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Speaker 1: Breakingpoints dot Com. Super embarrassing moment for the US government

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Speaker 1: as the no fly list, which has massively mallooned over

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Speaker 1: the year since nine to eleven, was actually leaked after

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Speaker 1: being left on an unsecured airline server. Let's go and

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Speaker 1: put this up on the screen. This is from Vice News,

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Speaker 1: they say in the headline US no fly list leaks.

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Speaker 1: It was left on that unsecured airline server. The list

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Speaker 1: was discovered by a Swiss hacker, and it contains the

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Speaker 1: names and birth dates and over a million entries. Just

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Speaker 1: as a reminder, guys, we've had a no fly list

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Speaker 1: in this country for a long time, but as they

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Speaker 1: point out in this article, prior to nine to eleven

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Speaker 1: it contained literally like sixteen names on it, so it

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Speaker 1: was you know, almost non existent after nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: No one has any real insight into how large, but

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Speaker 1: it had ballooned to you know, forty thousand, eighty thousand

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Speaker 1: something like that. And by the way, no due process

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Speaker 1: this is a huge deal that this list has ultimately

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Speaker 1: been obtained and leaked. The fact that it includes more

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Speaker 1: although they said many of those entries are aliases that

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Speaker 1: all reference the same person. But one of the people

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Speaker 1: thought it would be. Yeah, the total number is somewhere

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Speaker 1: between forty seven thousand and eighty one thousand people. And again, like,

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Speaker 1: what does that even mean? And also what are the

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Speaker 1: justifications for doing that? To be clear, you do not

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Speaker 1: on the no fly list. They simply have to suspect you.

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Speaker 1: We had many of these cases in after nine to

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Speaker 1: because they even though it wasn't them, their name was

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Speaker 1: it gets to a lot of really interesting complex case

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Speaker 1: basically as an American citizen. For people who aren't citizens

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Speaker 1: been litigated and well established by the Supreme Court, and

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Speaker 1: people also keep in mind this is the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: what does it look like in the age of the

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Speaker 1: But it ultimately really serves as a reminder to me

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Speaker 1: We've covered before how upset the Europeans were that we

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Speaker 1: the screen. French President Emmanuel Macrone actually confronted Joe Manchin

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Speaker 1: the European Union's action preparing their own package now, which great, good, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all if it shapes the network's coverage going forward. You're

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct. Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis won a very

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Speaker 1: up for you know, said anything about any of that.

431
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Speaker 1: And so then if it is a bridge, which way

432
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: are the people marching, and it seems like they're they're

433
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: marching this way and controlling us rather than us kind

434
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Speaker 1: of having an influence on them. And to your point

435
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: about what's driving this, China has learned how to make

436
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood movies on its own, and they release a lot

437
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 1: of movies that are very nationalistic, big blockbuster things. They

438
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: are very nationalistic and very appealing to Chinese audiences that

439
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: really really like them. So that's another thing. I mean,

440
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: Disney planned the budgets for a lot of these films

441
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: well before this relationship splintered, and now they want to

442
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: make up and they know that they can spend more

443
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: money on these films and get them, hopefully to appeal

444
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: to bigger audiences. We saw a top gun Dotto over

445
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: the course of the last year. A huge, big budget

446
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: blockbuster does really well because people like the high octane stuff.

447
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: So Disney can spend more money on these movies and

448
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: then show them in China and all is well. That

449
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: ends well, But every sector of our economy is now

450
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: grappling with these questions. I think the public is more

451
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: aware of these questions. Mulan, which never ended up getting

452
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: shown in China, thanked the law enforcement of Shinjong the credits,

453
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: which was a huge controversy at the time. So good

454
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: luck to Disney, a huge lucrative contract or a huge

455
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: lucrative move to be able to open up that relationship

456
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: again with these two films. They're going to make a

457
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: lot of money off of it, maybe break even on

458
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: the films because of it, or even do better than that.

459
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: So we'll certainly keep following this in every sector of

460
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: the economy because there are some real problems for American

461
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: business leaders. Some big movement in the realm of UFOs UAPs,

462
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. The government put out

463
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: their report. They've been trying to gaslight us all on

464
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: the issue. There's a new clip that's been reserved as

465
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: well as a new image released by my friend Jeremy Corbel.

466
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: Let's look at the clip first. I actually missed this.

467
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: This was back in May of twenty twenty two, but

468
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: still important. Nonetheless, you have a Congressman Richie Torres here

469
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: talking about debris that has been recovered by the United

470
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: States government. Let's take a lesson. Has any physical evidence

471
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: such as debris been recovered. The debris that has been

472
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: recovered has not raised any notable alarms. So hold on

473
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: a second, which debris, what where? So a lot of

474
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: this was discussed was at least wiped under the rug

475
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: in the report. We talked previously about the Pentagon Inspector

476
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: General coming out and talking about secret compartmentalized programs, Roswell

477
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: and other things that he's been quote looking into. Still

478
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: absolutely no disclosure on any of that. So my friend

479
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbel, he's been talking, he's been releasing new podcast,

480
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: Weaponized Podcast. Let's put this up there on the screen.

481
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,239
Speaker 1: You can make fun of it if you want to,

482
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: But this is a brand new photo it's actually been

483
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: taken from the US government archives. They call this crystal

484
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: the mosl ORB. So this was a US military filmed

485
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: UFO from presumably from a drone and has been officially

486
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: designated in government files as a unidentified anomalous phenomenon at

487
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: no IDEA what roundage, Yeah, that round thing is actually

488
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: seen for So the video itself is four seconds long.

489
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: It was seen on the camera for only a single second.

490
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: That's what you get there. And let's be clear, in

491
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: the files itself, for all of the balloon people, this

492
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: stuff has been ruled out. This has been you know,

493
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: in terms of the analysis. Nobody knows what the hell

494
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know. I don't know what to

495
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: make of it. It almost seems too good to be true.

496
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: But again, I mean, nobody in the government is disputing this.

497
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't even look like anything in particular.

498
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: It literally appeared on camera like a flash. So it's

499
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: just stunning stuff. And it all comes on the heels

500
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: of the new report. And there's lot of general interest

501
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: that is happening right now with post report environment. Jeremy himself,

502
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: I spoke to him, a lot more stuff has been

503
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: is going to continue to come out, and I just

504
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: want to say, look, I know it sounds a little wacky,

505
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: and I know it sounds kind of crazy. None of

506
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: these photos are smoking gun proof, but you would also

507
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: presume that if you have a hyper advanced society that's

508
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: like this, like the idea of the actual smoking gun

509
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: proof and all of that just coming out. I mean,

510
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem all that likely. You get little glimpses

511
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: and pieces. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I don't know,

512
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: but it's it's a real mystery. Can we can we

513
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: incorporate this into the weaponization of government New Church Committee?

514
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Can we? No way, because it's one of those things

515
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: where it's this is so much deeper than that, Like

516
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: in terms of the car apartment. I always think about

517
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: this John Podesta, whatever you think about the guy, he

518
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: was a big UFO guy. Actually yeah, he was chief

519
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: of staff to Bill Clinton and he wrote an intro

520
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: to a UFO book and he was like, look, I

521
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: tried to get to the bottom of this. He's like,

522
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: I'm a UFO guy. I've always been interested in UFOs.

523
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's actually fully admitted this on camera. He said,

524
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: I tried to get to the bottom of it, and

525
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: they wouldn't tell me that's out there. You can go

526
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and look at the clip itself. Podesta himself of White

527
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: House Chief of Staff. He literally tried to corral the

528
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: IC to give him the information and they didn't give

529
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: it to him. There have been a variety of people

530
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: like that who have been in senior government officials. Assistant

531
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense Christopher Mellen, He's talked about the same thing.

532
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: He's like, there's a lot of stuff in there. He's like,

533
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: but you know it's not coming out. So the highest

534
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: levels of elected office, and even they a money of them,

535
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: they have no idea what's going on. We'll see. I

536
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: take a lot of pride and the guys like Ryan Graves,

537
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: he was the pilot, one of those pilots. I believe

538
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: he observed the gimbal Ufo. He actually said he was

539
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: almost arrested for coming out and speaking out about his

540
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: experience with the gimbal Whatever ever happened with the dude

541
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: who ran the website and how does tell like house

542
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: runs that also, nobody knows what the hell happens to

543
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: that guy. They FBI broke into his house, no knock warrant.

544
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 1: Actually no, it wasn't FBI. It was like Navy Special whatever,

545
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the Naval Criminal Department NCIS literally went in and stormed

546
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: in without a warrant U. They searched, seized all of

547
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: his stuff, his servers, private phones, all that didn't give

548
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: it back to him. Still to this day, we have

549
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: no idea what happened. And he basically runs a website

550
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: that has these like photos show you know from area

551
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: fifty one and be similar photos to what we just

552
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: showed you for example. And look, I get it. I

553
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: know this sounds crazy. I know that said this is

554
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: all true. Nobody's disputing that video. And we're talking about

555
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: members of Congress and all this stuff that are saying

556
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: this who have access that are saying, actually there's debris,

557
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: that's what he says. And he says it hasn't raised

558
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: any questions. But I mean, look, we have questions, whether

559
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: he does or not. We definitely I need to see it.

560
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: We have been tracking somewhat and you guys have probably

561
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: been tracking as well. This big fight between two giants

562
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: of conservative media's Stephen Crowder on one side and Daily

563
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Wire led by Ben Shapiro on the other side. Another

564
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: player in this whole drama has been Candice Owens, who

565
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: is now employed by The Daily Wire and who has

566
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: been doing her own videos and appearance with Tim Poole

567
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: talking about this whole thing, and you know, really slamming

568
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Crowder and talking about what a betrayal this was. And

569
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Speaker 1: I think she called it a quote unquote bitch move.

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00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: That's but I can't really do it. It is a

571
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: bitch move. I can't really just do that. But the

572
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: latest charge against Crowder is that he is basically now

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Speaker 1: with exposing these these terms of this contract, that he's

574
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Speaker 1: basically a socialist. Take a listen to what she had

575
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: to say. I think that people are really seeing just

576
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: how nasty what you did was. And I think that

577
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: I would hope that you would come to terms to

578
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: the fact that you owe everybody an apology, that this

579
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: was never necessary, that you can start whatever company you want.

580
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: You don't get to step in like a socialist, and

581
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: it is socialists like these are the demands that you hear,

582
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: and people are trying to establish a union. When the

583
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: Amazon workers have walked out because they have decided that

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00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: they are worth more, that they should have three hour

585
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: lunch breaks, they've gotten their contract from Amazon, and they

586
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: realize that they are lunch breaks for only one hour,

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00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and that they're required to show up to work, and

588
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: they think they should be able to work from home

589
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: for three days a week post COVID, and they walk

590
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: out and they want to stage a union. And this

591
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: is the big con. It's Amazon. No. I mean, I

592
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: was with you on the bitch Move canvas. Why did

593
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: you have to go so far as call a socialist?

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: So obviously the Amazon part is going to trigger me,

595
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: because this woman clearly has no idea what conditions are

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00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: like for where houseworkers at Amazon. The idea that they

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: get to work from home or they even get a

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00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: lunch break, you know, let alone fighting for a three out. No,

599
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: that is not what's going on there whatsoever. So that

600
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: eared and also the whole concept of like, oh, this

601
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: is so outrageous that you would band together with your

602
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: fellow workers to have a voice in your own workplace

603
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: which you spend a majority of hours of your life at.

604
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Obviously I find that atrocious. But I will say, Sager,

605
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: one of the things that was always amusing to me

606
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: about this fight is, you know, Crowder and Shapiro and

607
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Candice Owens, these are all died in well capitalists, blame

608
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: free market all this stuff, and ultimately what Crowder was

609
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: talking about, even though I think, you know, this is

610
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: a total setup. It was like a cynical move to

611
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: start his own thing. But he's talking about provisions in

612
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: a labor contract and what is fair and unfair to workers,

613
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: as if any of these people in him in particular,

614
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: have ever really expressed concern or encouraged anything like the

615
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: banning of non competes from the Biden administration, Like there's

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00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: no track record there of caring about labor conditions in

617
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: the past. So in a way, she does kind of

618
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: have a point here of like, I clearly disagree with

619
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: their ideology, but what Crowder is claiming to stand up

620
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: for in this whole fight is very much inconsistent with

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Speaker 1: the ideology he supposedly holds. Well. It's also you know,

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00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: she also said something which really has me curious. She goes,

623
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Stephen has a lot going on, yeah, And I was like,

624
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Yeah, And she said something like,

625
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: I think we should all pray for him right at

626
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: this point, just let it all out. I gotta know.

627
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm transfixed at a lot too, just to see exactly

628
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: what's going on with this. I will say it seems

629
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: incredibly bizarre. At first, I was kind of a crowder

630
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I could see him like,

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00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would sign that contract. You know,

632
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: the idea of especially the tech censorship thing and all that.

633
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: I get where the Daily Wire was coming from. But

634
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's a term sheet, right, so

635
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: it's not even like it was a contract that said.

636
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: The more you think about it, like taping the phone

637
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: call of your friend, and you could also so you

638
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: can hear the betray when Ben and when Jeremy, especially Ben,

639
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: when they talk about it. I'm like, man, that's well,

640
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: that's screwed up. The timeline that Ben lays out of.

641
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: You had registrate website, you had a term sheet for months,

642
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: you register this stop big Con website, and then you

643
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: set up the phone call that you record. It's very

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Speaker 1: clear this was like a cynical market play. Ultimately, it

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Speaker 1: was very capitalist of him. I mean that's you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think what he is is after here. I think

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Speaker 1: that seems incredibly incredibly clear now. But yeah, it's going

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Speaker 1: to continue to be ugly because she is effectively sort

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Speaker 1: of threatening and blackmailing him with revealing some sort of

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Speaker 1: information that I guess he you know, wouldn't want out

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Speaker 1: and that she got from quote unquote sources. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see where it all goes. But you know, part of

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Speaker 1: why it's brought these are huge players, Like we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: this is a fifty million dollar contract over four years.

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Speaker 1: The amount of money, the amount of influence they have

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Speaker 1: in terms of the conservative ecosystem is massive. And I

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Speaker 1: do think even though Crowder is not a noble actor here,

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Speaker 1: you know, Daily Wire probably spends a lot of ad

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Speaker 1: dollars on YouTube. I don't doubt that they have you know,

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Speaker 1: people high up at YouTube that they're able to call.

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Speaker 1: Do they have insights into okay, what can you say

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Speaker 1: and what can't you say? And how to walk the

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Speaker 1: line to make sure they don't get demonetized, that they

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Speaker 1: don't get suppressed in the algorithm. I think those are

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Speaker 1: like decent questions to ask. But again, I don't really

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Speaker 1: think Crowder is like a noble actor here in terms

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Speaker 1: of cecil dynamic. I don't think anybody is particularly noble. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and also shows you the hell a lot of money involved.

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Speaker 1: It also just shows you also by the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: whenever people accuse us or whatever of doing here's a

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Speaker 1: perfect example. I was like, if you're willing to go

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Speaker 1: all the way and read ads for gold and do

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Speaker 1: sponsorships and really go into it, that's actually what it

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Speaker 1: looks like. In terms of our business model, which is

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Speaker 1: mostly in subscriber funded. We don't do host red ads

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Speaker 1: or any of the other stuff. Never just to give

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Speaker 1: you you're talk to advertise exactly, it's just auto generated

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Speaker 1: ads and subscriber yes, so just to give people an

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Speaker 1: idea of how much money exactly we're leaving on the

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Speaker 1: table knowingly in favor of independence, and this is exactly why.

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Speaker 1: So I also want to put that out there in general.

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Speaker 1: Like with the whole situation, I really do think like

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Speaker 1: for me, it's the personal betrayal of Crowder and the

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Speaker 1: way that he has behaved. Because there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who I hate in his business, people who

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Speaker 1: actively talk smack and like all this. I would still

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Speaker 1: never do any of that to them. It's just not right,

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Speaker 1: like conducting yourself this way, especially to try and to

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Speaker 1: make a profit. There was a genuine, genuine disservice here

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Speaker 1: that was done. I think that's a completely different story.

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Speaker 1: But the more that I see it, he betrayed friends

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. To me, that's all wash your hands, yeah,

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Speaker 1: grow smooth, very gross, smooth alight, all right, we'll see

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Speaker 1: y'all later