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Today we have a member of Rock Royalty. 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: John Anderson is the iconic founding member and lead singer 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: from the English progressive rock band Yes. This is a 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: band that has been a soundtrack certainly to my life 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: and to so many of you, and so glad to 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: take a walk down music history with Johnny Anderson from Yes. 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: We'll also talk about upcoming projects for him in twenty 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: twenty three. So welcome to Taking a Walk with Johnny Anderson. Well, 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: John Anderson, I'm truly honored and grateful to have you 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: on Taking a Walk. You've been a large part of 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: my life for so many years. Excellent buzz. So when 20 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: was that moment in time when you first realized that 21 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: you were a musician that you were stuck in this 22 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: business at what moment was that when I started working 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: on the farm with my brother, Because my brother and 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: myself worked on this farm about a mile or so 25 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: away from the home in a Crington, northern England. And 26 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: we get up every morning five thirty and old weathers, 27 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, snow, rain or shine whatever. We get on 28 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the bus and go up to the farm and we 29 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: got on the farm and we'd go out and start 30 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: milking the cows and shoveling a lot of cow poop 31 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: and singing. We sang all the time together because we 32 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: were fans with the Everly Brothers. This is nineteen fifty 33 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: eight fifty nine. And then Buddy Holly came along and 34 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: so we sang Buddy Holly. And then was the guy 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: with the dark glasses, Roy Orbison. What a guy, And 36 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: so basically, you know, we we My brother had a band, 37 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: you see, and they were called the Warriors or sometimes 38 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: the Warriors, and there were two singers. There was my 39 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: brother and a guy called I can't remember his name, Buddy. 40 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,559 Speaker 1: He was he was he wanted to be a hairdresser, 41 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: so he left left the band. So my brother said, 42 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: why don't you join the band. You know, we can 43 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: do Everlys and I'll do Elvis Presley and you can 44 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: do Roy Orbison. And so I said, yeah, let's do that. 45 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Screw this working hard on the farm. I wanted to 46 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: get out and tour the world, not knowing that it 47 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: would happen, but you know, he wanted to. And that's 48 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, that's when I started to realize being in 49 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: a band was more fun than shoveling a lot of shit. 50 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: So it was a different version of shit. You had 51 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: a shovel at times, right, don't want to go there, 52 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: but it was a breakthrough for me to, you know, 53 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: to realize that we could travel. We had a van 54 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: and we traveled and all over England and Scotland and Wales, 55 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: and eventually we went to Germany to follow the Beetle Trail. Now, 56 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the Beetle Trail was very simple. That he played in 57 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: a club U eight hours a night and then you 58 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: go two weeks there and then you go to Munich, 59 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: then you go to Hamburg, Copenhagen, back to Coln Clun. 60 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: So that's what we did for about six months, and 61 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: by then we were frazzled. My brother left the band 62 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: and I'm with the with the guys, and I think 63 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: I took a lot of what was it called acid, 64 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: just like everybody else. Did you know the Beatles had 65 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Sergeant Pepper and Revolver and everything, so music was going, 66 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: but do you know? And that's that's how I stayed 67 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: in the whole idea, because you know, I just had 68 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: a problem that I kept hearing music in my head 69 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: like big time ideas. And I got to see the 70 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: guys in in the in the bedroom next door, I said, 71 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: come on, guys, it's tending them are Let's go on 72 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: rehearse and they would say f off, John. And for 73 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the second morning I went and I said, guys, we 74 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: got to rehearse. Come on, guys, we could be a 75 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: great band. F Off, they all said in unison. So 76 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: I parked my bags and left the band and that 77 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: was probably the best thing I ever did. It was 78 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: kind of frightening, but I did it. Do you remember 79 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: the first time you heard Sergeant Pepper and what your 80 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: reaction was? Hamburg? I was in Hamburg and my friend 81 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: Brian Chattan was a keyboard player. He had a hat 82 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: with a balloon hanging from it. With the hotel and 83 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: so the blue was up in the air like that, 84 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: and we were actually singing all the songs because we'd 85 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: spent all night singing them and that's all we did 86 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: all for about a week. We sang every song, every word, 87 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: and smoked a lot of marijuana and a few times 88 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: about you know, come on. It was rock and roll. 89 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: So that whole London scene in nineteen sixty eight was 90 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: a hotbed of a real creativity, right. Everything seemed to 91 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: all styles seemed to blend together musically. There was a 92 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: little bit of this and a little bit of that. 93 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of those styles then? As 94 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Yes was first formed, well, I think the great music 95 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: that I was hearing at that time was Buffalo Springfield, 96 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: the Beach Boys, Great Recordings, Zappa, Oh my god, you 97 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: know it was like and then I got turned onto 98 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: jazz by I met Keith Jarrett. He was eighteen at 99 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: that time, young guy. And then I started listening to 100 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a lot of various music at that time, and that's 101 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: when I went to London and I met Chris and 102 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: we were sort of like brothers right away, and we 103 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: both had the same intention and we both loved Simon 104 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: and Garfunkle. The album had just come out, you bridge 105 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: over trouble waters and just create new music. And that 106 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: was London, and it was all like that in New 107 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: York and la everywhere in the world. We weren't alone 108 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: with the idea that music was like an open door 109 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: of because you didn't. Because I was probably by then 110 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: about twenty six. I thought I was too old to 111 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: be a pop star. So I just wanted to write 112 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: some music. And I started studying Stravinsky and Sibelius, and 113 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: that's changed my life. You know, I've just I've just 114 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: been walking over the hills and far away around where 115 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: I walk every morning listening to Rachmaninoff's Third Piano Concerto 116 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: by this lovely lady called Martha. I can't remember her 117 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: last name, Argonaut. She's an incredible, incredible performance, and I've 118 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: been listening to it for the last month every day. 119 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, every day you keep learning, you know, you're 120 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: learning structure. And that's what I was doing with Chris 121 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: and the Yes. When Yes started, all I could think 122 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: about was structure and uh, you know, let's just do 123 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: this kind of an idea, that kind of idea. And 124 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: happily at that time everybody listened. You had a description 125 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: of a band that you saw that's pretty incredible that 126 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: really influenced you, called the Maha Vishna Orchestra and your 127 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: review of that of seeing John McLaughlin and band there. 128 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I love it how you said after seeing Mahavishna that 129 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: you couldn't breathe. It was such an experience, unbelievable. It was. 130 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: It was like everything rolled into one. It was like 131 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Zappa meets this band, meets that band, and all of 132 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, this band on stage. They didn't have a singer. 133 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: He just played music, which was a miracle in a way. 134 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: Me and Christa there and we got the same experience 135 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: about six months earlier with King Crimson in London watching 136 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: them do it their first show. They played the whole 137 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: album in the court of the Crimson King and it 138 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: was magnificent because they just learned it, just recorded it, 139 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: and that was their first performance in this club. But 140 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: see My Vishnu was like another level and it just 141 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,359 Speaker 1: I think it sort of opens up your state of consciousness, 142 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, about music. And that time I was lucky 143 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: to meet Vangelis and start working with Evangelis, and that 144 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: was another stepping stone to musical sort of discovery. Well, 145 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: so when you were working at the Marquee Club, that 146 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: was a place that you encountered a lot of people 147 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: as that they would roll through and play there, everybody 148 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: from Pete Townsend and some other notorious characters. One of 149 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: them was Jimmy Hendrix, who I think you encountered everybody. 150 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Everybody encountered jim Hendrix together when you hung out me, 151 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: I just just nothing. I was. I was stunned. I 152 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: actually saw him for the first time in Munich and 153 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: he came back to the house that I was living in. 154 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: I was living in the closet, these two lovely girls 155 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: that were looking after me because I was out of 156 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: my brain, and he sat down and smoke to join 157 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: with me. And he didn't say anything. He didn't have 158 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: to say anything. He just performed on stage like a 159 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: god messiah from from another world, you know. And then 160 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: I met him again. He got up and performed with 161 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Ross and Roland Kirk on the in the Jazz Club 162 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: in London for an hour spontaneous and that was my 163 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: first real, real taste of pure jazz, you know. Wow. 164 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: So so with stimulants you encountered Jimmy Hendrix. That's pretty incredible. Yeah, 165 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: it was a nice guy, you know it was he'd 166 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: been there and back a dozen times. You know that 167 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of guy that you know, he knows who he 168 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: is what he does. So in terms of these these 169 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: major influences, the Beatles as an example, Simon and Garfunkel 170 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: as an example. So Yes would then go on in 171 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: those two instances to honor those artists by by covering 172 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: their music. Can you talk about those two amazing examples 173 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: of the tribute Yes did to those to those artists 174 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: with the great music that you put out, Well, it 175 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: was it was only uh, we went on tour when 176 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: we first had the first album. We went on tour 177 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: with Carson. I'm when I forget his name, it'll be terrible. Freedom. 178 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: He had a big song called freedom. Richie Havens. Yeah, 179 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: So Richie Havens and the two guys who were with 180 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: him were magnificent. They were put on such a great 181 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: show every every every gig, and there was a song 182 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: called No Experience Necessary. And I said, come on, we're 183 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: going to do this in honor of Richie. Man, what 184 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful guy. And that's what we did. And I 185 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: remember we used to do as an uncle, we used 186 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to do you tell lives and I can't see you go. Chris, 187 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: You're laughing to me and down. Yeah, I'm going to 188 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: do that next next spring. I love that. But every 189 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: little thing too, every little thing, Yeah, you're reminded me. God, yeah. 190 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: I think we were just searching for what to what 191 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: to reheard. You know, we'd rehearse a couple of ideas 192 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: me and Chris had written, Chris written one, had a 193 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: couple more ideas. I think it took a little time 194 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: for us to tour together and get to know each 195 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: other better with At that time it was Tony Kay 196 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: and Peter Banks and Bill Bruford. You know, it's funny 197 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: because when we first started rehearsing with his with Chris's band, 198 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: the drummer left to get a gig in He had 199 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: a gig in France, and I said, why why is 200 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: he leaving the band? That's first day, you know, don't 201 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: we haven't even started. He said, well, he gets he's 202 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: getting paid. I thought, oh, yeah, I get it. That's 203 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: why we got Bill Bruford. And then you would you 204 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: would do this amazing version of America as well. What 205 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: an amazing song and what a great version the guest 206 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: did Yeah. I remember Pete said, we're going to do 207 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: America and then we didn't see people for a day. 208 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Came another day later he started playing the which was 209 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: a great part of the song itself. You know, I 210 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: think that was it. But Keith Emerson had done on 211 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: keyboard was like crazy wild. I mean, that whole uh 212 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: west Side story was a boon for musicians because it 213 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: was just so beautifully done, great songs. So the first 214 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: tour was quite a quite a band, bunch of bands together. 215 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: The first tour was was The Who, Rod Stewart in 216 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: Small Faces, Joe Cocker, Yes, and the Crazy World of 217 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Arthur Brown. Yeah, Arthur Brown. He would sing fire. He 218 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: had this sort of crown that was a gasol. He 219 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: lights his head up and all the fire would come 220 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: out of his set. A great show. Everybody went on 221 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: for ten minutes except that Who. They played as long 222 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: as they want because they were the Who. And Pete 223 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: Townsen actually spoke to me on the last gig. He said, 224 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: he came up me. I was watching Joe Cocker on 225 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: stage and I met Joe cockin when he was sixteen. 226 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: It's a lovely story which is in my memoirs. The 227 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: story and so Peter, a very tall guy, stands behind 228 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: me and he's watching Joe and he said, John, And 229 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: I thought, Pete's talking to me. Your band is very good. 230 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know your band is 231 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: very good. And I kept thinking, Pete Townsend is swing 232 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: to me. I can't believe it. And then he said, 233 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing an album about a blind, deaf and dumb guy. 234 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? And I said to myself, 235 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Pete Times is so good to me. I didn't know 236 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: what to say. What do you say to that? And 237 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: then Tommy came out and that was just extraordinary. You know, 238 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: did all the bands on a tour such as that 239 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: that everybody get along? Was? There? Was there peace and 240 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: harmony on the tour, A lot of drinking in those days, 241 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: a lot of drinking and a little bit of marijuana. 242 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Everybody got on well, you know, yeah, no issues, No, 243 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: that came later, you know, that came later in the 244 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: dark days. Yeah. So when you think of favorite venues 245 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: that you've played with, yes, whether it be big stadium 246 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: venues or smaller venues, what are some of your favorite 247 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: places that you still enjoyed playing well? Of course, you know, 248 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: no matter where you play, the audiences are great. It's 249 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: just there's so many places that we played over the 250 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: years with es magical, very magical times, and I reflect 251 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: on that when I'm on tour. I actually love small theaters. 252 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I played my solo show in New York at the B. B. 253 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: King Little Club around the corner on fifth out of 254 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: forty second Street. Whatever. They were great shows, you know. 255 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: And then we do Madison Square Gardens with Yes and 256 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: what the hell all these wonderful people, twenty thousand people 257 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: for five nights, and you go, I can't believe this 258 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: is happening. You know. So you have in life, you know, 259 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: you have extremes. So you know, now I'm happy. I'm 260 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: more happy just to tour. I've been touring with these 261 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: young teenagers the Academy of Rock. Paul Green, who invented 262 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: the School of Rock, has a Academy Rock, and we've 263 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: toured last August, which was just incredible fun because I 264 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: said to them, why do we do, you know, close 265 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: to the edge guys, you know, and they all said, okay, 266 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: they you started doing it. You know. It's like they 267 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: didn't argue, they just said, okay, we'll do that, you know, 268 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: and they were just brilliant people, young people, very wonderful 269 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: and you get the chance to do that in a lifetime. 270 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: You know. We did it twenty years ago with the 271 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: School of Rock when it was a School of Rock, 272 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: and I've done it a couple of years now with 273 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: the Academy of Rock. And we're going on tour next 274 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: summer Europe with Academy of Rock kids. And I feel 275 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: like a kid when I'm with them until we do 276 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: a selfie. We do a selfie and I said, who's 277 00:18:53,680 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: that old guy? It's me It So the fun looks 278 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: so contagious at the School of Rock events, Yeah, because 279 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: you know they're not beaten up yet. Hopefully they will 280 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: never get beaten up emotionally about this crazy business that 281 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: we live in, you know. And survival is all down 282 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: to music. If you can get your next level of 283 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: consciousness about music, that's a survival thing, and it makes 284 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you want to just make more music. Whether it's whether 285 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: it reaches people or not, it's not the point. It's 286 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: just making new music. And it was only about gostious 287 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago when MP three's came up in the computer. 288 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: You could use an MP three and work with people 289 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: around the world, you know, send it. And I put 290 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: a number on my Facebook saying musicians wanted, send a 291 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: minute of your music and if I like it, I'll 292 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: get back to you. And I got about one hundred 293 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: people over a period of year or so, and I 294 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: got back to about twenty of them, twenty five of them. 295 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: And I'm still in touch with them because they were very, 296 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: really talented, and they understood that they could create music. 297 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: And I would sing something that I would never sing 298 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: with anybody else because it's them, because they are this music. 299 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: And I met so many wonderful people over the years 300 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: via the Internet. So that's an interesting idea that music 301 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: should never stand still in your state of consciousness. You 302 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: got a next level next thing, I gotta say. I'm 303 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: going to sing rak Maaninoff's third I started writing lyrics 304 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: to it because the beautiful melodies, you know, and I thought, well, well, 305 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: why not, I'll probably write some lyrics to Rakmaninoff's third Piano, 306 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: keep Me out of Trouble. Music really is a healing force, 307 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: isn't it, John, Yeah, for sure. I remember as a kid, 308 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: you know, I'd sit by the radio where the radio 309 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: stood on the floor, and I'd sit by it and 310 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: I'd listen and the things that I remember are Vaughan 311 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: Williams music and host Planet Sweet Mars used to freak 312 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: me out as a kid. And then you listen to 313 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: just beautiful orchestral music. And then, of course, as I 314 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, you start listening to very American music. 315 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: A lot of rock and roll is yes, this is American, 316 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: it is kind of. It's kind of because where I 317 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: was listening to was old they called it skiffle in 318 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: England and it was actually songs from country and Western. 319 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: So the country and Western with the birth of rock 320 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: and roll. I don't know how it happened, but there 321 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: was a certain element of whiskey or something like that. 322 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: The drummer just, you know, really stick to it, you know, 323 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: based stick to it. And Chad Hopkins what incredible, incredible 324 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: guitar player, brilliant. So all that stemmed from American energy, 325 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: and of course R and B came from American So 326 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: we've sort of mismashed everything, I think, and it's kind 327 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: of cool as well. So we have this mutual friend, 328 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: Lee Abrams, who is legendary consultant, inventor, innovator, and he 329 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: certainly was gracious to connect us talk about what Lee 330 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: Abrams means to the band, Yes, and to you personally. Well, 331 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of a crazy story, but I think we 332 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: will enjoy this. Is that he used to come and 333 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: hang around the band with a couple of three other guys, 334 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: and we'd see them in Miami, or we'd see them 335 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: in Chattanooga, see them in in New York, and there 336 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: they are again. It's that guy I can with all 337 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: these friends, and so we got to know each other 338 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: and they hung out like a fan of the band, 339 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: and he was very interesting guy. But I never really 340 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: connected with him closely. Chris did Chris. Chris and him 341 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: got into a whole world together for a while, and 342 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: then strange things happened. But I really got into the 343 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: idea I've been listening to. I've said this many times, 344 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: but I've been listening to Sibelius's Seventh Symphony, which is 345 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: a glorious piece of music. And I was on tour 346 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: doing some I can't remember which tour it was, but 347 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: I was definitely fragile. It was a fragile tour, and 348 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: I was listening to this music and then it put 349 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: it on and then after a while I listened to 350 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: it and they stopped, and I looked at the the 351 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: cassette and it was, like, you said, twenty six minutes long. 352 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: The Seventh Symphony is only twenty six minutes long. And 353 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: up until then, I've been listening to symphonies that were 354 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: always in three parts first, second, and third movement. But 355 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: this was the first twenty six minute piece that held 356 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: my state of mind, and I just went, wow, that's amazing. 357 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: And at that time around America, we were playing a 358 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of colleges and the college radio was FM radio, 359 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: and they would play the hell out of Starship Trooper, 360 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: which is like seven minutes long, where any other record 361 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: radio station would play anything under four minutes job, you know, 362 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: three minutes thirty three. It's perfect. So I really made 363 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: me a bit confused that there were making harder the 364 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: Sunrise and it's a piece of music. You know, I'm sorry. 365 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: I'll never get hurt on the radio, though, And so 366 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: I thought, wait a minute, I found radio that's the key. 367 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: And I got together with Steve. I said, Steve, why 368 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: don't we just do this music and we'll make it 369 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: into a long form, twenty minute piece of music. And 370 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: then he said I've got this idea. He goes close 371 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: to the round by the corner, and I sang down 372 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: at the end round by the river, because I've been 373 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: reading Herman Hess said Arthur, who found a spiritual energy 374 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: down by the river. So we sketched out during the 375 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: course of the Fragile tour, we sketched out an idea 376 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: for Close to the Edge, and interestingly enough, we started 377 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: recording it, and Chris was on board and Bill loved it. 378 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: Everybody loved it and the idea of it, And we're 379 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: going to just do Close to the Edge and two 380 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: other songs. That's all it is. We've got FM radio 381 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: all over America. You know. Meanwhile, behind the scenes in America, 382 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: lee A Brahms came up with an idea and radio, 383 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: You've got forty songs to play in the space and whatever, 384 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to do from now on 385 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: all over America. So by the time we released Close 386 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: to the Edge, there was nowhere to There was no 387 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: FM radio, So it was like Lea A Brahms, you 388 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: notty boy. But then you know a few years ago 389 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: we bumped into each other on tour with the kids. 390 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: I think it was twenty years ago, ten years ago, 391 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: and you know, a lovely guy and he's kind of 392 00:26:52,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: my he's like, my, what's the word guide towards happening 393 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: in the world on many different levels. He's such a 394 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: smart guy. So me and Jay, we just love the 395 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: guy and we go out for dinner whenever in Chicago. 396 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: But he sends me a weekly update of what's happening 397 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: in the world, and he's right on the money. There 398 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: is that we're sort of going the wrong way on 399 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: every kind of level. That One of the craziest things 400 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: that hit me about a month ago was watching with 401 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: my grandkids. I was watching children's TV and it's pretty 402 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: wild and crazy. But then there's these adverts that are 403 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: just aimed at the kids who are just waking up 404 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: to life, and they're dangerous. They're very dangerous advertising. It's 405 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: very dark and dangerous. I don't like it. And then 406 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, we all know that the media media is 407 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: just making money because that's all they're interested in. They 408 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: don't care what they're verse about sort of thing, and 409 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: that's been a very dangerous position to figure out that 410 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: how can we move forward consciously if we're teaching our 411 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: kids to go and buy something they don't really need 412 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: that much. But it's like materialism, isn't it? And if 413 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: materialism And this was taught to me by a wonderful 414 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: guy called Lawn Walker, a beautiful Native American guy who 415 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: walked to the length of America to ask for justice 416 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: for the treaties that were never kept. Anyway, he said, 417 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: young people, they're caught up in the materialistic world and 418 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: they'll never come back to get lost in the materialistic world. 419 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: And it's nothing to do with Madonna. Yeah, right on, 420 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: Well Lee is Lee is that he is a sherpa 421 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: to where we are, the president, where we're headed in 422 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, I think it would be good if, 423 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, stick him on TV. Come on, you know, 424 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: come on, Lee, put on a show. So in closing, 425 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: I would like to get your reflections on the loss 426 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: of the Jeff Beck Oh god, I was. It was 427 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: only a couple of months ago. I was listening to 428 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Beck. I just I'd seen him perform live, I'd 429 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: seen him with the yard Birds, and I've seen him 430 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: in London and he was he was. He was such 431 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: a character that he could I could never speak to 432 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: him at all, you know, he just got that look 433 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: about it, don't fuck with me, but man, he could 434 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: play guitar like nobody. I'd never heard anybody play like that, 435 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of people discovered how to do it, 436 00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: brilliant brilliant artists. And it's just natural that eventually they 437 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: have to go home, you know, like we all have to. 438 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: And that's okay. The same with Alan, you know, my 439 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: best he was my best man, you know, Alan White, 440 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: but you know eventually he had to go home. And 441 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: say with Chris, you know, so people keep heading in 442 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: that direction. I think it's just the next world. It's 443 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: another world. It's another not this world is a next world. 444 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: And that's what I sing about quite a lot these days, 445 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: that we're living in a very transitional world and we 446 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: don't need to look very far to understand the next world. 447 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: I think all you have to do is sit very 448 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: quietly and listen to the birds sing that. Uh. And 449 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: that's my final word. Thank you for the joy that 450 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: that you continue to give us. Good luck on school 451 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: of Raw or anything else you have up your sleeve. 452 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: And in this year, oh yeah, this year, I'm doing 453 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: the Bank Geeks in April. Come and see the Bank 454 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: Geeks and John Anderson doing epics and classics the Bank geeks. 455 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a tape of them performing Yes songs 456 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: in their studio and I thought, wait a minute, these 457 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: aren't just like the record, not just like there, just 458 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: like the record. And a year ago I got in 459 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: terms of the bass player, Richie, who said, Richie, you're crazy. 460 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: You're playing Yes songs exactly like they were recorded, and 461 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: he said, you know, that's what we do. I said, well, 462 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Why do we go on tour with you? 463 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, with me, we could go on tour 464 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: and do you know the classics and the epics, because 465 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: I've always wondered nobody's going to play the epics like 466 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: they could be played. And they said, thank you, that's okay, Richie, 467 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: we should do it. And we're actually have been rehearsing 468 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: yesterday and they sound really, really good. So it's going 469 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: to be a great show for anybody who loves Yes. 470 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: And we're going to be touring the East Coast in 471 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: April and then probably later in the year the West Coast, 472 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: but very much later, like December January. Somemarin that moment 473 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: for you, Johnny Anderson, No, no, I've got to get 474 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: on with the next project. I was that's it. I'm 475 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: going to sing the melodies from Rachmaninov's third piano. I 476 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: love it well. I hope next time, but we won't 477 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: be virtual taking a walk, and then we could actually 478 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: take a walk in person. But I feel like I 479 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: it was just about there with you bus. Where do 480 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: you live? I live outside of Boston. John will come 481 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: and see the show. You better believe that I will 482 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: be there. I'll get you tickets and you can backstage 483 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: meet even great, but we don't do me gree these 484 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: days because the COVID is coming back. No, I can't 485 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: get into that. But it's not coming back. Don't worries, Okay, 486 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: So everything's going to be all right. I'm very grateful 487 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: John for everything. Thank you for being on take care 488 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: of Buzz. Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, 489 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.