Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh man, I thought morale was high. Tensions
Speaker 1: are starting to flare a little bit. We have somehow
Speaker 1: poked the bear or the tiger, the Missouri Tiger football program. Yep,
Speaker 1: in the first hour we are actually talking Missouri football.
Speaker 1: I think this is due to Drew Locke in the
Speaker 1: ESPN Redraft pool, where he would be the fifteenth overall
Speaker 1: selection by the Denver Broncos and everybody is available in
Speaker 1: this draft. And I started to reminisce about all my
Speaker 1: Missouri football memories and going back to watching Drew Locke
Speaker 1: when I think he went from forty four to twenty
Speaker 1: eight touchdown passes. Does that sound about right? His interceptions
Speaker 1: weren't that bad, but he would had a monster junior year.
Speaker 1: For some reason didn't come out Paul, and Iowa joins us, Hey, Paul,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey? Five eleven, one seventy, thank you.
Speaker 1: So you guys are really under playing the coveted telephone
Speaker 1: trophy that was played between the Iowa State and Missouri
Speaker 1: for decades. Okay, And the story goes that the coordinators
Speaker 1: in the fifties or sixties literally got their wires crossed
Speaker 1: and could hear each other's play calls, and they played
Speaker 1: for the Telephone Trophy ever since. All right, well, thank you, Paul.
Speaker 1: But of course that was in the fifties and sixties
Speaker 1: where it might have mattered. I don't know if it matters.
Speaker 1: It feels like Iowa State football is on the rise
Speaker 1: more than Missouri football is on the rise. All right, well,
Speaker 1: welcome to the program. We talk Canadian Football League. By
Speaker 1: the way, in the first hour we cover all the
Speaker 1: big stories on this program. Warren Moon in the Canadian
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. He'll join us coming up. Also
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he'll join us coming up.
Speaker 1: Michael Wilbon from ESPN will join us as well. Adam
Speaker 1: and Chicago joins us right now. Adam, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Hey guys, So Dan, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you and the boys how much the show is
Speaker 1: meant to me. I used to work at sports radio
Speaker 1: at six seventy of the Score in Chicago. I think
Speaker 1: you're familiar with that, yes, and so I when I
Speaker 1: first started. I worked there for like nine years. But
Speaker 1: when I first started, I worked those dreaded weekend overnight shows.
Speaker 1: And so I would come in at like midnight on
Speaker 1: Friday and push buttons Saturday midnight and push Buttons. But
Speaker 1: on Fridays we would simulcast your show, Push Buttons to
Speaker 1: play your show. And it got me at least till
Speaker 1: three in the morning. And you know, you're twenty years old,
Speaker 1: twenty one years old in Chicago, all your friends are out,
Speaker 1: you head on the l to go downtown and work
Speaker 1: at midnight. It was at least something to look forward to.
Speaker 1: Are you still in the business. No, No, I left.
Speaker 1: I now work at a school district. I do storytelling
Speaker 1: and communications for them. So I've taken my my talents
Speaker 1: to make sure that I can tell stories and make
Speaker 1: sure people know that everything going on in education it
Speaker 1: actually quite awesome. All right, Well good luck with that,
Speaker 1: Adam and Glad we could entertain you. Yes, Point teaches storytelling.
Speaker 1: Huh wow? Does that mean he reads to kids? What
Speaker 1: is that all about? Wow? That was a shot no offense? Yeah? Man, yeah,
Speaker 1: MC remember what I ripped Brook Lopez for being a
Speaker 1: I think a poetry major. Yeah, I think you called
Speaker 1: his major a hobby. Is that a major or a hobby? Well? Hey,
Speaker 1: the whole show said you'll never hit a three. Dare
Speaker 1: to hit three? Now he hits like seven a game.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I said, take one in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: I changed brook Lopez his career. I know. Is that
Speaker 1: the wildest turnaround? Because I said, look, you know we
Speaker 1: got you into the All Star Game? Maybe we didn't,
Speaker 1: but I told him that can you shoot a three?
Speaker 1: And he shoots a three in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Then after that he starts shooting threes and has become
Speaker 1: very prolific at shooting threes. All right, age seven seventh
Speaker 1: PREDP show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com,
Speaker 1: Twitter handle a DP show UH poll question McLevin, Oh,
Speaker 1: the same pole that everybody has today. Would you rather
Speaker 1: be Chase Daniel or the best Canadian Football League quarterback? On?
Speaker 1: That's polyty went Chase Daniel right now? Wow, that's close.
Speaker 1: What are the other pole questions? Suggestion possibilities? Okay, we did.
Speaker 1: I did put together who would you draft if you
Speaker 1: didn't couldn't draft a quarterback? The Aaron Donald pole? Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald one of the BOATSA brothers are Ronnie Stanley or
Speaker 1: the first thing nobody knows Ronnie Stanley. I know he's
Speaker 1: number five. What do you know, he's sorry, he's number six.
Speaker 1: Putting steph On Gilmore in there? Gilmore, do you put
Speaker 1: the Bossa brothers in there? You don't get both though,
Speaker 1: you gotta pick one, but both Bosa brothers in the
Speaker 1: top ten, and then it's a long drop till you
Speaker 1: get like McCaffrey at twenty and then Khalil Mack at
Speaker 1: twenty four. So like there, there's not very many non
Speaker 1: qbs that make this list at all. I hate these lists. Hannah,
Speaker 1: and Missouri joins us. Good morning, Hannah, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Good morning? How are you? Oh? What's wrong? Oh? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Oh okay. I just wanted to come on and say,
Speaker 1: I'm a recent grad from Missouri and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Waking up and going to those eleven o'clock and twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock games to tailgate was a party. So you really
Speaker 1: can't beat that. Okay, But if you had maybe a
Speaker 1: seven o'clock game, Hannah, how much more exciting could that be?
Speaker 1: Where you had an evening where you could tailgate and
Speaker 1: go to football. Yeah, you still wake up n tailgate
Speaker 1: all day long? Yes, absolutely, this is good. Did you
Speaker 1: know that Missouri football that Missouri was in the Southeastern Conference. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well, thank you, thank you for calling in. Hannah.
Speaker 1: Can you ask her if your remembers when they were
Speaker 1: number one? Hannah's you weren't old enough. Daniels, Jay Daniels, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was two thousand and seven. Daniel, All that's okay.
Speaker 1: She can add an ass to it. She got the
Speaker 1: you know, the right quarterback mclovin. People always add an ass.
Speaker 1: I know that was always. I always had a problem
Speaker 1: with Chase Daniel. It was like, oh, you did it too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yes, Chase Daniels. Yeah. And I still say, Josh McDaniel,
Speaker 1: is it McDaniels, McDaniels. You know, I do that too,
Speaker 1: And Fritzie always says, you said Josh McDaniel, I do
Speaker 1: it's Josh McDaniels. I'm totally played. It's McDaniels. Got an ass?
Speaker 1: Why why does he have an ass? Yeah? Oh, I
Speaker 1: guess yeah, mc daniels, which is the more common name.
Speaker 1: I'm so confused right now. What about Lloyd Daniels. That's
Speaker 1: that is an asset, Lloyd Daniel. How about what cal
Speaker 1: Daniels told Fritzie to get out of town ready for
Speaker 1: the season. Cal Nope, it's tough around the batting cage.
Speaker 1: I was always really uncomfortable around the batting cage because
Speaker 1: that's their little workshop, and you know, members of the media,
Speaker 1: and then you're trying to curry aver where you can
Speaker 1: get somebody. Maybe, hey, can I can I get an
Speaker 1: interview with you? But you needed to have that opening
Speaker 1: line and I'm the worst, not worth than what I did.
Speaker 1: That's not I thought provoking question ready for the stave
Speaker 1: and co Well, I wouldn't expect anything deep out of
Speaker 1: you and be just And why were you on the
Speaker 1: field in the first place. I got a credential because
Speaker 1: I was working at the sports radio station. They sent
Speaker 1: me to cover the team, and I couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: I could just walk on the field like that. I
Speaker 1: felt the need to shouts up the gay Wait did
Speaker 1: you just hold a microphone? Is that how? You don't
Speaker 1: even have a microphone. I was standing next to all
Speaker 1: the people covering the Dodgers and where like down the
Speaker 1: third day, So how are you covering them if you're not?
Speaker 1: Because I was one of the producers for the new
Speaker 1: LA radio station, but you weren't covering them. I wasn't
Speaker 1: a Dodger beat ride. But I was covering LA Sports
Speaker 1: and I was given a Dodger. But you weren't doing
Speaker 1: anything at the game, were you know? Okay? And like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm on the field that you're viserv
Speaker 1: and I lived, grew up three thousand miles from here,
Speaker 1: and I'm a Dodger stattion. Well, maybe Cal Daniels looked
Speaker 1: at you and said, who is this poser? Year There's
Speaker 1: no pen, no paper, no microphone, cowboy boots and a
Speaker 1: cowboy that's odd. Yeah, Paully and tal with no no
Speaker 1: pads and no recorder. How do you know you quoted
Speaker 1: Cal Daniels correctly when he said nope, nope, yeah, best
Speaker 1: locker room. Sorry. Ever, is when those guys made you
Speaker 1: talk to Randy Johnson. I will never I'm never going
Speaker 1: to a baseball locker room because I never want that
Speaker 1: to happen to me. That was Mark Grace and Luis
Speaker 1: Gonzalez Randy Johnson. You did not approach on game day,
Speaker 1: really any day, but you did not approach Randy Johnson
Speaker 1: on game day. And I'm there when Grace is with
Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamondbacks and I go to his locker I
Speaker 1: say a load to him. It's at Wrigley Field, and uh,
Speaker 1: he's there with Luis Gonzalez and there, you know, we're
Speaker 1: just talking bs and he goes uh. And then Randy
Speaker 1: Johnson came in and he was at the other end
Speaker 1: of the locker room and Grace goes, hey, go say
Speaker 1: a loo to Unit. And I said, okay, you know
Speaker 1: I saw yeah finish up. I say, he's pitching today, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got go Saily. So I get done talking to
Speaker 1: Grace and Gunzalez and I walked down and I said, uh, hey, Unit,
Speaker 1: and he just looked at me as if I was
Speaker 1: batting third for the Cubs that day. He wanted to
Speaker 1: drill me. I said, hey, how are you doing, Unit?
Speaker 1: He's think and I don't even know if he said
Speaker 1: good or and then he walked away and I turned
Speaker 1: around in Grace and Luis Gonzalez are just laughing. They
Speaker 1: think it's the funniest thing in the world that I
Speaker 1: went down there and said a load to Randy Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's worse? A good glared out like that? Or remember
Speaker 1: when Randy Johnson first it didn't start out well when
Speaker 1: he became a Yankee and he was yelling at people
Speaker 1: in the street away from me. Here. There's certain players
Speaker 1: who who should they're meant for certain cities and certain
Speaker 1: players who are not. Remember Ed Whitson when he was
Speaker 1: with the Yankees that didn't go well, Randy John, like
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan fit San Antonio and vice versa. I don't
Speaker 1: know how Tim Duncan would have been if he was
Speaker 1: playing in New York, like that personality, like you have
Speaker 1: to have a city that fits you, and not all
Speaker 1: cities you know, fit these players. But Tim Duncan is
Speaker 1: just perfect for San Antonio. It felt like because he
Speaker 1: didn't need anything, He didn't want publicity. John Stockton was
Speaker 1: perfect for Salt Lake City. Carl Malone could have thrived
Speaker 1: elsewhere because I think Carl he liked that publicity. He
Speaker 1: liked the note right. John Stockton did not want to
Speaker 1: talk about himself ever, And Duncan is the same way.
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. You could have put him any place and
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to talk, but it felt like Stillwater,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma first college career was perfect. Yeah, Paul, Remember when
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard went from Orlando to La I was like,
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be perfect, such an entertaining,
Speaker 1: showy guy, great interview. I was like, Oh, he's perfect
Speaker 1: for Los Angeles. I know it's more on the court stuff,
Speaker 1: but I thought he was destined to be a great
Speaker 1: LA athlete because he played so well with the media. Well.
Speaker 1: I was told that he in his minded outgrown Orlando.
Speaker 1: He wanted to follow in Shack's footsteps. You know, he
Speaker 1: wanted to be the next Superman, and he was only there.
Speaker 1: He was one and done in LA, right, and just
Speaker 1: I think the situation there, I think Kobe trying to
Speaker 1: push him, you know, just didn't work out for a
Speaker 1: variety of reasons. But you know, Shaq came in and
Speaker 1: embraced LA and vice versa. His personality was so big
Speaker 1: that LA was perfect for him. And I think Dwight
Speaker 1: Howard was trying to follow in Shack's footsteps. Jeff and Detroit, Hey, Jeff,
Speaker 1: good morning, what do you have for me? What up? Though?
Speaker 1: One time for chat Row, Hey Dan, listen, you had
Speaker 1: a wonderful question and I was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: if Dan was in charge of the Trigger Meet Smoker's
Speaker 1: product placement, and he had a draft who would be
Speaker 1: his quarterback and running back and wide receiver. You can
Speaker 1: pick from any era, but they have to play together?
Speaker 1: Or are you picking so I can pick my quarterback,
Speaker 1: my running back, and my wide receiver from any era,
Speaker 1: from any era? All right, well, thank you, Jeff. Let
Speaker 1: me think about that. Um, yeah, I don't I'd have
Speaker 1: to think about that one, because do I take Brady
Speaker 1: because of his success or do I take somebody who
Speaker 1: is Yeah, I don't get Belichick to go along with Brady?
Speaker 1: And then are we playing today's NFL? Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know that. That feels like I'm going down a road
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go no. No, On second thought, I'll
Speaker 1: take no, no, no, On second thought, I'll take Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm club. I think Jeff was getting in something. He
Speaker 1: said they have to play together, implying the chemistry the
Speaker 1: three is important. I don't know. No, I thought he
Speaker 1: was saying that they are there on the same team. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: h so would you a pair of Montana and a
Speaker 1: Rice because we know they worked together well or something?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of the thinking. I don't know. But
Speaker 1: then I can take another running back. I don't have
Speaker 1: to take Roger Craig. Right, you could put Barry Sanders,
Speaker 1: which is why he asked a question kind of, mister Detroit,
Speaker 1: I would probably go Aikman, Irvin and Emmett because they
Speaker 1: played together. I already have that advantage, unless you're gonna
Speaker 1: go Bradshaw, Swan Franco Harris would be a possibility. But
Speaker 1: if I've already got my guys who have played together,
Speaker 1: and they're all Hall of famers, so I'd feel pretty
Speaker 1: good going into battle with those guys. I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: what's the best trio in NFL history? Yes, Todd, I
Speaker 1: was disappointed because you rave about Lay being your favorite
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. But you know, if you weren't
Speaker 1: looking at three that were on the same team, if
Speaker 1: you're independently pick who you thought was the best quarterback,
Speaker 1: running back, in wide receiver. Just when I thought he
Speaker 1: was getting at that, you would go with always. Why
Speaker 1: I've heard from you twice today about Drew Locke and
Speaker 1: John Elway. As a former girlfriend of mine once said,
Speaker 1: free your mind, the resta will follow him, Okay, as
Speaker 1: Paulie says, we're too far down the road on that one.
Speaker 1: We free your mind, the rest will follow Jamie, and
Speaker 1: North Carolina will join us. Hey, Jane Hey, Dan six four,
Speaker 1: two fifteen, going back to work today, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: I get to talk to you, But I have a
Speaker 1: funny story. I don't screw it up quickly. Randy Johnson
Speaker 1: was pool side when I was a little kid, and
Speaker 1: I went to try and get his autograph and he
Speaker 1: looked up at me, and I'm not sure if what
Speaker 1: his next action was gonna be, but he was so
Speaker 1: intimidating that I just took off and couldn't get his autograph.
Speaker 1: And I just like told my dad. My dad saw
Speaker 1: him layer that night, said he was really friendly, but
Speaker 1: he just looked so great and he was sitting pool side.
Speaker 1: I just this funny story. All right, Well, thank you, Jamie,
Speaker 1: and good luck going back to work. Yeah. Unit is
Speaker 1: because he's so tall, and I've had two run ins
Speaker 1: with him. Now I have a great relationship with him now.
Speaker 1: But I remember when he was in Seattle and the
Speaker 1: entire starting lineup surrounded me at the batting cage and
Speaker 1: wanted to know why I didn't talk about Edgar Martinez more.
Speaker 1: Now I had him all there, and Unit was, you know,
Speaker 1: He's staring down at me, like, why don't we give
Speaker 1: Edgar Martinez more love on Sports Center, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't run the network. You never you know,
Speaker 1: you don't show his highlights. And I was thinking, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to see on Edgar Martinez base knock the other
Speaker 1: way and he didn't play the field. Yeah, Paul Daniel
Speaker 1: remember this, Randy Johnson. I think what the Diamondbacks had
Speaker 1: a perfect game maybe oh four oh five, and Fritzie
Speaker 1: called to get Randy Johnson on the show Perfect Game.
Speaker 1: Of course you want Randy Johnson on the show. Randy
Speaker 1: Johnson told the pr person, I'll only come on if
Speaker 1: they let my catcher. I think his name is Robbie Hammock,
Speaker 1: because he has to be involved in the interview too.
Speaker 1: If you enter both of us, I'll come on your show.
Speaker 1: And that was the first time he ever did an
Speaker 1: interview with you on the radio show. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: had to have his catcher. He said, we did it together,
Speaker 1: wasn't just me, And that's the only way we got
Speaker 1: Randy Johnson. But I thought that was very telling about him. Yes,
Speaker 1: for too, I'm sure he's very different. On Game Day
Speaker 1: the locker room and you were set up to fail
Speaker 1: when they told you they played a joke on your
Speaker 1: go talk to him. He likes to chat. But we
Speaker 1: had him once a long time ago on a show
Speaker 1: up close and he was doing All Star time, and
Speaker 1: he couldn't have been nicer. He was just a lovely
Speaker 1: man and just very respectful and sweet. And he didn't
Speaker 1: as intimidating as he looks as this big, tall presence.
Speaker 1: He was just he couldn't have been kinder and appreciative
Speaker 1: of being on So I thought that was very cool,
Speaker 1: very different than what he would look like if you
Speaker 1: had just met him. Thank you too, well? Was there
Speaker 1: a story there? Now? It was a sharing experience with
Speaker 1: Randy people. He's got a bad rap like I think
Speaker 1: over the years as being this scary, intimidating person. Just
Speaker 1: because he's like that on the mound doesn't mean that's
Speaker 1: the person is I just thought that would be an
Speaker 1: interesting little footnote this year. But obviously I've missed the
Speaker 1: mark there somewhere. You know, all right, he's sweet. I was.
Speaker 1: He was shockingly nice. I thought he'd have an attitude
Speaker 1: or like you know that he was doing us a
Speaker 1: big favor. He was showing up where he give you this, Claire,
Speaker 1: or he wasn't like Dave Stewart staring down the catchers, admit,
Speaker 1: obviously I missed the marks. That's such a great line.
Speaker 1: That wasn't Bronko's light either, although he did picture the
Speaker 1: astros briefly take a break. Here, more phone calls coming up.
Speaker 1: The best man, Dave Stewart will wheel him back in
Speaker 1: that reference. Yeah you remember Dave, Yeah, I do, stared down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta be about forty five fifty years
Speaker 1: old to get the Dave Steward most of your references,
Speaker 1: you have to be at least forty five years You
Speaker 1: really need to get with the times and U you
Speaker 1: know the audience and what their ages are. What does
Speaker 1: that call the gun that trying to hit a demographic?
Speaker 1: That's the word I was looking for. Back to you
Speaker 1: in the studio. Thank you, Don Warren Moon will join us.
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Speaker 1: shirt that's at Dan Patrick dot com. Warren Moon through
Speaker 1: as pretty a deep ball as anybody I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Jeff George was another one who threw a great deep ball.
Speaker 1: Warren's were usually caught, though, as opposed to Jeff George's
Speaker 1: and the Hall of Famer joining us on the program,
Speaker 1: Good Morning, Warren, how are you? That's not fair? Jeff
Speaker 1: George did have a talented arm, though. Man, he could
Speaker 1: throw it from every angle, from every platform. I love
Speaker 1: watching him throw the football. Most physically talented quarterback you've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Wow, you gotta go by errors Like John
Speaker 1: Elway was pretty physically talented during the time that I play.
Speaker 1: You're looking now at Patrick Mahomes, I mean, as physically talented.
Speaker 1: He is. Also Aaron Rodgers, There's been There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of them, so I don't know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say one, but those guys that I just named are
Speaker 1: pretty much in that same class where they can throw
Speaker 1: the ball from any angle, any platform, feet don't have
Speaker 1: to be together. One of them throw the ball with
Speaker 1: his left hand in a game and then completed one,
Speaker 1: So that tells you how talented those guys are. How
Speaker 1: helpless is that feeling when you're on the sidelines and
Speaker 1: you're watching a quarterback lead that two minute drill and
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. Believe me, I've been there,
Speaker 1: because I remember in Denver, you know, we got gave
Speaker 1: the ball back to John Elway with a minute forty
Speaker 1: eight left on his own five yard line, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines hoping our defense can get them
Speaker 1: stops so we can win this playoff game. And he
Speaker 1: takes them down, converts two fourth down situations, and ends
Speaker 1: up going down and getting the final score to beat us.
Speaker 1: So there was nothing I could do over on that sideline,
Speaker 1: as you said, because my job, if anything, I could
Speaker 1: have got one more first down and hopefully ran the
Speaker 1: clock out, but that didn't happen. So there's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do if you don't play defense. When you came
Speaker 1: out of Washington and you had an unbelievable Rose Bowl performance,
Speaker 1: but why were you told you weren't drafted? You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons. It had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the real reason I think. You know, they said
Speaker 1: I didn't come out of a pro style offense. They
Speaker 1: said that a lot of teams who never even came
Speaker 1: out to look at me, thought I wasn't tall enough,
Speaker 1: I wasn't big enough. You know, I'm the same same
Speaker 1: height as I am right now. I was probably a
Speaker 1: two hundred and five pounds at the time, which which
Speaker 1: I think was pretty big enough to play quarterback. And
Speaker 1: just a lot of different reasons it didn't make a
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. But the biggest thing I think
Speaker 1: was they said that I didn't come out of a
Speaker 1: pro style offense and we didn't run a pro style offense.
Speaker 1: But that didn't mean that I couldn't navigate into a
Speaker 1: pro style offense if that's what I was asked to do.
Speaker 1: I ran the offenses that I was asked to run.
Speaker 1: And that's what good quarterbacks can do. They can make
Speaker 1: adjustments to different types of styles if they have an
Speaker 1: ability that they need to play the position. And playing
Speaker 1: the position for as long as you did, there were
Speaker 1: code words that you would hear that would mean something.
Speaker 1: They would it would mean more to you than it
Speaker 1: would mean because they're saying, well, you didn't run a
Speaker 1: pro style offense, not that you couldn't adapt to run
Speaker 1: a pro style offense, but all of a sudden, we've
Speaker 1: labeled you. No, Cam Newton didn't run a pro style offense. No,
Speaker 1: but lots of guys didn't run pro style offenses. But
Speaker 1: there's guys that ran option offenses in college, but they
Speaker 1: still went into the still got a chance to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL and at least show what they could do.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't taking that. Even Doug Williams, who ran
Speaker 1: a pro style offense at Grammling the year that I
Speaker 1: came out, he was he was a first round draft pick,
Speaker 1: but he was. He went to Tampa Bay, which was
Speaker 1: John McKay at the time, and John McKay had African
Speaker 1: American quarterbacks a bunch at USC, so he was used
Speaker 1: to having an African American quarterback. But if Doug wouldn't
Speaker 1: have win at thirteen, which was thirteenth pick, he should
Speaker 1: have went before that. But but he went to thirteen.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't go to Tampa Bay at thirteen, who
Speaker 1: he might not have went in the first round either.
Speaker 1: So that's that's just the time that we lived in
Speaker 1: there was a mentality and a stigma about African American quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and I knew it was going to be difficult for
Speaker 1: me to play that position when I chose to do it,
Speaker 1: so it didn't surprise me when things got a little
Speaker 1: more difficult as I got into college. You hear this
Speaker 1: conversation now where people are saying, hey, maybe it's time
Speaker 1: to give Colin Kaepernick a chance. I just wonder is
Speaker 1: it a legitimate chance for him? He's gonna want to start.
Speaker 1: I think everything he's gone through, you don't want to
Speaker 1: go back into the NFL and say, Okay, hey, we
Speaker 1: gave you your job, now go away. You should be happy.
Speaker 1: He's a competitor like anybody is. He wants to start.
Speaker 1: But do you think Kaepernick, why now is somebody going
Speaker 1: to give him a chance when he hasn't played in
Speaker 1: four years? That now we give him a chance? And
Speaker 1: how do you think he would accept that opportunity? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think the only way he should be given a
Speaker 1: chance is that if he can go through a workout
Speaker 1: for a team and pass their workout, because he, like
Speaker 1: you said, he hasn't played in three or four years.
Speaker 1: A lot has changed in the game, the way the
Speaker 1: game is being played right now, and you want to
Speaker 1: find out from him. You want to sit down with
Speaker 1: him and find out where his mindset is, because as
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the NFL, you have to be kind
Speaker 1: of all in, especially if you're trying to get a
Speaker 1: job and trying to recreate yourself in the league. It's
Speaker 1: not like he's an established guy and he can maybe
Speaker 1: start doing some things off the field. He's trying to
Speaker 1: get back into it, so he's got to really be
Speaker 1: focused and all in on this because, more so than
Speaker 1: any other position in sports, quarterback you better be all
Speaker 1: in or it's not going to work well for you.
Speaker 1: So that would be my biggest question to him. Does
Speaker 1: he really want to play football? And then can he
Speaker 1: pass the workout of what a team would put him through?
Speaker 1: And then is he going to be focused enough to
Speaker 1: get up to speed to learn a team system. Because
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is sitting out there right now and he's
Speaker 1: not a starter. Jamis Winston is a backup somewhere. This
Speaker 1: guy hasn't played in four years, so if he expects
Speaker 1: to come in and be a starter, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to work his way back in like
Speaker 1: some of the other guys who have been playing each
Speaker 1: and every week. I was reading a column by Charles
Speaker 1: Robinson on Yahoo's saying, Roger Goodell has a small window
Speaker 1: to save his legacy and have a team signed Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: How does the commissioner convince a team to sign Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: I don't understand this. Yeah, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: going to happen either. He has a lot of power,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he has that type of power
Speaker 1: because again, he works for the owners, and the owners
Speaker 1: kind of make the decisions on how they want to
Speaker 1: do things, and you know, there's got to be an
Speaker 1: owner out there there's willing to take that opportunity to
Speaker 1: sign him. I know the Seahawks had him in here
Speaker 1: a number of years ago and sat him down, and
Speaker 1: I think they got a chance to learn who he was.
Speaker 1: They got a chance to see him physically, and they
Speaker 1: put him. You know, that was kind of part of
Speaker 1: their scouting process that if we needed a quarterback, we
Speaker 1: knew this is a guy that maybe we could go to.
Speaker 1: So they know who he is, They've they've sat down
Speaker 1: with him, and I think this would be a good
Speaker 1: fit for him if again, he answers all the other
Speaker 1: questions we talked about, whether he can pass the workout
Speaker 1: and whether he's really totally into playing football, because Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll's is open minded a coach that there is in
Speaker 1: the league, and the same thing with the ownership up here,
Speaker 1: so I think it could work up here. But again
Speaker 1: those other questions have to be answered. He's Warren Moon
Speaker 1: the CFL and NFL Hall of Famer. You're the only
Speaker 1: player in both CFL and NFL fame? Is that that right?
Speaker 1: I am? And only one other coach I think, Bud Grant.
Speaker 1: Bud Grant is a coach in the Olive Fame in
Speaker 1: Canada and also in the NFL two. So what did
Speaker 1: you get for going You get a jacket for going
Speaker 1: into the CFL Hall of Fame? I do. I got
Speaker 1: a jacket, Anni Bust kind of the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a better looking jacket, Canton or the Hamilton. The jacket
Speaker 1: might look better in Canada because it's black. It's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to wear your pro football jacket. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: gold jacket is cool. You love you that you have
Speaker 1: one in your closet, but it's not something you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear a swag every weekend, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to have an outfit that goes along with that.
Speaker 1: That gold jacket there, and then what's your number inside
Speaker 1: on your Pro Football Hall of Fame jacket? I think
Speaker 1: I'm two eighty three. Eighty three. Yeah, that was when
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee show me that. That was really cool. When
Speaker 1: you see that number in there, that inside patch, it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. You are the Yeah, you know exactly where
Speaker 1: you stand in the history of the game. Your salary
Speaker 1: first year in the CFL was what nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 1: I got thirty five thousand to sign and my first
Speaker 1: year's salary was forty five thousand. Wow, And that was
Speaker 1: considered like an equivalent to a second round contract in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, you had that money would go a
Speaker 1: long way in Edmonton, it did pretty well. But I
Speaker 1: was living in Seattle at the time. But when I
Speaker 1: first came to the NFL, and I was like a
Speaker 1: true free agent and highest paid player in the league.
Speaker 1: When I came into the league, I signed for five
Speaker 1: years for five point five million. Wow. But did change.
Speaker 1: They've changed a little since then, but didn't you have
Speaker 1: a contract that you were always going to be one
Speaker 1: of the I forget what it was, but didn't you
Speaker 1: get raises depending on other quarterbacks getting raises? Did your
Speaker 1: agent negotiate that where you were always going to be
Speaker 1: in the top five in salary? Yeah? My second contract
Speaker 1: was like that. Yeah, it was called adjustable years, so
Speaker 1: nobody could ever be paid more than myself. And I
Speaker 1: imagine something like that would happen to today. You look
Speaker 1: at like a Dak Prescott who's worried about, you know,
Speaker 1: his contractor, or Patrick Mahomes who probably is going to
Speaker 1: be one of the top quarterbacks from here going forward,
Speaker 1: you would think they'd want to have something like that
Speaker 1: in their deal if it's allowed. Some of those things
Speaker 1: aren't allowed anymore, but if that was allowed. Do you
Speaker 1: know if this is true that the story is Lebron
Speaker 1: James met his agent, Rich Paul because Rich was wearing
Speaker 1: a Warren Moon Jersey and Rich was walking through an airport.
Speaker 1: Lebron stopped him and ask him where he got to Jersey.
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear that story? Yeah? I heard that story,
Speaker 1: and the next time I ever see Lebron, I'm going
Speaker 1: to mention that to him and see if it's really true,
Speaker 1: why'd you pick one? You know, it was a number
Speaker 1: to me that was different. It was in my mind
Speaker 1: the number one is something I always strived for to
Speaker 1: be the best. And then I also felt like as
Speaker 1: as my teammates looked at me as the leader on
Speaker 1: a team, that number one is going to always remind
Speaker 1: them is that's what we want to be as a
Speaker 1: team as well. So it had significance as far as
Speaker 1: we're I wanted to finish personally and where our team
Speaker 1: should want to finish as a team. Were you there
Speaker 1: when Renfro Mike Renfro the game against the Steelers, but
Speaker 1: he was not there yet. No, that was three years
Speaker 1: before I got Yeah, because Houston had some tough losses.
Speaker 1: And you know that Renfro catch they said wasn't a
Speaker 1: catch that was against Pittsburgh, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched that game up in Canada. I think I was
Speaker 1: up there at the time because Earl Campbell when I
Speaker 1: came out the same year and he went to he
Speaker 1: went to Houston as their number one overall pick, but
Speaker 1: I went to Canada, So I watched a lot of
Speaker 1: Houston Orlder games on television man. Earl was something different though,
Speaker 1: But that's that style though. I mean, we see Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry now. But Earl took on everybody. Yeah, and everybody
Speaker 1: in the stadium knew he was getting the ball pretty
Speaker 1: much every play, and he still couldn't be stopped. And
Speaker 1: when I got to Houston, it was about his sixth year.
Speaker 1: He was a little bit banged up by then, and
Speaker 1: he ended up getting traded the next year to New
Speaker 1: Orleans with with bum phillips because he went to New Orleans.
Speaker 1: But I saw glimpses of who Earl still was during
Speaker 1: that one year that I played with him, one and
Speaker 1: a half a year, excuse me. And it's still one
Speaker 1: of those highlights, doesn't. He hit Isaiah robertson of the
Speaker 1: Rams right in the Sternham. He runs right through him
Speaker 1: and almost steps on him and goes on and the
Speaker 1: ends them ends up with no pads on it. At
Speaker 1: the same time, Terways dripped off of any other player
Speaker 1: in the league. Oh, it's good to talk to you, Warren.
Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well. We appreciate your perspective on
Speaker 1: all of this, and thanks for joining us. I am
Speaker 1: doing great and I'm glad you're doing as well and
Speaker 1: look forward to talking to you down the road. Thank you, Warren.
Speaker 1: That's Warren Moon. Five great cups for him and pro
Speaker 1: football and the Canadian Football League all of fame there.
Speaker 1: You got a bust, you got a jacket. Nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he threw a great deep ball, beautiful deep ball. And
Speaker 1: I love the Oilers. Ernest Gibbons. Yeah, Paul. He joined
Speaker 1: the Oilers in eighty four and he was like this
Speaker 1: mystery out of Canada where I mean, you guys got
Speaker 1: like you knew him because of what he did in college,
Speaker 1: But younger people, you didn't see CFL highlights, you didn't
Speaker 1: see anything. So he was just as legendary CFL athlete
Speaker 1: and great college quarterback who was about to join the Oilers.
Speaker 1: And I remember it was a really big deal when
Speaker 1: he joined the NFL. And then because we assumed if
Speaker 1: you went to the Canadian Football League that you couldn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball, that you were more of a running quarterback,
Speaker 1: athletic quarterback. And Doug Flute he had to go up there,
Speaker 1: which he shouldn't have, but he did. And you know,
Speaker 1: Joe thiseman went up there, and Joe played at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: I don't think Joe might have gotten drafted by the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: like really really late. But you watched Warren Moon throw
Speaker 1: a football and he went, that's not the reason why
Speaker 1: he hadn't been in the NFL, because he could throw
Speaker 1: a great deep ball. Tony Dungee talked, would tell that
Speaker 1: story about he had a wide receiver. I forget what, mccnoval,
Speaker 1: do you remember the wide receiver that Tony talked about,
Speaker 1: Jacob Reid At the Jacob Reid would drop the ball
Speaker 1: all the time. All of a sudden, Warren Moon comes in.
Speaker 1: Jacob Jake Reid has this unbelievable season because Warren Moon
Speaker 1: put it exactly where he needed to put it in
Speaker 1: between the numbers. Yes, Tony said, I mean Warren threw
Speaker 1: the ball, beautiful ball there and Jake Reid. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break here. Michael Wilbon joins us, coming
Speaker 1: up a little bit later on baseball, still in the
Speaker 1: on deck circle. Maybe we get some movement here. And
Speaker 1: I hate to build up anybody's hopes with this, I
Speaker 1: hate to tear them down too, but I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to be realistic with what I'm hearing. What I'm seeing
Speaker 1: what I'm reading, and I don't know any more than
Speaker 1: probably what you do. But you want to apply logic
Speaker 1: to this, that you assume the owners would want to
Speaker 1: come back and the players would want to come back,
Speaker 1: and that you could meet somewhere in the middle, and
Speaker 1: we could have a seventy five games schedule season and
Speaker 1: you could get pay commensurate too how many games you're
Speaker 1: going to play. It just doesn't feel like everybody has
Speaker 1: the same goal here. I saw will bon and Kornheiser
Speaker 1: go off on this yesterday on part of the interruption,
Speaker 1: and that maybe say to Todd, we should have willbon On.
Speaker 1: I love to get him riled up to And we
Speaker 1: do have the schedule for the NBA with the regular
Speaker 1: season and then the postseason here, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: a pretty tight window. And if you're the NBA going
Speaker 1: to be going up against the NFL first couple of
Speaker 1: weeks in when you're going to have your late playoff
Speaker 1: games in the NBA Finals, got to stay away from
Speaker 1: Sunday's Sunday Night Monday Thursday and try to sprinkle your
Speaker 1: product in accordingly. All right, we'll take a break. More
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Speaker 1: Patrick Show saw this article on cbssports dot com jumping
Speaker 1: on my bandwagon, Brad Bodkin saying the Rockets could make
Speaker 1: a Cinderella run. Yeah, if I was going to put money,
Speaker 1: which I don't, but if I was, I put some
Speaker 1: money on the Rockets to maybe surprise people as a
Speaker 1: one of those longer shots to win the championship. Now,
Speaker 1: they were only together for fourteen games with their current lineup,
Speaker 1: and they didn't play well towards the end of the
Speaker 1: regular season when the lockout happened. But you know, the
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs are really predictable for the most part because
Speaker 1: of the seven game series, the East West format. But
Speaker 1: you know, this is different. This is something different. No
Speaker 1: home court advantage, no fans, and teams go in there
Speaker 1: based on what kind of condition they're going to be
Speaker 1: in and what kind of rhythm they can find in
Speaker 1: a short period of time. I get nervous with the
Speaker 1: Rockets because I just don't know if Harden is going
Speaker 1: to give it or take it the way Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: When Westbrook shoots over forty forty two forty five percent,
Speaker 1: that's they win. That he's a dangerous player when he's
Speaker 1: able to shoot well. Now, he's not a good shooter,
Speaker 1: he's a scorer. Harden shoots so much. He's a scorer
Speaker 1: as well, and he's should be a better shooter than
Speaker 1: what he is. But the last two NBA postseasons that
Speaker 1: played under unique circumstances were lockout shortened seasons nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: nine and Michael Jordan in nineteen ninety five when Jordan
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Those two factors made those two seasons feel
Speaker 1: a little bit more up for grabs, according to CBS
Speaker 1: Sports dot Com nineteen ninety nine, but Nicks were an
Speaker 1: eight seed, they made it to the finals. That's the
Speaker 1: only time that ever happened. They lost to the Spurs.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five. The Rockets won the title as a
Speaker 1: number six seed, the only time that that's ever happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Rockets to me are always interesting, but
Speaker 1: they could be really good and really bad. And that
Speaker 1: could be in the same game, same series, same playoffs. Yeah. Point,
Speaker 1: you said a couple of weeks ago that if they
Speaker 1: had shortened series, it would be good for the Rockets
Speaker 1: because again they're a shooting team. If they get a
Speaker 1: couple hot games, that could take away everything. Yep. And
Speaker 1: that's what I don't know. I love you know, it's
Speaker 1: small ball. Remember when the Warriors had their death lineup
Speaker 1: or lineup is that what it was called? Mclem death lineup?
Speaker 1: You know, and the Rockets are going to have a
Speaker 1: starting lineup maybe the tallest players what six six, that's it.
Speaker 1: This is one of those you better adjust to us.
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna to adjust to you a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you have to adjust to us. Yeah, McLeman. I
Speaker 1: think it is underrated how close the Rockets came to
Speaker 1: winning it all. I mean, they had the Warriors on us,
Speaker 1: they did. I think they have the championship kind of DNA,
Speaker 1: but they haven't. This ran into the Warriors. Well, Oklahoma
Speaker 1: City had Golden State on the ropes as well. That's
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, but you know, you've got to
Speaker 1: be a great teams close you out. But the Rockets,
Speaker 1: to me are interesting. I'm always fascinated in watching them.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they can be consistent enough
Speaker 1: to win. Yes, McLeman, So I've been thinking Mannix picked
Speaker 1: the Sixers in the East. Yeah, and a lot of
Speaker 1: my Philly friends have been like they got they can't
Speaker 1: play away from their home stadium. So this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem. I never understood that. Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 1: If you're a pro, you should be able to play
Speaker 1: wherever you go. I mean the basket, the court, the
Speaker 1: dimensions are all the same. But what the great Celtics
Speaker 1: and Lakers teams have dominant at home as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they could travel. The Sixers can't shoot. That's why
Speaker 1: they can't travel. They can't hit a shot. And I
Speaker 1: know that Mannox, who covers the NBA for Sports Illustrated,
Speaker 1: he likes the Sixers because they're a defensive minded team. Well,
Speaker 1: you still have to be able to score, and that's
Speaker 1: still a concern that I have. Are they consistent enough
Speaker 1: to be able to put up enough points? Everybody's putting
Speaker 1: up at least one hundred points? Now, this isn't you
Speaker 1: know the Greco Roman wrestling basketball where you know in
Speaker 1: the nineties with the Knicks, where you know, you get
Speaker 1: to eighty and you first team to eighty would win.
Speaker 1: Everybody's putting up a hundred, one hundred and five. Now
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, will those numbers come down? Yeah, there'll
Speaker 1: be more of a half court offense and defense. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you could look at the Sixers the way
Speaker 1: you do the Rockets. They're kind of unique in their style.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I just have my doubts about
Speaker 1: the chemistry of that team. It just feels like it's
Speaker 1: it's not as smooth as you would want with the
Speaker 1: two star players there. Yeah, point, here's some saucy three
Speaker 1: point stats. The Sixers are the fourteenth best three point
Speaker 1: shooting team in the NBA. They shoot thirty six point
Speaker 1: two percent. The Houston Rockets are the twenty third best
Speaker 1: shooting team in the NBA. They shoot only thirty four
Speaker 1: and a half percent. Now they lead in volume. You know,
Speaker 1: the worst percentage three point shooting team in the NBA
Speaker 1: is take a guess, there's irony around it. I would
Speaker 1: have thought it was the Rockets. The worst percentage is
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. They are the worst three point
Speaker 1: shooting team, tied with Atlanta and the best is the
Speaker 1: Miami Heat. Yeah, but that's the this year. This year,
Speaker 1: and Golden State doesn't have Klay Thompson and they didn't
Speaker 1: have Steph Kurt. How fascinating how different it went. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm club. I was gonna say Dallas because early on
Speaker 1: in the season, did Luca don Check throw up like
Speaker 1: twenty three pointers a game? It's a volume, right, yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dallas is the eighth best three point shooting team in
Speaker 1: this league. I mean Houston's if they're the highest volume,
Speaker 1: that gives them a chance in this too. You guys
Speaker 1: bomb threes? Oh well, I mean they do it, but
Speaker 1: I gotta you have to make them. It's one thing
Speaker 1: that you take them. If you're taking forty four a game,
Speaker 1: you gotta help me out and make maybe eighteen fifteen
Speaker 1: that would be nice. Uh, Jesse and Los Angeles, Hey Jesse,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Hey? Funny, you
Speaker 1: guys just mentioned that. But I was actually at that
Speaker 1: game seven when they missed twenty three straight threes, and
Speaker 1: that was the worst foe I got. I got really
Speaker 1: banged up the second half when it started to collapse
Speaker 1: on the NBA, though, I'm still a bit confused because
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Instagram post came out and there's a play
Speaker 1: tournament for two days, and I thought it was eight games.
Speaker 1: And that leads me to my question. The whole point
Speaker 1: of this is, so I was up in my hometown
Speaker 1: of Sacramento, California this past weekend and it was eating
Speaker 1: at a barbecue play with some of my county friends,
Speaker 1: and of course Kings basketball comes up, and I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: is it time for us to dust off the cowbell? Like,
Speaker 1: are the Kings back in the playoffs or not. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're back in the playoffs. I think they're
Speaker 1: playing to get back into the playoffs. And yeah, more cowbell.
Speaker 1: Forget he's rolling. Can't go wrong with that. More Cowbell. Also,
Speaker 1: PAULI came up with a plan for the teams that
Speaker 1: didn't make it into the pool to play in to
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. And he came up with the
Speaker 1: title of the league. A tournament. It's called the You
Speaker 1: Suck Invitational. We'll talk about that, and the winner gets
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