WEBVTT - Ep. 12: Roster Takes Before Final Preseason Game | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.000 They're approaching the final game of the preseason. So who 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:07.920 for you guys has been the MVP of the preseason 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:09.200 and training camp so far, Tank. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.360 Bigsby, maybe the rookie coaches who call running plays now 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:14.440 I would say Greg Junior. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.280 Welcome in. It's Wednesday's edition of Jags A. I'm presented 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.320 by Jet Home Loans. I'm Kennannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.800 John Oser are with me, and as John so eloquently mentioned, 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:43.600 we're slogging along. We're trying to get through training camp 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.320 right now because the regular season is around the corner, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:46.720 and we're. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.639 All very excited. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.400 Running clock, baby, running block. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.599 I wouldn't be mad about it. We're gonna start off 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.320 with big things today as indoors. The team practiced indoors 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.840 yesterday and they're gonna practice indoors, or they practice indoors 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.680 two days or stay indoors. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.920 As well outside. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.840 Okay, so the last two days they were indoors and 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.480 they'll be back outside today. But after a week away 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.319 in Michigan, they're kind of losing their South Florida. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.319 Will you you know? To me, I think part of 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.200 it is. And Doug hasn't talked about it is that 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.959 they're beat up, right, get a chance to get your 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.559 legs back. You've got one more week and you're gonna 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.520 play your starters on Saturday. It's not like the guys 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.760 are sitting this week. So it made sense to me 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.560 that they would go indoors. Now, yesterday they were in 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.160 pads indoors, even though it wasn't all the way to 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:31.640 the ground. It just seems to me like it's a 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.360 way to lighten the load a little bit, keep your 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.440 guys fresh because you're gonna play them on Saturday. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.839 Yeah, I thought yesterday was to call it a padded practice, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.920 it would be generous. Yeah. I mean, it had pads, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.200 but it was not what people think of as a 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.840 padded football practice with like a major hit. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:50.800 Honestly, how many of those were they're in camp? 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.960 Not many, right, But if it's so, I thought yesterday 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.640 was light my understanding from looking at the schedule in 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:57.640 terms of time, this is. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:58.840 A long practice. Today. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.200 I guess it'll have some physicality to it, and then 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.440 that'll be the last really physical practice that we see 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.160 because these are the last couple of practices that will 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.400 see except for the twenty minutes. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.040 And I think a little bit of it probably too. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.960 After you go away and you joint practices. Those are 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.160 always physical, so coming back maybe and with the injuries 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.400 we saw as well against Detroit, to try to keep 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.440 everything level and keep everybody healthy going into that last game. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.440 The beggest point you've learned what you're going to learn 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.360 by hitting in Like Doug clearly stay with last year. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.080 He likes to get a couple of big hit days in. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.040 He had one this year. He gets Detroit and won 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.799 against themselves in this day and age. That's about what 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.919 you can do underscore this day and age. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.360 It's the way it is, all right. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.520 Big thing Number two is special teams. Brian, I want 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.440 to let you go into that because you talked to 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.280 our special teams coach and kind of you know, we've 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.880 talked for a while about if you want to make 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.160 this roster and you're on the edge, you got to 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.160 do something on special teams. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.079 Well, and your buddy Bucky Brooks and I John talk. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.280 He is my pal. I talked extensively during the broadcast 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.280 last Saturday about the final spots that are available on 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.880 the roster. John, from one to fifty three, how many 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:03.519 do you think you know right now, I'd say forty eightish. Yeah. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:03.480 Yeah. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.919 So we're talking about the bottom five spots on the 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:10.840 roster and what determines those spots well, almost exclusively special teams. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.760 So caught up yesterday with he Farwell and he had 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.040 this to say about the decision making process when it 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.239 comes to special teams. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.919 It's a collaborative effort. I think there's a there is 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:24.840 some spots at the end that kind of maybe I 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:29.960 can persuade, you know, the organization coach Peterson, Trent Balky, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.720 if everything is equal, Hey, this guy's a little tad 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.119 better on special teams, he can help us, or he's 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.320 a four phase guy we can't let out of the building. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.840 I like to think that I have a little influence 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:41.160 on that. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.680 Now, there's one guy in particular that he pointed out 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.040 who has done that, and that's Dewey, who's gonna make 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.520 the roster anyway, right, So he's not that final five. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.360 But the wide receivers John that we've talked about, they've 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.400 got to prove it on special teams. Jacob Harris in 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:59.480 particular was really good on coverage teams. He's so long 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.680 and got that stride he can get down the field. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.480 But whether we're talking about a backup linebacker, safety, a 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.400 wide receiver, it's going to be earned on special teams 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.600 on Saturday Night. Not exclusively, but a big play out 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.120 there on Saturday Night could be the difference between say, 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.440 Jacob Harris and Seth Williams. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.680 Kai probably recalls an argument a couple of weeks ago 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.839 where I insisted to do he would make the team. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.200 You know, said yeah, But if you recall the hot take, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.880 I didn't say that he was not going to I 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.560 said he was going to be pushed, and. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:32.720 So it was a warm take. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:39.120 Then well he was, he was. Well, I didn't. I 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.680 never said he wasn't going to make the team, so 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.000 I couldn't have been ruber Lebron. But what I said 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.880 was was that he was going to be pushed, and 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.440 he was until Antonio Johnson pulls hamster. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.080 All right, Our big thing, number three is that calm 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.000 before the storm we're talking about. You know, maybe there's 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.000 only a handful of spots left on this roster, but 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.120 how much of those decisions have already been made? In 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.680 your opinion, john going into this final preseason game, is 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.120 there ill spots up for grabs? If someone goes out 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.440 there or they already kind of know. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:10.239 I'd say again, I think the last four or five spots, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:16.400 especially at corner, I would say linebacker. I'm curious see 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:21.080 what they do with Shack and Ventrel Miller and Caleb 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:25.560 Johnson out of that group. I do think they pretty 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.640 much know. If he asked Doug and Trent to cut 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.880 the team, they could probably get it to fifty one. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.919 But I think there's a there's always a couple of spots. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.920 Maybe you're not doing it based on that game, but 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.039 that they still need to have conversations after that game, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.520 that the game will influence a little bit. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.080 There's only one player I know of in Jaguars history 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.599 that made the fifty three based exclusively on his final 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:56.880 preseason action points. There was a running back twenty three 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.800 twenty four years ago named Stacey Mack, big kid out 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.400 of a Orlando, played a Temple. He had a reverse 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.160 field sixty five yard touchdown against Dallas in two thousand 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.440 and When he did that, they knew they had their guy, 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.600 their backup running back. Other than that, you know, they're 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.760 just looking for one thing that might push it between 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.520 two players or three players. Just that one thing. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.240 I know, Doug's talked a lot about consistency, so you 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.840 really are going to have to show out in Game three, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.400 and it's only going to be about a half of 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.240 play as well, because we know the starters are going 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.599 the first two quarters at least, that's what Peterson is 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:28.279 planning on doing. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.279 They want to trust you. They want to know that 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.080 what they get when they put you on the field 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.080 is going to be what they get if they need 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.719 to put you on the field at any point during 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.080 the season, and it's about building that level of trust. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.880 Yeah, there's probably more jobs lost in the final preseason 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.479 game where a guy shows up and or not lost, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.479 but sort of confirmed of Okay, we thought this was 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.560 trouble here, probably not going to be able to keep 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.359 them on the right. You know, it's more confirmation, I 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.320 think than it is guys winning jobs. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:01.800 All right, Coming up, we're going to talk a little 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.800 bit more about the fifty three man roster, who we 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.480 think is kind of on the Edgora has showed out 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.159 so far in camp, and don't forget Saturday's final preseason 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.800 game versus the Miami Dolphins is brought to you by Ticketmaster, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.960 the official ticket marketplace of the Jaguars and the NFL 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.880 JAGSAM presented by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville step up to 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.520 Luxuryfieldsauto dot Com JAGSAM. On this Wednesday, August twenty third, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.120 we're in the Hyundai studios and getting down to those 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.240 final cut times, so we do a segment called the 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.880 fifty three. Either people that have made the case for 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.800 themselves or you know, need to have a good training camp, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.280 or are just coming back and they're going to be 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.560 making this fifty three ran roster or trying to Brian, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:46.480 who do you want to highlight today? 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.880 I'll go with Jeremiah Ledbetter for the obvious reason, with 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.920 Devon Hamilton's injury, they need this guy to play well, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.680 and luckily for them he has. The last two weeks 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.600 he's been a force at the line of scrimmage against 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.560 the run, and just like Hamilton, he's been a guy 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.800 who's gotten good push off the line of scrimmage into 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.120 the backfield and broken plays up or as we saw 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.000 last week, finished off the sack that calebon Chason could not. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.280 He's an interesting guy. Was drafted by the Lions in 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:17.520 twenty seventeen, has been on the Buccaneers and the Ravens 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.880 and the Buccaneers, the Cardinals and the Jaguars practice squads 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.200 and active rosters over the last six years. He's a 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.440 wide body. You know, when you look at Devon Hamilton, John, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.200 he's really big from the waist down and he's got 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.800 a wide hip, bass right, big butt, and which is 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.040 what you need in that You need a guy who 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.760 can anchor in and he is the guy on that 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.280 line that could probably anchor in the best, you know, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.439 beyond Devon or maybe fully fought to Costsias. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.800 What Mike Caldwell said the other day, he can also 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.120 play all spots along the line. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.600 Yeah, say that is versatility. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:50.880 I think he's on the roster no matter what would 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.960 have happened with Devon, and he's another guy, Brian, we 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.720 talked on Monday about guys that Balkey signed as free 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.200 agents from other teams who aren't necessarily high profile guys, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.240 but they are good NFL players. So so Kudo's pro 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.800 scouting because to me, that's a huge reason why this 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:10.839 team seems so deep. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.720 He's a journeyman who has earned the right to be 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.640 on the roster, like John just said, and it just 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.319 so happens they need him also. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.000 And a segue guy. You know, a segue in radio 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:27.240 is one of those things where you bring I mean 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.400 Dernis Johnson, who's exactly the same kind of free agent, 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.640 is my fifty three. I don't know that he is 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.760 a lock to make the team. I don't think he 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.560 thinks he's a lock to make the team. I think 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.800 he's earned it. He's he's going to be right on 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:49.840 the bubble. It may come down to whether they keep 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.560 four running backs, which may means numbers at other spots. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.400 My gut is that he will be on the team. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.040 He looked awfully good. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.520 The other night. He's a veteran for a running back. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.920 What you want to see in the preseason is do 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.080 they still move and make people miss like they did 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:06.840 when they were rookies. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.760 Looks to me like he does. You know. The interesting 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.400 thing is they trust Michael Hasty. You know, he gave 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.040 him the sixty yard touchdown in Indy last year and 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.640 the thirty yard touchdown against the Ravens that gave the 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.920 Jaguars an early lead in two important games. So they 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.319 trust him. But I think Johnson is a more versatile 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.080 player than Hasty. I think he's a better receiver out 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.360 of the backfield. I think he's a guy who could 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:34.640 pick up the blitz schemes. I think he's aware. I 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:35.800 kind of like him as the three. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.400 Well, think about what he gives you in the backfield 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.080 if you're Doug and Trent last year. With respect to Hasty, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.000 who I think is a very important player on this team, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.640 I don't know that you feel great if he is 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:52.880 your lead back going into a three game stretch with 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.280 Ernest Johnson and Tank Bigsby, I think they feel like 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.400 they have three guys who they're okay. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.280 If with that, they're okay. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.040 If they have to go with those guys as your 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.600 main back, that's significantly more depth than I think they 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:07.679 had a running back last year. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.920 You know, the roster moves, how they structure it is 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.439 so heavily impacted by the injury situation on the offensive 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.959 and defensive line. So a guy like this or Hasty, 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.880 you know, or a fourth tight end like Garrett Prince 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.120 you know, could fall into it. Can we get into 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.880 the practice squad because of the needs at those positions. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.240 But Hasty and Johnson both are worthy of a roster spot. Yeah, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.000 Johnson's going to be in the NFL. Yeah, and I 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:31.959 think he'll be here. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.480 And again another example of guys who can play in 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:35.280 this league anyway. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.680 And we hammered on this a bunch, but there are 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:38.880 going to be a lot of people that are cut 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.480 next week that end up on a different roster, especially 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:42.800 in those skill positions. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.040 It's been that wait a long time around here. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.319 I know it's a nice feeling, right. I want to 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.520 highlight Ben Bartch, not necessarily that he wouldn't have made 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.640 the roster, but we're seeing in practice for the first 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.280 time because he's been on the pup list after that 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.040 knee injury he suffered last year, and after all of 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.880 those offensive line injuries and issues we saw against Detroit. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.840 He's coming back at the absolute perfect time. Obviously, everybody 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.959 on the offensive line is super versatile, can play multiple positions, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.760 but you have to imagine that Ben Barch's coming back 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.800 at this point is like a breath of fresh air 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.600 for Rauser, who's been dealing with all these unknowns with 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.280 all of the injuries and then of course Cam's suspension 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:16.560 as well. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.079 Start they think about it like this. Last week you 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.720 had to have Walker Little play at left guard because 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.400 they weren't going to put BArch into the game in 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.960 Detroit this week. If Anton Harrison's shoulder is bothering him 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.439 and you want to give him more time to get 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.520 ready for the regular season, you can move Little to 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.000 the right side. Because BArch is back and Cam Robinson 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.560 is still here, so it's critical that you've got him 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.240 for this game and maybe even Opening Day to give 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.680 you some sort of depth and versatility, which is the 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.480 thing we've talked about with this offensive line group. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.840 Well, as much as you know, we're sort of gnashing 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.480 teeth on Monday about the depth and depth is still 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.319 a worry. Getting BArch back means you've got a decent 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.280 chance to have a very legitimate NFL starting line Week 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:59.320 one with little BArch, Fortner, Sheriff and Harrison. That's not 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.800 very far from what you would want your ideal starting 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.440 line to be around here. So depth a little bit 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.920 of an issue, particularly with Hodges being hurt and Wells, 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.720 but I think they feel okay with their depth other 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.559 than those guys, and they certainly feel good about that 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:16.120 five start. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.319 You have to feel good about that position group, even 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.200 with what they have going on. So stay with us. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.120 We're going to talk about some things going on around 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:31.440 the league coming up after the break. Price dot Com 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.679 is the easiest way to save money with comparison shopping, 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:38.560 cashback coupons all in one. It's free. Tryprice dot com today. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.079 Welcome back to jag zam and the Hundai Studios. We're 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.680 gonna talk a little bit about what's going on around 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.360 the league because we're getting ready to start the season, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.640 so we got to keep track of everything. Jonathan Taylor, 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.320 all that drama in Indianapolis. They finally decided to let 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.800 him seek a trade. John to want to touch base 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.719 with you. I'm sure you're not surprised by all that's 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.000 gone down, but it's gotten to this point. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:03.040 I guess I'm surprised. I'm always amazed these days when teams. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.280 I was amazed three or four years ago when this 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.199 team allowed Jalen Rams that he sort of forced his 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.800 way out. I guess I'm so old school Brian that 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.599 I think if you've got a great player and he 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.199 doesn't want to play there, you tell him, Okay, you're 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:19.160 gonna sit establish a precedent. GMS evidently don't believe in that, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.760 and I'm sure there's some reason they don't. But for 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.400 the Colts, it's certainly if he seeks a trade. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.720 It's hard to interpret. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.880 That franchise as anything right now. But in major rebuild, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.440 even if he doesn't seek a trade, he's a great back. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:41.080 I understand his side of it, trying to get whatever 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:47.480 contract he can get at this age. But it's a mess, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.360 and I guess they're trying to clean up eever they can. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.680 And that feels like Major League hitting the reset. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.600 But you remember when it seemed like the Colts were 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.920 living a charmed life. They went from Peyton Manning right 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.360 to Andrew Luck. They just had it all going and 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.760 you thought, you know, when's luck going to fall for 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.280 this team? Well now, I mean they seem to be 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:11.280 a complete disaster. I know the owner is unpredictable. Why 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.240 did he say we're not going to trade him if 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.440 two weeks later he says, all right, go ahead and 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.040 seek a trade. I mean that's the part. Who's in charge. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.120 Is it Chris Ballard? Is he making the decisions and 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.800 leading the football strategy or is it Jim Mersay? And 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.240 if it's Jim Mersay, they're not anywhere close to being 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:28.680 out of it. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.880 Yeah, you can spend a long time trying to figure 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:34.960 out Jim Mersey's thoughts. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.920 I'm sure we have enough show for that man. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.080 And by the way, Anthony Richardson, who they're putting into 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.640 the starting lineup right away, even though nobody thinks that 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.600 he's ready to be an NFL quarterback this year, that 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.280 would be his best friend. I mean, how much more 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.760 effective is that young quarterback with that superstar back? 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.880 And you're really I'm questionable. I know they different philosophies 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.200 about playing rookies quarterbacks right out of the gate, but 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.600 the way it's set up in Indie right now, I'm 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.920 curious how that's actually going to play out. Actually, our 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.640 second thing we're going to talk about around the league, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.400 the Colts and Eagles gotten into a little bit of 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.280 a brawl yesterday at their joint practice, and we saw 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.400 some other teams calling off their second week of joint 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.600 practices because of this very thing. It's getting a little 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.640 too competitive right at the end where you're kind of 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:22.120 feeling that physicality where we saw the Lions and Jags 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.840 get a little chippy, but nothing bad at all, and 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.360 I think that's where you want to keep it. But 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.480 some other teams are struggling with that. John, how do 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.000 you keep things light the last week before. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.720 The I don't know. I've always considered training camp fights 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.640 like remember when you were kid, Brian hit sniffle fights. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:40.720 Neither one wanted to fight, you know, that's sort of 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.720 what it feels like. You know, you're hitting each other 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.880 with helmets on. I get the boys that we boys thing. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.640 Everybody's trying to man up or whatever that is. You know. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.960 I think if you've got two teams, the Lions and 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:59.200 Jags kept things moderately under control. I thought the Jags 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.800 handled themselves well in that situation, trying to get good 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.399 workout of it. Of the Lions seemed like they stepped 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.400 over the line a couple of times. It wasn't tragic. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.320 I think you've got to get the coaches where they 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.800 have the same philosophy on it. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:15.760 Yeah. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.840 I don't really think it's a big deal of teams 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.439 don't do this, But I think maybe in the future 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:26.200 teams will try to find like minded approaches, maybe a 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:27.280 little better than they have this year. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:28.840 Oh you know, I thought last week the Lions and 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.479 the Jaguars represented the coaches pretty well, right. I mean, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.080 Doug is reserved and very intellectual in his approach to 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.159 it right. You never see him get too high or 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.480 too low. And he told us in the production meeting 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:43.960 that he was really impressed with the way that his 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.840 team handled the Lions' aggressiveness. The Lions coach Dan Campbell 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.680 was a scrapper as a player, right, and the guy 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.800 whould to fight his way into the NFL and stay 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.200 by all means. The players love playing for him and 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.200 they've adopted some of his personality. Jack Campbell, the middle 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.440 linebacker Kamiski, the defense of Lyneman who was scrappy during 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.119 the game. I get it. Doug was really and it 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.879 sounds self serving on a Jaguar show, he was really 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.560 glad that his team just kind of walked away from 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.320 that and let it diffuse. I guess the Jets threw 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.679 the Buccaneers out of don't do practice, So maybe you 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.800 just do a one day, right, I mean, maybe maybe 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.800 day two is too much. Maybe if you're going to travel, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:22.919 you have one day and then a day with your 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.080 own practice at the local high school or something like that. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.000 They say they get good work out of it and 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.000 they want to do it. Or maybe you just choose 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.360 your team that you're going to go work with very carefully, Yes, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:33.000 a little. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.800 More particular about who you choose. Perhaps our final thing 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.160 from around the league, Aaron Rodgers and State Farm are 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.600 no longer together, so we're gonna have to get a 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.439 new celebration out of that. And then also in sponsorship deals, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.800 Will Levis, the quarterback for the Titans, or at one 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.679 point will be the quarterback for the Titans, has a 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.440 lifetime deal with Hellman's Mayonnaise after he put mayonnaise in 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.280 his coffee for those tiktoks. So I wanted to ask you, guys, 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.000