1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: All right this way up at Angela Yee. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm Angela Yee, and Jasmine from the Jasmine Brand is 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: here and mister Vegas is here. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah in New York. We love seeing you in New York. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, one gifts one always a pleasure. 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: You were here for New Years right, Yeah? 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, myself, ding Dong, Serrani, some of the artists. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: How was that, how was celebrating New Year's in New York? 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 3: Was a real vibe, man, it was crazy, of course, 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 3: you know, you know the concert was straight action like 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: ding Ding Dong, Brinoto energy, Serrani Vega said. It was 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: a real good lineup Wayne Wonder. It was a real vibe. 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: I was in. We were in Saint Martin, so we 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: would have been there. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: It was really cool. It was a nice way to 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: ring in the New Year. You know that those you know, 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Wayne Wonder is like one of the best singers out 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: of Jamaica. So okay, so you really really, you know, 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: held it down and. 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: You got all your FIU gear. You're not playing around. 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because it's kind of I can't judge 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: the weather. You're in New York, so I just chose 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: to put on something warmish. 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: So I saw that you got your degree. Yeah, sociology 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: and anthology stology. 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, what made you? What made you choose that as 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: a major. 28 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Because I traveled so much and I'm always coming across 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: different you know, cultures, and you know, I'm trying to 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 3: learn more about how the world functions of people are 31 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: all different. Society, you know, uperate, you know, So you 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: know that's why I chose to major in sociology and anthropology. 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: That is so interesting. 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really dope. And during the pandemic, right, you 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: got you did you get your GED? 36 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Also? 37 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: I got my GD first because I dropped out of 38 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: of high school at an early age. I think when 39 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: I was like thirteen, I stopped going to school and I 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: was like when I was thirteen, So I'm because you know, 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: it's a social media era. I know, you know, I'm 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: always on the on the internet talking, you know, so 43 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be better able to convey my 44 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: message and be more intellectual. And I think what I 45 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: speak about, I speak about a lot of social issues. 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: So I start to re educate myself and learn more about, 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 3: you know, the things that I like to speak about. 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: And also having kids, you can't have them nowhere more 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: than right, you trying to help them. 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: Well, that's still going to happen. My kids are really 51 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: smarter than me. 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah they're supposed to be though, but you got to 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: be able to, you know, keep trying them. 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So at thirteen, you dropped out of high school. 55 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: So what did you start doing? Then? At thirteen? 56 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: I started working. I worked at a gas station and 57 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: I was pumping guests, selling guests, and then I left 58 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: that and I started doing music, started going to the studio, right, 59 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: you know, so I've been going to the studio for like, 60 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: you know, I was going to the studio for years 61 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: until I got the break in nineteen ninety seven. 62 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: That is what a long career that you've had to 63 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: by the. 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: Way, and I broke in my twenties. 65 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. And so during that time, like, what 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: did your. 67 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: Family think for you to drop out of school and 68 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: then you just in the studio. 69 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: Well, my mom, I grew up with my mom and also, 70 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: you know, my dad died when I was in the 71 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: first first form, which is seventh grade. 72 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so my dad. 73 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: Passed away then, so it was just my mom. You know, 74 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 3: you know, my mom wanted me to be like some 75 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: you know, doctor or whatever, but I think music is 76 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: in that thing, you know. So she was like, one 77 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: time she wrote me a letter. Time was like costing 78 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: me out, say oh you cruff, yeah, going to anything good, 79 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: you know. But then it happened and she was like, 80 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: you know, she. 81 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Said, take it back, rip that letter up. 82 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but music doesn't seem like something that is so 83 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: attainable too, because a lot of people want to, you know, 84 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: be in the music business, especially at a young age, 85 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: and so it's something special that has to happen for 86 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: you to be able to break through. It's not because 87 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: it is talent that's the foundation of it, but then 88 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: it's just more than that. So who are some people 89 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: that helped you out early on? 90 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 3: Well, of course I'm done ute, I'm a DJL of Jamaica, 91 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: you know, was a real good youth. Of course, stone 92 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Love we poll from stone Love. Stonelove is like one 93 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: of the biggest sound systems in Jamaica. So so Weepo 94 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 3: actually sent me to music school, sent me to learn 95 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: to sing on key and all that stuff, and you 96 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: voice training and all that stuff. So he was real 97 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: inspirational in my career. At an early age when I 98 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: just started. And then it was like Jeremy Hardin who 99 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: did zim Zima with Binhi Man, right, and then it 100 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: was Danny Brown who had Headside. So you know, but 101 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: trust me, it was a really struggle prior to get 102 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: in those songs because you have to be like hanging 103 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: out at the studio. It's not like nowhere you can 104 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: just get a bit off the internet and you sing 105 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: a song. Back in MD after they had a studio 106 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: git and you had to friend the security, and the 107 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: security got to be cool. You got to send me 108 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: to buy some lunch. You know. You become a little 109 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: send out, you know, and if you're cool with it, 110 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: you know, you may get inside the studio yard. When 111 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: you get inside the studio yard, now, if a producer 112 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: is passing and you were like singing a song, he 113 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: like said, yoh a song you know, hm on no 114 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: no no no no no no no, no killing me. 115 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: You know, he was like, hey by you know, so 116 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: in me send you to the studio. 117 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: And it's also rare for a song to cross over 118 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: to become a national head, right and so for you, 119 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: you know, what was your first international head hands It 120 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: was headtime on Okay, because that feels like still so current. 121 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Everybody samples it, everybody still plays that song, and I'm like, 122 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: that can't be the first. 123 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: You know, what year was that? What year was heads High? 124 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: Tell her what head high is about? Because we had 125 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: a conversation about this. 126 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: Well heads it's like in Jamaica, you know, like it 127 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: was a table or sexist time. 128 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 4: I told you, Okay, I did not get that from 129 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 4: that song. 130 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: But what headsi is just more than that's ity' saying not, 131 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: you know, do not do it to achieve your goals, 132 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: like you have to stoop low to achieve whatever you're 133 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: trying to do. You can work hard for what you want. 134 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: So it's more than just. 135 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: It's a double meaning. 136 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: It's more than just being greater given head Okay, yeah. 137 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: It's it's it's more than just saying, you know, don't 138 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: sucker body. It's more than it's like, yo, hold your 139 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: head high. 140 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: How did you come up with that concept? 141 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: Well, my nieces, you know, my two nieces. They came 142 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: on one day from school and they were telling me 143 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: about a girl at school at Meadowbrook High School where 144 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: they caught doing something under the desk with a guy, 145 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: and I was biskally telling them like like well on 146 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: my head high, I know that reach, you know. So 147 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: we just started missing. So I had the course heads 148 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: killed let me do you know. And then when I 149 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: went to Donny Brown, he gave me the beat and 150 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: I went to my cousin kirkterial house, and you know, 151 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: I started doing the verses. 152 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's really fascinating. I did not know that backstory. 153 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. It actually came out of a 154 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: good place, and I wasn't. As I said before, it 155 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: was not just you know, doing sockerbody. 156 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: Song because I think over here, like a lot of 157 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: times we hear songs and we don't know, like people 158 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: just sing along. 159 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: They don't know what it's about. 160 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: A lot of songs, Yeah, just sing along and the 161 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: angels like you know what that means. 162 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I remember one time I write from 163 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: the from the Billboard Billboard magazine nothing. She said, Oh, 164 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: this is a good song. Is not going to cross 165 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: over because it's talking about girls must not give head 166 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: and they love to do that. She said, they loved 167 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: America's all right, Well this is not just a head song. 168 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: That's that's there's a lot of songs that crossed over 169 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: here that people had no idea. Now it's also very 170 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: competitive write what it is what you do. So do 171 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: you remember like your first time clashing with other artists too, 172 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: because that's something that to this day it's part of 173 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: the culture. 174 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Though. 175 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: Well, I used to clash before I got my break. 176 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: I actually the first time I I, you know, sang 177 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: on a sound system, I clashed with like the DJ 178 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: in the ear that was the Body's DJ. It's like 179 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: it was the best. So my first time holding a microphone, 180 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: I clashed with an artist, with someone who was really 181 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: really good. And now the people were like blo, blo, bloe. 182 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: It's like what, I can't do this? And then and 183 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: then you know it's a Then years after no, I 184 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: think twenty twenty three, I just had a lyrical showed 185 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: on with you know. One of the down sides I got. 186 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Them were not name it names or. 187 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: The well internet in okay okay. 188 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: And then how important is it for you to be 189 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: involved now because you've been talking about furthering your education 190 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: right and also having a voice. But politics, you know, 191 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to Jamaica and when it comes to 192 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: international you're traveling all over the place. How important is 193 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: it for you to be involved with that because some 194 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: people feel like music is strictly entertainment. Let's just keep 195 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: it there. But you know you've been using your platform 196 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: in other ways. 197 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: Also, Well, it's difficult to speak politics because I think 198 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: Jamaicans were so conformed to like, you know, the parties 199 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: that are involved in politics, like the the PMP party. 200 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: People are just so confirmed. You know, your mom used 201 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: to support that party, your dad used to support a party, 202 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: so you become a part of that world movement. So 203 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 3: it's kind of difficult to get to people to let 204 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: them know what's really really you know, what we can 205 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: do to make our society better, because they will more 206 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: listen to the politicians than the mister Vegas. 207 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair enough. 208 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: I feel like though, like even you said the timer, 209 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: Yemmy Alladay, we had our actually on my podcast lip Service. 210 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing. 211 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: And so how did you in your travels say, okay, 212 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: this is somebody bright Futures the name of the song 213 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: that you want to work with. 214 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: She does afro pop. Right, how did you guys. 215 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: Like meet up with each other and decided Because I 216 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: was saying that I was telling you before we started this. 217 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: When she did the podcast, people had issues with her 218 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: talking about like sexual things, and you know, she was like, 219 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: this is the first time I've ever even spoken like this, 220 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: and people are going to have such an issue with 221 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: me back home, and they did, you know, but I 222 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: think it's important to be able to even discuss that 223 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: because that's part of the world that we're in today. 224 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: I think it's because of the religious aspect of it 225 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: in a lot of these countries. I remember Conscience just 226 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: did a song with a guy from one of these 227 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: African countries and he did a weed song and they 228 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: like wanted to like prosecute him. What. Yeah, so you 229 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: remember Nigeria is like a you know, maybe half mostly 230 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: more half Christian Nash So they're really really just you know, 231 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: steadfast in that vibe. But yeam me Aladay, you know, 232 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: she's really cool. You know. I did the song with 233 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: a Nigerian producer. I'm young Alf and you know, my 234 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: boy sent it to yea me Alady. My boy uncle 235 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: sent it to Yeam Aladay and she loved the song 236 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: and she jumped on it and. 237 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: You guys found the video in Guadeloup. 238 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we wanted to get the whole African vibe 239 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: because a lot of Africans, you know, it's like it's 240 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: like an African connection. I didn't realize that we are 241 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: so you know, spread out, you know, African descendants, we 242 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: are so spread out all over the French islands, you know, 243 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: not just the Caribbean, not just in America here where, 244 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: so all over the French islands. And you know when 245 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: you go there, you know you can feel that, you 246 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: can see yourself and the. 247 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: People look at that anthropology degree coming in. What are 248 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: some things right that that's helped you with actually getting 249 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: your degree and studying FIU and getting that that degree. 250 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: I think, I think because I I've been traveling the 251 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: world and I and I love to do research. You know, 252 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: I enjoy knew that I researched religion, you know, research 253 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: Asian chemic, you know what they called Egypt. You know. 254 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 3: I used to just travel and go to like the 255 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: Mask and different places and the museum in in England 256 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: and you know in the Vatican and those places. When 257 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: I go to these place and I see the artifacts, 258 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: I want to know where these artifacts originated from. So 259 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: then I started learning about this stuff. So I was 260 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: more intrigued, you know, and it kind of helped me 261 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: during my studies. 262 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: Does it change the music to sometimes like just even 263 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: the topics that you might want to talk about are 264 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: the people you want to collaborate with? 265 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: I think, I think in I think I try to 266 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: separate Clifford, which is my right. 267 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Name, Clifford. You know I got the same name as 268 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: method man, I was smith. 269 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to get some of his publishing. 270 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: So so I think Clifford is like that person and 271 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: then mister Vegas. There's like three differ and personally the 272 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: intellectual Clifford is like the student or the or the 273 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: person that you know, the sociologist, and mister Vegas is 274 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: like the girls man broke it down at him. Think, 275 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: then you have Subi the Warrior, who's like the war board, 276 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: who's like the antagonist. You know what I'm saying. 277 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: We see you were antagonizing people antagon funny too. 278 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: So then I'm like, Sube the Warrior, I'm gonna make 279 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: like a movie. You know, I'm writing a script for 280 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: like a movie. We're this antagonist. How did I become 281 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: the antagonist? Sube the Warrior become became, you know, such 282 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: an antagonist become such an antagonist where people are like, yo, 283 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: I don't like him, I can't take him. 284 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? 285 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: I think there's years of overcoming the obstacles in dancehall 286 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: because of the competitive nature and the way people would 287 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: like to stigmatize your name in dancehoud and try to 288 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: tear it down, and it's like a crab in the 289 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: barrel mentality. So to survive that, you know, and to 290 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: be at a place where I don't care anymore or 291 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: you can't stop me anymore, because nowhere in a digital 292 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: era where you have a voice. Back then when I 293 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: did not have a voice, because you have to be 294 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: very careful. Back then, what you said you understand because 295 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: people were like boo, you off the stage of people 296 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: will not play a record, you know, But now they're 297 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: you know, you have outlets. You don't need someone to 298 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: tell you can't put your music on Spotify. 299 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair enough. Yeah, it's true because the fans 300 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: do take sides. 301 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: Too big time. But then we have fans all over 302 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: the world, so all my fans no converge and and 303 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: you know they's stream my music. So if you're there 304 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: just talking about beef. You know. You know I can 305 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: show you at yell, but you're not streaming, and I'm 306 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: still streaming heavily. 307 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: And we've seen a lot of people make up and 308 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: then we've seen people try to intervene with your beefs 309 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: and try to get you to make up. And but 310 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: you know, it could be a big thing. I mean, 311 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm a man my business. 312 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I only have one beef. Still, 313 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: many other artists I'm cool. But of course, you know, 314 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: artists are gonna take sides, right, you understand because you 315 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: know they want to. They don't want to lose their 316 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: fan base, you see, because I mean, like Yo, Angela, 317 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm taking sight of Angela and then I can benefit 318 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: from your fan base as well, right you know, So 319 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: some artists you know, will do that. But I'm just 320 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: like a straight shooter. You know. If you love me, 321 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: it just love me. If you don't love me, that's it, 322 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: you know. I still I'm not the Sigma meal mm hmm. 323 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: Another song and video driver, you know, we like that. 324 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: And we actually on my podcasts recently had a woman 325 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: on she actually does dick writing classes. 326 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: Do you writing? Yeah? Do you writing? 327 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Sorry? 328 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 329 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: So she teaches women how to be better on tap. Okay, 330 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: how important is that for you? 331 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: Well? A girl, a girl, a girl spraying my body 332 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: already body, my body, body is a penis. 333 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: She sprained it. 334 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know when a girl turned back with 335 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: you and come, you know if if you don't have 336 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: a big long one up in out of the ear, 337 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: so you know, she can't miss some you know, sprainging 338 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: a penis. So you pis in trouble, say you have 339 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: to be very gearful. 340 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: So that happened to you? 341 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a spring body. 342 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: What was the cure or what? How do they treat you? 343 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: What do they tell you to do? 344 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: Scream? 345 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know there's you know, different treatment and still 346 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: but you know, not to read a medical doctor tell 347 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: me some things are do on one. I'm gonna just 348 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: do it. Fix the book, fixed it bag. 349 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: I want to say, there's the points star are pinky. 350 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: And she actually told us a story about how she 351 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: went up and too high and came down. Yeah, and 352 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: it's like a kind of a temporarily broken penis. 353 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: That can happen. Yeah, that can happen because some girls 354 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: don't read it. Know, for ride, you know the no no. 355 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: For right, but that's why you gotta take classes. 356 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good that that woman is doing the classes. 357 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And then I'm I'm gonna finish it with this. 358 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: She said that he had a kind of one and 359 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: the whole thing filled up with blood. Sorry guys, Yeah, 360 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: in the scenario with this woman, she says she had 361 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: a kind of one and the whole thing filled up 362 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: with blood because she went up and came down. 363 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: Maybe that person like a hematom or something. Yeah, out, 364 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: but I can I can miss up circulation in the 365 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: pen because it's not just Hanna alone can fracture your foot, 366 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: and you have other body parts that can fracture as well. 367 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: So if if you have a real we are Jommy 368 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: Cannon and so you know, so we eat a lot 369 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: of you know, grown provision and thing there, and we 370 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: had a lot of fruits that melon, watermelon, See that 371 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: white part of the melon. We eat that part of 372 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: the melon. You know, it helps you to your erection. 373 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: So we always have some you know, firm erection for 374 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: the girl. Is that true? 375 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Never seen that research anywhere? 376 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: What watermelon? 377 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 378 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, money yeah, money, it works, man, it works. Man. 379 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: And well, well, well you have a thing called figure 380 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: as well the fig. You know them things that give 381 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: you real firm erection, and then you have the roots. 382 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: When did you learn all this shoe studies and true studies. 383 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: And remember that we have to we have to sample 384 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: the thingdom as well. So when we sample, they am 385 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: like I was sampled the watermelon, and I see you 386 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: are they react to it. I understand. And then the 387 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: sample the fig and you realize the fig, you know, 388 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: kipenis get up, you know, more regular than it now'm 389 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: gobota get up, especially when you're getting older. 390 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is true when you get older, because 391 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: you guys can only go one time. 392 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: As you get older, sometimes people need ten minutes. 393 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, let's say the women, you know, they want more 394 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: when when they reach over age. And let my ears 395 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: know that you girls get craving. 396 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: That is true. 397 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: They say women hit their peak at a later time 398 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: than men like you already peaked. 399 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: Right if you don't get the menopause, I guess. 400 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, once we get there. Now let's talk about 401 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: the song Baddest. Okay, so now Baddest with that song. 402 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: I actually really enjoyed that we were listening to that 403 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: before you came in here. Just now so now who 404 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: is that seems like kind of like a it's a parody, 405 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: right type of song? 406 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: What do you I was also. 407 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: Reading that a lot of women now one of the 408 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: main surgeries that they're doing here is getting a reverse 409 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: BBL and like getting rid of you know, yeah, things 410 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: that they're putting into their body because they're realizing that 411 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: it can be harmful and some people just don't like 412 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: the way it looks, the way that they're clothes fit anymore. 413 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Was that ever a big thing in Jamaica, because I 414 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: don't feel like BBLS was ever like a. 415 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of girls doing it now they are, 416 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: but I think they have better doctors now. Girls used 417 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 3: to do the little thing that they put inside I 418 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: guess what they call them, the shots, the shots, the 419 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: butt shots or whatever they used to do. I think actually, 420 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, I think girls came forward and they said 421 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: I would almost kill them. So so I think less 422 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: girls are doing that now, but now they're finding I 423 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: think more girls are doing surgery. They're going to the 424 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: Dominica Republic and as we had to you know, get 425 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: those you know, the butt lifts. So sometimes you see 426 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: them it's like two musquita feet and just. 427 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: You know, the mosquito feet. 428 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: Look like a table like the butty big soick. 429 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on it? 430 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's dangerous. I think it's dangerous, 431 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: you know, but you know, to eat their own and 432 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: if the girls them feel insecure, and I think just 433 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: the world that we're live in now, people feel like 434 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 3: they have to do these things to be accepted. It's 435 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: like like a casing point. If you look at, you know, 436 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: the era that Stevie Wonder broke and rich Alds and 437 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 3: those artists that you know, physical issues, what you call 438 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: it blindness or whatever. Those artists, we didn't see them, 439 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, before they got the break, before they broke 440 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: as artists. So we heard these songs and we're like, yo, 441 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: Steven Wanda is the greatest, and well, look tell me 442 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: when it was the last time a blind artist broke. 443 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: It's like people these days are like they're more interested 444 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 3: in how you look. It's not so much about the 445 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: talent anymore. It's not such so much about the music. 446 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 3: I did a song there that day with a kid nigerboy. 447 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: He's blind. He's like one of the greatest singers in 448 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: dance all right, Now, but I think people are more 449 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: interested in how people look, you know, these days, like 450 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell when last I see, Like, I. 451 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: Think for women that's true more than for men. 452 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: Men, everyone, everyone, Yeah you think so you. 453 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: Think you care how men look because I've always felt 454 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: like when men, y'all could get away with a lot 455 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: more than we could women. It's like we got to 456 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: hear them makeup done. They tell you got to lose weight, 457 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: you got to look a certain way. I feel like 458 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: men come out and be like, yeah, I'm ugly and 459 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: make it part. 460 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: Of the well. 461 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: Girls love ugly man. But you know, it's still it's 462 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: still an attraction, you know, like you know, you know 463 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But look, if you look at like 464 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: physical disabilities, the when was the last time we saw 465 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: an artist right kind of physical disability broke? People are 466 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: more interested now they're seeing all it's like a turn 467 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: off for people if they realize that something is wrong 468 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: with you that you have no control over. 469 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I can't agree with that. 470 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: So that's the reason why people, to answer your question, 471 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: that's the reason why so many girls are doing you 472 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: know them type of surgeon and even men these days 473 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: doing ear plug You know, man, put some from not 474 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: in here, you know, because of the pressure of the world. 475 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: You know, people want to look good. 476 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, why don't they just shave their head 477 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: bald already because it do still look. 478 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: A little because I feel like head looks good. 479 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: They're also doing the waiste trainers and everything too. 480 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: Everything everybody's trying to look good for the camp. 481 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: That's because everything's now and you can see things so 482 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: much more. 483 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Men are going on Instagram and using filter. So just 484 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: check that. Everybody trying to look good. 485 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 2: But you've managed to stay in shape through the years. 486 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a time and you didn't like 487 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: how you look? 488 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: Like? I gotta no, man, I embrace I'm getting old. 489 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: He's like a blessing, you know, because I I just 490 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: know that we're here for a time. Some answer. So 491 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: I just try to live my life, you know, and 492 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: live my life a positive way right where. You know, 493 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: if if when my number is you know, when my 494 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: number call up, I just already I just know that 495 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: I live a good life like witness and safe. Tomorrow 496 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: is judgment. D ask me what did I do? 497 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Now? You know. 498 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: I was saying this the other day when everything was 499 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: happening with versus right, I feel like when it because 500 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: the dancer one was my favorite one. I thought it 501 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: was like the most exciting one during the pandemic. I 502 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: know they were live ones, and that was the first 503 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: live one when people were in the room together, and 504 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: I felt like they needed to do more of those. 505 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: Is that something that you've ever been approached about or 506 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: that you would entertain? 507 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: And who do you think would be a good opponent. 508 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: The only person I could see that could be on 509 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: the same stage with mister Vegas is he would have 510 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: to be Shampaul. But he has more international hits than 511 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: mister Vegas. But it would be a good thing because 512 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: we have so many dance all songs. It's just that 513 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: his dance all songs are more crossover. But mister Vegas, 514 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: if you go pull up heads eye, broke it down, 515 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: had to walk gallis. I am blessed. 516 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 2: Themselves that I am blessed every morning on my. 517 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: Way to work. 518 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: But Shampaul is not is not into that clashing thing. 519 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 2: He's not into He kind of thought about it for 520 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: a hart second, but and I. 521 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: Guess they would want to put Shampaul with Shaggy, which 522 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: I don't think is a good match because Shaggy is 523 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: more like like oh me, It's more like. 524 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: Like pop right, and they're friends with each other too, Yeah, man, 525 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: a really cooler. 526 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: But outside of that, I think the matchup that they 527 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: had with the two artists that they used, being the 528 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: Man and the other artists, I think that was a 529 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: good match up. 530 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you are so. 531 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: So I think I think that was good and and actually, 532 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: you know, I think versus need you know, should give 533 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: the dance artists or the dancer community more props. 534 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's really where it stems from, right. 535 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: The whole on the stage thing where Jadakis and Fat 536 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: Joe and everyone is doing it now when Jadakis almost 537 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: killed the man on stage, you know, all that all 538 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: that is coming from dance. So that is that is it? 539 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: That is Ninja Man and Shabarankin right there, and know 540 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: so I'm saying that is that is all a thing 541 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: that is dance, all culture where we go on the stage. 542 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to do at Sting this year, 543 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: but then the artists run away from the clash. I 544 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: wanted to bring back that, right. 545 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: Are there things you feel like you can't say now too, 546 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: because people are a lot more politically correct. There are 547 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: songs that, like we said, people are realizing what was 548 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: being said and and you know, I feel like people 549 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: are very direct in dancehall. 550 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: But are there things you feel like? Man, I can't 551 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: even say stuff like that anymore. 552 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: A lot of stuff. But good that we have the Internet. 553 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: And even the Internet is a problem to say stuff 554 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: because people can just report your page that I ever 555 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: put my page every day every time I try to 556 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: make a post and say, oh this, this, this, this 557 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: type of language has been reported and I'm like, what 558 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: is in this? It is like people just keep reporting 559 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: my page for no reason. So you have to be careful. 560 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: You can't say damn, you can't say pussy, you can't 561 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: say none of those stuff anymore. You can be understandable 562 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: damn no, I mean dance all though, like in dance 563 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: you know, patron and ladies, they could say that and 564 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: it's authentic. It's just like yo rah, it's a shabar 565 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: rankin you know if animate you know skinnote, pum pum 566 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: and girls love them things there, But now you say 567 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: them things like you banned from the radio and Jamaica. 568 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: You banned from social media. It's like there's no outlet 569 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: to be authentic anymore. So I kind of kill the 570 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: creativity of the music. 571 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: Yeah I could, but I guess if you're super creative 572 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: you could figure out ways around it too. 573 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: There's nowhere on just trying to be like hardcore. It's 574 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 3: like flicks, time to we have sex, like sex had 575 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: to go right there, fakes, time to do something, time 576 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: to do the romance. 577 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: Comedian. 578 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that things are better for women now 579 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: in dancehall? 580 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Because I know that from a lot of women who 581 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: I've spoken to, it's been really tough, like just even 582 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: especially way back in the day. They're doing a whole 583 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: documentary too right now, Assistant Nancy and what it was 584 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: like for her getting started. And I've spoken to a 585 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: lot of different women, obviously Spie and See. Yeah, but 586 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: it's been kind of difficult with women in dance all. 587 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Do you think things are finally getting better? 588 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: Lady Saul kicked down the gates, the barriers that blocked 589 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: women from getting prime time, from getting prime fees. Lady 590 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: Saw was the person that kicked off the the you know, 591 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: they were disparty that was going on in danceall. I know, 592 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: females are getting more money than even some of the 593 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: males are male artists, and females are closing concerts and 594 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: get in prime time and getting more songs and more 595 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: hit songs, and their songs are playing in the danceaull 596 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: not just like in the early parts. You know, So 597 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: Lady's eye is the is the true pioneer of what 598 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: you know, the women are, you know, you know, reaping 599 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: now the success that the women are having. Know, she 600 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: she trust me. She came out a real bad She 601 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: was not just like, oh I'm going to work earlier, 602 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to work in the female section. She was 603 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: kicking it. She was kicking people down. To this day, 604 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: she's like the champion, She's like the boss, the boss. 605 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 3: I fight so much for her when she went to church, 606 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: I became like an antagonist to her as well, because 607 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: I just know that, oh, she's so good, you know, 608 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: and you know, I was just hoping that, you know, 609 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: she would just still do dance all music, even not 610 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: to go as raw as she was, you know. 611 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: Right, maybe she could be like how Prince kind of 612 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: toned it down and didn't do certain songs. 613 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 3: Dance, gospel, dance, all gospels. Is once does gospel to dance, 614 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: it becomes too you know, complicated because the church people 615 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: are like, oh you said downsau don South Gospel. No, 616 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: we don't like dwansauns. You have to use a gospeller 617 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: dwanceau you know. But it's just music. Like I heard 618 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: Ladies so she had a song of sorry your feeling 619 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: and I did not die. She had promoted that song 620 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: it to be like a smash. Right. Well, she's great 621 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: and she has a lot to hate song, so maybe 622 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: she don't need to promote that one day. 623 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we're not mad at it. 624 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: Well, listen, is there anything else on your bucket list 625 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 2: that you haven't done yet? Because it feels like even now, 626 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: you know you even though you've been in this business 627 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: for almost thirty years, how long has it been now? 628 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: No, that's too much, too much money? 629 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: Twenty four, twenty four okay, going all right, yeah almost No. 630 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 3: I mean that's just six years a lot of time. 631 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Right, He's like, I got a lot of things 632 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: to make happen, you know, God degrees now, you know, 633 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: graduating from school, maybe going to get your doctorate or 634 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: master's next. 635 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: I'm doing music now, I'm doing. I'm focused. I'm focused 636 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: on music. I guess that's not going to make enough money, 637 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: like what music is making. I just do it for 638 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: like to motivate people to help. Like if I decide 639 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: to be like an inspiration and speak on a full 640 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: time business and. 641 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: The business is good, right, all the business is handled. 642 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, one, yeah, yeahm on. I buy a lot of 643 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: land and you know, do a lot of real estate 644 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: development and stuff like that. So I'm good there. I 645 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 3: try to save my money, you know, even though I'm 646 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: done in the stock market and it's killing me right. 647 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all down right now, which, by the way, 648 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: they say, is a good time to buy. 649 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: Just you know, I don't know. I don't I don't 650 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: know where it's gonna tongue or drop out. 651 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: But don't sell it the low. That's one thing we 652 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: do know. When it just we be aware. 653 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: Hopefully it recovers. Man, I'm gonna be good. I'm gonna 654 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: be coming up in here like yo, angel lambugging it. 655 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: On stairs and the way I said, all right, well 656 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: I'll pray on that too then. But mister Vegas, thank 657 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: you so much. We do appreciate you for coming through, 658 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: Like I said, you know, I'm a big fan, so big. 659 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 3: Up, says man. We're supporting mister Vegas. Right, you let 660 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: the world know that Miss Vegas is a real bar is. 661 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not using no side, no, I'm playing you. 662 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: Get truth side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you. 663 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: Know the things way up for Angela, Ye, mister Vegas, 664 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: way up. 665 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: Okay,