1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? DJ? Bucky back with you. Moved the sticks? Buck? 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: How you doing, Bud Man, I'm good coming off that 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: crazy weekend, UH trying to reset, refocus, get ready for 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: a combination of All Star games and UH Championship games, 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: a f C NFC Championship game coming up to weekend. 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: So it's a lot like going on alright. Billion dollar question. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: When when is the mock up? I don't know. I mean, 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: you know how I feel about those things. Have you 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: turned in? Have you sent it in? It is sent in, 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: it has been submitted. It's coming, it's it's it's it's 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: coming sometimes soon. I don't know when. Yeah, it's about 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: to drop. It's gonna drop, all right. We gotta tease 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: that a little bit going forward. That might be something 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: that you can get into on Thursday as well with 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: with htt I'm gonna be out Thursday, UM, but it's 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna be you and Rhet actually gonna have Erk galcoh. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Look at a little bit. What's going on with this 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: East West Shrine game coming up? UM, so you can 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that in the next episode, 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: We've got some fun stuff to cover today in terms of, uh, 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: these championship games, some different layers to it. What we're thinking, um, 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: looking at some of the rosters of these four teams 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: and what can we learn and maybe maybe some trends 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: going forward. We always talked about this being a copycat league, 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: and um, I think teams look at the successful ones, 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: and we've got four really kind of intriguing teams and 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: how they were built. Um. When we look at these 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: four squads, Buck, I mean, uh, one thing that stood 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: out to me just you've got three of them kind 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: of from the same family, right, Um, and then you 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: can kind of trace them all back to the forty 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Niners in some way when you think about Mike Shanahan 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: and then down to Kyle and Sean and Zach Taylor, Um, 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of all coming from that side. And then you've 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: also got obviously Andy Reid, um, who goes, you know, 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: all the way back to your time there with the Packers, 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: which was an offshoot of what you had coming over 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: with Mike Holmgren from the forty Niners. So it's kind 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: of all roads kind of lead traveled back to the 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: unbelievable forty Niner teams and starting with Bill Walsh and 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of going from there. Yeah, it's um, it's so 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: funny to see how these guys have been able to 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: do it. Um, how the tree has continued to kind 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: of take shape in the National Football League. Uh, this 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: tree is weird because I guess it's the Mike Shanahan tree, 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: but really it feels like the Kyle Shanahan tree. But 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: you have a lot of guys that have taken this offense, 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: this scheme and it really kind of made it their own. Uh. 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: The way Kyle Shanahan runs his offense is different in 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: the way Sean McVeigh runs his offense, which is different 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: than even the way that Zach Taylor runs his version 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: of the offense. But it is one where it's very productive. 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: It appears to be very quarterback friendly because you look 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: at the numbers of the quarterbacks and putting up you 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: can't really knock it. And then it's also one that 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: is adaptable to the playmakers that you're having. So we've 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: talked about it. If we were hiring, we would prefer 59 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: this system to be the system of choice because it 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: does make the game appear to be very very easy 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. And it's also another way that really 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: showcase your star players, because each of these teams have 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: star players and they all are fit the ball the time. 64 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: All Right. I want to look through a couple of 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: different things here, um because I think there's gonna be 66 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: so much attention on the quarterbacks and who the quarterbacks 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: are in these final four games, and the storylines. I 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are gonna hit that, and 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Stafford things fasting. We're gonna get to 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe you know, the the acquisition of Stafford and how 71 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: that could lead to uh some things, some dominoes here 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: in the off season. We'll get to that in a 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: little bit. But I want to start with a couple 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: of questions here because I think when you're trying to 75 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: find what makes these teams special, what makes these teams unique, 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: you go beyond the quarterbacks, go beyond the head coaches, 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: who are all you know, play callers here. But you know, 78 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Master Tested is a great job man. His Untold Stories 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: series is fantastic. If you get a chance to see that, 80 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: um go, I encourage you to go follow him on 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: social media and watch those their outstanding. But he he 82 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: posted something on Twitter earlier this morning. I kind of 83 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: caught my because he talked about the four premiere receivers 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: that are left. You look at Cooper Cup, Deebo, Samuel 85 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Tyreek hill uh In Jamaar Chase for these teams, like, 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: these teams all have premiere, premier weapons, all different skill sets, 87 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: but premiere guys. I would say, we think we would 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: all classify these guys as legit number one weapons. And 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: then I kind of thinking about that, Okay, we've got 90 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: the offensive weapon, Then who's the defensive difference maker up front? 91 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: And you look at the rams. You know, obviously Aaron 92 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Donald they end up bringing over Von Miller, but let's 93 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: start with a d. San Francisco has got Nick Bosa. 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Case Um has got the big man, Chris Jones. Cincinnati 95 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: brings over Trey Hendrickson, who has had a phenomenal season. 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: But these teams, we look at the quarterbacks, like the 97 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: head coaches, they also have a premiere weapon and they 98 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: have a premier pass rusher. I thought it was kind 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: of interesting when you kind of pull all those strings together. 100 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny to do because it's the same 101 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: thing that we've always talked about. We've talked about how 102 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: it is the quarterback in the pastors. I think that's 103 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: what the scenario that you presented back in the day, 104 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: and so look at it is. Look man, is true. 105 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: I think we add in playmakers, but if you have 106 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: a quarterback, a dominant pass rushing, you have a handful 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: of playmakers. Man, you can win a ton of games 108 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: and you can make your way to the um cusps 109 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: the precipice of being a Super Bowl UH finalists. And 110 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: so you know, I think for so many of us 111 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: as evaluators and team builders being able to look at 112 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: the way these teams are being constructed the level of 113 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: success that they have been because these teams not only succeeding, 114 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: they're dominating their respective divisions and they've done it for 115 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: a while, and so I just think you have to 116 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: just kind of look take in how these teams are 117 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: being constructed to see if you can do something similar 118 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: while still maintaining your philosophy of team builds. Do you 119 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: think that the fact that we've got four offensive head 120 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: coaches here in the final four, with all these head 121 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: coaching openings, these vacancies that we have to fill, do 122 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: you think that is an influence on those organizations that 123 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna lean more towards an offensive guy just from 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: the standpoint of not having to lose. Um, you know, 125 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the guy closest to your quarterback. Look. I think that 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: will be some of the conversation. And I think also 127 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: you will see the conversation skew towards the young, hip, energetic, 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: cool guy, because three or four are of that mold. 129 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: The only other one is any read. Um. So I 130 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: think teams are going to feel like they can lean 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: on guys with not as much experience and maybe make 132 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: it a more collaborative effort. What I worry and what 133 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm beginning to sense in a way, I worry about 134 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: the National Football League almost becoming like Baseball right where 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: sometimes and I'll talk about this from watching the Dodges, 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I look and I wanted if the decisions are 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: really Dave Roberts, if they come from up high, you know, 138 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to pulling. I do wonder, as we 139 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: get younger at the head coaching position, how much of 140 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: what is taking place on the field is more so 141 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: orchestrated by the general manager as opposed to the head coach. 142 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Some of that we've seen kind of come to light 143 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to Nikosario and what was really taking 144 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: place in Houston. Yeah, I mean I think it's interesting thought. 145 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, man, Kyle, Kyle kind of 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: brought in John Lynch, so I think Kyle probably you know, 147 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna nobody's gonna push him around. I think Sean 148 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and less with the Rams. I think Sean has a 149 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of juice there. Um uh So, I mean that's 150 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. Obviously, you know Andy Red doesn't 151 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: fell into that category as the older guy. Um. And 152 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: then Zach Taylor. Know, one of the things that I 153 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: hope everybody gives their front office, Duke Tobin and company 154 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: some some love here because this, you know, with the 155 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: commitment from ownership, which has been questioned at times, they 156 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: went out and bought a defense in one off season. 157 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean four or five key free agents that they 158 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: brought in, Like the Bengals don't historically do that stuff. Uh, 159 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: they were very aggressive and um, look it's paid off 160 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: for them to fix that side of the ball. Really 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: transformed that side of the ball in one offseason is 162 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: pretty cred bole DJ is one of the more remarkable 163 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: things that you will ever see like what they've been 164 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: able to do. Um, they were able to put the 165 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: young guys on the offense with the quarterback. I think 166 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: we talked about that. I know we had this conversation. 167 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I know I used this somewhere where we used to 168 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: talk about build up one side of the ball. Go 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: from being terrible to being adequate on one side of 170 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the ball while you're allocating a ton of dollars to 171 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: build up the other side. That's basically what the Beingles did. Offensively, 172 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: they are a homegrown unit. All of those guys that 173 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: we're seeing dominated on the perimeter or guys that were 174 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: drafted by them, Joe Mix and Tyler boyd Um. You 175 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: know you think about Tee Higgins, Jamaar Chase, They're they're 176 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: they're all homegrown. To Williams, yeah, yeah, every everything. But 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: then defensively, that is where they remarked their money. They 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to necessarily wait on the young guys to 179 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: development pop, so they went over paid for maybe Trey Hendrickson. 180 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: You know, they go and get a van, build the automate. 181 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Recently you have yeah, you have Eli Apple and so 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: you begin to look and see how they do it. 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: It's amazing but I heard Trey Henderson last night on 184 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Serious NFL Radio talk about the team and the culture 185 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: and those things, and he talked about how they're so 186 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: connected right now that they have kind of an obligation 187 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: to work hard because they know that everyone around him 188 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: is working hard. And it made me think maybe this 189 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: just isn't a one and done deal for the Bengals. 190 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they figured out some things that helped them out 191 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to being able to advance and really 192 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: get a great seat, um internment, do some of those 193 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: things so to be interesting see how this stuff continues 194 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: to kind of play out. Yeah, no doubt. Um. I 195 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: also think, you know, you kind of look at these 196 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: teams and I think, you know, we've talked about this 197 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: in the past, and bringing in the right veterans when 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: you have a young talent based bringing in the right guys, 199 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean the rams. You know, you go out and 200 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: you bring in a von Miller to add kind of 201 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: what already have here. That's a that's a huge addition. 202 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: I go back to the Kansas State Chief when they 203 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: brought on Tyron Matthew Um kind of the impact that 204 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: he's had on that defense. And you didn't play the 205 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: other day, but just the leadership to calm the ben 206 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: there done that kind of guy, Um, I think that's 207 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: a calming effect on on teams. Um So. I think 208 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of a fascinating look at bringing in those guys. 209 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Trent Williams obviously was a home run of all home 210 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: runs for San Francisco to bring him in. There is 211 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the best left tackle in the NFL. Um So. I 212 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: just think these teams have been calculated with how they've 213 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: gone out and got the right veterans through free agency. 214 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Talk about the quarterback situation Sanrancisco a little bit different. Um, 215 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: the offensive play callers, elite pass rushers like I don't 216 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: know that we've ever had a Final four. We have 217 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: more in common, you know than this one. Buck No, 218 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't, DJ, I don't. I don't know if we've 219 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: had one either. And I think this was so fascinating 220 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: about it. I think the fascinating part about watching these 221 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: teams how quick the turnarounds have been. Uh you think 222 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati being which you pointed to, how do 223 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: Toldman deserves a lot of credit, But basically in three 224 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: years they flipped his team, um and made it one 225 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: of the best in the league. Uh you go, and 226 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: you just kind of look at the Niners and the 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: way the Niners are constructed, the homegrown talent built, how 228 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: they've been able to develop those guys and get them 229 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: ready and continue just kind of hanging there and show 230 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the faith that they have, Like that's tremendous. And you know, 231 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: I just look at the other teams like it's just 232 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: amazing what you're able to do in such a quick 233 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: turnaround that I think it makes it harder on this 234 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: next wave of coaches that go in. You're not gonna 235 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: be able to sell the ownership owner on Oh I 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: got a five year plan. I got a six year plan. 237 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Everyone's going on that instant oatmeal plan. Hey we one 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: in two years. I saw Joe Burrow go from this 239 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: team getting number one over U pick two years later 240 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: there maybe in the super Bowl. So get it fixed. 241 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Let's go, No doubt Patients is gonna wait here. Um, 242 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get to the Rams and how 243 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: that's going to impact this offseason. We're gonna to that 244 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: right after this, all right, buck Um. I mentioned it 245 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: at the top there, that trade for Stafford and the 246 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: trade for Jalen Ramsey home runs at home run positions, right, 247 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: impact positions, impact players, was still a lot of runway 248 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: left in their careers. Parting with the first round picks, 249 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: then you follow that up with the trade for Vaughan Miller, 250 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: which costs you two and h three. Um, they haven't 251 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: missed on these, you know, they just haven't. And you 252 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: can say, okay, well, maybe eventually you have to pay 253 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: the piper. This window is you know, you talk about windows, 254 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: it's open for the next several years here with with 255 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: this group, absolutely it's open. And dj to one thing 256 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: about going to get improven players, you know exactly where 257 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: they are, but you're also gonna have these real conversations 258 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: with them about what do they need to be at 259 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: their best and so um Semic Bayser, I mean, these 260 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: guys have certainly figured out how to play with this 261 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: star power um at a high level. And I think 262 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: the thing to me that's different about how they're doing it. 263 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you see people kind of collect a bunch of 264 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: stars and it doesn't look like a great product on 265 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: the field. That's not the case here. This team is 266 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: using everything that they have and they're being successful with it. 267 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: So it's another and a long lot of lessons that 268 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: evaluators will take from this season. I think one of 269 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: the keys is, um is position, right, you know who 270 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: who are you trading for? You know, It's one of 271 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: those lessons we kind of go back and look at 272 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Seattle and I know, you know, look, Jamal Adams a 273 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: good player, Um, but I just don't think your partner 274 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: with those types of assets for for a safety, Um, 275 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: you've got to be a premier player at a premier 276 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: position with runway left. I mean those are kind of 277 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the three qualifications in my mind. M yeah, yeah, Like, look, 278 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: it's tough and and I think safeties are still very 279 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: important and relevant, but it depends on the kind of 280 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: safety that you have. But how you want to play defensive? 281 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: Are you putting the impact the game? Uh? We kind 282 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: of to wax poetic about the the guy that is 283 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: able to just kind of freelance and do the things 284 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: on his own, but it takes a collaborative effort for 285 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: everyone to be able to do it and not bust 286 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: and give it these big plays. This is I mean, 287 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: this is one of those things. And so I just wondered, 288 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: from a positional value standpoint going forward, what's it gonna 289 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: look like, how much of people gonna really dive into 290 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the safety spot because I think there are a lot 291 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: of people that really don't know what safeties do. They 292 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: seem kind of parked in the parking lot. Uh. Fourth down, 293 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: they come out, they do the stuff to pumpatrying it 294 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: goes in and the way they go. So it's interesting. 295 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: I want to I want to get your thoughts go 296 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: outside this playoff pool because with the Stafford thing in mind, 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: I want to kind of see if you have a 298 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: team that you could say, man, if they were to 299 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: make the move. You know, when we've talked about Russell 300 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Wilson potentially being available, We'll see what happens with Aaron 301 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers in his situation, Um, Deshaun Watson. That whole thing 302 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: is kind of looming large around the league. You look 303 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: at that. So I'm looking get kind of non playoff 304 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: teams that if they could make that aggressive move, Um, 305 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: could could we could we see them in a conference 306 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: championship next year? And I'm gonna give you a couple 307 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: of them here. Um, but Indianapolis Colts I think put 308 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: themselves right in a championship game contention if they were 309 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: to get one of the premier, premier quarterbacks. Um. I 310 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: think you you look at the Denver Broncos, I think 311 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: could put themselves right in in an a f C 312 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: championship type situation if they were to do it. I 313 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: think when you look at the landscape of the NFC, 314 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: I put the Eagles in there. Um, I do. I 315 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: think you've got some really good pieces in place with 316 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line, the tight end, Um, you've got some 317 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: some some defensive lineman they can work where. I just 318 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: think the NFC so watered down they would have a 319 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: shot to be right there. Um gosh. I mean you 320 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of go through the list here, um and going 321 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: through the rest of them here, you know, I think 322 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: that's that's probably I would say that's probably it. I 323 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: don't they care line of Panthers, and they're kind of 324 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: in a weird spot with Sam Donald and they don't 325 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: have draft picks. Don't know if they could pull it off, 326 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: but I think that's a five and twelve team that 327 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: could flip it. You put a premier quarterback in there 328 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: with what they have some of those young studs on 329 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: defense that can go to twelve and five wouldn't shock 330 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: me at all. No. I can see if flipped really, 331 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, like really quickly. What about Washington? Washington is 332 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: another one? They are another one night. It's funny because 333 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: this is teasing mock draft. I have them taking your 334 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: quarterback in the mock draft. My second quarterback happens to 335 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: go to the Washington football team. My first one goes 336 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: within the top ten. Surprising, but the mock draft. But yeah, 337 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: the Washington football team. I do want to stylistically what 338 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: they want because when you look at the guys that 339 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: have played there, just in the Ron River, it's like 340 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: a Hodge podect guys that traditional pocket passes in Dwayne 341 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: Haskins um a bit of a wild child. When it 342 00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: comes to um Raphae Patrick. You have the underdog in 343 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Tyl the hank this's been Heinekes has been able to 344 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: kind of play well. I wonder in the situation where 345 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: Ron can really pick out what he wants, what does 346 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: it look like? Mm hmm. I guess I shouldn't by 347 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: the way I was saying non playoff teams. Eagles didn't 348 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but it was such a rapid exit 349 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: that I didn't consider them a playoff team. So I 350 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: apologize on that front, but but nonetheless I think this. 351 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: I think this has shown. I mean, and the Rams. Look, 352 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: the Rams are maybe a little different. They went to 353 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with the previous quarterback, so it wasn't 354 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: like they were not even a playoff team. And then 355 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: they add Matthew Stafford. They were a playoff team, a 356 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: good team, a good roster. Then than they upgraded at 357 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: the quarterback position and here here we are. Um. But 358 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I think that it's it's it's what I've been saying 359 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: for a while, which is, if you can get uh, 360 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, premier player, he gets you a seat at 361 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the table, you've got a chance to at least play 362 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: the game, you know, like you might not win the 363 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but you get it. You can sit down 364 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: and play right, you know, if you don't. You know, 365 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: there's only so many seats at the card table here 366 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: with with all these elite quarterbacks, so if you don't 367 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: have one, you can't get in the game. So I 368 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: don't know that you can overpay, and that's why people 369 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: freak out. Two first round picks, three first round picks. 370 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: Who cares? There's a quarterback, man like, you can get 371 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: one of those premier guys, and he's got some runway 372 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: left in his career. I don't know that you can't 373 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: over pay. I think that is very true, and I 374 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: think you have to know that the guy is the guy. 375 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: I also think that you have to set the bar really, 376 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: really high when we talk about those guys. There's areaIn 377 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: guys that you have to be willing to walk away from. Hey, man, 378 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: this is a little too rich for me. We're like, 379 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: we'll move on. Hey, I appreciate your efforts. We are 380 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: trying to find another one, but there are other guys 381 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: that you know that you can't find anybody that can 382 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: do that. I think this time period when it comes 383 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: to the quarterback is going to test the eye and 384 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: the nerve of scouts when it comes to standing on 385 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: the table and fully declaring who you with is one 386 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: of those things like back in Carolina, man, we used 387 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: to have these little bets on a man. Who's your guy? Okay, 388 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: well let's put it in the kidding and see, um, 389 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: where do you believe he goes? Where does he go? 390 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: And those things I think with these quarterbacks, because we're 391 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: getting so much great play from the young guys. DJ, 392 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: we we've said it. When you're evaluating the quarterbacks that 393 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: are coming out. Now, you have to look, if this 394 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: is a game in the playoffs and we're facing Josh Allen, 395 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: is my guy good enough to keep us in this fight? Mhm? 396 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: That's the game changing when you look at it in 397 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: Doo's harsh terms. Where are we gonna stack up in 398 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: the a f C If I'm an AFC team and 399 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: I know that I gotta deal with Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, 400 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: I got Justin Herbert, I got Lamar Jackson. I mean, 401 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: some people wanted to like Joe Burrow, I mean like 402 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow, like, I mean, like already I'm I'm 403 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a sixth hole already just starting out. 404 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean I'm at six at my best. So man, 405 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: So see if you're with me on this, because I 406 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: was thinking about this the other day, and I think 407 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: we've said similar things on the podcast over the years. 408 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: But this, this is why I firmly believe seventeen game 409 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: regular season it is about your floor. Postseason is about 410 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: your ceiling. There's a big difference, man. To me, Look, 411 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: look at the Tennessee Titans. The Tennessee Titans have a 412 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: high floor. You know what I'm saying that they are 413 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: a deep roster. They are tough, they're physical. They're gonna 414 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: be a tough They're gonna be a tough matchup in 415 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: the regular season each and every time. They're not gonna 416 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: have those lows. Right, it's a discipline, well coached team. Um, 417 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: you know who they are. You know they are. Remember 418 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: when we had John small Song did the nineteen nineties Braves. Yeah, 419 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna get in the tournament. Yeah, they the Tennessee 420 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: Titans of the ninet nineties at Lanta Braves. They're gonna 421 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: be good. They're pitching is gonna keep them in the game. 422 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: So their defense and they're running game, they're gonna be 423 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: always there. They're gonna rack up the regular season win tols. 424 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna run them up hundred wins here we go 425 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: because there's no cluckers, no clockers. They're they're not gonna 426 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: have anything. But now when his time in the postseason 427 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: tournament where your guy has to turn it up and 428 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: take your number one, who's your number one? That's the 429 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: thing you can beat people with what we call like 430 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: B pluses and all that other stuff, Like I don't 431 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: necessarily have an ace, but I gotta come beat got 432 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: like two or three B pluses, So we're gonna win games. 433 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: But in these games where you're facing a stud, who 434 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: are you throwing out there against the stud? And in 435 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: the a f C, it's tough. NFC is a little 436 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: different a f C though, good night, Yeah, well, I mean, 437 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look, even as as as great as Aaron 438 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Rodgers is, comparing Aaron Rodgers with these young A f 439 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: C quarterbacks, they have a club in their golf bag 440 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have. These guys rest they were first 441 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: almost seventy yards. They both led their teams in rushing. 442 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. Aaron Rodgers doesn't 443 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: have that club in his bag. Like that's just a 444 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: that's a that's a different level man. DJ. If we 445 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: had to rank him this weekend based on how they perform, 446 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: he's not in that conversation as we're talking about the 447 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: top guy. He's in the discussion and the guy he 448 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: played against, he's in the discussion, you know, in that game, 449 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: and he was closer. It's sad, it's crazy. He was 450 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 1: closer with his performance to Jimmy Garoppolo than he was 451 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: to Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in that game, and 452 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: I think, and I think that's the shocking thing. And 453 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I think, um, and this is why I say to 454 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: people like, why are you harping on? I said, man, 455 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: because we're about to have a discussion. Wee, we're gonna 456 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: talk about all these guys coming into the league, and 457 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna rank him and then we'll naturally romanticize about 458 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: him as we get closer to the draft, to Kenny 459 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Picketts and you know, Matt Correll and uh Malik Willis 460 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: Sam how like, don't but DJ, we have to look 461 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: at those guys to be like and never the nice players. 462 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: But man, that guy versus Josh Allen, that guy versus 463 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, that guy versus Justin Herbert, that guy versus 464 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: what are we doing? And so now when you hit 465 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: your wagon to the guy we said, oh we gonn 466 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: take them in the first one. It just it does 467 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: matter because you can't get another one that's your guy 468 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: for the next five years. So while these guys are 469 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: in their prime, that's what you're going to the gunfight with. 470 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: And so it's it's gonna have an impact. It's gonna 471 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: have an impact that I believe in terms of if 472 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: some of these big, you know, the veteran guys have 473 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: become available, teams will be aggressive to go do it. 474 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: And then I think it helps. I really think kind 475 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: of if you look at the draft group, I think 476 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: Malik Willis is gonna benefit from this a little bit 477 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: because you can look at you can look at the ceiling, 478 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: and we've been doing a look at the ceiling. We've 479 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: been We've been doing this for too long. Because here's 480 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: what here's what I was thinking, like in my head 481 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: when you were going through it, I was like, I'm 482 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: away from the finishing and I'm gonna say this. I 483 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: gotta change the way that I look at them because 484 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: before I didn't talk about tools like in baseball, so 485 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about being a five tool player. I 486 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: didn't talk about them being big, fast, athletic, like I 487 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, you look, quarterback doesn't have to 488 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: that like armtap arm strength doesn't matter, like I just 489 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: need a smart guy that can do this or whatever. 490 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: And in the regular season, Yeah, until you see Josh 491 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Allen on fourth and thirteen rip a dime on a 492 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: dino like that is on a rope where you just like, 493 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: oh my God, until you see Patrick Mahomes make two 494 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: throws that you're like, dang, until you see Matt through 495 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Stafford get stroked against cover zero and drop a tear 496 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: drop to Cooper Cup for sixty four yard. I mean, buck, 497 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: I had a front row seat for the last game 498 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: of the regular season, and I saw Justin Herbert on 499 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: fourth and through fire its twenty three yard touchdown and 500 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: made it look easy. Like That's what I'm saying, Like 501 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: like a team like that, they're not in the playoffs, 502 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: but at least at least you go to bed going 503 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: like we're in the we're in the fight now. I 504 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: got that piece taking care now, DJ So Now the tools, 505 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: the tools matter more before we talked about like hey, 506 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: acre and decision. It's about accrecy and decision, mates, Yeah, 507 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: kind of. But you better have some You better have 508 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: the ability to generate some RPMs because if we're playing 509 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: in cold weather, whatever it is I want to get 510 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: it is weatherproof. Hey man, it's a monsoon day, Okay, 511 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: all right, Hey, it's fourth and fifteen seasons on the line. 512 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Go make a play. Josh Allen is running high school 513 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: quarterback sweeps on like third and eight. That's what I'm saying, 514 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: It's like it was like a high school. It's like, 515 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: did you put your best athlete at quarterback and go 516 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: and running through tackles. I'm looking at the end of 517 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: plays and I see can see the Chiefs defenders doubled 518 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: over because they had to tackle the quarterback and so 519 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: different animal. Hey, it is a different animal, and so like, look, 520 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna be some nice stories and give me some 521 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: things that can preach, like, oh man, he's a really 522 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: good college quarterback. He look, he can he can play 523 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: in the league. I don't know if I can win 524 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: a super Bowl with I can win a super Bowl 525 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: with him, But can I win a super Bowl because 526 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: of him? Yes? Yeah, But I also think it's a 527 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: good it's a good h Another reason to look back 528 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: at the Rams, because the Rams what they did is 529 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: they had Jared Goff when they got there, right when 530 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: when Sean McVeigh arrived, and hey, there's no immediate upgrade. 531 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: You don't you don't just you don't just cut it. 532 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: You don't just move on from a guy without having 533 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: a better, better replacement out there. So they could have said, well, 534 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's not a super Bowl winning quarterback, So let's 535 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: just move on from him and let's try another guy 536 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: out and see if he's a super Bowl winning quarterback. 537 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: They said, no, No No, we're gonna continue to build the 538 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: rest of our team, adding assets and resources and build 539 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: this whole team. And then it's like, Okay, we have 540 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go get one that we already know 541 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: is that guy. Push your chips in and make it happen. 542 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: Go get him. And that's what they did with Matthew Stafford. 543 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: But they didn't just they didn't just say he's not 544 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: good enough. Out with him, Let's try somebody else. They said, 545 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: he's the best we have right now. So we're gonna 546 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: work with what we have right now, and we're gonna 547 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: keep looking to either draft, free agency, trade. If we 548 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: can get that the dude, then we'll push all of 549 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: our chips in. We'll we'll go try and make that happen. Okay. 550 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: So then that brings me full circle back to the 551 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Championship Round and the San Francisco fort because I think 552 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: what we on the outside have to get comfortable with. 553 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who my quarterback is. I'm always looking 554 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: for the guy. Even if I have a guy Hey man, 555 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: I like Jimmy Garofolo. Hey, Jimmy Garoffolo. We are we 556 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: got a winning percentage when we have you. Guess what, 557 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: The draft gives up an opportunity to potentially get an upgrade. 558 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: My obligation and duty is to build a team that 559 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: is built to last. And if it's built to last, 560 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: it means we have a quarterback that can stand right 561 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: center stage with all of those dudes and go toe 562 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: to toe. So I'm going to keep bringing these guys 563 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: in because that's my obligation, that's my duty as a 564 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: team builder. And hey, everyone has to be okay with it. 565 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: Everyone in the building has to be okay. It makes 566 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, I'm sorry about that, but my job is 567 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that we do it. If you're good enough, 568 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: you keep playing. Yeah, that's what happened. What happened Once 569 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: you slip, next guy goes. And I think that's the 570 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: thing because so many, so many of the conversations are, yeah, 571 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: but why would you go get another quarterback? Because you 572 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: have to because you're always on the hunt, chasing the ceiling. 573 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I am chasing the ceiling. That's like I'm chasing I'm 574 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: chasing greatness. I won't rate at that position. I don't 575 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: want uh, I don't want good, I want great at 576 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: that position. And I have to be willing to gamble 577 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: on that, like, yeah, you know, I'm looking to upgrade it. 578 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: You know what, um I was thinking about what this 579 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: Fort and Irons team. They already have Trey Lance, right, 580 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: and if we can make that comparison to the to 581 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which is what we've kind of done with 582 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: how they've used it, how they used this situation right, 583 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is Alex Smith is good. We're not saying 584 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is bad. Alex Smith is good, but we 585 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: think my homes gives us a little more upside. But 586 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: my homes, we're gonna take our time. We're gonna make 587 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: sure he's ready. Now. Imagine though, if that last year 588 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: of Alex Smith they win the Super Bowl. I still 589 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: think that everybody in the building at that place at 590 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: that time, new Patrick, we just want the Super Bowl 591 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: that Patrick Holmes is going to give us even more 592 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: than what we have. I still think any ree would 593 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: have had the courage to say, Okay, we're gonna we're 594 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna sell high on on Alex Smith and we're gonna 595 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: go get even better at the position, always trying to 596 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: get better, even if you just won the Super Bowl. 597 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: And I think that even if the forty nine is 598 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: with the way they're kind of winning games, which is 599 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: not quarterback dependent or quarterback driven at all, they could 600 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: go win the super Bowl this year. And I still 601 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: think if Trey Lance makes the progress that they hope 602 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: he's going to make, I could see them saying, Jimmy, 603 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: you know you did a great job. We're gonna sell high. 604 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna recoup some of the picks that we had 605 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: to trade to get Tray Lance, and we're gonna hand 606 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: it off to him because now this offense can go 607 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: to an even better place. It can go to an 608 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: even better place. And that's why, DJ we have to 609 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: ignore the money and how many resources and assets are 610 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: allocated to the quarterback position. If everyone in the world 611 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: is in agreement that the quarterback is the most important position, 612 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: why would I not devote make it work to it? 613 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Why Why would Oh, but you're paying him thirty minute? Okay, 614 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: why would you draft one? Because it's the most important position. 615 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm always great at it. 616 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: That's why, Like, because that's what it is when we 617 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: are in the business of building a championship team, because 618 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: that's what we do. We just want to build a 619 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: good team. You want to build a championship team. If 620 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: we're in that business, then we want to make sure 621 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: that it's a very competitive environment. And I know a 622 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of times we talked about like, hey, we have 623 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: to treat the quarterback differently. Yeah, we do, but it 624 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: still doesn't prevent us from bringing in competition because I 625 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: would say that Trey Lance's arrival maybe it made Jimmy 626 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Garoppolot better because now he has someone in the room. 627 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Because look, the one thing that we know is when 628 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: we're on the practice field, Hey, DJ, you go fucking 629 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: you go, DJ, you throw okay, but you throw Hey man, different, 630 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: DJ spinning it today. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, 631 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: I gotta greece something hose. That competitive nature can make 632 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: it better. And then at some point you get down 633 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: the line where you have to make a hard decision. 634 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're ready. Now, we're ready to move on. Hey, 635 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. You've done a great job for us. 636 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: What DJ, remember this, and I think people have to 637 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: understand this. The San Francisco forty Niners traded Joe Montana, 638 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: who want four Super Bowls for Steve Young. Like, just 639 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: think about that, Bill Wallace. It's a great car. Joe Montana, 640 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: who at the time before time was the goat. Hey, man, 641 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: you know I got this guy here to us to 642 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: get him ready. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You always 643 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: chase the ceiling. You chase the ceiling as good as 644 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: you are at that position. Hall of Fame. Good if 645 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: we got somebody better, Hey, next guy's gotta go. He 646 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: takes us to a different level. And it's kind of ironic, right, 647 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: because it's somewhat similar in that I'm not comparing these 648 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: as players talk about Hall of famers. But you had 649 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: Joe Montana, traditional he could he was a good athlete. 650 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: But Steve Young was another and it is an athlete 651 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: and could take that offense to a new place. I 652 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: could see the Niners where they are, even though they're 653 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: winning like crazy, with Jimmy Garoppolo saying this is great, 654 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: But man, we can take this to a whole another 655 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: level once we get trade Lance ready, once he's ready 656 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: to go, right, And I'm saying this like it doesn't 657 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: even have to start. Next year. Yeah, I think if 658 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: you're the San Francisco forty nine is I think one 659 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: of the things that you do with the cap is 660 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: make sure, like, hey, here's what we need to do. 661 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: We need to always be in a position if we 662 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: need to carry both of them. Let's make sure we 663 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: can carry both them. So maybe we have to get 664 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: somewhere else, all right, and then maybe they win it. 665 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy g come back. He will let you run it 666 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: for a little bit. It gives us more time to 667 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: develop the other guy that we feel like it's gonna 668 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: take us to an even higher place. I mean, I 669 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: think there's something to be said for it, and I 670 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: don't think enough people talk about that part of what 671 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: happened in San Francisco, because when I was with coach 672 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: Holmgren in Green Bay, one of the things that he 673 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: was committed to doing every other year, they're bringing a 674 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: quarterback in DJ. I can't tell you the amount of 675 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback that came through the Jim McMahon came through 676 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: the like they were always bringing dudes in. At one 677 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: point they developed like Mark Brunelle and Tyd Demer and 678 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: all these guys coming through. Because we're always we're always 679 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: looking to upgrade, We're always looking to turn it over 680 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: see if we can be the best that we can 681 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: be at that position. It has to be that. Mm hmm. 682 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a great it's a great discussions. Fun point. Um, Okay, 683 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break here, we'll come back 684 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: and wrap this podcast up. All right, Buck, this is 685 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: a fun one today. Man. What what do you got 686 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: working on? What's coming up? What can everybody on the 687 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: lookout for. I know we've got the mock draft. It's 688 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna be out probably as people are are listening to 689 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: this right now. Yeah, so to my draft is coming up. 690 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: So we're gonna take care of all of that. And 691 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: then this weekend in the notebook we're just gonna talk 692 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: about the championship around. What I'm doing is ranking the offense, 693 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: defensive special teams of the four remaining parties in the 694 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: championship games, and we're just gonna see where it stacks up. 695 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: But essentially one point, Um, I thought it was funny 696 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: because we got the text about Matt Lafleur acknowledging that 697 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: he noticed that the San Francisco forty Niners had starters 698 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: on special teams. I saw that. So so let me 699 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: say this, based on your experience in Baltimore, are you 700 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: surprised that the forty nine has had starters on special teams? 701 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: Is that a revelation to you? No, okay, because I 702 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: was sitting there, Like I mean, most good teams put 703 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: their guys on special teams. It is not a place 704 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: where you just put the others out there, um, going 705 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: all the way back like I wrote into like Bill 706 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: Parcels and those guys, it was mandatory that you played one, 707 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: maybe two special teams. Typically your defense, you're starting defense 708 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: was the punt cover team. Like you just line it up. Hey, 709 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: give me the line linebackers of the guards and tackles. Um, 710 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: your safeties are the wings, your corners are the gunners. 711 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: Your free safety is a personal protector. Let's go play. 712 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: That's typically how it is done. And so when you 713 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: think about if I put starting caliber players on the 714 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: field and special teams and you don't have starters, you 715 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: have backups, I have a talent advantage. And maybe that 716 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: is why we saw the things play out in the game. 717 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel return and get kickoff for fifty yards, Tyreek 718 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Hill returning your punt for fifty yards DJ. When we're 719 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: in the tournament, it's a winner go home, man, I 720 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: understand sometimes in the regular season, in the playoffs, yeah, whatever, 721 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: whatever we gotta do, we gotta do. Like, hey, I 722 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: need I need all the guys back there. That's why 723 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised for the RAMS. I wouldn't be 724 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: surprised to see Cooper Cup or really Odell Beckham Jr. 725 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: Go back to return and punt. Yeah, it's a weapon 726 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: us your best players. It's a weapon. There's only so 727 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: many players in the game. So why give one away? 728 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't want to give one away. It's 729 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: another play. Yeah. And you know, if you really treat 730 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: it like it's one third one third, one third, why 731 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: would you skimp on the third desk to kicking you 732 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. Well that's a lesson. I think 733 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers thought everybody in the NFL. I mean, 734 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: that's a very that's a very expressive. Yes it was, Yes, 735 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: it was expensive lesson. Indeed, did you hear that they 736 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: weren't even trying to block the punt? He just that 737 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: was got back there. It wasn't a pump block. He 738 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: just got back. It was a pump. He just overwhelmed 739 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: the log snapper and blocked the punt. Yeah, you can 740 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: you losing that quick? Yeah, that's brutal. That's a tough one. Portnobill, Portnobill. 741 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: We you know, we've been nice in the bill though. 742 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: We haven't given him any grief on that. But anyways, 743 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: him and Packer, all the Packer fans everywhere, Um, we apologize. 744 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: It's okay, It'll be all right. You're you're only gonna 745 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: lose a Hall of Fame quarterback in the obviouson. Don't 746 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: want it bad. It's gonna be fun, all right. Anyways, 747 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. Appreciate you guys 748 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: hanging with us. Be sure to look for Bucky's mock draft. 749 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: I got his notebook. He's got some great stuff coming 750 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: That is NFL dot com slash Bucky Brooks. You can 751 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: find it all right there. Um and again Thursday, we'll 752 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: have a little look ahead at the East West Shrine Game. 753 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Next week, I'll be at the recent Senior Bowls, so 754 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna have content coming from these all star games. 755 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: Buddy Ret's gonna jump in with us as well, so uh, look, 756 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: forward to those episodes. Cannot wait, all right, great weekend 757 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: of football coming. Uh, cannot wait to discuss it more. 758 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: And we'll do that with you here in a couple 759 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: of days. Right here, I'll move the sticks.