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Speaker 1: Celebrity Book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity

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Speaker 1: Book Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 1: No boys are alloud. Celebrity book say it loud and

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Speaker 1: cloud Celebrity Book Club. Buzz man. I brought the queer foe.

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Speaker 1: Oh here are you? Um? Hey, what's up. I'm Lily.

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty one. I'm a junior at FIDOM. Hi. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm Steven. Um. I'm actually twenty two and a half.

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Speaker 1: I'm as senior at the San Diego School of Art, Design,

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Speaker 1: Merchandising and Jewelry Consumption. Um. And I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: be here. I'm so excited. This is so fun. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited for the semester abroad in New York City. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. I was told that it was going to

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Speaker 1: be really dangerous coming New York because I've addicted to shopping.

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Speaker 1: Um and you know at call her me guilty. I

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Speaker 1: have some tips for you about shopping. Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's get into that in a minute. Totally. Um okay,

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Speaker 1: let's just get into this. This week we did I

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Speaker 1: think one of the funniest books we've ever read, What's

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Speaker 1: Insane fuck Ever was not prepared. No, we of course

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Speaker 1: are talking about Lauren Conrad of Laguna Beach and the

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Speaker 1: Hills reality star and also authors of several fiction books. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: New York Times number one bestseller of la Candy set

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Speaker 1: her novel Yeah to a Sea of novels, and this

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Speaker 1: has memoir elements to it, of course, which we'll get into.

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Speaker 1: It's called style, the simple word style, and that really

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Speaker 1: goes to everything from hair to genes, to makeup to

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Speaker 1: to say to your taylor, what do say to your

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Speaker 1: personal shop or how salespeople can be your secret weapon

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Speaker 1: when you go to a department store, what to pack,

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Speaker 1: how to travel? I would say first impression from this

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Speaker 1: just be like some necklaces are tighter than others, Like

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Speaker 1: you're shopping. I'm like, what one of my ultimate favorites

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Speaker 1: easier than packing for winter because closed in summer are

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Speaker 1: more lightweight than winter clothes. Yeah. No, I mean the

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Speaker 1: way that my jaw hit the floor at that revelation.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the stuff. You're like, yeah, true, baby, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not argue with finding a good taylor finding a

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Speaker 1: so this book is called style. I would say this

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Speaker 1: book is really a lot more about shopping than style

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Speaker 1: and how to navigate online shopping, which I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: mean there's an interesting like this book captures, I think,

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Speaker 1: a conservatism, conservatismsm that Lauren definitely has in her personal style,

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Speaker 1: a book, because a book lets you take your time

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Speaker 1: with the words exactly. If that had been a documentary,

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Speaker 1: And she's like, originally in jeans were like made for workwear,

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Speaker 1: gives a lot of people heart palpitations. Make sure that

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Speaker 1: talking about like totally eighties women that wear big Nike

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Speaker 1: you know, a really interesting accessory, which at one point

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Speaker 1: she says, if you ask women what they really love

425
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Speaker 1: to shop for, nine out of ten will say accessories.

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Speaker 1: Just the phrase accessories is also so twenty ten. I know, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess accessories has been around for a while.

428
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Speaker 1: But just like, I mean, accessories still exist, I know

429
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Speaker 1: they do. But like our girls being like, oh, Chico,

430
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Speaker 1: let's go shop, No, that's true. No one has ever

431
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Speaker 1: been like a talking about the accessories categorious so that

432
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Speaker 1: you would go shopping for unless I mean, if you're

433
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Speaker 1: on a website and you might look through accessories if

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Speaker 1: you do do want a specific item. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're writing our own sort of points to this mention sunglasses.

436
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Speaker 1: That was psycho. That was also very twenty ten to

437
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Speaker 1: not mention sunglasses because I feel like sunglasses are so

438
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: influencer now. But she because she uses a whole section

439
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Speaker 1: on belts where she's like, belts are amazing, the wider,

440
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: the better like belt, everything belt, every tank belt, every

441
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: like scrunched, layered Gaussie and I feel like that era

442
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: oh oh no, I guess not night oh five, which

443
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: is when I was like dipping my toe into feminine wear.

444
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: And like my senior graduation dress I got. I wore

445
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Speaker 1: this like LBD from Jasmine Solo, which is like the

446
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Speaker 1: most like LC store that was in Boston so it's

447
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Speaker 1: now closed. Um. It was like the store for like

448
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: flats and tops, um. And I wore a huge gold

449
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Speaker 1: belt with it that was like this big white belt.

450
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm Do you remember that belt?

451
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Speaker 1: I literally isn't that what you worked? Then? Ntok it

452
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Speaker 1: EIDs gala, Oh, I guess you wore that black jasmine

453
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Speaker 1: soil address in the in the gold belt, I'm the

454
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Speaker 1: gold belt and then I redid that Sam looked for

455
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Speaker 1: I guess for graduation. It's sad. I mean I just

456
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Speaker 1: picture and then your hair and like your bouffont like

457
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Speaker 1: with the dress. I mean you were so it was

458
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Speaker 1: so HR director, like at the off the office Christmas

459
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Speaker 1: party and you're just like Hi, Hi, it's me, It's Marian, Hi,

460
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Speaker 1: how are you? And You're like, wow, this HR director

461
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Speaker 1: could really like let lose Okay, wait, this is so

462
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Speaker 1: I found this line that I referenced earlier, where she

463
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Speaker 1: gets really political. The one thing I strongly believe should

464
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Speaker 1: not cost a fortune are layering tops. So I can

465
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Speaker 1: often be found in that section of H and M

466
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Speaker 1: or Forever twenty one stalking up on tanks and shirts

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Speaker 1: made from synthetic fabrics like Rayon or Modal. Okay, you've always,

468
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Speaker 1: you told me once actually amazing fashion advice, which because

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Speaker 1: sometimes your fashion advice. Look, we all say crazy things,

470
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Speaker 1: all right, My fashion advice is the way sacrosanct. But okay,

471
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Speaker 1: go on, okay, but sometimes you say insane things, miss kimono. Um,

472
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you say amazing things. And you said to me,

473
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Speaker 1: only buy like cheap button downs or like cheap fabrics

474
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Speaker 1: like ryon in a funky print, because like you can

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Speaker 1: tell less. And it was like I went to the

476
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Speaker 1: Primark in Downtown Crossing and I bought this snake skin

477
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Speaker 1: ray on Buttondown for twelve dollars that I get compliments

478
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Speaker 1: on all the time. But there are times where I've

479
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Speaker 1: been trying to buy like white button downs, like serious

480
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: classics of your wardrobe, and tried to buy it at

481
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: places like that, and then they look so wrinkly and

482
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: so bad, and it's like that is genius advice on

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Speaker 1: has a part where she's talking about sweaters, and this

516
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Speaker 1: is the quote, whether they're warrant the airport with leggings

517
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Speaker 1: or layout over a sun dress. I love sweaters. I

518
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Speaker 1: feel like the connection of being like, oh sweaters, yeah,

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00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: they're so airport. It's like so christ and Calvalary, like

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00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: this is an amazing potato suflated make when you're wearing

521
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: a ponytail. It's like this psycho like Laguna synthesia where

522
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: they're just like connecting one idea to another vibe. But

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Speaker 1: that's just like what, Yeah, I don't know how smart

524
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: these two girls are, but it's just being like sweat.

525
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Speaker 1: But maybe it is because they are from California. Is

526
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Speaker 1: they're needing a reason to like wear sweaters right? Well,

527
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: and planes are famously cold. Well okay, but then she

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: has that whole part where she's like, planes do get cold,

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Speaker 1: so bring a Cashmere square. You're like, what on earth

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Speaker 1: you time about? What does a Kashmere square? Oh? Wait?

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Speaker 1: The part where she was like I got burned by

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Speaker 1: wait what did she say? That was so crazy. She

533
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: was like, I brought a Cashmere square and then she

534
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: was like, but you'll never see me at the airport

535
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: with a pillow and a quilt it. So this is

536
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: in flight essentials. I've heard a lot of horror stories

537
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: about on flight blankets. What and since I'm always likely

538
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: to require one, air lines are called I try to

539
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: bring my own. What the fuck are the horror stories

540
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: about on flight blankets? I cannot even imagine what a

541
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: horror story about an onflight blanket could be like what

542
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: you get this like because a they're always like presealed

543
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: in plastic. It's like you get an on flight blanket

544
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: and there's like some comm stain on it. Like, I'm

545
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: sure that's not what she's referring to. There's nothing remotely

546
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: scandal it's in this book. Okay, wait, can we just

547
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: read some of her packing lists? Okay, this is for

548
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, can we do work trip three days? Yeah? Okay,

549
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Speaker 1: create a capsule wardrobe by creeping everything monochromatic, and don't

550
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Speaker 1: stress too much. If something comes up when your trip

551
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Speaker 1: is extended, you'll likely be able to buy what you

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Speaker 1: needble on the road. Chances are you'll be in a

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Speaker 1: well supplied city. I know the cities as well supplied.

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Speaker 1: Chances are if you are in a work trip, the

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Speaker 1: city will be well supplied with things like trenches, jackets,

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Speaker 1: light jackets, sweats, Like I know you're probably going to

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Speaker 1: like a regional trench cap such as Austin, Denver, Seattle.

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00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: It's like, well, knowing her demo that she's probably right

559
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: that she goes one night trench coat kaki, navy or black. Ideally,

560
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: there's also a waterproof, though if you hit rain, there's

561
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: probably an umbrella stand nearby. Lauren Conrad's tips. If it rains,

562
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Speaker 1: get an umbrella. One pair of black pants, well fitting

563
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: in hem to work with flats. She loves white shirts,

564
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: but this is my favorite part. One pair of jeans

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Speaker 1: parenthes for non work dinners with friends. Non work dinners

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Speaker 1: with friends. On this business trip, you're seeing friends who

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Speaker 1: haven't seen in a while, who happened to live in Denver,

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00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: probably going well supplied city, and it's a chance to

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Speaker 1: see friends that maybe have moved to other well supplied cities,

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Speaker 1: let's say Chicago, which is very cavalery to be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm opening a UJ, but now I get to catch

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00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: up with all my mom friends over sushi. Okay, you

573
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: were just talking about the IQ of our too, of

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Speaker 1: her ladies. As we savagely criticize women on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: I do feel like Kristen is actually quite a bit

576
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Speaker 1: brighter of a bulb than Elsie. Like as dumb as

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Speaker 1: Kristen's book is and it doesn't make any sense like

578
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Speaker 1: I do just get from watching her show and my

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Speaker 1: current kind of energy, I feel like Kristen has is

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Speaker 1: a little bit more self aware. It's so funny you

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Speaker 1: say that, because I was like, wait a second. I

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Speaker 1: was like, Kristen like can actually randomly run a business

583
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: that can't ship packages, but like she is getting into

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Speaker 1: the back end of the IT system. But I'm kind

585
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: of like when she's just like are you in cad,

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00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of just like, I don't think she's doing

587
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: any that ship. I think that it was just that

588
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: one scene. And not to talk about Elsie's rival, but

589
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're circling, we're building the universe because it's

590
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: like we talk about Christina all the time, now we're

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Speaker 1: doing Elsie. Also, Elsie worked for Katrone or Katrone was

592
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: on the Hillstron was like on a couple episodes of

593
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: The Hills, and like, I feel like Elsie was really

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Speaker 1: afraid of control. But I'm like, okay, so maybe Cavalary

595
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: is more logic brain and Elsie is a little more

596
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Speaker 1: creative because like she wrote an all right brain verse

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Speaker 1: left frame wait hold up, speaking of their IQs too,

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Speaker 1: And again, not to be an elitist East Coaster, but

599
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: she literally went to one of those for profit art

600
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Speaker 1: chain schools AI that's like the Art Institute. Oh but

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00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: that's not the UTIs Institute of Chicago, the ar. Yeah,

602
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: but I was always embarrassed because probably, oh, the art

603
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Speaker 1: and stud there, like that thing that's like advertised on

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Speaker 1: the trains. Oh, and it's yeah, she went to that

605
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Speaker 1: in San Francisco and she mentions it and she's like,

606
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: when I was in college and like San Francisco, like

607
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: days were blustery, so I wore lay trenches. And then

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Speaker 1: I think she transferred to Fidham Fashion School of Design

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00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: and Merchandising in La Yeah, I remember, because that was

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Speaker 1: like the end of Laguna Beach. She was like, I'm

611
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Speaker 1: going to San Francisco for school, and it was like

612
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: so her leaving and like Trey was also going to

613
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: Fashion schoo well, and it was really her just mean,

614
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Speaker 1: like I can't believe I'm going to this new city.

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy. And then she dropped out after like

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00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: one year, right, and then did started for them. But

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Speaker 1: here's why I do think that she is a little

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Speaker 1: bit not self aware. I guess I agree with you

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Speaker 1: on the self awareness part totally, but tell me your point.

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Speaker 1: So my point is there's a section about how to

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Speaker 1: pose for a photo. Oh yeah, and the advice is saying,

622
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: I do want to read it, but she is actually

623
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: terrible at posing for photos. She looks so awkward and

624
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: stilted in every single photo in this book. It reminds

625
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: me of the Amy Schumer sketch where they're like teaching

626
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: her how to pose on a red carpet and she's

627
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: just like her teeth are going more and more like turning.

628
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Speaker 1: They're like, good job, good job. She's like it's like

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Speaker 1: every single photo she looks so tense, like she's holding

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Speaker 1: it in a fart, like that's every single photo in

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Speaker 1: the book. And then she also does that other thing

632
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Speaker 1: which I kind of don't agree with. I think this

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Speaker 1: makes you look wider where she was like, always be

634
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: to the side so you can see you have a body. Okay,

635
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: well you just get alien stuff where it's I mean

636
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: I do sometimes like turn to the side, but then

637
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: turn but then cheat my chest towards It makes them

638
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: like waist look thinner. But okay, this is psychoadvice, Like actually,

639
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: try as I'm saying this, like, try to do what

640
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, remember that best side angle it slightly towards

641
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: the camera, tuck your chin out and down and then

642
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: turn your eyes towards the lens and smile. If you

643
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: feel like your jaw is seizing up, try pushing your

644
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: tongue against your top teeth. This engages the muscles, which

645
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: actually helps relax them out. Okay, so yeah, turn, I

646
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: think you have to turn your face more away from camera.

647
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: But then eyes towards camera, chin out and down, tongue

648
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: against the teeth. Yeah, I mean it's quite tense. I'm

649
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: not saying the relax energy coming from that pose. And

650
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: it's like, maybe that's why she looks so fucking tense

651
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: in all these photos. Study celebrity photographs. It's our job

652
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: to know how to hold ourselves, to show our best selves.

653
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: And honestly, is this tense virginity about her? Where she'll

654
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: like when she's talking about like tops or like skirts,

655
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and she'll be like, dresses shouldn't be too short leaves

656
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: some mystery ladies. When she's like, I never like to

657
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: show more than three quarters of an inch of shadow

658
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: of my clearflag. I'm sorry, you're measuring shadows, not the

659
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: day measure, measuring the shadows like full Mormon boots. And

660
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: then she refers to the peep toast a lettos. She's

661
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: like Oh yeah, this is like where you can like

662
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: show some toe as because like guys want to see

663
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: skin on a date, but like also want mystery, right,

664
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: so it's like you're covering half the toes but like

665
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: a little bit of toes showing this photo advice. I

666
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: actually do think it is insane, Tea. If you're in

667
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: a group shot and you're the tallest or largest, try

668
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: to be in the middle or at least in a

669
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: position where you're flanked by two people. Those on the

670
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: end to get the bum wrap and will always appear

671
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: bigger than they actually are. Okay, but I kind of

672
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: disagree with I was like, you don't want to be

673
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: dead set in the middle because then it's kind of

674
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: this like pyramid and it's like tall. But I do

675
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: think that's right though. I think that like if you're

676
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: the Chloe, if you're the Cloe crowd Astian and you're

677
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: on the end, like you actually do look like a tree,

678
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: you look like a full monster, and like big girls

679
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: get in the middle. Like I actually think that's good.

680
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: It's because I also, and I've said this before, people

681
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: see by generalization, not by comparison. So if you hang

682
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: out with like a bunch of skinny girls, you'll look skinnier.

683
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: And the people always think that, oh no, like they

684
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: my skinny friend is making me look fat, right, my

685
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: skinny friends making me like I's like, oh no, she's

686
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: actually making you look skinnier, but you're making her look fatter.

687
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: So everything sort of evens out. I guess I think

688
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: you should be like, not full center middle, but just

689
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: like to the left of middle. I mean this is

690
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: you're a group of five, like if it's a group

691
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: of free people. I'm just saying, like, if you're the

692
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Chloe get in the middle. Wait, okay, there's so much

693
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: more we need to discussed. Oh wait, this is an

694
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: insane Sorry I just opened this page. So this like

695
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: in which I feel like is again another hypocritical thing

696
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: she does. She's talking met how like in her like

697
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: fucking for grit. Elsie Kristen's gonna love this episode. It's

698
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: so cavalary Hive where we're like, fuck Elsie trashing Conrad.

699
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think half thinks about con to

700
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: be honest. No, she's running a fucking business. She's running

701
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: she's a fucking mom and a businesswoman. Um. She says,

702
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: if you're not sure. If you want to like go

703
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: deep into a trend, you should buy the cheap version

704
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: of the trend, like the H and M one and

705
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: get it, and then if you're into it, like go

706
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: for the more expensive thing, which I think again is

707
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: just falling into the thing of spending too much at

708
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: H and M, which she says you shouldn't do. Yeah,

709
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: what you shouldn't do. You're always like I saw, I'm

710
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: like pre buying. I'm buying you buy a seventy dollar

711
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: like butt leather bomber, and then if you're into it,

712
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: then like go for the trend. Okay. Also, just another

713
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: really amazing piece that we forgot in the travel section. Um,

714
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: she says, make sure to bring your idea on a plane,

715
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: huge advice from shopping guru idem planet Ult and she's like, laptop,

716
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: bring it. M she goes like hydrate a few hours

717
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: before a flight. Okay, there's only five more topics that

718
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I discussed very quickly, and numb're done. Okay. First of all,

719
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: when she talks about office appropriate wear, and she's like,

720
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: you shouldn't show your upper or your lower back at

721
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: the office. Okay, well, yeah, like the most like a

722
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: dippy shirts but like or like some sort of shrip

723
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: that is only revealing your lower back and it's like,

724
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what shirt that is. Oh, I guess

725
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: it's like a crop top. Okay. But here's why I

726
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: think that's actually kind of good advice, because offices are

727
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: so back forward. You're seeing people's backs all the time

728
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: at an office because people are sitting at their computers

729
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: or the computers at against a wall, and it's like

730
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: you don't see them from the other side because there's

731
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: a computer in front of them. Wait too, you agree

732
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: or disagree? I agree because I think that offices are

733
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: one of the most backy. Yeah. I mean, now you're

734
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: like eating up her alien gossip compete, like, yeah, of course.

735
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: It's it just seems like obviously you don't want to

736
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 1: be like sitting in an office chair with your lower

737
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: back out as like, and then like you don't know

738
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: how you look from the back, and it's just like

739
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I just I feel like it's like, well, that's a

740
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: normal office. You're not going to be showing so much

741
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: back in an office, and just I just thought at first,

742
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: I was like, that's a really specific piece of advice,

743
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, wait a minute. Offices

744
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: are more back than say a movie theater or an airport.

745
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: I think it's more about being like proper though her perspective.

746
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: I get it, Lily. I'm bringing my own perspective to

747
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: this conversation. This isn't just me reading the book out loud.

748
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: This is me responding to the book. Okay, no, no, no,

749
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: what if Stevens points about backs offices have backs? I mean,

750
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: I know you're not in an office a lot, and

751
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: that's a strong point of contention. And you do wish

752
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: you were an assistant producer at Jezebel, and one day

753
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: you will be, and I will be showing my back

754
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: all throughout the office. Another insane quote. This is page

755
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: one five. If you have to book at home follow along.

756
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: Hips are hard to conceal because they're part of your

757
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: skeletal structure. That was one of my favorite nine. That

758
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: is alien. Yeah, that is an alien statement. Hips are

759
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: part of the skeletal structure. It's like, um, do we

760
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: have time to go into it. It's just kind of like, well,

761
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: if you're talking about dressing, your talking about bodies, that's

762
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: going to go ahead. Yeah, I don't know everything is

763
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: going to be kind of part of another another insane

764
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: nine page ninety seven. Weekends are one of the few

765
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: times in life when you should feel liberated to wear

766
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: what you want. Weekends are not a ra Weekends happen

767
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: every week. Weekends are one of the few times in

768
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: life when you should feel liberated. Well, she is a

769
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: serious worker going to well supplied cities. Yeah, and Lauren

770
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: Conrad actually only has one weekend a year because she

771
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: works that hard. But then she says, has this whole

772
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: section called style is Lawless, And she says that's like

773
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: one paragraph. And you're like, girl, that doesn't seem latless,

774
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: and she Okay, this is what's so confusing. She's like, God,

775
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: looking back in high school, me and my friends we

776
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: basically dressed all the same same tank top, same jeans.

777
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: And she's like, you need to find your own style.

778
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like she's like, so that's why

779
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: I go to Zara and I load up on seventy

780
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: layered tanks. So she does like mention going on eBay,

781
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: but she is very like, beware, like here's the thing, like,

782
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: and she is being so like I get it, Like

783
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: you're probably reading this book and you're so sketched out

784
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: by vintage stores. But she's like, there's a lot of

785
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: actually high end vintage shops that do the digging for you.

786
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: And she's like, but beware, don't wear totally a vintagehop

787
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: it because you're gonna look like you're in a costume

788
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: or a theater piece. Who's the audience for this that

789
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: has just never heard a ventation is terrified of it?

790
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean all of the people that are like love

791
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Lauren Conrad. Yes, that's true. Okay, wait, I wanted to

792
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: justus and I do want to move on to segments.

793
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: I guess I want into ask your opinion about these

794
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: first dates that I went on. Okay, yeah, let's do

795
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: whether or not the guy, whether or not I should

796
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: have been offended or red flagged that the guy was

797
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: not so the first this one, this one day, not

798
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: this actually was wearing the Sandra jeans on this other

799
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: day as well. He had just come from the gym,

800
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: and he had like showered at the gym and like

801
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: changed back into his like work clothes. But it was

802
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: very like he was very kind of like straight guy

803
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: almost just like no style, just like an olive T

804
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: shirt and like cargo pants and and he had a

805
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: backpack shirt and he this backpack with him. That was

806
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: very just like I came from the gym, and I'm

807
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: kind of like, huh. So it made me feel like

808
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: should I have felt like I was getting squeezed in

809
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: or is that totally fine? And I should be like,

810
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: you know what, like guys don't need to be so

811
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: buttoned down. Then it would be awkward if you were

812
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: so buttoned and you were in the sandro jeans and

813
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: like a layered tank. I was actually in this. I

814
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: was in the sandro jeans in like a tight T shirt. Okay, hot,

815
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: we'll call it black, black t shirt, black jeans. I

816
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: was being very kind of like rucker. She here's yeah,

817
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: that's kind of Here's why I don't think you should

818
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: be offended and like be more turned on, because I

819
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: feel like you're always saying like you want a top

820
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: and that's like top. I mean, it was super top

821
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: behavior on his part. And also it's like New York

822
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: is crazy, you know what I mean, Like you're always

823
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: at a place, but then you can't like go home

824
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: and do the full outfit, and he's giving you the

825
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: space to be Sandra jeans and tight top and it's

826
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, all of is the most

827
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: like modern straight man color. So modern straight man color.

828
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, where do you even finding all of it?

829
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: And was the tea like the tea wasn't you know

830
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: what it was? It was a little soft, it was

831
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: all okay, I'm imagining like a soft dog. It was

832
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: an Elsie. It was an Elcie fabric. I'm imagine basically

833
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: right now, Adrian Grenier basically like something he would wear.

834
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: It was accept it. I feel like Adrian Grannie would

835
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: be wearing like the John Varvados version of that. And

836
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: it was not so Varbados, like a little less not

837
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: one tiny button. Um okay. The other outfit though, is

838
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: this the other guy where I was also wearing the

839
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: Sandrow jeans, but the button down in the sweater he

840
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: was wearing like a windbreaker, like kind of a vintage

841
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: like more like a thrift store wind breaker like eighties

842
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: or like he thought he was doing something and it's

843
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: just like so like more nineties, but like it was

844
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: really like an indie outfit, but it was to me,

845
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this seems kind of day windbreaker And

846
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: where were the pants? The pants were jeans I want

847
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: to say light or dark, like medium medium indigo wash?

848
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: And what was under the windbreaker? Honey, I never saw

849
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: oh stayed zipped. Yeah huh. This gives me this guy

850
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: thinks that the wind breaker was a cool piece. I

851
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: do think that he thought it was a cool piece,

852
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not against it as a day piece. I

853
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: guess I'm like, should I be offended that he wasn't

854
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: more like night boots? I guess you're saying, no, good

855
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: over I guess yeah, I mean I'm over it? Yeah, no, Yeah,

856
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: you sounded okay, Um, way in with your thoughts. Should

857
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Steven be offended to me? Yeah? You? I think it's

858
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: you could be a little offended, But why waste your

859
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: time on that? And um um, I guess we should

860
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: move into segments? Um wait fuck? I had one more

861
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: thing about hair. Nighttime looks, daytime looks. Oh, she doesn't

862
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: mention her famous hairdo, the LC bump. She literally doesn't

863
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: mention the bump because we always refer to the bump. Yeah,

864
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: and that was like where it goes the b It's

865
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: like reverse bangs. Basically, you take your bangs and you

866
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, don't they have to they don't

867
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: have to be bangs, could be a regular hair. But yeah,

868
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: you just move them back in that straight way. It's

869
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: and then but then you bump it a tiny tiny bit. Yeah,

870
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Yeah, she acts like the bump never happened,

871
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: and you would always roast me for having my pomadour

872
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: being the LC bump. Yeah, and it wasn't high enough

873
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: segment actual boots. What does she wear? What does she eat?

874
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: How does she what does she wear? We've certainly covered

875
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: I think we covered it. Tailored denim, Taylor denim. She

876
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: is running to the tailor. Okay, question though, do you

877
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: think her style has evolved to be more like regular

878
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: like girl now and she's doing like a cross body

879
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: quilted channel with like a vintage ta tucked into like

880
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: Giselle jeans and white sneakers and she looks like every

881
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: other girl a little bit. But I feel like her

882
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: maybe gown and nighttime looks as still. Do you think

883
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: her casual style has updated with the times and she's

884
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: still just been really boring gowns for like the one

885
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: event she's invited to her Yeah, and then I think,

886
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: but I think she's sticking to skinnies for sure, Like

887
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I think she is playing with boyfriend jeans,

888
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: probably more because she is like a mom. Now here's

889
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: what I think. I think she's just kind of general

890
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: made well and that maybe she is doing sneakers. Um,

891
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: but it's like just very very made well and like

892
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: kind of Christian girl autumn. Yeah, I'm picturing her in

893
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: a white slip on sneaker. Tiny bit distressed. She says

894
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: she prefers a clean wash, but she's going for a whisker, right.

895
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean it is true what she said. When she

896
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: says cleanwash, it's like not the nineties. Yeah, yeah, clean whiskers.

897
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: She's not. I'm wearing like stiff wranglers totally. She's not

898
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: this bad ass Walmart shopping. Yeah. I think she's still

899
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: addicted to Denham um and uh yeah. On later when

900
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: we promote this episode, will like list some of the

901
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: awesome websites that she recommends, which are Urban Outfitters dot com,

902
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Rula La dot com, Shop Pop Shop Pop which I

903
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: always remember because didn't um Like, Kate Middleton worked for

904
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: Shop Bob. Yes, but before she became queen ship from

905
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: Bob to Buckingham. Yeah, she was like a manager of

906
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: sales rep, meat manager, shop the most medium ass job bop,

907
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: and like Shopbop was very like pre the real real

908
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: where it was like you can get or was shopop

909
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: like new designer clothing. I feel like it's just I

910
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: have no idea. I want to say. It's just I

911
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's a vintaging consignment. I don't think I

912
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: had that much of a concept. She had some other

913
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: crazy websites that she was talking about, like this, like

914
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: wholesale jewelry website. I feel like it's so wholesale jewelry.

915
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: And she was always like, yeah, and don't forget to

916
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: hit up wholesale jewelers. You can get just like a

917
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: whole band of African beads for like forty five dollars

918
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: or something. And I'm like, and then what are you

919
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: doing with the beads? She's expended, we can get some glue,

920
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: get your girls die? And was sublimes be it a dress,

921
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: caught a dress and half turned it into a start.

922
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, she has that stolen McCartney piece. That Okay.

923
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: Here's another reason why I'm going to maybe hypocritize her

924
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: is that I think that maybe all her di iy

925
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: is just kind of like random stuff that she's saying

926
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: to fill the book, but she's not really doing that much. Jay,

927
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: She's kind of just like, yeah, you can bleach her jeans.

928
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: Like I don't think she's actually like wow, just why

929
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: we're calling like she is. She is a deceptive woman.

930
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: She is a spy, like we actually she needs to

931
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: go to jail for false again, Team Cavalry. That's the

932
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: whole thing. She was calling Cavalary such a liar. I'm

933
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: so Kristen pilled and it's like, who's the actual liar? Elsie? Okay,

934
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: what does she eat? Well? I had just one more thing.

935
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: What does she about the jeans? Is when she goes

936
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: to the tailor, is that you need to decide if

937
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: these jeans are going to be for flats or heels.

938
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that's true or false? I guess I'm

939
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: saying that's a big decision to make. Yeah, I would

940
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: ideally you want jeans at versatile. But I'm always having

941
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: this issue where I'm just like, do I want to

942
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: take in the jeans more? Do I want to show

943
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: more ankle? Because I always have this fear that, like,

944
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: my jeans aren't making me look tall enough. And that

945
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: the more crop they are, the toleral look. But sometimes

946
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: like that's just crazy and like, you know, I need

947
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: to just sit in my height and be happy with no.

948
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: And sometimes I under tailor because I'm worried about them

949
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: like looking too cropped. Yeah, I don't think you should.

950
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: I think you do undertailor, And I'm glad that you

951
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: called yourself ins I know I don't have to like

952
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: an asshole for saying it, but like, because then your

953
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: jeans always get like loose really quickly, and I feel

954
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: like your jeans are and you're always pulling them up

955
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: and then to cuff them. Yeah, and it's just being

956
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: so like swampy dumpy daffy duck over here. Wow. Um,

957
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: we need to get you a better tailor. Yeah, because

958
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: the creepy dry cleaners is That's not it. I'm not

959
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: making the cuts. Okay. What does she eat? Bulls? She

960
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: eat bowls, bowls, avocada. She's having a smoothie chase by

961
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: a smoothie. Yeah, avocado toast, smoothie, barley balls. Wait did

962
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: you read the acknowledgement? Oh wait, lately insane k Hyatt.

963
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: She thanks Hyatt for introducing her to British club sandwiches,

964
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: because it sounds like they wrote this book over the

965
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: course of four days on Google docs in a conference

966
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: room in a Hyatt, And she was like, yeah, it

967
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: was a crazy time being at that Hyatt and there

968
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: was like randomly some other conference going on, and like,

969
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: I'll never forget all the club sandwiches we ate and

970
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: all the Disney songs we listen to Buea and so Christian. Okay,

971
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: also I forgot her fucking like epilogue or whatever is

972
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: completely insane. Or she's like, yeah, sure, style is important,

973
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: but you know it's really important. You don't have to

974
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: express this through this quote grand gestures either. It's small

975
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: gestures that will really set you apart, like being gracious

976
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: to wait staffing cab drivers, holding open a door for

977
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: someone who needs help, or bringing a friend flowers on

978
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: her birthday. And then she's like, and most importantly, it's

979
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: in giving things, whether it's for dinner, an informational interview,

980
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: a gift, a college recommendation, or even just being a

981
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: good friend, like write a thank you card, which is

982
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: like the most mom thing to do, most serious mom.

983
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: And again, you know, thank you guys are always appreciated.

984
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: I always forgeb to write them, and you know everyone

985
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: does forget them. I guess that's true. It's just very

986
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: funny because this whole book is about just like being

987
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: a fucking consumer capitalist. And then the very end she's

988
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: like and by the way, do be nice to service

989
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: industry folks, and like, yeah, thank your Hyatt. Wait, but

990
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: this Hyatt part Farren Jacobs and Sasha Illingsworth, after two

991
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: weeks of editing done in a Hyatt meeting room during

992
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: a children's talent search, there are a few people I

993
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: would still like. But after many British clubs, multiple servings

994
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: of questionable and malfunctioning it's crowds of maroon clothes football

995
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: fans and more than a thousand photo kills, I'm still

996
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: quite fond of you both. Hyatt. Thanks for introducing me

997
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: to the British club Sandwich. It's like, it's insane that

998
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: she wrote this whole book in England at a Hyatt

999
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: and I guess, like maybe they I guess what were

1000
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: they serving her, like I said, it was probably like

1001
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: an La or like a Chicago Hyatt, But they were

1002
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: just coining a sandwiches British clubs. Oh I guess I

1003
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: was imagining that, like she was out of British Hyatt

1004
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: and they were like giving her like bangers and she

1005
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: was like okay, and I'll try anything once. I mean,

1006
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: she is very like me. I do think Elsie is

1007
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: very like is the kind of person who goes on

1008
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: vacation in London, if you know what I mean. She's

1009
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: the most thank you so much, just like absolute white person,

1010
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: like I want to go to a country with I

1011
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: want to I want to go to well supplied, a

1012
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: well supplied city and be like, wow, it's so interesting here. Well,

1013
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: and of course she loves I'm sure Princess Die and

1014
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure she loves Kate Middleton style. And I guess

1015
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even think she doesn't even

1016
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: have does she like say we were a style? I

1017
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: hunt is even this book at all? I feel she doesn't.

1018
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: She just says James. The only person she references is

1019
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: James Dean, and she's like, and I love Greece. There's

1020
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: like no references. I mean, that's what's so in this way,

1021
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: she's like not artistic, even though yes she has all

1022
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: these like fashion lines and books or whatever. I'm just

1023
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: like there's no references or like ideas other than this

1024
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: like Grecian. Oh wait die no, she says, which we

1025
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: need to do. She says the best way to get

1026
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: style in'spos like grab a friend and a digital camera

1027
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: and just like start taking photos and like just bop

1028
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: around the city taking photos and then like print them

1029
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: out on your like cannon girl, we're doing that. We're

1030
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: getting a digital camera, like we're gonna just like get

1031
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: into photography. It's happening. But I guess what does she Yeah,

1032
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: it's it's bowls and like I feel like she is

1033
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: a lightweight alcohol wise. Oh and she's like getting so

1034
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: red faced and she's I feel like, more than her.

1035
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Oh Kristen puts it away. Yeah, but as we've said,

1036
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Kristen's also like having one shot and then mean, like

1037
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: you guys, tonight was crazy being true. I guess like

1038
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: Kristin is more fake and like bragging. It is like

1039
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: fake tequila bragging boots, and like Lauren is just like

1040
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: nervously sipping and then being like, oh, I'm tired, Oh one,

1041
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: I gotta go home. Who she married to? I feel

1042
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: like she's so I mean, I'm just thinking of Hanne

1043
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: Pen I just feel like she's definitely married to like

1044
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: a hockey football X player and it's also so Jessica

1045
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: Simpson baseball player stuff. Um, okay, how does she live?

1046
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: I bad to me. Yeah, it's high bad. It's white,

1047
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: everything's white and everything princess. I'm sure she has a

1048
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: massive pauses. Yeah, gray, it's like carpeted and there's brass everywhere.

1049
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: I feel like she does have the rug. Maybe maybe

1050
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Speaker 1: she has the rug in like her poolhouse. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like regular kids house is not even the is

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00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: not even that like boho rug. It's just like white light, pink, gray, beige, cream, white,

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Speaker 1: white way, lots of pillows, maybe some live laugh love adjacent.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, does she even have a faux Marilyn

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Speaker 1: Monroe warhole. I feel like because she's from Laguna Beach,

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Speaker 1: she's a little bit just like the beach is really

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Speaker 1: important to me. So here's like a framed shell. Yes

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Speaker 1: I saw a girl and say, yes the dress Atlanta

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Speaker 1: doing a bouqueure bouquet was made of shells. Care bouquet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a shell bouquet, which I found that really interesting, and

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Speaker 1: a pile of shells. It was like shells made in

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Speaker 1: the shape of a bouquet for her to walk down

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Speaker 1: the aisle with. Again, though, how do you a shell

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Speaker 1: is not a well, I think it's hello. I think

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Speaker 1: it's Diway, it's a DIY project. I get that, Lily,

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Speaker 1: I need you to explain it a little more. Was

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Speaker 1: the shell attached to a stick? It looks like it was.

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Speaker 1: She was holding a bundle and there were shells on

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Speaker 1: the top. Okay, and you know what a bundle of

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Speaker 1: sticks is called a fact? Correct? Okay? Who are you

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00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: in the book? I do? I definitely with Elsie, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I am the fucking Elsie person in the entire world.

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Speaker 1: Can I just sell the story of in high school

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: when you were just the most psychodenomologist and we're just

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00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: like screaming at your mom because she dried your Hudson

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Speaker 1: Denham's and her famous quote where she was like, I

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Speaker 1: can't keep up with this schedule wash on the every

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Speaker 1: other side of the moon. Like oh, and she was

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00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: like all of your clothing needs to be just like

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: handwoven by l of a midnight. Yeah, and you were

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00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: obsessed with that story called like American Denham Company in

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Speaker 1: Newton and oh, National Gene coo, we're all the popular

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: girls in my high school shopped yeah, and you once

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00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: sobbed running down Newberry Street to get to Diesel before

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00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: they closed because we went that you tried on these

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: insanely tight light pair of jeans, didn't buy them. We

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00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: went to Puma and then I was like, I do

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00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: want the jeans. Yeah, tears running yeah and again, And

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Speaker 1: I'd followed Lauren's advice and I had just like hydrated

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Speaker 1: and like more and more comfortable shoes, and like brought

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Speaker 1: three friends, like an a mirror. If you brought one

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: of your sighted friends, that would have helped, and you

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00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: were being so blind. Has been like, I don't know

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00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: if this track check, it looks good? Okay, I guess

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00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm the friend that she has that told her that

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: she looks like a circuits runaway. Oh you're like the

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Speaker 1: friend who she doesn't like going shopping with. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: Love shop with No, I love shopping with you, I

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Speaker 1: say sassy comments. Because you have a good eye. You

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Speaker 1: have your sort of differently abled vision, yes, like allows

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: you to see things that other people don't like. You're

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Speaker 1: always finding like a funny T shirt that like others

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Speaker 1: wouldn't get right, because sometimes the senses get bigger. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I love shopping with you. Didn't thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I do think I'm a good shopper. I was just

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Speaker 1: saying I would totally say something sassy like that while

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Speaker 1: we're shocked together. Who am I the book? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm Elsie getting her jeans tailored. And but

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you don't really like your tailor and

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Speaker 1: she kind of loves her Taylor, So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: push back on that. So I'm aspirational Elsie. I'm the

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Speaker 1: girl she's talking to that hasn't found the tailor, the

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Speaker 1: girl with no tailor starring Emily Blunt, the girl. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you're just like one of the amazing team at Harpercollumns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm one of the friends. And the

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Speaker 1: editing of the closet editing, with all the seamless happening,

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Speaker 1: you're over there with the blackout curtains, it's been like, well, yes,

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Speaker 1: you look at it, keep it. Oh, I can't decide

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Speaker 1: toss gross Wow, what a journey. Yeah, anyway, I give

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Speaker 1: this book, um ten gladiators out of ten gladiators. Um No,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely give this book five out of five wide belts. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's a must read. Uh, that's just the pros.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it's easy to read. Um, it's also fun

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Speaker 1: to having your coffee table and for people just pick up.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite things about a book

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Speaker 1: is that you can just open it to any page

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Speaker 1: and it makes sense, and this book is definitely one

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Speaker 1: of those. So yeah, six thumbs up. Sure. Maybe will

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Speaker 1: you feel a little lost if you're at hair and

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01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: you haven't read done them yet? Maybe maybe, But you know,

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Speaker 1: there will be a parenthetical guy that'll be like, go

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Speaker 1: to page twenty four if you want to learn how

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Speaker 1: to make your own God it's at home exactly. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Next week we will be reading art queen Peggy Gugenheim's

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Speaker 1: memoir Confessions of an Art Addict, which will be super

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Speaker 1: fun because we love the art world and we interact

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Speaker 1: us with art. Um and now we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: just pull it apart piece by piece. Yeah. Um. So

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Speaker 1: for all of you are regular folks, we will see

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Speaker 1: you right now in the VIP lounge. And if you're

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Speaker 1: like wait, wait, wait again, what's the link? It's Patreon

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Speaker 1: and Madeleine Kaplan, who was a really cute style. Our

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