1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in our number three Wednesday edition Clay 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show. One reason and by the way, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: I encourage you as always go subscribe to the podcast 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Byron Donald's and Tom Holman, both on in the last hour. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I think you will really enjoy those conversations. Lots of 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: information from inside of the administration breakdown. I think Byron 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Donald's gonna be elected governor of Florida next year. That 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: would be my prediction. Obviously, there's lots of different things 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: that happened between now and then. Tom Homan is doing 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. I think I got us invited on 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: an ice raid, which I'm gonna be honest, sounds kind 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: of fun and badass. 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: I think, Clay, you gotta be first through the door, swinging, 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: swinging the sledgehammer or the battering ram. I think, I, Clay, 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: have you ever worn tactical gear before? We're gonna get 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: you all kitted out? 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 3: I went no. 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: When I was a law student, I did a ride 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: around with Nashville local police because they wanted we were 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: doing criminal law. They were like, hey, you should actually 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: see what a cop does. And I've been involved in 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: criminal cases, not myself, but as a lawyer. 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: This is lawyers. I'm talking about Clay. 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking throwing some flash bangs, throwing some elbows, you know. 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: Getting nobody. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I remember one of the thing that I found so 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: interesting was my criminal law professor at Vanderbilt University, Don Hall, 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: amazing guy, just a great guy, Rest in peace. I 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: taught generations of Vanderbilt lawyer's criminal law. He said that 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: when he would go, he would like to go because 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: he loved to kind of learn in real time how 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: do police saw It's really very fascinating. How do police 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: officers in a dynamic situation apply the law so that 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the evidence that they collect or the arrest they make 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: are able to stand up under the challenges of defense attorney. 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: You're going very academic on this. I just want video 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: of Clay tackling some gang men. Well, like, this is 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: where I was going. 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: He said he had assisted as a law professor in 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: arresting bad guys because on one of the raids that 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: he was on, they had too many bad guys and 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: not enough cops and he just dove and tackled somebody. 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: There. 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: I'm talking about this happened. 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: He was thinking, like this is going to be the 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: craziest legal hypothesis ever, dorky law professor, and he was 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: in good shape and like but but you know, actually 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: assisting in an arrest would be one of the all 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: time great fat background hypotheticals. And that's what he said 50 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: was going through his mind when he dove and made 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: the tackle. I think he, by the way, was an 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: FSU grad like Byron Donald's FSU. 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: We could get you deputized by Ice. But you know, 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: you know, just just remember, you know, it's it's never 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: it's fine to throw the elbow clay. You know what 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying. If somebody tries to take you down, you 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: got to what you gotta do. 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: So I would love to do the raid now. So 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I encourage you to go listen to our number two 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: when I asked if we could go on an Ice raid, 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: as other members of the media have. I also love 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: that Tom Holman said that he wasn't worried about us 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: leaking the Ice raid coming. I think that's a good 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a good hypothesis from him. He's been 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: on a bunch of times over the years, even as 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Biden had failed with the border. 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so we started as we. 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Brought in Tom Homan to talk about this Trump gold 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: card idea. And for those of you haven't seen this, 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: one reason I loved Trump is every now and then 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: he says something that I've never heard anybody talk about, Like, 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: I've never heard this disgust in any kind of substantial way. 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: And he said, look, there are a lot of countries 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: where you can buy citizenship and you will pay a 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: certain amount of money and you could become a citizen. 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: And let me I started to explain this. 77 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: My wife, Laura, who you well know, Buck, I would say, 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: has a few prepper tendencies, meaning we're adding a. 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: Lot of guns. She's got a go bag. 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: She's talked about building a underground bunker in the event. 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: She has looked. 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: During COVID, she got really afraid about where the country 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: was going. And when Biden was elected, she did research on, hey, 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: how do you become a citizen, for instance, of a 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Caribbean nation. How do you become a citizen of a 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: place where you theoretically could be removed there's an ocean 87 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: to protect you from chaos elsewhere. And so she was 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: telling me all this stuff. She's got a law background too, 89 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: that there are actually tons of countries out there, and 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I never really had looked into it or experienced it 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: where you can basically buy a passport, and it's not 92 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: just Caribbean nations. I believe the island of Malta you 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: can pay and you get an EU passport, so it 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: would entitle you to travel, for instance, all throughout the 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: European Union, you and your family. Meanwhile, we got all 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: these people coming illegally into our country trying to become citizens, 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: and we don't buy and large monetize that in any way. 98 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: So Trump, the ultimate businessman, has said we should have 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: a golden ticket basically where you pay five million dollars 100 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: and you and your family can come to the United 101 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: States and become citizens. 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: And he took it a step further. 103 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: And he said, if ten million people around the world 104 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: did this, we could eliminate our entire national debt. Now 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm trusting Trump on this. Ten million times five million 106 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: is that fifty trillion? 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. I know it's a big number. 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I tried to do it on my calculator Bucke, and 109 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: then I got that E and a bunch of zeros. 110 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not good enough at math to know can 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: somebody with a calculator confirm Trump's math here in the meantime, 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: listen to the audio. 113 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: We'll be able to sell maybe a million of these cards, 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: maybe more than that. And if you add up the numbers, 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: they're pretty good. As an example, a million cards would 116 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 5: be worth five trillion dollars five trillion, and if you 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 5: sell ten million of the cards, that's a total of 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: fifty trillion dollars. Well, we have thirty five trillion in debt. 119 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: That'd be nice. So we'll see. But it could be great. 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: Maybe it will be fantastic. We have it all worked out. 121 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: From the legal standpoint, it's totally legal to do. 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh Buck, this is brilliant to me. 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: And if the math adds up, and I'm trusting Trump 124 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: here because my calculator is not good enough, I don't 125 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: see what the downside is that you're skeptical. I could 126 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: see Buck's face. He's like, I don't know. I think 127 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: this is actually genius. Super rich people, all their assets 128 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: coming here, eliminating a substantial swath of our national debt. 129 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: We got ten million illegals that came in during Biden 130 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: with almost no assets. I would much rather have ten 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: million insanely rich people from around the world, paying off 132 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: our national debt and bring as many of their assets 133 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: here as possible. What am I missing? 134 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: What do you? 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: What are you skeptical about? First off, I just think 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: the numbers should be ten million. 137 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So you actually think we're not charging enough that 138 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't think is enough. 139 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's I don't think that you 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: should just be able to get to the front of 141 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: the line on this. Look, here's the My My position 142 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: is that really we've actually had too much immigration for 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: too long, and that we need to just be America 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: for a while, like we're good. We need to get 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: we need to deport a lot of illegals. We need 146 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: to allow assimilation of the legal immigrants who have been 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: here to occur, which is just part of you know, 148 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: time and culture and exposure and being here. You know, 149 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: we that we it's kind of no room at the end. 150 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: Is a little bit of how I feel right now, 151 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I shouldn't say no room. 152 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: But it's been crazy, all right, And just look at 153 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: the numbers. The country's never been through anything like this before. 154 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: We've never had the level of both legal and illegal 155 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: immigration together in such a condensed period of time, to 156 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: the tune of millions, millions, tens of millions. We have 157 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: more foreign born Americans than at any time, certainly in 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: the last one hundred and fifty years, and so we 159 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: need we need a little you know, America gets to 160 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: just be America for a while. And that means I 161 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: think we got to look what Canada's doing. Canada went 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: through this and by the way, Canada has a points system, 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: how much money do you have, what level of education 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: do you have? And they got all kinds of problems 165 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: from this. So am I am I opposed to this 166 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: in principle. So on the one hand, there's just the 167 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't I don't like, I don't want more H 168 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 2: one b's, you know, being added into the mix. I 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: very much disagreed. We didn't going to talk about this. 170 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: The whole vivague take on that I thought was horrendous 171 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: and wrong and and just like blasphemy as far as 172 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm concerned for America. But anyway, I think that there 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: needs to be a change in the way that we're 174 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: taking in legal immigrants. Fine, I think it needs to 175 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: be less. Do we want very rich people to come here. Yes, Uh, 176 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. They will bring assets, they will 177 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: create jobs. If it's going to be so easy that 178 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: you can just buy it, I think the number should 179 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: be higher than five million personally, So that's one thing. 180 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: Maybe Trump will be with me on that. And I 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: think it would have to be capped, right, So what 182 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: he's talking about would be anybody who wants it could 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: come here. 184 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, the question that I would have, 185 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and this is the data nerd in me, is what 186 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: is the total addressable market? How many people actually have 187 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: the ability to pay five or in your case, I 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: don't necessarily disagree ten million to become citizens. And that's 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: people who are not obviously already in the United States 190 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: because and I understand people talk like, yeah, what are 191 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: you there are there are six million millionaires in China? Wow, 192 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: six million millionaires in Channel alone. 193 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: Is America going to really feel that much like the America? 194 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: We know if you let in, let's just even say 195 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: half there. If three million Chinese millionaires are here, this 196 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: is we're getting into some real numbers. 197 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: You know, that's a lot of people. 198 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Well, what I would say from one place point out 199 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: is a lot of these people would already own homes 200 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: in America, so the richer you are, the more likely 201 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: you are, frankly to stash your cash or and also 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: should you should you have to give up your I 203 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: don't think you should be allowed to be a dual 204 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: citizen with this. I don't like that for a whole 205 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: bunch of anation that's an interest. So I think you 206 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: have to be only a US died. I don't think 207 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: you could keep your EU passport or keep your Chinese passport. 208 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: If you're going to do this program that Trump's talking about, 209 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: you got to be all in on America. So again, 210 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: there's some details that need to be worked out. I'm 211 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: not I mean, I see your point, I see the numbers, 212 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: but but I feel like there also has to be 213 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: a component of this that you know, well, like that's 214 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: a little more of the old school. You love America, 215 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: you want to be America. Do you speak English? 216 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: You know? 217 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: These are all things that I. 218 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: Think need to be added into the mix as well, which, 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: by the way, we haven't been doing that. To be clear, 220 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: I would overhaul the whole immigration system dramatically. 221 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: What I look at is, if you ask me right now, 222 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: what is the biggest threat to American power. I would 223 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: say it's our thirty six trillion dollar national debt. And 224 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: I've heard very few legitimately intelligent takes on how we 225 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: could ever eliminate that in any of our lives, because 226 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: you can't. The math doesn't add up, right. You can't 227 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: tax enough to eliminate the thirty six trillion. Remember, what 228 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: Elon's trying to do right now is just get it 229 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: to the point where we're only spending a trillion more 230 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: than we bring in and then hope that the growth 231 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: in the nation is going to be fast enough to 232 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: eliminate that over time. 233 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: He's trying to slow down the monster. He's not trying 234 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: to slay then it's impossible from to slay the monster. 235 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: And he knows that. 236 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: My concern is, and this is big picture as we're 237 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: getting ready for a break, but is the reason why 238 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: crypto is taking off is a lot of very smart 239 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: people are looking at our fiat currency, that is the dollar, 240 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: and they are saying the dollar is diminishing in value 241 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: every day because Americans have borrowed so much against it 242 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: that at some point in time, the borrowing cabal collapses. 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 3: And when it does, whether. 244 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: You're a billionaire, or you're living paycheck to paycheck, you 245 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: are going to bear the consequences. And I would argue, 246 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: we're all bearing the consequences now with seven percent mortgages, 247 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: with twenty some odd percent credit card interest, with the 248 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: amount you get in a lot of sixty months zero 249 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: percent interest. When you buy a car now, right, all 250 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: of that adds up. It takes money out of your pocket. 251 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: So your concern, I think, is an interesting one on 252 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: like geopolitical tensions, who the loyalty of these individuals owe 253 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: their loyalty to. My concern is, if you told me, 254 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: Clay you have a magic one, you can erase one 255 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: major concern in the United States. To me, it is 256 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: the national debt. And I've never heard anybody come up 257 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: with an idea of how to actually eliminate the national debt. 258 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: My question is, I don't know that the total addressable 259 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: market of people willing to do this is ten million, But. 260 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: If it is, I don't think it is either. But 261 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: if it. 262 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Were, or if you doubled the cost like you said, 263 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and it's five million, you could eliminate the whole national 264 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: debt just with this program. 265 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's also amazing to think about you can pay 266 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: five million dollars through the legal way, or until recently, 267 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: you could pay five thousand dollars to the cartel run 268 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: across the border and basically get a lot of the 269 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: same value out of it, especially if there's ever an 270 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: amnesty that comes, which the Democrats still want. So you know, 271 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not comfortable with the idea of America 272 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: as an economic zone. And when you're selling citizenship it 273 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: starts to feel more and more like there to me, 274 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: there should be something more about America than just this 275 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: is a place where you can have assets, make money, 276 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: and that you know, there should be some like agree 277 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: we could be I mean I could be. I think 278 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: you're too old now, Clay, but I could still be drafted, 279 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: you know, like there's something more to this country. 280 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: That's why you want me going in first on the 281 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: ice thing. 282 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: You got too many good years of life, yet I 283 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: gotta take the I gotta take the bullet to the chest. 284 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: Oh man, So we'll see. I'm very curious. Let's let's 285 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: open this on. This is a real talker. I think 286 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: this is a fascinating idea from Trump. Have you ever 287 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: heard it discussed ever? 288 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: Never? 289 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: Now? 290 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: Not really no, so fur and against four and against 291 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: Trump's five million dollar. Instead of a green card, he's 292 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: calling it a gold card. What do you think about it? 293 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two way two two eight a two. 294 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: It's like the Golden ticket from Willy Wonka, except you 295 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: have to buy it instead of getting it out of 296 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: the chocolate bar. 297 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: What a great movie that was by back in the way, 298 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: back in the day. 299 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: I want to tell you, we're talking about saving money. 300 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about the fact the country's thirty six trillion 301 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: dollars in debt. 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You got to make a little bit rare. 352 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: You got to put a cap on it, and then 353 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: they'll come even faster with their five or ten million dollars. 354 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: Put a cap on it. 355 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 6: You know, five million people can buy a ten million 356 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 6: dollar citizenship. 357 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: It'll be a rush to the door. 358 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 6: We'll do it in about ten minutes. 359 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 7: The whole thing. 360 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: You know, This is what I was saying. 361 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: There's some even if it's a good idea, or rather 362 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: even if if it's not, we should go forward with Clay. 363 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 2: There's some details that do need to be worked out. 364 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: I do think there has to be a cap on it. 365 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: I also want to know, and this is the question 366 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: I was asking, and let's dive back into this. We'll 367 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: take your calls. Your talkback sound like he was washing 368 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: dishes while he was talking back with us. By the way, 369 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: I want to know what the total addressable market is. 370 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: How many people, because you can be rich and not 371 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: have five million dollars in cash or ten million dollars 372 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: in cash, that's super rich. How many people in the 373 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: world actually are potentially involved here. We'll talk about that 374 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: in the meantime. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis Sexton show. 395 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: All right, a little bit of a window into how 396 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: my brain works, which sometimes is a dangerous place to be. 397 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, I love this gold card idea citizenship 398 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: because to me in all facets. I don't know if 399 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: you've been paying attention to this buck, but I think 400 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's management style is really fascinating, and I think 401 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: it really kind of boils things down. I know there's 402 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people who own business as small businesses 403 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: out there involved in management. Elon says that the thing 404 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: that he has found is most valuable for him as 405 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: CEO is to find the thing that is the biggest 406 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: impediment to success and put all of his interest into 407 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: fixing it. And I think that sounds simple, but it 408 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: actually is brilliant because any of you out there that 409 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: have ever run a business or a small business, the 410 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: reality is you got like ten or fifteen different things 411 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: that you're trying to work on simultaneously. And when you 412 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: or your staff or your company are trying to work 413 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: on ten or fifteen things at time, ten or fifteen 414 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: different things at one time, your ability to change all 415 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: of those things inevitably runs into inertia and it becomes 416 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: more challenging. I'll give you an example in my own 417 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: business right now, I think we have at OutKick a 418 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: really poor ad sales team, meaning we are failing to 419 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: monetize our content as well as we should be. I 420 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: am putting all of my attention into making sure that 421 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: we monetize things as much as we can. Doesn't mean 422 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: there's not like fifteen other things that can be worked on, 423 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: but that is the number one thing to me. If 424 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: you told me right now, now that the border is sealed, 425 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and now that crime is coming back down and we're 426 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: actually putting violent criminals in prison, we still have inflation 427 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: to deal with. But if you told me big picture, 428 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: Clay what is the biggest concern in the government. It's 429 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: our debt. It's going too soon eat up a huge 430 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: part of our tax dollars merely paying the debt interest, 431 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: not paying the debt down. And remember what we're talking 432 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: about now from politicians is only slowing down the rate 433 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: at which we add debt. You can maybe try to 434 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: address it through budget. That becomes difficult. You have to 435 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: raise taxes, you can fire people and shrink the size 436 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: of government. But a big part of this is eighty 437 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: six percent of our budget is Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, 438 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: and defense eighty six percent. So if to a large 439 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: extent you're not touching that, then you're only able to 440 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: cut fourteen percent of our budget. Again, these are fraud numbers. 441 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: And I hear no one saying, how do we ever 442 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: pay down this debt? Trump, to his credit out of nowhere, 443 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: suddenly says hey, I mean I don't remember him campaigning 444 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: on this or anything, but he says, hey, we should 445 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: sell citizenship five million dollars. And my immediate response is 446 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: that sounds like genius to me. But the next question, Buck, 447 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: is there are lots of details associated with it. But 448 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: to me, the next question is how many people could 449 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: actually buy this, right? 450 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: I told you there are six million millionaires in China, right, 451 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: so that's just one country. Now it's the biggest country 452 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: in the world. But you got to figure I think 453 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: if you opened up, man, this is this is like 454 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: if you ever remember those if you ever did any 455 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: consulting interviews for like mckensey clay, you know, those. 456 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: Things would just give me a question that you had 457 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: no answer, idea what the answer is, and it works 458 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: the head. 459 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: Yes, this is the classic thing. They say, how many 460 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: people go through Logan Airport, you know, on the second 461 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: Tuesday of the month, and you're supposed to and you 462 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: don't know the answer, but you're supposed to get to 463 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: some kind of answer and show them you're thinking anyway, whatever. 464 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: Don't even get me started on consultants. 465 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: But the I think if you thought about it in 466 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: this comp First of all, we have a lot of 467 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: millionaires in Miami in the area who are from Latin America. 468 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of Latin American millionaires here. Now, 469 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: some of them are visitors. I know, some of them 470 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: are on visas obviously, but a lot of them have 471 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: moved here. So you're going to have millionaires from Asia, 472 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: a lot of millionaires from Asia that I think would 473 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: want to take take up this opportunity. You're going to 474 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: have some from the EU too, who are probably sick 475 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: of the taxes more than anything else and want to 476 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: be in a more dynamic economic environment than what you 477 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: see in the EU. But again, the devil's in the 478 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: details for me with this a little bit. I'm not 479 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: against the idea, I just my I have my concerns 480 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: about the idea. So here to your like McKinsey consulting question, 481 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: number of millionaires matters. But really, in order to stroke 482 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: a check for five million or ten million, that is 483 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: movable financial assets, most people, even very wealthy people, aren't 484 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: liquid enough that they could stroke a check for five 485 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: or ten million dollars. To me, that typically is going 486 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: to require probably this is my rough guess, that you 487 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: be worth twenty million dollars or more. Because a lot 488 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: of people's wealth is tied up in their home. A 489 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: lot of people's wealth is tied up in a small 490 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: business which may produce a decent amount of revenue every year. 491 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: But even if you run a fifty million dollar business 492 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: and own it, you might only be netting. I don't know, 493 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: three four million dollars in profit at the end of 494 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: the year and you might live really, really well. But again, 495 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: how many people have that? I just don't know. The 496 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: total addressable market is like I think you have to 497 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: be worth twenty million in order to even consider doing 498 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: this well. But again, and I hate to be the 499 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: stick in the mud here on this a little bit, 500 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: because you know, Trump's got a big. 501 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: Beautiful idea. It's a big, beautiful idea. No question. Does 502 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: the whole family get to come if you're if you're. 503 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: A Chinese, you know, one hundreds in family, like we 504 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: can't we can't have like grandma and grandpa and like 505 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: answer uncles, like you have to be the sun or no. 506 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: But now you're talking about again this is why I 507 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: get to the cap. Okay, so let's say you open 508 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: this thing up. You're gonna have three million foreigners. Let's say, 509 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: who are millionaires who can do this and who want 510 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: to do it. Over the course of Trump's four years, 511 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: average family size of four p You're gonna allow twelve 512 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: million foreigners to show up here. Now, a lot of 513 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: money that they bring, but they're not Americans. And you know, 514 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: again I come back to this thing of being an American. 515 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: We're not an economic zone, you know, We're we're not 516 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: a trade union. This is a special place with special meaning. 517 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know that some guy who shows up 518 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: from Singapore who's like, oh, I've got a US passport 519 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: now because I wrote a big check is necessarily going 520 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: to perpetuate the America that we know. 521 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: Maybe s maybe, No. Here's my concern right now. 522 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: The asset of American citizenship is entirely a function of 523 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: you and me and everybody out there who's an American citizen. Certainly, 524 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: if you're born here blind good luck. Nobody gets to 525 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: sit around and be like, oh, I'm gonna pick, by 526 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: and large what country I live in. And so we're 527 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: all incredibly fortunate that our ancestors, at some point we're here, 528 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: and we were born here. And it's the one great 529 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: good fortune that I think most Americans do not think 530 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: about enough. You could have been born in Asia, you 531 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: could have been born in Africa, you could have been 532 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: born in some awful war torn region. We're all incredibly 533 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: lucky to be here. Now we give this away to people, 534 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: by and large, based to your point, buck, my understanding 535 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: is largely based on your relationship status with somebody else 536 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: who's already here, or with somebody walking illegally across the chain. 537 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: Migration is a huge part of this, which is why 538 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: I've brought up even the birth tourism issue, where you 539 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: could have a foreign national comes here, gives birth here, 540 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: goes back home, and then at eighteen, that person is 541 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: a US citizen and they can sponsor the whole family. 542 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: And these are the games the scam. Look, our immigration 543 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: says has been incredibly scammed, but a big part of it, 544 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: and this is something to keep in mind. It is 545 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 2: currently federal law that you cannot be a charge of 546 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: the state in any way as an immigrant period. If 547 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: you come here a green card, asylum seeker, whatever, if 548 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: you come here, you're not supposed to be a dependent 549 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: on the state. 550 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: Guess what. 551 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: That's being violated millions and millions and millions of times over. 552 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: And so when you talk about bringing people here with 553 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: more money, I say, okay, that seems certainly better than 554 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: bringing the impoverished masses of the third world, which has 555 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: been the Democrat plan, no question right. And I think 556 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: that's the first The first step of this is recognizing 557 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: better to have people who aren't going to be a 558 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: charge of the state for sure, because they've got millions 559 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: of dollars. Also, I wonder, how do we know this 560 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: actually goes to pay down the debt? I mean, I 561 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: feel like Democrats, if there's a way to light this 562 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: money on fire, when the Democrats out Congress, they're going. 563 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: To do it. 564 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: I think you would have to pass a law that 565 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: says every dollar from this goes to pay down the 566 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 1: national debt. And this is why my way of looking 567 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: at this is, to me, you're using the great And 568 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: let me. 569 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: Say this, it doesn't mean that. 570 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: You are a genius or supremely intelligent that you are rich. 571 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: Let me put that out as a premise. But if 572 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: you have achieved a measure of success where you have 573 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in wealth in Brazil or in Argentine, 574 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: lot a lot of people get rich in the rest 575 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: of the world through the worst kind of corruption and 576 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, underhanded dealing. Just to be clear, there's a 577 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of places where that's actually if you're really rich 578 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: in Russia, it's not because you're so good at business. 579 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: So there are kleptocracies all over the world. My take 580 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: on it though is in many ways this is like 581 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: drafting the first round. Wealthy people around the world and 582 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: their money. When they buy this gold card, much of 583 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: their net wealth would immediately flow into the country and 584 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: they would buy great real estate, and they would they 585 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: would employ a ton of people. 586 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: I sound like you to start talking about the condos, 587 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: the condos and gaza plays like it's going to be 588 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: beautiful gaza. 589 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: I know what I said. 590 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: But they would their money that they spend. This is 591 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: the entire basis of capitalism. The money that they would 592 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: spend here would raise the overall quality of life for everyone, 593 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: as opposed buck to the way we handle immigration now, 594 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: which is poor dude comes in and you and my 595 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: tax dollars have to go to pay for his hotel room. 596 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: No question, the way it is now is not only terrible, 597 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: it's unsustainable. So that I mean, there's one hundred percent 598 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: agreement I think across the right and anybody who's saying 599 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: and can do math on that we cannot bring in 600 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: the impoverished, illiterate masses of the Third world who don't 601 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: speak English and just want access to welfare benefits as 602 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: fast as possible and expect to continue as America. 603 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: So that's that is ironclad truth. But what do we 604 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: do about this? 605 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: So this is let's get I want to get some 606 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: calls in. You want to get some calls in. We'll 607 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: come back here. We'll do a nice, long, a robust 608 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: segment of calls coming up. So if you're on hold, 609 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: stay with us, because I want to get various perspectives 610 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: of this. 611 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: Because I love this. 612 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: Trump brings up a new idea of Clay and I 613 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: are kind of work shopping it on air in real 614 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: time because this wasn't something I was reading about in 615 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: National Review back in nineteen ninety. 616 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: Seven, like anybody talk about it? 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Look, we've got calls 650 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: racked in stacked, we want to get to you. We're 651 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: not going to react to each one the way we'd 652 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: normally do, because you want your voices to be heard here. 653 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: We're coming up on the end of the show. So 654 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Chris in Brockton, Massachusetts, your first up Hit It. 655 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 8: Day. 656 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 9: Hey guys, I just wanted to say I'm a big 657 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 9: supporter of the Gold Card, but I'm also a supporter 658 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 9: of the K one visa. 659 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 8: Right. 660 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 9: I think that American citizens should be able to go overseat. 661 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: And find, you know, exotic women and. 662 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 9: Marry them and bring them back and make them citizens. 663 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 9: My brother, for example, is a is a VET, and 664 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 9: he went overseas and then those travels met a woman 665 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 9: and now they're married and using the K one process 666 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 9: to bring them over here and make her a citizen. 667 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 8: So I'm going to support of both of those, but. 668 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 9: Unfortunately they can'tcel each other out because then rich people 669 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 9: will just marry and bypass that multi million dollar Gold 670 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 9: Card by marrying into citizenship. 671 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: All right, thanks to the call, I see those as different. 672 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: We're key taking your calls. Most of those women aren't rich. 673 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: That's just men who have decided they like somebody else 674 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: outside of the country. And I don't think it's going 675 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: to impact paying down the national debt at all, which 676 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: is the debate here. 677 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk to Dave in Asheville, North Carolina. Dave, what 678 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: have you got? 679 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys already stole my thunder on one idea, 680 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 6: and that is that all the money that would come 681 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 6: in from that program would have to go to the 682 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 6: national debt. But also I'd like to say that I 683 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 6: don't think American citizenship should ever be for sale. I 684 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 6: would be in favor of giving a person a green 685 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 6: card if they paid the five million dollars, and then 686 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 6: once they had that green card, they'd have legal status 687 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 6: and they could go through the same process as anyone 688 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 6: else who has a green card if they want to 689 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 6: become a citizen. 690 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks so much. Gretchen in Georgia, Gretchen, we got you. 691 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: What's right? 692 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 8: Yeah? 693 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, Hello, Rich doesn't always mean desirable. And how many 694 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 7: George Soroses do we want in this country? And would 695 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 7: they buy up all the land and then what would 696 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 7: we do the citizens here that are working to try 697 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 7: to achieve our own goodness by buying our own property 698 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 7: and working the American way. Also, would they be like 699 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 7: the Hollywood types that are all hate Trump haters and 700 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 7: they're all Democrats. Do we need more of those? 701 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: Clay, what do you have to say to that? Thank you, Greg, 702 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: He's got some good questions. I would point out, Yeah, look, 703 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't want George Soros is here, but Rupert Murdoch 704 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: is from Australia and he's the reason that we basically 705 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: have a conservative ecosystem at all. 706 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: So I think it would balance out Rush and Rupert Murdoch. 707 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: Yes, well, but yes, Rush has got an amazing legacy, 708 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: but Rupert legitimately built. I mean the New York Post, 709 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, the Fox News. Now he's got OutKick. 710 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: There are lots of entities that wouldn't exist but for 711 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: the support of Rupert Murdock. 712 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: Mike in Indiana, Yes, yes. 713 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 4: Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon. Yes, my take his gold card. 714 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 4: Wells buy you lawful presence here in this country, but 715 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 4: not citizenship. In fact, we should probably shut off immigration, 716 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: make that the only way you can get in is 717 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 4: to buy your way in as a wafful alien. As 718 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: a green card, but not citizenship. That would that should 719 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: take I don't know, ten to fifteen years to assimilate. 720 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 3: All right, I see this one more call Chris and Tennessee. 721 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 8: Play, you know, especially from Nate Bargatchi's comic Christmas special, 722 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 8: he said, come visit Nashville, but don't move here. The 723 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 8: fact is that it raises all these real estate prices. 724 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 8: And I live in rural Tennessee, and I'm just telling 725 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 8: you it's a big problem. I would love to see 726 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 8: the money come. I think it's a great idea to 727 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 8: get rid of the debt, but I just think it's 728 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 8: going to bring a whole lot of problems. There needs 729 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 8: to be some limitations on this, and I think you 730 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 8: guys have talked about some of those limitations, and that's 731 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 8: good idea. 732 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: I agree all across. So here's what I would say. 733 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: In general, I think I'm pretty optimistic and favorable of this. 734 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: Do you think this is actually gonna happen, mister Midel bettingons, 735 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I actually am curious. Will they 736 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: just reflexively line up against Trump on this? Because here's 737 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: what I see, Buck, I see this paired with birthright 738 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: citizenship right now, we give birthright citizenship, which often is 739 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: a drag on this country to anybody that crosses the 740 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: border illegally and has a baby. But Clay, you got 741 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: to put on your Marxist class warfare hat for a second. 742 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 3: The Democrats be they just want more millionaires and billionaires. 743 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: They just want the rich people, and it's racist. 744 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 2: You'd be like, wait, but we're taking millionaires from China 745 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: and from Brazil and from any where. 746 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 3: They don't care. They're gonna say the class warfare stuff. 747 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: If we do this in general, more money and more 748 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: successful people lifts the overall rising tide of everyone. 749 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 3: That is the story of capitalism. I love this