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Speaker 1: Here we go, Hour two, We're live. It's the Herd Man.

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Speaker 1: Is there a storm coming? Hold on Nashville? Wow? Wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making us part of your day. A lot of NFL time.

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Speaker 1: I saw this this morning. The Steph Curry, you're seventeen,

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Speaker 1: still leads the NBA in Jersey sales. They just don't

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Speaker 1: know how to turn the page. Warriors aren't even good,

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Speaker 1: you know. It feels like a problem to me. It's

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Speaker 1: like the Marvel Universe, where a bunch of years ago

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Speaker 1: they did endgame and they're like, well that's the end

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Speaker 1: of it. Aren't they releasing Doomsday? They can't. They can't

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Speaker 1: figure out how to turn the page. In the Marvel universe.

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Speaker 1: The NBA's got too many players. Nobody cares about the

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Speaker 1: regular seasons. The irrelevant star players don't even want to play

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Speaker 1: two repetitive, too many three pointers. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: the problem with the NBA, because all the ratings are exploding.

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Speaker 1: People can say, well, the NBA ratings, they went from

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Speaker 1: cable to broadcast. Of course the ratings are up. Is

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Speaker 1: that when you're a player led league, you're going to

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Speaker 1: have major dips based on the popularity of your player.

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Speaker 1: When Michael Jordan left, they lost fifty percent of their ratings.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, you don't have big dips because people

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Speaker 1: love the Packers, not just Jordan love they love the Niners,

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Speaker 1: not just George Kittle, they love the Eagles, not just

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts or Lane Johnson. But in the NBA, it's

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Speaker 1: all about the player. Pander to the player, it's all

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Speaker 1: about the player. Take care of the player. It's not

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Speaker 1: about the franchise. And that's why the NBA has these

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Speaker 1: massive dips in interest is and the NFL doesn't. For

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. You can bet on both. They're

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Speaker 1: both pretty good on TV. But well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: more NFL games. Then there are a lot more NBA

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Speaker 1: games than there are NFL. Well, there's double the baseball

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Speaker 1: regular season games as the NBA games and baseball's ratings

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Speaker 1: are on fire, and they didn't just go cable to broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Why Because people love the Dodgers, not just Otani. People

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Speaker 1: love the Yankees, not just Aaron Judge. They love the Cubs,

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Speaker 1: not just the players. The NBA is so player driven

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Speaker 1: that your ratings and the interest. I mean, if Steph

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Speaker 1: is still leading in year seventeen in Jersey sales, Tom

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Speaker 1: He was the Jordan of the sport. Number one I

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Speaker 1: think was Josh Allen. Micah Parsons was way up there,

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Speaker 1: and Tom's last year, Mahomes was up there. Burrow I

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Speaker 1: think was three or four. Because the NFL is not

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Speaker 1: dependent on you liking the player. It's about the team

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Speaker 1: and the franchise. Baseball does a good job too. You

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Speaker 1: love the Cubs. It's great when the Cubs get good players,

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Speaker 1: but you love the Cubs first. Diana Russini, with that

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Speaker 1: is now joining us Live Man. There's a lot going

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Speaker 1: on the athletic Senior NFL Insider, So there's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different stories out there, won by Vick Carucci, who's

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Speaker 1: been in Buffalo forever, about Sean McDermott telling the owner

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Speaker 1: and the GM Hey, I don't love the personnel. I mean,

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Speaker 1: was the firing of Sean McDermott completely unexpected or had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think ownership was as irritable or frustrated

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Speaker 3: Started to get out, probably week seventeen. It was starting

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Speaker 4: And at the Athletic we actually already wrote a piece.

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Speaker 3: I'd found out that that ownership was really they were

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Speaker 3: And I really truly don't think it was lack of

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Speaker 3: look at it historically, if a coach has not won

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Speaker 4: A head coach, it's tough. And some of these all

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Speaker 3: On top of the fact, you're watching a lot of

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Speaker 4: I think that's what's tempting.

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Speaker 1: Will Josh Allen have any say in the next coach, Dana,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have, wouldn't you, Right, Like Josh Allen is

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Speaker 3: why I do think they're gonna wind up leaning towards

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Speaker 3: not something that they have. And they're gonna they're gonna want.

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Speaker 4: A coach to come in here. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: Who's done it and get this thing going because they're

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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you make of the reports or suggestions?

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing about Bill Belichick in Buffalo? Nothing?

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Speaker 3: So I think, look, he has been his people, including

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Speaker 3: so I think he obviously has information. You're not doing

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Speaker 3: that unless you know you don't have a shot. And

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Speaker 3: I have yet to have a conversation in this coaching cycle,

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Speaker 3: even last one of anyone who seriously was considering bringing

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Speaker 3: Bill in. I didn't mean to come off mean by

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Speaker 3: the way. That was just more of like the facts,

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Speaker 1: Well, sometimes Bill was me. I mean, it's not the

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Speaker 4: Oh Bill's Bill's remain billis. I've had some tough press conferences.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 4: I remember sitting there.

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Speaker 5: I was young.

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Speaker 4: My shirt was soaked. I was so afraid.

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Speaker 3: I asked him if he ever considered treating Jimmy No,

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Speaker 3: if you regretted trading Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Garoppolo after that practice.

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Speaker 3: Remember when Tom jammed his finger helmet like cut his finger.

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Speaker 4: And that was the question I asked in that pot

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Speaker 3: It was memorable, it was awful.

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Speaker 1: I love John Harble. The hardballs are so they get

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Speaker 1: they love football so much they can't even hide it.

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Speaker 1: They're like kids, They're like kids. I got to tell

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Speaker 1: you something. I've been critical of the Giants for a

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Speaker 1: long time. I think they're good now. I think they

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised? What was the word around the league

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Speaker 1: in your sources when Harball immediately jumped on this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Did people think it was this good of a job

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Speaker 1: because John's like, not no hesitation, He wanted that job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of candidates felt the same way

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Speaker 3: about this Giants roster. This was one of the golden ones,

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Speaker 3: just based on some of these players and obviously the

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Speaker 3: history the ownership. Look you, they haven't won in a

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Speaker 3: while we know it hasn't been great with Joe Shane

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Speaker 3: at the Helm, but ownership has always been really fair

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Speaker 3: to their head coaches, and while they're involved, they're not

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Speaker 3: hands on telling you what to do. They're just gonna

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Speaker 3: about ownership and quarterback this cycle, and it continues to

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Speaker 3: be as we have these openings. So John I think

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Speaker 3: brings accountability. He's going to bring vision, focus and really

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Speaker 3: an adult in the building. That is what someone there

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Speaker 3: get in New York. Yes, we joke that he's a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a football labberdoodle, but he also knows

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Speaker 4: And I think the New York Giants are very excited

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Speaker 4: to hand him the keys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be excited. I think they're close. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers we joked earlier like they feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: apps are. They don't look for coaches, they don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. They don't do this ever, and so

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Giants to know how to

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Speaker 1: let's get a coaching search. Pittsburgh doesn't do it. I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing Mike McCay and I'm thinking, well, he's a Pittsburgh guy.

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Speaker 1: It's an easy one. What are the Steelers at.

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Speaker 3: I made a joke during the Giants hardball situation. Someone

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Speaker 3: like they weren't getting it done. I'm like, don't they

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Speaker 6: Where Pittsburgh, you know, they're like looking an old files,

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Speaker 6: like how do you do this again? And look, here's

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Speaker 6: what I know from that ownership especially, they're going to

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Speaker 6: go with what they know right and what they're comfortable doing.

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Speaker 4: And look what they did with Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: They took a young, you know, black defensive coach with

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Speaker 3: tons of energy and they took a shot on him

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Speaker 3: and it worked pretty darn well, so yes, I can

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Speaker 3: see them gravitating towards a guy who's done it before

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Speaker 3: because it's comfortable. This isn't a fantastic roster. They don't

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Speaker 3: have a quarterback. This is one of the jobs that

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Speaker 3: I don't believe a lot of these coaches that are

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Speaker 4: Just because they're not. First of all, you got a

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Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily believe that that's the way the

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Speaker 3: franchise is seeing it. I don't think they think that this.

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Speaker 3: They're in rebuild, So you got to be able to

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Speaker 3: have someone to come in here.

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Speaker 4: And be able to communicate like, look, we have a

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Speaker 4: lot of work to do.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Weaver is the name I want you to watch.

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Speaker 3: I think he is somebody that both the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 3: and remember Anthony Weaver. He's the defensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 3: Miami Dolphin. He is a former raven himself. He's a

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Speaker 3: former coach for the Ravens. John Harbaugh overpassed him to

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Speaker 3: and I think he's got a really good shot of

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Speaker 3: He's the face of that place. If you don't have him,

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Speaker 4: Not he can pick right.

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Speaker 1: All right, Agent, there's.

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Speaker 4: So many openings, right, we could go we could have

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Speaker 3: They're all in, right, They're all in because they fired

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Speaker 4: Right, we got to get the most out of them.

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Speaker 3: So while I understand that you're bringing the leader of men,

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Speaker 1: All right, finally, AJ Brown drama. I've said I would

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Speaker 3: It works. It's a good match, right, because there's a

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Speaker 3: really this going back to last year, right, but it's different.

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Speaker 3: They won the Super Bowl. That kind of masks sold

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Speaker 4: And I think it's gonna be up to him. I

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Speaker 3: Line, Philadelphia is not stupid. They're not gonna waste their time.

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Speaker 3: They can't go through what they just did again. This

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Speaker 3: they're not moving on from Jalen Hurts. Right, So you're

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Speaker 3: You're picking the quarterback. That's just how it works. Plus

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Speaker 1: All Right, you're crushing. You're just all the time. I

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Speaker 1: see you with stories and crushing and intel and all

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Speaker 3: No, I like it, but I feel like sometimes when

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Speaker 4: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: This has been the wildest coaching cycle I have ever covered.

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Speaker 4: People. Everyone to talk everyone wants.

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Speaker 3: To talk to about it right now because there's so

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know if you guys saw this. Cody

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Speaker 1: World Series Champ MVP NLCSMVP just signed one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Where's the outrage?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 1: My got Cody Bellinger's just as good a player, if

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Speaker 1: is none, because you don't think the Yankees are well run.

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Speaker 1: They don't threaten you. The Dodgers have money and they win.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees have money. That's why this is just ridiculous. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker's signing terrible for baseball if ratings and revenue

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Speaker 1: the Cubs Yankees now have signed another pitcher and Cody Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: Good offseason for the Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers. If the Astros

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Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. They're good. And by the way, Seattle, Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee all doing very very well. Small markets. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear about Pittsburgh. They're irrelevant, they're billionaire owners, cheap.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about him. So but yeah, I said this,

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Speaker 1: I just ran it on this an hour ago. There's

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Speaker 1: over the top. But Cody Bellinger one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: two million, five years Yankees, that's okay. This guy's an MVP, guys,

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Speaker 1: an NLCS MVP. He's a World Series champ. He's got

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Speaker 1: a better resume than Kyle Tucker. Why aren't you bothered

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Speaker 1: by I think? Am I wrong on this? Because of

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Speaker 1: Game seven of the Blue Jays, nobody'd be outraged by

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker or very few. It's that they're winning, not

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Speaker 1: just the money. Again, Pool Hols Josh Hamilton in today's

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Speaker 1: dollars signed fifteen years ago, almost for five hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty million. Nobody cared why it's the Angels. Soto goes

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Speaker 1: to the Mets, Nobody cares why it's the Mets. You

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Speaker 1: just don't like that the Dodger sign him and then

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Speaker 1: hoist a trophy that's at the heart of it. As

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Speaker 1: the kids say, let's keep it one hundred. Jmack of

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Speaker 1: the News, turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news I heard.

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Speaker 10: I want to go to this Rams Seahawks showdown. Very

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Speaker 10: excited for the rubber match in Seattle this weekend. It's

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Speaker 10: on Fox, and Matt Stafford talked about the task at

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Speaker 10: hand with a Super Bowl trip at stake.

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Speaker 9: It's a huge challenge to go play in Seattle, we've

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Speaker 9: done it once this year, and what a hell of

449
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Speaker 9: a game that was. And you know, they got such

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Speaker 9: great players on their team, they really well coached. I'm

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Speaker 9: sure excited to be in this opportunity and be in

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Speaker 9: the situation to, you know, go see what we're all about.

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Speaker 9: Can we go into their play arguably the toughest place

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Speaker 9: to play in the league, a team that's played really

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Speaker 9: good football a year, and then find a way to

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Speaker 9: win it and uh, you know, continue this journey, because

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Speaker 9: that's what it's about at this point in the year.

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Speaker 9: Can we find a way to work together for another week?

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Speaker 9: And you know, we have the opportunity now, and it's

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Speaker 9: it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: How good is that gonna be? If you put those

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Speaker 1: two rosters together j Mack and did a Pro Bowl team,

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Speaker 1: you could have Stafford and Darnold to your quarterbacks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just look at the receivers, Pookah JSN, Davonte Adams, go

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Speaker 1: look at your defensive front. I mean, if you just

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Speaker 1: took the Rams and Seahawks and said we'll play the league,

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Speaker 1: we'll do you do your Pro Bowl, We'll do ours.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, you could compete your on

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Speaker 1: line you'd get like you know, you'd get Gray's Abel,

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Speaker 1: who's good. Rams have you know a couple of pieces

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Speaker 1: and the interior that are very good. Your on line

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be full of pro bowlers, but everything else you

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Speaker 1: could go toe to toe with almost everything. Take Seattle

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Speaker 1: secondary Rams receivers, I mean the backs would be Walker

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Speaker 1: Kyron Williams. I mean that these rosters are loaded.

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Speaker 10: Are you gonna do one of my favorite things where

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Speaker 10: you ranked the top ten players in the game. Okay,

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Speaker 10: I don't even know if Sam Donald's top ten in

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Speaker 10: this game.

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Speaker 5: I'm not even joking. It's loaded.

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Speaker 10: There's so much talent. Donald's good, but he's o all pro.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's fine. I don't think he's top ten,

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Speaker 10: but I'm sure you'll find a way to crowbar in.

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Speaker 10: Let me let me ask you something con So in

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Speaker 10: that second meeting Ram Seahawks, did you know that the

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Speaker 10: Rams did not punch until they were like nine minutes

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Speaker 10: left in the game. They went up and down the field,

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Speaker 10: did whatever they wanted, and that's when McVeigh made the

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Speaker 10: catastrophic mistake.

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Speaker 5: Let me dial it back, get a.

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Speaker 10: Little conservative milk clock, and then the punt return happens

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Speaker 10: at all.

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Speaker 5: Hell breaks loose, you know.

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Speaker 10: I tried to break down in quarters, like if they

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Speaker 10: saw a boxing match, the eight quarters that they faced,

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Speaker 10: and I think Seattle's only got one of the quarters,

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Speaker 10: and that would be the fourth quarter of the second meeting.

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Speaker 10: Otherwise it was it was even or Rams. Yeah, And

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Speaker 10: it's like.

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Speaker 1: The coaching, the skill players, the pass rushers, and it

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Speaker 1: just there's so many good players in this game, and

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Speaker 1: this is what we should have. Philadelphia's got the players,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the coaching.

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Speaker 10: One of the arguments I heard was the Rams peaked

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Speaker 10: right around this second meeting. The Seahawks are peaking now

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Speaker 10: and the Rams are kind of I don't know about

507
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Speaker 10: leaking oil.

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Speaker 5: They've only covered once in their last five games, and

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Speaker 5: that was Week eighteen against Caroline.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm gonna disagree. I think Chicago

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Speaker 1: peaked at the end of the year. I think that

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Speaker 1: win in Chicago is way more impressive than people think.

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Speaker 1: They needed. No turnovers, no penalty, no drop passes, and

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Speaker 1: they won in overtime. With McVeigh and Stafford, Chicago would

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Speaker 1: have beaten virtually everybody in football not named the Rams

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Speaker 1: and Seahawks. I think right now in the NFC today,

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Speaker 1: Chicago's the third best team, and I think it goes

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Speaker 1: Seattle Rams Bears. I think that you look at that

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Speaker 1: really well, Ben Jamis show you that. I mean, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's just got way out of course, the Rams won

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Speaker 1: their experience. Chicago was a really good football team they needed.

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Speaker 1: The Rams played a perfect game, no pedalies or drop

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Speaker 1: pathes in freezing weather.

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Speaker 10: You could say that, but Colin we both said it

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Speaker 10: on Monday, like McVeigh might have called his worst game

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Speaker 10: of the season. Well, they even criticized himself for his

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Speaker 10: run pass ratio through three quarters before realizing, oh.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 10: You know, I've got an awesome ground game with Kyrien Williams,

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Speaker 10: and oh, let me dust off Blake Korum. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 10: I'm complaining because I bet Blake Corum over props because

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Speaker 10: it was such a great matchup, and then he doesn't

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Speaker 10: get carries all the fourth quarter and he can't eclipse

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Speaker 10: his total. But it was a bizarre game plan. I

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Speaker 10: don't you know how sometimes you think overthink the room.

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Speaker 5: I feel like McVeigh might have done that against the Bears.

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Speaker 1: That's the downside to being smart. Smart smart people tend

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Speaker 1: to overthink stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 10: Colin, Listen, it's the off season almost you like hot takes.

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Speaker 10: This is about as good as it gets. So obviously

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Speaker 10: the Ravens have moved on from John Harbaugh. Well, you know,

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Speaker 10: the Raiders have the number one pick in the draft

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Speaker 10: in Fernando Mendoza. I feel like we speculated this a

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Speaker 10: couple weeks back. But there's a report that claims the Raiders,

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Speaker 10: sick and tired of losing, are looking for a big swing,

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Speaker 10: and they may say, hey, we got the number one pick,

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Speaker 10: do you want it? We want Lamar Jackson, And there

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Speaker 10: is some shatter about this. Now, Lamar has the brutal

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Speaker 10: cap hit right, seventy four million, I think it's number

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Speaker 10: one in the league, and he has two years left

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Speaker 10: on his deal.

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Speaker 5: He's looking for more money.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to move Max Crosby with that contract. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I should now that's I don't. First of all,

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Speaker 1: i'd feel bad for Lamar Jackson. That Raider o line

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Speaker 1: at the end of last year was a disaster.

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Speaker 5: Ravens O line ain't any great either.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was limit bombs are very good center

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Speaker 1: at LISTA.

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Speaker 10: Okay, that cancels out Colton Miller, who's an excellent left tackle.

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Speaker 10: So I think there's a bigger question here. So you know,

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Speaker 10: maybe we can ask Brady this next time he comes on.

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Speaker 10: But a lot of front offices they don't want to wait.

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Speaker 10: Everybody's impatient in society, whether it's movies, TV, sports.

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Speaker 5: But nobody has any patience.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Mendoza's not going to be a star colin instant, Jason,

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Speaker 10: It's going.

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Speaker 1: To take a couple zero of the top fifteen quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: paid quarterbacks in the leader in the playoffs. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: way to win super Bowls mostly is got a really

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Speaker 1: really super talented guy on a rookie deal. More, get

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Speaker 1: Darnold on a team friendly deal. So Lamar Jackson's too expensive,

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Speaker 1: so the Raiders would get him and have to give

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Speaker 1: up stuff to get him, and they wouldn't have the

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Speaker 1: draft capital to surround him with really good young free players.

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent agree, I'm with you.

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Speaker 10: My question is are the Raiders going to be disciplined

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Speaker 10: or are they going to say we've.

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Speaker 5: Been so bad, We've been so awful. We're in the

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Speaker 5: seller in this division.

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Speaker 1: He is a very disciplined Hue and Tom has influence.

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Speaker 1: So my guess is listen to Brady. If he has influence,

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Speaker 1: his his career can be defined by discipline. You have

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Speaker 1: to be disciplined to make this work. Bringing in a

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Speaker 1: guy that's worth a zillion dollars and giving up draft capital.

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Speaker 1: If you if you, it'd be one thing if I

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Speaker 1: could bring in Lamar like in a trade and and

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Speaker 1: and some way, you know, not have to give up

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Speaker 1: two ones of three of four. But if you bring

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Speaker 1: him in, you can't now pay Max Crosby, and now

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Speaker 1: I have to replace Max Crosby. Well I need multiple

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Speaker 1: draft picks. If that doesn't work, I agree, I totally agree.

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Speaker 10: Like people are saying, oh, the Jets should go after

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Speaker 10: Lamar or Kyler Murray, Like, no, I'm starting from scratch.

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Speaker 10: But again, we're in an impatient society. This owners, these owners, Colin,

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Speaker 10: they want to win. Now, Okay, we're seeing a lot

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Speaker 10: ten coaches got fired.

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Speaker 5: That's insane. So I would I would.

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Speaker 10: I would not be shocked if the Raiders DIDs on

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Speaker 10: the goofy here, but I'm with you, I ain't trading

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Speaker 10: that number one pick. Final stories to the NBA colin

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Speaker 10: where last night Jonathan Kuminga made a surprise appearance, but

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Speaker 10: only because Jimmy Butler's hurting out for the season.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, Kaminga and Kurage do not get along. He's really

608
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Speaker 5: in the doghouse.

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Speaker 10: And remember Kuminga requested a trade as recently as last week.

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Speaker 5: How about this one, Colin. This is how ugly it

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Speaker 5: is for Golden State.

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Speaker 10: Before last night's game, GM Mike Dunlevy addressed this trade

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Speaker 10: request that Jonathan Cominga made.

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Speaker 7: As far as the demand, I'm aware of that. I

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Speaker 7: think when you you know, in terms of demands, when

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Speaker 7: you make a demand, there needs to be demand on

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Speaker 7: the market. So we'll see where that unfolds. But heard

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Speaker 7: always with these guys, I tell him I'm willing to

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Speaker 7: work with them. You know, want to help people out,

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Speaker 7: whether that's JK or any player on a roster. So

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Speaker 7: we're good with you know, that's his wishes, trying to

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Speaker 7: figure that out, but we got to do it's best

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Speaker 7: for organization.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting old. I watched him play high school. His

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Speaker 1: dad was coach of the Blazers. He was a star

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Speaker 1: basketball player. I think at Jesuit High School. Great is that?

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Speaker 10: Is that the best way to be politically correct and

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Speaker 10: be like nobody.

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Speaker 5: I don't get the Kaminga A demand.

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Speaker 1: Kaminga could score twenty a game, I wouldn't remember any

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Speaker 1: of the baskets. He's a long athletic guy. Long history

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Speaker 1: in the NBA of guys who can fill get you

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Speaker 1: buckets but don't necessarily win you games or matter. I've

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Speaker 1: covered them before. Kminga is a really long athletic guy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't remember you know, do you remember his baskets.

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Speaker 1: I've covered guys where you remember. It feels like a

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Speaker 1: lot of their big baskets, like like you know him,

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Speaker 1: I know him. You can remember Jordan's big shots or

639
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Speaker 1: Kobe's big shots. You can remember the Lebron's great moments.

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Speaker 1: Kaminga is just a really long athlete. And and again,

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Speaker 1: if you think you're gonna build around Kaminga, I mean

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Speaker 1: if they I don't know. I've just my takes always

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Speaker 1: been half after four years in the league with a

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Speaker 1: really smart coach and a smart superstar, I mean Draymon,

645
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Speaker 1: Kerr and Curry are hoping he would be a star.

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Speaker 1: They're not rooting against him. They were like Jordan Poole.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work. They didn't like him. If kerk Curry

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Speaker 1: and Draymond, these are high functioning NBA guys. They wish

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Speaker 1: Kuminga scored eighteen a game and the points mattered. He'll

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Speaker 1: score twenty four and they won't feel like they mattered.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't want to beat up on players.

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Speaker 1: But if Kerr can't figure it out, he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: If Curry can't figure it out, if dramon Draymond has

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Speaker 1: loved a lot of his teammates, He's not a guy

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Speaker 1: that needs the ball in his hands. They want this

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Speaker 1: kaminga thing to work out, and it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's twenty three years old. He just turned twenty three.

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Speaker 5: We got it. We got to at least give him

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Speaker 5: a chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, field goal percentage three years in a row

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Speaker 1: gone down.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't fit with the Warriors, So why would they

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Speaker 5: sign him?

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Speaker 1: Why did they keep eight points better a game when

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play?

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Speaker 5: But why did they keep him?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't they move because there's no market for him?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you telling me you can't get anything.

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Speaker 1: For you can't get, yeah, anything, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: give him away. You put so much time into him,

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Speaker 1: there's no market for him.

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Speaker 10: It's weird how badly they bungled James Wiseman. Remember he

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Speaker 10: went second overall. I don't even know if he's in

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Speaker 10: the league.

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Speaker 1: It was a terrible draft. Don't blame him. It was

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Speaker 1: a terrible draft and they were in their championship window.

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Speaker 1: He was too young, he didn't have enough games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you enter the Warriors with Draymond and Stephan Kerr,

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Speaker 1: they're asking a lot of you, like Wiseman just he

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Speaker 1: didn't even be barely played five seven. What are you

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Speaker 1: play in college? He played it, almost played no games.

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Speaker 10: Man, This was like the Golden era Warriors with k

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Speaker 10: versus Lebron.

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Speaker 5: It's over. It stinks for the league. Man, I missed

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Speaker 5: these Warriors.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 5: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.

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Speaker 2: The Herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: We'll meet for a third time, for the third time.

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Speaker 1: Could it be the game of the year next?

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter nine am on Fox Sports Radio FS

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Speaker 2: one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 10: Tonight on FS one. It's a college hoops tripleheader. First

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Speaker 10: at sevent eastern, Xavier and Creighton face off in a

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Speaker 10: Big East showdown. Then in nine Cincinnati takes on top

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Speaker 10: ranked Arizona. At eleven, San Diego State battles Grand Canyon.

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Speaker 5: It's all tonight on FS one.

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Speaker 1: Got the under on that one? Or what? You're pretty good?

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Speaker 10: No action tonight in college basketball, but it's early. The

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Speaker 10: day is still young. No atmospheric river coming out west,

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Speaker 10: So I got some time.

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Speaker 1: If you're talented and you have the ride attitude, even

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Speaker 1: if your current circumstances stink, you will find your kingmaker.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold spent a lot of years in New York

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Speaker 1: and Carolina, and then he caught Kyle Shanahan and Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell's high. What did Andy Doframe say he found freedom

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Speaker 1: after five hundred yards of you know what? Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: went through that same kind of tunnel. Sam Darnold's a

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Speaker 1: good guy, never played the victim, kept improving, got along

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Speaker 1: with teammates, respectful the coaches. Same with Matt Stafford. Do

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Speaker 1: you know if Matt Stafford gets to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: he will have more playoff wins than the Detroit Lions franchise. Ever,

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Speaker 1: and Donald, with last Saturday's win, has more playoff wins

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Speaker 1: than the Jets in the last what fifteen years. So

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks a unique position. Stoicism matters, don't get too high,

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Speaker 1: don't get too low. And I would say Stafford stoic,

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Speaker 1: Donald Stowick both this year combined seven and one after losses.

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Speaker 1: They just don't get high, they just don't get low.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I love about football, it

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Speaker 1: builds character. Practice is hard. You're playing hurt by week three,

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Speaker 1: you're playing in terrible weather, and you don't think of

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Speaker 1: quarterback as like a physical position. But Justin Herbert was

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Speaker 1: hit one hundred and twenty nine times this year. And

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Speaker 1: I looked this morning at Matt Stafford's career injuries, knee injuries,

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Speaker 1: multiple shoulder injuries, multiple hand injuries, hernia, discs, back issues,

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Speaker 1: and concussions, and that's what we know about. But it's

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Speaker 1: also a mental game because only two people have to

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Speaker 1: show up to the podium winner lose every week. Head coach, quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Edge rusher, receiver can hide. So you've got

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Speaker 1: to be the guy, and you got to be stoic,

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Speaker 1: and you can't start fires and you can't complain. Stoicism

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Speaker 1: is a real gift. And I mean, I think when

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Speaker 1: I look at Stafford, he was thirteen years I mean

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got mad, he got mad at eye roll,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and Green Bay after a bad series. Stafford

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Speaker 1: had thirteen years of dealing with second tier stop, head down,

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Speaker 1: self improvement. Be the best teammate you can be. You'll

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Speaker 1: find your king maker. He found McVay and it's the

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Speaker 1: same thing with Donald. So I mean, I look at

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Speaker 1: these two. One took twelve years in Detroit, one five

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Speaker 1: five and a half years Carolina, and it's just impossible

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Speaker 1: to not root for Donald and Stafford. For me, here

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Speaker 1: was Sean McVay on facing once again the Seahawks defense

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Speaker 1: third time this year.

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Speaker 11: I give Mike and their coaching staff and John Schneider.

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Speaker 11: You know, they have vision for players that are these

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Speaker 11: jokers that allow you to basically be able to be

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Speaker 11: stout enough against the run but still really good in coverage,

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Speaker 11: you know, where a lot of the explosives come up.

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Speaker 11: They've got a vision for guys and they can be

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Speaker 11: stout against the run versus what they would say is

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Speaker 11: typically most people would just look at it and say

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Speaker 11: it's a lighter grouping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they just they don't miss on draft picks.

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Speaker 1: A lot of what Seattle does is because they have

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Speaker 1: a plan. A lot of what the Rams do is

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Speaker 1: because they have a plan. You're not just drafting players,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, you're drafting employees that fit into your culture.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's so important when you hire McVeigh and

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald very similar people, that you got to build

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Speaker 1: a culture. Oh, it's about building the roster. There's a

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Speaker 1: reason so many teams miss on draft picks. It's not

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Speaker 1: that the players aren't any good. They often leave and

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Speaker 1: go other places and fit you got. You got to

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Speaker 1: hire a CEO who can build a culture, and then

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Speaker 1: you you're drafting employees to fit into your culture. That's

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Speaker 1: what Vrabel gets in New England. They got like five

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Speaker 1: rookies making an impact in New England. If you gave

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Speaker 1: them the wrong coach, those five rookies wouldn't make that impact.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was not a very good draft last

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Speaker 1: year by left tackle standards, will Will Campbell was okay

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Speaker 1: by great like this year has I would imagine that

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Speaker 1: the two of the top left tackles this year are

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Speaker 1: like really high end prospects. Will campbell Is arms are

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Speaker 1: a little short for left tackle. He's good, but it

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Speaker 1: was not a very good draft last year, one of

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Speaker 1: the weaker I can remember. And yet the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: five guys, five rookies who actually are making an impact.

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Speaker 1: Why you're not just drafting players. You build a culture.

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Speaker 1: You draft employees who fit into your culture. That's why

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Speaker 1: so many good employees out there struggle at a company,

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Speaker 1: They go to a new company and they crush. Right.

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Speaker 1: We always want to blame the employee. You want to

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Speaker 1: blame the draft pick. I think if you put Keon

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Speaker 1: Coleman in the Rams, he would have been better as

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Speaker 1: a rookie than he was with the Bills. Or you

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Speaker 1: put it with Kyle Shanahan. Right, there's a reason that

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty, seventh rounder is a star in San Francisco

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Speaker 1: and Juwan Jennings was he a six or a seventh

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Speaker 1: rounder is a star in San Francisco. Why would that be?

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Speaker 1: It's the culture. We did this the other day with

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Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams have a left tackle, undrafted, Nate Lanman,

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, undrafted got him to Atlanta. The Rams have

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Speaker 1: more that are highly productive star players in the third, fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 1: sixth round in any other team in the league. Why,

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Speaker 1: Because you're not just drafting players, you have a culture.

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Speaker 1: You're drafting employees who fit into it. And so when

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Speaker 1: I when I watch these two, I see like smart

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Speaker 1: head coaches, really good gms that are really good at

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Speaker 1: drafting employees who fit perfectly into their plan. And we

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Speaker 1: did that graphic the other day with the Rams. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: How many really good undrafted left tackles have we ever had?

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Speaker 1: Not many? I mean, Pooka Nakua could be Offensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year category. Fifth rounder, Kyron Williams, fifth rounder,

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Speaker 1: they're tight ends. They got third, fourth, fifth round guys.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I had Diana Russini on top of

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Speaker 1: the last hour this hour, and we were asking her

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Speaker 1: about you know, Buffalo right now, there's a rumor that

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick could get it. I don't buy it. I

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Speaker 1: think Brian Dable to me, been there great. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen would choose him probably if he could. Here's

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Speaker 1: Diane on on the decision why they moved off Sean mcdermoy.

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Speaker 3: Look, they made a move because they know the window

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Speaker 3: is going to just get you know, tighter and tighter here,

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Speaker 3: and that's why they moved on from Sean. So patience

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Speaker 3: is already uh not something that they have, and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna want a coach.

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Speaker 4: To come in here.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna lean more towardson who's done it

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Speaker 3: and get this thing going because they're gonna want to

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Speaker 3: be in the Super Bowl next year.

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Speaker 1: So Harbaugh's off the market, Jeff Hafley's off the market,

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Speaker 1: Stefanski's off the market. Who else? Who else am I missing?

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Speaker 1: We got three guys off the market. Salah Robert Sala Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: He's off the market. And also remember this, so are

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Speaker 1: many of the best assistants. That's why hiring quickly matters.

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Speaker 1: There's only a finite number of great coordinators on the market,

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Speaker 1: so you want to be proven, you want to take

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Speaker 1: your time. But the Giants and the Falcons they got

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Speaker 1: a head start and everybody and then all it takes

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Speaker 1: is getting involved very quickly. I mean, that's why the

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Speaker 1: Giants didn't waste any time. They've done this several times.

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Speaker 1: You start waiting, you become the fifth sixth seventh team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody said that the Steelers are waiting for

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Speaker 1: Chris Shula. Okay. Oh, by the way, Mike McDaniel, this

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Speaker 1: is this official Chargers. It's official now, Yeah, Mike McDaniel, Justin, Herbert,

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Speaker 1: Lad mcconkee, Jim Harbaugh sounds like an AFC West champion. Mean,