WEBVTT - Global Warming Escape Plan with Mike Birbiglia

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. While I'm taking um the month of September

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<v Speaker 1>off of doing stand up, I return on October one

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<v Speaker 1>to complete my Vaccinated and Horny tour. October, November, and December,

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<v Speaker 1>I have new dates up. I kick it off in Saratoga, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm coming to all parts of California, Long Beach, Bakersfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Niagara Falls, Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, Minneapolis, San Diego, Reading, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>and Baltimore, Maryland, just to name a few. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>some Floridian dates in there, since this will be my

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<v Speaker 1>last year that I'm able to go inside the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida. So check out Chelsea Handler dot com for

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<v Speaker 1>more stand up dates for my Vaccinated in Horny Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>These are my last dates. Hi Catherine, Hi, Chelsea. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Chelsea Joy Handler and I'm here today

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<v Speaker 1>to record a podcast in the beautiful city of New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just tell you earlier you were approving videos

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself doing comedy and giggling, and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>most joyful thing I've ever seen watching giggle. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>in love with himselves as much as I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>when my social media team sends me a bunch of videos.

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<v Speaker 1>They put them together, but they put all these little

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<v Speaker 1>affectations on in like words, and it was funny and

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<v Speaker 1>I was yeah, I like, yeah, yeah, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>kick out on myself. I love that everyone should feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Honestly, I know we should all really start

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<v Speaker 1>to love ourselves a little bit more. I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been pretty high on myself. Well, not always.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes beat myself up, but for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm mature enough to be like, you're a wonderful person. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of being wonderful, I have to I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw my Skims ad, but I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so excited that that's what my body looked like

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't even express. And then as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>that shoot was over, what I did was they asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to do the Skims Brock Camp Pain. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation. I said, listen, I'm gonna be on vacation

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<v Speaker 1>for two months. I'm not willing to fly back unless

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<v Speaker 1>you make it worth my while. They made it worth

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<v Speaker 1>my while. I came home and gave myself a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I started to just be more careful about the food

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<v Speaker 1>and the drinking, and then I get on my timeline

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<v Speaker 1>where I eat every three to four hours, really small meals,

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<v Speaker 1>no bullshit like egg whites, broccoli, avocado, that kind of ship. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I had one week to get it together. I came

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<v Speaker 1>home after Martha's Vineyard and then I really hunkered down

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben Bruno. We worked out every day. I did

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<v Speaker 1>my Peloton ABS class every morning, and I did I

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<v Speaker 1>was an angel about my food, no alcohol, only cannabis.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the day of the shoot, I was like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt really comfortable about my body, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>if I had one more week. I was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I could manipulate my body like this in one week,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine what I could do in two or three?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh god. But anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>minute thought shoot was over, I have been on a

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<v Speaker 1>food and alcohol tear. I am. I have rebounded, and

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<v Speaker 1>that body is over. I'm like, listen, I proved what

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<v Speaker 1>I could do, and I washed my hands of it

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<v Speaker 1>now and now I can feel free to just to

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<v Speaker 1>blow up, yeah, and like party and have fun and

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<v Speaker 1>do all the good things. I really like to be

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<v Speaker 1>strong and fit and lean, but it's nice to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to manipulate your body like that and have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a you know, the definition and all that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see your abs and stuff, and like the cellulite diminishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone says you can't get rid of cellulite. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I get rid of it all the time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back, and then I can get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to be good. It's all about your diet.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really matter how much you exercise. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't ever fix that problem for me. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really happy that I did that campaign. I'm so grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that I mean, can you believe I

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<v Speaker 1>spent so many years making fun of Kim er at

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<v Speaker 1>Ashi and and now I'm working for her. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just never know how life is going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>out to you. It's a full circle moment. Okay. Today's guest,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, is a stand up comedian in He's an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also a storyteller. He's a director, a producer, and

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<v Speaker 1>a writer. He has a new show coming out on

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway which is so fucking cool. It's called The Old

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<v Speaker 1>Man and the Pool. He also stars opposite Tom Hanks

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<v Speaker 1>in a new movie called a man called Auto. Please

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<v Speaker 1>welcome Mike Brobiglia. Hi, verb Biglia. How are you glad

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here? Oh my god, we have so much to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>Kather and Mike, Holy cow, how are you? Hiy, nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. Yeah, you can look at that screen.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look at that screen. Just take a mirror

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<v Speaker 1>out and stare at yourself the whole time. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I got a shower and just jesus, I look like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a third grade schoolboy with this hair. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you do. Welcome to Mike bro Biglia. He's sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>and he just got out of the shower. Usually actually

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<v Speaker 1>at the first ad break during this podcast, we shower together.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to do it twy, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say I was listening to one of

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<v Speaker 1>your bits just now in the waiting room, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, one of the things I think you do

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<v Speaker 1>so well comedically and very few people can pull off

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<v Speaker 1>is indignant, Like it's funny when you're indignant, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people when they're indignant, it's like, oh come on,

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<v Speaker 1>but like no, no, you're doing this thing about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people taking their feet off the airplane trays. Don't touch it.

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<v Speaker 1>With your feet and you're mad about it, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't funk with the flight attendants, like they're working

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<v Speaker 1>so hard and so true. Like a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of comedy can sound kind of like holier

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<v Speaker 1>than now. One of your special powers is indignant, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that it feels funny and also like

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't know, like I don't I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so true. Well, thank you, Mike. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think if you had to name your special power or

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<v Speaker 1>one of your special powers, what would it be? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's some I think I can, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I don't know. I think I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>a story in a way that isn't boring, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can I can understand what's boring about myself in the

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<v Speaker 1>in real time and go, okay, I guess which gears Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually that is a special power. Because so many

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<v Speaker 1>people talk endlessly and you're like, do you not understand

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<v Speaker 1>that this is not compelling? And you're still talking and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not really a reaction coming from anybody, Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been at a dinner where somebody drolls on and our

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<v Speaker 1>drones on and is a drone drones who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I'm too too tired to make words anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But when people go on and on and there's not

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<v Speaker 1>really a big reaction from anybody at the dinner table,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just think to yourself, what is this person doing,

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<v Speaker 1>Why won't they stop talking? Well, they they've clearly been

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<v Speaker 1>work shopping with the wrong people. Work shopping. Wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of work shopping, I want to talk about one

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<v Speaker 1>of your special powers, because Mike bar Biglia is an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible person in the sense that you are helping so

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<v Speaker 1>many young comedians get to the next level. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have so many people in common between Hannah e'mbinder and

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<v Speaker 1>between Alex Edelman and Otsco. All of these people we

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<v Speaker 1>both have worked with or are both friends with, and

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<v Speaker 1>all three of them just have the nicest things to

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<v Speaker 1>say about you. And Otsco was just telling me, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>bar Biglia does this thing called the ride back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because after you achieve your own success, which you have

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<v Speaker 1>certainly done, you have gone around and picked up people

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<v Speaker 1>that need help from other people. And I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>producing the show just for us, which I just saw

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<v Speaker 1>last night. We're in New York City today, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Edelman Show, which closes I think tonight, so the

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Yeah, and then hopefully we'll start up again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll start up again, and I think it will. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>end up being a big special eventually. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>should be on Broadway, I think. So. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is so talented, it's so great, and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>it's very much about growing up as a Jew, and

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<v Speaker 1>he tells this long story about a night he has

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just he's kind of like the new I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, like a new Woody Allen, you know, without

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<v Speaker 1>marrying his daughter. Hopefully that won't happen because he's dating Hannah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bid when I would like the two of them

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<v Speaker 1>to stay together because I think they're a commensurate right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>they both have a nice My god, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>The power couple. Yeah, total power couple. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to give you kudos for that because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you deserve it. Well, you know that term ride back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because Otsco uses it with me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think both of us got it from Hassan Minaj, who

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<v Speaker 1>uses that term. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah, Hassan brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up and then Otsko uses it for me. Otsco

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<v Speaker 1>is like, it's funny. We met were pandemic friends. We

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<v Speaker 1>met on just Instagram. I lover videos, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, who is this person? Like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask her to come on my podcast. She came on,

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<v Speaker 1>working it out, we go along really well, and then

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<v Speaker 1>like when I started doing shows again, I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to come just like open some shows.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she came to Chicago Theater with me and

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<v Speaker 1>then crushed and then I was like and then I

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<v Speaker 1>love her husband Ryan, He's like brilliantly talented as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've just been doing like every show together

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<v Speaker 1>and she's just super cool and like wildly talented, wildly talented. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to be a big star. And she's so

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<v Speaker 1>sweet and funny and her story so it's she's unique.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so nice as a comic when you see things

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't derivative of things we've already seen before. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Yeah. I mean one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things about comedy, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of white male complainers in comedy right now

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<v Speaker 1>are just like, how come everybody, every everything has to

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<v Speaker 1>be diversion blah blah blah, and it's like, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think like sort of a better question might feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when you get more diverse stories, like odsco story,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, is like she came from Japan. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when she's like eleven years old and she tells the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give away the story that she

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<v Speaker 1>tells on stage because it's so good. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>her life story is so fascinating. When you get more

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<v Speaker 1>diverse stories, it's just better comedy, is the truth. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's genuinely better storytelling better comedy, I think, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also like it's a nicer to have a

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<v Speaker 1>wider breadth of learning about people's experiences than a narrow viewpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>When everyone's complaining about being too politically correct or it's

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<v Speaker 1>like all you have to do is not be racist

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<v Speaker 1>or sexist, Like it's not at all order you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to complain about that. You could just be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more clever or by the way, you can

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<v Speaker 1>be racist or sexist. But then if people say that

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<v Speaker 1>they're right, yeah, right, right, right exactly, it's actually non

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<v Speaker 1>illegally racist or sexist. But it's just like you know

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<v Speaker 1>people will criticize you, which has always been the case,

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<v Speaker 1>excepted exponentialized with social media so exponentialized. That's good. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard that yet. Who helped you when you were

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<v Speaker 1>coming up? Did you have anybody that was really helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of people like Mitch Hedberg was really helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>I was starting out, really he Yeah, there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of people did like a lot of really nice

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<v Speaker 1>things for me, Like I opened from Mitch Hedburg in Dayton,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio at the Joker's Comedy Club. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>would have ever played there. Maybe I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I've played there. But you know what, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where I've been because every time I go somewhere, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to go there, And then I go

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<v Speaker 1>in and there's a picture of me and I sounded it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh ship, I've forgotten more than most people

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<v Speaker 1>will ever remember. I like that quote. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>whose it is. It's not mine, but I continue to

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<v Speaker 1>use it. Yeah, he didn't. He he didn't really mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>his wife Lynn did a really sweet thing, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like I had like a self produced comedy album when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like twenty something, years old called Dog Years

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<v Speaker 1>and they and they came to New York and performed

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<v Speaker 1>at like the comic strip with me. For that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you remember. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>zillion years ago. I met you at the comic strip

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and carolines here years ago, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>actually really unique instance where I was you were on

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<v Speaker 1>this ascent and I was just sort of witnessing it

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<v Speaker 1>happened like you weren't a household name, but you were

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<v Speaker 1>like on your way to it, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was fascinating to watch you. You were

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you were crushing. It was twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You were crushing. But I was like, who is this

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<v Speaker 1>person who has this wild trajectory? I've never been around

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<v Speaker 1>that before. Really really well bigs. Yeah, I remember Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>seen meeting you at Caroline's the comic strip. Yeah, vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>now I remember that. Is that around anymore of the

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<v Speaker 1>comic strip? So is that where do you perform when

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<v Speaker 1>you're met the cell when you're a seller person, that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be the place where everyone is. Well, it's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just what it is is and if

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<v Speaker 1>people are listening and want to visit New York. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they have like three or four comedy rooms like

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<v Speaker 1>in a two block radius. They're really good rooms. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really well well booked, well produced shows, and the food

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<v Speaker 1>is great. I think all left. Yeah. Yeah, the food

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<v Speaker 1>in a comedy club is typically not awesome. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you can get that while you're watching comedy, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bonus round for sure. So tell me about your life now,

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<v Speaker 1>now that you are successful and you have a very

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<v Speaker 1>steady career, how does that feel. It's good. I mean like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this next show which is called The Old

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<v Speaker 1>Man in the Pool on Broadway, which is exciting. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, can't wait to see it. That's incredible, so exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at the Beaumont Theater at Lincoln Center. Wow. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's so it's really exciting. And when does that start?

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<v Speaker 1>Oct perfect O at the Beaumont Theater And and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to answer your question, like it's it feels good. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm sure you experienced this to some degree. On

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, you're like, oh, I'm I can't believe I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so exciting. The audiences are showing up to

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<v Speaker 1>see my sense of humor, because when you're starting out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's any sense of humor. You get on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and you're just kind of like they either get

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<v Speaker 1>you or they don't him. Now, when I tour as

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<v Speaker 1>as is, I'm sure when you tours like no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they know what they're paying for. I've written this show

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<v Speaker 1>over a few years and they're on board for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. It feels like your friend with

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<v Speaker 1>the audience, Yeah, which I think you're the funniest kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jokes. It's like when you have an inside joke

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<v Speaker 1>with your friend. And I feel like over the years

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to develop that with my audience where

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like an inside joke. Well, I think though,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have a different not a different in a bad

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<v Speaker 1>Way experience though on Broadway, because the audience aren't just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be your fans. It's gonna be a word

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<v Speaker 1>of mouth thing too, where people tourists are coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna want to see something funny in a

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<v Speaker 1>comic and they're going to hear about it, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So those are going to be people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great way to actually broaden your audience, right yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Before they die. Yeah, everyone's going to pass away shortly,

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<v Speaker 1>so so we should all be prepared for that. So

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about the show. Well, it's it's funny. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the theme of the show is the old Man in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pool is about aging and more tality and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that last show was called The New One,

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<v Speaker 1>which is on Netflix now, and it's and it was

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<v Speaker 1>all about having a child, despite the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>never want to have a child, Like I was really adamant.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first half of the specials all the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to have a child. Second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the specialist about how I had a child, and then

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<v Speaker 1>how I was right, and then how I was wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in certain ways and and sort of the emotional arc

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But now my daughters seven years old and

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<v Speaker 1>so now and now she can watch that special and

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<v Speaker 1>be reminded that her father never wanted to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>But my wife Jenny always points out that, like she'll

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<v Speaker 1>just never even though I said, she'll just never believe

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<v Speaker 1>it because I'm so doting, Like she just doesn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she'll compute it, like she'll just be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an act, yeah right, But no, I really did

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I never want up a child. What's funny

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<v Speaker 1>is from that special? I don't know. It came out

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. About a year after it

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<v Speaker 1>came out, someone sent me a link to like a

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<v Speaker 1>Reddit thread that was like a child free commune. Any

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<v Speaker 1>forward that to me? Please my gosh, where people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>we love the first half of the special and then

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<v Speaker 1>they were like and then and I turned on them.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to, but I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happened. Well, I mean, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to I remember talking one of my friend's husbands

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<v Speaker 1>they have three children, and she was like, I never

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have kids, and he goes in, now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to even think about how I felt about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, once you have them, obviously, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even I would love my kid when if I had one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you're like, oh god it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's you're never gonna want that to be taken away

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<v Speaker 1>from you once you have that experience, because it's probably magical,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine on multiple levels. It's extraordinary. It's spiritual, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the idea that you and your wife could

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<v Speaker 1>create a person and then you watch them grow and

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<v Speaker 1>their mind being shaped. I mean that is a fascinating endeavor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole first half of that special, I just make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of people with kids, and now I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of those people, and it's like, it's embarrassing. You should

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<v Speaker 1>you should be embarrassing proud of it. But that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I meant right now, and then the new shows is

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<v Speaker 1>all about death. I mean it's all about meditating on death.

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<v Speaker 1>And my feeling is like, if you can make people

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<v Speaker 1>laugh for ninety minutes about the thing that we're all

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<v Speaker 1>sort of most scared of, or some of us are

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<v Speaker 1>most scared of, then there can be a catharsis in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. There can be a feeling if you walk

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<v Speaker 1>away feeling better than you walked in. My pet peeven

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<v Speaker 1>comedy is when comedy scratches the surface so much that

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<v Speaker 1>the person doesn't go in deep, and then you're left

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like it's a little bit like junk food, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, all right, that was fun, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good time. Yeah, yeah, I hear what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. There's no there's a lack of depth. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because one of your one of your specials

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<v Speaker 1>that you did where you talk to people about race

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<v Speaker 1>and privilege and you sort of like make yourself the

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<v Speaker 1>line of fire. You basically, I would I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how to describe it. You basically say like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>open for criticism kind of thing. Is that how you

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<v Speaker 1>describe it? Yeah? I like that feeling. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>really respected that because I was like, that's going deep

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<v Speaker 1>because you're putting yourself out there and just being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just take shots. What are your thoughts on this? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I also find when you have the opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary, it's like it can't be a vanity project.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to dig right. You can't just be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there like promoting yourself because it's so easy to be

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<v Speaker 1>in this industry and really get lost right. I find

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<v Speaker 1>New York there's more grounding and more normalcy here. These

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<v Speaker 1>are real people that not everybody's in the industry. There's arts,

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<v Speaker 1>there's museums, there's stuff to interest you. The parks are beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the piers. You go down to the

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<v Speaker 1>piers and there's people outside exercising, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>l A has a dearth of grounded nous. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people just get so kind of dumb. I certainly feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I get dumb when I'm in l af for

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<v Speaker 1>too long. Why did you stick? Why have you stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with us so many years? Because I just love land

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<v Speaker 1>and houses. I love land, and I love droughts, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get started on our next drout.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't be there for long because California will probably

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<v Speaker 1>catch on fire, so I'll have to probably relocate to

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<v Speaker 1>Nova Scotia or somewhere else in Canada. That's I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>have my eyes on property where global warming won't In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think about that Al timin Nova Scotia, North Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee oddly like, yeah, there's a few like that Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville is a pretty cool city. It's just set. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>down there. I'd like to be a little bit off

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<v Speaker 1>the beaten track, but I never quite make it that far.

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<v Speaker 1>I go down these rabbit holes about climate change sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at like where where will the survivors be? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And Maine is a big one. Yeah, but then there's

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<v Speaker 1>weird things. It's like Vermont good, except that it's on

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Champlain and you can end up with other natural

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<v Speaker 1>disasters from the lakes, right actually, but I also think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to be by a lake when we all

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<v Speaker 1>run out of water, right, so we have to find

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<v Speaker 1>some lake community like Wyoming or Montana might be a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. But then there's too many guns. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not down with that telling people too much. We're

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<v Speaker 1>telling people where our escape routes are. Well, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers, the one that man splains the most, his

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<v Speaker 1>name is Glenn Handler, and he was telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>with Cape Cod the North Atlantic area, that global warming

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<v Speaker 1>is going to affect it into terms of shorter summers

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<v Speaker 1>and longer winters, like it's going to be more the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of what will happen on the West Coast. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like I just got an update on Instagram from

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<v Speaker 1>I have a place in Whistler, Canada because I love

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<v Speaker 1>to ski, and they just predicted that this winter is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a freeze, like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>arctic temperature. I'm like, oh shit. But so I think

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere it's going to be affected differently. Like I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought of global warming as like the sea levels rising,

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<v Speaker 1>everything gets warmer, but without that Gulf stream storm cycle

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, it will stay colder in the North East,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get colder and the winters will be more

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<v Speaker 1>harsh or harsher, I should say. So anyway, that's your

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<v Speaker 1>global warming update everybody. If you have any questions about that,

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<v Speaker 1>please right into another podcast. So, Mike, what we do

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<v Speaker 1>is we give people advice. It's really fun, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do it. And I want to come on

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast too. Okay, let's do that. Um, Katherine, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you have in store for us today? First, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. We're not taking a shower because

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<v Speaker 1>Mike just showered. I don't know who gave him that

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<v Speaker 1>fucking note. But we'll take a break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back and we're back amazing. Well, Mike, we have

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<v Speaker 1>an email. We have some callers today. I hope that

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>these are right up your alley. So Mike's a pretty

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 1>sensitive guy. I think he can probably handle whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>coming our way, Thank goodness. So our first email comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Blair. Blair says, Dear Chelsea, my husband and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been talking about starting to try to have a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>but he keeps making excuses about why we should wait

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<v Speaker 1>a few more months. He's interviewing for new jobs and

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be in a better place financially, we should

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<v Speaker 1>buy a house first, etcetera. I've tried to tell him

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<v Speaker 1>that it's never the quote right time, and we're both

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<v Speaker 1>in our thirties, so every month counts, and even if

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<v Speaker 1>we did get pregnant right away, we'd have almost a

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<v Speaker 1>whole year of pregnancy to figure things out. He tells

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<v Speaker 1>me that I am always just doing things on my

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<v Speaker 1>timeline without considering him. I may have booked some wedding

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<v Speaker 1>venue walk throughs before he officially proposed, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>he had the ring already. How can I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him about starting to try sooner without him feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm steam rolling Blair? She said, they're in their thirties. Yeah, okay, Well,

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 1>as a man, I'm gonna let you take because you

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 1>probably experienced something similar to this. Oh my gosh, I

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.479
<v Speaker 1>mean that's a hard question, right, Like that's a I mean,

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>she's really threatening the needle of challenging because the wedding

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<v Speaker 1>venues thing for me is a even he had he

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten the ring, to propose that, it's annoying to

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>know that you did that for your husband. That would

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>be annoying, I think to anybody, but helpful for us.

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So then having gone through it and had some challenges

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and pregnancy like as much as whatever, people get mad

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>if I say it actually does matter how many months

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like in your thirties, like there does

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 1>reach a point where is an issue? Yeah, it actually

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.399
<v Speaker 1>is an issue. So she has a point on that front.

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But I also think she might want to have a

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>frank conversation with him about whether that's what he wants

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to do, because I also think it's a little bit

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of a fickle thing to be like, let's wait a

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>few more months. It's like well or ever, you know

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like is that the question? Like is

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the question is a few more months? Or is it

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do this? Well? When you because

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:56.919
<v Speaker 1>since you never thought you wanted to have a kid?

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>What happened with your relationship? How did it come about

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that you decide to have one? I mean ultimately like

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<v Speaker 1>and this is paraphrasing a ninety who longs special in

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<v Speaker 1>a book that where I really go into the sort

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of minutia of it, but like, ultimately generally want to

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>have a child, And she never thought she want to

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>have a child. She said, I think you'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>good dad and this is something I want to do,

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>And ultimately was like, well, I'm not gonna hold you

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.959
<v Speaker 1>back from that and that, and that's why I that's

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>why I did it because I was like, I think

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to hold someone and maybe this is boring.

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I just said I was going to attempt to not

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 1>be boring. But it's like, I think that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship where you know you're capable of doing

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that your person who you are in love

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>with and they really want to do and you so

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of want to do it or you're okay with it,

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you should try to do it. Yeah. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>also say he is not saying he doesn't want to

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>have a kid. He's just he needs some time to

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>warm up to it. I would say, with your track

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 1>record of what you did with the booking looking at

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>wedding locations, that you've kind of stabbed yourself in the

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>foot there because that's annoying. That was annoying, and that

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>was overstepping. And I when girls do that with my

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>guy friends, they're always pissed and they're always annoyed and

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it takes them a long time to get over it,

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're married now. He's not saying he doesn't want

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 1>to have a child, but there is the age factor.

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>So all you have to do is say, listen, I

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to bother you about this. I don't want

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to be up your butt. I know that I need

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>your you to warm up to it. But there is

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>an age factor here. So depending on where you are

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>in your thirties, you know, if he's not ready to

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<v Speaker 1>have one now, and maybe you want to freeze your

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>eggs if that's an option, If that's something that's like

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>too expensive or you don't want to go down that road,

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>then just say, like, I need a time frame where

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>we can revisit this. Can we revisit it in three

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>months or six months or you know, definitely, don't get

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>pregnant behind his back tricking it. Don't do that, please,

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>because that is not going to be good for your marriage.

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Cut that's a better answer, So I defer to that answer. Action. Okay,

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that on this podcast. You give your advice,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but at very at least I can I can show

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that I've growth during the he's growing during the podcast.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>This is unbelievable. What do you have to say on

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the topic. I mean, I'm somebody who's sort of in

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the throes of this right now, where I'm like, I'm

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven. It's sort of like do we or don't we?

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.719
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, we're in this position where it's if

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>it happens, it happens, but it is tough. We got married.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I was very young. I was a baby at twenty three.

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>When we got married. He was twenty nine, and he

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to have kids and I never wanted to

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>have kids. And over the years it's sort of shifted

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, yeah, I could see that being a

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>relationship I want to have in the future with a child,

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and now he's sort of but everything's going so well,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like why would we want to change that and have

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a baby? So I don't know. We're sort of in

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>some murky waters together, but it's also kind of nice

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>to both be in a murky spot together. Then you're

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>both on the same page with each other. Nobody's pressuring

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>or forcing the other person, and that just is never

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a good approach. So that's your advice. Be murky so

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>stuck on that al right, Well, Blair, let us know

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>if and when he decides he wants to get pregnant.

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess also make him watch the new one, because

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>what's special. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, wait,

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>what do we talk? I'm sorry by that, of course

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>endlessly confusing. So our next submission is from a caller.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel says, Dear Chelsea, I'm the youngest sibling out of three,

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<v Speaker 1>and I seem to be the only one who gets

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>along with everyone, which has made me kind of the

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>glue for the whole family. One of my sisters is

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<v Speaker 1>going through a divorce, and unfortunately it's not been a

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>very amicable one. It seems that her soon to be

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>ex husband is being as petty, hurtful, and reactive as possible.

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>They have two children, ages five and two, and those

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>kids are everything to me. My brother in law and

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I have been in each other's lives for thirteen years now.

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>She's twenty seven, so that's a lot of her life.

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And he was always the brother I never had. When

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>he and my sister are starting having issues, he would

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>always turn to me for advice. He'd call me almost

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>daily for months, and I'd always pick up, even though

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it was causing me tremendous emotional stress. Being dragged into

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the middle of their problems. Unfortunately, when things took a

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>legal turn, I basically had to step back and let

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the court take action. It's been about five months now

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and my brother in law and I have not spoken.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the messy part. I'm getting married in December

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of this year. Before my sister and her husband's issues

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<v Speaker 1>got serious, I asked my niece and nephew to be

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>my flower girl and ring bearer in my wedding, which

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of course they excitedly accepted. I can't imagine my wedding

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>day without them. There just one big problem. My brother

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in law has custody of the kids the week of

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>my wedding, and I have a very strong feeling he

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>will not let them come to the wedding. I've already

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>reached out to him by sending him a heartfelt email,

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but he has not replied. I sent that email two

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>months ago. If my sister were to ask him to

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>trade weeks, he would immediately do the opposite of what

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>she asks, just to hurt her. I don't know what

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to do from here on out, and was just hoping

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that you have any advice on how to get through

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to a very stubborn person who's hurting and in a

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>lost place. Rachel. Oh, that is such a bummer. Hi, Rachel, Hi,

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>how are you hi? All right? This is Mike. He's

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>our guest today for Big Leah. And you know Catherine

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>because you've probably touched base with her, yes, Hi Rachel.

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, Rachel, that is such a bad position to

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>be in. I'm so sorry. Yeah, it sucks. It's all right.

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of accepted it as it is, because now

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been about three months since he's replied and talking

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>with my sister, Like, he hasn't chilled out at all.

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So he's like legally bound to reply to her because

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of the kids obviously, But yeah, I don't expect to reply.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I haven't reached out again. He has full custody of

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the kids. No, it's split fifty. Oh, so he just

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>has them during the time that you're getting married, and

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>she's offered to trade until that would mean he would

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>get Thanksgiving this year, Christmas this year, and Christmas next year.

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>And did he respond to that? Huh, he's just doing

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>it to be ugly. Yeah, But like, my niece is

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>really excited for the wedding, and I mean we have

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to start buying stuff like her little flower girl dress

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and everything, so we kind of need to know. Oh god,

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>what a devastating conundrum. I know. My instinct is like, Okay,

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>can the niece ask the father Daddy, I want to

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>go to the wedding, But I don't know how you

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>want to involve young children like that, right, And she

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know yet about the whole situation. She just knows

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>she's going. She knows she's going. Yeah, we haven't told

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>her basically that her dad has said she can't go.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And she's five. She's five, Okay, Well I would say

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>when you see her next, you'll see her next, right

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>before the wedding, obviously, to talk to her about it

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and about the excitement of a flower girl being a

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>flower girl, so that she can bring that information back

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to her dad with her. And I hear what you're

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>saying about it backfiring. But it's much harder to say

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>no to your kid than it is to say no

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to your ex wife. Yeah, that's true. Also, is it

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>is the wedding close to where you live or now?

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>It's about three hours Houston and Austin, So I mean

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>there is something to be said for bargaining with something

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>longer versus shorter, like we'll get her for the day,

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>or we'll get we'll get the kids for the day

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and then trade a week for it or something like that. Yeah,

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>she's offered any of a year and he hasn't responded

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>to that. So sorry. Yeah, I think you can just

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>keep pressing it, you know what I mean. I don't

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>think you should give up. I think you should talk

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:52.959
<v Speaker 1>to your niece, and I think you should send him

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>another email. Don't make it long, just make it short, assistinct,

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and just say this is one of the most important

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>days of my life. I understand what a difficult time

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you're going through. I understand that tensions are high, but

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>can you please just think of me on this occasion

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and think of your daughter and the experience that we

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>could share together, and make it short and sweet, and

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, just throw it out there one more time,

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and also tell your niece so that she can go

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>home without information and talk to her dad about it.

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think when you're talking to your niece

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that's so tricky, because like you don't want her to

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>go back and say I'm going to the wedding, because

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>then then he feels like he's been stripped of his

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>decision making power, which is clearly what he's holding onto. Right,

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm also imagining like this angry Texan man. Yeah, like

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just picture I'm wearing a cowboy hat, Texas man.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>He's not your typical Texas man. Oh he's not. Okay,

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>how would you describe him? He's a very like prideful person,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>played basketball in college, and he was raised by a

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>single mother and so he's very independent. So yeah, it

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>just sucks because he's so angry with my sister because

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>she was ready to finally get a divorce. But he's

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>really only hurting me and my niece and she I

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>thought we were very close, and so that hurts as well.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I lost one of my closest friends, but

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I can accept that. But it sucks for my sister.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>But also it's my wedding, and yeah, my niece isience yea,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And I just think in your next email, you should

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely just say it again like this is from love.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Please don't take this experience away from us based on

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what happened between you and my sister. This is about you.

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>What's your niece's name? Marley Marley. Marley, and I want

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to share this. I want her to remember my wedding day.

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I want her to be a part of this. This

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is like a historical family moment. And I know things

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>suck and you're upset, but I didn't do this, and

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Marley certainly didn't do anything right. That's true. You need

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to say that should I email him or should I

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>actually text him or give him a call? Yeah, whatever

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you think you're most comfortable with. I would give him

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a call if you think he might answer that your call.

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I always think it's better writing. I just

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>find to be a little bit more people have more

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>reflection on. When you can read something a few times

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you see the points that somebody's making, it

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of lands a little bit more heavily. And so

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I would send the email and then if you don't

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>care back from him again, then you can text him

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>or call him. But yeah, don't give up. You have

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>nothing to lose. That's true. I am already accepted not

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.959
<v Speaker 1>having her, So I just got to keep trying because

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't be disappointed anymore. Yeah, I remember to impress

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>that this is a family moment. This is your niece.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>That's never going to change, and why should she miss

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>your wedding? Why should she be punished because of anything.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>We're willing to make compromises here. We're willing to give

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>you them on Christmas right now. He knows he's in

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the power seats, so he's probably because why wouldn't he

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>want them for both Christmas Is and Thanksgiving if he's

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>feeling like that. So I bet you he's probably thinking

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>about it and just holding his power and doesn't want

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to give it away until the very last minute. If

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he's so angry and prideful. Yeah, that's exactly what my

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>sister said, because she was saying if he were to

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>say no, she thinks he would just say it right

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>then and there. Okay, So don't give up, hope, just

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>keep trying. Yeah. She and I talked a little bit

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>about this, and I had asked if he has other

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>family and Rachel he said, he's clothes with his mom

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>as well. Right, Yeah, so that might be another angle

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to you know, if you don't hear back from a call,

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't hear back from an email, to go talk

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to his mom and implore her, like we really want this,

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>we love him, we love her. The kids but I

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>can see from her face that that might not be

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the best character. Like, yeah, but you know what, she's

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a mother, yeah, and a grandma, Yeah, and a grandmother.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And there's there's a way into everybody. I mean, some

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>people there's no way in, but there you know, you

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>just have to work under the assumption if this is

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>something that's so important to you, which obviously it is,

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of have to try every avenue. Yeah,

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the the extreme, this is the comedic. Non don't do

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>this version. I hate my sister too, but listen, but listen,

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I want what's best for the kids. Know sucks, but yeah,

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 1>that would be a good avenue to probably, But no, really,

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you have an awesome sister. If she's willing to give

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>up two Christmas in a row to like make sure

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>her kids can come to your wedding, oh my gosh,

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.959
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, listen,

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have an incredible day no matter what. And

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>if it works out, which hopefully it will, that would

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:32.959
<v Speaker 1>be great. It's going to be great regardless of whether

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>they're there or not. It's not the end of the world.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.919
<v Speaker 1>It's just a bummer. And so you know, I don't

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>want you to like spend your day thinking about who's

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>not there. To spend your day thinking about who's there.

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like when you're performing stand up and people are

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>pissed if it's not sold out. It's like focus on

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the people that are sitting there about tickets, not on

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifty seats that are empty. For sure. And if

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>for some reason it really doesn't work out and he

0:36:55.400 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>really refuses, like schedule a little photo shoot and have

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>her put on her dress and you put on your

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>dress and you guys can dance around the living room

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>or take pictures in the garden, but like do something special. Good.

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a cute idea. I like that too. So many options. Yeah, yeah, well,

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you guys. Let us know what happens. Okay, Rachel,

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Well for sure, I'm going to reach out to him

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>probably today. Okay, good, good, and congratulations on your wedding.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you so much. So it's good talk

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to you guys. Bye. See how serious this sh it is.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be a fun podcastle I know,

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I know this is how it is all the time.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>People think I'm a doctor. Oh, I know this is

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you've you both have good solutions. I mean,

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have much for these folks. Now you have

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a male perspective. That's important. Were talking about men and

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>both of these situations, right, you know. So it's good

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a male perspective, especially a straight mail, because

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of straight mails on this

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>podcast for obvious reasons. And you're somebody that is not

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>like that. So it's nice to have a nice male

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>opinion to be implemented or incorporated into this. Just imagining though,

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the guy when you're so angry, it's like, buddy, let

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it go. Why are you holding onto anger? It's like

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>cancer causing Yeah. Have you ever been angry like that?

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I've had. Yeah. You know, my dad growing up was

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>always had an anger streak, and I feel like it

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>it boils in me. But because I grew up with

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a dad who is angry, I keep it inside. Yeah,

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I'm not explosive, sort of never shout. Yeah.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine you yelling at anybody. Yeah, definitely, it's

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a It's a real emotion comes through me. Do you

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>get angry I used to get Yeah, I get angry.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I get pissed because I have a temper, but I

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>know how to regulate it and I don't act on

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it most of the time. I used to what's your

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>trick for for regulating it? I just know now, like

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been to therapy, Like I went for intensive therapy

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>for like two years. I had someone I'm like, fix me,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Why am I yelling at people? And like I would

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>fly off the handle at someone a stranger if they

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>did something, And now I'm just like, no, it doesn't matter,

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Like just be cool. It's just better to have. My

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>trick is just if I'm being reactive. If I feel that,

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I walk away, Like I literally just go

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in another room, walk walk down the street. I'm like,

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you're never acting like that again. You've done too much

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>work on yourself to reduce yourself, and I always just

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're kind of negating all of the positivity

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that you put out in the world when you act

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like an asshole. Yeah, so I just remind myself of that.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>That's really good. Here's the good idea joke about my

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>dad or he would get so angry and he wasn't

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>even sure why. He'd be like, goddamn it. I'm eating pretzels,

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, is he angry? Is he hungry? What

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>is the emotion being expressed? But that was that was

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.439
<v Speaker 1>that was always my Yeah. And the other one ahead

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>was true from childhood is where's that goddamn horrible phone?

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and my mom's role in the family was

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:05.479
<v Speaker 1>to just find the portable phone. And I always feared

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that one day they forget what the end of the

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>joke is. But gosh, it was so years, so many

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>years ago, you know how sometimes you have jokes or

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like twenty years old and you're like, I remember exactly.

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 1>But my dad, honestly, like he would be like, God,

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>damn what I mean, preszls? Goddamn what wears the portable phone?

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And I always grew up around that, and I was like,

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do that, but I do feel

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the emotion. He feels like the rage sometimes how come

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>this thing is so wrong? Yeah? I mean Also, my

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>dad had a really bad temper and which to punish him,

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>my mom would hide the remote control. That was his

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>punishment because she was passive aggressive and she couldn't go

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>head to head with him in the arguing department, so

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>she would just rearrange furniture and move things around so

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 1>he would be more confused about And that was her way.

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And then she'd go upstairs to her bedroom and like

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep at six o'clock, which is also a

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>trade I picked up from my mother. I love to

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>be in bed, love it at early hours. And when

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it's light out and I get into bed and I

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>have like a nice sandwich on my nightstand and like

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>three hours of television ahead of me, I cannot be happier.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I know. That's what single people can do. Well. I

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say, Mike, thanks to the miracle of

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the Internet. I do remember how you finish that joke,

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>because I listened to it. Was that they eventually invented

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>portable phones that had like a pager and they would beep,

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and so your parents, you know, could get a divorce

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>because there was no world from your mom anymore. That's right.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:35.479
<v Speaker 1>That's a very good Yeah, good job, I mean, thanks

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Internet. Okay, what do we have next, Catherine? Okay,

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>so this is from Emma. Emma's here with us as

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>well as a little bit lighter. Jesus, Dear Chelsea, my

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>name is Emma. I'm twenty nine years old. I live

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>in Toronto, Ontario, and I'm too happy. The past few

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>years were some of the worst years of my life.

0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>As a social work manager at a health care for

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>facility for seniors, I had to watch my clients drowning

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in the pandemic. I was stuck in a relationship with

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a serial cheater, was staring at fifteen thousand dollars of

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>credit card debt and completely neglecting my physical health. Cut

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to today, my debt is paid off. I'm living in

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 1>my dream apartment, think Carrie in Sex in the city,

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 1>driving my dream car. I've picked up a second job

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>with a promotion on the way. I'm healthier than ever,

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.439
<v Speaker 1>with an amazing group of friends, and I'm in love

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>with the most wonderful, handsome kind man. So what's your problem? Right? Oh,

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>wait for it. There have been countless times in the

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>past several months where I'm bursting with gratitude on the

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 1>verge of tears. I'm on cloud nine. I had previously

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>dated garbage men and not the city employee kind. This

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 1>man encourages me, supports me, makes me laugh, but acknowledges

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm funnier, loves my friends. My mom says he looks

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>like a guy from a Hallmark Christmas movie. He's normal

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in the best ways, and I want to spend my

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.959
<v Speaker 1>life with him. Recently, however, we've started talking about moving

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in together later this year. For some reason, the last

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>time we spoke about this, I had a pit in

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>my stomach. What if I didn't enjoy my single time enough?

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>What about my cute, solw carry apartment? Is there going

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to be enough excitement with all this nice nonsense? The

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>darkest parts of my own demons tell me I'll self

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>sabotage my way out of this, or even worse, I'll

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>get bored. How do I ensure my hard work and

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>manifestation of all this good doesn't go to waste? How

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>do I make myself open and unafraid to the love

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I deserve? Emma, Hi, Hi, Hi. This is Mike bro

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>big Leiah. He's our special guest today and that's how Yeah.

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm great. I'm just on a bit of a break

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>from work, so I popped home. Yeah, what do you do?

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm a social worker. Oh, good for you. That's nice.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike had a lot he thought there was a lot

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>of unpacked I'm gonna let him take the lead because

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a two partner in a certain way, Like she

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>was saying that the last two and a half years

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>or such. Hell yeah, I feel like this is always

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>worth pointing out. The last two and a half years

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>have been complete in total hell for like free, awful

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and like we should never stop talking about you know

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like it's so fucking mad, and I

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.959
<v Speaker 1>feel like sometimes we're all playing it cool, like oh yeah, okay,

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>we're doing our best, whenever it's like no, no, it's

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>a horrible, unprecedented, once a hundred years situation. It's like

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 1>war times, right. So that's so that's part one. I

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like absolutely want to hang lantern on that. And

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>then the second thing is having to do with like,

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.479
<v Speaker 1>are you if you're afraid of moving in with someone?

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I would just say just don't move in, just wait.

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I would wait, I just wait on that, because it's like,

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>what's the rush? I don't get the unless there's a

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>rush thing that I don't know about. Are you do

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable waiting to move in? Or is that

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>something you Why is there a rush? I mean, ideally, ideally,

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I think two years sounds nice

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to me. I think you know, you never get that

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>time when you're dating back like it's such a nice time,

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>especially if you really are enjoying each other's company. I mean, like,

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree, what's the rush? I wish that finances weren't

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>what they are, and I wish that rent wasn't what

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it is, and I wish that that wasn't such a

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>huge factor because if we're looking, you know, if we

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:10.959
<v Speaker 1>really want to spend our life together and we're looking

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.919
<v Speaker 1>to build for the future, saving like ten fifteen grand

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>in one year, it makes logical sense so that it

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>can pay off later on. I mean, he's with me

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>six nights a week, you know, I can have those

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>conversations with him where we can look for that time

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>where we can spend separately so we can preserve some

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of the mystery. I would agree, I would love to

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>wait a little bit longer. But there's you know, there's

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>other factors. I guess. No, it's definitely a financial like

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the housing markets insane right now. I know, but that's

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or ten thousand dollars. Like I understand your social

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>worker and that you're working within your salary, but I

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>really don't think you should make decisions based on finances

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>if you can't. If you can, you know, like that's

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>not the right reason to move in with someone. I

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>want to say from your entire First of all, I

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>want to double a piggyback on what Mike said about

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the last two and a half years, because I think

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>half the people even understand what kind of post traumatic

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>stress they're going to have in five years from what

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>we just all went through. Like some people feel it

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and felt it throughout the pandemic, and some people aren't

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna feel anything for two years, and it's like delayed grief.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. The other thing is reading listening to your letter.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>You need to reread your letter a similar point. That

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>is a saboteurs mindset. You just said it out loud.

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>What's going on. Everything's fine, Everything's working out. You're spending

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 1>six nights a week with somebody. You obviously are into them,

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You're obviously feeling very strong feelings. Everything in your life

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>is going great. Enjoy this moment that you're in without

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>worrying about sucking it up. Make a plan with your

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend of when you are going to move in together,

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>or when you're gonna talk more seriously about moving in together,

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and even if it's only like three months before. I

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's your least situation right now, Do you

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>have a year lease or something? Like? It's stable? Everything stable,

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And I mean realistically, I entered into this lease on

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>my own. I got this on my own. I built

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 1>up the money to get this, so, like my trajectory

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>at that time was to be paying for this on

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>my own. So introducing someone into that it's it's like

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a bonus. But you're right, it's not something that I

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was counting on. Ever. I was also concerned about the

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>way you described your boyfriend as being like a Hallmark card.

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I don't know, I don't love

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that like Hallmark cards. Well nobody does. But I mean

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean, you know, that's not the c I

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's the crux of the letter and of

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, right, Like, I think if you introduced,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have you guys spoken about living together yet? Yeah? We

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of the best part. Like there's nothing

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that I can't comfortably share with him. I was excited

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. You know, it's great. There any

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>deep dark you know, things deep down I can air

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out with him and he can, you know, meet me

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>there and not take anything personally. The hallmark part is

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 1>just like he's built for mass appeal, Like he is

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>just jealous who wants to be described as a Hallmark card.

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's wonderful. Yeah, and how long have you guys

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 1>been to get other? Now just kind of a year? Yeah,

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you should have a conversation and just say, listen,

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>we're all we're both moving in the same direction. I

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>want to be with you probably you know, for interminably,

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and I and let's let's revisit this subject in six months,

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>because I'm so enjoying this dating and also of having

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 1>our own you know, smaller amounts of personal space, which

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>are so important. And let's just revisit this in six months.

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no pressure to do anything. And I think you're

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>very like you have a lot of self awareness and

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 1>just sit in that positivity and understanding that you're lucky

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and being waking up and having gratitude every single day

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>is like really the key to having a healthy, happy

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>life because obviously things are going to go wrong at

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>certain points in your life, but it's important to remember

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>what things are going right. And it sounds like so

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>many things are happening for you. Yeah, there's this really

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>funny phenomenon where in times of sadness or anger, the

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 1>idea that this too shall pass is so comforting. But then,

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the flip side, when you get this

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>happiness and you work this hard and you get whatever

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it is that you're hoping to achieve, it somehow takes

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>as a personal loss or personal failing if that happiness

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>becomes just as fluctuating. So I think gratitude is a

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>really excellent way to kind of combat that and just

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>be happy for what it is here and it's expected

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to go because we can't have the ups without the

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 1>downs too. So I'm working towards being in that state

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of being afraid that this house of cards is just

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>going to collapse on me, just to be yeah, just

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.439
<v Speaker 1>to be happy and to live in the present moment

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>with it cool. Yeah, I think you're fine, Emma. I

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>think you're going to be just fine. Not really worried

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>about you. Okay, that's comforting, Thank you, Mike. Are you

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>worried about her? No? She seems good and I think

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>your advice is good and I think she the gratitude

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>is smart. Also, you know, it's a good tip for

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 1>granted gratitude. Journal Yeah, right down every few days what

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you're grateful for. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, there's something about journaling.

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>One of my my therapist told me something once. Journaling

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>has proven scientific data that you are like releasing emotion right,

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it's good or bad. Writing down your thoughts is

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>just a great way of reflecting. And so many people

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have time to even reflect. You know, you're running

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>around like a chicken with your head cut off half

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the time. I know I am, and you know, when

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I sit down, like this week, I haven't meditated once

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 1>because I've been in New York. I'm like, well, and

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, well, I don't really have time,

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, of course you have time.

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 1>You can do it when you go to bed. I'm like, well,

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>then by then I'm ship faced. So I can't really

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>meditate when I'm like coming home after you know, at

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>two in the morning here in New York. I've come

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to New York and act like a rock star. I

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:38.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm so is because yeah, it's revitalized

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in a major way. But but on journaling front, I

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>in my new show, I have a line where I

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>say every night I like to write down, or every

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 1>few nights is the truth. Every few nights I like

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to write down what I'm saddest about or angriest about,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>because I find that if you write that down, you

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>can see your own life as a story. And when

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you see your own life as a story, you can

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 1>zoom out and encourage the main character to make better.

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>To sit. Wow, love dropping the bike. Yeah, I love that.

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>That's great. That's really good advice. I love your secret

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>public journals. Thanks, thanks so much. I really do that,

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's good advice. It is my partner. He's really

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>into journaling. We read his together. So maybe I'll take

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a page out of the cool Cool Thank you Emma

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>for calling in and yeah, yeah, just take your time

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:25.479
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have everything is going to be great.

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, you guys. I really appreciate this. Sure,

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Emma. Bye bye. I love our callers. I know

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>they're so sweet. I know so earnest. I love that. Yeah. Well,

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a quick break and we'll come back to

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 1>wrap up with Mike and Chelsea. What a positive what

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a positive podcast, Good vibrations. We'll be right back and

0:51:55.960 --> 0:52:00.359
<v Speaker 1>we're back. Well, Mike, this is a point in our

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>show where we wanted to see if you would like

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>some advice from Chelsea. Yes, Mike, do you have any

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>advice that you would like to ask me about. I'm

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple multiple things. I'm just trying to narrow down when

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>do you think a friendship is over? I'm being abstract,

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>but I but I've had a couple of things over

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the years where I've been like, oh, Okay, I think

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 1>this friendship just might be Yeah. I think if you

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>think that, that's probably it's it. You know, like, that's also,

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, something for you to journal about. Probably. I

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>used to think friendships ending were a sign of my

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 1>inability to behave and now I understand that friendships ending

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>are just a part of life. There are people that

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 1>come in and out for specific periods of time for

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you to either influence them or for them to influence

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you or be a comfort or be an inspiration or

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>however the dynamic plays out. And that doesn't mean it

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>has to be forever, because really nothing is forever. Everything

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>is short lived or you know, like nothing lasts forever,

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's okay to have a healthier outlook about the

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>ending of a friendship. It's not that bad, and it

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be an explosive thing. It just has

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to be like, listen, we're in different places and you

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 1>know we're taking a break. If if you even have

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to address it, I mean, is it something you have

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to address to another person or just to yourself. You

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>probably like run into the person like a couple of

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 1>times a year. Yeah, then that's friendship, is what it is. Anyway.

0:53:22.400 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not close or right, So yeah, I think it's

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 1>just it's nice to think about it in a way

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's not necessary with a reflection of either person.

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 1>You're just not on the same page exactly anymore. And

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 1>then that is an opening also for different people to

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>come into your life. Like there's nothing I love more

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 1>than constantly meeting new people and making new friends. That

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>actually it's funny, as you say, when it started to

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>happen is when I became friends and Ryan, Oh really yeah,

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I always think that happens. There's a universal balance that

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>happens professionally, personally health wise. When anything you know seesaws

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.879
<v Speaker 1>in one way, there's always something else that levels everything out.

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>And I find that to be true all the time,

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'd like to pay attention to that stuff now.

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Mike. You're so welcome, You're awesome.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful that you came today. I'm so happy

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 1>to see you. I haven't seen you in forever. It's

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 1>been probably twenty years, and and uh, I've just been

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>admiring you from afar for all these years. I'm honored

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to be on the podcast and I can't wait to

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.600
<v Speaker 1>have you on working it out. Yeah, we'll definitely do that.

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Katherine. Would you like to say goodbye to

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>our guest. Bye, Mike. I'm waving. I'm waving him looking

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 1>for the camera to waite. I've been following you since

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you were jumping out of windows. So, oh my gosh,

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 1>oh so special. Means so much. Thank you so much.

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we we made it work. And goodbye

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:48.480
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