1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings. The Ravens 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: season is over. This is the most miserable of all 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: the Mondays. When it all comes to a screeching halt. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Ravens fall to the Pittsburgh Steelers in over time sixteen 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: to thirteen and end the season with an eight and 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: nine record. Six game losing streak is their longest since 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: when what was it? No? Two thousand seven? I mean, gosh, 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: my brain is the two thousand seven? Um, it's I mean, 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: it's just brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal ending. I will say 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the one, the one silver lining, the one thing that 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: saved it was that the Miami Dolphins beat the New 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: England Patriots, so the Ravens wouldn't have gotten into the 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: playoffs anyway. The Ravens needed the three things to go 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: their way. They got two of them. They got the 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: most shocking one. That that really what encapsulates the Ravens season. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Of all the weird twists and turns, and how strange 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: this season was, you actually got the Jags beat the Colts. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: The most improbable of the other outcomes that you needed happened. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: And then the one that I took for granted as 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: an automatic slam dunk. The Patriots lost to the Dolphins. Uh, 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: and then and then the wild finished between the Chargers 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: and Raiders. But golly, I do take some some uh 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: relief and the fact that the Ravens wouldn't have made 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: it in even if they lost the Steelers. But to 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: be honest, losing sixth straight to close out the season 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and watching Big Ben and the Steelers celebrate on your 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: field and watching them go to the playoffs still kind 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: of hurts. Yeah, I mean, I do think that it 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of the staying out of it 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, well that game didn't matter 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: in terms of playoff hopes. In fact, it only helped 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens in terms of draft position and next year's schedule. 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: You can justify it a little bit and you say, okay, 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: will now because of that, the Ravens end up with 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: a higher draft pick. They're gonna be picking fourtee and 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing an easier schedule next year because 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: they finished fourth in the division rather than second. So 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: now that's you say, okay, well you get the Jags 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: instead of the Colts next year. So yeah, you can 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: justify those things. Um. But that said, you could tell 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: that it it definitely stung. It hurt for the players 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: and the coaches and the fans leaving M. T. Bake 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Stadium yesterday. There was not a feeling of you know what, well, 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna be picking a few spots higher. I'm excited 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: about that next year. Um. And I just think that 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: the way that it's set up for Ben Roethlisberger overtime 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: drive leading to the field goal and then then celebrating, 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: and it just was a kind of a painful way 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: to end what has been a painful second half of 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: a crazy season. Yeah. Absolutely, you know it would have 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: also been saved last night had had the Raiders Chargers 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: game finish in a tie and this and the Steelers 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: would have been kept out of the playoffs. That was 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: really the most the only enjoyment that I got out 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: of yesterday was watching Steelers fans squirm on the stretch 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: of that Sunday night football game. That would have actually 57 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: been the best case scenario, right Like if the player 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens weren't gonna make the playoffs anyway, get the 59 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: higher draft pick, get the better schedule, and then the 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Steelers get just completely shafted and left out the playoffs. 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: That would have been amazing. Yeah, that would have been nice, 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: but uh, obviously didn't happen. I mean, that would have 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: been kind of a crazy ending to that ridiculous game. 64 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I would 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: have loved for the Steelers not to make the playoffs. 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: That would have been great. But at the end of 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the day, I'm not all that who cares, And well, 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: I only care because I'm looking for any shreds of 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: joy right now, Garrett, I'll tell you what gave me 70 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: some joy yesterday, and we'll start talking about the game. 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: And also, just so listeners know this podcast is going 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: to be focused on the Steelers game, we are going 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: to follow up and do it more of a big picture. 74 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have lots of time to do kind of 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: big picture discussions about the season. We will go back 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: and look at, you know, our predictions from the year, 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: probably most of which were wrong given all the injuries. Um, 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: but we will take a look at that. We'll also 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: talk about where this team is going in terms of 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: some of the offseason decisions, which there's a lot of 81 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: important offseason decisions. We will get into all that, but 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: not today. Today is gonna be mostly focused on yesterday's game, 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: just the end of the season. Um. But uh, one 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: thing I did get some enjoyment from yesterday was Terrell 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Sus being back. I will say that, Oh, that was 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: the best part of the game. That was awesome having 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: him come out of the tunnel where in not just 88 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the bin mask, basically the full ban costume. And uh, 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: you just reminded with that guy that he was equal 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: parts football player and entertainer. He had both those things down. Oh, 91 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: he's the best entertainer. Yeah, I mean it's hard to 92 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: think of a better entertainer. Maybe it was a better entertainer. 93 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I would probably say no. In terms of your like 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: enter attainment, SUNS takes the cake. Yeah, I agree. I've 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: always said that Trail sucks to me, Like he understood 96 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: that football in the NFL was entertainment and he kind 97 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: of played the w w E pro wrestling role better 98 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: than anybody else that I've ever seen, and even in 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: retirement he can do it. He did an awesome job 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: with our trailer and then was was great coming out 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: of the tunnel. So um, but it was kind of 102 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: downhill from there because it was a disappointing game for 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens on a nasty weather. I think the weather 104 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: definitely impacted the offense. It was it was cold and rainy. 105 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: I think both offenses struggled as a result of that. 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: It was it was tough to move the football, um, 107 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, and and at the end of the day, 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: it just it kind of came down to I feel 109 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: like this is rinse and repeat. We could we could 110 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: probably play a podcast from you know, the last month 111 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: here and it's the same story where the Ravens need 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: basically another play on offense or defense to get it done, 113 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: and they're just not able to do it. They moved 114 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, but they couldn't get themselves 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: completely into the ogal range at the end of regulation 116 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: or in overtime to go and get the win. They 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: couldn't get the stop for defense, you know, for the defense. 118 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger gets a couple of third down conversions, then 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: gets the fourth down conversion to set up the game 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: winning field goal, which is just a backbreaker. It felt 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: like it felt like the week before when the Rams 122 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: got the you know, they get the late conversion on 123 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: their drive game winner, just like I've seen this before 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: and it just well with Ben Roethlisberger. We've seen it 125 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: many times. I mean that that whole game, you know, 126 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: in the second half, when the Ravens had to settle 127 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: for a field goal and and then markis you know, 128 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: Marky's Brown drops the touchdown pass. I kept, I said, 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens are gonna have to score more points. 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I understand that this is a defensive slug fest right here, 131 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: but leading thirteen to ten, you knew that that wasn't 132 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna last, right, you knew that, Or at the time 133 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: it was ten to six, actually you knew that, Like 134 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: you had to score more points because Ben was going 135 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to to beat you in the fourth corner quarter eventually. 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: Like you can only give that man so many chances 137 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: before he breaks through. And that's exactly what he did. 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have we seen it? Like 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: he was terrible. The Ravens just totally handcuffed him for 140 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: three quarters of the game, and then all of a sudden, 141 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: he hits whatever it is, eight straight passes, you know, 142 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and you just can't stop him. 143 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen this so many times from the 144 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Terminator as Wink Martin Darrell called him, and he terminated 145 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: the raven season. And um, it's just it just thinks 146 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: the Terminator is is gonna be heading, you know, into retirement. 147 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: That's that's the That's the other silverlying here is that 148 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: it's probably it for Ben, most likely. And uh, we 149 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: won't have to watch that torment any longer because it 150 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: was one time too many yesterday at the end of 151 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I think that like when I 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: look at this season and the Ravens finished eight and nine, 153 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: it's just like and John Harball said it at the 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: end of the game. He said, basically the kind of 155 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: the story here at the end of the season was 156 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: there was multiple games you just needed one more play. 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: And this every game for the most part, with the 158 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: exception of a few, was so close this year. You're 159 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: coming down to two point conversions, you're coming down to 160 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: getting a stop in overtime, like you're coming down to 161 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: sixty six yard field goal on the other end. And 162 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: as we talked about previously, like the Ravens won some 163 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: games earlier this year that they probably had no business winning, 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: you know, the winning that game in Detroit. We all 165 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: afterwards were saying, we're kind of telling the story, and 166 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: it felt like this, like this kind of has a 167 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: team of destiny vibe, and uh, in reality, what it 168 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: turned out to be was that the team, this team 169 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: was kind of a five team, and they won some 170 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: games they probably shouldn't have won, and they lost some 171 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: games that they probably shouldn't have lost, and it all 172 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of evened out to being a five team and 173 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: and that's just where the Ravens were this year. And 174 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: it was fun tell the story early on where it 175 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: just felt like, man, this team is getting the breaks, 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: the scene has the mojo working, These close games are 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna pay off late. And then they ended up not 178 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: paying off late, and that was kind of a tough 179 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: pill to swallow. But I just think it was a 180 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: fact that that's kind of who this team was, like, 181 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: given all the injuries, they were a team that was 182 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: gonna be around and then it was tough to get 183 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: over home and clutch moments late in the season. Well, 184 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: you're talking, you know, in season recap talk here that No, 185 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm just I thought yesterday's game encapsulated that theme of 186 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: the second half of Oh for sure. Yeah, like you said, 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: it was rinse and repeat. It was rinsin repeat. But 188 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: let's like, here's the thing that I think we shouldn't 189 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: all forget, right, is that look at the book at 190 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens, like top offensive players yesterday. Okay, you've got 191 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley making his fourth career start against the Pittsburgh 192 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: Steelers defense and the guy who just tied the the 193 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: all time sack record, right, I mean, you've got a 194 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: bad ed up offensive line replacement and left tackle for 195 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley. You know you've had injuries there right tackle. 196 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Eventually David Sharp has to come into the game because 197 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Patrick McCarry went out. So then you're leading rushers Lettavius Murray, 198 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: who had a good day six abuck fifty in the touchdown. 199 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: But then it's Huntley and Freeman are the next leading rushers. Like, 200 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, I just think that you can't forget. And 201 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: I think we all kind of fell into this because 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: the injury lists had grown so long, but you like 203 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: like you just like got into this habit of like, okay, 204 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: here's the whatever ten guys. You know, let's list the 205 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: guys again who are on I are right, And and 206 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: then we got tricked into thinking because the Ravens won 207 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: so many games early on, and because the backups played 208 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: so well and kept the Ravens in so many games 209 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: that like we got tricked into thinking the Ravens should 210 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: win these games. But they shouldn't. They they shouldn't have 211 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: even been in this position, right, And like, as we've said, 212 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: for much of the year, they lost all margin for air, 213 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Like every missed opportunity like a dropped past or whatever, 214 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: every like fourth down stop that you didn't get was 215 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: just devastating to this team because you had they had 216 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: no margin for air because of the players that were 217 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: in there, like they had no cushion. And so every 218 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: time that they like made a mistake, and if you 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: made whatever three of them, you were done. You just 220 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: lost that game, right, And like everything makes mistakes, you 221 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: don't capitalize on acent of your opportunities. But if the Ravens, 222 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: like the Ravens backups basically had to play a perfect 223 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: game to win these and they didn't, which shouldn't be surprising. Yeah, 224 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean I get that. I mean you are you're 225 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: you're you're cherry picking a little bit here because you said, 226 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: look at the Ravens offensive weapons they had. Mark Andrews 227 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: out there who just had the best receiving season of 228 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: any player in Ravens history, and receiver they had right 229 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: at receiver. At receiver, they actually ended up pretty healthy. Yeah, 230 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: they had Mark Andrew's Hollywood Brown who who had a thing? 231 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: Who's your first and then you have ever Shot Bateman, 232 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: who's your first round pick? Yeah. Now, look, they didn't 233 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: get what they wanted out of I would say Hollywood 234 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: over the over the last month of the season. Um 235 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Bateman yesterday had two catches for twenty two yards, but Mark, 236 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, more of the same, eight for eighty five. 237 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: And then in terms of running back sixteen targets from Mark, Well, 238 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: we set it before like just so to Mark Andrews 239 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: on every play and kind of kind of happened that way, 240 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: which has been a great and and brutal backbreaking strategy 241 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: because there's been so many interceptions to him as well. Yeah, 242 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, of course, the losing of j K. 243 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Dobbs and Gus Edwards hurt this year, there's no denying that. 244 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: But it didn't hurt yesterday. Tavis Murray had sixteen carries 245 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: for a hundred fifty yards average nine yards. Yeah, but sure, 246 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: but you have to ask yourself, what would it have 247 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: been with, Well, you think it's gonna be two d 248 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: fifty yards if those guys are healthy? Maybe, Well, Tavia's 249 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Murry put up nine yards of carry, okay, like he 250 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: had a good day yesterday. Not having those guys. How 251 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: about the fact that they had Tyler Huntley may had 252 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: a good enough You don't have think that game? Okay? 253 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: Do you think not having do you think not having sure? 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: Could they have put up average fifteen yards of carry? Maybe? 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: But what are you basing that on. I'm not saying 256 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: I'm not all right? Fine? How about Snoop Snoop instead 257 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: of v P. Well that is that to me is 258 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: an obvious one. Like, but you're talking about the running backs. 259 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: And look, the Ravens played the last month of the 260 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: season without the starting quarterback. And I think that we 261 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: all liked what we saw from Snoop at times over 262 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: that last month. But you also are reminded that Lamar 263 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Jackson does things that things that nobody else on the 264 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: football field can do. And I thought that was evident 265 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: for sure. I think I think the Ravens felt the 266 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: loss of Lamar Jackson more yesterday than they had in 267 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the previous three games that Tyler Huntley had started. Yeah, 268 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: and I think you're easy. It's easy to be like 269 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: when when Snoop keeps the Ravens in these games and 270 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: they're playing the Packers and you're like, well, this isn't 271 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: a game that they should win, and then Snoop goes 272 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers and you're like, man, Snoop, 273 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Snoop is impressive, and he was, he was impressive. But 274 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: like you, I think people too quickly forgot all the 275 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: things that Lamar Jackson does on the football field and 276 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: how he is such a difference maker for this team. 277 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: The Ravens went one and four without him this year, 278 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: and so credits is Snoop for keeping this team in 279 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: all of these games that he played, with the exception 280 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: of the Bengals game. But that you're I thought yesterday 281 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: it was clear didn't even play in the Bengals game. 282 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, sorry, yes, yes, you're sorry, You're right, You're right, right, right, 283 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: they are run together. But I'm just saying that, like 284 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens went one and four without Lamar Jackson this year, 285 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: they went seven and five with him. So now let's 286 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: also not forget that Lamar wasn't playing his best football 287 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: before his injury, which also clouded our vision of this 288 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: whole situation. Right, But I think like the longer that 289 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: we saw Lamar Jackson sideline, the more we all kind 290 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of woke up to the fact that, like Lamar is 291 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: a very special player and he has missed. Like I 292 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: think you you felt that more yesterday certainly, and and 293 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: not saying that like Lamar would have lit the world 294 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: on fire, but I think he would have been better 295 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: than Snoop was yesterday. I can. I can say that 296 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: pretty with some confidence. I mean, the interception to Mark 297 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Andrews in the end zone when the Ravens were leading 298 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I think ten the six at the time started the 299 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: third quarter as the first play of the fourth quarter 300 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: was a backbreaker. A backbreaker the Ravens are in position 301 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: to at least go up a touchdown, take a touchdown 302 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: lead if they kick a field goal there. To turn 303 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the ball over was absolutely brutal in that situation. You know, 304 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: Snoop just didn't get enough on that pass. Mark Andrews, 305 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: because he's a stand up guy, put it on himself 306 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: and said he should have still scored if he came 307 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: back to the ball, but just not a good throw. 308 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, I thought he had him open and he 309 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: didn't and he didn't get enough on it. So and 310 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: and that's kind of been Snoop's problem has been turnovers. 311 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: You know. He also had a fumble on the first drive. 312 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: He had an interception on the second drive of the game. 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: You just can't turn the ball over to the Steelers 314 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: three times and still expect to win that game with 315 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: all the backups that the Ravens have in there, You're 316 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: just you're just not and um, you know, the Ravens 317 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: in the red zone the last month of the season 318 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: was painful to watch them not be able to get 319 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: into the end zone. That was ultimately their undoing, you know, 320 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if they get if they have a better 321 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: red zone execution, either in two point conversions or whatever. 322 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: For you know, how many first and goals have there 323 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: been over the six game losing streak that the Ravens 324 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: ended up kicking field goals on just absolutely killed them. 325 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's just tough. I mean, the biggest 326 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: takeaway from me is Sam Cook's perfect passer rating seven 327 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: for seven is gone. Let's let's be honest, We're wanna 328 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: talk about the quarterback situation. I think we have to 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: start and end with Sam Cook. That was. That was 330 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: a disappointment. That was that big bummer, big bummer. That was. 331 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: That was a disappointment. I mean defensively, defensively, you look 332 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: at it, and the Ravens held them the seventy nine 333 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: rushing yards on thirty carries. Nag Harris had eleven for 334 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, gracious shut him down in the run game. 335 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: It was just what we've seen from the defense all 336 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: season long. You know, Pat Friar muth As leads him 337 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: in in receiving was six for fifty three. But then 338 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: in clutch moments, you know, you you get, you get 339 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: a ton of stops, you're playing really well, but then 340 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: in a couple of clutch moments, the Ravens give up 341 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: long drives late in the game. And that's been kind 342 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: of the story. It's hard. I feel like we've said 343 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: this every single week. It's hard to put too much 344 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: blame on the defense because overall, you gave up sixteen 345 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: points to the Steelers, including overtime, right, like that should 346 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: be good enough to win, Like you held him down 347 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: long enough where the offense should have put you in 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: position to win, but in the end, like you had 349 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: a four worth and eight or whatever it was, that 350 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: they convert and you just you have your foot on 351 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: the throat and and they keep sliding slithering out of it, 352 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: and it's just, uh, that's kind of been the story 353 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: of the defense here over the second half of the 354 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: of the season. 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I want to read 363 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: an email here, um, because this kind of goes back 364 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: to what we're talking about here. This is from Kyle 365 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: Richer and as always, you can email us with the 366 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. And before I 367 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: just get into this, setting your emails because I know 368 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: there's lots of questions of out this offseason, what the 369 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna do. Don't start sending us mock drafts 370 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: there yet. I did to get a couple of tweets 371 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: at me with mock drafts. Too early for that. Okay, 372 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: too early for the mock drafts. We will we will 373 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: have plenty of time to talk about that. But there's 374 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: other things before we get into the mock draft talks. 375 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: So this email from Kyle says, at the beginning of 376 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: if if at the beginning of the season you would 377 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: have told me that this team would go eight nine, 378 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I would have said that sounds about right. However, outside 379 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: of four games, the rest of these games, the entire 380 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: year could have gone either way. I think the marginal 381 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: impact of having a healthy team is what made the 382 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Els in the latter half of the season. I'd argue 383 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: that the first nine games would tilt further in the 384 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Ravens at full strength, and we're more likely to win 385 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: half the games in the last eight. I'm I'm not 386 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: sure exactly what his sentences there, but I think he's 387 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: basically saying what we talked about, which is that if 388 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: you lose all the you lose the margin of air 389 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: and you play in these close games they tilted in 390 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: the other direction. The Green Bay game and the Steelers 391 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: game with these two pointers are an excellent example of 392 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: all of this. Obviously, the entirety of those games plays 393 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: differently with any other symbols of a starting secondary. But 394 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that these games fall to to two 395 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: point conversions if you have your whole team healthy, So 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, at a certain point, 397 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: the health of the team really makes a difference in 398 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: the grand scale of the season, and to get eight 399 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: wins is pretty great in hindsight, I would agree with 400 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: that all of that. I think, um, even before you know, 401 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: when the Ravens season was starting and you had lost Dobbins, Gus, 402 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters right those three losses, and you at that 403 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: point had your first round your top draft pick, which 404 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: Bateman on the shelf you know, for the first X 405 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: number of weeks in the season. At that point of 406 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: the year, after those losses, I was like, this seems 407 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: gonna be around five scrapes, you know, scrapping to get 408 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. That's how I felt. And plus and 409 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: you didn't have Nick Boyle, which like if you if 410 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: you remember a year ago, when Nick Boyle and Ronnie 411 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: Stanley went down mid season, Like remember how big all 412 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: of us reacted to Nick Boyle's lost at that point, 413 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: where like if you don't have Nick Boyle in this offense, 414 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: like can it really work? Not having Nick Boyle for all? 415 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: But what three or four games this year? Like that 416 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: was like a way down on the list of of 417 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: problems for the Ravens this year, right, Like that just 418 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of shows you the context of how bad the 419 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: injuries were this year. Anyway, when the season was starting 420 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: and you didn't have all those players, I thought they'd 421 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: be around five. Then they lost Ronnie Stanley after one game, 422 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey midseason, Lamar for the last four games, Anthony 423 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: Everett your top cornerback after Marcus Peters and Marlon Humphrey 424 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: out for the last two games, critical games. Pat ricarda 425 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: pro bowler lost for whatever, he missed four or five 426 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: games down the stretch. I mean, look, I'm I'm with 427 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: who else am I missing? Derek Wolfe. We thought we 428 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: would get back at some point, didn't never come back 429 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: to Sean Elliott never you know, lost in mid season, 430 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Like I get it, and it's true, and and like 431 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: as we as we have said the injuries made a difference. 432 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: They they call I hate. I hate when people say 433 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: injuries are an excuse. I hate. But here's the thing. 434 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: It's not an excuse. It's real tangible losses that make 435 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: a real tangible difference on the game. It's not an excuse, 436 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: it's a fact. Yeah. But okay, but there's also this. 437 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the Tennessee Titans are the best team in 438 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: the a f C. They played half the season without 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: the best running back in the NFL. Sure, Okay, honestly, 440 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: they on a Pro Bowl receiver they played. They played 441 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of games without Julio Jones, uh, future Hall 442 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: of Fame receiver. Okay, so like, so there is injuries 443 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: are a part of the game. And how did they 444 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: make a difference for the Ravens. Absolutely, they made a difference, 445 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: and that's the Ravens had more than anybody else. But 446 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: you go through these teams, every team does have injuries, 447 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: and just using the Titans as an example, they had 448 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like role players here, I'm talking 449 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: about a guy who might have Sure. I think I 450 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: think the Titans like they're kind of the anomaly, right, 451 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: Like give them credit. They they rose above those big 452 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: time losses. I think though for the Ravens too, and 453 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not quite versed on exactly the the 454 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: extent of all the Titans injuries, but it wasn't just 455 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: the stars for the Ravens. It was like they started 456 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: losing these games down the stretch also because their death 457 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: was completely eroded. I mean, it wasn't like just their 458 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: top two cornerbacks that people talked about every week. I 459 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: mean it was favorite. On top of that, Tavon Young 460 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: was banged up down the stretch. I mean, like you're 461 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: playing guys that you just signed off the street, are 462 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: playing the Snabs. I mean, of course, I mean it's 463 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: not it's not just the top few players across the board, 464 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: Like especially in the secondary, they were just absolutely decimated. 465 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: They were. I mean they were and I'm not I'm 466 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: not again, I'm not like diminishing the fact that they 467 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: had these these injuries. I'm just saying that, like I 468 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: just put I just hit the pause button when you're 469 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: just willing to say, well, nothing else they could have done. 470 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: There's two injured ever season, Well, injuries, that's all you got, 471 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Just injuries. That's like what I said at the beginning. 472 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Could they have one? They could have clearly, I mean 473 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: they lost five of the last six games by a 474 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: combined eight points. They could have one, which is but 475 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: I think that's to their credit, like that they despite 476 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: having all these injuries, they still put them themselves in 477 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: a position where they could have And let's also not 478 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: forget these last six games were against murderers row of 479 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: their schedule. Like we all said, they had to jump 480 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: out to a big lead earlier the year and then 481 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: late in the year they were gonna have this just 482 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: brutal ends to the schedule. When they came to that 483 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: part of the schedule, they lost their m v P 484 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: starting quarterback and numerous other players. Like against the best 485 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: of opponents, the Green Bay Packers of the number one 486 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: seed in the NFC, the l A Rams are one 487 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the NFC, The Bengals are 488 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the a f C. Right, 489 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, so I understand, I certainly understand what you're saying, 490 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: but I think it's to the Ravens credit that they 491 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: put themselves in a could have won position despite all 492 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: these losses. But should they have no let's keep it 493 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: in mind that they should not have even been in 494 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: some of these games, but they were. Yeah, I think overall, 495 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: as as I've I've said here, like I think that 496 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: there is there is a lot to feel I guess 497 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: good about or to look at this season and say, man, 498 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: the Ravens deserve a lot of credit and John Harball 499 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: and his coaching staff deserve a lot of credit for 500 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: basically keeping the fight alive and when when and I 501 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of other teams would have been in 502 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: a t KO situation, uh well before the Ravens were, 503 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: and they took this thing down to the bitter end 504 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: of the season. They came as close as you can 505 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: get to make in the playoffs just about and and 506 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: they didn't. It didn't happen. But like, I think that 507 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: there's a lot of credit to be doled out to 508 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the players for continuing to fight 509 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: despite the circumstances that they were up against. But as 510 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: I say that, I do, like I understand, it's still painful. 511 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: It's still painful. That doesn't mean it doesn't hurt for 512 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: the players who are out there. Like you know, I 513 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: think that they take a lot of pride, and they 514 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: have the attitude of like, well we could, we could 515 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: have made the play here to to get a win. 516 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: And I just don't want to like completely diminish those 517 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: guys who are out there, who are in position to 518 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: make a play to make it cook to come up 519 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: with one of those two point versions, and they weren't 520 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: able to do it, um because they were in position 521 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: to win these games or get a fourth down stop 522 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and they just weren't able to do it in those situations. 523 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: And part of the reason, also in addition to all 524 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: the things that we just talked about, why the Ravens 525 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: aren't going to the playoffs, all right, here's another and 526 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: what's what's on? What's uncanny? Just one more point. It's 527 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: like it's honestly uncanny that they didn't make one of 528 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: those plays, Like what are the chances even I don't, 529 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: regardless of who's out there, like the chances that you 530 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: are are in, I don't. I kind of want to 531 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: go back. Maybe we'll do this for the season recap 532 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: and like count how many you know this one play 533 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: makes the difference situations that they were in because like 534 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: they went like O for a dozen, I think they 535 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: made them they just made them earlier in the season. 536 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: They made him against the Colts, they made them against 537 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they made him against the lines. Like if 538 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: you just basically mixed the games up, you know, rather 539 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: than the first half and the second half the Vikings. Yeah, 540 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: like yeah, Vikings. If you just kind of mixed those 541 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: intersperse those games, it's not as daunting where you look 542 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: at it and you're like, well, the last six games 543 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: just all fell apart. Yeah, yeah, well I know, I'm 544 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: but I'm just curious about like how many situations they 545 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: were in where like one play may have put them 546 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs over the last six games. I'd be 547 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: curious to count it up. And and what I'm the 548 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: point I'm making here is like the sheer chances that 549 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: they go over in a dozen of those situations is unfathomable. Well, 550 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: as we're looking at kind of ranking plays here. This 551 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: is an email from Will to the lounge at Ravens 552 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: on NFL dot Net. Another close lot, a loss, but 553 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to next season. He says, 554 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen five place, which one do you think 555 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: is the most devastating in that lost? The Steeler rank 556 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: the pain here um, okay, I'm actually kind of down hotly. 557 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: Interception in the end zone, the Hollywood drop in the 558 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: end zone, the Hollywood mits catch along the sidelines from 559 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: makeup punched it out, Brandon Stevens dropped to pick at midfield, 560 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: and then the fumbled snap and the eventual Steelers recovery. Well, 561 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that one the last one, the fumbled 562 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: snap at the bottom of the list, just because it 563 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: happened so early. Um, but yeah, that was bad. It 564 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: led to a Steelers field goal. I'll put that at 565 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: the bottom of the list. Uh, I'm gonna put the 566 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens one. Feels like it should go next to last. 567 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's a rookie, like, you know, 568 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that one didn't. I still felt like 569 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens like should have closed that drive out even 570 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: after that, like I was like, oh, but then like 571 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: I still felt like they were going to make a 572 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: stop there because I think it was a third and 573 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: long even after that or second and long. Um, So 574 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I'll put that one. There's five, so that's that goes for. 575 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: I'll put that one forth. Okay, I'll put the Hollywood 576 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: drop along the sideline third that Hollywood's got to make 577 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: that play. But I'll give Mainga some credit, like getting 578 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: his hand directly on the ball. That kind of reminds 579 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: me as painful as it is to bring up of 580 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: the lead. Oh totally remind me of Lee Evans. Got 581 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: the ball for like a full second and then somehow 582 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: the DV just gets his hand directly on the ball. 583 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: And and the other thing with that play is I 584 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: think that Holly like it was a good play by Maka. 585 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a play that Hollywood should have because 586 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: you got should have it in your hands, and he 587 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: did have it. He secured the ball, he was like 588 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: trying to make sure his feet were in but he 589 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: didn't really like turn his body to protect the ball. 590 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: And so the thing about that one though, is like 591 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: that would have put him right around the fifty. Like 592 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: that would not have put them in field goal range. 593 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: They were darn close. They would have been. They would 594 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: have needed another player too to get there. Um, But 595 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: it's not like, well, if you make that catch, the 596 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: game's over agreed. So off for that third second, I'm 597 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna put Hollywood was dropped dropped touchdown pass uh And 598 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: then first I'm gonna put the end zone and interception 599 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: interception to Mark, which probably would have put the game 600 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: away at that point, considering how well the Ravens defense 601 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: was playing. We're not going to toss into Latavious Murray 602 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: is shin barely touches the ground when he trucks the dude. 603 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I put it at the bottom. But that still was 604 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: pretty painful, Like they needed that first they did, but 605 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean that was at first I was like, why 606 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: did they not look at that? Like me too? But 607 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: it was the right call. When they came back on 608 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: the broadcast, they showed his his knee hit. Um yeah, 609 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, look if Hollywood catches that touchdown, then it's 610 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: probably the Ravens probably win the game. Um yeah, I 611 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: mean it's I think it's a tough it's a tough 612 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of a toss up to me. Between the 613 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: drop and the end zone and then the Huntley interceptions. 614 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: Huntley interception and the end zoneip was just so painful 615 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: because it was like, to me, that's when it felt like, oh, 616 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen, Like we're gonna go to the playoffs. 617 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: The Jags are whooping up on the culture right now. 618 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: You're getting those updates like that. At that point, it's 619 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: like a twenty point game, Like, Okay, the Colts are 620 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna lose this game, and the Ravens are marching down 621 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: the field they had just picked up before down Tavia's 622 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: Murray is putting up big yards. Feels like every time 623 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: he touches the football he had a hundred plus. The 624 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 1: planets were all like you could feel the planets aligning. 625 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we're gonna get this clip. 626 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: Here we go. Started to feel pretty good and Mt. 627 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium was was kind of rocking and people were 628 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: having a good time. You're like, this is this is 629 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And then to throw that pick and just 630 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: take all the wind out of those sales was painful. Yes, completely. Anyway, 631 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back later this week with the full recap. 632 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: We'll go into our predictions. Um, Like you said, Garrett, 633 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: I think this is it's gonna be ugly. It's to 634 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: be like the six game losing streak for us in 635 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: terms of reviewing our season predictions. It's gonna be ugly. Um. 636 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks for listening. As always, you can reach 637 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: us at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 638 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: We look forward to many more emails and uh and 639 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: there will be plenty of time for all season discussion. 640 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: A lot of tough, tough decisions to be made this offseason. 641 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. Thank you for hanging with us 642 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: all season long. Thanks for listening to the Monday Morning reaction. 643 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: It's been our first time doing this and I think 644 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: it was pretty fun, pretty raw. You know, we sketch 645 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: down some notes about five minutes before we start down 646 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: some notes. It's it's coming off the top of the dome. 647 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: But I hope you all, I hope you all enjoyed 648 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: how raw it's been. I wish it could have had 649 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: a different ending, but but we appreciate you all as always. Anyway, 650 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. We'll be back this week.