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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll have.
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Speaker 2: Matt the NFL Network, NFL dot Com releasing this is
Speaker 2: something that I always think is fun to kick around
Speaker 2: in the summertime. They're all under twenty five team, so basically,
Speaker 2: you know, the best team you can make with guys
Speaker 2: under the age of twenty five, some of the youngest
Speaker 2: players in the league. Who's the best of the youth
Speaker 2: movement right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah. So ESPN, through Aaron Shats, who we often reference,
Speaker 3: do this every year as well, but he does it differently.
Speaker 3: He ranks every team from one to thirty two in
Speaker 3: terms of their talent twenty five and under. So I
Speaker 3: wanted to run something by you on this too. Is
Speaker 3: usually I mean, obviously you want to be on those lists,
Speaker 3: you know, like, boy, we got a great young talent base.
Speaker 3: Good to have, you know. Now there it is sort
Speaker 3: of an arbitrary number. Why do we pick twenty five?
Speaker 3: Why don't we pick twenty six while we picked twenty four?
Speaker 3: Who knows? But I mean it's round number fine, and
Speaker 3: you have to pick a cutoff date. We're going to
Speaker 3: do it for the day the regular season opens, is
Speaker 3: it from right now? And sometimes it's like, well, Penney
Speaker 3: Seel is twenty five and two days, so he doesn't fit,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, so there's always somebody that's right under,
Speaker 3: right over that can mislead you a little bit, because
Speaker 3: I think when I read to the ESPN one, the
Speaker 3: Steelers are pretty low. They were like twenty seventh in
Speaker 3: terms of under twenty five talent because I think like
Speaker 3: three of their stars it might have been like Fraser Porter,
Speaker 3: like just edged.
Speaker 2: Out the cut.
Speaker 3: So it can be a little misleading, but I wanted
Speaker 3: to mention this to you too. The draft has changed dramatically.
Speaker 3: Under twenty five might just be like rookie second year,
Speaker 3: right right right. It doesn't mean like they're even that
Speaker 3: well established. You know, some of these guys have come
Speaker 3: out so late.
Speaker 2: For a while, when the vast majority of the guys
Speaker 2: were coming out at twenty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think twenty five was a good cutoff point
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now you'd get the jujus that couldn't even like
Speaker 3: drink yet when he got the camp. But that twenty
Speaker 3: two to twenty one was like the average.
Speaker 2: Maybe now this should be like an under twenty six
Speaker 2: or a twenty five and under instead of an under
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 3: But it certainly influences the last couple classes to mesidor
Speaker 3: might never.
Speaker 2: Be eligible for this way, you know, good Lord Tyler
Speaker 2: Shuck never eligible, was never eligible, right. This age represents
Speaker 2: how old the players will be on September ninth, the
Speaker 2: day that the season kicks off. On that Bekeds Day.
Speaker 3: They have to pick a day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterback Drake May who will turn twenty four here
Speaker 2: in just about a month.
Speaker 3: I think on the ESPN list, the Patriots were first
Speaker 3: or second mostly. I mean the Bears are high because
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and if you've a quarterback that fits here,
Speaker 3: it should carry tons and tons of weight, especially the
Speaker 3: year that made us had great.
Speaker 2: It's nuts that both of these guys are still only
Speaker 2: twenty four years old. Two running backs, Bijeon Robinson and
Speaker 2: jamieer Gibbson, they still are This might be the top
Speaker 2: two running backs in the league.
Speaker 3: They are like in the fantasy world, they're the first
Speaker 3: two picks, you know, consensus. They are I think the
Speaker 3: two best running backs in the league, two most valuable
Speaker 3: especially if you factor in you know, age and wear
Speaker 3: and tear in their bodies, which isn't much at this point.
Speaker 3: I've teased it, but I started fiddling with Matt stats,
Speaker 3: and you know, like my Bijeon bullet point is way
Speaker 3: more impressive. I even thought, you know, like I knew
Speaker 3: he's one of the best prospects I've ever seen, lived
Speaker 3: up to all that in Atlanta. But you start matching
Speaker 3: his first years against there as good as basically any
Speaker 3: running back INFL history that they've come in the league, and.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been in a very good situation.
Speaker 3: No, and Gibbs is obviously split some time with Montgomery,
Speaker 3: but I mean he's been basically everybody's good.
Speaker 2: Gibbs won't turn twenty five until March. Wow, we'll have
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in the combine in the books before
Speaker 2: he even turns twenty five. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Back to our previous conversation about draft stuff, I do
Speaker 3: think it's safe to say that running backs will always
Speaker 3: qualify here. I mean, they're not going to take the
Speaker 3: extra year pounding just to hang it out as.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely not. They want to get to the league
Speaker 2: and have the longest shelf.
Speaker 3: Life possibly get that second contract.
Speaker 2: Nuts that he's on this list, Matt when he just
Speaker 2: won Offensive Player of the Year and had an all
Speaker 2: time great season. Jackson Smith and Jigba is still just
Speaker 2: twenty four. He doesn't turn twenty five until February.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Crazy and Ted McMillan, the other wide receiver heading into
Speaker 2: his sophomore season out of Caroline.
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year, I mean, a really good season.
Speaker 3: I think he'll move him around a lot more, kind
Speaker 3: of like the Smith and Jigma. Smith and Jigma was
Speaker 3: often slot mostly almost slot only, never lined up in
Speaker 3: the slot. I think he's going to start doing a
Speaker 3: lot more things.
Speaker 2: The Offensive Player of the Year and the Offensive Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year your two wide receivers there. Tight end,
Speaker 2: we just talked about him. I think this is a
Speaker 2: pretty easy It's brock Bauers still just twenty three years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's as easy as they come.
Speaker 3: I think he's clearly the best player at his position,
Speaker 3: and he'll probably be on next year. You know, he's
Speaker 3: still got he's that young. He came out. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know he played as a true freshman at Georgia.
Speaker 3: I think he just played three years out.
Speaker 2: The true way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wa he used to be back in the day, Bud.
Speaker 2: And then they have a flex here Matt, where they
Speaker 2: could have gone running back or wide receiver, they go
Speaker 2: with the von A Chain, the running back of the Dolphins,
Speaker 2: who is still also just twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: I think he's noticeably behind Gibbs and Robinson, especially for
Speaker 3: an every down player, but I mean he's still highly
Speaker 3: effective and the Dolphins invested in him.
Speaker 2: Here's the offensive line, uh, starting on the left side,
Speaker 2: offensive tackle Joe Alt still just twenty three years old.
Speaker 2: He deserves that obviously needs to return from that injury.
Speaker 2: And the last we saw of him when he was healthy,
Speaker 2: he was outstanding.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine him not having a great career.
Speaker 2: And right tackle is Josh Simmons from Kansas City, another
Speaker 2: guy who was who had some some injury stuff last year,
Speaker 2: but he's just twenty three years old as well.
Speaker 3: He's also a left tackle. But I guess they're doing tackles.
Speaker 2: Right, They're just kind of doing tackles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very impressive. He just needs to clean
Speaker 3: some things up off the field in consistency and injury stuff.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Two guards, Tyler Booker of the Cowboys, just twenty two
Speaker 2: years old, and Gray's Abel twenty four years old of
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seas.
Speaker 3: Both rookies last year as well with Simmons. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a good pair of guards, really different. Zabel's much more
Speaker 3: over mover and athlete, Booker's and old time that you
Speaker 3: run behind on fourth downd guy mash Er, wide body,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And Zabel had an outstanding year last year.
Speaker 3: He really was really really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the center from the Colts Tanner Bortanelli twenty
Speaker 2: four years boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess Fraser's over.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 3: I remember to have that ESPN thing.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, he just turned twenty five.
Speaker 3: A couple just aged out. I'm fine with it, yea.
Speaker 3: But I mean he's not a top seven or eight center.
Speaker 3: He's been a pleasant surprise, but I guess the league
Speaker 3: is not. Really It's another position. You're not going to
Speaker 3: come in the league super old either, but you're also
Speaker 3: not going to come in as a three year starter either.
Speaker 3: That's pretty rare. There hasn't been a great influx of
Speaker 3: young the last year or two at the center position.
Speaker 3: I can think of Linderbaum's over.
Speaker 2: I think like you know Graham Barton and Zach Frasier
Speaker 2: are aren't eligible for this list just by missing the
Speaker 2: cut off by a few months. So that's the offense
Speaker 2: Matt defensive side of the football. Two edge rushers, one
Speaker 2: of them of this parish, Nick Kerbick, twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean another reason to invest in them. He's
Speaker 3: that young, right, I'm a little shocked that he made
Speaker 3: the cut, but I mean it's I guess the league
Speaker 3: isn't super rich with under twenty fi.
Speaker 2: They've been looking for those next great edg Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Will Anderson's a little too old, you know,
Speaker 3: things like that. I assume he's not one of them, right.
Speaker 2: The other one is Abdul Carter of the New York Giants,
Speaker 2: just twenty two years old.
Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to be great, but
Speaker 3: it's been he's not there yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could be on this list though for another
Speaker 2: two years.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just I didn realize he came in the
Speaker 3: league that.
Speaker 2: Young, twenty two years old. He turns twenty three in October.
Speaker 2: Defensive tackles. Two of them. One that you rave about
Speaker 2: all the time, Matt Byron Murphy of the Seahocks just
Speaker 2: twenty four years old. The other a guy who is
Speaker 2: just twenty two, very young. We didn't see much of him,
Speaker 2: but what we did it was encouraging. Walter Nolan of
Speaker 2: the Cardinal.
Speaker 3: This is a good list because they went deep. I mean,
Speaker 3: Nolan only played like eight games or so, but it
Speaker 3: was a real six games. It's another position. I think
Speaker 3: when we did Ledgyard's top twenty five defensive tackles, he
Speaker 3: mentioned and he was right. The last couple draft classes
Speaker 3: haven't been great at defensive tackle.
Speaker 2: No, and he might be the one who could who
Speaker 2: could change that. But yeah, he's got to stay healthy.
Speaker 3: And I mean, like Harmon looks good, but Nolan looks
Speaker 3: noticeably better than the other defense of tackles in that class,
Speaker 3: especially Graham and especially Grant. They were all.
Speaker 2: First ahead of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's got the capabilities of being
Speaker 2: a stud and it's still just twenty two years old.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So Byron Murphy and Walter Nolan. Yeah, pretty strong there
Speaker 2: On the interior of the defensive line linebackers. Here two
Speaker 2: off ball linebackers Carson Swesssinger of course raining These rookie
Speaker 2: of the year twenty three years old, for the Browns
Speaker 2: and Cedric Gray of the Tennessee Titans. He's also just
Speaker 2: twenty three years Who put this list together?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty impressed because some of them don't digging out.
Speaker 2: Lists put together by Wes Euhler of the Steelers. Oh no, sorry,
Speaker 2: Nick Shook put the list together.
Speaker 3: Gray is a name that people are probably like, who
Speaker 3: is that? He's been really good, just on a bad
Speaker 3: team that's never on national TV. And you're probably not
Speaker 3: watching the Titans because the Steelers are on a different channel,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yeah, you'd love to have Gray.
Speaker 2: I'll put my hand up. I think I watched the
Speaker 2: Titans two or three times.
Speaker 3: Right, that was probably if you're a total nerd, you
Speaker 3: don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: I was watching the Titans. I was watching cam Ward
Speaker 2: on offense and Jeffrey Simmons on defense. Not watch U.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and probably the losing and probably.
Speaker 2: Losing two corners on this list not surprising. Christian Gonzalez
Speaker 2: still just twenty four years old, and Kamari Lassiter of
Speaker 2: the Texans just twenty three years.
Speaker 3: Lastator is a great number two. I assume Porter is
Speaker 3: just over too. I think he is, thank just from
Speaker 3: that ESPN one. I'm almost certain because there was a
Speaker 3: couple of young guysman Steelers you were excited about but
Speaker 3: were just a little too old.
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior turned twenty six yesterday, Happy happy birth JPJ.
Speaker 3: Maybe should have given a contract on his birthday.
Speaker 2: How are they present?
Speaker 3: No, but I like those two lasted. The's a number
Speaker 3: two the teams try to pick on and don't have
Speaker 3: a lot of success because Stingley's on the other side.
Speaker 2: That's a real lockdown tandem. That's about as good as
Speaker 2: you can get. And then two safeties and a flex.
Speaker 2: All three of these guys outstanding players. A couple of
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions already here, Brian Branch of the Detroit
Speaker 2: Lions twenty four years old, Nick Emon Worry we've raved
Speaker 2: about him from Seattle, just twenty two years old. And
Speaker 2: Cooper Dejean of the Philadelphia Eagles, who has himself a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl trophy as well, and he is still just
Speaker 2: twenty three years old.
Speaker 3: There are an influx of these guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the lack of some of the other positions
Speaker 2: that they mention.
Speaker 3: Strong man, the.
Speaker 2: Defensive backs, and a lot of guys like Joey Porter Junior,
Speaker 2: who just missed the cut quin Jon Mitchell who just
Speaker 2: missed the cut. A lot of really good talent young
Speaker 2: at this position.
Speaker 3: What I also think is really telling him makes me
Speaker 3: like this list even more too, is all three of
Speaker 3: those safety names. You could even call them corners, and
Speaker 3: back in the day you'd say they're slots. You know,
Speaker 3: they are not Troy and Ed, you know, like they're
Speaker 3: not Cam and Earl, you know, or one's a strong,
Speaker 3: ones are free. I mean, these guys are the do
Speaker 3: it all slot big nickel that is really taken over
Speaker 3: the league. And I think that's going to be Ramsey
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 2: I hope so man. Yeah, because if you could add
Speaker 2: that to the Steelers defense right with the pass rush, yes,
Speaker 2: with Porter and Dean on the boundary, I mean you could,
Speaker 2: you could really be cooking.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned I did a corner podcast exclude, so
Speaker 3: I was talking a little bit about Porter's contract. But
Speaker 3: again the reference FTN and their almanac. They have a
Speaker 3: pretty good article or a really cool article up right
Speaker 3: now where they judge every defense by DVOA that's their numbers.
Speaker 3: Verse slot receivers. Doesn't matter if a running back or
Speaker 3: who lines up their quarterback in line up there. Whoever,
Speaker 3: the slot receivers are verse outside receivers. The Steelers were
Speaker 3: much better against outside receivers than slots.
Speaker 2: Interesting, which doesn't surprise when you know the middle of
Speaker 2: the field struggles.
Speaker 3: Yes, and people don't like to attack the outside because
Speaker 3: things take longer and they fear the pass rush. But
Speaker 3: then they took it a step further and broke down
Speaker 3: the players. So the outside corners, Porter was like eighth.
Speaker 3: Best happen to know who number one was? Probably not,
Speaker 3: but Jamiel Dean interesting was number one, So they were
Speaker 3: really strong at outside corner with Porter and no one
Speaker 3: else on the list. Then they added number one on
Speaker 3: the list to go with Porter. But what was really
Speaker 3: interesting you might you'd probably think, boy, the Steelers' slot
Speaker 3: corners must have really struggled. They didn't really what these
Speaker 3: numbers told me, because Ramsey was like eighth and Eccles
Speaker 3: was like eleventh amongst slot corners. Guys at the top
Speaker 3: were like Hamilton Derwin, those names you just mentioned, Degene
Speaker 3: which made me really encourage because and this passes the
Speaker 3: eyeball test when you watch tape. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of those slot receivers did a lot of damage against
Speaker 3: linebackers or heavier safeties or the Clerks or Duggers of
Speaker 3: the world. Because when it was Eccles or Ramsey, who
Speaker 3: are very different but they're both slots, they did well,
Speaker 3: but the team as a whole did not, which makes
Speaker 3: me think they might be way better at it this year,
Speaker 3: you know. And if they lookout look out right exactly,
Speaker 3: because you're gonna be even better on the outside too,
Speaker 3: you know, where you were already good, pretty encouraging.
Speaker 2: It is encouraging, and it's gonna be certainly something will
Speaker 2: keep an eye on, certainly something we're talking about plenty
Speaker 2: throughout training camp and interested to see what that deployment
Speaker 2: looks like. Certainly right off the jump when we get
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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Matt an interesting article on
Speaker 2: ESPN dot com today from Bill Barnwell, who you and
Speaker 2: I are both both fans of. He does great work
Speaker 2: talking about how the twenty eleven NFL draft class has
Speaker 2: claimed to be the best defensive class ever in the
Speaker 2: history of the league. It's pretty amazing, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 2: he said, for decades it was very easy to say.
Speaker 2: It was nineteen eighty one, which sent six defensive players
Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor, I said, was LT was a second overl pick.
Speaker 2: They leading the way, Kenny Easley, Ronnie Lott, Mike Singletary,
Speaker 2: Howie Long, and Ricky Jackson.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Pretty good, that's pretty good. I'm sure
Speaker 3: there's some other guys that had good careers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure if this can beat it or not.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good, he said, that's pretty good. But he
Speaker 2: said the twenty eleven class really with Cam Hayes and
Speaker 2: Cam Jordan's still playing at a high level in a
Speaker 2: couple like Hall of Fame locks. Here here's how he
Speaker 2: kind of lays it all out, in his case.
Speaker 3: Super quick before he does really stands out about this
Speaker 3: class to me in hindsight, obviously, is when first of all,
Speaker 3: I was covering the draft at that point too, and
Speaker 3: everyone thought it was a really really good class. That
Speaker 3: was Cam Newton first overall, and frankly, they have some
Speaker 3: pretty good offensive guys too, Julio Jones, AJ Green, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: but what stood out to me about that class is
Speaker 3: all the good players hit. I mean, like, if you
Speaker 3: look at almost the entire first round, especially the blue
Speaker 3: chip dudes, like the top twelve or whatever, not only
Speaker 3: did you get some great players later than you would
Speaker 3: on the other year, like AJ Green was like the
Speaker 3: seventh pick in the draft, and Julio was like five
Speaker 3: or something like that that could compete for one or
Speaker 3: two any other year. But like everyone but like Christian Ponder,
Speaker 3: basically hit and lived up to their draft. It was nuts,
Speaker 3: which never happened. Happens happens.
Speaker 2: So here's how he breaks it down. He basically says
Speaker 2: that there's there's four locks for Hall of Fame in
Speaker 2: that in that defensive draft class, and a lot of
Speaker 2: other guys who are still still really good and might
Speaker 2: might get there. The four locks. JJ Watt easy, easy, right,
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 3: I mean he competes. I think Lawrence Taylor is the
Speaker 3: best defense player to ever lived. But JJ's he's in
Speaker 3: the conversation, he's in that tier. I mean his career
Speaker 3: numbers with Aaron Donald are ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He was when he was at his prime. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was just unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I remember Pro Football Focus was kind of new at
Speaker 3: that point and they wrote an article saying, I think
Speaker 3: we have to change our system because JJ Watts breaking
Speaker 3: it right. We didn't think that anyone could be this good.
Speaker 2: I mean his like average season was Defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year. Yeah, yeah, just ridiculous. Another one, absolute no brainer,
Speaker 2: Von Miller easily two times Super Bowl champion and one
Speaker 2: of the great pass rushers of all time as well.
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman the third lock.
Speaker 3: I think he's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3: It might not be first ballot or whatever. He's not up.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been up yet. No, he's not. No, it's
Speaker 3: got to be soon, probably next year. Now I think
Speaker 3: about it, I think he gets in. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's in the class of those two they just mentioned,
Speaker 3: but I think he's, you know, a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Corner for a fifth round pick.
Speaker 3: Played a lot of receiver at Sanford too.
Speaker 2: He sure did, and in the last one he was
Speaker 2: part of this parish briefly, Patrick Peterson.
Speaker 3: I think he's a lock. He's into me over Sherman. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He also played a lot more man than Sherman did
Speaker 3: in their prime too.
Speaker 2: He did, he did, He was man. He was outstanding for.
Speaker 3: What a prospect he was too. He's like a Jalen
Speaker 3: Ramsey prospect where he was the.
Speaker 2: First pick of that class, wasn't he In twenty.
Speaker 3: Eleven, Cam Newton was one, But he was. I mean
Speaker 3: he would be the top corner in any draft, you know,
Speaker 3: just like a Ramsey, you know, big ridiculous athlete shapes
Speaker 3: backs it up. I forget the order. Maybe you can
Speaker 3: even pull it up. But Marshall Darius was the one,
Speaker 3: like top six pick that was good, not great, but
Speaker 3: like the draft is pretty it's really ridiculous at the top.
Speaker 3: It started with Cam.
Speaker 2: Let's see here, cam Newton yep number one, Von Miller
Speaker 2: number two, Marcel Darius number three, A. J. Green number four,
Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson number five, Julio Jones number Alden Smith number seven,
Speaker 2: who was had short lived and had issues, but my goodness,
Speaker 2: but he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: JJ Watt was eleventh overall, Tyron Smith was ninth overall.
Speaker 3: That's a Hall of Fame tackle too.
Speaker 2: Remember Quinn fourteenth, Mike Pouncy fifteenth, Ryan Carrigan sixteenth, good
Speaker 2: freaking lord, Kim Jordan in the first round, camp Yward
Speaker 2: in the first round.
Speaker 3: But the top half is the blue chip guys are
Speaker 3: all insane. Like Darius is the only one that maybe
Speaker 3: or yeah, he was just good, you know, but like
Speaker 3: all the other ones like outkicked there draft pick coverage.
Speaker 2: So he mentions those four his locks and then he
Speaker 2: talks about the Hall of really good with this class,
Speaker 2: guys like Alden Smith, guys like Robert Quinn, guys like
Speaker 2: Justin Houston was in this draft.
Speaker 3: I would definitely put Kerrigan in there too.
Speaker 2: I would put Kerrigan in there. He does, Ryan Kerrigan,
Speaker 2: Jabaal Sheared, Corey Leaguett all enjoyed lengthy careers. Jabal Shared
Speaker 2: was a pick guy. Let's see, Uh, Jirell Casey was
Speaker 2: in this class. Mohammedd Wilkerson was in this class.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's just.
Speaker 2: Not It's a lot of really like not Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame talent, but.
Speaker 3: Guys like you're real happy with the pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe like Alex high Smith type level, right right, Like.
Speaker 3: They might not be remembered by everyone for years and
Speaker 3: years and years unless it's your hometown team, but you'll
Speaker 3: take those guys.
Speaker 2: They were the best player on the field. And then
Speaker 2: he mentions the two wild cards who were still standing,
Speaker 2: of course, are very own. Cam Hayward and Cam Jordan.
Speaker 3: Both amazing careers, sort of parallel careers with one team
Speaker 3: gonna go down as like Ring of Honor, obvious slam
Speaker 3: dunks type guys. And I'm not trying to sound too partial,
Speaker 3: but I think Hayward goes to Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 3: think Jordan doesn't.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, yeah, I I certainly think Cam
Speaker 2: has the better shot to get in.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he's just because.
Speaker 2: He's been so good in the back half of his career.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean the way he's finished slouch. But
Speaker 3: Jordan had more sackson. I thought last year and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I do think Hayward's clearly the better player now
Speaker 3: and probably could last a little longer too.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 3: I bet this is Jordan's last year.
Speaker 2: He said. If both of these guys have one more
Speaker 2: big season, that'll probably be what puts them over the
Speaker 2: top as a as a you know, a future Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. I think Cam, I think already in especially
Speaker 2: when you throwing the Walter Payton.
Speaker 3: Man away with those guys that really matters. Jordan might
Speaker 3: have one too. I mean, I know he's super high regarded,
Speaker 3: and he's been a candidate many times. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he has one or not. I don't think he does.
Speaker 2: He does not, Okay, he's you know, he's got one
Speaker 2: first team All Pro and two second teams, where Cam
Speaker 2: has much more.
Speaker 3: But however, the premise of the article, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if that's better than eighty one or not. I mean,
Speaker 3: eighty one had six Hall of Famers too. I mean,
Speaker 3: we're hoping to get the six, and I bet they
Speaker 3: had some other good players that would be on the
Speaker 3: Kerrigan level. You know, sure, sure, I mean, but really,
Speaker 3: the interesting thing about this draft is throwing Julio and
Speaker 3: Cam and aj Green right right right, right right, Iron Smith.
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are all Hall of Fame type
Speaker 3: dudes too.
Speaker 2: Good Lord. The right up that he has here on
Speaker 2: Cam is interesting and has actually a really cool stat
Speaker 2: in it. Steelers defensive tackle Cam Hayward has had an
Speaker 2: unconventional career. He's entering his sixteenth season with the same team,
Speaker 2: which is rare in the modern NFL. The only defenders
Speaker 2: from this class to spend at least ten seasons with
Speaker 2: the same team are Jimmy Smith and Cam Jordan Okay,
Speaker 2: he says since turning twenty eight, Cam Hayward has made
Speaker 2: seven Pro Bowls. He's been a First team All Pro
Speaker 2: four times. Just twenty players have made seven or more
Speaker 2: Pro Bowls after turning twenty eight since nineteen ninety. Wow,
Speaker 2: Derek Brooks, Brian Dawkins, Ray Lewis, John Lynch, Ed Reid,
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith, and Rod Woodson. All of those guys, Matt
Speaker 2: are all Yeah.
Speaker 3: Again, I think Cam cannot play another down and he
Speaker 3: goes in. I think so too, Yeah, but I think
Speaker 3: if he has special After hearing that.
Speaker 2: I think he has one more really good season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Second team All Pro or even just goes to
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl or you know.
Speaker 2: He almost becomes a lock, not a slam dunk first
Speaker 2: ballo at lock. But I'd be shocked if he didn't
Speaker 2: get in.
Speaker 3: And I don't blame him, but playoff success would also help, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And don't have the playoffs, and Barnwell says that if
Speaker 2: he played in a different era, fifteen years with the
Speaker 2: Steelers would have been you know, surely come with at
Speaker 2: least one Super Bowl victory is what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there aren't many fifteen year stretch.
Speaker 2: But he says that's really without pointing out the lack
Speaker 2: of playoff success, that's like the only blemish on Cam
Speaker 2: Hayward's record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because sacks are tough for that position.
Speaker 3: And not to mention this, this goes for Keysol and
Speaker 3: you know those type of dudes as well, Aaron Smith.
Speaker 3: When Cam came in the league with Lebau, those guys
Speaker 3: weren't sack artists. They were you three, eat up five
Speaker 3: blocks and Kendro Bell makes all attacks exactly, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Here comes James fer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we talked about this a lot with the
Speaker 3: edge guys of that year. It's like Porter and Gilden
Speaker 3: and those dudes. If it's Sir Nate, they may drop
Speaker 3: off into coverage, you know, like you're passing downs. They
Speaker 3: only rushed like fifty percent of the time, so it's
Speaker 3: hard to get sacks in those roles like that. Hurt
Speaker 3: Richard Seymour, who is in the Hall of Fame, you know,
Speaker 3: like three four d n's were not good for numbers.
Speaker 2: He mentions, you know, kind of like that, Chris Jones
Speaker 2: is going to be a without a doubt Hall of
Speaker 2: Famer at that position. And then he mentions, you know,
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward going to be writing a conversation with Fletcher
Speaker 2: Cox and the Dominican Sioue both.
Speaker 3: I take him over both those guys. In terms of
Speaker 3: body of work.
Speaker 2: I think at I think at there. If you said
Speaker 2: those three at their absolute best, you could probably you
Speaker 2: could probably list Cams third, I would say, But in
Speaker 2: terms of longevity it's not even close. Like on their
Speaker 2: best day, Fletcher Cox and the Dominican Sue were defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the year time. Yeah, but man, their their
Speaker 2: their their peak, their prime was much quicker, much shorter
Speaker 2: than Cam's.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Sue. Is it kind of did the Clowney
Speaker 3: thing where he was just like a mercenary year to year,
Speaker 3: and you know, I would think, right the longevity with
Speaker 3: one team teams extended the year after a year, because
Speaker 3: if you're a mercenary, it also means that your former
Speaker 3: team decided we can.
Speaker 2: Live without you, we can move on from this. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: So I thought that was interesting. Really good company though, yeah,
Speaker 2: really good company. Really good draft class overall there, especially
Speaker 2: like you mentioned when you turn in the.
Speaker 3: Uh yeahlo and aj Green Yes, yeah right, there's a
Speaker 3: pretty Tyrone Smith and wake out.
Speaker 2: Yes, like he says, you know, if you kind of
Speaker 2: look at some of these years, twenty twelve has sent
Speaker 2: one player to the Hall of Fame so far, in
Speaker 2: Luke Keigley. It feels like Bobby Wagner is a lock.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But other than that, you know, you got Fletcher Clock,
Speaker 2: you got Stefan Gilmore. Who who might make it in
Speaker 2: UH twenty and thirteen only part only defender with even
Speaker 2: a shot is Tyrone Matthew twenty and fourteen. Twenty and fourteen,
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald is a sure thing and Khalil Mack should
Speaker 2: join him. But that's two guys, yea yeah, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: won't send anybody to Canton. On Defense twenty sixteen, Chris Jones,
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey, perhaps Kevin Byer. So, I mean, you look
Speaker 2: at it most of these years. Stretch, big stretch. I
Speaker 2: think you and I did this exercise at one point.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get four or five out of
Speaker 3: a class period, the ball.
Speaker 2: Just have like one one and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think where I think there's a couple in
Speaker 3: history that of a bond.
Speaker 2: This one I think would have at least five, maybe six.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, well, if you talk about both sides
Speaker 3: of the ball, oh yeah, yeah, surely you might get ten.
Speaker 2: You might get yeah, which would be a heck of
Speaker 2: a heck of a draft class certainly. So fun to
Speaker 2: kind of look at that stuff this time of year.
Speaker 2: Good right up by Bill Barnwell on ESPN dot com.
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Speaker 2: Last segment here from our studio. Before the next time
Speaker 2: you hear from Matt and I, we will be at
Speaker 2: Chuck Nolfield the Honest press Box. Yeah, gorgeous scenic campus
Speaker 2: of Saint Vincent College of course in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. Out
Speaker 2: there in Westmoreland.
Speaker 3: Canny, Yeah, I'm psyched.
Speaker 2: It's good. Did you see they got the bridge? They
Speaker 2: got the bridge done on three seventy six by Squirrel Hill,
Speaker 2: which doesn't affect you and I from where we live,
Speaker 2: but it's good news ahead of training camp for everyone.
Speaker 2: And it's going to be heading out towards Route thirty
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Speaker 2: We're around the ground. You can't get to us during
Speaker 2: the show because we're in the press box, but we're always.
Speaker 3: Were always walking around that neck of the wood.
Speaker 2: We're just poking around the grounds. We're always doing shows
Speaker 2: in the evening, all the standard stuff that you come
Speaker 2: to expect that has not changed, despite plenty of things
Speaker 2: that will with this first Mike McCarthy edition of Training Camp.
Speaker 3: Ian, you did have a programming note.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm glad you remind me.
Speaker 3: No video.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I think people again, I think our loyal
Speaker 2: listeners probably remember this. But I know we're always picking
Speaker 2: up people along the way and all that. We will
Speaker 2: not be on video during training camp because he has
Speaker 2: too many responsibilities and it's just hard to be.
Speaker 3: Small.
Speaker 2: It's like a little tiny press box, yeah, where Matt
Speaker 2: and I are kind of right pressed up against the
Speaker 2: glasses and there wouldn't be a ton of.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: But so after training camp, I would think probably maybe
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Speaker 3: As your boy Mo says, that doesn't mean training camps.
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Speaker 3: We just won't be at Saint Vincent's right.
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Speaker 2: that it smells like training camp. To me, it's time
Speaker 2: to lock in. I'll see you guys at Dino's. Do
Speaker 2: you think Joey Porter Junior and his agent are strategically
Speaker 2: waiting to sign his new contract until after Christian Gonzalez
Speaker 2: signs his Thanks and missed you guys, And we talked
Speaker 2: about that a little bit at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2: But it's certainly a possibility, because I think I think
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 3: It's it's if you know it's going to come in
Speaker 3: super high, why would you not want that one more
Speaker 3: bullet point in your favor.
Speaker 2: It's almost like the opposite of musical chairs. Like you,
Speaker 2: you want everyone else to fill out their chair and
Speaker 2: then you can look and say, hey, that's where I belong.
Speaker 3: There, maybe slightly behind share number one, but well ahead
Speaker 3: of chair number two. You know. Yes, And it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a big number of folks.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a real big number. I do believe
Speaker 2: Matt and I will be doing a show at Dino's
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, by the way, as we come.
Speaker 3: This Wednesday, Okay, that'll be our first night show. I
Speaker 3: think I have four or five this year.
Speaker 2: I think I've got three some at Sharkys. I think
Speaker 2: I have four actually.
Speaker 3: One of the casino, two or three at Dino's, one
Speaker 3: or two at sharky.
Speaker 2: Now that you I think I have one at the case.
Speaker 2: I do have one of the casino, one at Dino's,
Speaker 2: and two at Sharky's. I think it's four. It's four.
Speaker 2: But again, we are not hard to find, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: And if Matt and I aren't doing the evening shows,
Speaker 2: there's always a lot of fun happening still, you know.
Speaker 2: Pursuab anyways, probably one of those establishments. Anyways, unless there's
Speaker 2: no practice the next day.
Speaker 3: Then we'll go home until we get home.
Speaker 2: We'll go home and sleep in our own beds and
Speaker 2: all that. All that.
Speaker 3: It's always like stuff at home.
Speaker 2: I always think like I'm gonna go home, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be nothing going on, And instead the honeydew list is
Speaker 2: a dozen items long.
Speaker 3: I used to have have a big, strapping young boy
Speaker 3: that could, you know, mowd a lawn or whatever. But
Speaker 3: he'll be off at school. He was off school last year.
Speaker 3: It's like it's done again. Lines up to my knees.
Speaker 3: I've been been home for a week. Not what I
Speaker 3: want to do.
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation steal a Nation nine twenty. Our buddy Tyler
Speaker 2: up in Wisconsin says, fun conversation at work amongst all
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin's they were arguing about Farv versus Rogers the
Speaker 2: other day that I'd like to get your guys opinion
Speaker 2: on this. They all basically consensus said that Brett Farva
Speaker 2: was way more fun to watch, but Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 2: the better quarterback.
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree, and again, these are the
Speaker 3: best quarterbacks that ever lived. But on that list, I
Speaker 3: think Farbe's a little overrated. I mean, there was a
Speaker 3: lot of things he did to hurt his team, yes,
Speaker 3: and where Rogers doesn't have any of those naggs.
Speaker 2: And I think Rogers had a lot of fun to
Speaker 2: watch when he was in his prime. But Brett Farv
Speaker 2: was like the rock and roll front man. Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: he was like the rock and roll front man. Sometimes
Speaker 2: those vocals were gonna be angelic. The other times he
Speaker 2: was going to stay out all night partying.
Speaker 3: That's gonna sound like crap the next day. And no
Speaker 3: one like he was so different because it felt like
Speaker 3: everything with one hundred and fifty mins hour fastball, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean he loaded up.
Speaker 2: He was a rock star man.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes he was.
Speaker 2: Maybe Slash is the better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just or bottom, you know, just someone
Speaker 3: that hit the drums hard. Yeah, I mean it's hit
Speaker 3: the drums really hard. Again. They're two of the top
Speaker 3: twelve quarterbacks that ever lived, but I don't think they're
Speaker 3: in the same tier.
Speaker 2: I don't either. I think I think Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 2: a tier ahead. Mister Steele City says, you have to
Speaker 2: think our second team offensive line will dominate second team
Speaker 2: defensive lines in preseason, right. I think Caleb Johnson and
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks have to show some flashes with the advantage
Speaker 2: they should have up front. Preseason is less than a
Speaker 2: month away. Let's go.
Speaker 3: That's great. I think that's a really good angle.
Speaker 2: Teen days away till the first preseason game something that
Speaker 2: we're getting close.
Speaker 3: So you would hope that a Caleb Johnson looks good.
Speaker 3: I mean, he should have holes and I think he's
Speaker 3: this this tweeter, I know if it's male or female.
Speaker 3: My fault is that the Steelers number two OH line
Speaker 3: can could probably compete with any number two OH line
Speaker 3: out there, and should in preseason be quite successful against
Speaker 3: the d lines are facing. And we talked about this
Speaker 3: a lot that it's really difficult to evaluate Caleb our Howard. Guys,
Speaker 3: you don't know a lot about No one walks for him.
Speaker 1: And last the.
Speaker 2: Last preseason, no one was blocking. Caleb Johnson covered himself
Speaker 2: in glory.
Speaker 3: No no, of course not.
Speaker 2: The second team offensive line struggled.
Speaker 3: So who do we think will be the second team line?
Speaker 3: He'll probably I mean if I would bet he's your
Speaker 3: left and would be probably the right. I mean, if
Speaker 3: they played the game today.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Ryan McCollum at center, yeah, or maybe.
Speaker 3: Hoffman maybe Hoffman, but.
Speaker 2: You have Jennings dunker out one of the guards. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you could have two first round picks at
Speaker 2: tackle a third round pick at guard if it's i.
Speaker 3: Mean pretty accomplished. Yeah right, it probably would have. Probably
Speaker 3: Mcallum would probably be the second seventh.
Speaker 2: That's what I think I would go with those five.
Speaker 2: That's a really good second team offensive line man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's not bad, even like the Jones kid,
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones. Yeah yeah, I mean, if he's your third guy.
Speaker 2: Like we saw from him in Spurts last year.
Speaker 3: If Broderick's not healthy, I mean so yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like we're missing somebody too. But no, that's that's probably.
Speaker 2: Your your second Spencer Anderson and Dylan Cook up with
Speaker 2: the first.
Speaker 3: Team at least to start at least.
Speaker 2: First preseason game or you know, first preseason or first
Speaker 2: training camp practice.
Speaker 3: That's pretty quality second team O line. My goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's probably some teams in the NFL
Speaker 2: that would trade their first team offensive line for that
Speaker 2: second team unit of the Steelers. R J says before
Speaker 2: every season, I like to do an eight leg division
Speaker 2: winner parlay and let it ride. Wow, if you guys
Speaker 2: had to put your chips down right now. Who would
Speaker 2: be your guys eight picks for division winners this season.
Speaker 2: It's a good one.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things I always like, hold out
Speaker 3: till my official Yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll do official picks and all that at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably after pre season, when we have a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks to kill.
Speaker 3: Before Right now, I think I'm torn between Dallas and Philly.
Speaker 3: I'm torn between the Bills and Patriots. Frankly, I don't
Speaker 3: know who I'm gonna taken the AFC North. I think
Speaker 3: there's three teams that have a case. I don't know
Speaker 3: who I'm gonna take in the NFC North. That's the
Speaker 3: hardest one.
Speaker 2: I don't know who I'm gonna take the AFC West.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, NFC West.
Speaker 2: Not is there a division right now that i'd say,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I'm picking that team to win it. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe the Saints in.
Speaker 3: The South, but they didn't win last year and.
Speaker 2: They're not the Vegas favorites to win it this But like.
Speaker 3: I bet Philly's a common choice, but I'm leaning towards Dallas.
Speaker 2: I mean, Houston, Jacksonville both have a great shot to
Speaker 2: win the division.
Speaker 3: We know the I think Houston would be the one
Speaker 3: I feel firmest about of the eight. I mean none
Speaker 3: of them are firm honestly.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, Like because the AFC North, we know has
Speaker 2: three legit contenders, the a f C West, the Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos.
Speaker 2: The AFC East is a coin flip between the Bills
Speaker 2: and the Patriots.
Speaker 3: If you're down on one of those two teams, I
Speaker 3: could see a strong case for the other.
Speaker 2: North is gonna be a rock fight, Yeah, the East
Speaker 2: between the Eagles and the Cowboys. The West, yeah, the
Speaker 2: Rams great, but they also have the defending Super Bowl
Speaker 2: champion and the Niners n anywhere ever, go anywhere. And
Speaker 2: in the South, I mean, I don't think the Panthers
Speaker 2: aren't the favorite to run it back, But do you
Speaker 2: really trust Tampa and New Orleans? It's I don't know
Speaker 2: if I remember a year, matt where there was not
Speaker 2: a clear cut Oh yeah, I'm picking that team to
Speaker 2: win that division.
Speaker 3: The opposite is true, Like it's easy to say Arizona
Speaker 3: and Cleveland or you know, or Miami or like.
Speaker 2: The last couple of years going to the year, it's
Speaker 2: been like the Bills are gonna run away with the AFC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the last this time of year to say.
Speaker 2: They're gonna run away with the West.
Speaker 3: Many times, and a lot of people picked the Ravens
Speaker 3: even or you know, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: That is that is an interesting one. RJ. Here's what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do for you, dude. I'm gonna bookmark that.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll save it and we'll get back to it.
Speaker 3: You might need it like three weeks still or ready
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 2: It might need a little bit of time because you also,
Speaker 2: to be fair, right, you got to make it through
Speaker 2: training camp and see who's still healthy. Yeah, somebody make
Speaker 2: any last minute roster editions and.
Speaker 3: RJ, RJ, I wish you the best, but you're not
Speaker 3: gonna hit that, parlat. I mean, some years has to
Speaker 3: be easier than this.
Speaker 2: He said that there was a year in further down tweets,
Speaker 2: he said that there was a year where because someone
Speaker 2: tweeted him back and was like, have you ever hit it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he said that there was one year that he got
Speaker 2: seven out of eight.
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, I'm sure you could hedge when you
Speaker 3: get the week twelve or whatever and it's looking good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not an expert better, but I know
Speaker 3: there's things like that.
Speaker 2: And r J, I know you say you let it ride,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 3: Might put two dollars on it just to see if
Speaker 3: I hit.
Speaker 2: From a degenerate standpoint, I admire that you let it ride.
Speaker 2: But if it was a week fourteen and they're making
Speaker 2: me a nice cash out.
Speaker 3: I could cash out right take that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might take that.
Speaker 3: There's there's this year would be so hard, dude.
Speaker 2: It's they're I mean you could they're they're all wide open. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're all wide open. That's that's a good that's a
Speaker 2: good one from RJ.
Speaker 3: Though. We what's a fun tradition though, I mean we're
Speaker 3: not saying it's betting his mortgage payment on it. Put
Speaker 3: two bucks on it.
Speaker 2: And a fun thing between like you and your buds too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can get more anybody. Yeah, all that.
Speaker 2: And everything, certainly certainly a lot of fun. Good show today,
Speaker 2: fun getting back in here with you, Matt. Reminder, no
Speaker 2: Tuesday show, but then we'll be full steam ahead pedal
Speaker 2: to the metal Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday for Matt's favorite
Speaker 2: those first four acclamation practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get your hopes up for action from those guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have a couple of things to get to. Oh,
Speaker 2: a lot of it will just be deployment. And at
Speaker 2: the same time, though, will.
Speaker 3: Howard Drew Aller, Oh, they didn't do stuff.
Speaker 2: Really, you better be able to make some throws when
Speaker 2: you're out there in shorts and there's no pass ration. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so there will still obviously be plenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I might make it sound like they're a standing around.
Speaker 3: It's just people. There's a couple of things throughout the year.
Speaker 3: People get too excited about the Hall of Fame games.
Speaker 3: Number one, absolutely, number one, wait for some football, all right.
Speaker 3: At least we see guys in paths like you don't
Speaker 3: know anyone after the but the acclamation periods another one.
Speaker 3: It's not training camp, it's not it's better than that.
Speaker 3: I'm psyched this could be. But you're watching it like
Speaker 3: this as well.
Speaker 2: In fact, by the time we get to Friday and
Speaker 2: Saturday's practices, I'll.
Speaker 3: Be like, oh, then your real tireracclamations.
Speaker 2: Pads on it, right, somebody right, right, But folks, it
Speaker 2: is all right ahead. It's an exciting time to be
Speaker 2: a Steeler fan, to be a football fan. It's an
Speaker 2: exciting time across Pennsylvania and across the National Football League.
Speaker 2: Matt and I can't wait to get out there and
Speaker 2: bring it all to you beginning on Wednesday. But that
Speaker 2: will do it for us today. Thanks to everybody who
Speaker 2: participated on the tweets and I've been anxiously awaiting our
Speaker 2: return for the last couple of weeks. Stay involved with
Speaker 2: us because we've got a lot of good stuff coming
Speaker 2: for Matt Williams and I'm Weshuuler. Take care, everybody. We
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Speaker 2: Vincent College at Chuck Nolefield in beautiful Latrobe. As always,
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