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Speaker 4: How you doing doing?

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Speaker 3: All right? What's happening other than rain during the opening ceremonies,

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Speaker 3: which that felt oddly appropriate.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was rain during the opening ceremonies. We'll talk Olympics.

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Speaker 2: But you know what other rain was coming down? It

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Speaker 2: was raining cash for NFL quarterbacks yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Baby, nicely done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you like that?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Did that right off the top of my head, right

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Speaker 4: off the top.

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Speaker 2: Drink a little extra coffee today if you could not

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Speaker 2: tell by the tone of my voice. But anyway, all right,

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Speaker 2: so you and I in all seriousness, you know, I

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Speaker 2: love working with you. Me and you producer Ian we start, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of kind of throwing ideas around Friday morning,

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Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, knowing that we're coming on air here at

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Speaker 2: eleven pm Eastern on Saturday. And obviously, you know, we

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Speaker 2: we thought we were gonna lead the show with what

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Speaker 2: appeared to be on paper three very precarious quarterback situations

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Speaker 2: in terms of contracts. Well, two got settled on Friday

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Speaker 2: as Tuatoga Iola Miami Dolphins signs a four year, two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twelve million dollar deal.

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Speaker 4: This was about.

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Speaker 2: Midday on Friday, and then later in the evening, Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love of the Green Bay Packers four year deal two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two million dollars.

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Speaker 4: So Dak is still on the clock. We'll see what

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Speaker 4: happens there.

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Speaker 2: But I want to go ahead and talk about both

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Speaker 2: of these, and I actually you want to start and

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, if we go along on Tua, then

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Speaker 2: we talk about Jordan Love later on in the show.

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Speaker 2: But want to start with Tua because I think there

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Speaker 2: are two very definitive kind of camps on Tua.

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Speaker 4: One is obviously, look, you know, he's been.

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Speaker 2: Injury prone, banged up, is coming off a very productive

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Speaker 2: year last year in which he was able to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: But even then you know, blow a lead in the

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Speaker 2: AFC East Race, you'll lose in an in an AFC

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Speaker 2: playoff game in Kansas City. You and I were on

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Speaker 2: air where it wasn't even competitive. We spent a week

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, how's the weather gonna affect the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: They're going up north, it's gonna be record lows, And

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Speaker 2: then it really was. It kind of played out exactly

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Speaker 2: how we all expected. So there's that side of the coin.

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Speaker 2: There is, of course, the other side of what is

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Speaker 2: really the alternative? What else are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: You're the Miami Dolphins, You've struggled. So those are the

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Speaker 2: two sides. Tua does get the deal done, he is

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Speaker 2: with the Dolphins for another four years. Which side do

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Speaker 2: you land on when you think about Tua as a

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Speaker 2: Dolphin and this four year contract that will pay him

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Speaker 2: well over two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can see the argument for both, but

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Speaker 3: I think it's a mistake. And I hate to say

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Speaker 3: that because there's nothing I mean I would love to

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Speaker 3: see this work out for him, even though I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see the Dolphins win a Super

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Speaker 3: here's a guy that you mentioned he's been injury prone,

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Speaker 3: but let's just throw that out the window. He played

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Speaker 3: all the games last year, okay, and he has decent numbers.

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Speaker 3: But the second part of the problem, the second part

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Speaker 3: of your theory, or the second option, is the one

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Speaker 3: that bothers me because it's what else are you gonna do? Well,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing you're not gonna do with Tua, based

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Speaker 3: on what I've seen, win a super Bowl. So if

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna win a super Bowl with the guy, Look,

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Speaker 3: if you believe that you're gonna win a super Bowl

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Speaker 3: with him, then you pay him what you gotta pay him.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's the story. He's only the other than

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Speaker 3: Ryan's Hill. I think since Dan Marino left in nineteen

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Speaker 3: which is crazy, This is an insane stat But even so,

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Speaker 3: if he's not good enough to win, then what are

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Speaker 3: not actually cashing it in. That's the biggest and I

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Speaker 3: honestly think it's the worst place for a franchise to be.

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Speaker 3: Is almost there. They're in like talk themselves into it mode.

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Speaker 3: It's like, we're close, we're close, we might be able

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Speaker 3: don't think he's a super Bowl winning quarterback. I don't

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Speaker 3: just watching him on the field, watching him in big moments.

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins as a whole are going to have a

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Speaker 3: lot to prove and a lot of it's going to

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Speaker 3: ride on him. But I just don't look at that

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Speaker 3: it does. And I agree I said this to you yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you improve either. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you do better than that right now, But do

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Speaker 3: you need to immediately, Like I'm looking at the future.

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Speaker 3: If I can't win today, at the very least, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to sit here in tread water but never

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Speaker 3: actually do anything. And I think that's the problem when

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Speaker 3: you're in quarterback purgatory, where you have a guy that's

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Speaker 3: he's not bad, but he's not elite by any stretch

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Speaker 3: of the imagination. He does have some red flags that

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Speaker 3: you have to worry about on top of all of that.

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Speaker 3: So that's when I look at it, and I am

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Speaker 3: very skeptical about handing that guy one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because about four or five days ago

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Speaker 2: I actually filled in with Rob Parker on the Odd Couple,

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Speaker 2: and I think I was more anti paying Tua even

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Speaker 2: of the same points that you did, and Rob, to

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Speaker 2: I think there's a few things.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, when I was talking to Rob about this, this

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Speaker 2: was under the presumption that Tua was going to do

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Speaker 2: what every quarterback does and try to get the I mean,

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Speaker 2: everybody tries to get the most possible money, but basically

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Speaker 2: make the argument that I should be the highest paid

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Speaker 4: Blahlah blah whatever.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, obviously there is a lot of

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Speaker 4: But what I would say is.

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Speaker 2: I do lean, and I did lean in your direction

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Speaker 2: from the perspective of you can't win at the highest

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Speaker 2: they used to say back in the day with the NBA,

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Speaker 2: you either want to be at the bottom totally rebuilding

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Speaker 2: want to be anywhere in the middle. And that's kind

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Speaker 2: of where the Dolphins are right now. But as I

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Speaker 2: looked into this more, I think I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 2: First of all, yes, you broke the bank, but but

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Speaker 2: you know, relative to what other guys are getting, but

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Speaker 2: then also relative to what some of these other guys

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Speaker 2: are going to get. You know, there's reports that Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott wants sixty five million a year. You're paying him

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Speaker 2: a little over fifty. This is too. There's that. There's

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Speaker 2: the fact that I think what you said is important, Jason,

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Speaker 2: is that because it's the Dolphins. Because the exact stat

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Speaker 2: they have had twenty five different starting quarterbacks in twenty

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Speaker 2: four seasons. That is insane. And so I think it's

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Speaker 2: this weird deal where because it's that franchise. This isn't

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Speaker 2: short of mediocre essentially a quarterback for twenty plus years.

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Speaker 2: So you add that in. It's a four year deal.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing is that four year

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Speaker 2: thirty years old. I mean, if he hasn't already hit

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Speaker 2: those reasons, I don't love it. You wish you could

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Speaker 2: also don't know that with Tyreek Hill at thirty years old,

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Speaker 2: you just pay Jalen Waddle that pushing to out the

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Speaker 2: the side of you paid him. It's okay, But I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's just I want to believe that

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's naive at this standpoint. I mean, you mentioned

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Speaker 3: Dak and what he's going to request, and I mentioned

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Speaker 3: that as well yesterday. Not Dak, but just you try

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love, we'll have the exact same conversation there. But

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Speaker 3: you know, you look at Trevor Lawrence got two hundred

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Speaker 3: But luckily, if you're a Dolphins fan, Dolphins were able

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Speaker 3: even though that's still a solid amount of money. They

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Speaker 3: have definitely been a turnstyle at the quarterback position, no

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Speaker 3: I don't believe you win a championship with Tua as

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Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks in the league. I mean, in

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Speaker 3: And a lot of that, look, we have top It's

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Speaker 3: not an objective thing because a lot of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, realistically, how many quarterbacks do you look

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Speaker 3: this sky's limit in terms of what you're willing to

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Speaker 3: pay him. I did say to you when we were

436
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Speaker 3: talking about this yesterday in our text chat that if

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Speaker 3: they think Jordan Love is a guy that can win

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Speaker 3: them a super and Matt mcfloor. I think at this

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Speaker 3: point we can say he understands offense, is pretty solid

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Speaker 3: head coach. If they believe that Jordan Love can get

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Speaker 3: them to the Promised Land and he is that good,

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Speaker 3: then pay him as soon as possible so you don't

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Speaker 3: have to pay him later and pay him more. So

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Speaker 3: if that's kind of their thinking is it's only going

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Speaker 3: to get more expensive. He's young. Let's go ahead and

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Speaker 3: make him happy now so he doesn't you know, So

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Speaker 3: there's not any kind of I don't know issues between

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Speaker 3: quarterback and front office, because that's the thing that has

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Speaker 3: certainly happened with that franchise multiple times throughout the course

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Speaker 3: of our lifetime. Maybe that is sort of the equation,

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Speaker 3: the rationale that they're going with of doing this. I

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Speaker 3: do think it seems to be awfully quick to get

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Speaker 3: this done, but there has to be a reason.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, is it quick only because

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Speaker 2: he's in his fourth year. I mean he's going into

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Speaker 2: his fifth year. Yeah, I mean, you know, And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the variable where it doesn't it feels like

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Speaker 2: it's quick, and in some ways it is because he's

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Speaker 2: only been a startup for one year. But that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the precarious situation you put and I understand when

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Speaker 2: they drafted him. Rogers was coming off a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a down year and you can't anticipate that he's

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Speaker 2: gonna win back to back MVPs or maybe you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can assume that for anybody, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I may put to put it delicately like

466
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Speaker 2: Rodgers had more left in the tank than the Packers thought,

467
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Speaker 2: but it came up quick. But it really didn't come

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Speaker 2: up quick because this is his fifth year in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It's just that he is the extremely rare case where

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Speaker 2: he didn't play until year four. Jase, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: talk about guys now. I mean it's like, if you

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Speaker 2: get drafted in the first round, the presumption is you're

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Speaker 2: starting right away. Like that was what made the Michael

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Speaker 2: Pennix thing so shocking obviously this year, but like even

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Speaker 2: somebody like JJ McCarthy, it's like, well they have Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: but I mean McCarthy will probably be starting by the

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Speaker 2: midway point of the season. I mean, Jordan Love went

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Speaker 2: three full seasons, started a grand total of one game,

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Speaker 2: and that was the game of course that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: has depositive for COVID with the whole I'm whatever he said,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm what did he say, I'm whatever, I'm innocuate,

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Speaker 2: I'm an I'm I can't remember what he said, but

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Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers said something, didn't have the vacs whatever.

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Speaker 2: Who cares the point I'm trying to make. That was

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Speaker 2: the only career start that Jordan Love had prior to

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Speaker 2: last season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah again, I mean I think that I think that

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Speaker 3: he played well enough to give you a lot of

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Speaker 3: hope if you were a Green Bay fan. But they

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Speaker 3: really have committed the franchise to him at this point,

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Speaker 3: with as much guaranteed as he's getting and as fast

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Speaker 3: as he is getting it, you have turned over the

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Speaker 3: keys faster than you you see. I mean, even look,

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Speaker 3: you're you're right about when he started and how long

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Speaker 3: he sat, and and really what's odd about that is

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Speaker 3: maybe this is not a thing that franchises can do

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Speaker 3: anymore because you don't get the rookie window. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: don't get Joe Burrow, you don't get Justin Herbert, you

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Speaker 3: don't get a lot of this time to build around you.

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Speaker 3: Don't get CJ. Stroud starting immediately. Maybe you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to start him immediately because Jordan Love got good, or

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Speaker 3: you prove that he was good in one season and

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Speaker 3: then you had to turn around and pay him over

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Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars immediately, like you didn't get anything

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Speaker 3: back on that. Now, was he gonna be that good

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Speaker 3: if he didn't sit for a couple of years. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. We're never gonna know, but we have gone

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Speaker 3: to a place I think in negotiating and just the

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Speaker 3: way football is gonna work, that the days of quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: being drafted and sitting are gonna be over, not just

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Speaker 3: because of fan expectations, but because you've got to maximize

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Speaker 3: that investment before you have to commit so much of

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Speaker 3: your franchise overall cap to it that you can't afford

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Speaker 3: to sit somebody down for three years.

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Speaker 4: It's such a good point. It's such a good point.

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Speaker 2: And again I know that ultimately again when they drafted

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love, they didn't think that Aaron Rodgers had as

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Speaker 2: much left in the tank as he did. But it

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Speaker 2: is a great point that you kind of put yourself

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Speaker 2: in this precarious situation where if a got for By

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Speaker 2: the way, the opposite could be true, could be true

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: Jason.

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Speaker 2: You know, if he doesn't play well last year, you

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Speaker 2: know he's coming towards the end of that rookie contract,

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Speaker 2: and I know there's you know, franchise tags and all that.

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Speaker 2: But let's say he didn't play well last year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you just move off of them after a year.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's an interesting point. And the not starting

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Speaker 2: until year four is very unique. To your point, I

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Speaker 2: don't think we'll see much of it in the NFL

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Speaker 2: going forward. Fox Sports Radio Era Toards Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Tyreck dot Com studios, will come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss some other news and notes from a busy

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Speaker 2: week of NFL.

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Speaker 4: But first let's get to what's trending with Steve Saga.

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Speaker 4: What's up Sager?

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Speaker 8: And by the way, I looked it up that Jordan

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Speaker 8: loves playoff win at Dallas, Fox got forty million viehwa. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: knew it was a monster, which was the highest audience

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Speaker 8: any wildcard game his head in almost a decade.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's the reverse Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna be good, do it on

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football against Patrick Mahoss Thanksgiving Day, and a

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Speaker 2: couple of.

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Speaker 8: Years before, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Remember

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Speaker 8: that's right, expanded playoffs. Speaking of TV ratings, the little

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Speaker 8: con context, the NBA regular season that just finished, the

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Speaker 8: national TV games averaged one point six million viewers. Olympic

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Speaker 8: opening ceremony got twenty eight point six million viewers.

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Speaker 4: Twenty eight point six yesterday. That is interesting.

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Speaker 8: We will get to Olympic news in a moment while

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Speaker 8: you're talking. NFL. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson returned to practice today.

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Speaker 8: He had missed four of the first five due to illness.

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Speaker 8: Steelers quarterback Russell Wilson did not practice again due to

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Speaker 8: a calf injury, but he did participate in individual drills.

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Speaker 8: Lions kicker Michael Badgeley was officially placed on ir torn hamstring,

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Speaker 8: the problem he's out for the year. Saints defensive back

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Speaker 8: Marshawn Lattimore sat out practice with a hip flexor injury,

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Speaker 8: and the Jets signed your favorite eron tours, Adrian Martinez,

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Speaker 8: the UFL MVP quarterback.

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Speaker 4: So you're going to say former Yukon Husky Tim Boyle

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Speaker 4: I thought this was.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, only we could be that lucky.

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Speaker 3: Well he was.

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Speaker 4: He was the backup last year.

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Speaker 8: Well, we've seen the starter, so I think in a

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Speaker 8: sense we've seen the backup. The Hall of Fame Exhibition

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Speaker 8: is Thursday, believe it or not. At Thursday. It's August first,

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Speaker 8: Texans against Bears. Every other team starts the preseason schedule

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Speaker 8: at least a week later.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, do we know? Is eber Flusa play guys

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Speaker 2: in the preseason? Guy like you think we'll see Caleb.

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Speaker 8: Oh, he's got to play this guy, doesn't he?

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Speaker 4: I hope? So, I mean, don't you don't know what

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Speaker 4: you have?

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Speaker 8: It's true, and you actually are attempting to do something

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Speaker 8: this year. I mean they are quite confident this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean everybody's saying it's the best situation that any

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Speaker 2: rookie's ever walked into.

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Speaker 4: We talked about that last week. Go back now, listen

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Speaker 4: to the podcast. Have you missed that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you just can't sit line or receivers while he's in,

585
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Speaker 8: obviously because that would be counterproductive. But yes, I'm expecting

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Speaker 8: him to see in preseed. I would be disappointed if

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Speaker 8: I did not see him in preseason. Record to the Olympics.

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Speaker 8: US men swimming won the gold tonight in the four

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Speaker 8: by one hundred freestyle relay, beating Australia. In the women's relay,

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Speaker 8: Australia won the gold, with the silver going to the US.

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Speaker 8: Katie Ladecci took bronze in the four hundred meter freestyle.

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Speaker 8: Canada men's basketball defeated Greece eighty six seventy nine despite

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Speaker 8: thirty four points from Jannis Antennacumpo. US men's basketball starts

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Speaker 8: Sunday against Serbia and the scandal. Canada's women's soccer coach

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Speaker 8: Bev Priestman was suspended for a year for using drones

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Speaker 8: to spy on opponents in recent years. They finally got

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Speaker 8: caught this past week in France spying on their opening opponent.

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Speaker 8: This is like Watergate, where there's one arrest and it covers,

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Speaker 8: uncovers this entire thing that's been going on for years,

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Speaker 8: that's founding.

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Speaker 3: Aby using the drone in this situation, How is it not, Belichick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna say, oh, Canada, oh very good. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that good, but it's okay. I appreciate you playing.

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Speaker 3: It up now as good as a segue earlier that.

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Speaker 2: Was good raining money on these quarterbacks. Continue to Sager,

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Speaker 2: I'm cutting you off.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, we are done. Just to remind that we've

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Speaker 8: got not only the basketball tomorrow, there's US Women's soccer tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: There was less on the Saturday schedule, but we got

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Speaker 8: two weeks worth of Olympics. NASCAR's off for two weeks,

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Speaker 8: WNBA's off for about a month, Women's soccer league's off

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Speaker 8: for about a month. So a lot going on in France.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much to Seger.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday An Tours

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. So, Jay mart you reference the tees from

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Speaker 2: earlier in the show because I said, you said it

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Speaker 2: was rainy at the opening ceremonies, and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it was also ranting cash on all these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love gets paid to it, gets paid. The one

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Speaker 2: guy that's sitting there, you know, I got mean. I

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Speaker 2: guess he got paid a while ago, but he's looking

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Speaker 2: to get paid again, as Dak Prescott. Obviously, what makes

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys unique is that it is at a time

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Speaker 2: when CD lamp has not reported to training camp because

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Speaker 2: he is looking for a new deal. Obviously, Michael Parsons

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Speaker 2: is looking for a new deal. And when I financially

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Speaker 2: about all three of these quarterback situations, they're all little

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Speaker 2: bit different. The Cowboys obviously, DA's a little bit older,

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Speaker 2: he's had the shortcomings in the playoffs, and as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: those two young guys want to get paid and want

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Speaker 2: to get paid. Now, what do you make of a

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Speaker 2: crazy situation in Dallas?

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Speaker 3: I mean that again, we're talking about a ton of money,

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Speaker 3: and eventually, if you're gonna pay somebody, are they gonna win? Right? Like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand they're really good, but how much

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Speaker 3: money do you pay to just keep being really good?

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Speaker 3: I know we had this same conversation about Tua. I

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Speaker 3: look at Ceedee Lamb and I say, look, Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 3: is one of those guys. He's one of those outstanding

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Speaker 3: wide receivers. I've also started looking at wide receivers and

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering, but are they are there not too many

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Speaker 3: good ones to commit too much money to anyone? And

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Speaker 3: I know that there's differences. You've got a Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 3: or Jamar Chase, and I think Ceedee Lamb falls in.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that we are getting on average

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Speaker 3: two or three wide receivers a year now out of

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Speaker 3: the draft at least that end up being just unbelievable,

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Speaker 3: really really fast. It used to it used to be

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Speaker 3: a position that it took a while to kind of

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Speaker 3: develop in the NFL, and now it's just kind of become.

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Speaker 3: I would say it's necessarily the new running back. But

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Speaker 3: it does seem like you can find yourself a really

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Speaker 3: really good wide receiver if you want one, not just

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Speaker 3: in the draft, but you could always find one. I

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Speaker 3: do think Ceedee Lamb is one of those kind of

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Speaker 3: elite ones that maybe you do pay of the two,

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Speaker 3: which one? Which one would you pay me?

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Speaker 4: Personally?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you gave a definitive this

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Speaker 2: is what I would do, But everything that you said

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Speaker 2: aligns with with what what I believe is that listen, listen.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I'll say this about dak You know,

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Speaker 4: we know what he is.

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Speaker 2: He's great in the community, great representation of the universe

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Speaker 2: of the you know, we'll get to college football in

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Speaker 2: the second hour, but great representative of the of the

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Speaker 2: star of the organization.

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Speaker 4: Never gets in any trouble.

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Speaker 3: Always said to God, yeah, yeah, great guy. Sounds like

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Speaker 3: Brownie James on a football.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, no, no, it sounds like like

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Speaker 2: we're setting him up on a date.

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Speaker 4: Oh he's a great guy, But what's the butt.

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Speaker 2: The butt is he's thirty years old and we have

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Speaker 2: seen him year after year after year after year not

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Speaker 2: get it done in the biggest games that matter in

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Speaker 2: the in the postseason. I should say he's had some

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Speaker 2: big moments in the regular season. And I am with you.

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Speaker 2: Is that I listen, if I was Jerry, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I said, before you and I were even working together,

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Speaker 2: I said this the last time his contract came up.

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Speaker 2: Is if you're Jerry or Stephen Jones or whatever, you

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Speaker 2: have to tell him like, dude, we can pay you,

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Speaker 2: but there's a cap to what we can pay you,

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Speaker 2: because we got because first of all, you know, we've.

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Speaker 4: Let me backtraight.

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Speaker 2: We've seen you as as as you got paid, and

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Speaker 2: as the roster around you, he wasn't as good. You've

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Speaker 2: had success, but you haven't elevated your individual play. You've

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Speaker 2: been as good.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: There was moments last year where people were talking about

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Speaker 2: him as an MVP, but he kind of regretsed.

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Speaker 4: The meaning was what he was.

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Speaker 3: And so glad you said it that way, because that's

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Speaker 3: where I am.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I know where you're I.

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Speaker 3: Know exactly where you're headed. It's like you're a guy

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Speaker 3: where stuff needs to be good around you. And in

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Speaker 3: order for stuff to be good around you, we can't

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Speaker 3: give you everything. We can't give you any in your

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Speaker 3: bank account. Yeah, and we got to give some of

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Speaker 3: these other guys that stuff too. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: I said.

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Speaker 2: Let's come back and continue this because I think Dak

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Speaker 2: is fascinating. He is looking for a new contract. Cdelam

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Speaker 2: is looking for a new contract. We'll continue this conversation

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Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Eric Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Before the break, we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: precarious situation in Dallas. Dak Prescott wants to get paid.

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Speaker 2: The problem Ceedee Lamb wants to get paid. Michael Parsons

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Speaker 2: wants to get paid. And this is a salary cap league.

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Speaker 2: There's only so much you could do now it is

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Speaker 2: worth noting earlier in the week, Jerry Jones, in specific

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Speaker 2: reference to Dak said that we fully expect him to

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Speaker 2: be a cowboy next year. I don't know what else

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Speaker 2: he would say, and Stephen Jones actually today referenced that

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Speaker 2: there has been movement with both DAK and CD.

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Speaker 4: But before the break, Jason, I mean we were.

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Speaker 2: I think honestly, just having an honest conversation about Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott great in the community, represents the organization.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that he comes up big enough

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Speaker 2: in big games, and it is clear that you need

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Speaker 2: talent around him. And so as weird as it sounds,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to get CD's deal done first,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know what DAK is without CD.

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Speaker 4: And there, you know, we know everything that.

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Speaker 2: Was lost in the offseason outside of you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: not including CD, who's obviously still there. Point I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to make is great guy great whatever, great, this is

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Speaker 2: great that, but we've seen who he is. He's on

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Speaker 2: the other side of thirty. This isn't Jordan Love that

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Speaker 2: has a one year sample size. This isn't Tua that

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Speaker 2: was awesome last year. And if he could stay healthy,

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Speaker 2: who knows. We kind of know who Dak is right now,

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Speaker 2: and I understand the Cowboys being hesitant to push forward

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Speaker 2: on a long term extension.

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Speaker 3: Thirty six touchdowns, nine interceptions, sixty nine zero point five

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Speaker 3: percent completion. I mean, the numbers are really really good.

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Speaker 3: As we said, he was third in yards. But the

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Speaker 3: question you asked is the right one. What is he

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Speaker 3: without Cebee Lamb? Is he more dependent on what's around

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Speaker 3: him than what's around him being dependent on him? And

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's I don't think it's all

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Speaker 3: or nothing. I think it's sixty forty or forty sixty

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Speaker 3: or maybe even closer than that. I also think Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott strikes me as somebody that if he were to

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Speaker 3: leave and go somewhere else he might be better because

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Speaker 3: he's not going to be playing for the Cowboys anymore.

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Speaker 3: Then he can maybe just go play football. I think

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Speaker 3: he's exactly who you want is to face your franchise.

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Speaker 3: But is he who you want on the field fourth

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Speaker 3: quarter in an NFC playoff game? I don't know. As

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Speaker 3: matter of fact, I do know no he's not, because

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Speaker 3: we would have seen it by now. Every stat tells

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Speaker 3: you you should pay him whatever he wants. One O

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Speaker 3: six is his passer rating. I mean, he's superb in

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Speaker 3: all those things, but he hadn't done anything, but neither

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Speaker 3: has the franchise. So I do think there are systemic problems.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't say how much do you think are tie? Are

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Speaker 2: those are tied together?

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Speaker 3: I think there. I think it's all kind of one.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying if he goes somewhere else, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he took a

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Speaker 3: springboard and really was more along the lines of what

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Speaker 3: most of the people that love him have said about him.

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Speaker 3: In terms of a football player, he doesn't strike me

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Speaker 3: as the guy that I want under pressure, and especially

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Speaker 3: not Cowboys pressure, just because he does seem to come

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Speaker 3: up small in the moments where you need him and

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Speaker 3: what he's asking for. If he's legitimately asking for that,

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Speaker 3: I almost think you've got to You've got to hold

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Speaker 3: him to it and say, all right, if you can

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Speaker 3: get that somewhere else, good luck. Like there has to

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Speaker 3: be a ceiling somewhere when you're not winning playoff games

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Speaker 3: with the guy and you've already given him a crazy contract.

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Speaker 3: A few years ago, You've been pretty loyal to him

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Speaker 3: throughout his career, and he's been a little to you too,

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Speaker 3: But he also continually comes to you when he wants

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Speaker 3: to get more money, which of course he does, and

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Speaker 3: you can't blame him for it, but you can call

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Speaker 3: his bluff and say, go get it somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: So two things.

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Speaker 2: One, I agree with that, and I do think again,

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Speaker 2: it's a little bit different than a TUA than a whoever,

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Speaker 2: because you know, Ceedee lamb Is is twenty five years old,

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Speaker 2: you'd think that, you know, basically you can draft hypothetically,

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Speaker 2: let's say Dak doesn't you know, you can't get a

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Speaker 2: deal done with Dak. You could draft a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and that rookie quarterback is gonna sort of be on

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Speaker 2: the same timeline as CD, where again, Tyreek Hill is

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Speaker 2: much more in line with the contract that you just

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Speaker 2: gave to et cetera. I think the counter is also

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Speaker 2: true as well, and I do wonder I'm sure, But

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Speaker 2: but behind the scenes, if Dak's people are using this

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Speaker 2: to his advantage, which is, yeah, Dak might be on

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Speaker 2: the other side of thirty, Yeah he might, but.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know who else is getting up there

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Speaker 4: in age.

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Speaker 2: Not just Dak, it's Jerry Jones, And I'm just curious, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you say this to your bosson negotiations,

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Speaker 2: and I know Dak isn't the one speaking, but like,

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Speaker 2: do you want to start over at eighty one years old?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to start over with a rookie quarterback?

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that's interesting if this

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Speaker 2: thing craters out this year, by the way it I

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Speaker 2: think it's weird and it's gonna be interesting. What if

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00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: does win twelve thirteen games again this year? But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like so one he could have that season, he

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: might have no choice but to pay him. But then

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Speaker 2: the counter is is that if you lose him, if

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Speaker 2: you let him walk, then you're probably gonna have to

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Speaker 2: get a rookie quarterback and you're probably not gonna get

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Speaker 2: the marquee head coach if you have to get rid

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Speaker 2: of Mike McCarthy. So that's the other thing too, is

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Speaker 2: it becomes a pseudo rebuild. So it's just a very

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Speaker 2: interesting scenario in Dallas. I'm not sure there's a perfect

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Speaker 2: answer as to what they should do, but they find

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Speaker 2: themselves in a mess.

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Speaker 3: Jason yeah, man, I don't know that there is either,

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Speaker 3: And I think maybe they're in a situation where they

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Speaker 3: feel pot committed. And I've seen other people say if

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Speaker 3: he goes out, the Raiders should give him whatever he

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Speaker 3: wants and all this kind of stuff. I'm like, again,

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Speaker 3: you're giving him whatever he wants, but what you should

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Speaker 3: want as a super Bowl? Yeah, and you have to

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Speaker 3: believe that he can actually win that for you to

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Speaker 3: commit this kind of money to him, or you're just

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Speaker 3: gonna be running in place. I don't want to be

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Speaker 3: on a treadmill. I want to actually get somewhere.

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Speaker 4: There is no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And it is a fascinating set up with Dallas as

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is looking for a new deal against CD

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Speaker 2: Lamb and Micah Parsons as well. Fox Sports Radio air

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Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyrex Studios.

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Speaker 4: We have, uh, we have.

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Speaker 2: We have a busy, busy two more hours ahead. Uh, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, we got to get some

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Speaker 2: college football.

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Speaker 4: Did you see what?

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Speaker 2: But real quick? Did you We're gonna get to it

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Speaker 2: next hour. Did you see what Lincoln Riley said this week? Jason,

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Speaker 2: I mean he said a lot. But did you see

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Speaker 2: what he said?

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame King Lincoln Row is actually getting kind of

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Speaker 3: on my nerves.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's getting on your nerves and we're gonna discuss

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Speaker 2: it all. Guess what Kirby Smart's getting on my nerves

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Speaker 2: now with how he's running to program. We're gonna discuss

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Speaker 2: both those topics. Also, the Olympics have begun, twenty eight

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Speaker 2: million people watch the opening ceremonies.

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Speaker 3: Nerves.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Jason's fired up.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna discuss all that next air Tours, Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: We are in on a busy Saturday night. One hour

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Speaker 2: in the book books, two hours to go. We have

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Speaker 2: so much more to discuss.

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Speaker 2: should be Ertors. Jason Martin, taking me up till two

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Speaker 2: Show will follow us. So Jason, I am here in

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Speaker 2: the tyraq La studios. We got three different TVs on

876
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Speaker 2: with the Olympics, and it is obviously the first full

877
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: day at least, you know, here on the West Coast,

878
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: it's still Saturday, Saturday, the first full day of the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: The opening ceremonies on Friday, to as de Seger said,

880
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: drew twenty eight million viewers, way more than I was anticipating.

881
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: And I do think it's interesting because every single time

882
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: the Olympics are played, we always have these conversations about

883
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: their kind of role in the sports ecosystem, and you know,

884
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: we kind of live in this world where every sport

885
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: is broadcast and we get sports every single day. Essentially,

886
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: it seems like, whatever, where do the Olympics stand in

887
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: your opinion? Do they still matter? Is it something that

888
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: you tune into for a couple weeks every four years?

889
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: Are you into it? Are you not into it? Where

890
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: are you at with the Olympics.

891
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm not really into it. I think where I stand

892
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: and just kind of how I evaluate it is the

893
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: Olympics still has viewers, but you're not hanging around with

894
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: a bunch of your friends who are sports fans talking

895
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: about the Olympics. But if you are somebody that doesn't

896
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: watch sports all that much, but you do get caught

897
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: up in pageantry or parades or royal family or you

898
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 3: know that kind of thing, I feel like it bridges

899
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: that gap. You heard just Segre say in the first hour,

900
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: what twenty eight million watch the opening ceremonies, But how

901
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: many theme are sports fans? Like? I watched a little

902
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: bit because my wife had it on. I saw the

903
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: US I heard Peyton Manning, I heard Kelly Clarkson. It

904
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: was kind of odd. I saw some dude playing piano

905
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: in a downpour. And then I saw some things that

906
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: made me want to boycott the Olympics completely because they

907
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: just offended my sensibilities and my faith and every every

908
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: every aspect of common decency for any human being. But

909
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: perspective of that, I think that's what it is. I

910
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: don't think it's a bunch of real, like hardcore sports

911
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: fans watching the Olympics. I just don't. I think that

912
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: the viewership comes from the cultural context, the international and

913
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: of course you put it in Paris, so then there's

914
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: a lot more to look at. There's a lot more,

915
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, just esthetically, it becomes something that's it just

916
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: feels like it's like the same kind of people to

917
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: watch the Olympics are to me, are more likely to

918
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: go to art museums than they are the Phillies game,

919
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: if that makes sense.

920
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Speaker 2: That's really interesting because actually that's kind of you know,

921
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: the exact situation that I find with myself is that

922
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: I it was actually very interesting. So like my wife

923
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: like literally asked me during the day yesterday. Now, admittedly

924
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: I didn't know that they were broadcasting the opening ceremonies live.

925
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: By the way, I know what you were talking about

926
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: with some of the you know, decisions that were made,

927
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: you know, what to highlight during the opening ceremonies. Weirdly,

928
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't think they showed that, you know, that scene that.

929
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Speaker 3: I certainly hope not. I didn't see that live. I

930
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 3: saw it the way most people did, I think social media.

931
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: But it I pray that did not air on television either,

932
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: one of the two things that were most offensive.

933
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually didn't see it, and I was kind

934
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: of looking for it because I wanted to see what

935
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: all the you know what, you know whatever. At bottom

936
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: line is what I would say is it was interesting

937
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: because my wife did like, Hey, do you want to

938
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: watch the opening ceremonies.

939
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: I was actually kind of surprised by it.

940
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: Again, did not realizing that they were actually broadcasting it

941
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Speaker 2: in real time. It was on the West coast early afternoon,

942
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: and then they replayed it in the evening time. And

943
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: then it was also interesting because today I'm in the

944
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: room doing work. You know, it's kind of that time

945
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: of year where I'm trying to get ready for football season,

946
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: catch up on everything that I missed, you know, go

947
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: through all the preview magazines, do whatever. And then the

948
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: other room, I hear her watching you know whatever. As

949
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I can tell you what was

950
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: going on. What was on TV at that exact moment

951
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: was the candidate Grease basketball game, because I I heard like,

952
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Shake guil just Alexander, and I was like, are you

953
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: like she I guarantee you that is the first time

954
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: in her life she has ever seen Shake guild justs

955
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Alexander play basketball.

956
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: Didn't watch him for a single game in Oklahoma City.

957
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: She's not an NBA fan, She's not even really a

958
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: basketball fan, but she had it on and then you know,

959
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: kind of goes to the other sports whatever. So I

960
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: think there's definitely something to it where I think there's

961
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people that get into it. I guess

962
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: I would disagree that that, you know, the people that

963
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: watch it are I don't think you said this, but

964
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, I think I'm a pretty die hard sports

965
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: fan and I tune it in. I tune into it,

966
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, but I also tune into it as a

967
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: casual viewer. I don't go into it expecting that you

968
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: and I are gonna be talking Katie Ledecki when we

969
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: when we sign on at eleven pm Eastern times.

970
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: So see, now, look if she look there are certain

971
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: athletes and certain storylines that I would I would disagree

972
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 3: and say, yes, you do, but they're few and far between. Yes,

973
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: most of it. It is athletes that you don't know

974
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: about that you come to know about. You hear their story,

975
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: you see the you know, the human interest pieces and

976
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: all that, and they've worked so hard and then you

977
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: just you root for the flag more than anything, and

978
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: you learn about them as each sport goes along. But

979
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: there are your Michael Phelps you're you saying bolts through

980
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: the years, You're Katie Ladecki's as you mentioned Team USA basketball, like,

981
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: there are some things that change the game, but like

982
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: ninety five percent of what happens at the Olympics is

983
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: not something that the vast majority of our audience is

984
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: gonna want us to talk about even if they did

985
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: watch it.

986
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, and that's what I was gonna ask you, is

987
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: you know you said that you don't believe that, Like

988
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: the casual guy that you know that watches twelve hours

989
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: of football on a Sunday is sitting around, is telling

990
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: his boys, hey, let's go hit the sports bar and

991
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: catch the Olympics that starting at eleven am, like you

992
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: might on a football Sunday. But my counter to that

993
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: would be is that because it's the Olympics, or is

994
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: that because there are none of those generational athletes? Because

995
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: I do think, like you know, a couple things. One,

996
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: obviously there are things that are I think probably the

997
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: only thing that's super mainstream this year in the Olympics

998
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 2: is probably men's basketball, specifically Team USA. If for some

999
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: reason they struggle, if for some reason they don't win gold,

1000
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: I think that's that becomes a very mainstream talking point.

1001
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: But I do wonder, like I feel like Michael Phelps

1002
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: was a big deal in like twenty sixteen.

1003
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: You know, Usain Bolt was a big deal.

1004
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 2: It was funny even Michael Pelps was on the TV

1005
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: today and you know, my wife and my sister in

1006
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: law were over. My sister in law was over and

1007
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: they know exactly who he was, and oh I used

1008
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: to watch him. So do you think it's it's because

1009
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: we just don't have those mainstream athletes as opposed to

1010
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: people that there's that there's no like instead of saying

1011
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 2: like there's no talking points for like diehard sports fans.

1012
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: Do you think that's this specific Olympics or do you

1013
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: think it's like just do you think is this specific

1014
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 2: Olympics or do you think we've just kind of reached

1015
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: that era where it's casual viewing as opposed to kind

1016
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: of like hardcore viewing, you know what I mean?

1017
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think I think more so this

1018
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: Olympics than maybe it has been, But I think we've

1019
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: been trending towards this. Yes, when you have a transcendent

1020
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: athlete or you have one that's more that has more

1021
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: mainstream appeal that you've known, that you followed their career.

1022
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: That does change it to some degree. And yes, okay,

1023
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: you're going to look at the schedule over a two

1024
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: week span and find out when Michael Phelps was swimming,

1025
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: for example, and you are going to tune it in

1026
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: and you can go back and you can look at

1027
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: the ratings for certain events at certain times with certain athletes,

1028
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: and you'll see that. You'll see that play out pretty consistently.

1029
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 3: I think the Olympics as a whole. There's a few

1030
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: things here. One is it felt a lot more special

1031
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: when we didn't have sports all the time, but we do.

1032
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: We have over a dozen networks devoted to nothing but

1033
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven sports. We have it completely at

1034
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: our fingertips, on our phones, on our tablets, and on

1035
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: our desktops. Let me everywhere, let me jump into.

1036
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: There's the thing that I think people underestimate too, is

1037
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: that stuff, besides, like the super mainstream stuff, has become

1038
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: sort of mainstream. Right, So it's like, oh, it used

1039
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: to be like the NBA Finals would end and there'd

1040
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: just be a dead period.

1041
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: Well, it's like this year we had Copa. Copa got

1042
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: good numbers.

1043
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: You know, you know, Summer League is sort of a

1044
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: thing that you're not living and dying by it, but

1045
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: it's on so like even from like ten years ago,

1046
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't remember Summer League being on every single night,

1047
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: you know, for two straight weeks. I don't remember COPA

1048
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: being a thing. I don't remember Euros being as big

1049
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: of a thing. So that's the other thing too, is

1050
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: it's not just that everything is accessible twenty four hours

1051
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: a day, but it's also that I just feel like

1052
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 2: more things, even if they're a little bit more niche,

1053
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: are more available to us than they were even a

1054
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: decade ago.

1055
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's true too. I mean that's definitely true.

1056
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: But again, when you have all these different outlets that

1057
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: can put this stuff out, and you have access to

1058
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: every game, slash sport, I mean, you've got video games

1059
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: being played on TV, even though that seems to be

1060
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: dying out a little bit. You've got Cornhole on TV.

1061
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: You've got all of these kinds of things. It no

1062
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 3: longer feels as unique. Every four years, even if it's

1063
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: still the best and all this, there's a championship in

1064
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: some sport seemingly every day on some channel, Like there's

1065
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 3: something that's supposed to matter, and I think it all

1066
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: just becomes noise. And then you also add into that

1067
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: everything else that we have access to that we're paying

1068
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 3: for via streaming services and all this other stuff that's

1069
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: not sports as well. And so to get my attention

1070
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: on the Olympics, it better be something special that you've

1071
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: been able to sell me on in advance. It's not

1072
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: just going to be me watching for six hours a

1073
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: night track and field or all this. I remember growing

1074
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: up watching the eighty four Olympics when I was six.

1075
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: I remember watching at my grandma and granddaddy's house in Virginia.

1076
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: I remember sitting on the floor with my legs crossed

1077
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: watching the television through that time period, and then of

1078
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: course nineteen eighty eight and ninety two and ninety six,

1079
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Speaker 3: and then when it was in Atlanta right there in

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Speaker 3: ninety six, I was in Atlanta at the time that

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Speaker 3: the opening ceremonies were about to start, just barely avoiding

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Speaker 3: being in the wrong place as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: with what happened there. But I think, and maybe it

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00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: has to some degree as I've gotten older, but I

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00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 3: just think the myriad of options that are now out

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00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: there both sports and otherwise just makes it feel much

1087
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 3: less special as an event. It doesn't seem nearly as

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00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 3: iconic as it once did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's so to it. I think

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00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: it's the I think it's the having everything available. And

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00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: I just think, like I said, is that there's just

1092
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: there's so much sports. It's not just you know again,

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00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: I go back to even ten years ago, it's like

1094
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 2: you'd watch whatever, You'd watch the mainstream stuff. You'd watch,

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00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, the NFL and major college football and the

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00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament and MLB and whatever, NBA, but it really

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00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: felt like once the NBA finals were done, it was

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00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: like there was no sports. And now again we had

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00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: COPA this summer, we have Summer League becomes a thing

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: for a week or two, we have you know whatever,

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00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: fill in the blanks.

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00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: So it's interesting.

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00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: By the way I'm looking it up, it looks like

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00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 2: in twoenty sixteen, that was the final year that Michael

1105
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: Phelps swam, viewership for his final race peaked at thirty

1106
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: two million viewers. Now, admittedly that was a historic moment

1107
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: with a historic Olympian, but it does speak to I

1108
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: just think it's a different world.

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00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 4: I'm with you and I I pretty much.

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00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: I guess what I would say is I basically agree

1111
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: with everything that you said, is that I think it

1112
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: draws in a casual viewer.

1113
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: I think it's a casual watch just in general.

1114
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: Of Again, I think there are certain moments that you

1115
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: and I know, Hey, if the US, like if you

1116
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: and I were doing a Sunday show instead of a

1117
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Saturday show and the US loses to Serbia and men's basketball, mark, yeah,

1118
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about that, but they're just it's

1119
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: just not like a die hard sports kind of thing.

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00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: But it still is pretty cool nonetheless, But real quick,

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00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: I still enjoy it even if it's a different kind

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00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: of watch.

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Speaker 4: Are you the same?

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, Yeah, yes, yeah, Like I just

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00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm not like sitting there with the back of the

1126
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 3: day TV guide making sure I'm watching every second of it.

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00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: It's just it doesn't hold my attention that way. But certainly, yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it will be on from time to time

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Speaker 3: as I'm living my life. It's just I'm not living

1130
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: my life around the Olympics. And there was a time

1131
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: where it felt like the Olympics was such a happening

1132
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: that it almost seemed like the events of the world,

1133
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: or at least the events in the country, kind of

1134
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: slowed to a crawl and everything was about the five rings.

1135
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff. Olympics one day officially in the books,

1136
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: of course. The opening ceremonies was Friday night. Fox Sports

1137
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: Radio er towards Jayson Martin, broadcasting live from the tyrexs

1138
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: dot com studio. Should mention shortly after the show, our

1139
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: podcast will be going up. If you missed any of

1140
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: today's show, be sure to check out our podcast to

1141
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and

1142
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: be sure to also follow, rate and review the show

1143
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: again to search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

1144
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: You'll see our show as soon as we go off air.

1145
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: Coming up, we go back to football this time College.

1146
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: You won't believe what Lincoln Riley said, and you won't

1147
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: believe what it means for one of the biggest games

1148
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: on the football schedule ahead. That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Her tours. Jason Martin

1150
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios. You gotta

1151
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: hear what Lincoln Raley had to say this week. It's

1152
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 2: gonna get the blood boiling of any true college football fan.

1153
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: Gonna get to that in just one moment for you.

1154
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: Let's toss it over the news desk to sager, what

1155
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: is trending.

1156
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 4: My friend.

1157
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 8: We'd have the Irish theme song in the background here

1158
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 8: to start this segment after that, by the way, you

1159
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 8: guys referenced it, just to flesh it out. One of

1160
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 8: the offensive moments to people online in the opening ceremonies

1161
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 8: from Paris yesterday was it seemed like they were mocking

1162
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 8: the well Christ himself because it was the Last Supper.

1163
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 8: It seemed like the Last Supper painting how they were

1164
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 8: lined up. It was actually in the Olympics had said this,

1165
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 8: that was the Bacchanalia feast Greek God, Greeks, Olympics Da

1166
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 8: Vinci with the painting born in Italy, and that painting

1167
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 8: is in Italy, not French. So I get the confusion

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00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 8: on that it was framed like the Last Supper if

1169
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 8: the camera was looking straight at a table of people.

1170
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 8: There are other things to be offended on that should

1171
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 8: not be one of them. But my overall reaction to

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 8: yesterday's opening ceremony in Paris, and we talked about a

1173
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 8: bit on the air last night was I can't believe

1174
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 8: they pulled it off to not use a stadium and

1175
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 8: have it all outside and it rained.

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00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: Has there been any.

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00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: Response to like fans in the stands, because I don't,

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00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't. They wouldn't have been aware of any area,

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00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: you know, moving cameras and you know this guy's as

1180
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: Jason said, is playing a piano up there and there's.

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Speaker 8: Three and a half miles of people along the river.

1182
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 8: I can't imagine. Yeah, that everybody picked up on everything.

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 8: I know there were a lot of video screens up

1184
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 8: and down the river, so maybe they could enjoy it

1185
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 8: that way.

1186
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: But the only thing that we found in our household

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00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: my wife was born in Guatemala. They were on the

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00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: same ship as Great Britain. They showed Great Britain went

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: right to commercial after that shoot. There was some actually

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Speaker 2: fire and brimstone in the Taurus Al Laatemala's neighbor El

1191
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: Salvador or they were in commercials. Yeah, shoes fired, but

1192
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: they did very much take advantage of being in one

1193
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: of the world's beautiful and historic cities, even with the rain,

1194
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: and it was quite an accomplishment, and sometimes it was

1195
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, French and just plain weird. Yeah, but there

1196
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: were good moments, including the new idea to parade the athletes.

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00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that metal band at the castle was odd.

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00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: But there were some funny memes about where LA should

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Speaker 2: do it. You know they're gonna do it at the

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Speaker 2: La Colisseum, but probably some inappropriate comments about you know,

1201
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: skid row and things like that, but people had some

1202
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: funny comments on where they should do it.

1203
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 8: It was on local LA radio right after the Paris

1204
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 8: opening ceremony. Their conclusion was, it's not possible in LA

1205
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 8: because it's too spread out.

1206
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 4: It is, yes, yeah, and there's also no water for

1207
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 4: the river type.

1208
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1209
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 4: That's just worked.

1210
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 8: It really worked. It was kind of cool in an

1211
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 8: admittedly odd way, is what I thought. After all of

1212
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 8: this is kind of like the comedy Airplane. You remember

1213
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 8: that there was a magazine that once voted that movie

1214
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 8: best Comedy because it packs so much humor, such a

1215
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 8: variety of humor into and the article put it this way.

1216
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 8: In doing so, it guarantees to offend someone at some

1217
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 8: point in the two hours.

1218
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: Surely you can't be serious, Yeah, I am sure exactly.

1219
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 8: Yesterday in Paris offended me a few minutes out of

1220
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 8: four hours. The last hour was very good. All on

1221
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 8: the same boat. Nadia Komenich, Serena Williams, Carl Lewis, Ralfie

1222
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 8: on Nadal at the Olympic Flame. That was quite a photo.

1223
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 8: And the finale with the balloon taking off where the

1224
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 8: very first balloon ever took off from France back in

1225
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 8: the seventeen hundreds, and then the French song right after that,

1226
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 8: quite moving, full of meeting. The ending was a hit.

1227
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Speaker 8: It wasn't the only one of the day. Very long show,

1228
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 8: not all hits overall. Again, can't believe they pulled it off.

1229
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 8: As for the Sunday schedule, Yes, US men's hoops versus Serbia.

1230
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 8: Also Sunday US women's soccer versus Germany. US men swimming

1231
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 8: tonight won Olympic gold in the four by one hundred

1232
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 8: freestyle relay, beating Australia. As for late night Major League Baseball,

1233
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 8: the Giants are going for a double header sweep. In

1234
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 8: the opener against Colorado, they won four to one, and

1235
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 8: the starting pitcher, Blake Snell, had fifteen strikeouts in six innings,

1236
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 8: no decision. Giants are leading five to nothing over the Rockies.

1237
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 8: Top of the ninth. In the nightcap, Nationals lead fourteen

1238
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 8: to three at Saint Louis, bottom of the ninth. That's

1239
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 8: still going on because of a rain delay at the start.

1240
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 8: And finally, the game on Fox TV tonight was a

1241
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 8: Yankee comeback win at Boston in ten innings, eleven to eight.

1242
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 8: Aaron Judge thirty seventh homer back to.

1243
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox Sports Radio,

1244
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday Sunday. Depending on where you are, er

1245
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios.

1246
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: So college football it is inching closer. We talked a

1247
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: lot of NFL in hour one, but our two were

1248
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: switching gears to college because one we're getting closed. But

1249
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: two Big Ten Media Days was this week, and obviously

1250
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: it was the launch in the debut of the now

1251
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: eighteen team Big Big Ten, adding Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA.

1252
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: All four coaches spoke. All eighteen coaches spoke, including the

1253
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: four new ones. But what caught everyone's attention, Lincoln Riley

1254
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: had some interesting comments about the future of the Notre

1255
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: Dame rivalry. One hundred years of the making Mary play

1256
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: the sound.

1257
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: I would love to. I would love to.

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 9: I know it means you know a lot to a

1259
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 9: lot of people, and so the again, the purest in you,

1260
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 9: no doubt. Now, if you get in a position where

1261
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 9: you got to make a decision on what's best for

1262
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 9: SC to help us win a national championship versus keeping

1263
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 9: that shoot, then you got to look at it. I

1264
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 9: mean and listen, we're not the first example of that.

1265
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 9: Look all the way across the country, there's been a

1266
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 9: lot of other teams sacrifice rivalry games. I'm not saying

1267
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 9: that's what's going to happen, but you know, as we

1268
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 9: get into this playoff structure and if it changes not

1269
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 9: we get this new conference, like, we're gonna learn earn

1270
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 9: some about this as we go and what the right

1271
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 9: and the best track is, you know, the winning a

1272
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 9: national championship.

1273
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Speaker 4: The back half of that way.

1274
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: By the way, he did reference Alabama, who for a

1275
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: year scheduled that high profile, not neutral site game, then

1276
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: they'd play a couple duds, and then they'd play the

1277
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: SEC schedule. Then they'd have the FCS game right before Auburn.

1278
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: And the quote that caught a lot of people's attention,

1279
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley adding they didn't schedule for the fans.

1280
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: They scheduled to win championships.

1281
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: J Mart.

1282
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: Whether you want to go in on Lincoln Riley or

1283
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: you want to go in on the state of college football?

1284
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: What do you think of Lincoln Riley? Bab He didn't

1285
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: say that they're canceling the Notre Dame rivalry, but he

1286
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: doesn't seem eager to extend it either.

1287
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: The biggest problem is just, I mean, how many traditions

1288
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: are we going to rip down amidst all of this

1289
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: and Lincoln Riley and his long standing, incredibly deep ties

1290
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: to USC and tradition and understanding. The biggest concern that

1291
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: I have there is just like him wanting to end

1292
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 3: it like you've been there for like five minutes. This thing,

1293
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 3: he said, I know, it means a lot to a

1294
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 3: lot of people. Yeah, it really does. It means a

1295
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: lot to a lot of Notre Dame people, a lot

1296
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: of USC people, a lot of college football traditionalists. I

1297
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: don't understand, like this just seems like, are you really

1298
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: gonna die on this hill? Like this one doesn't make

1299
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: any sense to me. That's my biggest thing is just

1300
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 3: why step into this and wade into this and sound

1301
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: so like, let's just go ahead and urinate on every

1302
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: tradition that is out there, not just that we left

1303
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 3: the conference and all that kind of stuff, but we're

1304
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: actually just going to take away this rivalry that has

1305
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: been a part of college football for such a long

1306
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: time for no real apparent reason.

1307
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: So that's kind of my takeaway as well, is first

1308
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: of all, I think even if that's something, clearly the

1309
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: question was asked because there has been probably some sort

1310
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: of internal conversation that probably conversation got leaked to the media,

1311
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: and that's why the media felt the need to ask one.

1312
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: If you're Lincoln Riley, and maybe he's just completely unaware

1313
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: of what people think about him and how he's perceived.

1314
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: But this was the guy that a few months ago,

1315
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: for people don't know, by the way, USC opens against

1316
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: LSU that first Sunday Labor Day night, I'm excited about

1317
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: that one. But the reports where Lincoln Riley and the

1318
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: USC tried to get that game canceled and LSU basically

1319
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: said no way, no, how So you have that, you

1320
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: have the perception that his teams are soft, that he's soft,

1321
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: that he's afraid of the SEC. When he decided to

1322
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: leave Oklahoma. So I bring it up because even if

1323
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: those conversations are happening, I don't like, just lie. If

1324
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: I was like a rally, just lie, just just be like, listen,

1325
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, we're evaluating everything, but as of right now,

1326
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, we're focused on twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,

1327
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: excuse me, and or notre Damn's other schedu we look

1328
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: forward to continuing with the rivalry.

1329
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: Next question.

1330
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: So he did himself no favors, but Jason is crazy

1331
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: because you and I are on the same page a

1332
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: lot tonight. That was kind of my biggest takeaway too,

1333
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: is that, listen, I understand that we're moving to this

1334
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: new world. Like it or not, We're full speed ahead.

1335
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: College football is essentially the minor league of the NFL. Now,

1336
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: if it was at any point amateurism, that's dead.

1337
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: This is a minor league. It is what it is.

1338
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: But I also think, man, we're moving so far, so fast,

1339
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: and so much of what we love about college football

1340
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: I think is really kind of a jeopardy. And it's

1341
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: kind of funny because one of the other questions that

1342
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: not only Lincoln Riley got asked, but you know, Dan

1343
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: Lanning was asked about a few guys where I think

1344
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning was asked about it. Ryan Day was asked

1345
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: about it. Whatever of the idea of playing seventeen games,

1346
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: and remember those conference champions get a first round by

1347
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: in the College Football Playoff, And no coach explicitly said it,

1348
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: but there was talk of, like, you know, if you've

1349
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: clinch that spot in the conference championship, do you rest

1350
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: players in the final week of the season. Like if

1351
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: you're Ohio State and you're undefeated and you're going to

1352
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: the you know you're going to the College Football Playoff

1353
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: either way, but maybe you're a little bit banged up.

1354
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: Do you rest a few guys for Michigan in the

1355
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: final game of the season. So that's just another example,

1356
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: and it just speaks to what you said, is like

1357
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: we are getting so far away from what made college

1358
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,479
Speaker 2: sports college sports, college football, college football, and the fact

1359
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: that this is even being discussed, it's just sad, man,

1360
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: And I know nothing last forever, and I know that

1361
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: as as Lincoln Riley did say, a lot of rivalries

1362
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: and traditions have gone to the wayside, But like I'm sorry, man,

1363
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: that means a lot to a lot of people. That's

1364
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 2: a game that we have all watched. We all remember

1365
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: the Bush push, we all remember all these big moments

1366
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: in that rivalry, and it's a game that we all

1367
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: kind of circle on the calendar. It's just such a

1368
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: bummer that that's where we are and that again the

1369
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: fans are the ones who suffered Jason.

1370
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that's going to continue to be, Like,

1371
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: we're going to get some really good things out of

1372
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 3: this when it comes to an expanded playoff and more

1373
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: games at least, in my opinion, a lot more games

1374
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: that have stakes as a result, But we're also going

1375
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: to have casualties in order to get some of this good,

1376
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: we're going to get some of the bad. We are

1377
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: going to see the end of stuff. And you get

1378
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: to that spot again, we've talked about it before where

1379
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 3: Ohio State Michigan used to kind of be de facto

1380
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: in and now it's likely more often than not going

1381
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: to be a scenario where both of them are getting

1382
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: in and so it doesn't have the same deal. This

1383
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 3: isn't a conference matchup, but USC Notre Dame. I mean,

1384
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: it's when is USC playing Notre Dame not going to

1385
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 3: be a good win? For USC if they win it.

1386
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's been a while. There was a time

1387
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: when maybe it wasn't as impressive when they had some

1388
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: down years, but pretty much throughout the Brian Kelly years,

1389
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: and it looks like Freeman is going to continue that

1390
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: these are going to be good wins. Like, I know,

1391
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 3: you're in a good conference, but play the game like

1392
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: it's not going to hurt you. But I guess if

1393
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 3: you look at it, if you're in a twelve team playoff,

1394
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 3: maybe you don't need that. Maybe you don't need that anymore.

1395
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: Maybe you can make your schedule a little bit easier

1396
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: because it's easier to qualify in the first place. I

1397
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: just kind of look at all of it and just

1398
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: say I think that you talk about the speed at

1399
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 3: which everything is changing. I think there are some things

1400
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: that need to change relatively quickly because we are going

1401
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: to a new system and we have some conferences. But

1402
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: then there's some other stuff that's we don't have to

1403
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: get rid of everything today, yep, Like we can work

1404
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: towards this and see what's gonna work and what needs

1405
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 3: to change, what needs to be altered. But it just

1406
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: seems like everything is trying to happen at the exact

1407
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: same time, and I'm not sure that's the best way

1408
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 3: for this to work.

1409
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate to use like the bigger picture of metaphorical,

1410
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, societal thing, but it's kind of how society

1411
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: feels like it is like society is like, dude, we're

1412
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: moving a million miles an hour, and I don't think

1413
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 2: we fully understand the consequences of all the decisions that

1414
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: are being made by the way, not comparing you know,

1415
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: a football game to real world stuff.

1416
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 4: That's going on. But I think people hopefully know where

1417
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 4: I'm talking about Jason really quick.

1418
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears to another college football topic that certainly

1419
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: made headlines on Friday, and it was the news that

1420
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: a high profile player at Georgia has been arrested. A

1421
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: wide receiver by the name of rah Ra Thomas was

1422
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: arrested on Thursday night into Friday. He's facing multiple family

1423
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: violence charges and was being He is being held in

1424
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta or excuse me, Athens Clark County Jail he was

1425
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: previously I'll read. He was charged with cruelty to child children,

1426
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: family violence, a second degree felony, two misdemeanor counts of battery,

1427
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: family violence.

1428
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 4: Here's the crazy part.

1429
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: He had previously been arrested and accused of felony false

1430
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: imprisonment because you know, a similar situation. He was part

1431
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 2: of a pre trial diversion program and the charges were

1432
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 2: eventually dropped. I bring it up because Georgia has had

1433
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: one issue after another after another.

1434
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: After you do you have a number, like I was.

1435
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: I didn't look it up, but I was curious what

1436
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: the actual total number is.

1437
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 4: Now I don't have a number.

1438
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: What I can tell you is I believe there's been

1439
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 2: five driving related instances this offseason. And by the way,

1440
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing speeding to a you know, felony basically

1441
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: kick this offseason, just this offseason. There was a ton

1442
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: last year. Well, and that's what I was gonna say.

1443
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: A couple of things on that one. First of all,

1444
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: one player was arrested for DUI we know. I mean,

1445
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: you don't need me to tell you how serious that is.

1446
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: And I there were two players that were charged with

1447
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: reckless driving. The problem was one of them was a

1448
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: senior captain who's a four year starter. Right, And so

1449
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,839
Speaker 2: that's just this offseason. But even if you want to say, okay,

1450
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: speeding should have done it whatever. One, it's one of

1451
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: your most experienced players, a guy that should know better.

1452
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: And then two it obviously comes Jason Off. As you said,

1453
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: quite a few arrests in the twenty two three off season,

1454
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: and that doesn't include a tragic accident that took the

1455
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: life of a staffer named Chandler Lacroix and one of

1456
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: their players named Devin Willock. So you had a tragic

1457
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: accident last year, multiple speeding arrests last year, multiple speeding

1458
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: arrests this year. Now a player who had previously been

1459
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: arrested is arrested again. He has been suspended in definitely

1460
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 2: from the team. But Jaymartin, I'll tell you, man, I

1461
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 2: know all these crimes aren't the same. I'm not comparing

1462
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: speeding to what Robert Thomas was accused of. What I

1463
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: am saying is this does not feel like just normal

1464
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: kids being kids college football, and I think Kirby Smart

1465
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: needs to be held a little bit more accountable than

1466
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: he is.

1467
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: So the number is twenty four. Wow, twenty four arrests

1468
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 3: dating back to the start of last offseason. This is

1469
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: the last couple of years they're working on it and

1470
01:11:54,160 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: getting into me. Yeah, look, you remember the number, like

1471
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: how Florida was talked about. Of course, I think the

1472
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 3: difference is people kind of like Kirby Smart.

1473
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 4: That's thank you, That's really it.

1474
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 3: Because if this was.

1475
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: Give me a prime example, don't like Mancoln Riley Deon Sanders.

1476
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: Imagine if this was deonce and I'm not trying.

1477
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 3: To we would be getting absolutely hammered from every corner everywhere.

1478
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: But for some reason, Kirby Smart has this I don't

1479
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: know what it is, this approachability factor, this likability factor,

1480
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 3: and he conducts himself very well and as such, like

1481
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 3: we don't talk about this anywhere near as much as

1482
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: we should, like this is this is a cultural this

1483
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 3: is cultural rot that's kind of happening at Georgia right now.

1484
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: And it's not it's not something that can't be fixed.

1485
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: But the question needs to be asked and is not

1486
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 3: being asked, like what's the price of victory? Like at

1487
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 3: what point are your guys gonna be held accountable for

1488
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: things like this? Because yes, you mentioned again this is

1489
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 3: a much more serious incident than most of the others.

1490
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 3: But the conduct issues don't seem to be going away,

1491
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: do they. And I'm not even saying they're escalating because

1492
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's I don't think there's a

1493
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 3: through line between what was happening and then this incident.

1494
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: For example, there's just too much stuff happening that doesn't

1495
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 3: need to be happening. And eventually, if you're in a

1496
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,440
Speaker 3: position of authority, you actually you have to take accountability

1497
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 3: for that. You actually have to step up and hold

1498
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 3: people accountable, and you actually have to stand up and say, yep,

1499
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: it's my responsibility. This guy's not gonna play. I don't

1500
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: think that's gonna happen because Georgia wins too many football games,

1501
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,799
Speaker 3: and that is a pretty sad statement.

1502
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll just I'll wrap this pretty quick because

1503
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: we gotta get back to Seger. But so I agree

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: with everything you said because the Kirby defenders, and I'll

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01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: give Georgia fans credit, the last couple instances I have

1506
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: seen even Georgia fans say something has to change, but

1507
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: the Kirby defenders will say he's done everything. Well, he

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: hasn't done everything, because as best as I can tell,

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anybody miss playing time or significant playing time.

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01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not the just throw everybody off the team.

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01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: You know, Nick Saban has that famous quote about you know,

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01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: giving kids second shanit whatever.

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I get it.

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01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you want to send a

1515
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: message whoever it is now this kid Rajah Thomas, I

1516
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: can't imagine second arrest that he ever plays again. Who knows,

1517
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: We'll see whatever and definitely suspended. The reports don't look good.

1518
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: But you want to send a message to your team,

1519
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: like I said, you have you have a fourth year senior,

1520
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: fourth year starter that got arrested for something that is

1521
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: completely avoidable that everybody should know better at this point

1522
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: because one of his own teammates literally died doing this.

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01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 4: And so I don't know what number is.

1524
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: But if you want to make a point, take away

1525
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: what is most important, which is playing time on the field.

1526
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: Don't tell me about how many laps they run after practice.

1527
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart did say a media days that the players

1528
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: now get fined through the collective. Only thing that did

1529
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: take away playing time to say you're spending suspended X

1530
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 2: number of games and don't make it one, don't make

1531
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: it a half, make it an actual punishment, so.

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 4: That maybe some of these players will actually pay attention.

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Eron Torris Jasamart broadcasting live from the

1534
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: tyreck dot com studios. Will come back to Sager is

1535
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: gonna get you caught up on everything that you missed

1536
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: across the world of sports.

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01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, jasmartin broadcasting

1539
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot com studios. As we do

1540
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: every week around this time, let's toss it over the

1541
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: news desk to Sager, give us your extended update.

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 4: My friend, I love that.

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 8: Peyton Manning on the opening ceremonies broadcast made reference you know,

1544
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 8: we've got an Olympic scandal here, another spygate. Oh, because

1545
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 8: that is what it is. Canada's women's team, the defending

1546
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 8: gold medallist in soccer, has been docked points, sending him

1547
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 8: to last place in the standings for this tournament that

1548
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 8: has started Sunday. It's Canada against France. But the head

1549
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 8: coach of Canada women's soccer, Bev Priestman, was suspended for

1550
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 8: a year for using drones to spy on opponents in

1551
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 8: recent years, including on Monday when their worker got caught

1552
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 8: by French police and it turned out they had spied

1553
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 8: on that New Zealand practice. They're opening the opponent the

1554
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 8: week before in France as well, But according to The

1555
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 8: Globe and Mail, Canada's national paper, police retrieved footage of

1556
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 8: the training session of New Zealand from the drone and

1557
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 8: also got text messages from that worker and an assistant

1558
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 8: coach with Canada, and that kind of opened things up.

1559
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 8: Staff and contractors connected to the men's Canadian national team

1560
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 8: have also filmed closed practices of competitors. According to TSN,

1561
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 8: they used a drone to rector or at a US

1562
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 8: practice in Florida five years ago. For example. A couple

1563
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 8: years later, Honduras had to stop a training session in

1564
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 8: Toronto because someone spotted a drone overhead. Some staff and contractors,

1565
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 8: according to TSN in Canada, were told filming's part of

1566
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 8: your job. You could lose your position with the soccer

1567
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 8: federation if you don't go along with these demands, and

1568
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 8: one source said, in a couple of scenarios, people have

1569
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 8: been pushed. They've been told, hey, you got to give

1570
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 8: one ten percent. This is part of your job. They

1571
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 8: became sources for this investigative reporting this week, asking for

1572
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 8: anonymity because they were afraid the Federation would retaliate against them.

1573
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 8: One of the sources said, among those many instances of

1574
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 8: spying on your opponent was spying on Japan, their opening

1575
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 8: opponent at the Tokyo Olympics in twenty twenty one. And

1576
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 8: remember that was during COVID lockdowns where you couldn't go

1577
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 8: into the city. They said, the source was a little

1578
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 8: tricky for us at that time. There were more restricts,

1579
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 8: but there were still ways to sneak out of the

1580
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 8: hotel without people knowing. And as far as the actual

1581
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 8: practice facilities, they were a bit more open over there

1582
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 8: in some cases, so you could get behind some bushes

1583
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 8: or behind fences or behind trees. That part wasn't complicated

1584
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 8: because they didn't have these big mesh walls around the practice.

1585
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 8: But a couple of years after the Tokyo Olympics, a

1586
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 8: Canada Soccer contractor was scheduled to travel to Australia for

1587
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 8: last year's Women's World Cup and was told their responsibilities

1588
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 8: would include trying to secretly record the training sessions of

1589
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 8: opposing teams, and when the contractor said no, I don't

1590
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 8: agree to that, their trip was canceled and Canada Soccer

1591
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 8: at a staff member fly in their place and do

1592
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 8: the recording. And so they've reviewed text messages tsn UP

1593
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 8: in Canada and they have correspondence of a women's coach

1594
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 8: discussing secret filming of opponents training sessions head of games

1595
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 8: two years ago against Costa Rica, against Trinidad, against Korea.

1596
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 8: Keep in mind that the twenty twenty one Olympics, the

1597
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 8: semi final was Canada upsetting the US, and then Canada

1598
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 8: won the gold medal for the first time right after that.

1599
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 8: Both sources in the investigative reporting said there's a lot

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01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 8: to be learned from filming an opponent's practice.

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: Quote.

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 8: You get to know their formations, their starting lineup, look

1603
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 8: at who's taking a penalty kick, there's set pieces. Most

1604
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 8: people see this as cheating, which it is. Some of

1605
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 8: our coaches just see it as a competitive advantage and

1606
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 8: justify it by saying everyone does it, which is also

1607
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 8: not true. Not everyone cheats, and neither should we end quote.

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01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 8: US women's soccer is going to be on the pitch

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01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 8: against Germany on Sunday. Each team won its opener in

1610
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 8: the tournament three. I think Sophia Smith of the US

1611
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,839
Speaker 8: left in the first half Thursday with an apparent ankle injury. Meanwhile,

1612
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 8: for US men's basketball, remember Kevin Durant missed all five exhibitions,

1613
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 8: the US went five to zero. For what it's worth,

1614
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 8: he did finally practice with Team USA about a week ago.

1615
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 8: He'd been out for about two weeks with a strained calf,

1616
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 8: so we'll see if and when he plays. The US

1617
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 8: in their last exhibition Monday in London, won a close

1618
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 8: one against Germany ninety two to eighty eight as Lebron

1619
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 8: James scored the last eleven points for Team USA. And

1620
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 8: remember before that was the narrow win against South Sudan

1621
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 8: where Lebron had the driving layup the game winner with

1622
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 8: eight seconds left. So Olympics jess getting started US men's

1623
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 8: basketball and women's soccer tomorrow.

1624
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve di Seger. Appreciate all of

1625
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: your help. This is Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors Jason

1626
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Tyrack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 4: Two hours are in the book.

1628
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: We got one hour left and there is quite a

1629
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 2: bit to discuss. We'll revisit a busy Friday in the

1630
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: NFL with those two major contracts sign and what's next

1631
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 2: for Dak Prescott also we got to talk about a

1632
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 2: crazy week in the media world, tnt SO in the NBA,

1633
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: so much to discuss.

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Speaker 4: What hour left?

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Speaker 2: We are taking up till two am Eastern, one hour more,

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Speaker 2: follow us. No, Bernie will have plenty on a busy

1646
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: weekend in sports, a busy week in the NFL, college

1647
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: football's coming up, and of course the Olympics are underway

1648
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: as well. Jmart Let's get back to probably the lead

1649
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: stories of the week. Listen, you know it's that time there,

1650
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: you know every time around this year there's always some

1651
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 2: sort of contract disputes. Let me ask you this really quick,

1652
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: Am I crazy or does it feel like more? And

1653
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: let me set the tone here. We obviously saw two

1654
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: on Jordan Love get extended on Friday, but dak is

1655
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: looking for a new deal, Ceedee Lamb is looking for

1656
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: a new deal. Brandon Ayyuk has put in a trade request.

1657
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: Obviously we discussed that last week. Trent Williams is currently

1658
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 2: holding out. Am I crazy or does it feel like

1659
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: more guys than usual this year?

1660
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 3: It does? You know, now that you say it, It

1661
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 3: does seem like there have been more names in the

1662
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 3: news that have been talking points surrounding contract disputes or

1663
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: potential holdouts or just dissatisfaction or trade requests or all that.

1664
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean. I think that it's I don't know, like

1665
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 3: I'd like to know exactly what it has been in

1666
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: years past, but it does seem a little accelerated, and

1667
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 3: I think that this might be a monkey see monkey

1668
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: do so situation where if you watch it long enough

1669
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 3: happening around you, you see all these other guys getting

1670
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: paid You want to do the same thing, and if

1671
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 3: it's working for them, then you're going to see more

1672
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 3: and more of it. You're still not in a position

1673
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: of the way you are in the NBA where guys are

1674
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: commanding everything, but the NFL is trying to do as

1675
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 3: much as they can. Seems like the players are trying

1676
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 3: to exert as much power under a bad CBA and

1677
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 3: a bad union deal as they can. And if it

1678
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 3: works at your position for somebody else, then why wouldn't

1679
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: you try it?

1680
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,839
Speaker 4: In most cases, yeah, I think everybody's a little bit different.

1681
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1682
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: Obviously, you look at somebody like Trent Williams, he's obviously

1683
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: older looking for you know, probably that final big paycheck,

1684
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: and he's still one of the best players in the league.

1685
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: You know, Tua was coming up at the end of

1686
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: his rookie deal. Jordan Love obviously was is entering your

1687
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: five as well. Let's get into those two. We talked

1688
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 2: about it earlier. But Tua gets that four year, two

1689
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve million dollar deal fifty five million a year,

1690
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: eighth most guaranteed money of all time one hundred and

1691
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: sixty seven million. Jordan Love, on the other hand, four

1692
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: year deal two hundred and twenty million for a crisp

1693
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: even fifty five million a year. That is the most money,

1694
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: tied with the most money in terms of annual salary

1695
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: in the NFL, along with Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow.

1696
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: Let me just ask you, let me ask you to

1697
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: you like this, which team, if either, do you think

1698
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 2: is more likely to end up regretting the deal that

1699
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: they gave out.

1700
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 3: H I think it's Miami because I think we know

1701
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 3: what Tua is. I think Tua is good but not great,

1702
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: and there are more risks there. Now you've seen him

1703
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 3: play more football, but you've also seen the injuries. You

1704
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: know the size already, and you just kind of look

1705
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 3: at that team, and you look at the AFC as

1706
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 3: a whole, and you look even at that division. It's

1707
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 3: a bear and it's not going to get easier, and

1708
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 3: you're still waiting for TWA to be clutch in a

1709
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 3: big moment. Now, that same critique can be applied to

1710
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: a number of guys that we really like in the

1711
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: NFL at the quarterback spot. But I think that it's

1712
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 3: I think it's more likely that Green Bay doesn't risk

1713
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: it because I think there's still there's still something left

1714
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 3: to prove. But you couldn't have asked for too much

1715
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 3: more from Jordan Love than he gave you in year one.

1716
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: And you call it year one, but it's really year FOURD.

1717
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: I think that again, and I mentioned this earlier. The

1718
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 3: lasting takeaway from the Jordan Love scenario is these teams

1719
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 3: just can't afford to draft rookies and not put them

1720
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah. Really, quiz, you don't get the discount,

1721
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 3: You don't get the opportunity to build around a guy

1722
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: for the first few years because you just had to

1723
01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: commit so much money to him after one year of work.

1724
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's reset that.

1725
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: I thought that was a very good point by you

1726
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, and for anybody who missed it,

1727
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: make sure to go back and download the podcast. But

1728
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: essentially what you said is this is that that Jordan

1729
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Love is obviously a very unique situation. He's a guy

1730
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: that was drafted to replace Aaron Rodgers. We all know that,

1731
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: and I think everybody in that Packers front office kind

1732
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: of miscalculated probably how much Aaron Rodgers had left in

1733
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: the tank. So all of a sudden he went back

1734
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: to back MVPs. You're not going to get rid of

1735
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: him that final year. He obviously got hurt, but he

1736
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: didn't play very well. But Jordan Love a unique situation

1737
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: where he didn't play significant snaps. He started one game

1738
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 2: in his first three years, and as referenced the only

1739
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: game that he started was the game that Aaron Rodgers

1740
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: tested positive for COVID during that COVID season. And by

1741
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 2: the way, I forgot the word in hour one, but

1742
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: it was immunized, was the word that he used to

1743
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: describe his vaccination status in the preseason.

1744
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 4: We don't have to relitigate that.

1745
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: I don't really care whatever, but I bring it up

1746
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: because that was the only that Jordan Love made in

1747
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: his first three years. So Aaron Rodgers leaves prior to

1748
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: last year. He's obviously with the New York Jets. I

1749
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: thought you brought up a great point is that on

1750
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 2: the one hand, Jordan Love got plenty of practice reps,

1751
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: and certainly in the back half of the year, he

1752
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 2: looked very comfortable, and he not only looked like a

1753
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 2: very capable NFL starting quarterback, he looked like a guy

1754
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: with a chance to be elite down the stretch. But

1755
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: I or in the future, excuse me. I also thought

1756
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: it was a great point though, that when you wait

1757
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: four years to start a guy, if he delivers, then

1758
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: you gotta pay him. And so the Packers, I don't

1759
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: really think it's through fault of their own. Aaron Rodgers

1760
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: just outplayed expectations during the twenty twenty and twenty twenty

1761
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: one seasons. But at the same time it put the

1762
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: Packers in a situation where you're basically going off a

1763
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: half a year of good games and you gotta pay

1764
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, you know, you know, top top, top tier money.

1765
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: I think the opposite is true as well, where if

1766
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: he hadn't played well, you might have to move off

1767
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: him a little bit quicker, or might be thinking about

1768
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: moving him off a little bit quicker when maybe he's

1769
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit better than you think. So I

1770
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 2: thought that was a great point by you, essentially basically

1771
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: saying like, look, you know, it was a unique circumstance,

1772
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: but basically by doing this, you're basically having to pay him,

1773
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, like Joe Burrows the started for four years

1774
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: and is getting the same amount of money as opposed

1775
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: to Jordan Love, who basically had one good half of

1776
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: a season last year.

1777
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, ideally, what you want is what happened

1778
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: with the Bengals when you didn't have to pay Jamar

1779
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 3: Chase yet, you didn't have to pay Boyd yet, you

1780
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 3: didn't have to pay Higgins Jet, you didn't have to

1781
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: pay Burrow yet and you end up in the super Bowl,

1782
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 3: Like that's the ideal scenario. You actually saw both sides,

1783
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 3: because you saw the Rams that had broken the bank

1784
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 3: and given up their future and given up all these

1785
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: draft picks, and they came in and they cashed it

1786
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 3: in barely because of that great drive with Stafford and

1787
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Cooper cup Or. We have a different discussion, but the

1788
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,480
Speaker 3: Bengals that that's what you want if you're the Chargers

1789
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 3: with Justin Herbert for years, which is why I thought

1790
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,799
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have wagered and blown a year with Brandon Staley,

1791
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 3: Like that's why you get rid of him last year

1792
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 3: because you just squandered it again. Basically, you have a

1793
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: buffer zone with a rookie quarterback where you really do

1794
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 3: have a lot more just room to maneuver, and it

1795
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 3: gets taken away. So, yes, I don't know what Jordan

1796
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Love is if he doesn't sit for a few years,

1797
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how much better he got. We're never

1798
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 3: going to know. But what we do know, without without

1799
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 3: a shadow of a doubt, is that he played for

1800
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 3: one year and you just gave him two hundred million

1801
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 3: dollars guaranteed. That is insanity, and maybe it's I'm not

1802
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: saying I'm not saying that it doesn't pay off, but

1803
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 3: boyd you you had to pay out real quick on

1804
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: that thing, and now it may hamstring you somewhere else

1805
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 3: Whereas if you'd been able to pay him, or if

1806
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 3: you've been able to play him two years ago, we

1807
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 3: would have known a lot more. And maybe you end

1808
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 3: up saving yourself the money because you could still get

1809
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 3: out from underneath it. Because the other problem with the

1810
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 3: guarantee thing is that's over one hundred million dollars dead

1811
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 3: cap hit if you let him go, like, you can't

1812
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 3: just get rid of him. If let's say last year's

1813
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,919
Speaker 3: a fluke, he comes out, he's bad. This year, you're screwed.

1814
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 3: It's not as easy as it looks.

1815
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: No doubt, And I think it's worth noting something I

1816
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: referenced earlier is that everybody says, I mean, he was

1817
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 2: unbelievable that second half of the year, and like, statistically

1818
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: he was eighteen touchdowns one interception in the last eight

1819
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 2: games of the year.

1820
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 4: Okay, cool.

1821
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: The thing that's a little bit deceptive though, really probably

1822
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: his three best games, and it's to his credit because

1823
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: they were all against Marque opponents. They all came in

1824
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: standalone games where everybody was watching. He had the big

1825
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 2: win on Thanksgiving against the Detroit Lions, follows that up

1826
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 2: the following Sunday with a home win Sunday night football

1827
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: against the pack against for the Packers against the Chiefs

1828
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: where everybody's watching, and then of course that win in

1829
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: the playoffs against Dallas, where he was obviously phenomenal. But

1830
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: what people forget in that back half of the year

1831
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 2: where he was unbelievable. He also did have a loss

1832
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 2: to the New York Giants, he had a home loss

1833
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 2: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He had a narrow home

1834
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: win over Chicago in Week seventeen, And so it's not

1835
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: saying he was bad in those games, but we kind

1836
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: of saw him at his best in his standalone games.

1837
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 2: And I think it's kind of creating just a lot

1838
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: of hype going into this year.

1839
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 4: Let me just ask you really quick.

1840
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I know that it goes without saying,

1841
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 2: we know what all of the conversational points going into

1842
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 2: the season are, but it is interesting, you know, Detroit

1843
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 2: is in kind of that kind of make or break

1844
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 2: mode where again you now have paid Jared Goff. You

1845
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 2: got a lot of young guys that are still on

1846
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: rookie contracts for basically another year, maybe two, you know,

1847
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Penay Sewell, Amon Ross, Saint Brown. Their contracts kick in

1848
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 2: here in a year or so. They've already signed extensions

1849
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 2: and so the Lions are certainly in win now mode.

1850
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 2: The Bears, we certainly believe will be improved with Caleb

1851
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Williams along with all the offensive talent that they've brought in.

1852
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 2: So what do you expect from the Green Bay Packers

1853
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: given that, I think the division, even though the Vikings

1854
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 2: may take a half a step back, it is tough.

1855
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: And obviously now you're not the kind of team that's

1856
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: catching everybody by surprise. We know who you are. You

1857
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 2: made the playoffs last year. Admittedly it was as a wildcard,

1858
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 2: but you made the playoffs. Everybody knows you are. And

1859
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 2: now there's that target square on the back of Jordan Love.

1860
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that part is important here. You're

1861
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: not sneaking up on people anymore. They're taking you seriously.

1862
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 3: They're going to be watching film to try and exploit

1863
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 3: whatever it is that you do wrong. But look, you

1864
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: have a coach that's now one with somebody not named

1865
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. You have young receivers that really were coming

1866
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 3: into their own and seem to have good chemistry with

1867
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 3: your quarterback. You had a couple of guys that used

1868
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 3: to be all pros that had been hurt for you

1869
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 3: forever or just didn't seem to want to play, and

1870
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 3: you seem to move on from that, your running back

1871
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 3: situation changing. We're gonna have to see how that affects you.

1872
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 3: But I do think they're gonna be good. I think

1873
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 3: it's a good division, really good division. You mentioned Minnesota.

1874
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 3: They're just unsettled at quarterback, and we're gonna have to

1875
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 3: see what that actually shakes out. Like. There's gonna be

1876
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: some rookie pains for the Bears. I'm not expecting them

1877
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 3: to go win double digit games in year one, but

1878
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 3: I guess they could. I don't see the Lions taking

1879
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 3: a massive step back. So I think I think they're

1880
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,839
Speaker 3: one of your two teams to watch in that division,

1881
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 3: just pretty much like they were last year, with an

1882
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 3: improved Bears team and maybe maybe a middle of the

1883
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,520
Speaker 3: road Vikings team.

1884
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 2: It is an interesting thought. The Green Bay Packers, of course,

1885
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: now have extended Jordan Love and the pressure is on

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01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: longer to be broadcast on TNT. So they've had a

1927
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 2: relationship for thirty plus years, and I know by now

1928
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 2: everybody knows the story. But NBA basically had a chance

1929
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: to renew with them. TNT had the opportunity. Amazon puts

1930
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: in a bid, TNT has the opportunity to match, and

1931
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 2: TNT waits till last second, but they do match. The

1932
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: NBA claims that it's not enough and they are going

1933
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: to go with Amazon. TNT beverspoted by saying we'll see

1934
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 2: you in court because we plan on keeping the NBA.

1935
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 2: With that said, it seems like at best it's going

1936
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 2: to be illegal battle, but realistically probably the end of

1937
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: the inside the NBA era on TNT and with it.

1938
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley actually put out a statement yesterday about the decision.

1939
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 2: He said, clearly, the NBA has wanted to break us

1940
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 2: up from the break up with us from the beginning.

1941
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure TNT ever had a chance. TNT matched

1942
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: the money, but the league knows Amazon and these tech

1943
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: companies are the only ones willing to pay for the

1944
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 2: rights when they double in the future. The NBA didn't

1945
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 2: want to piss them off. It's a sad day when

1946
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 2: owners and commissioners choose money over fans. It just sucks.

1947
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: I just want to thank everyone who has been at

1948
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Turner for the last twenty four years. They are the

1949
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 2: best people and the most talented, and they deserve better.

1950
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 2: I also want to thank the NBA and its fans,

1951
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 2: the best fans in sports. We're going to give you

1952
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: everything we have next season. So Jason, obviously a lot

1953
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 2: to peel back, But you know your perspective on what

1954
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: was a busy week in the world of sports, broadcasting

1955
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 2: and media.

1956
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, it's no good if you're a fan of the

1957
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 3: NBA or just good television in general, because TNT is

1958
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 3: top notch. The studio show has been the gold standard forever.

1959
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 3: We've all talked about this, We've all known this for

1960
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 3: a long long time. It's more entertaining than the games themselves.

1961
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 3: More often than not, it's can't miss. It's on my DVR.

1962
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 3: It has been for well over I don't know, since

1963
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 3: DVRs are invented pretty early after that, I was making

1964
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 3: sure I was getting it weekly. Even if I can

1965
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 3: watch it live, I would watch it the next day.

1966
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 3: And TNT seems, or just Turner in general, seems synonymous

1967
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 3: with the NBA, dating back to the Atlanta Hawks, but

1968
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 3: also just NBA covers on TBS that then became TNT,

1969
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 3: and just the idea of Ernie Johnson's voice not being

1970
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 3: part of leading you into or out of an NBA

1971
01:38:55,240 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 3: night is just unthinkable to me. Now, the one name

1972
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 3: that doesn't get talked about enough. So we've talked about

1973
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 3: what Barkley has had to say, and we've talked about

1974
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 3: the contract, and we're suing you and all of these things.

1975
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 3: One thing that's funny to me is that David zaz

1976
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: laugh And I'm gonna mention his name because he's doing

1977
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 3: everything he can, it seems like, to kill off his

1978
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 3: entire company, selling it off, making horrible decisions in a

1979
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 3: myriad of different media ways, not just with TNC, but

1980
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 3: with his gaming industry is a complete dumpster fire, an

1981
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: absolute disaster. They released a game back in January that

1982
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 3: lost them two hundred million dollars. Wow, So I mean

1983
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 3: they are just dropping money, this is like a video game. Yes,

1984
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 3: they're making horrible decisions, and it seems like they're almost

1985
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 3: doing it intentionally, like he's trying to bankrupt the company,

1986
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 3: to sell it off or something. But David zaz laugh.

1987
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 3: According to a couple of things that I read actually

1988
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 3: went to the table and went to Netflix or went

1989
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 3: to Amazon. Rather, Hey, get involved in this that way

1990
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 3: that we can kind of move some of our burden

1991
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 3: onto you, shoulder some of it off, and you can

1992
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 3: become a new partner. And it turns out they're going

1993
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 3: to be the new partner and you're out entirely. I

1994
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 3: don't know what happens with the lawsuit, but I'm pretty

1995
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 3: sure I know how it end. I don't know all

1996
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 3: the intricacies of it and where there's validity and where

1997
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 3: there's not. I do know that David Zaslav is a

1998
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: terrible CEO, that Max has been really really underperforming as

1999
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 3: a streaming service for a while. That's why they're changing

2000
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 3: things up and now doing a bundle subscription with a

2001
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 3: couple of things that I have nothing to do with

2002
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 3: their company, to ad free and ad plans and all

2003
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 3: this that we're seeing across streaming things haven't been quite

2004
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 3: as good as expected. And then you look at Turner Networks,

2005
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 3: you lose the braves. You've got National Baseball, but I

2006
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 3: don't think it's the same, and I actually don't think

2007
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 3: that it's helped the ratings. I'd have to look at

2008
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 3: it to see the NHL was not a gamble that

2009
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 3: is paid off. They've just it's made a lot of

2010
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 3: really bad decisions, and then they come to this and

2011
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 3: they think that they're just going to get grandfathered in.

2012
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 3: That's just not how it's gonna work. You're now going

2013
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 3: to pay big time money because once you involve somebody

2014
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 3: like Amazon, they don't have a bottom to their pockets.

2015
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 3: They can give whatever, they can always outbid you if

2016
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 3: they had to, and it just it seems like this

2017
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 3: was inevitable because the leadership of WBD is just a

2018
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 3: dumpster fire.

2019
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 4: I tell you what, there's a lot to react to there.

2020
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 2: I want to go ahead and do that in just

2021
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: one moment, but I'll tell you what before we get

2022
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 2: to the back half of this conversation, final time, this evening,

2023
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 2: let's go ahead toss it over the news desk to saga.

2024
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 4: The floor is yours, my friend.

2025
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 8: Coming up Sunday, US men's basketball starts It's Olympic Tournament

2026
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 8: facing Serbia. Canada men's basketball today defeated Greece eighty six

2027
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 8: seventy nine despite thirty four points from Janisan Tenakumpo. He

2028
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 8: was eleven of seventeen shooting from the floor. The rest

2029
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 8: of his team was twelve of forty two. Canada won

2030
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 8: at RJ Barrett twenty three points, Shay Gilgis Alexander twenty

2031
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 8: one point, seven assists. Host France beat Brazil seventy eight

2032
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 8: sixty six, victor Wembin Yama nineteen points. He also had

2033
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 8: nine rebounds, four steals, three blocks. Teammate Nicholas Batoum nineteen points.

2034
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 8: Australia won its opener over Spain ninety two to eighty,

2035
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 8: Patty Mills nineteen points, Josh Giddy was seventeen, and Germany

2036
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 8: dominated Japan ninety seven seventy seven. Dennis Shrud twelve assists,

2037
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 8: won turnover Franz Wagner twenty two points in the win.

2038
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 8: Rui Hachimura for Japan in the loss twenty points, but

2039
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 8: he was four of nineteen shooting. The women's basketball Olympic

2040
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,879
Speaker 8: Tournament starts for the US on Monday against Japan. Canada's

2041
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 8: women's soccer coach Bev Priestman was suspended for a year

2042
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 8: for using drones to spy on opponent practices in recent years,

2043
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 8: including twice this past week in France. Sunday, US women's

2044
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 8: soccer faces Germany. US men's soccer won four to one

2045
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 8: over New Zealand. Ukraine scored in the ninety eight minute,

2046
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 8: and it shorthanded to win to one over Morocco. The

2047
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 8: US tennis team of Coco Golf and Jessica Bagula won

2048
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 8: a first round match today, as did Spain's men's doubles

2049
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 8: team Rafael Nadal and Carlos Alcarez. Alcarez won his singles

2050
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 8: match easily and Nadal is scheduled for a singles match

2051
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 8: on Sunday. Naomi Osaka lost her first rounder in singles

2052
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 8: to Angelie Kerber, also a former number one. Katie Ladeki

2053
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 8: won bronze in the four hundred meter freestyle. She'll be

2054
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 8: swimming in the fifteen hundred meters on Tuesday for the US.

2055
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 8: The USA men's swimming team won Olympic gold tonight in

2056
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 8: the four by one hundred freestyle relay, beating Australia. So

2057
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 8: Caleb Tressol now has eight career gold medals. US women's

2058
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 8: water polo won its opener against Greece fifteen to six.

2059
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 8: US men's volleyball took its opener sweeping Argentina. In Major

2060
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 8: League Baseball. The Padres won their seventh in a row,

2061
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 8: nine to four at Baltimore. Atlanta ended a six game

2062
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 8: losing streak with a four to nothing win at the

2063
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 8: Mets Braves at three solo homers Marcelo Zuna with his thirtieth.

2064
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 8: The Dodger Shoeo'tani hit his thirty second, but La blew

2065
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 8: a five to nothing lead and lost at Houston seven

2066
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 8: to six, game winning solo homer bottom of the ninth

2067
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 8: from Alex Bregman. La first baseman Freddie Freeman is out

2068
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 8: this weekend due to a family matter. Seattle sent the

2069
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 8: White Sox to a thirteenth straight loss, six to three.

2070
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 8: The Yankees came back for a ten inning win at

2071
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 8: Boston eleven to eight. Aaron Judge with his thirty seventh homer.

2072
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 8: Kenley Jansen of the Red Sox blew the save in

2073
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 8: the top of the ninth. Washington had the late game

2074
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 8: at Saint Louis. There was a rain delay at the

2075
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 8: start fourteen to three Nationals. The final. San Francisco swept

2076
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 8: a doubleheader from Colorado. In the opener, blake'snew the starting pitcher,

2077
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 8: didn't get a decision, but he struck out fifteen in

2078
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 8: six innings of work. In fact, to get over eighty

2079
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 8: percent of your outs via strikeout. That is the highest

2080
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 8: percentage by any pitcher in any game in the history

2081
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 8: of Major League Baseball minimum six innings. Pitched back to you.

2082
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Steve de Sager, have a great evening.

2083
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 2: Saga will be back tomorrow with Mark Willard and the

2084
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Gang and Ernie Spaniard and Chris playing Fox Sports Radio

2085
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 2: erra Towards Jason Martin. We are taking you up till

2086
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 2: two a m. Eastern time. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie

2087
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: Fratto Show follows us. So before we got to to Sager,

2088
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 2: we were talking about the decision from the NBA to

2089
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 2: go with Amazon as opposed to TNT claims that they

2090
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 2: matched Amazon's offer. Obviously, the framework said that basically if

2091
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 2: TNT matched, they would obviously be able to keep their

2092
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: TV package. It looks like the NBA disagrees. Before we

2093
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 2: got to Sager, Jason mentioned David Saslov, who runs Warner

2094
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 2: Brothers and all the things that he's done. Jason, one

2095
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 2: thing you didn't mention, which I think is worth noting.

2096
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 2: This was the guy that when these negotiations really started

2097
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: to ramp up. Whatever it was eighteen months ago, a

2098
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 2: year ago, whatever it was. He said, quote, we don't

2099
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 2: have to have the NBA.

2100
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, that's like I've said, Like, you're right. I

2101
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 3: didn't mention it, but just added to the list. Remember,

2102
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 3: I told you, if I didn't know better, I'd think

2103
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 3: he was trying to bankrupt the company. That's another kind

2104
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 3: of thing. They'll end up bankrupting the company saying something

2105
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 3: like that and offending a partner of yours for over

2106
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 3: three decades.

2107
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was from November twenty twenty two, so when

2108
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 2: the negotiations were first beginning. But no, I mean, it's

2109
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 2: just it's such a disaster. And listen, I think all

2110
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 2: of it can be true. I think Turner misplayed their hand.

2111
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't think Zaslov based on a lot of stuff

2112
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,719
Speaker 2: that I didn't even know, uh really knows what he's doing.

2113
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 2: And certainly, listen, I think even if I think maybe

2114
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 2: in November twenty twenty two, maybe he thought he had

2115
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more leverage than he did, but you

2116
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,520
Speaker 2: don't say that in public during even at the beginning.

2117
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 4: Stages of the negotiation.

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Speaker 2: I also do think that it's pretty clear that the

2119
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 2: NBA obviously wants to partner with tech companies for the

2120
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 2: reason that Charles Barkley mentioned, which is that they basically

2121
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 2: have unlimited money. And it's not really about this kind.

2122
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: It's about whatever the next one is and being able

2123
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 2: to make sure that hey, you know, the next one

2124
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 2: is the one where the the you know, Turners and

2125
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe an NBC, maybe a Disney aren't going

2126
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:12,839
Speaker 2: to be able.

2127
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 4: To match really quickly.

2128
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,720
Speaker 2: What did you think of Charles Barkley basically saying like,

2129
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 2: after this this is separate than the actual, you know,

2130
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 2: the statement that he put out. He did an interview

2131
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: and he basically said, yeah, I've had conversations with all

2132
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: of the major media outlets. I mean, I think it

2133
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 2: speaks to something that you and I discussed a few

2134
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: weeks ago. He was on Turner I guess it would

2135
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 2: have been during the Western Conference finals and said during

2136
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Speaker 2: a b or you know, obviously in inside the NBA

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Speaker 2: he said something to the effect of next year will

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Speaker 2: be my last year broadcasting basketball. I don't think either

2139
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 2: of you, either of us, really brought too much into it,

2140
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 2: but it sounds like Charles Barkley has at minimum had

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01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 2: a couple of conversations with the soon to be partners

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Speaker 2: of the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I think that he may have been sincere when he

2144
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 3: said it. I also didn't think it was going to

2145
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 3: mean anything, and it doesn't appear to I don't make

2146
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 3: anything of it other than he's going to continue to

2147
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 3: work because he's very sought after and he's proven. He's

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01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 3: actually proven. Even though I think the unit is what

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01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 3: really makes it work. I think that Ernie is key.

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01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 3: I think Ernie is a really just critical part of

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01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 3: just making sure all the other personalities fit together in

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01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,600
Speaker 3: that room. But I also think Kenny and Charles have

2153
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 3: been together for such a long time and I would

2154
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 3: hate to kind of see that breakup. You added shack

2155
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 3: to it, but you really didn't even have to do that,

2156
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 3: because it was fine when it was just the three

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01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 3: of them. Barkley by himself. We've seen Barkley do the golf,

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01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 3: We've seen him do. I think he stepped in and

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01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 3: done NHL some. I mean, he's just a good personality generally.

2160
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:01,560
Speaker 3: But the show is what's like true gold. And you

2161
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 3: look at Amazon and we talked to it, and you

2162
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 3: mentioned there's no end to the money. Here's the reason why.

2163
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 3: I imagine most people probably have figured this out by now,

2164
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 3: but I think I've talked about it as related to

2165
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 3: Netflix making the big deal for WWE to put on raw.

2166
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 3: With all the streaming services, you have to make your

2167
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 3: standout from the pack. And it can't just be I've

2168
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 3: got stranger Things, because that's gonna get somebody's money for

2169
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 3: all of about a month and that's it. And we

2170
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 3: are not living in a society anymore where people are

2171
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 3: going to carry all these streaming services in their home

2172
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 3: all the time. You're gonna pick it. You're gonna get

2173
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 3: max in the fall, when the Penguin starts, or when

2174
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 3: House of the Dragon is back, then you're gonna get

2175
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 3: rid of that, and you're gonna get paramount when they

2176
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,839
Speaker 3: have something, or you're gonna have Hulu. When only Murders

2177
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 3: in the Building is back and the Bear is doing

2178
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,879
Speaker 3: its season, it's not gonna be the same. So sports

2179
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 3: is the most fool proof method to keep people's money

2180
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 3: for longer, because if you have an NBA deal in

2181
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 3: your Amazon, think about how long the NBA season is, folks.

2182
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 3: If you're an NBA fan and you want to watch

2183
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 3: that content. Then Amazon's going to be near the top

2184
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 3: of your streaming list for almost half of every year.

2185
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 3: And you look at WWE, that's fifty two weeks a

2186
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 3: year with no repeats that they're going to have if

2187
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 3: you want to see raw, which is the primary driver

2188
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 3: of pro wrestling television since nineteen ninety eight, really is

2189
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 3: when it really took off. You get that you have

2190
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 3: to have Netflix in order to have that. So that's

2191
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 3: what it is. Like I would pay too if I

2192
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 3: was one of the even Apple, you know, getting in

2193
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 3: on the baseball, but to a to a lesser degree,

2194
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 3: this is going to happen in a bigger and bigger way.

2195
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 3: Networks are either going to have to pony up insane

2196
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 3: money or all of this is going to these streaming

2197
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 3: services because this is the one way you can differentiate

2198
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 3: yourself long term and keep people's money for a lot

2199
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 3: longer time because the series method or the exclusive movie

2200
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 3: method just doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: No, and it just listen, I mean that is what

2202
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: you know. That is what the saying is right now,

2203
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 2: is that you know sports is the only thing. As

2204
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 2: you said, that's full proof. I'll be curious what happens because,

2205
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: like you said, Obviously, Chuck and Check and Kenny are

2206
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 2: free agents. I think they all want to work. They're

2207
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: all paid handsomely. They'll all have a place to work. Ernie,

2208
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,839
Speaker 2: it sounds like will probably be staying at Turner. They obviously,

2209
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 2: as you reference, still have MLB coverage. They actually have

2210
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 2: some college football, including one of the playoff games that

2211
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 2: they've licensed from ESPN, So it'll be interesting. But you know,

2212
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 2: I think it goes out saying we talked earlier about

2213
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley, you know, basically alluding to the fact that

2214
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 2: the USC game USC Notre Dame rivalry could be canceled

2215
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 2: in the future. And I think it just speaks to

2216
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 2: we discussed at that point how so many things are

2217
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 2: going by the wayside, and the fans are the ones

2218
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 2: that suffer. And yeah, and all I would really add

2219
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 2: here is that Turner losing the NBA and breaking up

2220
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 2: this group, the fans are the ones that suffer. I mean,

2221
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 2: all these guys are gonna make good money even if

2222
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: they're not working together.

2223
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 4: The games will go on.

2224
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: Jason, I don't know if you have anything else to

2225
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 2: add beyond that, but the fans are the ones who

2226
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 2: suffer because obviously this was something, to your point, that

2227
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 2: made the NBA, the NBA something that kind of even

2228
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 2: exceeded the games themselves.

2229
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes.

2230
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I still want to know what NBA TV

2231
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 3: looks like at the end of this. I've made that

2232
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 3: point before, but almost all the people that work on

2233
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 3: that network are Turner employees that do all the shows there.

2234
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 3: You're Isaiah Thomas's, you're Dennis Scott's, you're Steve Smith, like

2235
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:55,759
Speaker 3: all those guys through the years have been Turner guys

2236
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 3: that have been gone, and they've been on all the

2237
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 3: TNT stuff. The NBA TV stuff has been the same thing.

2238
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 3: Kannas Parker, the games that are being broadcast, the Chris Webers,

2239
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 3: all those guys have been a part of that. How

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Speaker 3: does that all pan out? Like what? I don't know

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01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 3: where that factor's in, but I'm curious to see what

2242
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 3: exactly happens to NBA TV.

2243
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting, It'll be interesting, but obviously, uh, Turner

2244
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 2: and inside the NBA will be no more after this year.

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01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torris, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting

2246
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios. We'll come back

2247
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 2: one segment left and if you haven't heard what Jim

2248
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: Harbaugh said on the day of training camp beginning, Well,

2249
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: you better stick around because you won't believe it, or

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01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 2: maybe the case of Jim Harball, you will.

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Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports Radio.

2252
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torris, Jason Martin

2253
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tirack dot Com studios. We are

2254
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 2: taking you up till the top of the hour. Bernie

2255
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 2: Fratto of The Bernie Frado Show will follow us. You know,

2256
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 2: Bernie's got the goods on.

2257
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 4: Has been a very.

2258
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 2: Busy week in sports, a lot of NFL, the Olympics

2259
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 2: tipping off and kicking off in the last twenty four

2260
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 2: or so hours. And it ain't slowing down from here,

2261
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 2: Jay Martin, It's only gonna get busier and more fun.

2262
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 4: And can't wait to keep it going. So I mentioned

2263
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 4: that it is, you know, we're getting to be that

2264
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 4: time with football.

2265
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 2: Training camps are opening, teams are reporting, and certainly a

2266
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 2: team with plenty of intrigue is of course, the Los

2267
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers haven't.

2268
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 4: Been good in a while.

2269
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert were waiting, is it finally the year? And

2270
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 2: he finally has some help? And when I say help,

2271
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: I don't mean a wide receiver and offensive tackle, though

2272
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 2: they did take a tackle in the first round. I'm,

2273
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: of course talking about a competent head coach. Baby, that's right,

2274
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 2: because after Anthony Lynn and more importantly Brandon Staley the

2275
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 2: last couple of years, Jim Harbaugh is in town. Training

2276
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 2: camp opened this week and Jim Harball was asked about

2277
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 2: returning to the NFL and responded in a way that

2278
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: only Jim Harbaugh could.

2279
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 10: Feels like Beer's day. You know, it feels like being born.

2280
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 10: It was like coming out of the womb. You know,

2281
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 10: it's like you're in there and it's comfortable and it's safe,

2282
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 10: and and now you're out.

2283
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 3: You're born. The lights are on, you know.

2284
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 10: It's bright, chaos, people look people looking at your people,

2285
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 10: people talking at you, and just feels good to you know,

2286
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 10: have it happen.

2287
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 3: Uh, that was cool, world man.

2288
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: You know what, Mary Mac play it one more time.

2289
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: I love that so much, Goad.

2290
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 10: Just the way it feels. I mean, it feels like

2291
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 10: Beer's day. You know, it feels like being born. It

2292
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 10: was like coming out of the womb. You know, it's

2293
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 10: like you're in there and it's comfortable and it's safe.

2294
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 10: And uh, and now you're out, you're born.

2295
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 3: The lights are on.

2296
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 10: You know, it's bright, chaos, people look people looking at your, people,

2297
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 10: people talking at you, and just feels good to you know.

2298
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 3: Have it happened? All right? Need a petition right now

2299
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 3: to rename the Big House the womb.

2300
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 4: Well he's not at the Big House anymore.

2301
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 3: Right, he came out of the womb.

2302
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying. I don't know, I

2303
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I just had a huge mile

2304
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 2: on my face listening to it.

2305
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 3: How are you born twice?

2306
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 4: Well, you're reborn.

2307
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 2: It's like coming out of the womb. I guess you're

2308
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 2: only born once. But he feels reborn. He feels like

2309
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: he's now come out of the womb because it's bright,

2310
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 2: lights are on, people are looking at you.

2311
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 3: Because definitely people were not paying attention to Michigan Jamar.

2312
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 2: Do you think he comes up with this stuff beforehand?

2313
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 2: Do you think this is totally ad libbed off top

2314
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 2: of his head?

2315
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 3: No, I do think it's genuine, Like it doesn't seem contrived.

2316
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 3: It's a little wacky, it's a little corny, it's a

2317
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 3: little pleated khakis. It fits Harball like it it's a

2318
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 3: very Harball like thing to say. You're still gonna kind

2319
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 3: of mock it or say something about it, But like, genuinely,

2320
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 3: I think it's all in good spirits. I think he's

2321
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 3: super excited to be back. He's wanted to be back

2322
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 3: for a long time. Things have worked out real well

2323
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 3: for him the last few years. Gets a national championship

2324
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 3: university hadn't seen that in a while, really got on

2325
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 3: top of Ohio State for a few years. Then he

2326
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 3: goes right back to the NFL and he goes straight

2327
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 3: to Justin Herbert Like things are going pretty good for him.

2328
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 3: So I do think he probably does feel, you know,

2329
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 3: really good, and he's sort of reacting. He's reacting a

2330
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 3: little excited, like he's talking about New Year's Day and

2331
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 3: all these other kinds of things. It's like he just

2332
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:42,839
Speaker 3: turned sixteen, got his driver's license, he just got access

2333
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 3: to some stuff. Like some things have happened for him.

2334
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 3: He just opened up a Red Rider BB gun for Christmas,

2335
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 3: like very much. He is living it up. He is

2336
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 3: living his best Jim Harball life.

2337
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 2: Let me say this is that I'm so glad that

2338
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: he actually won, you know, towards the end at Michigan,

2339
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 2: and let me explain why is because like it was,

2340
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 2: you know, he had that moment in time. He comes

2341
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 2: back to college, He's doing all the quirky stuff. He's

2342
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 2: you know, climbing up trees, he's Devin's sleepovers at recruits house,

2343
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 2: and it was I believe, genuinely him and he was

2344
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: genuinely being his authentic self. But then he was started losing,

2345
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 2: not losing, but he wasn't winning at the level that

2346
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 2: justified the quirky behavior. And it went from quirky weird

2347
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 2: guy to quirky weird guy who's not winning, So now

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Speaker 2: he just looks like an idiot. So I love that

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01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 2: he won so he can get back to being in

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01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 2: true to his true self, back to say exactly how

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01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 2: it feels, and back to saying stuff like this Jmart.

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01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 2: Where that was like a two three year period where

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Speaker 2: people were like, we don't really want to hear the

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01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 2: quirky stuff because you're getting your butt kicked by Ohouse.

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01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 2: Stayed every year, just focus on beating them. Had success

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Speaker 2: at Michigan, closed it out, and now he's back in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think there's something to do that.

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01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 3: I do think that it's now like eccentric and kind

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01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 3: of like, oh yeah, he's just kind of a fun

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01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 3: he's a fun guy to have around. But like three

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01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 3: years ago, it's like, shut up, just go away. I

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01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 3: don't need to see or hear you take another shot

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01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 3: at the SEC until you actually do something. You're right,

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01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 3: and we'll forget about the whole suspension and all of

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01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 3: the things that were happening at Michigan last year. But

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01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 3: he did win. He won a national championship, and now

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01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 3: he goes to the NFL fresh off of that. It's

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01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 3: been a good twenty twenty four for Jim Harball. Maybe

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01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 3: this might be the peak of it. We don't know.

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01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 3: They're actually gonna have to go play football and win

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Speaker 3: games there, and that's not a thing the Chargers have

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01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 3: done a whole lot. But look at this is hardball

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Speaker 3: the way that you do want. I agree with you.

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01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 3: It is a lot more fun to have him this way.

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01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 2: Don't disagree, and we will see if the winds start

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01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 2: coming good news for him. It really got some breaks

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Speaker 2: with schedule. How about this for an opening Raiders at

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Speaker 2: home at Panthers, at Steelers, your Broncos in Week five,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals and Saints as well, early in the schedule, so

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Speaker 2: they could get off to a pretty hot start.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, Jason, we got to get

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Speaker 4: out of here.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I thank the crew ian producing the show, Mary Mack

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Speaker 2: on the board, De Sager.

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Speaker 4: From my partner Jason Martin, I'm here, Torres.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show.

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Speaker 2: Bernie's got all sorts of good stuff on a busy

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