1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports talk about some of 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the more interesting aspects of business of sports. So there's 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of cool questions. So this is a fun 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: topic to the country is finally getting the memo about 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: how amazing the sport is. I think the sky's a 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: limit for MLS. We're spending more and more of our 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: time in a digital world, and it's also becoming a 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: really powerful place for commerce. It is so nice to 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: be back and to be able to have fans back 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: in the building. So despite the chaotic schedule, and this 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: is why we do what we do. When you get 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, there's nothing better at the player for 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: the excitement and it's also for the organization sponsors a ball. 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. This is the 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports show, where we explore the big 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: money issues in the world of sports. I'm Michael vaugh 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlett Foo. You know, I'm Mike Lynch. Coming up today. 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Baseball's back. The MLB lockout ended this past week when 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: the divided players of Association voted to accept managements offer 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: the salvage a one sixty two games season that will 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: start April seven, we'll break it all down with Pedro 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: mora Fox Sports National Baseball writer at straight Ahead on 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. But first, let's look 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: at some of the top stories of the week. And 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: let's begin now with a new chapter involving the Chelsea 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Football Club news out of the Premier League. The team's owner, 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Roman Abronovich has been sanctioned by the UK government over 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Prime Minister Boris Johnson says the 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: government will continue to punish those linked to the Kremlin 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: and that there could be no safe havens for those 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: who have supported Putin's assault on Ukraine. What we've concluded 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: is that there is enough for the link between the 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Putin regime and the individuals in question to justify the 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: action and scar. What that means now is that Abramovich 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: cannot sell his club. Yeah, it's a big question mark 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: because he had been trying to unload his steak in 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the football club and it looked like from all accounts 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: it would be kind of a fire sale because he 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: was in a rush to do so, and he's trying 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: to get in before he was officially sanctioned. Now that 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: he has been sanctioned. The government says it's going to 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: provide a special license to allow Chelsea to continue to 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: operate even with the sanctions. But the sale of the 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: club and Mr Bromwich's assets, including his houses in the UK, 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: those are now blocked and if there were to be 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: any sale, the UK Treasury must grant a license in 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: order for any kind of transaction to proceed, and Bromwich 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: would not be permitted to pocket any of the proceeds 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: from any potential sale if there is one, and Lynchy 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: the club won't be able to sell new tickets to 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: any fans or sell merchandise. And that's a big shunka change. Yeah, 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: So what they're doing is they're protecting the employees and 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: the players, but they are also shielding a Brandovitch from 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: sharing in any profits from this football team. And when 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: he came out really swiftly and said he was trying 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: to sell the team, I just smelled something fishy. I said, 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: he's trying to get this thing done before sanctions has 58 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: slapped on him or or somebody has put the shackles 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: on him. And this is what's happening right now. A 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: good move by the United by the UK. Apparently he 61 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: had received multiple bids for his football club. Right, there 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: was one led by a group um that included Todd Bolli, 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: the l A Dodgers part time owner, and also there's 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: a Swiss billionaire Hans org Whiss. But I think they're 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: all considered really lower than what he would have wanted 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: to get. Well, what happens to the game now, Because 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: say what you want about Abramovich, but his club and 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: his money played a big role in soccer. Yeah, he's 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: super charged the whole era of free agents and and 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: uh buying up the most expensive players and it led 71 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: to massive salary inflation across the league. Does that go down? 72 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that it changes that. It's not like 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: it's going to reverse, but certainly there's a lot less 74 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: money being thrown around going forward. How do you feel 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: if you are a Chelsea fan, well, not only a fan, 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: but if you're a player on the team, is like, well, 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: I think, but when the summer ends is like I 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: can see a lot of guys saying, you know what, Uh, 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: it's been real, but I gotta split. You know, despite 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: all of these sanctions, the value of this franchise is 81 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: going to increase, and it will increase between now and 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: the end of the regular season. There will be a 83 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: buyer out there and a brandovich is going to Eventually, 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: someone is going to profit from the sale of this team, 85 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: when and if it ever happens. Meanwhile, Tiger Woods has 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: been inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame, and 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: he choked up talking about his late father, who instilled 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: the need to work hard and earn results. At the 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: age of fourteen and a half, we took out a 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: second mortgage so I could go out and play the 91 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: A J J Tour, Moms at home, Dad travels. If 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: you don't go out there and put in the work, 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: you don't go put in the effort. One, you're not 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: going to get the results. But two and more importantly, 95 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: you don't deserve it. Amen, Tiger. Amen. That's something that 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: I know my father and mother instilled in me. Is 97 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: like they gave me one motto. He said, boy, don't 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: embarrass me, And that's probably what Earl Woods said. The 99 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: Tiger also, uh, look, go out there, work hard. Scar Well, 100 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Michael Barr, you did good. You didn't embarrass anyone. Tiger 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Woods has had a lot of rough moments in his career. 102 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I was trying to figure out is 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: he fully retired as he partially retired? What what is 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: his status right now? No, he has told Jim Dance 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: out at the Genesis Fund. He was on an interview 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: during that broadcast that he's not done and he will 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: be coming back to play sometime in two He just 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: doesn't know when it's going to be. His trouble right 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: now is walking hills and engulf You're not allowed to 110 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: take a cart and you have to walk. So they 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: were asked they were trying to trick say, okay, let's 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: see Brookline. Is the US Open that's kind of a 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: flat course. Uh, you know the p g A. He says, guys, 114 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: don't try to pin me down. I cannot tell you 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: when I'll be back. I don't know if it's the 116 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Masters the USA, and it could be like the Greater 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Open in the middle of August, just when I'm 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: when I'm finished. So, but he has not retired. He 119 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: plans on coming back, but he will not be a 120 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: full time participant on the tour. So he's gonna pick 121 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: which tourists he's going to do based on what the 122 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: train is like pretty much yet, because that's that's his 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: problem right now, walking for four or four and a 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: half hours. That's that's difficult right now, and that's what 125 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: he's trying to condition himself to do. He said something 126 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: else during his induction into the World Golf Hall of Fame, 127 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: and he was talking about discrimination. And what he said 128 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: was there were courses where they wouldn't allow him to 129 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: be in the clubhouse. So he said, all right, so 130 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: he had to change his shoes in the parking lot. 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: And when he went to the organizers, this is before 132 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: he became Tiger Woods, this is before he became Tiger Woods, 133 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: and he said, all right, I got two questions for you. 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Where's the first t and what's the course record? And 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: and from there that's that's Tiger Woods. And and I 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: know everybody has seen the clip and I still get 137 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: a kick out of it when he was two years 138 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: old on the Mike Douglas Show and there's Bob Hope 139 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: and you know Tiger just you know, picks up the ball, 140 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: moves it closer to the Hope where he's got I 141 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: still love that clip to this day, and it always 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: thinks just the fact that Tiger Woods came up with 143 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: the term coined the trump Blazian is. Yeah. I saw him. 144 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: I saw him play actually when it was on the 145 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: a g A stands for American Junior Golf Association UM 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: and AS as a teenager, and he played here in 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Massachusetts and there was this is before social media and everything. 148 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: You just say, hey, this kid's gonna be great. Someone 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: you heard about but you've never seen. And I saw 150 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: him in person and he was built like a pencil. 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: He was a skinny little kid, but he could drive 152 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the ball. And he had an hour about him, even 153 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: at fourteen years old walking around the course and people 154 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: were just following him. They knew that this was something special. 155 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: Before we wrapped this up, we got to talk about Brady. 156 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: He is playing anymore, he's on active player all the phone. 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Let's not get ahead of ours. Let me let's explain 158 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: why we're talking about for right now. Yeah, it's in fact, 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: now that you brought it up, let's we'll tell you 160 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: why we're talking about Tom Brady. In a second, Bucks 161 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: GM Jason like, uh, he was asked, hey, what would 162 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: you do if Tom Brady said, you know what, maybe 163 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: I'll go one more year with the Tom Brady. You never, 164 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: I personally never want to completely close the door. Now. 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't have any information that suggests that he is 166 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: going to come back, but he's, uh, you know, he's 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. If a Tom Brady wants to come back, 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: we'd welcome him back. Now. The reason why we're talking 169 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady, he's taking out twenty three trademarks and 170 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: copyrights of his name because he's gonna sell some products, 171 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: everything from deodorant to the nutrition bars. You name it, 172 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, You're gonna see a lot of Tom Brady folks, skincare, candles, 173 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: I wear, jewelry, furniture, Jim Equipton, retail boutiques, protein bars, restaurants, 174 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: bottled water, food delivery, and of course there's also a 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: couple of n f T s there. Oh my candles 176 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: can candles, tom Brady lynch. But what a tom Brady candle? 177 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I can't what? What what was this? You know, we 178 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: have twelve wicks? What is I don't know. Hey, if 179 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: the smell good and the candles are good, to play good. 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's the translation. Right there, I'm looking at 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: an autograph picture here to one of my daughters said 182 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: to Katie. All the best Tom Brady, and I think 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: he signed it like in his rookie year. Should I 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: hold onto that? Yeah? You need to lock that up 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: in a safe right now. Yeah, and do your homework 186 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: so you don't lose that one. Either man actually ended up. 187 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: I don't have in my possession right now. It's in 188 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: a bank fault. He's looking at a screenshot of it. Up. 189 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Next Playball, we'll have more with Fox Sports National Baseball 190 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: writer Pedro Morris straight ahead on the Bloomberg Business of 191 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Sports Show. You can find me, by the way on 192 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Twitter at Big Bar Sports, and I'm on Twitter at 193 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Scarlett Fool and I'm on Twitter at Lynch w CVB. 194 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: And don't forget to catch our podcast Monday's, Wednesdays and 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Thursdays on all your podcast platforms, and right here on 196 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. This is the 197 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports Show where we explode up big 198 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: money issues in the world of schools. I'm Mikey Black, 199 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlett Foul, and I'm Mike Lynch. The lockout is 200 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: over Major League Baseball and the Players Association reached a 201 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: new collective bargaining agreement this past week, ending the league's 202 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: nine nine day lockout. MLB Commissioner Rob Menford address the 203 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: media after the deal was made. I know that the 204 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: last few months have been difficult. There's a lot of uncertainty. 205 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I am genuinely thrilled to be able to say that 206 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball's back and we're gonna play a hundred 207 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: and sixty two games. Let's get into the details now 208 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: with Pedro Mora. He is Fox Sports National Baseball writer 209 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: and author of How How to Beat a Broken Game, 210 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: The Rise of the Dodgers in the League on the Brink. Pedro, 211 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, sir, Thank you appreciate that. So 212 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: what happened? And we went from I don't know, man, 213 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: they might not, this might hold forward months, then all 214 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Bam, okay, we're in. Let's go see 215 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: you April seventh, opening day. What happened? Yeah, yeah, it's 216 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: a great question. I think what happened is the product 217 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: of two things. I think, for one, the two sides 218 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: were inching closer as as this week neared, you know, 219 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: slowly but surely, over the last two to three weeks, 220 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: they progressed toward the middle ground. On several of the 221 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,119 Speaker 1: key issues that the players set out to negotiating disagreement, 222 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: and so it was natural to some extent that they 223 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: were getting closer and that they could they could reach 224 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: this deal. The other thing that happened is that their 225 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Thursday represented a real deadline in a way that none 226 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: of Baseball self impost headlines really really could. The reason 227 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: the reason that was the case is because if if 228 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: the players did not and and owners did not come 229 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: to an agreement for a season, it was going to 230 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: get exponentially more complicated because they would run out of 231 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: days to stage a full season, and when there was 232 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: no full season, players would not get paid fully, and 233 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: that would create a whole separate, huge discussion within the 234 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: negotiations that was going to get much more complicated, would 235 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: have gotten more acrimonious, as we saw during the pandemic 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: shortened season. They were going to argue about pro rated 237 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: pay for for weeks to come. And so I think 238 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: everyone ultimately, you know, opted opted against that and decided 239 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: to stage with full seasons the benefit of both parties. 240 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, it'll be it'll be a little rush, there'll 241 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: be a little condensed because the season was supposed to 242 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: start March thirty one. But ultimately no one is going 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: to be too upset about the season being delayed by 244 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: one week. So they salvaged, really am you know, a 245 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: pretty good situation out of what looked like a pretty 246 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: bad one days weeks months ago. And um, you know 247 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: that's that's surprising in some ways, but it also it 248 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: also makes sense. There's a lot of money on the line. Yeah, 249 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: I would have triggered a whole new round of negotiations 250 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: about something that they wouldn't have to deal with if 251 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: it they just got something done. What I'm curious about 252 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: is the fact that the Players Association approved this deal 253 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: by vote of twelve, but all eight members of the 254 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Executive Subcommittee voted to reject it. What does that say 255 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: to you that there's some level of ambivalence, quite a 256 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: lot of ambivalence within the players camp, at at a 257 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: level of the players who are more highly compensated than 258 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: the average player. Yeah, exactly. I think that's also what 259 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: I'm most curious about, As you said, Scarlett, those those 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: executive subcommittee players, three of them have signed nine figure contracts. 261 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: All of them are you know, generationally wealthy, with thirty 262 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: seven million dollars plus in their in their bank accounts 263 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: and their baseball careers. And it's interesting that all eight 264 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: of them vot voted against it. You know. One thing 265 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: worth noting is that Garrett Cole, one of the members 266 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: of the community, told The Athletic that that the executive 267 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: sub Committee decided to stay together on that vote. So 268 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: it may not be that all eight of them actually 269 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: felt that way, but then it was a show of 270 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: strength of the committee who had done the majority of 271 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: the negotiation against the UM, against the owners, and so 272 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: that that might be what we you know, what we're 273 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: seeing there. I'm also curious about it. I think maybe 274 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: the fact will emerging time, but it seems like a 275 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: couple of the really prominent players, you know, I'm thinking 276 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: of Max jers or in Francisco Lindoor on the Mets, 277 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: we're pretty against it UM and both those players are 278 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: in that executive subcommittee, both have signed massive contracts, both 279 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: are going to be on the New York Mets, who 280 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: are going to, you know, probably be the team that 281 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: is hurt most by one new provision in the agreement, 282 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: which is a massive tax on teams who spend really 283 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: well passed the norm and that's really might only apply 284 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: to the New York Mets. So that might that might 285 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: be what which is owned by Steve Cohen. Of course players, yes, 286 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: exactly do that and so and that those players might 287 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: be seeing that, um, you know, it might be worth 288 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: it to them to wait three more weeks to get 289 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: a you know, a five percent better deal. But if 290 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: you're a major league player who has a three or 291 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: four year career making you know, making a couple million 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: dollars over that career that you've let that you've worked 293 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: for for years, is it worth a month? You know, 294 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: is it worth a month to get a little bit 295 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: more money or would you rather just play right now? 296 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And you know, as you said, it's it's there's a 297 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: disconnect in some ways between the finances of those guys 298 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: on the committee of the ranked file. So can you 299 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: declare a winner in the settlement? Well, I think, you know, 300 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: the players did better than than they have in a 301 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: long time, and so I guess you could say that's 302 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: a win, right if you're facing if you're facing the 303 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: constant paying of defeats, and you turn around and don't 304 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: get totally obliterated in negotiations, I suppose that's that's that's 305 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: the wind. But ultimately I would I would have to 306 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: say that the owners went because these are people that 307 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: are in charge of you know, profit machines, and they 308 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: did nothing. They lost nothing that will take away from 309 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: that profit machine. You know, what what the what the 310 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: players achieved, you know, in getting like arbitration pool pre 311 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: arbitration pools fifty million dollars for for players who would 312 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: accept the fells and aren't yet in the money making 313 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: phase of their career. That's fifty million dollars. That's that's 314 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: less than two million bucks per per owner, you know, 315 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: and that's just not when we're talking about how much 316 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: these these teams get from their television deals and and 317 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: happen revenue sharing. For teams that don't don't have significant 318 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: television deals, the stakes of it is just low to them. 319 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: You know. Yes, the players got new money, they obtained 320 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: new money from the owners, which is a significant achievement. Um, 321 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: so they didn't they didn't lose as bad as they 322 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: as they usually do for sure, And you could even 323 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: argue they want you know, I wouldn't be opposed to that, 324 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: But what I would say is the owners are gonna 325 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: keep profiting baseball is gonna happen. Fully, They're going to 326 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: get all their money from television. I think the owners win. 327 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: One thing too, is that the minimum salary will increase 328 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: from just over five hundred seventy thousand dollars to about 329 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars this year. Uh, and there will 330 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: be twenty thousand dollar annual increases. Now, I know that 331 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of money. Boy, I wish I 332 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: made seven thousand. I do wish I made seven hundred dollars. 333 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: But when you are a baseball player, you have to 334 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: remember some of that money is going to your agent obviously, 335 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: taxes and so on. Yeah, yeah, and um, you know, 336 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: really the minimum salary, the way that MLB teams treat 337 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: those sorts of players, the minimum salary is more of 338 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: a daily rate than it is an annual rate you 339 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: could think of, but you can almost think of it 340 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: like a like a studio paying paying their crew members 341 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: a certain amount per day, right, because these players a 342 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: lot of them and once. The biggest win to the players, 343 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: I would say, is a new provision that limits the 344 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: amount of times players can be option from the Major 345 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: league of the minor league is a five times in 346 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: a given year, when we've seen players have that happen 347 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: to them twenty thirty times in recently. And so what 348 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: it means is like when you say, yeah, the minimum 349 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: salary is gonna be seven hundred and ten thousand dollars, 350 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: but really that's about four thousand a day. And so 351 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: it's historically been used as like a daily rate and 352 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: then the guy gets you get called up for two 353 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: days and then you sent back down to the minor 354 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: leagues where you make one and one amount of that's 355 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's uh, it's two thousand a month. So 356 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: it's it's really if you can spend a month in 357 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: the big leagues, you can make a living a nicely 358 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Liverpool wage and that helps, that definitely helps to have 359 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: that increase from three thousand to almost four thousands a 360 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: day as a daily rate. That that will make a 361 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: huge difference in the in the lives of it, like 362 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: not the you know, not these marginalized players, but the 363 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: guys who it will make it. They don't they're not rich, 364 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: they're not you know, they're they're they're trying to buy 365 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: their first home there. You know, they fought through the 366 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: minor leagues for years. They're they're in them. They're in 367 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: the forgotten class of the of the rich baseball player. 368 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: One change you're gonna see on the field, Uh, we 369 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: got rid of that hooting nanny of in the extra 370 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: innings they will start a guy on second base while 371 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: they's okay, well we're not going to do that anymore. 372 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: That experiment. We tried it and Pedro I guess they said, okay, 373 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: well we'll scrap that. Yeah, yes, they certainly did. You know. 374 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: I can't say I ever felt that strongly about it, 375 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: but I know plenty of people in baseball really did. 376 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: You know that that really upset a lot of people. 377 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: And that's a great reminder of how traditional a lot 378 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: of the games fans are. Um that they could not 379 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: stand for this. And you know, it was instituted to 380 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: to shorten games during pandemic season when players were tired, 381 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: they were there doing condemned scheduled. The idea was that 382 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: you didn't want games to be lasting five six hours 383 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: for COVID reasons, really like for for players to be 384 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: in the dug out for that long and whatnot. So 385 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: the idea that it was going to last was not 386 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: certain in any way, and so it's it's nice to 387 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: get some clarity. Yeah, but for non COVID reasons. You 388 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: also don't want the games to last forever either, And 389 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest complaints against uh MLB games 390 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: is that they drag on and on and on to 391 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: the point where people just get tired of it. I mean, 392 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of the polar opposite of a football game, 393 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: which you know, just gets more exciting. One thing I 394 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: noticed in the agreement is this twelve team postseason, and 395 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: this is something the owners wanted. Actually they wanted fourteen 396 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: teams to be in the postseason, but they compromise on twelve. 397 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: Does that even matter when people already think games are 398 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: too long and too boring. It's a good question, you know. 399 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: I think, you know, maybe you think the games too long, 400 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: too boring in the regular season, but you're ready to 401 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: tune in come October, right, I could see that, you know. 402 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: And and and there's there's direct money to be made for 403 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball from MSPN for for you know, for 404 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: expanding this playoff field to twelve teams. So I would 405 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: say that's really the primary concern for the for the teams, 406 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: and it is that, you know, they're going to make 407 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: more money by hope, but by playing more playoff games. 408 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: What I would argue quickly, Scarlett, is that is that 409 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: it's not so much about the the length of games 410 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: that bothers fans and that you know, and I say 411 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: this as a person who is bothered by the way 412 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: baseball is going, but but it's the pace of play. 413 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: It's the way that the balls take a lot longer 414 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: to go into play. There's there's just a lot more 415 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: dead time. And so it's not that, you know, the 416 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: idea that the actually the ex training second base runner 417 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: rule really like helps the games belong. It never did 418 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: that much for me. It never really took away anything. 419 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: But it's the idea is by then at least there's 420 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: some tension. The problem with baseball games these days is 421 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: that there's no tension in the third dating of a 422 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, of a July game between two teams, when 423 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: no one scored, or maybe one team scored a couple 424 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: of runs. There's just no there's you're having to wait, 425 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, you're having to watch how or for something 426 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: to happen. It feels like that that's really it. Yeah, 427 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: And so when there's actually things at least there's something 428 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, it could end at any moment. You know, 429 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: it always can without that rule and whatnot. So it's 430 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: it's the pace. It's both the length in the pace, 431 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: but I would say it's primarily really the pace of 432 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: just how slow it can get. So I'm looking at 433 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: this pace of play, pitch clock and the shift or something. 434 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Three issues, uh and more they're going to be addressed 435 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: next year. Is that correct? So they're off the table 436 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: for this cb A. This is going to be a 437 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: seven person committee. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right, And 438 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's being said that it is happening 439 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: in three and that's a little short of what I 440 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: think the agreement actually says. The agreement gives the gives 441 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: it major League Baseball the right to impose those things 442 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: in which it's assumed that they will, but they haven't 443 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: said that they will, and they still reserve the right. 444 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: But not, it's not it's not it's by no means 445 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: to guarantee. They just have the opportunity. Now, the more 446 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: quickly institute rule changes. I'll tell you one thing that 447 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I did like that they're going to get rid of. 448 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: And we're going back to the traditional double header where 449 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: it's nine innings, where it used to be uh in 450 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: that period where it was seven innings each game. I 451 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: did like that as like, well, you know, I okay, 452 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna see a double header, I can sit through, 453 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, to seven inning games. But we're back to 454 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: the traditional nine inning games, which I mean, which is fine. 455 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: It's but and and it's just amazing to me that 456 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: they're able now to get one sixty two games in. 457 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: I thought there was no way in the world they 458 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: were going to be able to do that, but they are. Yeah, 459 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: they're they're speeding it up a little bit to schedule 460 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: literal extent uh three days at the end of the season, 461 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: which will interestingly create this first time in a long 462 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: time where the season ends at prime time page. I 463 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: gotta ask you, if Rob Manfred was a stock um, 464 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: would his price be on the upswing or still in 465 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: a downtrend? And I asked this because there's a lot 466 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: of ill will that resulted from the lockout. I mean, 467 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: as much as Rob Manfred positioned him off as the 468 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: person to kind of help get a shepherd to deal along, 469 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: he was serving at the pleasure of the owners. He 470 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: represents the owners here, and there was a lot of 471 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: mistrust from the player's side, uh, towards the commissioner, who 472 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: basically had to call up all his legal skills and 473 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: use his legal acumen to push them into a corner 474 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: and say that they you know, basically put him in 475 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: a position where they had to negotiate. Would players see 476 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: him as a as a rising stock or falling stock? 477 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: With the players, I think would certainly see him as 478 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: a as a following stock, you know. I think there's 479 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: no doubt in that. You know, although he did say 480 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: on Thursday that he plans to build a better relationship, 481 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's been on the job for a long 482 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: time and he hasn't yet, So I think a lot 483 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: of the plotters will be, you know, understandably skeptical of 484 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: that someone deciding to change that several years into their tenure. 485 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: I would say, overall, though, um, you have to say 486 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: that he's at least, you know, he might be a 487 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: rising stock. It's not. It's not saying stagnan. If not, 488 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, he survived if you sell off. At this point, 489 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I think that the reality is, you know, we used 490 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: to think of baseball commissioners as you know, operating the 491 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: bestages of baseball. Right, the idea that that's totally the 492 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: been debunked, and the idea it's pretty it's it's certain 493 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: that they operate in the best interests of the owners, 494 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, their bosses functionally and UM. From that perspective, 495 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: as we just said earlier, you know, the owners did 496 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: not lose soundly and may have gained some things from 497 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: this from this new cb A and UM. For that reason, 498 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: the person who was lead in them has to be considered, 499 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, a success in in that way. You know, 500 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: I don't foresee a way that this agreement ends up 501 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: terribly for the owners. You know, there's I don't see 502 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: a passport that if there is one, and I'm revealed 503 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: to be wrong, then perhaps we should look up look 504 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: upon this day differently. But as of now, you know, 505 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario for me is that is that 506 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: the owners lose a little bit of what they of 507 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: the riches that they gained from from the last c 508 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: b A and not a lot, and they can sustain 509 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: that and they have a full season that they solve. 510 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: They have a little bit more good world than they 511 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: would have otherwise. So I think you might be you 512 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: know as as much as it sounds crazy to say it. 513 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, based on the results of Thursday, I think 514 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: he might be rising so quick. Follow up to the 515 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Pagro Yes to no question, marb Manford's contract is up? 516 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Does he get an extension? Yes? And no? Yes, you 517 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: would think yes. Good enough for me. And let's continue 518 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: our conversation now with Pedro Mora. He's the national baseball 519 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: writer for Fox Sports, and he has a new book 520 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: hitting the shelves at the end of the month, How 521 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: to Beat a Broken Game, The Rise of the Dodgers 522 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: in a League on the Brink? And hey, kids, remember 523 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: this a suicide squeeze. I'll give you the definition, because 524 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: we don't see it that much anymore. A squeeze play 525 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: in which the runner runs all out at the pitch 526 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: without knowing whether the batter will contact the ball. Remember that, 527 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: old schoolers. Why in the world, Pedro, what happened to 528 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: the game? Everything has changed? Everything is going long ball now. Yeah, 529 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: the game. You know, the game is optimized for efficiency, 530 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: right and and with at comes uh, it comes from downside. 531 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: It's it's sort of it's it's funny to see, you know, 532 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: how how the optimization the excessive, endless and focus on 533 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: optimization has has taken away a lot of the joy 534 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: in the game, you know, at first, and I was 535 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: totally not I did not see this at first. You know, 536 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: when when Moneyball came out, when teams started to operate 537 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: like this, you know, it was as a young fan 538 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: for me, this was this was the dream. You know, 539 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: this was you follow the numbers, you follow the day 540 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: that you do what they say, and then you realize, 541 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: slowly but surely, over the years, the games get longer, um, 542 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: the fielders get into better position, Nothing happens on the 543 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: field you're watching, just just pitches and uh it um. 544 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: It slowly starts to don you that the game has 545 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: gotten progressively less interesting, just in the span of a 546 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: couple of decades um. And that's what we try to 547 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: chronicle here, is like how this happened? You know why 548 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: it happened, and whether you know whether the best teams 549 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: at at at optimizing our responsible for this in some ways, 550 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: and they are, you know, they're they're not the only ones. Obviously. 551 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: This is as we've just been talking about, This is 552 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: uh you know, this is a business for the owners 553 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: operating the sport, and they're they're doing quite well at it, 554 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: but there's a there's a sense that there's an increasing 555 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: sense that the optimization that that that the team, the 556 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: leaders of the sport are leading has a has had 557 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: significant negative effects on how the game is played and 558 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: how fans, especially casual fans watching. All Right, So I'm 559 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: Commissioner Rob Banford, and I have just designated Pedro More 560 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: to be my czar of how to fix a broken game, 561 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: and I'm commissioning you to come up with three suggestions 562 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: by March fifteen to fix a broken game? What would 563 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: they be? Three? I thank you, Henna need a lot more, Yeah, 564 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: I get that. Um. The first would be uh. The 565 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: first would be banning or significantly changing the defensive shift UH. 566 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: Which would which would force players to which would allow players? 567 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: I guess I should say to to put the ball 568 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: into play in in ways that would allow them to 569 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: reach base, you know at first days, rather than trying 570 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: to hit a home run. I think you want to 571 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: decrease the incentive to hit a homer as much as possible. 572 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Another that that would be step one is a mains 573 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: a major step to to incentivize balls of play. Number 574 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: two it would be something about it would be something 575 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: to to to force pictures to throw um with less 576 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: a band. And you know these days the guys throw 577 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: harder and harder than before, and they have less and 578 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: less control. Uh, And that creates a system where the 579 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: players strike the hitters strike out a lot and walk 580 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: a lot, which fans don't like to watch walks. Nobody 581 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: really likes to watch walks. So I guess in order 582 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: to into do that, I'd probably create a roster, a 583 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: maximum number of pictures the teams could have on their roster, 584 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: so that they had to use their pictures for extreme 585 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: for hundred plus pitches per day, which these days they 586 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: never do anymore. And when pictures only have to throw 587 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: a short scents, they can throw um, you know, as 588 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: hard as they can. You know, you want to get 589 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: to them where they're throwing eight percent effort or something 590 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: like that. Sore art. Stay, yes, yes, more are less aggression, 591 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: you could say. And so that would be the rule. 592 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: So maybe you know right now is a twenty six 593 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: person roster and teams can have pictures. I would say 594 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: something like ten pictures on the roster um. And and 595 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be some outcry when when me 596 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: is when I is are because because players are gonna 597 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: be upset and they're gonna talk a lot about injury risk, 598 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: and that might be an issue, but you know it's 599 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: going to be on them to to adjust the way 600 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: they throw. Right, if pictures continue to throw as hard 601 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: as they do with only with only ten pictures on 602 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: the roster, there will certainly be more injuries that absolutely 603 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: will happened. Um, but there there something needs to change 604 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: as far as the endless march towards you know, maximizing 605 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: your output as with your arms hurts pictures. They get 606 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: hurt and it hurts the game. So that would be 607 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: another rule. And then UM, with my third one, let's see, 608 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: I would you would you would do something that maybe 609 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: this wouldn't be the most impactful, but I guess I would. 610 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: I would I would unionize minor leagues. I would UM. 611 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: I would get players to to where they can they 612 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: can live sustainable lifestyles as as twenty year olds when 613 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: they are drafted UM and or or sixteen year olds 614 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: when they're drafted out of the national market or signed 615 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: out the international market, depending on what happens here. And 616 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: I would UM, I would create a system where these 617 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: guys are not in a lottery essentially to become rich 618 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 1: in the major leagues, and it's a it's an actual 619 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: sustainable profession for people. And I think that that would 620 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: create a system where players or maybe incentivized to play 621 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: towards their best games and not maximizing the style that 622 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: that pays the best. I think I can see something 623 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: like that functioning. So I would, um, yeah, I would 624 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: ban the shift. I would reduce the number of pictures 625 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: on a roster and maybe the roster's overall, but that 626 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: would hurt the major league unions to perhaps not and 627 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: then the third step would be unionized a minors. I 628 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: got a fourth one for you, by the way, if 629 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: you were running the league, cheaper food, because oh yes, 630 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: good one pays for a corps light. Oh I can 631 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: buy that in some areas. But that's you know there. 632 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: Pedro mora national baseball writer for Fox Sports, and he 633 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: has that new book out. It's hitting the shelves at 634 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: the end of the month. How to Be the Broken Game, 635 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: The Rise of the Dodgers in a League on the Brink. 636 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: It is a great book. Thank you so much, Padre 637 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: Will for joining us, Thank you all for having me appreciate. 638 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: Pedro just brings so much knowledge to the game, and 639 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot every time just listening to him. 640 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm amazed about how quickly this went from I don't 641 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: know if we're gonna have a baseball season two bam, okay, 642 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: come on out to the park, folks. One thing it means, 643 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: and I am so glad, is that the restaurants and 644 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: bars all around the parks they're like, oh, thank you, 645 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: because we already had some bad times, but now things 646 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: are picking up scars and you hope that that is 647 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: certainly the case. I thought it was really interesting when 648 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: he pinpointed that had they pushed uh any kind of 649 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: discussion negotiations off even longer, the season would have been 650 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: more severely impacted, at which point the players would not 651 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: be able to play a full season, and then their 652 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: salaries are impacted. That push, it's that that pushed the 653 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: urgency for the players to get something done. Of course, 654 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: it always comes down to money, but I appreciated the 655 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: details of why the players needed to make a deal. 656 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Now I agree, Scarlett, you fear is a great motivator. 657 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: Fear of missing a paycheck certainly pushed the players. I 658 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: think to come to a quick resolution to this deal. Also, Um, 659 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked when he said when I 660 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: asked him the SnO question about Rob Manford, will they 661 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: have a contract extension? I thought this guy, of all 662 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: the professional commissioners, was the guy whose job was more 663 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: imperiled than anybody else's. But Pedro thinks, yes, he will 664 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: get an extension when his contract expires in four You 665 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: don't think he would. I didn't think he would, because 666 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he come out and even admitted 667 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: when the settlement was made he did a poor job. 668 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: My job is supposed to have a promote good relationship 669 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: with the players, and I have not been successful at that. 670 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: And so I thought that maybe you know that there's 671 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: been all kinds of rancorps and discord over But do 672 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: the owners care that he doesn't have a good relationship 673 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: with the players? No, the owners care about one thing. 674 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Is he is he making up the game profitable for them? 675 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Is he maximizing everything for them? And I think that 676 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: he failed a little bit when when COVID came. I 677 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: think that owners and players both were disappointed in his performance. 678 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: But um, with this settlement right here, Uh, that looks 679 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: like the owners may have won, which how I feel 680 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: and how Pedro feels as well. That may be good 681 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: enough to get him an extension after the next two years. 682 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: And maybe the owners are perfectly happy happy having Rob 683 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: Manfred be not popular with the players. It takes the 684 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: heat off of them. Well, I mean, we see it 685 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: in all sports, and basketball has the best relationship between 686 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 1: players and owners and a commissioner and Adam Silva um 687 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not sure that you know Roger 688 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: Goodell would win a popularity contest with his owners and 689 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: the players. Is better to be than one than number five. 690 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I'll wear a number because of Mike. We have a 691 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: chance to go for three in a row. Good numbers 692 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: are a good time. When I first started wearing the number, 693 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: how we just have the improud ploom bird business of sports. 694 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: The number of the week. Well well, well, well, well 695 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: guess what time it is. This is the number of 696 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: the week. Now. I think when we last left, I 697 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: think Lynchy did make yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, alright, 698 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: so here's here's our question. Thank you, by the way 699 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: to our friends at sport to go for this. The 700 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: NFL designing Germany as its next toe hold in UH 701 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: planned Global ascent UH now worldwide domination, world wide domination. Yeah, 702 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: the NFL's domestic business is as strong as ever, and 703 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: it's on track to hit this annual revenue goal by 704 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. What all be worth annually? Okay? The 705 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: NFL itself, not like the sub economy business. I should 706 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: add that, I'm sorry, domestic business. Jason Kelly, by the way, 707 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: told me the trick here is to always let Lynch 708 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: put out a number first. Way do I get a 709 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: hold of him? Well, Lynch, okay, I will go first. 710 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say right now, it's in the seventeen billion 711 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: dollar range. Put an increase by fifty that would bring 712 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: it up to I'm gonna I'm gonna say the owners 713 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: are more aggressive than that, and I'm going to go 714 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: with thirty billion. You're laughing. This is not good. I 715 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: was trying not to laugh from the beginning. I was 716 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: right after Lynch said it. I'm like, oh gosh, don't laugh. 717 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: The NFL's domestic business is as strong as ever, on track, 718 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: according to Sportico, to hit it's twenty five billion revenue 719 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: goal by Okay, Jason Kelly did not get NFL Commissioner 720 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell. Uh. He reemphasized that the Super Bowl, Uh, 721 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: that the game is growing worldwide, and even after a 722 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: season that brought in more than ten billion dollars in revenue. 723 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: And that's this past season. So now, oh my god, 724 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: how does Lynch? Did you read? You read it? Didn't you? No? 725 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: I had um he just pulls it out of his brain. 726 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: I thought last year, the year before was like sixteen billion. 727 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I thought this year was seventeen billion. So I was going, okay, 728 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: they're he was in the room when they went over 729 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: that power point presentation. Man, he was pictures, he was. 730 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: He was in the back room of the game show 731 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: when the questions were being written. Oh man, that that's 732 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: good Lynchi. That's good. Well that's now last week. I 733 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: I didn't say it because one, okay, fine, I want 734 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: to say that you won, Lynchi. But Scarlett next week, 735 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: what's my consolation prize? Let's see. Well, we give out 736 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: several things, including the Lee press on nails and we 737 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: all and we also give Price of Rowney, the San 738 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: Francisco tree that was good, by the way, the Rice 739 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: Rooney stuff. Man, I used to love that as a 740 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: kid who's here's Johnny with the prizes. Yeah, exactly what 741 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: my prizes. I'm gonna take them and go home. This 742 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: is the Bloomberg Business of Sports Show. We are here 743 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: each and every week at the same time to hear 744 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: Lynchi Amaze us plus online wherever you get your podcast. 745 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: You can catch those Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays on Michael 746 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: Barr and Twitter at Big Bar Sports. I'm Scarlett Flu 747 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Scarlett Flu and I thank all the 748 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: people out there who do tweet at me and say 749 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: that they hope I win Number of the Week once 750 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: in a while. No one's rooting harder for Scarlett than 751 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch. And you can find me at Lynch WCVB. 752 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: And where are all my prizes? Are They in a 753 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: closet stored somewhere when I finally show up down at 754 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: the studio. Don't you worry about those prizes. They are 755 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: all coming to you from a family and let's make 756 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: a deal. You can join us anytime. Folks. Tune in 757 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: again next week for the latest on the stories moving 758 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: big money. I am not talking about that the jump 759 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: change money. I'm talking about big money, twenty five billion 760 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: dollars worth of money in the world of sports. You're 761 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio around 762 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:35,959 Speaker 1: the world.