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Speaker 2: To the fifteen to the ten, Murray's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Swam to the ground by Buddha Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into.

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Speaker 2: The backfield Connor to the ten, to the five, and

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Speaker 4: Here we go, one handed catching a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Oh baby, I'll fail.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grioloud, Paul Calvic and nine year NFL veteran

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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 6: It is often said players make their biggest jump from

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Speaker 6: year one to year two. Does that apply to coaches

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Speaker 6: and specifically head coach Jonathan who was hired one year

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Speaker 6: and one week ago. Yes, you want to see more

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Speaker 6: in the way of wins. Gannon mentioned that after the

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Speaker 6: season ended on his postseason presser, and yes, that's where

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Speaker 6: everyone will look first.

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Speaker 3: How many more.

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Speaker 6: Wins does a head coach get? Because four and thirteen

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Speaker 6: is just not going to cut it.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: But to someone who played the game, Rob, can you

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Speaker 6: see improvements not only on the field, but off the

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Speaker 6: field when it comes to the head coach, the coaching staff,

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Speaker 6: and maybe even the front office as well.

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Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, And you know a player like you mentioned

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Speaker 7: in the opening, the biggest the biggest ascension you see

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Speaker 7: is from that rookie season to the second season. And

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Speaker 7: a lot of that is just due to that that

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Speaker 7: rookie season is both a whirlwind and an eternity at

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Speaker 7: the same time, if that makes sense. I mean, things

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Speaker 7: are happening so fast and so much as being thrown

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Speaker 7: like forever you hit that that rookie wall, everyone hits it.

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Speaker 7: But the best players, the players that that do make

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Speaker 7: that transition and become successful football players, are the ones

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Speaker 7: that in that offseason really understand what it takes to

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Speaker 7: be successful in this league. That's a lot of that

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Speaker 7: has to do with, you know, latching on to a

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Speaker 7: to a veteran and and finding somebody, finding a mentor,

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Speaker 7: and and really learning the ways of the NFL, both

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Speaker 7: in terms of taking care of your body and and

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Speaker 7: also doing some self evaluation. I think the same thing

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Speaker 7: goes for coaches. You know, Jonathan Gannon, I think he

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Speaker 7: did a lot of good things his first season, but

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of things that he's going to look

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Speaker 7: back on and he's going to learn from, and he's

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Speaker 7: going to understand. He's going to look at other coaches,

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Speaker 7: going to reach out to other coaches and and uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, really put together what he what he believes

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Speaker 7: is going to be the set of tools that will

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Speaker 7: best help him be a better coach for this team

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Speaker 7: going forward.

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Speaker 8: Interesting to see Seattle. Seattle's the new Arizona. They get

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Speaker 8: a first time head coach, thirty six years of age,

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Speaker 8: really young, first time coordinators right, first time DC, first

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Speaker 8: sort of replicates what the Cardinals did last offseason with

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Speaker 8: Jonathan Gannon, who there's no doubt established his expectations, really

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Speaker 8: put his culture into the foundation right of this and

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Speaker 8: they had accountability that the owner Michael Bidwill cited in

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Speaker 8: making the coaching change this time just over a year ago.

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Speaker 8: I think we can all agree being around this team

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Speaker 8: and seeing the way they played, that was established that

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Speaker 8: accountability had a friend of mine and his family goes

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Speaker 8: back to season ticket days holding him at Sundeville Stadium

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Speaker 8: from nineteen eighty eight. Okay, and he's a good friend

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Speaker 8: of mine.

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Speaker 3: But he's wrong.

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Speaker 8: He's wrong when he said when he said, you know what,

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Speaker 8: the season would have been perfect if not for the

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia win, because that Philadelphia win costs the Cardinals the

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Speaker 8: number two pick. No, that's the wrong answer, because to

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Speaker 8: when they had the ir of Jonathan Gannon, their former

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Speaker 8: So to me, that was just evidence of what has

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Speaker 6: So much expectations, but a standard. I think this head coach,

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Speaker 6: this coaching staff, they have a standard and we saw it.

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Speaker 3: Rob.

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Speaker 6: If you were not meeting that standard or they don't

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Speaker 6: either not gonna play or you're just not gonna have

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what you have to do. I mean,

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Speaker 7: as Jonathan Gannon did a great job of establishing that standard,

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Speaker 7: changing the culture. You know, not not that it was

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Speaker 7: There needed to be a different compass. There needed to

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Speaker 7: And I think Jonathan Gannon has the team. He didn't

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Speaker 7: lose the team could very well have happened. When you

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Speaker 7: when you have a season like that, when when you're

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Speaker 7: from all that labor, it very easily that that messaging

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Speaker 8: Late in the season, Jonathan Gannon made a comment that

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Speaker 8: it's a hard way to play the way I want

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Speaker 3: It's difficult.

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Speaker 8: Not everybody buys into this sort of you know, mindset

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Speaker 8: and how many times did we say, man, that's a

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Speaker 8: So I think this past season was not just a

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Speaker 8: It was a process throughout the entirety of the season.

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Speaker 8: But when they cut a guy like Marco Wilson going

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Speaker 6: You mentioned buying from day one, Kyler Murray bought in

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Speaker 9: He was here of an interview, chopped it up with

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Speaker 9: got the job, and from that day on it was,

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Speaker 9: you know, it was kind of like, oh, I won't

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Speaker 9: say when you meet your best friend, but that type

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Speaker 9: of like you know that it was instant as far

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Speaker 9: as you know, we kind of speak the same language.

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Speaker 6: And that's big because that connection between a head coach

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Speaker 6: but that connection, that relationship might be the most importance

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Speaker 6: Because this is a quarterback driven league. I've been saying

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Speaker 6: that for years. It's no secret around the league. But

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Speaker 6: you need to have that buy in from your franchise player.

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Speaker 6: In this case it's Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 7: Well you do, and and not only buy in from

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Speaker 7: And there's been tremendous growth from Kyler Murray in that regard.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's he's leaps and bounds different from from

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Speaker 7: terms of just his leadership and maturity and and and

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Speaker 7: for him to accept Jonathan Gannon immediately and to buy

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Speaker 7: into what Jonathan Gannon is selling. Uh to me, that

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Speaker 7: You know, he's in the in there watching film, never

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Speaker 7: done that before. I mean, I haven't seen that in

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Speaker 7: And that's a testament to Jonathan Gannon and to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 8: And Rob is it out of line to say the

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Speaker 8: the quarterback is one A. But then it's the locker

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Speaker 8: Because we've seen in between star quarterbacks with the Cardinals

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Speaker 7: Well it look it can create splinters in that locker

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Speaker 7: keep being put out there. Players players see that you

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Speaker 7: can't you cannot lie to the locker room. They know,

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Speaker 7: they see everything. They see every film, every every play,

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Speaker 7: and that's dissected multiple times. You can't get anything past

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Speaker 7: room to never have lost faith in Kyler Murray, that's

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Speaker 7: that's one, and I don't think that's that's even a discussion.

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Speaker 7: Kyler is is clearly QB one and he's clearly the

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Speaker 7: can't get a lot past the players.

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Speaker 6: We heard from Kyler talking about his connection with Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 6: Here's another player, Trey McBride on The green Light with

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Speaker 6: Chris Long podcast on why he believes JG is the guy.

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Speaker 10: I think just the leadership skills that he brought, what

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Speaker 10: You know, he's set the culture, he's building the culture.

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Speaker 10: He set the standard and he hasn't gone away from that.

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Speaker 10: He's been tremendous. He's a great leader and a guy

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Speaker 2: Where he takes turns and off Connor sprinting to his left,

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Speaker 3: That drive was all about James Connor.

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Speaker 6: Ticket to Great Seats, Craig Realoup, Paul Calvc, and Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 6: Network eleven am on Tuesdays, talking right now about the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, if we went into training camp and this was

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Speaker 6: And don't forget about James Connor catching football, darn near.

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Speaker 8: We got to have those as a baseline part of

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Speaker 6: work earlier in the game. But you use those first

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Speaker 6: quarter runs to set up something in the third or

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Speaker 7: And I gotta tell you, you also give the defense a

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Speaker 7: little rest. And you know those defensive players, a former

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Speaker 7: defensive player, you get over to the sidelines, you get

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Speaker 7: a cup of water, and they're yelling for the punt team. Man,

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Speaker 7: come on, I just got over here. You know, run

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Speaker 7: some clock off a little bit, you know, give us

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Speaker 7: a break. So you know, anytime the offense can do that,

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Speaker 7: anytime you can really control the clock and and limit

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Speaker 7: which is another thing that really doesn't get talked about enough,

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Speaker 7: but limit the number of possessions that the other team gets.

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Speaker 7: That that's doing a lot. And and even if the

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Speaker 7: even if the drive isn't ultimately successful, at least you're

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Speaker 7: you're chewing up clock, you're you're limiting possessions, and you're

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Speaker 7: giving that defense some break.

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Speaker 8: Rob Why is it that the defense reacts with such

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Speaker 8: splendor to to their own team at a running back,

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Speaker 8: making either a dB look stupid or plowing through a defender,

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Speaker 8: blowing someone up. I mean, I can go back two

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Speaker 8: decades when Beanie Wells used to just destroy a guy,

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Speaker 8: when Edra and James used to do that. Now it's

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Speaker 8: James Connor. But it's amazing how fire up their defensive

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Speaker 8: guys get when they're watching up on the Jumbo Tron

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Speaker 8: and one of their own running backs blows up an

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Speaker 8: opposing defender. Why is that? Why did they react with

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Speaker 8: such with such splendor to that.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think I think running backs it's a kindred spirit, right.

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Speaker 7: I think a running back is a lot like a

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Speaker 7: defensive player in terms of mentality. So they you know,

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Speaker 7: they they they naturally are gravity gravitated towards running backs.

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Speaker 7: But two, I think they like to see our own

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Speaker 7: running back player. At defensive players, we like to see

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Speaker 7: our own running back make some other guys look foolish

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Speaker 7: because you know, we're out there and sometimes we get

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Speaker 7: put in that position. So as a defender, you like

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Speaker 7: to see your your running back have success and and

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Speaker 7: to sometimes either run over or juke a defender and

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Speaker 7: make them look a little silly.

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Speaker 8: Because that Philly game you mentioned, the one handed catch, right,

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Speaker 8: I mean, the whole sidelin just went banana is the

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Speaker 8: one handed catch by James Connor in the back of

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Speaker 8: the end zone. The other one was the Michael Carter

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Speaker 8: where he broke the ankles of the dB. We're in Philly.

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Speaker 8: That was like Alan Iverson esque with one of those crossovers.

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Speaker 8: That's what Michael Carter did that.

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Speaker 3: And guys just ate that up.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of Michael Carter, Autrey Dentson last week on The

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Speaker 6: Big Red Rage on what he thinks about Carter.

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Speaker 11: Michael Carter has a passion for playing the game, and

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Speaker 11: when you watch him, he's fun to watch because he's

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Speaker 11: having fun. And so one of the things I did

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Speaker 11: for the guys, I don't want to say this is

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Speaker 11: I got him a frame pitcher, each of them. Just

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Speaker 11: something to remember and my wife. The first thing that

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Speaker 11: jumps out on him is as he's running, he has

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Speaker 11: a smile so big on his face, and so it's

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Speaker 11: funny that that is Mike. He smiles and plays like

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Speaker 11: during the game. He is smiling as he is playing,

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Speaker 11: and that's just his passion for the game.

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Speaker 6: The voice of Autrey Dnson, Cardinals running backs coach I

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Speaker 6: guess last week on The Big Red Rage. Go to

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Speaker 6: the archives to hear the full interview because coach Dentson

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Speaker 6: is very good at what he does. In a great

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Speaker 6: conversation Paul You and Ron Woofully had with him last week,

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Speaker 6: and he's not lying. Carter always had a smile on

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Speaker 6: his face, especially since leaving the New York Jets. I

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Speaker 6: think he has found a home here in Arizona. Mentioned

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Speaker 6: the day after the season that he was planning on

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Speaker 6: staying here throughout the entire offseason. He likes being here.

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Speaker 6: He was given opportunities here. Almost averaged seven yards a

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Speaker 6: carry in the six games that he played, and that

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Speaker 6: does give the Cardinals a nice one two punch kind

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Speaker 6: of that power versus the speed. Although if you talk

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Speaker 6: to both of them, they kind of talk. To Carter,

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Speaker 6: he says, hey, I can run like James Connor, just

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Speaker 6: not as big as James Connor.

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Speaker 8: And he had a great career at North Carolina, and

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Speaker 8: he was highly thought of with the Jets. But then

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Speaker 8: with the Jets and the dysfunction and he fell down

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Speaker 8: the depth chart, and then it was sort of a

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Speaker 8: mutual thing. He wanted playing time and opportunity elsewhere. And

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Speaker 8: I still remember he showed up in Arizona. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 8: my travel day yesterday. It's one of the few days

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Speaker 8: in the last decade where I didn't actually practice football

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Speaker 8: Like he is all in.

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Speaker 3: He's a complete baller.

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Speaker 8: So to hear that he had a smile on his face,

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Speaker 8: because that's the dude in the locker room. He walks around,

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Speaker 8: he needles guys, he's always floating around and he's having conversations.

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Speaker 8: He never stops talking on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: He's that way. He's an energy guy.

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Speaker 8: But have a smile on your face while running the

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Speaker 8: football in an NFL game, that is next level.

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Speaker 6: Have you ever spotted or seen that, Rob, as you're

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Speaker 6: trying to tackle a ball carrier and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: they just got this big grin like they know something

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Speaker 6: that you don't.

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Speaker 7: No, I've never seen that. I would like to know

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Speaker 7: what Paul's face is on the sideline, Reporter, I'm guessing.

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Speaker 7: I'm guessing pensive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're telling me that when Barry Sanders was shaking

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Speaker 8: you down, Rob in the open field, he wasn't smiling.

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Speaker 8: He didn't give you a rye smiles. Boom he gave

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Speaker 8: you the dead leg, and then boom, he was gone.

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Speaker 7: I was just looking at a face full of sod

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Speaker 7: from my helmet being in the grass after he juked me.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, man?

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Speaker 10: Doing good?

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Speaker 4: Congratulations, appreciate you coming here, deny the ball or what?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know it?

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Speaker 4: How you doing? This is mantiyos support from the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Get there, What what are you doing? Where are you at?

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna salad, man, I'm gonna fall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got some people around you? You hang Who are

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Speaker 4: you hanging out with?

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Speaker 5: My family?

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Speaker 2: My friends?

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Speaker 9: All that?

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Speaker 4: Man? You got your family and your friends.

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Speaker 12: Well, guess what you're about to tell.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be an Arizona Cardinal buddy.

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Speaker 10: Yes, let's do it, man, let's do it.

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Speaker 12: We are we are excited that we're gonna get you

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Speaker 12: in here. You remember you remember that meeting we have.

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Speaker 12: What do you get to combine the man you're made

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Speaker 12: of the stuff that we're looking for but.

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Speaker 13: With the seven second pick into twoenty twenty three NFL Draft,

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Speaker 13: the Arizona Cardinals select Garrett Williams, defensive back.

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Speaker 6: Syracuse never get tired of listening to those draft calls.

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Speaker 6: You heard Jonathan Gannon Monty Austin Ford speaking with Garrett Williams,

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Speaker 6: the third round draft pick out of Syracuse University, the

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Speaker 6: seventy second overall pick. And yes, we are officially now

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Speaker 6: into the offseason where the EA Scouting Combine begins one

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Speaker 6: week from today and then the course free agency and

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Speaker 6: the draft. But this is now where players you talked

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Speaker 6: about it earlier, how long of a season it is

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Speaker 6: for those juniors and seniors in college who declare get drafted.

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Speaker 6: There is no downtime because now you're prepping for interviews,

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Speaker 6: you're prepping for individual drills. It's interview and it begins

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 7: It's the biggest job interview of your life. And and

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Speaker 7: for these guys that are lucky enough to be invited

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Speaker 7: to the combine, this is their chance to shine. And

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Speaker 7: it's it's not just on the field. You know, you

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Speaker 7: see that on on the television, you see them running

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Speaker 7: and doing the drills, but more of it is done

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Speaker 7: in the hotel lobby and and in the conference rooms

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Speaker 7: and in the meeting rooms with the coaches and the

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Speaker 7: general managers players. Uh, you know, going in there for

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Speaker 7: one on one and and discussing. Maybe maybe it's it's

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Speaker 7: breaking down, you know what, what offense or defense? Walk

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Speaker 7: me through a play, draw it up for me on

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Speaker 7: the grease board, talk me. Talk to me about the philosophies,

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Speaker 7: the offensive and defensive philosophies that they had in college.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: So there's a lot that goes into it from the

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Speaker 7: mental aspect. But for me, uh, when I went to

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Speaker 7: the combine, the hardest thing I think was was the physical.

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Speaker 7: That it's an entire day of medical You're basically going

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Speaker 7: from team doctor to team doctor to team doctor, thirty

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Speaker 7: two of them, and and if if anything is questionable

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Speaker 7: in their minds, you're going to the hospital. You're going

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Speaker 7: or you're going to the imaging exam and and you're

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Speaker 7: going to get I mean, I I made the mistake

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Speaker 7: of being honest at the combine. With the physical, I

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Speaker 7: made the mistake of being honest. I'm the one guy

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Speaker 7: that said have you ever had They said, have you

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Speaker 7: ever had any neck issues? Well, well, I did get

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Speaker 7: a stinger. I was getting stingers my whole career, you know,

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Speaker 7: in college even, but I did say I did have

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Speaker 7: one stinger. Well, red flag, MRI, C, T FD, I C, I,

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Speaker 7: A de aver, every acronym you can think of. I

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Speaker 7: spent the entire day at an imaging lab. I think

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Speaker 7: I still got frequent flyer miles from the imaging lamp.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, you cannot. You know, somebody's got to

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Speaker 7: school these these kids. Somebody's got to get with them

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Speaker 7: and tell them, do not say anything, Do not say

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Speaker 7: anything negative about your health.

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Speaker 6: It's become information gathering and any little thing because you

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Speaker 6: can see it on tape. But now you're getting to

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Speaker 6: know the person behind what you see on tape, and

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Speaker 6: questions get asked, and now all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 6: background research on every single prospect. By the way, three

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Speaker 6: hundred and twenty one prospects invited to this year's upcoming

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Speaker 6: scouting combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's the known and the unknown.

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Speaker 8: So the town evaluators they can see the film, they

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Speaker 8: can assess what sort of player you are. Between the

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Speaker 8: white lines. They have the measurables. Okay, is he equipped?

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Speaker 8: Does he have the skill set, but what's the mind

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Speaker 8: all about? What's the heart all about? Hear it said

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Speaker 8: a lot. You know, you miss more often on the person,

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Speaker 8: on the human than you do the player. So they're

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Speaker 8: trying to assess that. Obviously, it's highly subjective in today's world.

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Speaker 8: So many of these prospects are coached up. I mean, Rob,

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Speaker 8: where was your agent in this? You should have coached

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Speaker 8: you up. You should have had you know, you should

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Speaker 8: have a prepared answer to every single question. You know,

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Speaker 8: it should have been like, you know, across examination, you

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Speaker 8: should have been ready to go on the witness chair.

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Speaker 7: He's fired, you know, you know back then, back in

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Speaker 7: nineteen ninety three, well it was yeah, ninety four, uh

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Speaker 7: there there there, This was before the internet, Paul, if

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Speaker 7: you can imagine that, okay, ourselves here, Okay, So it

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Speaker 7: wasn't like you could just go to a link and

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Speaker 7: and look at all the drills that they ask you

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Speaker 7: to do at the combine. You had nobody really knew.

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Speaker 7: Nobody knew how to prepare for it back then. So

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Speaker 7: I was lucky enough to have, you know, have somebody

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Speaker 7: that that knew the drills, and and so we you know,

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Speaker 7: we'd practice them, and but back then it was you're

655
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Speaker 7: going into that really blind. So uh, but they got

656
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Speaker 7: it dialed in now. They have of fitness centers now

657
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Speaker 7: that are devoted specifically to combine type type exercises and drills,

658
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Speaker 7: and so the players are all well tuned in terms

659
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Speaker 7: of what is expected of them.

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Speaker 8: But you heard maniasin Ford at the end of that

661
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Speaker 8: clip site the meeting, the one on one, the fifteen

662
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Speaker 8: minute meeting the Cardinals decision makers had with Garrett Williams

663
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Speaker 8: at last year's Combine, and Garrett Williams mentioned that on

664
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Speaker 8: a big red rage we had him on this year.

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Speaker 3: So I followed up.

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Speaker 8: A few days ago Jonathan Gannon maniasin Fort met Cardinals

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Speaker 8: fans at an event and I asked Mani about that meeting,

668
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Speaker 8: what was it? And Jonathan Gannon actually chimed in as well.

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Speaker 8: It was at the end of a very long day

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Speaker 8: at the combine, so they had done like one hundred

671
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Speaker 8: interviews that day. They're dragon, they need something to eat,

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Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden, the very last interview

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Speaker 8: of the day at ten at night was Garrett Williams,

674
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Speaker 8: and he came in and he wowed them. He said,

675
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Speaker 8: both of them got up to the edge of their seat.

676
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Speaker 8: They were like, Wow, where'd this kid come from? And

677
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Speaker 8: then all that he's really engaged was really intense. He

678
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Speaker 8: was really thoughtful, high IQ, knew the game, wanted to

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Speaker 8: know more from them. He was asking them questions. By

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Speaker 8: the end of the fifteen minutes, he left the room

681
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Speaker 8: and Jonathan Gannon and Maniasis Ward. According to what they

682
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Speaker 8: told the fans looked at you andach others head. We

683
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Speaker 8: got to try and get that guy because they already

684
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Speaker 8: knew about him as a player, and when they found

685
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Speaker 8: out about him as a person, it clinched the decision

686
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Speaker 8: that if he was available at the right spot in

687
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Speaker 8: the draft, boom, they were going to pull the trigger.

688
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Speaker 8: And that's exactly what they.

689
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Speaker 6: Did, and they did it with the seventy second overall

690
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Speaker 6: pick and the third round. The importance of the combine,

691
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Speaker 6: Let's take you back to last year's combine. GM Mani

692
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Speaker 6: Austin Ford on why the combine is so important.

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Speaker 14: The most important thing is the medical evaluations and having

694
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Speaker 14: our doctors and having our trainers getting a chance to

695
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Speaker 14: examine the players and just finding out where they are physically,

696
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Speaker 14: and really the second most important thing that I get

697
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Speaker 14: out of this is the face to FaceTime when we

698
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Speaker 14: interview with the players, both in the formal settings and

699
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Speaker 14: the informal meetings our coaches are doing. And then we'll

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Speaker 14: get into the workouts as well. Those are important, but

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Speaker 14: I'd put the medical in the interviews up above the

702
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Speaker 14: on field workouts.

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Speaker 6: By the way, speaking of the on field workouts, some

704
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Speaker 6: thirty years ago, Rob Frederickson at the nineteen ninety four

705
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Speaker 6: Combine ran a four six nine forty.

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Speaker 3: Four six three four six three.

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Speaker 7: We'll go with that.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Someone, yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 6: Slower on the stopwatch, It's fine, okay.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's six three two forty two. I mean

712
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Speaker 8: he's moving thirty five inch vertical. By the way, these

713
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Speaker 8: are numbers that you could still like if we just

714
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Speaker 8: behind you at the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals training Center

715
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Speaker 8: of the fields outside Rob, you'd run a four to

716
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Speaker 8: six and jump thirty five inches, right, you can still

717
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Speaker 8: pull that off.

718
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Speaker 7: No, I couldn't jump over this piece of paper.

719
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Speaker 8: It's pretty good, though, thirty five inch vertical at your size.

720
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Speaker 8: So did you rip off some dunks in high school basketball?

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Speaker 5: I did.

722
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Speaker 7: I could dunk anywhere I wanted to. But you know,

723
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Speaker 7: the one thing about the combined and the physical aspect

724
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Speaker 7: of it, and the drill and these measurables, they're all great,

725
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Speaker 7: and you're right, Moni, Moni's right. You know, probably the

726
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Speaker 7: most important is the physical, the medical side, and then

727
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Speaker 7: the interview is getting to know the player, what he's

728
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Speaker 7: all about, what makes them tick. You know, you can

729
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Speaker 7: you can jump thirty five inches, but if you can't

730
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Speaker 7: make a tackle, what good are you? You know, So

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Speaker 7: really more than anything, more than more, even more than

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Speaker 7: the physical and more than the interview, it's really about

733
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Speaker 7: assessing the player. How does he play football? That's kind

734
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Speaker 7: of what we're all here for. It's football, and so

735
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Speaker 7: that to me is the most important. That's that means

736
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Speaker 7: going through every every piece of film you've had for

737
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Speaker 7: him for however many years he's been in college, making

738
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Speaker 7: visits to practice during the season, your area scouts, maybe

739
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Speaker 7: maybe your GM, I know GM probably wouldn't be able

740
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Speaker 7: to get to schools, but certainly your area scouts getting

741
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Speaker 7: in there and watching these guys and how they interact

742
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Speaker 7: and how they play and how they practice.

743
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Speaker 6: Yeah, some of these drills, I mean offensive lineman I

744
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Speaker 6: don't care how fast they run. The forty quarterbacks running

745
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Speaker 6: at forty and remember you're doing all these drills without

746
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Speaker 6: pads on.

747
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it still comes down to can you play? Look

749
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Speaker 8: at Pooka Nakua, fifth round pick this past year. Can

750
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Speaker 8: you play? Was he great in the combine?

751
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Speaker 3: No?

752
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Speaker 8: But he certainly had enough size, had enough physicality. He

753
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Speaker 8: certainly made a lot of DB's look stupid.

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Speaker 3: I'm on Ross.

755
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Speaker 8: Saint Brown got named to the All Pro Team this year.

756
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Speaker 8: Fourth round pick a few years ago said he can

757
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Speaker 8: name all sixteen receivers drafted ahead of them. Do you

758
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Speaker 8: looking for guys who can play ultimately?

759
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Speaker 6: And do they have the passion for the game to

760
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Speaker 6: match that talent? Scout in combine one week from today,

761
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Speaker 6: the drafts in April, but in between you got free agency.

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Speaker 6: We'll touch on that as we continue. It's the Cardinals

763
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Speaker 6: Red Sea Report on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network.

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Speaker 3: You look the punt high in the air, far side.

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Speaker 2: It bounces at the five and the Cardinals down at

766
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Speaker 2: at the three. Great punt. Gillickin put it on an island.

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Speaker 2: Where's the skipper, Ginger, Mary Anne?

768
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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Gilligan what a perfect punt man. Once again,

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Speaker 5: you give me a punter, baby, you give me a

770
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Speaker 5: punter or a defense, and I'll be in every game.

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Speaker 6: The Cardinals did have a very good punter, and Blake

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Speaker 6: Gillikin not gill again dating ourselves. They patron woefully on

773
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Speaker 6: that play call. But hey, a solid, solid comedy back

774
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Speaker 6: in the day.

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Speaker 8: What's ironical is that I got in this morning and

776
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Speaker 8: on Twitter Gilligan's Island was trending. I still have no

777
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Speaker 8: idea why there's one saying I guess that's popular on

778
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Speaker 8: Gilligan's Island. They listened to the professor, not the millionaire,

779
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Speaker 8: meaning the eye Q. You know they so, you know what,

780
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Speaker 8: it's better to be smart than necessarily loaded, especially in times.

781
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Speaker 3: Of duress when you need followers.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 8: So, but yeah, I have no idea why it's tring,

784
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Speaker 8: no clue.

785
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Speaker 7: How long do you think Dave pash took to come

786
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Speaker 7: up with that.

787
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Speaker 4: He was waiting.

788
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Speaker 3: He was just waiting to say that that's true.

789
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he probably had that written down on his spotting board.

790
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Speaker 8: You know, he probably cheated. He had a little tell

791
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Speaker 8: prompter going.

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Speaker 6: Gillikin set a franchise record averaging fifty point six yards

793
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Speaker 6: per punt, which was third in the league. And why

794
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Speaker 6: are we talking about the punter, Well, besides the fact

795
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Speaker 6: that it's Paul's favorite position.

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Speaker 8: To discuss in the offseas, No, it's Wolf and John Bloom.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Gillikin is an unrestricted free agent. In fact, he's won

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Speaker 6: a seventeen the Cardinals have, whether that's defense, offense, or

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Speaker 6: special teams. Aaron Brewer also an unrestricted free agent. Now,

801
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: the Cardinals can sign any one of their own unrestricted

802
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 6: free agents before the new league begins.

803
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Speaker 3: On March thirteenth. That that happened, who knows.

804
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Speaker 6: But there are a handful of players rob that I

805
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Speaker 6: think the Cardinals would like back, probably more rotation pieces,

806
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Speaker 6: especially along the defensive front. And then the biggest name

807
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Speaker 6: that's unrestricted to be is Hollywood Brown. I'm not sure

808
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Speaker 6: his future with the Cardinals or elsewhere, but he did

809
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Speaker 6: not have a great season statistically. Though you talk to him,

810
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Speaker 6: which we did towards the end of the season, he's

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Speaker 6: pleased with what he put on tape. That connection between

812
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Speaker 6: quarterback just sometimes wasn't always there, whether it was first

813
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Speaker 6: with Josh Dobbs and then later with Kyler Murray. Those

814
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Speaker 6: quarterback and receiver just never could quite get on the

815
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Speaker 6: same page often enough for Hollywood Brown this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, looking at looking at the Arizona Cardinals unrestricted free agents,

817
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Speaker 7: you know there's there's some names on here. Obviously, Hollywood

818
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Speaker 7: Brown jumps out at you. That's that's that's the big name.

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Speaker 7: He talked about Blake gillickin you you know, that's that's

820
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Speaker 7: a punter that's important. And Wolf mentioned it. You know,

821
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Speaker 7: you punter in a defense that can bail out your

822
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Speaker 7: team him a lot if you if you really can

823
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Speaker 7: flip the field and change the positioning of the of

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Speaker 7: the game. So punter is important. But looking at this list,

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Speaker 7: and this is no indictment on these players, but you know,

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Speaker 7: kind of maybe subout Hollywood Brown. This is this is

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Speaker 7: a list of of depth guys for the most part,

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Speaker 7: and and they're important. They're the backbone of the team.

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Speaker 7: You know. I look at guys like like Ezekiel Turner.

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Speaker 7: I want that guy back bad, you know. I love

831
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Speaker 7: guys like that on special teams. And he can he

832
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Speaker 7: can play some good linebacker too when when needed. So

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Speaker 7: there there, there there are some guys in here that

834
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Speaker 7: that have played significant you know, Elijah Wilkinson starter, you know.

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Speaker 7: But but by and large, these are these are depth

836
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Speaker 7: guys and guys that, yeah, you want, you want to

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Speaker 7: sign them back. But I think that that looking at

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Speaker 7: this these are guys that you're gonna allow to to

839
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Speaker 7: go step out and and to go have a look

840
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Speaker 7: around and and to see what's out there in terms

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Speaker 7: of you know, what the market is, and allow them

842
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Speaker 7: to go do that, and you know, if they come

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Speaker 7: back and you're able to get to an agreement find

844
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Speaker 7: But I don't think the Cardinals are in a position

845
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Speaker 7: or a desire to reach on some guys at this point.

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 7: I really think they're going to allow these guys to

847
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Speaker 7: go out and explore free agency and see what the

848
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: market is, and the Cardinals are gonna keep things kind

849
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Speaker 7: of close to the vest.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's two guys that didn't make it out

851
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Speaker 8: of September, but they really flashed earlier in the year.

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Speaker 3: That's LJ. Collier and Carlos Watkins.

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Speaker 8: And that's probably your biggest position group of need you

854
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 8: need numbers, you need depth. I'd love to see those

855
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Speaker 8: two guys back in a similar situation another one year

856
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Speaker 8: prove a deal. Let's see what they have in camp,

857
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 8: see what they look like in August. Bring those guys in.

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00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 8: Antonio Hamilton at the end of the year was your

859
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Speaker 8: best corner. Now in an ideal situation, he's your third

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Speaker 8: or fourth corner corner. He's your nickel or dime guy.

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Speaker 8: But he's so versatile, he has good size, great leader,

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Speaker 8: I mean as the perfect mentality, always competing, and so

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Speaker 8: I'd love to see Antonio Hamilton back in some capacity.

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Speaker 8: And then you also have, you know, Aaron Brewer, the

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Speaker 8: fact that you never said his name once all year,

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Speaker 8: and that's the biggest compliment you can pay a long snapper.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know what his future is exactly. All

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Speaker 8: I know is he's beyond steady. And the one year

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Speaker 8: twenty seventeen when the Cardinals went from a veteran to

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Speaker 8: a rookie long snapper, that was an adventure and they

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Speaker 8: had to go back to a veteran midseason.

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Speaker 4: A couple other.

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Speaker 6: Names, Chris Barnes, Josh Woods, two inside linebackers. I was

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Speaker 6: a position that there was some emphasis put on in

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Speaker 6: the offseason, along with Kaizier White and then Jeff Swain

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Speaker 6: in that tight end room.

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Speaker 3: A veteran.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're looking for a pass catcher, but

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Speaker 6: someone who can block it and provide some veteran leadership

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Speaker 6: with a Trey McBride and everyone else in that room.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the young guys called him coach Swain. Okay, thirty

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Speaker 8: year old in there, been there, done that, and in

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Speaker 8: this offense where the tight end, multiple tight end sets

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Speaker 8: and you're expected to block, he's still that guy. He

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Speaker 8: can still more than hold his own at the point

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Speaker 8: and even at times we saw him as the third

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Speaker 8: or fourth receiving option, and he has sure enough hands

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Speaker 8: to keep a defense on us. So you need numbers

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Speaker 8: at tight end, and if Swaym is back, I think

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Speaker 8: that's definitely a plus for that room.

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Speaker 6: The front seven, though, for me, Rob is where I

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Speaker 6: do think dollars need to be spent, and it's a

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Speaker 6: conversation we can have multiple times this offseason. But getting

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Speaker 6: to the quarterback, this Cardinals team did not have success

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Speaker 6: late in the year, whether that's on the defensive line

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Speaker 6: or an edge rusher, that's where this defense really needs

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Speaker 6: an upgrade.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and if you kind of follow the old Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: Eagles model from Jonathan Gannon where he came from is

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Speaker 7: That's where they built the team from the inside out.

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Speaker 7: So defensive line, interior, defensive line, edge rushers creating pressure

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Speaker 7: on the quarterback. That to me is really where this

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Speaker 7: defense will look to.

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Speaker 3: First games are over.

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Speaker 6: Now it's about the roster and constructing a roster for

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four special Thanks everyone behind the scenes. Jim Onmehundro,

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Speaker 6: Cody Fincher, Alan Narini for Rob Frederickson, Paul Calvic. I'm

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Speaker 6: Craig Raylou. This has been the Cardinals Red Sea Report

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Speaker 6: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: a Baker with the sacked strip the ball where he's

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Speaker 2: gonna score touchdown?

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