backfield by Wilson.

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Speaker 5: Incredible job by mack Wilson Senior coming from the.

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Speaker 2: Backside of the play. Huge play by mack Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Sor pressure up the middle, pass batt down by Wilson

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Speaker 4: at the line incomplete. Mac Wilson jumped up into the air,

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Speaker 4: got a hand on it, hands it off for Cook

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Speaker 4: and he's cut down at the twenty yard line. Mac

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Speaker 4: Wilson with the hit. Big hit by the Cardinal newcomer,

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Speaker 4: Mac Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Senior getting a little grease right there. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you and a day, Pash called his number,

748
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Speaker 7: called his name quite a bit this past season. An

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Speaker 7: outstanding free agent signing by Mania support and the Cardinals.

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Speaker 7: If you flash back to the free agent class twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty four, we also had Sean Murphy bunting at corner

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Speaker 7: DJ Dallas. You had Justin Jones, Blall and Nichols along

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Speaker 7: that defensive line. Both expected to have big rebound years

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Speaker 7: this year. Evan Brown Jonah Williams. But once again, MacWilson Senior,

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Speaker 7: what you saw in film and New England right that projection,

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Speaker 7: it was almost like a college draft pick in some

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Speaker 7: ways because he was used sparingly and really the only

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Speaker 7: final month plus of the season for the Patriots. But

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Speaker 7: what you saw in that four or five game span, Man,

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Speaker 7: did he build on that over a seventeen game season

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Speaker 7: for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm with you on that, Polly, Seriously, I

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Speaker 1: think MacWilson Sr. Is going to be a very very

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Speaker 1: important piece to what the Arizona Cardinals defense does this year.

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Speaker 1: Can I also say, though, going back to Blown Nichols

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Speaker 1: and Justin Jones, those two guys right there, Paully, I

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Speaker 1: really do believe are going to come back this year

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Speaker 1: and have a little bit more focus, if you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, a little bit more impetus to actually

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Speaker 1: go out there and re establish themselves on this roster.

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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I say that is

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Speaker 1: because I do expect the Arizona Cardinals to go out

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Speaker 1: there and bring some young guys in, whether it's through

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Speaker 1: free agency or whether it's going to be through the draft,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. I do believe that the depth

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Speaker 1: on the defensive line is this is going to be

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Speaker 1: one of the better camp battles.

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Speaker 7: I think Pauli and look what happened LJ. Collier two

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Speaker 7: years ago, right when he went down early in the season,

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Speaker 7: first game of the season twenty twenty three. Then he

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Speaker 7: really rebounded with a big year for the Cardinals and

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Speaker 7: that defensive front. So hopefully you figure that's in store

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Speaker 7: for Justin Jones, Ball Nichols. Here's Manias aboard the GM

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Speaker 7: the decision maker on building through free agency versus the

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Speaker 7: draft this week at the combine.

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Speaker 8: That's always a balance, right because you know, I think

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Speaker 8: we talk about, hey, when we get through free agency,

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Speaker 8: can we go out and play a game? Because I

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Speaker 8: think what we don't want to do is we don't

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Speaker 8: want to go into a draft and saying, hey, we

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Speaker 8: absolutely have to draft this position to fill this need.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think that's that's a tough place to

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Speaker 8: be in because you don't know who's going to be available.

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Speaker 8: You don't know if that player is ready to fill

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Speaker 8: that role, right, And so I think that's a balance.

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Speaker 8: It's a balance of the roster building of hey, where

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Speaker 8: are we going to sink our resources free agency wise,

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Speaker 8: and then that opens up possibilities in the draft.

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Speaker 7: And we've talked a lot about the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 7: both D line, O line, and there could be free

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Speaker 7: agent signings, especially on the old line that are coming.

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Speaker 7: They're in store here in a couple of weeks. But

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Speaker 7: what about middle linebacker. You talk about mac Wilson Senior.

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Speaker 7: You got to talk about Kaizer White because last we

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Speaker 7: heard from those two guys, it was on social media,

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Speaker 7: Kaizer White posting thank you AZ at the end of

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Speaker 7: the year, and then MacWilson Senior responding, say, no, don't

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Speaker 7: do this to me. Appreciate you for everything, Go get yours.

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Speaker 7: And so look, MANI was ahead of the curve and

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Speaker 7: getting deals done with Buddha Baker and James Connor and

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Speaker 7: Xavin Collins. I wonder if he tried to get a

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Speaker 7: deal done with Kaizer White. They didn't agree on a number.

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Speaker 7: And now Kaizer White is headed a free agency and

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Speaker 7: what does that mean for the Cardinals when it comes

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Speaker 7: to the quarterback of your defense.

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Speaker 1: Boy, that is a tough one right there.

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Speaker 2: Paully.

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Speaker 1: I know you have thoughts on this as well, but

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Speaker 1: just thinking of Kaizer White and the fact that Nick

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Speaker 1: Rawlis named his baby after him. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that has an awful lot to do. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: respect that Nick Rawlis has for Kaizer White and JG

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Speaker 1: as well, and even Manti Ausen for it, there's no

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Speaker 1: denying it. The respect they have for Kaiser White cannot

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Speaker 1: be measured, I think with human hands. Yet at the

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Speaker 1: same time, he's going to test the waters and sometimes, Paully,

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Speaker 1: that's the best thing you could possibly do. I know

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Speaker 1: that's something the Rams are doing right now with Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: They're letting him go out there and see what kind

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Speaker 1: of deal will you be able to get out there

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Speaker 1: with somebody else, and then we'll talk about the possibilities.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that isn't what happened with Kaizer White

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Speaker 1: as well. I wonder if that wasn't a situation. And

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Speaker 1: again it's neither here nor there. I don't know, no,

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Speaker 1: but he's told me this. It's just me looking at

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Speaker 1: it from the outside in. I wonder if Mani Austin

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Speaker 1: for it. Hey, Kaizer, you go out there and you

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Speaker 1: try to get what you possibly can, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: tell you if we're interested in matching that offer.

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Speaker 7: No, it's a very plausible theory. You flashed back two

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Speaker 7: years ago at this time. Jonathan ginn and obviously had

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Speaker 7: knowledge of Kaizer White from his days as the Eagles

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Speaker 7: defensive coordinator, right brought Kaizer over from Philly.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 7: JG was asked about that this week at the combine.

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Speaker 7: Just having familiarity with certain free agents.

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Speaker 14: Anytime you have like real time experience with a player,

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Speaker 14: you kind of kind of know a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 14: free agency is just like all players. There's a little

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Speaker 14: bit of unknown with all those guys. That decreases the

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Speaker 14: unknown with me because I was with him for a

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Speaker 14: couple of years. So we'll look at all the players

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Speaker 14: in free agency see if they fit us. I know

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Speaker 14: there's a money component to everything, but at the end

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Speaker 14: of the day, we'll do what's best for us and

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Speaker 14: try to acquire guys that are going to help us win.

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Speaker 7: And of course, the media followed up by saying, you know, coach,

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Speaker 7: when you defensive coordinator of Philly, you had a guy

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Speaker 7: by the name of Josh Sweat who starred in the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl. You had a guy by the name of

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Speaker 7: Milton Williams defensive wrecking ball interior d line. So that

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Speaker 7: was sort of the genesis of that question. Now, those

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Speaker 7: two guys are going to be in high demand and

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Speaker 7: probably gonna get high dollars, I would imagine in the

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Speaker 7: open marketplace.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to see what Josh

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Speaker 1: Sweat gets, PAULI, because he's going to be going into

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Speaker 1: his eighth year and it's not like Josh Sweat. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you looked at Josh Sweat and you thought

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Speaker 1: to yourself, man, this guy is one of the best

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Speaker 1: edge rushers in the history of the game or he now.

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Speaker 1: Has he done well? Of course he has. He's gone

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Speaker 1: out there. He had eight sacks last year, the year

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Speaker 1: before that six and a half. He did have eleven

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two that was the most. But this

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Speaker 1: is a guy who's played seven years in the league

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Speaker 1: right now, will be going into his eighth year, and

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's done nothing but post double digit

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Speaker 1: sacks for the most part. So I have to won

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Speaker 1: at this point in time just how many offers he's

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Speaker 1: going to get and what that offer will be. Now,

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Speaker 1: for me, I'm really really encouraged because I think Josh

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Speaker 1: Sweat might actually give the Arizona Cardinals a free agent discount,

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Speaker 1: if you will, because of JG and because of Nick Rawlis.

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Speaker 1: And we also know that the Cardinals looking at Josh

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Speaker 1: Sweat man, they have the price of admission, as JG

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Speaker 1: likes to say, And knowing Josh Sweat, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: he feels really really good about possibly bringing him in here.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see how this unfolds, of course,

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Speaker 1: and it's all speculation, but I'm going to put the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals as possibly the front runner for Josh Sweat.

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Speaker 7: Interesting, you know, the low key priority for Mania Saport,

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Speaker 7: maybe just because I've seen his name pop up on

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Speaker 7: a few lists of potential free agent pass rushers. Baron Browning, Yes,

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Speaker 7: still fairly young. I thought he finished with a flourish.

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Speaker 7: You know, we talked to JG on his TV show

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Speaker 7: every week. Once he got totally healthy, once he got

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Speaker 7: familiar with the defense, and he was playing and not thinking,

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Speaker 7: and he had all his skills at his disposal, he

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Speaker 7: finished pretty strong, didn't he.

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Speaker 1: Paully?

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Speaker 2: How about this right here? Now?

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Speaker 1: Listen, you know how I feel Pro football focus is

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Speaker 1: not the end all be all. It's not yet at

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Speaker 1: the same time, they had Baron Browning ranked number five

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Speaker 1: in terms of edge rushers in free agency.

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Speaker 2: Wow, number five. Ball interesting to your point.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So yeah, and I think you know what I

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Speaker 7: might have seen that. I think that was like the

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Speaker 7: second half of the season. They sort of took the

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Speaker 7: guys who made the biggest imprint on the game and defensively.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, so I'm curious how they value him, and

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Speaker 7: I'm curious if they get a deal done because his

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Speaker 7: money said this week, once you go to market, anything

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Speaker 7: can happen. Anyone can go and throw some big money.

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Speaker 7: By the way, the best news for you Wolf, as

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Speaker 7: the NFL said today, they're trying to find a way

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Speaker 7: to bring on sidekicks. Yeah, baby back into the game.

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Speaker 2: Hey, give me a call.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know.

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